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“Lost: Something Nice Back Home” (S4/E10) Recap / Daniel Carlson

Lost Recaps | May 6, 2008 | Comments (52)


“Who’s Rodrigo Santoro?” a coworker asked me while reading the paper. “Was he on ‘Lost’?”

“Yeah,” I said, “he was the guy who played Paulo on the underrated diamonds-and-buried-alive episode last season.”

“Ugh, I hated that episode.”

“Why?”

“Because nothing happened,” she said. “It’s like they said, ‘Hey, we’ve got a great big story but we’re gonna stop and do something that has nothing to do with it and doesn’t reveal a damn thing.’”

“You just gotta be OK with that,” I said. “Watching ‘Lost’ is like watching Memento if it was six years long.”

“Don’t even get me started on Memento,” she said. “Frogs falling from the sky?”

At that point I turned my attention to other matters. Still, I think my larger point is a valid one: “Lost” tells you everything you need to know, you just have to take the ride. The characters and their relationships are in a constant state of flux, and the story details are always relevant to the larger mythology of the island. And of course, the greatest thing about the flashforwards is the way they invert viewer expectations and shift the focus of the tension within a given scene. The tenth episode of the show’s fourth season, “Something Nice Back Home,” was great at this. Jack’s illness worsened and his appendix had to be removed on the island, but since he’s guaranteed to live to see the future, the scenes involving Jack on the island aren’t about whether he’ll survive the surgery but how his condition plays itself out between the (currently) two main women in his life. The question isn’t whether Jack will recover, but what will happen to Juliet when he does.

Anyway: The episode opens with a close-up of Jack’s eye. A lot of the episodes open like this, but it’s always somehow more meaningful when the eye in question is Jack’s, since it was that shot that opened the pilot episode. Juliet attempts to revive a bleary Jack from a deep and apparently sweaty and disgusting afternoon nap, and outside his tent, Bernard is shouting at someone. Jack awakes and stumbles with Juliet’s help out to the shore, where Bernard is harassing Daniel and demanding to know (for what will by no means by the last time) what’s really going on, but Daniel and Charlotte plead ignorance. Bernard wants to know why the jury-rigged sat phone is no longer working, but come on, Bernard: You let on right away that you knew Morse, so there’s no way Daniel’s gonna let you hear him communicate with the ship again. Jack calms everyone down and tries to remind that he promised them they would all be safe and find rescue, but he barely makes it through the speech before passing out and pitching forward into the sand, causing no small amount of panic.

First flashforward: Jack’s in bed when the phone rings. It’s a nurse reminding him about a patient consult that’s been rescheduled. Jack moseys downstairs in what’s clearly the same house Kate was living in a few episodes ago during her courtroom flashforward, so it’s no surprise that Jack heads back up to the bathroom to surprise the woman waiting in the shower. Presumably it was episode director Stephen Williams who tried to milk the suspense by altering the voice of the woman in the shower the same way Ben’s voice was futzed with at the end of “The Economist” when he was talking with Sayid. The show wants a visual reveal, not an auditory one, but since this isn’t a comic book, they have to figure out how to delay the inevitable. But of course, as soon as Kate appears in the shower door, her voice is back to its airy self. Later on, Jack reads a bedtime story to the toddler Aaron from Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, ending with some quotes about the nature of the self that are probably lost on the boy but haunt Jack, who’s living with the kid of his half-sister who may or may not be dead on a deserted island. Kate tells Jack he’s a natural with the kid, and they have a nice little moment in the hall outside Aaron’s room that all but guarantees they’ll implode. I mean, they have to: Eventually Jack grows a beard, becomes an alcoholic, and starts flying around the world praying for a crash.

Back on the island, Jack regains consciousness and starts stumbling around while everyone watches him warily. He blows off Kate’s orders to rest and walks away, insisting that he’s fine. Meanwhile, out in the jungle, Sawyer is still hiking with Claire and Miles as they make their way back to the beach. They’re making their way through the patch of trees recognizable as the place where Rousseau and Karl were killed, too. Claire says she’s still got a bit of a headache from the explosion that almost killed her, but at least she’s “not seeing things any more.” This piques Miles’ interest, but Sawyer looks at him and growls, “Back off, Donger.” Awesome. As they walk, Miles slows down and has a vivid sensory experience of Rousseau being gunned down, and he feebly asks, “Who’s Danielle and Karl?” This rightly spooks Sawyer and Claire a little, but not as much as when Miles starts pawing at the loose soil and finds the corpses of Rousseau and Karl right below the surface. Sawyer tells Miles it was his commando buddies that did this, but Miles pleads ignorance. “I didn’t sign up for this,” Miles says. Aaron starts crying, and they all set off again for the main camp.

