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This was supposed to be a Halloween Horror Heroine guide, but it’s been crafted into a fusion that includes kick-ass chicks of the sci-fi and comic genres for a few reasons: 1) These genres are incestuous; many films, like Terminator (a film that actually scared the metallic liquid out of me upon its first viewing), are hybrids of horror, action, and sci-fi genres and sub-genres; 2) chicks in horror movies are generally portrayed as weak-willed, simpering damsels who can’t do much but unwittingly impale themselves; and 3) in rare cases where females are allowed to kick some horror keister, their characters are largely one-dimensional Tn’A jigglers. Consequently, most lead female characters in horror flicks don’t qualify for the “Ass-Kicking” heroine title, so heroines have been borrowed from the action/sci-fi realm. You got a problem with it? Feel free to voice your choices in the comments below.

buffy4sm.jpgBuffy Summers, “Buffy the Vampire Slayer.”

“People to see, demons to kill.” This seemingly diminutive blonde was anything but passive when faced with her destiny as a warrior against the forces of evil. Buffy Summers just wanted to be an ordinary teenage girl; alas, she was destined to be the Slayer, plucked away from her ordinary life and placed into extraordinary circumstances. Buffy was bestowed with the supernatural ability and strength to defend against the evil that rises up from beneath her sleepy town. Despite the inconveniences to her social life, Buffy’s role as secret warrior against hell’s creatures was bolstered by her bravery and resourcefulness in obliterating vampires into puffs of dust. Buffy acknowledged that evil does and will always exist, regardless of one’s particular religious beliefs, and that it must be confronted and its current manifestations defeated — it must be guarded against with vigilance because, “There’s always more.” While Buffy couldn’t avoid her role as a Slayer, she did make some admirable choices on exactly how to fulfill her role. She fights evil over and over again, and although she might have complained about her lack of professional autonomy, she quickly came to terms with her status as the chosen one. Even when Buffy tired of following the edicts of the Watcher’s Council, she persevered as a renegade Slayer. Buffy’s professionalism, individualism, and almost gratuitous use of violence seemed to suggest a masculine character, and even her name belied convenient stereotype. Indeed, this kick-ass heroine always did the right thing, no matter how it affected her plans for the high school prom.

sarahconnor5.jpgSarah Connor, The Terminator, T2: Judgment Day.

“Come on. Do I look like the mother of the future?” When we first met Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton), she was an ordinary person — a waitress who jokingly flirted with her roommate’s boyfriend, who was stood up by her date, and who decided to head out alone one evening. By the end of the evening, she learned that she was the mother of John Connor, leader of the resistance against a future war against the machines. Naturally, she obtained this information from Kyle Reese, a soldier who volunteered to travel back and time to help save her from the Terminator’s mission. In the first Terminator, Sarah transformed from potential victim to budding warrior, and — thanks to the ironical time-travelling mechanisms of Skynet — conceived the leader of the future. In Terminator II: Judgment Day, we revisit Sarah Connor as an angry, institutionalized woman who, due to her seemingly delusional rants about the impending machines, had been kept away from her son. In preparation for the coming war, Sarah passed her cell-bound years by training herself into a rock-hard mercenary soldier, and in doing so, she almost lost her femininity by becoming a killing machine. At the last moment, however, she was unable to kill Skynet’s creator, Miles Dyson, when she spotted a picture of his family. This so-called failure saved her humanity and reminded us of the old Sarah Connor, who learned to pull the trigger when it really mattered and let the bad guys off themselves.

aliens3sm.jpgEllen Ripley, Aliens.

