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Amy Adams Asks That You Kindly Get Off The New Wonder Woman's Jock

By Joanna Robinson | Miscellaneous | December 20, 2013 | Comments ()


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This is a first for me, and I’m a little uncomfortable. Like a 120 pound woman crammed into a plastic bustier that’s three sizes too small uncomfortable. So bear with me because I’m about to defend Zack Snyder. It helps that he has the comely and talented Amy Adams on his side. In a recent interview with MTV for American Hustle she was, naturally, asked a lot of questions about the upcoming Batman Vs. Superman film. Because why would she want to talk about the two high-profile movies she’s in right now when she can talk about the alleged boniness of another woman’s ass? When asked about Zack Snyder’s “controversial” choice of the slender Gal Gadot for Wonder Woman, Amy Adams responded thusly:

I’m not familiar with her body shape…I don’t buy into that…Not that I [don’t] believe that it’s happening, but I’m certainly not a classically drawn woman as they exist in comic books, so I had to embrace that I just had a baby, I still hadn’t gotten my waist back. Lois is not about proportions, Lois is about her intellect and her savvy reporting skills and her empathy for Clark, and so I just didn’t think about it.
First of all, uh, Amy Adams may not have cartoonish Lane curves, but if she’s looking for her post-pregnancy waist in Man Of Steel, I found it. Amy it’s right here.

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I thought the succession of sassy vests Lois sported in Zack Snyder’s film had to do with her role as professional journalist and not with correcting a (non-existent) problem with her (non-existent) lack of a waist. Now I want to rewatch the movie and see how many tables they stick her behind. As to her second point, I think we can all agree that the physique of Superman’s love interest is less relevant that the physique of an Amazonian superhero and, inarguably, the most famous female comic book character of all time.

But here’s the part of the MTV interview where Adams hits the nail right on the head and forces me, against my will, to side with Zack Snyder. “I know anybody who’s working with Zack, if she’s working with Zack, and she’s going to be Wonder Woman, she is going to be yoked, man. He is going to make her a beast.” Ding. Gal Gadot may resemble a very lovely stick insect now, but Zack Snyder hasn’t gotten his hands on her yet. (Did that phrasing gross you out, too? Good.)

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You may recall that before Snyder and his team of trainers put Henry Cavill through his paces, the British actor looked merely god-like.

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After Snyder was done with him, Cavill basically looked like he had wings made of back meat. Seriously. This is the very definition of “yoked.”

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What’s even more significant about this physical transformation (and the difference a sprinkling of chest hair can make) is how Zack Snyder thinks that process allegedly helped Cavill in his performance as Superman. In the (widely circulated back in the spring but much more pertinent now) video below, Cavill, his trainers and Snyder all comment about the way in which the actor pushed his limits in the gym helped him understand they way in which Clark Kent has to push his limits to become Superman. Now, to be completely honest, I didn’t see any of that character work translate to the big screen and Cavill’s Superman remained a distant (if destructive) cypher to me, but I think what Snyder has to say here is interesting. Yes, it actually caused me physical pain to write that.

If you can’t watch the video (and that means you’re missing out on some genuinely sweaty pec shots), here’s what Snyder has to say:

These actors, when they train, they’re contemplating and experiencing a physical manifestation of their character: the pain, the goals, the failures, the successes all these things are like this mini-crucible they go through. It’s a cool way to make a movie.
So the slenderness of Gal Gadot is possibly intentional!? It’s all part of Snyder’s “cool” process? Even more relevant to the discussion at hand is that the above video also includes Antje Traue who played the ass-kicking Faora-Ul in Man Of Steel. I had a lot of problems with Zack Snyder’s take. (A. LOT.) But the depictions of Lois Lane and Faora-UI were, surprisingly, not one of them. Is that enough to give me hope that Snyder’s Wonder Woman will be everything we’ve been waiting for since the (equally twiggy) Linda Carter hung up her lasso? Well, no.