Down at the beach, Juliet brings Jack some water and asks what’s wrong with him. Jack says it’s food poisoning, but Juliet disagrees in a tone that says she knows he’s lying. She feels his side and determines it’s his appendix, and Jack drops the charade. He tells Juliet the pain started yesterday but that the appendix hasn’t ruptured yet. “Well,” she says, “I guess we’re just gonna have to take it out.” Even for someone who’s used to life on the island, Juliet doesn’t seem too phased by this. Before long, she’s written out a list of supplies to be retrieved from the medical station, the Staff. She gives the list to Sun, but when Sun explains she doesn’t know what all the items look like, Daniel offers to go along and help. Rose shoots that down, and Charlotte tells Daniel that the castaways don’t want outside help so he might as well not try. Daniel wheels on her and gives her his sternest whisper, chastising her for having a bad attitude and ruining everything. (He should lecture Miles if that guy ever makes it back.) Daniel tells Juliet that he just wants to help, and she agrees to let him and Charlotte go on the supply run, but not before she hands Jin a pistol with orders to shoot the legs out from under Daniel or Charlotte if they try anything funny. Juliet then starts organizing everyone else to create a sterile environment in a tent, or as much of one is possible. Kate asks why they don’t just move Jack to the medical facility, and Juliet, never one to resist a moment of drama, says that if they move Jack, his appendix could rupture and he could die. Quick jaunt to the jungle: Miles is creepily watching Claire as they rest by a creek. Sawyer walks up and tells Miles to cut it out, adding that Miles now has a restraining order and isn’t allowed to talk to Claire or go within 20 feet. Miles threatens to get all douchey about it, but Sawyer puts his foot down. Back out on the beach, Bernard’s telling Rose that Jack will come through his surgery just fine. Rose counters that she’s actually worried about why Jack got sick in the first place, since the island has a pretty good track record of healing people. She’s convinced that something weird is going on since Jack is the one who’s about to get them all rescued, and it’s almost like the island is taking it out on him. Bernard has no real idea what to say. Meanwhile, Juliet shaves Jack’s stomach in preparation for the really unhygienic operation she’s mere hours away from performing. Jack says he wants to talk Juliet through the procedure, using lidocaine to numb the area but leaving Jack conscious so he can watch himself being cut open in a mirror. Just for sheer emotional torment, he wants Kate to hold the mirror, too. Juliet’s not happy about the idea, but she doesn’t turn him down.

Second flashforward: Jack walks a woman through the lobby of his office, explaining the procedure she’s about to have. As they part, he sees his dad — his dead, missing from the coffin, stuck somewhere on Hell Island dad — sitting in the reception area. Christian then rises and walks out, leaving Jack watching in terror; it’s clear that no one else sees it happen, but you also have to wonder if it hasn’t happened before, given that Jack takes the sighting in panicked stride instead of running screaming from the building. Another doctor, Erika, walks up to Jack, and he turns his attention to the X-rays in her hands before being stopped by the receptionist, who tells him he’s got a phone call from a doctor out at Santa Rosa hospital about a “friend” of Jack’s. Later, Jack goes out to Santa Rosa, where he finds out that the friend in question has stopped taking his meds and refuses to believe in the reality of the world around him. Jack is led to a private room and finds Hurley there, sitting on the edge of the bed, staring at the wall. Jack asks why Hurley won’t take his pills, and Hurley responds that it’s because he and the rest of the Oceanic Six are actually dead, so it doesn’t matter. “We never got off that island,” Hurley says. Jack tells Hurley about life with Kate and Aaron, and Hurley contends that Jack must feel like he’s in heaven because of the way things are working out. Jack tells Hurley that his happiness doesn’t mean that the world is artificial, but Hurley doesn’t seem to care. He tells Jack that he’s been getting visits from Charlie, who has a message for Jack that Hurley’s written down. “You’re not supposed to raise him, Jack,” Hurley reads, which pretty much scares the hell out of Jack. Hurley asks Jack if the “he” in the message is Aaron, but Jack just tells Hurley to take his meds as he heads for the door. Hurley stops Jack with a chilling warning: “Charlie said someone’s gonna be visiting you, too. Soon.” Jack just turns and walks away because, well, after a tour on Hell Island, the idea of ghosts probably isn’t that extreme.

