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By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Miscellaneous | Comments (53)



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Eat, Pray, Love presented another instance of a now familiar trope in film: The Woman Being Liberated by Divorce. In fact, Slate did a Slate-version of a Seriously Random List on that very topic (they use slideshows — it’s classier!), running down a list of movies where a woman or women are liberated by divorce, films such as Under the Tuscan Sun. Waiting to Exhale, How Stella Got Her Groove Back, First Wives Club, Waiting to Exhale, and An Unmarried Woman (I might also add one of my favorite films of the last decade, Waitress). I have nothing against the trope, mind you, although the movies that exploit it tend not to be very good. In most instances, it’s cut and dry: The women in these movies leave verbally or physically abusive assholes, adulterers, or all around shitty dudes. I did have something of a problem with Eat, Pray, Love from a narrative standpoint, mostly because there was no explanation provided for why she left her husband. However, I have since been apprised that Elizabeth Gilbert’s memoir provides some much needed context that the movie did not, context that the film really could’ve benefited from in trying to make the protagonist more sympathetic, instead of a woman who basically left her very loving husband because she was bored.

All the same, I very much believe in the emancipatory powers of divorce: If you’re in a shitty marriage, you should get out of it. Wedding vows are importantly, but they can be nullified by adultery, abuse, neglect, constant criticism, lousy or no sex, or even annoyance or irritation that rises to a certain level. I understand that.

But here’s what rubs me the wrong way, and it may not be a popular sentiment on this particular site, but here it is all the same: Why don’t men get the liberated by divorce movies? There are plenty of movies that focus on the divorced male protagonist, but he’s always the wounded soul searching for the healing powers of love (see Javier Bardem in Eat, Pray, Love). Why do men always have to be the bad guys or the sad sacks? Where’s our fucking enlightenment? Our liberation? Bad relationships happen to everyone; not just women. I understand the empowerment aspects of leaving an asshole husband or boyfriend. That’s why I generally like this trope: Because, even as a dude, I can empathize with many of the women who leave bad relationships.

Look: I understand the inequality of the sexes. I beat on that feminist drum so much around here that people start to wear earmuffs. And while women have come a long way from the “Mad Men,” era, you know what? So have men. We’re not all walking hard-ons demanding a chicken in every pot and a barefoot woman in every kitchen anymore. Yes, a lot of those redneck troglodytes still exist, but there are a lot of guys, like myself, who do all the cooking, the making of the kid’s lunches, the vacuuming, and cleaning, and ironing, and who are equal partners in the child rearing department, too. And we still carry out the goddamn trash and fix the kitchen sink (well, not me, personally, but I will call the plumber).

But here’s the big secret about all those progressive men that Hollywood doesn’t want you to know about: Men sometimes end up in relationships with shitty women, too. And sometimes, every great once in a while, when a guy gets out of a relationship with an awful woman, it feels good. Liberating, even. I know. Scandalous, isn’t it? I was married once before. Briefly. In another life. In another city. In another time. I’ll spare you the details, but I will say this: Leaving it was liberating as hell. Gaining one’s independence, getting out from under daily insults, and finding yourself again, so to speak, is not the exclusive purview of women. It can be just as satisfying for a man.

The difference, I suppose, is that we usually don’t travel around the world to discover ourselves: We just find a good dive bar and hibernate there for about a year. It’s not as glamorous as Italy, perhaps, but there’s a lot of answers to be found while you’re stumbling home by yourself half an hour after last call. Call it our nightly meditation.

Just ignore the drunk dials.









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Comments

The Shipping News? But that was a book first.

Um... hrm. Interesting. Let me think about this.

Posted by: twig at August 18, 2010 11:38 AM

I come from a family where nobody gets divorced. Everyone has been happily married for decades. That said, I do have one or two friends who got divorced and really needed to, and were so much better without their previous partner. That said, I still find myself being slightly prejudiced against divorced men. I don't know why, but if I was single, I'd just feel like I was dating a man with bad taste in women and what does that say about me? I know, it's weird.

Posted by: BWeaves at August 18, 2010 11:39 AM

Apropos of nothing, I feel compelled to let people know that the book "Under The Tuscan Sun" shares pretty much nothing with the movie of the same name except the name of the house in Tuscany. In the book, the author is in a happy and established relationship and the book is all about food and renovating a house. I thought I'd mention that since any people might think the movie taint might attach to the book.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 18, 2010 11:41 AM

I'm guessing that "men liberated by divorce" movies don't get made because there's not a large demo for them. Women (probably) aren't gonna flock to a movie about a man who divorced his total bitch of a wife and found true love with another (for reasons I'll leave up to debate). And most men probably don't want to watch a movie where the male protagonist is a sad sack loser who whines about what a bitch his wife is, then finally finds the courage to leave her. Makes him look like a pussy, and men, in general, don't identify with (or don't want to admit to identifying with) a pussy.