Because even if Snyder had cast someone as meaty and yoked as this…

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…or even meaty and yoked and possessing a little more range like this…
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…I’d still be worried. Because as Film School Rejects’ Scott Beggs put it, Zack Snyder is the real problem here. Beggs wrote:

Men get a million shots at being lead superheroes on screen. Women will probably only get this one, and it’s not hard to imagine a studio system that sees failure (or even lower-than-record-breaking performance) as reason to avoid “taking a chance” with a female superhero again…[Snyder] has an abysmal record of directing better-than-bad female performances, even from highly talented actresses, and that’s a hypothesis that doesn’t require a lengthy defense. It’s something almost universally accepted by now. It took Amy Adams to push into the realm of decent acting (in an emotionally disconnected film), so if an Oscar darling can barely survive, how will a neophyte fare?

I think Sucker Punch and its inexplicable defenders constitute one of the hugest missteps in the cinematic effort towards female empowerment in the 20th century. I believe Snyder thinks he made a pro-female film. That might be the most troubling part of all. That in Snyder’s view, women in skimpy outfits, excessive rape (is there any other kind?) and sexual gyration as the ultimate weapon are tantamount to empowerment or a “clever” commentary on societal norms is deeply upsetting. So, yes, I’m still worried about Wonder Woman, but not because of the circumference of her biceps. I’m with Adams (and I guess, Snyder) on this one. Get off her jock and out of her face. Once Snyder is done with her, I’m sure she and her dead eyes will be able to wipe the floor with you.

(via MTV)


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  • Ben

    Can we still think she will suck cause she's a shitty actor? She is continually out acted by the likes of Vin Diesal, and the Rock. I mean I fucking love those guys but acting power houses they are not.

  • That video of Cavill working out (mmmm) also shows the actress who played Faora working the hell out to bulk up. Hardcore muscle-building, and she kicked all kinds of ass in the movie. She and Lady Sif should've ditched their respective man-children and teamed up to kick interstellar ass together.

  • Mary229

    First off, I resent Lois being referred to as "Superman's love interest." Lois Lane is the first woman of Action Comics, the co-star of the Superman mythos for 75 years and one of the only civilian heroes in comics who along with all this stuff has been involved romantically with Superman (including decades as his wife). But she's a female hero as a career woman in the DCU. Referring to her as a "love interest" kind of grates bc she is so much more than that in a still male dominant genre. I think Amy is just trying to point out here that women are often held to unreasonable expectations in terms of their bodies. Lois is known more for her brain/job than her body which is one of the refreshing things about the character. But the overall point that character comes from within and isn't about proportions stands in an industry that always puts a woman's body before her brain.

  • Maddy

    EXACTLY. I never saw Sucker Punch because just the concept of it made me supremely grossed out and uncomfortable. It's also pretty ridiculous to expect human beings to look exactly like comic book characters. I'm sure this actress will train so that she looks buff enough for the part. I'm more concerned that if it doesn't work out everyone will be like 'well this is clearly evidence that female superheroes can't work', because no one says that about Green Lantern or any other failed male-centred 'experiment'. GAHH. I wish they'd gone with someone who has some established acting chops, but who knows she may surprise everyone. I didn't really like Man of Steel, but Amy Adams was the best thing in it.

  • JJ

    Interestingly, Katee Sackhoff, when being interviewed by Collider about the latest Riddick movie, seemed to disagree:
    "I grew up idolizing these male action figures and then slowly there were a couple women in there, but there’s still not a lot. The genre is kind of over-saturated with women that you know couldn’t really physically do it, which I find such a departure. You’re already using your imagination because you’re watching fiction and then you’re trying to believe that this girl who weighs 100 lbs, soaking wet, could actually beat up a guy. Which works in a lot of situations but in a lot of situations you look at it and you’re like, 'Come on. Could you please get someone in there who actually has biceps and not just because they don’t eat?'"

    I'm still holding a torch for Jaimie Alexander, aka Lady Sif, for the role, but that's probably just me.

  • I'm holding a torch for Jaimie Alexander too.

    /sometimes a torch is just a torch

  • tarkin12

    DC has such a better world than Marvel; I'm just so irritated Snyder is steering this ship. The last four sentences sum up my thoughts about Gadot as WW well though.