Out in the jungle, Jin, Sun, Daniel, and Charlotte arrive at the Staff station. Daniel tells Charlotte he’ll go first to make sure it’s safe, and Jin and Sun discuss the mild flirtation in Korean. When they do, Charlotte gives them a little smile, but Jin’s way too sharp to let that go, so he files it away for later. Jin and Sun keep speaking in Korean as they all search the station for the requisite supplies, and he does his best to calm her fears about being rescued. “I will get you and our baby off this island,” he tells her; the hell of it is, we know it will happen. While they’re rooting around for surgical tools, Sawyer, Claire, and Miles are still making their way to the beach. (Sometimes the island feels really huge.) Claire trips a little, and Miles offers to help carry the baby, which Sawyer wisely rejects. They hear a rustling in the trees ahead, and Sawyer just has time to raise his rifle and get in front of Claire when Frank Lapidus, the chopper pilot, comes running toward them. Frank tells them all they have to hide right away because Keamy and his crew are closing in; he’s even got sat phone radar to prove it. I’d thought Keamy and the rest were eaten by the smoke monster, but I guess they were just thrashed about. The trio takes cover right as Keamy and the rest of the soldiers appear, looking pretty beat up but better than dead. Aaron makes a little gurgling noise, causing Keamy to turn around and begin eyeing the treeline around him. He gets close to Sawyer and Claire, but Frank saves them by making the hard sell about wanting to get off the island and back to the ship before nightfall, since flying Daniel’s specific escape bearings at night isn’t something Frank is keen on doing. Keamy eventually quits the search and leaves Sawyer, Claire, and Miles hiding in the bush. At the beach, Juliet tells Kate she’ll be assisting in the surgery, which Kate rightly thinks is probably unwise, but Juliet tells her it won’t be too hard. Jack emerges from the tent, determined to at least make it to the operating area under his own power, but Kate rushes to his side to help. As they walk, Kate tells Jack she’s going to be his makeshift nurse, and in a nice in-house nod to the pilot, he reminds her it won’t be the first time. He also tries to deliver some version of a last request in case he doesn’t make it, but she shuts him up.

Third flashforward: Jack is sitting in his car outside Santa Rosa, staring at the picnic bench where Hurley said he sits and chats with Charlie. He looks like he’s almost ready to get out and see if anyone shows up, but instead he drives home. He wakes up Kate and asks her again if she thinks he’s “good at this,” meaning being a father. She tears up a little and says that he is. He takes a minute before looking at her and saying, “Will you marry me?” He pulls a ring from his pocket as she cries and says yes. He slides the ring on her finger, they embrace, and the fall they’ll eventually take gets that much worse.

Surgery time. Sun, Jin, Daniel, and Charlotte return to the beach after dark with the supplies for Charlotte, and Juliet and Sun head off to sterilize the instruments. Jin takes this opportunity to pull Charlotte aside and call her on her secret language abilities. “I know you understand me,” he says in Korean. He tells her he knows she heard what he and his wife were saying at the Staff. She says she doesn’t know what he’s saying and that Sun should translate, but Jin finally says, again in Korean, “If you continue to lie, I’m going to hurt your friend Daniel. I’m going to break his fingers one at a time.” Charlotte knows from Jin’s eyes that he’s serious. She replies in Korean, “What do you want?” Jin says he just wants Sun on the helicopter and off the island. Charlotte asks about the others, but Jin says he just cares about Sun’s escape. Charlotte nods, accepting his proposal, and he walks off. Over at the makeshift M*A*S*H, Bernard tells Jack he could use the chloroform to knock him out so he can dream about “something nice back home” instead of staying awake through the painful procedure. Jack refuses, and Bernard reluctantly lets it go. Then Juliet starts the surgery, and it’s easily among the more graphic things the series has done; combined with the earlier discovery of the corpses, this episode is right up there in terms of blood and guts. Jack starts squirming and barking those manly grunts that mean he’s in some serious pain, and Juliet finally overrules Jack and has Bernard knock him out to keep him from getting out of control. Juliet orders Kate out of the room as Bernard raises a cloth to Jack’s mouth and puts him under.

Fourth flashforward: Jack is in his office late at night, looking over X-rays and dictating notes into a recorder when he hears a faint beep coming from outside. He walks down the hall to the reception area and finds that the smoke detector — pretty randomly placed over the receptionist’s desk — is beeping, though whether it senses smoke or is losing battery isn’t yet clear. Jack drags up a chair and pulls the battery from the detector, and as soon as he gets down, he hears a voice call his name. He turns to see his father sitting in the darkened reception area, clad in a suit and looking patient as ever. Jack walks slowly toward Christian with a mixture of fear and determination, as if he’s expected this for some time now, but before he gets there, Erika appears again and asks if he’s all right. He’s on the verge of panicked tears as he tells her he was just fixing the smoke detector, and he asks her to write him a prescription for clonazepam so he can relax. She does it, but with a trace of reservation. She tells him to talk to someone about his stress, and he says he will. Jack heads home and finds Kate in the kitchen, talking on the phone about having the nanny stay for a couple extra hours so she can go somewhere. She hangs up when she sees Jack walk in and tells him she was talking to Noreen, one of the “moms from the park.” Jack doesn’t believe her, but he lets her go upstairs so he can grab a beer and take the first pill of the prescription he’s already had filled.

But things are about to get even crazier. Camping in the jungle, Claire wakes up to find Sawyer and Miles asleep and Aaron nowhere around. She sits up with a start and looks around, and that’s when she sees Christian Shephard — her father as well as Jack’s — sitting on the other side of the fire and gently rocking Aaron. “Dad?” she says. This is the most mobile dead guy in history.