“Get away from her, you bitch!” Like Sarah Connor, Ellen Ripley undergoes a personality transformation between films to help the storyline forge into sequels. In Alien, director Ridley Scott presented us with a tough yet feminine woman who, when not fighting for her life, basically hung out in her tank top and panties. In the first film, Ripley was tougher, braver and more resourceful than her shipmates. At this point, however, she was a mere ensemble player that somehow survived the first film by default. However, when she finally destroyed the alien who slaughtered her comrades, she never wept for those who fell; instead, she simply filed an incident report in the ship’s logs. In the second film, director James Cameron took over and, despite another ensemble cast, added several layers of complexity to Ripley’s character. In short, Cameron permitted Ripley to be a woman and still totally kick ass. When Ripley first awoke from her 50-year cryogenic sleep, she found herself troubled by nightmares and post-traumatic depression. She was vulnerable and didn’t deal so well with what happened to her in the first film. Despite Ripley’s desire to finally become a mother to her natural daughter, too many years had passed and her daughter was no longer alive. She channeled that maternal instinct by traveling with Marines to protect the human colonists of another planet from the aliens.

Here, Ripley showed her femininity in a different way than most action heroines do. Rather than taking the easier route by sexualizing Ripley, having her hop into bed with one of the male crew members, and pronouncing her a bona fide female action hero, Ripley drew her femininity from her maternal nature. After rescuing a child named Newt, the lone survivor, she became an adopted mother of sorts to the child. Through nightmares, tears, and depression, Ripley’s emotions drove her actions, and this made her fear, rage, and determination so much more believable than, say, the emotions of Schwarzenegger characters (not that Arnold didn’t kick ass, but not for a moment would we believe that Arnold is scared out of his mind while slaughtering the entirety of El Presidente’s private army in Commando). After most of the cocky Marines have fallen in combat, when Newt ends up in the clutches of the alien Queen, Ripley vanquishes the beast in hand-to-hand combat. It is a testament to Weaver’s portrayal of Ripley that while she kicks some alien Queen ass, we are perfectly aware how scared shitless she really is, and this grounds her character. At the end of Aliens, Ripley’s human qualities provide her with the determination to transcend herself as an iconic female superhuman.

minamurray1sm.jpgWilhelmina Murray, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

“Can London survive this?” Mina Murray-Harker is best known to film audiences as the damsel in distress in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. In the novel, Mina outlasts Dracula and sticks with her uber-wimpy husband, Jonathan Harker, for reasons unimaginable. Fortunately, Alan Moore rewrote Mina’s story as part of the comic series, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, which was later made into a horrid film of which we only mention in passing for its abrupt departure from the comic version. In the comic book, Mina didn’t need no stinkin’ vampire powers, and she didn’t need Jonathan either, so she divorced his sorry ass. Later, she was asked to recruit a group of men to serve London as special agents. Mina reflected the Victorian tenor that certain weapons are barbaric (e.g., Captain Nemo’s harpoon gun), and she didn’t kick-ass in the physical sense by employing guns, swords, or kung-fu moves. Still, she was quite respected by the group of agents that she led, and a certain amount of her razor-tongued, no-nonsense method of leadership could be attributed to the horrors that she suffered at the hands of Dracula. Hell, even Mr. Hyde respected Mina and totally laid the smackdown on the Invisible Man when he dared to lay an unkind hand on her. Under Mina’s leadership, the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen saved London from destruction stemming from atrocities such as the illegal weapons trade and martian invasions. Also, unlike the film adaptation, Mina Murray doesn’t have to literally kick ass to, well, kick some serious ass.

cherry1sm.jpgCherry Darling Planet Terror.

“Go go, not cry cry.”The problem with goals is that they become the thing you talk about instead of the thing you do. Such was the attitude of Rose McGowan’s hyperbolic, hard-luck go-go dancer who quit the trade and set off into the night to become the world’s least funny stand-up comedian. When she reconnected with her estranged ex-boyfriend, El Wray (Freddy Rodríguez), their reconciliation is thrown off track when a zombie chews off one of Cherry’s legs. Her reaction: “Look at me! I was gonna be a stand-up comedian! Who’s gonna laugh now?” Driven by circumstance to defeat the zombie hordes, Cherry realized her unlikely destiny as humanity’s salvation. It didn’t hurt that El Wray crafted a machine gun prosthetic in place of her leg so she could fire off several rounds by merely aiming and kicking. This movie may not have been a box-office success, but the image of Cherry’s lethal-legged silhouette will endure.