    But it's painful to watch this movie unfold, just as it was painful to sit through the 143 minutes of poorly acted, grisly fodder that passed as the newest Superman movie.

  • Adam Borden

    I read both DC AND Marvel... I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with DC having a better world. DC is like reading stories about Zues and the gods, from the perspective of the gods. Marvel is like reading about Hercules from the perspective of his friends. Marvel has always had a more grounded approach than DC, which is mostly, pure escapism.

  • NateMan

    I agree with you. There are a few DC stories I really enjoy - mainly Teen Titans and Red Hood & the Outlaws. But I don't like most of their others. They're... dull somehow. Monochromatic.

    On the other hand I've been pretty disappointed in Marvel lately too. The Ultron storyline is depressing. The Age of Apocalypse stuff is depressing and hard to track. X-Men has turned into a joke by flipping half the main characters 'bad' and fanatical terrorists. New Avengers has turned some of the best characters - Reed Richards and Black Panther, for example - into total dillholes. Where the hell has Luke Cage and Iron Fist disappeared to? And Superior Spider-Man.... Well. I want to punch whoever's responsible for that in the throat. Wolverine & the X-Men series is okay, Avengers Academy was okay and Young Avengers is pretty great. But I don't like a lot of the changes they've made.

    Marvel Unlimited has given me LOTS of material to read lately lately, so I can't bitch too much. But I want likeable superheroes back again, and I'm sadly amused that there movie characters have been so much better (IMO) than most of the written ones lately.

  • Adam Borden

    Yeah, lately, they've been trying a little too hard to make dark, blockbuster-like events, and pretty much in EVERY title... I hope they simmer down a bit, bring Peter back (you can punch Dan Slott for that one, but don't, he's a nice guy), and return a little to the status quo. Stop re-inventing every character... there's a reason most of them have survived for 40 plus years.

  • ed newman

    "the way in which Clark Kent has to push his limits to become Superman."

    If this is Snyder's understanding of the character then I am glad I didn't see Man of Steel. Clark Kent is a costume that Superman wears, not the other way around. There is no limit-pushing involved in pretending to be a dork.

  • NateMan

    Disagree. Maybe that's where he ends up, but it makes sense that Clark has to struggle to become Superman. He spends his childhood and teens afraid of what people will think of him, afraid of his own power, afraid of being open about his gifts. He has to accept responsibility for his actions and the damage it's going to do to the people around him. The notion that he's just Superman, without flaws or fears of rejection, is boring to me. And one of the main flaws in the character as originally created.

  • ed newman

    Maybe, but then you are saying that Clark Kent is the default personality of Kal-El, and I just don't buy that. Superman may struggle to be Superman, but he isn't Clark at heart. Not in my book anyway.

  • Adam Borden

    There was a missed opportunity in that movie to show him as a kid accidentally seriously injuring someone with his powers to show WHY he's so deathly afraid to use them. I think the audience needed the visceral reaction, rather than his father just discussing it in theory.

  • Ian Fay

    Indeed. One of the definitive Superman moments, courtesy of the amazing Justice League cartoon:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

  • Davis

    So a black human torch is hunky dory but if they cast a skinny wonder woman people whine and complain? Shut up internet and stop offended at everything

  • James

    first I heard about people disliking her for being skinny.

  • Guest

    Shut up internet and stop offended at everything...

    Have you met the internet? That's one of the pillars it was built on.

  • Internet was built on outrage, cat pictures, memes and porn.

  • mograph

    Can we combine those in one image?

  • Adam Borden

    rule 34

  • NateMan

    But mostly the porn.

  • SamuraiShampoo

    Huh? There was tons of teeth gnashing at the idea of a black human torch.

  • Davis

    People stood up for a black actor but a skinny woman....ewwwwwwwww eat a sandwich

  • NateMan

    I think his point was this site was championing a black torch (and rightly so) but poo-pooing the notion of a thin Wonder Woman because it didn't meet the ideal form. It's a bit of a one-dimensional criticism because it forgets that thin women is the norm in media, but it isn't totally without merit.