Down on the beach, Bernard finds Kate and tells her the surgery went well and that she can go see Jack now. Kate heads in and finds Juliet stitching up Jack, who’s asleep but looking better. Juliet apologizes for yelling at Kate, and Kate barely has time to forgive her before Juliet adds that Jack kissed her the other day. Kate’s a little taken aback, but Juliet just keeps plowing emotionlessly ahead, saying that Jack’s kiss wasn’t born of love but was instead probably his attempt to prove that he cared about Juliet and not someone else. It’d be easier if Juliet were a little disappointed by this turn of events she relates so casually, or at least hurt, but she’s just so depressingly no-nonsense about it that it makes it worse. It’s almost as if she expected it to happen, and would’ve been surprised if it hadn’t. Kate thanks her for saving Jack’s life and leaves. Juliet says, “I know you’re awake,” and Jack opens his eyes. Neither of them speaks.

Fifth flashforward: Kate comes home to find Jack in the living room, a drink in his hand and open bottles on the low table before him. (It looks like Jack is mixing liquor, wine, and at least three bottles of Negro Modelo; have fun tomorrow, man.) Jack says he sent the nanny home but asks Kate why she’d been there so late in the first place. Kate says she needed the nanny to stay since she had errands to run. She asks why Jack is home so early, and Jack says it’s because he went to see Hurley the other day. This doesn’t make a lot of sense as an answer, but Kate goes with it. “Why didn’t you tell me?” Kate asks, to which Jack replies, “Because he’s crazy, Kate, and I didn’t want to upset you.” He asks her where she was, and Kate just says Jack will have to trust her and just leave it be. This answer would probably not work in any circumstance, let alone one in which your fiancĂ© has been drinking to erase the memories of the time you spent together on a ghost-infested island, so of course Jack doesn’t let it go. He keeps asking where she was, and she keeps refusing to tell him until she finally cracks and says, “I was doing something for him. … For Sawyer. I made him a promise.” It’s the last thing Jack wants to hear, and his world starts to crumble a little as he realizes that he can’t have Kate to himself even with Sawyer gone from the picture. Kate says what she was up to has nothing to do with Jack but that Sawyer wouldn’t want him to know what was happening. “But he’s not here, is he?” Jack asks her. “He made his choice. He chose to stay. I’m the one who came back. I’m the one who’s here. I’m the one who saved you.” This is what it’s all about for Jack. Kate tells him to keep it down and not act this way around her son, but Jack just shouts, “You’re not even related to him!” Kate gasps like this is way over the line, and she looks past Jack to see Aaron walking around the corner into the room. She picks him up and starts to cry as Jack walks away, fighting back tears himself. If it’s not over, I don’t know how they’ll walk that back.

Back in the jungle, Sawyer wakes up in the morning to find Miles poking absently at the dying fire. Sawyer asks if Claire’s off relieving herself, but Miles says she’s gone, that she walked off into the jungle in the middle of the night with a guy she called “Dad.” Miles says he would have stopped her if not for Sawyer’s restraining order, at which point Sawyer readies his weapon and prepares to give Miles a righteously deserved pistol-whipping, but he stops when he hears a baby crying. Sawyer grabs his rifle and runs off, calling for Claire. But he only finds Aaron, lying in a bush and bawling his little confused head off. Sawyer picks up the baby and keeps shouting Claire’s name, but it’s no use. As sure as the sun rises in the east, as sure as there will always be an England, Claire is going to get kidnapped. Maybe she went willingly with her ghost dad, but it doesn’t matter. That girl needs a whole team watching her.

As always, the episode gave a few answers while asking more questions, something “Lost” does effortlessly by now. But I can live with not knowing what Kate’s doing for Sawyer as long as Sawyer is still alive and (mostly) well back on Hell Island. Also, it’s interesting that there is/was/will be some element of choice involved as far as who leaves the island and who stays, and that’s going to be a battle.

Daniel Carlson is the managing editor of Pajiba and a low-level employee at a Hollywood industry magazine. You can visit his blog, Slowly Going Bald.









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Comments

Now, I didn't take the time to rewind my DVR at the end of the episode. But did Jack have a scar on his stomach during the flashforward?

Since I just had an appendectomy myself a few months back, I have a good sized indent in my stomach now.

That leaves to question: a.) did they just forget to give him one. or b.) does Hurley's rant about being in Heaven seem plausible?

Posted by: Colin at May 6, 2008 12:16 PM

As sure as the sun rises in the east, as sure as there will always be an England, Claire is going to get kidnapped. Maybe she went willingly with her ghost dad, but it doesn't matter. That girl needs a whole team watching her.

That just made me laugh out loud in the middle class, but it's so true. Too bad they don't have lo-jacks on the island.

I think even if it hadn't been established in earlier episodes that Jack and Kate aren't together, you could tell shit was gonna hit the fan.