If you want an example of a movie that shows the "liberating" aspect of dumping a colossal bitch, I only have one, and it's not a good one: Saving Silverman. There may be others I haven't seen. I'm sure someone will let us know if there are.

Maybe there are decent foreign films that address this theme, but Americans in general don't seem to like movies that portray men as pathetic doormats, at least not in a sympathetic fashion. We only like to make fun of the losers in movies, we don't generally identify with them.

While women, sad to say, seem to love movies that portray women this way. As long as we get a happy ending (ie, a Prince Charming) at the end, and/or some kind of makeover. Women really need to start expecting better. I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon, though.

Posted by: Slash at August 18, 2010 11:44 AM

That said, I still find myself being slightly prejudiced against divorced men.

That's because he must have done something.

Posted by: admin at August 18, 2010 11:44 AM

I heard someone say once (I'm pretty sure it was a guy), "Have you ever broken up with someone and realized that you should have done it WAAAAAAY sooner?"

There is so much truth in it for me. If only I'd gotten out of some hideous long term relationships so much earlier. I could have had my own liberation party/travel experience!

But I do agree with you on the stumbling drunk out of a bar deal. It was my favorite way to celebrate my freedom.

Posted by: Trouble at August 18, 2010 11:46 AM

BWeaves:

Mr. PaddyDog has a very close friend who was divorced out of a horrible abusive marriage (that he entered into too quickly on the rebound from losing the love of his life). He experienced the same thing: most women would have nothing to do with him after they found out he was divorced because they felt something might be off about him. He is now re-married to someone who is okay but clearly he settled and just didn't want to go through the dating game any longer.
I think things would have been different if he had waited a little longer since by the time the forties roll around, the available man to women ratio is much more favorable to men, but he was desperate to have children so he didn't wait. Guess what: the wife announced post marriage that she doesn't want children!!

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 18, 2010 11:47 AM

Men don't get those kind of movies often because when they do, the women are often villified to the point where they become caricatures with no redeeming qualities. You almost always see them abandoning their families specifically their children which automatically makes the man a hero. I believe Kramer vs Kramer, A Cool Dry Place and Mother's Boys showed different extremes on the matter

Posted by: Candy at August 18, 2010 11:49 AM

I do know some couples who got it right the second time around, but I know more men who tend to make the same damn mistake over and over and over, and that's where my prejudice comes from, I think.

Posted by: BWeaves at August 18, 2010 11:53 AM

i think part of it is that the whole "man married to a nag" is generally portrayed as man's typical view of marriage. it's either used as a punchline or as a standard marriage from the husband POV ("it's what marriage is, what can you do, the wife will nag, the husband will put up with it"). i don't think i'm explaining myself very well...basically i think it's just not seen as a serious issue but as a gag.

but, off the top of my head, the closest i can come up with is in the hangover and the storyline with the daily show guy. i'd say there are other examples of men being liberated from an unbearable spouse but they are usually tied in to the guy finding someone else and that being the catalyst.

Posted by: Sinnh at August 18, 2010 12:00 PM

I have a neighbour who has benefited from a divorce. His wife wound up using the money she owed him for child support on a new pair of tits. Now she can't re-enter Canada due to various legal problems. She sure did hide the bat-shit crazy aspect of her personality for quite a while.

Posted by: Uda at August 18, 2010 12:04 PM

The reason this movie doesn't exist is because the social norm of the American male is that he doesn't get to leave his marriage. Men are low-down dirty dogs who can only be saved from their own self-destructive misogyny through the life affirming arms of marriage. We don't get to leave. A soon as we do, we turn back into "dudes" again. I, personally, would find that liberating, but it's "immature" whereas marriage is "mature." So a man asking for a divorce is usually couched in terms of a guy wanting to be a guy rather than a purse-holding feeb at the mall. (Is this a stereotype, yes, but it is still hard to find a woman who will be married to you AND let you do truly stupid, drunken shit with your friends).

If a guy leaves his woman, he is shirking his responsibility. Society, or at least popular culture, tells us that it is his duty as a man to put up with every last ounce of shit she can dish out because she is better than him even if she's a castrating bitch. The only movie in which I have seen this pattern broken recently is The Hangover, and the couple isn't married which makes it OK.

