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Recalling a Little Movie from 1982 1983

By Christopher Campbell | Posted Under Miscellaneous | Comments (16)



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Have you seen the new Tron Legacy images (here and here, if not)? Did they make you immediately flash back to the early ’80s with glee? You’re not alone; many a film blogger got super excited recalling their love for the original Tron while looking forward to the sequel.

Not me.

Sure, I like Tron plenty, and I’d love to think Disney will make our geeky dreams come true with this new installment, but I’m the film cynic. I just can’t be hopeful about any modern follow-up to anything from my childhood. Blah blah, George Lucas is to blame, and what not.

Today, as everyone else was remembering that groundbreaking film from 1982, and apparently wetting their pants with excitement, I was instead thinking about a certain comedy released a year later: The Survivors. In the movie, Robin Williams is complaining about how society is going down the toilet and asks Walter Matthau if there’s anything that’s gotten better in the last ten years. “Video games,” answers Matthau’s daughter (Kristen Vigard).

Interestingly enough, the same answer can be given today regarding the past decade. Well, maybe some will argue that the president is better, too, but everyone can admit that, at least technically, video games are one of the few things still improving every ten years.

Movies, however, have pretty much gotten worse with time since around the years of Tron and The Survivors (neither are great, I might add). So how can I get excited about a new movie that celebrates old video games? Sounds like the worst of both worlds to me.

I’ll admit, though, I’ve never cared about video games, then or now. So feel free to argue against me on that subject. Just don’t attempt to tell me how Tron Legacy is going to be worth anyone’s time, geek or otherwise. Despite what the teaser poster implies, it won’t be any more of a game changer than Avatar will be.

Here are some of the mostly excited bloggers’ responses to the image and poster:

  • Rob Bricken at Topless Robot:
    Oh. My. Goodness. Um, if you guys need me, I’ll be busy masturbating furiously to this new Tron: Legacy art. I know it’s not much, and I know it has little bearing on how good or bad the movie’s actually going to be, but I’m such a crazed, stupid Tron fan that these delight me to the core of my being. I swear, between these and the Kaneda toy from earlier, today has been a very rough day on my penis.
  • Kevin Kelly at Cinematical:
    This is a new Tron movie, right? I still won’t forget the electric feeling in the audience at Comic-Con two years ago when Disney snuck in the teaser trailer. There was a ripple of “What the?!” across the crowd, and then the feeling of me peeing my own pants. Tron was one of those pivotal movies in my childhood, and it’s being revisited in some fashion. Now if I could just finish plans to build my own Recognizer and take over the world…
  • Rodney at The Movie Blog:
    The imgagery [sic] is just amazing. The poster looks a little gamey, but then its supposed to take place inside a video game.

    Each step closer to the release of this film and the nostalgic little boy inside me gets closer to peeing his pants.

  • Joseph Baxter at The Feed:
    While we have yet to see the “far more advanced” aspects of the digital world, based on what we do see, this movie will not be short on appeal. Tron was a cultural phenomenon that blew everyone’s minds back in ‘82. It will be interesting to see if this film, in a post-Avatar world (however that will turn out), will be able to break new ground in the 3D department and manage to blow peoples’ minds in ‘10.
  • Dan Hopper at Best Week Ever:
    I sure as balls hope the game has changed since the original — special effects in movies aren’t all light blue and fake-looking anymore. Now they’re regular colors and fake-looking.

    Between the resurgent Tron and Avatar this year, we appear to be entering a new “Weird Light Blue Stuff” era of filmmaking. I might finally be able to sell the script I wrote in 1993 about my San Jose Sharks Starter Jacket!

  • Jacob Hall at SciFi Squad:
    Okay, confession time: I haven’t seen Tron. It’s somewhere near the top of my science fiction list of shame and I’ll rectify that sometime soon. In the meantime, I’ll exist as proof that this is a great marketing campaign: I’m still interested in Tron: Legacy despite having no attachment to the original. At the very least, it’s going to be a visually stunning experience.
  • Mark at I Watch Stuff:
    ‘Tron Legacy’ Poster: The Game Has Changed!

    Wait, no it hasn’t. Still the game of driving glowey motorcycles. Sorry for the confusion.

  • Vince Mancini at FilmDrunk:
    I was sitting here trying to figure out why it is that I’m not excited about a new Tron movie like the other nerds, and the best I could come up with is that it looks like if a crotch rocket biker gang put glow sticks all over their bodies. Oh boy, it’s like house music for my eyes. […] Ooh, motorcycles that light up and race around the inside of a computer.  Blow me.








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Comments

Making a new TRON movie is trivial and pointless unless it leads to an exceptionally playable video game. Tron 2.0 from some of years ago was ... acceptable despite its many weaknesses.

The whole point of TRON is that the characters are inside the computer. Ergo anything related to this concept should be freakin' interactive.

And anyway there's nothing better than derezzing some security program with your laser Frisbee. Except maybe force-pushing stormtroopers off impossibly high and conveniently railing-free catwalks.

Posted by: Neodiogenes at December 9, 2009 8:10 PM

I don't think movies have got worse. Any age comes up with gems and crap films. Not even video-games have necessarily got better. The graphics are what have hot better. And the sound. So basically it's technology. Technology in movies has also got better. Some movies have suffered from that though because they think technology can substitute good story telling.

Those sweeping comments about what got better and worse are uncalled for. I know many who still love Doom, Prince of Persia, Pacman etc. Those games had good gameplay and were addictive. I've seen many movies which I loved the past decade. Some things are better than the past. Some things are worse. Don't get too lost in nostalgia or too high on latest fads. We can talk about golden ages maybe but generally, the old, the new... We can celebrate both.