Posted by: jM at May 6, 2008 12:40 PM

i think i am mostly curious if the season finale will be the battle to get off the island or if there is still more island nonsense next season? my guess is the former, as then next season could logically be about hurley and jack going 'back' to the island.

Posted by: mums at May 6, 2008 12:42 PM

maybe the promise made to sawyer... has something to do w/clementine, sawyer's daughter. i can think of nothing else....

Posted by: kikz at May 6, 2008 12:50 PM

So... uh, what exactly is this show about anyhow? Never heard of it... Sounds kinda dorky... BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA (....coughing fit...) Haaaaaa!!

...runs across room, slides across table "Dukes of Hazzard" style, leaps onto ottoman and dives through the window in extreme slo-mo while pigeons take flight in the light of the dying sun... About 10 minutes later, the sounds of approaching sirens fill the air, as I have landed on a hydrant, breaking several bones upon impact. I am also laying in a puddle of my own filth, as my bowels have emptied out of pain...

In all seriousness Mr. Carlson, your reviews/recaps are beautifully written. I just can't get into the show...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at May 6, 2008 12:54 PM

And did you see the previews for next week??? The guy who said he has been dead for 12 years....so people don't freaking die on this island??!?? I am going crazy with this show, but I love it. This means that we will be seeing familiar faces again. I really want to see Danielle's story.

Posted by: lyricalcatt at May 6, 2008 1:12 PM

Agree with kikz re: Clementine. Which would likely be crazy for Kate because she worked with Clementine's mother.
Charlotte (Lewis, another author reference!) half smiled after the exchange with Jin. I think she is working for Sun's father.
Colin, the HD people say Jack definitely had a scar on his abdomen. Or maybe the Island felt bad and helped him heal.
Smoke detector beeping maybe means Jack's dad was the Smoke Monster, yes?

Posted by: Stew at May 6, 2008 1:12 PM

Great recap.

Miles is the new Hurley. He and Sawyer were a riot this episode.

Posted by: Cindy at May 6, 2008 1:16 PM

Stew, yeah, I figured he did, but I couldn't remember, and that was the first thing I thought of after his surgery. laziness got the better of me...

Posted by: Colin at May 6, 2008 1:18 PM

Remind me again how Jack and Clair are half-siblings. Did Christian impregnate Clair's mom on a previous trip to Austrailia? Maybe for a medical convention? And Jack and Clair don't know they are related, do they? I'm sorry, there was a time I didn't pay close attention to the details, and was close to giving up on "Lost." Now there are some holes in my recollection of the narrative.

Posted by: rlr260 at May 6, 2008 1:26 PM

"You're not even related to him!"

That would be a rather odd way to say it if Jack was just denying that Aaron was actually Kate's son. It makes more sense (to me) that he would say it like that if he knew that HE was related to Aaron, so I'm thinking Jack will find that out pretty soon.

rlr260 -- Yeah, that's basically it. I don't think we know how Christian and Claire's mom hooked up, but half-siblings-but-don't-know-it sums up Jack and Claire pretty well.

Posted by: Todd at May 6, 2008 1:36 PM

Um, did anybody else notice that the guy who "had been dead for 12 years" was in the "Man behind the Curtain" epi last year? He was "Percy Wetmore" in "The Green Mile" too.

OOOOOOHHHH, I like that idea, Stew, of Christian+beeping smoke detector=Christiansmokey!

Uh, Skit, are you ok?

Posted by: dammitjanet at May 6, 2008 1:58 PM

Jack and Claire may not know they share a father, but Christian had been making an effort before his death to reconnect with Claire - remember when Ana Lucia drove him to her house, where he pounded on the door demanding to see her?

I'm so damn happy we're getting a Sayid/Desmond episode next week. I need my fix!

Posted by: Kolby at May 6, 2008 2:10 PM

Ah, Sayid and Desmond hotness. Curly hair, accents and drooling (on my part).

Posted by: Cindy at May 6, 2008 2:29 PM

I thought if Jack knew (about Claire) he would've said "You're not the one related to him!" because that would be more cutting. :shrugs:
Yesss finally some boat action.

Posted by: Stew at May 6, 2008 2:39 PM

I can no longer defend myself against these attacks I face on a daily basis. My work here at pajiba is nearly complete and therefore I will not accept a contract extension. I was asked to come to pajiba to help promote it's brand and I think I've done a wonderful job. I was offered a very generous financial package to stay, but at this time I declined. I want to thank all of you for the many emails and phone calls, but my abilities are needed elsewhere.

Posted by: Pookie at May 6, 2008 2:46 PM

The smoke alarm wasn't beeping enough for there to be smoke, and smoke alarms in commercial buildings don't beep when the battery's dead. They are hard wired to the electrical system, so they always have power. Some writer just needed an excuse for Jack to need to leave his office.

