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Posted by: Riles at September 22, 2011 7:59 PM
See? An electrocution joke is like complaining that Hayden Christensen replaced David Prowse in "Return Of The Jedi".
"You're just fucking wrong."
That's before the mixed-fast-food-franchise-metaphor.
Get your facts straight, people. That is all I'll ever ask.
Posted by: Jay at September 22, 2011 8:18 PM
That exchange leaves out Baldwin saying:
"Wonder if the McPhail family will seek death penalty for US leaders who killed thousands of US soldiers and countless innocent Iraqis"
Which, aside from being kinda incoherent, just ain't cool. I like AB, but the victim's family gets a pass on however they honestly feel. They didn't ask for a spotlight.
Posted by: sansho1 at September 22, 2011 8:19 PM
Wow. I dislike both Malkin and Coulter, but at least Malkin was making it about her beliefs vs Baldwin's. Coulter...Coulter just went to the ugliest level of mean.
Posted by: Fredo at September 22, 2011 8:21 PM
I’m not really interested in Troy Davis, Troy Davis was a victim of the same system that allowed white men to lynch black men for centuries and get away with it. I personally know many Troy Davises, black men that have either been put to death or given life sentences for crimes they did not commit. So I really don’t want to hear from you johnny come lately truth seekers. Though his murder is sad I’m still not able to shed a tear, I’ve shed thousands of tears for those countless black men that where given life sentences or put to death for no other goddamn reason other than being black. You can save your hypocrisy for the next circus that’s coming to town.
Posted by: Pookie at September 22, 2011 8:25 PM
Coulter is the Snookie of the political pundit world. She is a self possessed moron spouting her delusions of grandeur to a public interested only in how stupid she can sound.
Posted by: Nate Blaine at September 22, 2011 9:29 PM
Thanks for putting it all into perspective, Pookie. As a gay man, I am happy to hear you imply that people who are not black have no right to form an opinion on something that seriously affects African-Americans, because I assume this means you will stop commenting on posts that deal with gay and lesbian issues.
Posted by: Craig at September 22, 2011 9:32 PM
Who yanked that drag queen Coulter's chain?
Posted by: Jerry at September 22, 2011 9:46 PM
Craig I could care less where you post, furthermore I'm going to post wherever I want to. If you took my post personal I don't give a fuck. I didn't say you couldn't form an opinion, you can form any fucking opinion you want. Now as far as you being gay, what do want, a key to the city? You must think just because you mentioned you're gay I'm supposed to take back everything I said, I'm supposed to defer to you? Stop being a professional gay all the time, it's not always about you.
Posted by: Pookie at September 22, 2011 10:05 PM
Paris is burning, y'all.
Posted by: RobP at September 22, 2011 10:36 PM
Pookie, are all those black men who were executed/incarcerated innocent because they said so? Are they innocent because they are black and that's what white people do? Or are they innocent because you just know all the facts? I'm curious.
Posted by: Some Guy at September 22, 2011 10:38 PM
I think what you meant to say was; I couldn't care less.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: MurderBot at September 22, 2011 10:39 PM
was it on " curb your enthusiasm " that larry david suggests to
a black friend that he will be more accepted if he dons a pair of glasses? anyway, that thought hit me when i viewed the oft
shown photo of davis sporting specs. he looks like a college prof.
by the way, murderbot, in the army " i could care less " means " i
couldn't care less "... jargon, you know.
Posted by: snake at September 22, 2011 11:14 PM
I would have rather seen Casey Anthony in Troy Davis' shoes any day..
Posted by: Cyn at September 23, 2011 2:19 AM
@murderbot: Thanks, David. I mean, the Queen!
Posted by: Robin at September 23, 2011 4:02 AM
Wow Pookie, you are kind of an asshole. Only black people have enough street-cred to care about the execution of a possibly innocent man? You sound like a hipster talking about his favorite band. "I was caring about the unjust persecution of blacks in the American legal system way before it was popular with the mainstream."
Posted by: Douchebag McGee at September 23, 2011 4:39 AM
Exactly, Douchebag! You'd think that Pookie would want as many people as possible to be aware of the incredible injustices leveled at black men to this day. But no, it's better to be smug ans superior about the fact that he was aware of it before everybody else and thus gets to lord it over people. Pookie you are the worst advocate for the men in these awful situations. Your comment actually led the discussion away from Troy Davis' plight and forced people genuinely appaled by what happened to defend their feelings to you.