Oh, and this is why Betty leaves Don and not the other way around. Cheating for him is a means of remaining sane, not an indication that he doesn't love his wife (bullshit, but there it is).

Is all of this true, like real life true, of course not; but perception is nine tenths of the law. Just sayin'.

Posted by: professor_love at August 18, 2010 12:09 PM

Like others have mentioned, it's a question about target audience (as much as I would like to see this cliche turned on its head more). A movie like this would either have to go the Hangover comedy route or wind up being some terrible romcom like 40 Days and 40 Nights.

but I know more men who tend to make the same damn mistake over and over and over, and that's where my prejudice comes from, I think.

And I personally know more women who tend to make the same mistake over and over. I agree that it's hard to determine the source of it, but it's really two sides of the same coin.

Posted by: branded at August 18, 2010 12:12 PM

Because men whose wives died, thus leaving them bereft, are a way better sell than guys who get out of a crappy relationship for all the right reasons. A dead wife is apparently waaay more appealing than an ex-wife.

Posted by: Reba at August 18, 2010 12:12 PM

RE professor_love: "The reason this movie doesn't exist is because the social norm of the American male is that he doesn't get to leave his marriage. Men are low-down dirty dogs who can only be saved from their own self-destructive misogyny through the life affirming arms of marriage. We don't get to leave."

And the corresponding social norm for women is that if a marriage ends, it's her fault. She wasn't good enough. She didn't put out often enough, she neglected her husband so she could lavish all her affection on the kids, she's frigid, she got fat and/or old, she's a huge bitch, etc. So for every negative stereotype of husbands, there's one for wives, too.

Most of us are old enough to have seen plenty of women who deserve to be dumped by men who deserve better. The fact that it isn't reflected often in the movies (or often enough, I guess) is the same reason everybody is stereotyped by Hollywood. Hollywood loves caricatures and stereotypes. They render decent screenwriting unnecessary. Leaves more money in the budget for Julia Roberts' or Reese Witherspoon's giant salaries.

Sure, there are Americans who want to see stupid stereotypes reinforced (how else to explain the popularity of recent Adam Sandler movies?). But they're not all Americans. I don't know if they're the majority. They may be.

Posted by: Slash at August 18, 2010 12:29 PM

The Heartbreak Kid wasn't a good movie by any means, but it was ostensibly about a man trying to get out of a bad marriage. Quickly.

Posted by: hindulovegod at August 18, 2010 12:45 PM

it is still hard to find a woman who will be married to you AND let you do truly stupid, drunken shit with your friends

My rule is this: As long as he pays for it on his own and/or cleans up after the fallout, have at. In eighteen years, I have very rarely said no, and there have been moments of monumental jackassery.

I have the same philosophy for my nearly grown kids. No blood, no foul. Use common sense. Try not to kill yourself or others. If you get arrested, you will sit there until I'm good and ready to post your bail. Could be days. Go forth and adventure. Just don't expect me to do your laundry (or have sympathy) when you return filthy and/or injured.

I guess I'm not a typical woman.

Posted by: Reba at August 18, 2010 1:03 PM

American Beauty. That movie is definitely about a dude liberating himself from his marriage, amongst other things. Instead of finding himself via food & the countryside, he just smokes w33d.

Posted by: the new transported man at August 18, 2010 1:09 PM

I have no problem with Mr. PaddyDog doing stupid shit with his friends.
I have no problem with him getting drunk with his friends (as long as no-one is driving).
But I suppose I would have a problem with him doing stupid drunken shit with his friends because then he's just a stupid drunk.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 18, 2010 1:11 PM

Slash: "And the corresponding social norm for women is that if a marriage ends, it's her fault. She wasn't good enough. She didn't put out often enough, she neglected her husband so she could lavish all her affection on the kids, she's frigid, she got fat and/or old, she's a huge bitch, etc. So for every negative stereotype of husbands, there's one for wives, too."

Slash is right about Howard Johnson's being right. I think what I was hyperbolically trying to say, as Slash pointed out later in the comment, is that the idea of making a movie that doesn't in some way reinforce a stereotype has little or no traction. Is this because the majority of moviegoers identify with those stereotypes in their own lives? I think, unfortunately, that this is so. Change, people, it's what's for dinner, but it's cooked harder than my grandma's flank steak.