Posted by: chad at May 6, 2008 2:50 PM

Ah man, no one died in this episode. Been a while since that happened. In any case I have a feeling claire is gone for good. Sawyer gives Kate the kid, end of story. Too bad really, I liked her.

Posted by: the_wakeful at May 6, 2008 2:58 PM

I thought if Jack knew (about Claire) he would've said "You're not the one related to him!" because that would be more cutting.

Knowing Lost, I'm sure that was purposely ambiguous.

Posted by: Cindy at May 6, 2008 3:02 PM

Curly hair, accents and drooling (on my part).

I believe you mean, luscious man-locks. Yeah, I miss Des and Sayid. Sorry, but Jack just doesn't compare to those two.

Posted by: jM at May 6, 2008 3:20 PM

another great recap! i immediately thought of clementine when kate said she was doing something for sawyer as well. when miles was staring at claire, do you think he was honing in on christian's presence? also, i loved the "donger" reference :)

Posted by: kelley at May 6, 2008 3:23 PM

I don't think we've seen the last of Claire. That's an awfully big cliffhanger to just drop... But whether she actually makes it back to the camp by the time the Oceanic Six get rescued is definitely a good question.

Although I've got to say, I was really surprised that they killed off Rousseau the way they did. I was sure she'd have somehow evaded death and was licking her wounds and preparing to wreak some righteous havoc on the soldiers. Guess not. Then again, with Lost death doesn't mean as much...

Posted by: The Wandering Parakeet at May 6, 2008 3:26 PM

I think you "you're not related" comment IS because Jack knows. His and Claire's father popped up so much this episode that they have to somehow find out.

Posted by: artificialsweet at May 6, 2008 3:28 PM

apparently i haven't paying as close attention as i should have- someone please 'splain to me how you know that jack becomes the derelict after the inevitable break up with kate and that his downfall wasn't prior to her legal battle... maybe he pulled himself together for that and then they hooked up...

Posted by: stephanie at May 6, 2008 3:37 PM

My gut is telling me that when he said "you're not even related to him" he knows. I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow finds out that he's related to Claire after they get off the island and that is what convinces him that he should see the baby? Maybe. Also, maybe Jack has some level of responsibility for Claire not making it off the island and that's why he can't bring himself to see Aaron for so long? That never made much sense to me before, so maybe that's it.

Oh, and Dustin, you touched on it at the beginning. I am SO fucking sick of people saying that episodes aren't good because "nothing happened" or "we didn't find anything out." It's called character development, fucknoggins. That's the whole point of a TV series like this. If the only point was for "something to happen" it would be a shitty two hour movie. Fucks.

Posted by: Joe at May 6, 2008 4:44 PM

did anybody else get the impression that the whole miles staring at claire thing was a bit bizarre even for lost? i thought that maybe he wasnt looking at claire, but at aaron. i havent seen anyone else talk about that.

also, anyone think claire may be dead? that would explain miles' fascination (defeat the theory i just posted above, but thats irrelevant). claire saw christian, and so has jack. kate also saw her dead horse. the odds of people communicating with the dead dont seem that far fetched for lost (especially assuming that the guy from the preview may actually have been dead fro 12 years).

Posted by: Matt at May 6, 2008 5:02 PM

hmmm.. jack's big meltdown. i'd assumed.. that becuz so much was made of the settlement w/the airline and all the references to being a 6... the timeline was just after they'd gotten back, and before kate's trial. i dunno though.

maybe milesdouche was picking up on something ta do w/aaron. what else would've interested him about claire?

i'm also ripped about frenchie. mistake they killed her off.

inre sawyer... he'd wanted to stay and play house w/kate, nothing to go back to/for.. not even clementine.
but, safely say, he's not stayin someplace w/no nookie. >:)

smokemonster is on my list >:/ sloppy monstering.. but i guess we had to have some protagonists frm the ship left.

anybody know how many more episodes we have left this season?

Posted by: kikz at May 6, 2008 5:35 PM

Based on the timeline presented (with newspaper dates), the drunk Jack occurs after he and Kate break off their engagement.
Claire has to make it back to the beach (dead or not), at least based on Desmond. According to him, Claire gets on a helicopter after Charlie dies. It also goes along with Jack's off-Island lie: 8 people survive the crash, 2 die later. If all of that is true, then they probably lied about Claire being Aaron's mother to make their survival more miraculous, and also give Kate more leverage for not going to jail.
Of course, as Ben said, Widmore changed the rules.

Posted by: Stew at May 6, 2008 6:31 PM

I just have to say that I really love that Sawyer is finally stepping up to the plate as serious alpha dog this season, and it is awesome to see him totally worried for Claire's sake.

Posted by: mightygodking at May 6, 2008 7:06 PM

Yeah, I liked Sawyer in this too. His exchanges with Miles were funny. Poor Jack - it's interesting to see the start of his decline. I kinda wished he got with Juliet but I guess it was always going to be Kate. I read somewhere [here?] that Jack would find out about Claire in this series. Maybe with Christian's reappearance it will finally come up.