Posted by: barf at December 9, 2009 8:12 PM

Agreed Mr. Campbell I don't recall any cinephiles clamoring for a Tron revisiting. That story was told, it was self-contained, done. MOVE THE FUCK ON, come up with something new or better yet, DON'T FILM ANYTHING, there I said it, if you can't come up with something original just leave it be, get a real job.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 9, 2009 8:12 PM

Dear people on the internet,

NOBODY CARES ABOUT STUPID SHIT YOU LIKED WHEN YOU WERE TWELVE

Regards,

Dan.

Posted by: Daniel Hall at December 9, 2009 8:20 PM

"Tron was a cultural phenomenon that blew everyone’s minds back in ‘82."

This statement is utter nonsense. I was around and an adult in 1982. Tron was fucking stupid. Audiences laughed at it. It was usually mentioned in the same breath as The Black Hole when discussing how Disney movies had gone down the toilet.

I know a lot of you were kids and have good memories of this movie and love it. I don't want to take that away from you or belittle it--but Jesus, get some perspective. We all loved stuff as kids that we later come to outgrow. When I was a kid Spaghetti-O's with meatballs was ambrosia.

It's fine with me if you want to love Tron. I only get irritated when people start saying it was "groundbreaking" or "game-changing" or whatthefuckever, because these statements are just ludicrously wrong.

Posted by: Jerce at December 9, 2009 8:54 PM

Dear Dan,

I agree completely. But everybody cares about stupid shit I liked when I was 12.

With love,
The Internet

Posted by: esme at December 9, 2009 9:25 PM

Tron is overrated. It's a very good movie for about the first half hour, and then it goes off the rails at the exact same point that the light cycles do.

That original arcade game, though? Divine.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at December 9, 2009 9:46 PM

Who's going to play the Joan Crawford part?

Posted by: Not That Danial Draig at December 9, 2009 10:59 PM

The interesting thing is that they already sequelized Tron in video game form, and Tron 2.0 was easily one of the most brilliant, involving and exciting first-person shooters of the Aughts, expanding the Tron universe - IE, "what life is like inside a computer" in entirely logical and satisfying ways, turning things like patches, viruses and version updates into mainstays of the gameworld.

With the exception of the lead character's name ("Jet"? Really?), it's just about perfect. Which is why Tron Legacy has me a bit nonplussed: how can they better Tron 2.0? And that's a problem, because the obvious answer is: they can't.

Posted by: mightygodking at December 10, 2009 4:36 AM

I was wondering, haven't seen Tron for a long time, has anyone recently?

Is it worth rewatching?
Or is it one of those OMG IT'S SOOOOO '80??

Posted by: Magiel at December 10, 2009 5:09 AM

When it first came out, Tron was a resounding "Meh."

I had occasion to watch it again earlier this year, and apparently the Law of Film Depreciation is still in force.

The movie went from "Meh" to "Feh."

Posted by: The Wanderer at December 10, 2009 7:42 AM

but everyone can admit that, at least technically, video games are one of the few things still improving every ten years.

Movies, however, have pretty much gotten worse with time

Bullshit. As someone already stated, the technology has improved, and that's it. You can find an analog for everything right and wrong with video games in movies.

Saw X = Madden X, same shit, different players.

Star Wars prequels = Pac Man 3D, amazing technical improvement in graphics, but the original was much better.

Dr. Strangelove = Mario Bros.(NES), just fucking classic.

In both there are great technical leaps. They are usually debuted in bad games/movies because people are more forgiving when they're being wowed for the first time. Then, as the techniques are learned, people come out and do it right. Then, when the techniques are easy and cheap, people put out a lot of exquisite looking shit. All the while people are releasing a lot of shit and a few gems, and(surprise!) usually it isn't the amazing technology that makes it good, it is in the quality of the story/gameplay(Katamari/Primer).

Saying movies have gotten worse with time is pretty bold and very short sighted.

Posted by: pissant at December 10, 2009 10:50 AM

I was wondering, haven't seen Tron for a long time, has anyone recently?

Is it worth rewatching?
Or is it one of those OMG IT'S SOOOOO '80??

I saw the whole thing for the first time(essentially) recently. I liked it, but it isn't amazing or anything. Though, I knew from an early age that I wanted to work with computers, and it is movies like Tron and other 80s fare that set that off in me. So, watching films like those always get me really excited and inspired*.

Anyway, if you don't have fond memories of it, you probably won't like it much.

* - Then I go to work the next day and continue hacking away at our ERP system. Ten year old me would probably knee present me in the nuts...and I wouldn't stop him.

Posted by: pissant at December 10, 2009 10:57 AM

The Survivors was a good movie. It's one of the few movies where Robin Williams is actually funny because he's actually playing a character as opposed to just being "Robin Williams".

Whatever happened to Kristen Vigard? She was hot.

Posted by: John W at December 10, 2009 12:41 PM

Just because you want your movie to be the game-changer and lay half a billion on the line to make it so, doesn't make it so.

Posted by: Recondite at December 10, 2009 3:27 PM

I remember loving Tron when it came out. Then I re-watched it a year or 2 ago, and thought to myself "Exactly why did I love this movie?" It was still kind of fun, but not what my 10 year self remembered. Maybe the new one will be entertaining, which is all I really ask of a movie.

Posted by: Bryan at December 12, 2009 12:16 AM


















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