Posted by: professor_love at August 18, 2010 1:39 PM

I think part of the problem is that in society women are constantly reinforced to never 'settle' where as men are expected to 'tough it up'. It's a celebration for a woman to leave a man that 'doesn't deserve her'. For a man, well it's just a cop out. I don't agree but unfortunately these are societal norms.

Posted by: Blank at August 18, 2010 2:04 PM

I just finished that stupid effing book. I don't think it provided any context that made her more 'sympathetic.' Her husband didn't seem to want to work, which I get could be an issue. But the overwhelming feeling I got was exactly what you said "a woman who basically left her very loving husband because she was bored." And I would add "spoiled" and "needed punched in the neck."

Posted by: fenchurch at August 18, 2010 2:05 PM

I immediately thought of two of Ben Stiller's movies...The Heartbreak Kid and Along Came Polly. Yeah, they're both comedies but they definitely feature a liberation from a horrible wife.

Arguably, Kramer vs. Kramer features a man who's ultimately satisfied with his divorce, though he didn't seek it.

Posted by: AM at August 18, 2010 2:16 PM

"A movie like this would either have to go the Hangover comedy route or wind up being some terrible romcom like 40 Days and 40 Nights."


Does no one actually remember that Ed Helms had a shrewish harpy significant other in The Hangover? And that he was "liberated" by Heather Graham and dumped his shrewish harpy significant other at the end of the movie? They weren't married yet, but they were living together. Why doesn't that count?

Posted by: Three-nineteen at August 18, 2010 2:23 PM

yeah. i feel really bad for men. you know what?

we need more movies from a dude's perspective. well-done movies. not like the shallow re-enactments of hardly fleshed-out personalities that women are sure to love.
please. can we liberate the men from pretty movie harpies?
amiright?

you guys. joe blow realllly needs his groove back.

Posted by: jubilat at August 18, 2010 2:42 PM

As I recall, the movie "Definitely, Maybe" with Ryan Reynolds showed a couple getting divorced without making either person seem like the bad guy, just two decent folks who couldn't make it work. And instead of the message being "we made a huge mistake," it ended on the note that they didn't regret the time they spent together because it resulted in a beloved daughter. I wouldn't mind seeing Hollywood explore more realistic depictions of marriages breaking up without resorting to character cliches; seems like rich territory just waiting to be mined.

Or screw it and let's start churning out a script for "Battleship 2: Money Never Sleeps."

Posted by: dlh at August 18, 2010 2:45 PM

The difference, I suppose, is that we usually don’t travel around the world to discover ourselves: We just find a good dive bar and hibernate there for about a year.

Hardly anybody, male or female, travels around the world for a year to discover themselves after a divorce. Most women do some version of hibernation, retail therapy, and boring their friends with tales of angst.

I actually like that the film was gutsy enough not to demonize the ex to make the protagonist look better. If she dumped a nice guy because it wasn't working out, then that is what she did. The thing was based on a true story, after all. Under the Tuscan Sun bears little or no resemblance to the book, in which our heroine is happily in an LTR. Sometimes marriages don't work out, even if nobody is horrible. But Hollywood doesn't like such subtlety, generally, and it certainly doesn't like men being vulnerable in any way. It likes them blowing shit up.

Posted by: Abby at August 18, 2010 2:49 PM

I've got an idea for a feel-good movie: a couple who have been together for years decide to break up because they realize they're incompatible. They don't hate each other, but want to call it quits before they do. This mystifies everyone around them. His male friends assume she must have been a horrible nagging harpy and his parents say he should have "stuck it out". Much of the movie concerns him trying to disabuse them of these notions. She's a good person, they just aren't that good together any more. The final shot is of the couple filing the papers at the courthouse, both smiling. There are no new romances on the horizon. The romance ends, but the friendship is saved.
Needless to say, this movie will never get made.

Posted by: Inaras at August 18, 2010 2:52 PM

Technically, Waiting to Exhale and How Stella Got Her Groove Back, being autobiographical fiction titles by Terry McMillan, are both the same book and the same film, and should only be counted once between them.

I am glad that there are people who can still remember Kramer vs. Kramer who aren't me.

Posted by: Jerry at August 18, 2010 2:53 PM

Needs more tits and explosions, Inaras. We'll take that synopsis, toss it in a blender with Commando, and a sprinkle of Baynis, add a dash of Sparks and we've made out millions.

Posted by: admin at August 18, 2010 2:56 PM

Old School. Totally about a guy moving on from a bad relationship.