Posted by: Subi at May 6, 2008 10:10 PM

I believe you mean, luscious man-locks.

Yes, I suppose I do - though I must say that Desmond maybe even looked hotter with his hair short.

kikz, there are 3 more episodes. One regular and then a two part finale. The bummer is that there is a week in between the two parts.

stephanie We saw Jack turn into an addicted mess in the Season 3 finale, I believe - in the first flash forward. I think people feel it is logical for the broken down Jack to have happened after the trial because it seems like this episode's forward flash happened after the trial. Kate mentions that she's glad Jack changed his mind (about seeing Aaron), which refers to a conversation they had right after the trial.

Posted by: Cindy at May 6, 2008 10:47 PM

Also, when Kate and Jack meet up in the season 3 finale, Kate says she has "to get back to him." Now it seems like she was talking about Aaron.

Posted by: oaklandcat at May 7, 2008 1:10 AM

I liked this episode, but didn't like the ending. Not the idea, but just the "claire....claire....CLAAAAAAAAAAAIRE"

That only works if you're yelling "snake."

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at May 7, 2008 1:11 AM

I'm sorry, but does the Kate/Jack storyline bore anyone else to tears? I love almost everything about this show, but after four seasons of these two, I really couldn't give two shits about them. Whining and heavy looks gets old after a while.

I'm interested in what's happening with aaron. Claire was told that no one but her should raise aaron. I wonder what sort of demon child he's going to turn into... Any ideas?

Posted by: Betty at May 7, 2008 1:22 AM

I still don't get what exactly Jin and Charlotte were hashing out with the whole "Charlotte speaks Korean" thing. Jin threatens physical harm against Daniel if Charlotte doesn't stop lying, so Charlotte offers to help him get Sun off the island...in exchange for what, exactly? So that Jin won't expose the fact that...she speaks Korean? Or the fact that the freighter's not there to rescue the Losties? Because the cat's out of the bag on both points, really, so I fail to understand where Jin has leverage here.

Posted by: Jen at May 7, 2008 3:37 AM

What's a Donger?

Posted by: Irina at May 7, 2008 3:42 AM

the donger is the nickname for the stereotypical asian character in the movie sixteen candles...you know, the dude that says "what's happening, hot stuff?"

Posted by: kelley at May 7, 2008 6:03 AM

Jen, Jin told Charlotte that if she didn't take Sun off the island he would break Daniel's fingers one by one (and I assume continue on to worse things). When Jin and Sun were discussing that Daniel had a crush on Charlotte, she smiled - indicating some sort of pleasure. From that, I suppose we're to think that Charlotte wouldn't want Daniel hurt or killed. I'd also guess that Charlotte would know that the threat extended to her as well.

Posted by: Cindy at May 7, 2008 7:43 AM

Um, did anybody else notice that the guy who "had been dead for 12 years" was in the "Man behind the Curtain" epi last year? He was "Percy Wetmore" in "The Green Mile" too.

Tooms?

Eugene Victor Tooms was/is in Lost? And I failed to notice it the first time? I'm slipping, for sure.

Posted by: Adere at May 7, 2008 7:45 AM

kikz, I gotta say this; I hate to embarrass you, but your typing style gives me a fucking headache.

Your enthusiasm for LOST is great, and you are clearly someone who watches the show and keeps track of the mysteries and clues--better than I do myself. And I'm not trying to flame you, honest.

But Sweet Chocolate Jesus, could you please try to express yourself more like a brain-owning human being and less like a 10-year-old texting tard?

I like your contributions to the discussion, but trying to read them they way they are delivered makes my teeth itch.

Posted by: Jerce at May 7, 2008 11:14 AM

Um, did anybody else notice that the guy who "had been dead for 12 years" was in the "Man behind the Curtain" epi last year? He was "Percy Wetmore" in "The Green Mile" too.

His name is Doug Hutchison and he is frickin' AWESOME...He is a "That Guy" I've been seeing in stuff for years.

He played a terrific monster in an early episode of "The X-Files;" I saw him recently on one of the "Law & Order"s as a nasty evil murderer; and he was absolutely hateful in The Green Mile.

Whenever I see him I know I'm in for a good/great performance, and I'm tickled shitless to see him on LOST.

Posted by: Jerce at May 7, 2008 11:23 AM

I'm starting to think more about how death and dead people fit into the whole thing. The original four freighter people who came to the island were said to have been chosen because of their specific skills. So far we know that Lapidus is there for his piloting skills (and something about how he should have been one of the original flight 815 pilots?), Daniel is there because of his knowledge about the time shifts and the constant, Charlotte we don't know yet, and all we know about Miles is that he can speak to the dead. Who was he meant to speak to if he was sent for this reason? Is it the unknown people on the island that we're going to discover next week, or is it our Losties who seem to be somewhere between life and death (but not purgatory, of course). When Hurley said that they're all actually dead things started falling into place. I don't know where I'm going with this because we don't have enough information yet, and it seems like we'll learn more about that this Thursday. Hopefully.