  • JoannaRobinson

    I think that's a false equivalency but, more importantly, I have a HUGE crush on Michael B Jordan.

  • Guest

    I only think they championed Black Torch, (which should be his new name) because J.R. has a crush on Michael B Jordon.

  • Davis

    Really? 'go and eat a sandwich', 'real women have curves' those phrases are repeated and used by women all time, famous women even thin isn't the norm thin people are like 'white trash' you're allowed to bash them for some reason.

  • Guest

    Where is this from? I want that movie...

  • L.O.V.E.

    That's not from a movie. Just a flimsy excuse by Pajiba to post gratuitous pics of Amy Adams. The nerve of them!

  • Thank you for including the Night at The Museum shot of Amy as Amelia Earhart. She was particularly proud of how well she fit into those pants.

  • Guest

    Umm... That first (and second and maybe third) pic is not Amy Adams but Rebel Alley (Isla Fisher). who is the like Katy Perry is to Zooey Deschanel (but way more talented then Katy) to Amy Adams.

    I wish Pajiba would post more Amy Adams (and Isla) pics...

  • L.O.V.E.

    As I was going through them I figured that about 50% of them were Isla Fisher. Then I said "fuck it", and posted them anyway. Because...

  • Ryan Ambrose

    And for that you're going to heaven, kind sir.

  • All I want is this to happen

  • Temmere

    That's exactly what I don't want to see happen, because heroes fighting each other is a contrived, stupid cliche. (Seriously, if the next movie is titled Batman vs Superman that is all I will need to hear to know I will not see it.)

  • Be that as it may, I think having Diana come in and completely fuck up Clark and Bruce would be a nice point to make.

  • Amy Adams body like bla-dow!

    /analysis

  • L.O.V.E.

    If those are her post-baby hips then Amy Adams needs to keep getting pregnant.

  • Ian Fay

    Those hips do not tell falsehoods.

  • NateMan

    I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE!!! Or at least baby-daddy.

    Edit: And with my coloring, we'd make the cutest ginger babies EVER. Or at least since the last ginger baby I made.

  • NateMan

    1. The female characters in Dawn of the Dead did not suck.
    2. The one female character in 300 did not suck.
    3. Sucker Punch did indeed suck, but it was a failure as a movie entirely, not just because of troublesome female characters.
    4. Watchmen sucked IMO, but the female characters weren't any worse than the males to me.
    5. Amy Adams and Diane Lane were both good in Man of Steel, and Antje Traue, pretty much an unknown, f***ing ROCKED.
    6. I have no idea on Legend of the Guardians. Did anyone actually watch that movie?

    Oh, and this is what Antje Traue looks like:
    http://www.nylonguysmag.com/ny...

    Did anyone really have trouble buying her as a kick-ass female Kryptonian warrior? I certainly didn't.

    So I'm not sure where this 'track record of abysmal female characters' is coming from. If he's given us terrible female characters in one movie, and fair-to-good characters in all the others, perhaps it's time to pull back on the Snyder hate and, I don't know, judge the film that hasn't even been produced yet on its own merits?

  • aroorda

    I don't know if you noticed but there's been quite a bit of misdirected feminist rage on the site as of late. Some warranted and some (like this article) making mountains out of mole hills.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Legend of the Guardians was a cute animated flick (with some slo-mo owl fighting). It also used almost every fantasy-quest genre out there (brother v brother, evil queen, "surprising" traitor, loose cannon mentor, chosen one who doesn't think he can do it, etc etc).

  • In Dawn of the Dead, you had Sarah Polley, who was the lead. The dumb teenager girl who leaves to rescue her puppy. The pregnant foreign wife of Mekhi Pfiffer. And the slutty blonde. Oh and the old lady that gets shot by Mekhi.

    And I knew Antje Traue from Pandorum, where she did kick ass.

  • NateMan

    Well, dumb and slutty are kinda the horror tropes, so neither of them are surprising. I thought the pregnant wife was an interesting touch. And I wasn't terribly impressed with Pandorum, especially with Dennis Quaid just being TERRIBLE, so I don't remember her at all. But to each their own.