Posted by: Phedre at September 23, 2011 5:30 AM
Where the fuck was America when black men were being lynched? You all came to the Troy Davis execution like it was a party. You all are a bunch of internet freedom fighters.
Posted by: Pookie at September 23, 2011 6:52 AM
Pookie - nobody has to justify their outrage at the miscarriage of justice to you.
Posted by: Phedre at September 23, 2011 7:27 AM
Well then don't.
Posted by: Pookie at September 23, 2011 7:39 AM
Pookie's right. As history teaches us, every single white person in the world cheered when a black person was lynched. Except for the people who were horrified and fighting against it back then too, but they don't count because they were Johnny-come-lateleys who didn't really care. The only real white people are the ones who systematically abused black people, obviously. The rest of us are faker than a spray tan for opposing the death penalty in this or any other case.
Posted by: Robert at September 23, 2011 7:52 AM
Pookie, can we make a deal? We whities stop justifing our outrage, and you stop your self-righteous whining about it.
Posted by: FabMax at September 23, 2011 8:03 AM
You guys don’t have to defend yourselves to me. I simply said that the Davis execution was one in a long line of many. But to understand the Davis execution you must go back to when it was acceptable that black men were lynched, because if it was not acceptable it would not have happened to the extent that it happened. This isn’t the first time that a man of color has been put to death by the justice system with the flimsiest of evidence. Your outrage is misplaced; don’t come down on me just because I talk about Davis in a historical context. Davis isn’t the first Davis, and he won’t be the last Davis.
Posted by: Pookie at September 23, 2011 9:02 AM
The problem we're trying to solve is that there are bloggers, and there are Facebookers. Then there's 50 feet of crap. And then there's Twitter.
Posted by: D-Day at September 23, 2011 9:21 AM
Wow. I gotta say, I read Pookie's comment so differently than a lot of you. What I read (and kinda agree with) is that it's hard to get worked up about this one (possible) miscarriage of justice when it happens all the time. Davis' execution is a tiny drip in the systematic destruction of the lives of black men. Nowhere in his comment does he says that white people are not allowed to feel outrage about Davis (or the system), but to be outraged about this one case demeans the thousands of others.
Posted by: Lee at September 23, 2011 9:48 AM
What happens when you don't refresh before posting?
Posted by: Lee at September 23, 2011 9:55 AM
Ann Coulter is awful. Usually I'm the one to say, "Yeah, but they're probably a nice person outside of their public persona." Not Coulter. Any way you slice it, she's a mean, tactless person who will literally say the most dispicable things just to remain in the public eye.
Posted by: Sassafrass Green at September 23, 2011 10:06 AM
Pookie, what's it like to be a raving lunatic racist??
Posted by: handy_man at September 23, 2011 10:27 AM
Lee, what you and Pookie don't get is that the colour of Davis' skin does not matter (except for Pookie). The thing is that a human being was murdered for allegedly murdering a human being. That Davis probably didn't do the deed makes it all the worse.
That's what the outrage is about.
Posted by: FabMax at September 23, 2011 10:37 AM
Handy_Man, what did we learn about childish name-calling?
Posted by: FabMax at September 23, 2011 10:40 AM
Uh. How do I not get that? Because I said one thing in one comment thread? Arguing one point about capital punishment does not mean I don't "get" other agreements.
Posted by: Lee at September 23, 2011 10:50 AM
I have been a longtime supporter of the West Memphis Three where Damien Echols was on death row for capital murder with no evidence. Thank God they were finally released. Because of my support for the WM3 I've followed many cases where the judicial system or the state ( usually a southern one) is too quick to pull the trigger with questionable evidence. I believe strongly that no one should be executed unless the evidence is irrefutable, and it involves multiple murders. I also don't give a rat's ass what color they are.
Yeah Pookie, there are some pretty educated people on this sight, I think we all understand the tragic history of lynching in the south. This is what I tried to explain to you before. I am not African American, yet I still have empathy for them, and it is why I question you on your lack of empathy for people of a different race, gender or sexual preference. It brings to mind your disgusting observations on women and gays. I guess the only people that deserve your empathy are black men. I'm curious, do they have to be a certain shade as well?