Posted by: Kate The Great at August 18, 2010 3:16 PM

500 Days of Summer? Doesn't he kind of, I don't know, grow and find himself by the end?

Posted by: Lindsay at August 18, 2010 3:29 PM

Does no one actually remember that Ed Helms had a shrewish harpy significant other in The Hangover? And that he was "liberated" by Heather Graham and dumped his shrewish harpy significant other at the end of the movie?

Yes. That's exactly why I was referencing a "Hangover comedy route".

Posted by: branded at August 18, 2010 4:04 PM

Yes. That's exactly why I was referencing a "Hangover comedy route".

Oh. Well, there you are.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at August 18, 2010 4:35 PM

If hooking, murdering retaliation for rape, and leaving an unhappy marriage are liberating and empowering for women they should be for men as well, right? So how about this movie. First he gets his divorce. Then he travels the world to find himself. Along the way he's liberated from the shackles of his wife and societies expectations by finding unexpected love with a much younger man. Unfortunately, his love interest is really a pimp and our protagonist is kidnapped from a bar after being slipped a roofie, held captive in a room, and forced into prostitution. After repeated rapes, shown in great detail, he fashions a wicked shank from his bedposts and systematically kills each of his captors in a horribly brutal way. Liberation AND male empowerment! The worst is that if the lead was a woman, it'd get made.

Posted by: Smokey at August 18, 2010 4:50 PM

Well, the men left their wives in The Deliverance. They went in the woods and found themselves . . . Oh wait. Nevermind.

Dustin brings up a good point. Men should do a movie about leaving their wives. The real question is--would many men see it, or would they pass it up for Expandables 3? It seems like guys watch movies about tough guys blowing stuff up and banging pretty dolls more so than films like that. The latter type of films might actually have GASP . . . real thoughts and feelings in them. And, then what will happen? Shudders at the thought.

Posted by: Cecilia at August 18, 2010 5:09 PM

I can't believe I didn't think of American Beauty until reading the comments!

That's definitely a perfect example.

Posted by: ERM at August 18, 2010 5:13 PM

I applaud you Reba and hope that you become the norm. I would be curious whether you live in the country or in a city? Having lived in both, I find that this is still a rather common way of thinking in rural areas and find the overparenting of city dwellers annoying.

Posted by: Porkchop Express at August 18, 2010 5:16 PM

The fact that Dustin didn't think of American Beauty or the vast amount of movies/shows with the comedy trope of dude escaping from harpy wife makes it seem like he didn't think very long before writing this.

Posted by: ERM at August 18, 2010 5:22 PM

Bill Murray's character in Lost in Translation, though not divorced.

Posted by: Porkchop Express at August 18, 2010 5:31 PM

For those suspicious of divorced men, you must be younger. I'm almost 40 and if I met a never-been-married man at my age (if I were single), my first thought would be "uh-oh, what's wrong with YOU? Are you a closeted gay man? An insane neurotic? A mama's boy? Take it from me, the vast majority of normal men don't make it past 35 without some other chick sealing the deal.

Your best bets at my age are:
- Find a nice divorced guy about a year out of his first marriage. This is what my ex-husband's (totally amicable divorce) 2nd wife did. Also divorced, she snapped him up almost a year to the day we split. They have 4 kids now.

- Find a younger dude. This is what I did. Eight years younger and when we met he was 25. I thought he was refreshingly not screwed up by some other woman before I got him. He thought I was utterly brilliant, confident and amazing in bed*. Still together after 7 years.

*What is wrong with women under 30 these days? It's called a blowjob. Take a tip from Chris Rock and go after that like there's some Robutussin in there.

Posted by: malechai at August 18, 2010 8:39 PM

Porkchop-Just chiming in. I'm not married but have an SO and I DEFINITELY live in a rural area. I don't ever tell the SO that he can't do something. WTF? It's his life and I would kick him in the balls if he tried to tell me what to do.

However, my 20 and 30-something married family and friends are constantly bitching about the arguments they have with their husbands. I'd say 89% of the time the fights are because the girl doesn't want the guy to do something with his friends. I do not understand this mentality at all. Why would you want to control the other person?

And on a side note, it drives me batshit crazy that these couples cannot do anything without the other. Like the girls refuse to hang out because the husband has plans that night. Detach yourself for a minute and live without him. Jesus. How can they stand being together 24/7? Don't they ever want a break from each other?

Posted by: ang at August 18, 2010 8:43 PM

Yes, "American Beauty" had the "shlump with a bitchy wife" thing, but they didn't divorce. And no one went to India.