  • True and DotD wasn't a bad movie per se. Nor were 300 nor Watchmen. That said, Sucker Punch was more than awful. It was insulting.

    Pandorum was bad all around. Do remember Traue because she actually was bad-ass without being all nude and "sexy" like most movies would have required her to be.

  • Adam Borden

    The sound track and "cut scenes" in that movie were pretty spectacular. Character development, plot, script and overall story-arch? not so much...

  • NateMan

    No argument from me. I actually shut off Sucker Punch half an hour in. Schoolgirl fetish not withstanding I couldn't even begin to watch that movie.

  • Guest

    1. The female characters in Dawn of the Dead did not suck.

    No, they did actually, except Sarah Polley and that's only because it was Sarah Polley. Same applies to Lena Headey in 300.

    "abysmal female characters" might be a bit harsh but none of Snyder's movies have had strong female characters (or any strong characters really).

    But then that's Hollywood.

  • Dennis Albert Ramirez

    yeah i don't really get all the hate for him either. i'd add on but you got all my points there. though i also don't think he's nearly as bad a filmmaker in general as people make him out to be. he's no artiste, but he's not bad. i'd even venture "pretty good".

  • NateMan

    Well, I'm the outlier who loved Man of Steel. I thought it was better than 2 out of 3 of the Dark Knight movies, Iron Man 2, either Wolverine flick... I really enjoyed it despite its flaws. And the same for 300. So I come at it from a different angle than most.

  • Ian Fay

    Reasons Gal Gadot's physique isn't really an issue:

    Tom Hardy - see Inception, then see Bronson
    Christian Bale - see The Machinist, then see The Dark Knight
    Chris Pratt - see any early Parks & Rec, then see Guardians of The Galaxy

    If it's actually an issue, Gal can easily hire a trainer to make her just as badass as Gina Carano. It's hardly a new thing in Hollywood to do so for a role.

  • Robert Sanchez III

    Girl bulking up to guy bulking up is not the same thing dude. Its almost insulting to say Gal could get as bad ass as Gina Carano ( a former world champion mma fighter) in a few months time. I see joanna's point and it bothers me to think we may get a sucker punch style wonder woman but they could have gone a long way to making it look right with a more Amazonian looking actress.

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  • Vizion

    My problem with this idea is that Hollywood likes muscles on their men, not the women.

    It's no surprise that your aforementioned examples bulked up and got muscular: that is the norm for male action heroes. Female action heroes of the past few years have been on the slender side: Zoe Saldana in Colombiana, Angelina Jolie in Salt etc.

    I hope that Gadot does work on her physique but I somehow don't see the producers or studio really pushing for it.

  • NateMan

    In Hollywood's defense, I don't think most of the male movie-going audience - the usual target audience for action flicks - really enjoys bulked up women. Not saying that's a good or bad thing, not saying that there shouldn't be more acceptance of the variety of female form, because there should be. But typically speaking we like our women sleeker than our men.Or in my case, a lot more curvy.

    Plus, it's not like Wonder Woman is strong just because of the size of her muscles. Certainly the character should be toned, but ripped? Not necessarily.

  • Ben

    Neither is superman, but look at those pics.

  • Ian Fay

    Oh, certainly. Offhand I can really only think of a few leading ladies with serious muscles:

    1) Linda Hamilton, T2
    2) Demi Moore, GI Jane
    3) Gina Carano, Haywire

    (probably forgetting a few - Ripley maybe?)

    But I think this article is more directed at the fan backlash. Whether the studio has the cojones or not to go for it (which they should given the character), it another issue entirely.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Emily Blunt in that upcoming Tom Cruise movie, too. Angelina Jolie vacillates muscleyness among her action roles.

  • JJ

    I think Gadot could get in great shape for the role, simply because Hamilton(5'5", 112lbs) and Moore (5'5", 117lbs) at the time of those films didn't actually have "serious muscles." Those were kickass women who trained their asses off for tough roles. Gadot could very well (and hopefully) do the same.

  • Kate at June

    My fingers are crossed, but I have serious doubts. Those movies were made in the 90's...which was an alarmingly better time for varying body types among women.

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