Posted by: kirbyjay at September 23, 2011 10:50 AM
Lee, what you and Pookie don't get is that the colour of Davis' skin does not matter (except for Pookie). The thing is that a human being was murdered for allegedly murdering a human being. That Davis probably didn't do the deed makes it all the worse.
That's what the outrage is about.
Posted by: FabMax at September 23, 2011 10:37 AM
And there you have it folks, the color of Davis’ skin didn’t matter in the overall context of him being executed. That fact that a black man is more likely to be put to death than any other group of people here in America is just a minor issue. In FabMax view, history is not part of the context when it comes to blacks and the criminal justice system.
Posted by: Pookie at September 23, 2011 11:09 AM
What does it say though when a black man is convicted and sentenced to death by a jury composed by a majority of black people?
And how come no one is coming to the defense of the white guy who was executed for his role in the revolting dragging death of a black man? He proclaimed his innocence, too.
not saying he was innocent, but haven't heard a peep from people saying he should have spent life in prison...
Posted by: Some Guy at September 23, 2011 11:25 AM
@Kirbyjay
I was so sure that I explained my position to you when it comes to empathy. I have empathy for everyone. But my problem with the Davis execution, and the fact that the former head of the F fucking B.I said that the evidence was flimsy, and Davis was still put to death. Why anger is directed at a system that has yet to correct itself with so many educated and well meaning people fighting the good fight. To this day no one has been able to explain to me why only a certain group of people must suffer the ultimate injustice. I ask this question, and I have been answered with being called a racist and a douche-bag. This is not about me; this is about a broken system.
Posted by: Pookie at September 23, 2011 11:35 AM
I think MapQuest led me astray...I came here to talk about how much Ann Coulter is the greasy hair on the wart on the anus of Satan's latest bottom bitch. From the comments, though, it seems I am in the comments section of The Help review.
Posted by: Donut Plains at September 23, 2011 12:01 PM
What does it say though when a black man is convicted and sentenced to death by a jury composed by a majority of black people?
I wouldn't say that this case necessarily says anything about anything other than itself -- however, it has been shown repeatedly that the single biggest factor in whether the death penalty is applied to a case is...the race of the victim. Second biggest factor is the race of the defendent. This is true almost regardless of the racial composition of the jury.
Do both white and black people in the US value the life of a white person more highly than that of a black person? Or it could be that jury members, having been placed in an environment that is disorienting in its artificiality, subconsciously imitate their understanding of the cultural traditions of that environment, which has been to value a white life over a black one? I believe this is what can happen. Whether that IS what happened in the Troy Davis case, I don't know. But it bears all the traditional earmarks.
Posted by: sansho1 at September 23, 2011 12:11 PM
Hmm...I don't think I got that quite right. Oh well, feel free to help me out or call bullshit. I don't think it's bullshit, but my reach is exceeding my grasp on this one, possibly.
Posted by: sansho1 at September 23, 2011 12:37 PM
Pookie, you misunderstood me.
I did not say that Davis' skin colour did not have anything to do with his conviction. I said that his skin colour does not have anything to do with the outrage about his execution. That's what you complained about.
Posted by: FabMax at September 23, 2011 12:48 PM
No Pookie, you did not explain your position about empathy, and you also called a whole bunch of white people that do not believe Davis should have been executed, hypocritical Johnny-come- lately truth seekers. I'm ashamed of this country's racial history, but I also know that most violence against black people is by other black people, that the dictators of Africa steal from and murder their own people, and that whites are not the only ones to oppress your race, though they are pretty good at it.
btw...Anne Coulter is a mean-spirited c-nt.
Posted by: kirbyjay at September 23, 2011 12:49 PM
Just when i thought I'd run out of reasons to never take the likes of Michelle Malkin seriously, you've given me a brand new one. Thank you !!
Posted by: Mr. Stitch at September 23, 2011 12:51 PM
Donut Plains, that fucking made my day.
Posted by: Lee at September 23, 2011 1:12 PM
you guys do know that Pookie is Pajiba's resident troll, right?
Posted by: MizB at September 23, 2011 7:29 PM
Lee, I am really happy you said that considering that I just turned my niece's golden blond curls into what looks like a Flowbee accident. I made your day, I ruined hers...things even out.
Posted by: Donut Plains at September 24, 2011 3:44 PM
She's a poet and didn't know it?