Maybe that's why it didn't occur to most of us. Because that isn't the same thing as what apparently happens in this "Eat Pray Love" story. The one where she divorces, then goes overseas. But she doesn't quit a soul-sucking job to go work at a fast food place and smoke weed in her free time. And doesn't catch her cheating husband red-handed at the drive-through lane. And doesn't have an ungrateful teenage daughter who hangs out with the teenage neighbor she buys her weed from. And she doesn't have a tightly-wound closet case for a neighbor. And she doesn't die at the end of the movie.

Otherwise, yeah, they're practically the same story. I don't know why it didn't occur to me right away.

Posted by: Slash at August 18, 2010 8:45 PM

Maybe there is hope for the human race yet. I love country girls.

Posted by: Porkchop Express at August 18, 2010 10:05 PM

And while women have come a long way from the “Mad Men,” era, you know what? So have men. We’re not all walking hard-ons demanding a chicken in every pot and a barefoot woman in every kitchen anymore.

This is what I was trying to say in the male orgasm post.

Sadly, i will never be able to wear a t-shirt with "I am NOT a walking hard-on" on it.

And the corresponding social norm for women is that if a marriage ends, it's her fault. She wasn't good enough. She didn't put out often enough, she neglected her husband so she could lavish all her affection on the kids, she's frigid, she got fat and/or old, she's a huge bitch, etc. So for every negative stereotype of husbands, there's one for wives, too

Yeah, about the only people who think that are screenwriters who need an excuse for drama on the female character's end. And the people who buy into it, of course.

Seriously, that sounds more like a character form one of those bad melodramas (DAMN YOU TYLER PERRY!!!!) coming up with bullshit excuses in order to make the dumped character seem unfairly persecuted by her friends and family. All it does is convince me that the only problem this woman had was that she is surrounded by assholes.

Now if you want more modern real-life female divorce stereotypes, may I present: the gold digger/treasure hunter. The idea that a woman gets a divorce for the windfall. The funny thing about this stereotype is that it could go either way. The woman could be celebrated or vilified. It is never a simple case of it not working out. Every woman wants those ducats, and depending on who she is, she should either be given every red cent or told to take a flying fuck off a short pier.

It seems folks really underestimate the general public. Or maybe I am far too optimistic.

Posted by: Vermillion at August 18, 2010 10:33 PM

Maybe there are decent foreign films that address this theme, but Americans in general don't seem to like movies that portray men as pathetic doormats, at least not in a sympathetic fashion.

Posted by: Slash at August 18, 2010 11:44 AM

No, that's reserved for TV.

Posted by: Uriah Creep at August 18, 2010 10:38 PM

Porkchop Express, I live in a rural area. Husband is from Long Island (without the attitude or accent, or he wouldn't be the husband), and I grew up in Philly (ditto, or I wouldn't be the wife). Most of the reason folks in the city don't let their kids roam is that there are proportionally more whack jobs in the city and none of the busy bodies that populate small rural towns. Trust me, if my kids start trouble, I'll hear about it. The flip side of that is they are bored, bored, bored teenagers. It's okay, though. The husband will soon teach them how to blow things up and all will be well again.

malechai, hear hear! The husband is 7 years my junior, and while this is the first marriage for both of us, he was refreshingly unbroken. When I found him, anyway.

ang, I second your confusion. If I want a creature to control, I'll get a dog and take it to obedience classes until it does whatever I want. Since I don't even do that to my dogs, I can't imagine doing it to another person.

Posted by: Reba at August 19, 2010 11:45 AM

Vermillion mentioned melodrama - that's a big difference, because men don't seem to go for melodrama, and women do. I don't want to sit thru two hours of a man whining about how shitty his marriage is and dithering around from woman to woman trying to find himself (and I don't really want to watch a woman do it either, now that I think about it, if that's all it's about). The main problem with movies like this is it's always about the stuff they do and the people they meet, but seldom about the protagonist's character. Give a strong character making a drastic change and what happens inside that character, and it's interesting, whatever the issue. I have seen too many empty films about relationships where the character is nearly non-existent and stuff just happens. Life isn't like that (tho it often feels that way). People change - show the change and cut the cute and funny by half, and then you have a decent flick.

And put Javier Bardem in it, for sure. :)

Posted by: Chickaboom at August 19, 2010 12:17 PM

Call me naive, but I think of this movie less in gender terms and more in terms of social class. It seems to me that a lot of these feel-good, self-discovery stories are based on trustafarians who can afford to take off a year and wander the globe. In other words, rich people's problems.

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