Count me in as another one who doesn't give two rats assess about Jack and Kate. I'm pretty tired of them actually, and they detract from whatever scene they're in.

Posted by: katy at May 7, 2008 12:37 PM

Here's what I don't understand - Well, one of the things anyway. When Jack confronts Kate about what she was doing, why the hell wouldn't she just tell him? Granted, he's got a case of the jealous-pants about Sawyer, but unless Kate was out speed humping his old con buddies or something equally as unsavory, I don't understand her reluctance. Certainly Jack wouldn't begrudge her doing a solid for one of the guys back on the island. I don't even accept the "He wouldn't want me to tell you"excuse either. The stupid heifer didn't need to lie in the first place, but certainly not after she was caught. What do you think she was doing that was so unspeakable?

Posted by: Tae at May 7, 2008 1:40 PM

I still think that Jack and Juliet have better chemistry. Jack and Kate are like the Ross and Rachel of LOST - We're going to be beating their story out until the very end.

Does nobody remember in the finale of Season 3 when in the flash forward Jack yells to that one doctor "You go upstairs and find my father - he's probably drunker than I am!" (or something to that effect) - we all thought it was because Jack was wasted and having trouble remembering things, but it looks now that maybe his father really IS upstairs (drunk or not drunk)...

Ummm btw - Christian Shephard is TOTALLY Jacob.

Posted by: sarah at May 7, 2008 2:58 PM

Is anyone else pumped for the inevitable showdown between Desmond and Sayid? Man-lock battle!

Think about it:

Ben wants to kill Penny. Sayid works for Ben. Desmond will try to save Penny.

I get goosebumps just thinking about it.

Posted by: Brett at May 7, 2008 5:51 PM

Is anyone else pumped for the inevitable showdown between Desmond and Sayid? Man-lock battle!

Think about it:

Ben wants to kill Penny. Sayid works for Ben. Desmond will try to save Penny.

/goosebumps

Posted by: Brett at May 7, 2008 5:52 PM

God d@mnit.

Posted by: Brett at May 7, 2008 6:02 PM

gee jerce.... don't hate to embarrass me, cuz ya aren't.

too bad you have itchy teeth and a headache. may i suggest a toothbrush and aspirin?

thanks cindy, for the season countdown.

Posted by: kikz at May 7, 2008 10:48 PM

katy that Hurley line about them being dead got to me as well. Part of me wonders if the O-6 are dead on the island, and yet not dead back on the mainland? That whole can't be dead until the island says so thing? But I can't make much sense of my broken thoughts either.

tae I think that both Kate and Jack are overly sensitive when it comes to anything to do with Sawyer. Everyone knows Sawyer has a thing for Kate. Jack has trust issues (with good reason) and there may still be something going on with Kate and Sawyer that we haven't seen.
Meanwhile, I think Kate also has unresolved feelings for Sawyer, even though she wants to be with Jack. So she lied in a situation where it would have been better to be truthful - thinking she was sparing Jack's feelings.

Posted by: Cindy at May 7, 2008 11:06 PM

I know the ep. wasn't about Hurley but I wonder what role he has in all this? I mean he's obviously not in a good place figuratively or literally but I think his 'light relief' persona belies the deep problems he evidently has. Has he become some sort of 'connector' between life and death? I don't know, I'm just saying. He's gotten kinda spooky. In fact, most of the O6 don't seem to be doing well at all. Sun's grieving, Sayid's crossed to the dark [Ben] side, Hurley's gone nuts, Jack's unravelling. Kate seems to have got the best deal so far. But you never know what's in store.
PS Yep, the Kate/Jack storyline bores me too. It shits me how she's strung him and Sawyer along for so long. Make up your damn mind already.

Posted by: Subi at May 7, 2008 11:48 PM

remember in a season 1 claire ep when the psychic told her a "nice couple in LA" could raise her baby, and he gave her the 815 plane ticket? Must be Kate & Jack, right?

Posted by: jmad at May 8, 2008 4:50 PM

Um I don't know if it's meant as an inside joke or something I just don't get but "frogs falling from the sky" is actually Magnolia, not Memento...
Anyway, on to the episode - I just couldn't watch this one, no matter the clues and stuff because I hate, ABSOLUTELY hate Jack/Kate episodes, they make me want to scratch out my eyeballs, get trough the hole to my brain and rip it out piece by gooey piece. But I still need to know what happened, so I'll always be grateful to Pajiba for these excellent reviews that don't make suffer trough the whole episode but just read and enjoy and skip over the infuriating Jack/Kate parts..kisses&hugs for Daniel for making my life that much berable

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