Agent Bedhead (a.k.a. “Kimberly”) lives in Tulsa, Oklahoma. She can be found kicking the occasional ass over at agentbedhead.com.


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Comments

Speaking of Grindhouse movies, I just saw "Death Proof", and there's a league of ass-kicking femme fatales worth mentioning.

Posted by: Starbuck at October 31, 2007 2:55 PM

The pic on the home page is not working as a link tot his, just the "Read the Review" link

Posted by: Brian at October 31, 2007 3:03 PM

I would suggest:

1. The ORIGINAL Buffy (whatsherface), there was something not right about Gellar passing herself as a supposedly former cheerleader. (Gellar made the part her own but she wasn't no former cheerleader)

2.Jamie Lee Curtis on Halloweens 1 and 2, girlfriend was a screamer but she took care of bidness.

3.That doctor chick from the first Blade, she got to kick some Vampire butt and was smart to boot.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 31, 2007 3:03 PM

I'd include Sarah from The Descent. Even if you subscribe to the theory that the story we're watching is in her head, she's still surviving the horror her mind has created. Either way though, she quickly learns the rules of her freaked out situation and adapts to keep from getting killed...even after swimming in a pool of stagnant blood. Badass.

I know she's not as famous or iconic as the others on this list, but give her a few years.

Posted by: VeryKerry at October 31, 2007 3:04 PM

Barbado Slim: There's an episode of Buffy with SMG called "Witch," that you might want to check out.

Posted by: Constance at October 31, 2007 3:10 PM

Um,

WHERE'S STARBUCK?

President Roslin also has some stones.

Other's noteable by their absence

Faith.

Barbara Gordon, even being crippled didn't stop this lady kicking crime's ass.

Kitty Pryde

Lois Griffin

Posted by: PyD at October 31, 2007 3:10 PM

... Zoe?

"Have you ever been with a warrior woman?"

Posted by: twig at October 31, 2007 3:12 PM

Good list, but I was hoping for more!

-Uma Thurman in Kill Bill?
-Jennifer Garner in Alias?
-Kate Beckinsale in Underworld?... whatever, I liked it
-Geena Davis in The Long Kiss Goodnight?

Just a few that came to mind.

Posted by: David at October 31, 2007 3:13 PM

Its funny that despite him being a top shelf jack ass James Cameron has managed to provide two of the ladies included here. I've always found that duality in him interesting even though I loathe him.

Kudos on the Buffy love...though I will admit that in later seasons I began to despise SMG and the snivelling sense of self involvement that surrounded the character. I think it's a sign though of Joss moving away and leaving hacks to take care of his baby.

I don't understand the haters of the Grindhouse...It was fun and light and gloriously cheesy. I remember the Dude and I being the only male/female couple in the theatre and not getting it then either.

Posted by: Ms. Parker at October 31, 2007 3:13 PM

VeryKerry>> I have not heard that theory before. Interesting, although much less satisfying to me. I thought the most unsettling part of her transformation was her being forced to slaughter the mother and child pair of creatures. That is some serious psychological fucked-up-ed-ness. Cool movie.

Posted by: Darth Corleone at October 31, 2007 3:14 PM

No River Tam = Fail

Posted by: jon29 at October 31, 2007 3:15 PM

I second a vote for Sydney Bristow in Alias. Jennifer Garner will always be awesome just for her role in Alias.

Posted by: Chesnut at October 31, 2007 3:30 PM

Good suggestions so far. I too was hoping for a longer list, and after reading the comments I have to say I am really surprised at how many badass women there are in pop culture.

To make sure the zombie fightin' females are represented here, I'll add:

Alice from Resident Evil
Ana (Sarah Polley) from 2004 Dawn of the Dead

Posted by: Alabamapink at October 31, 2007 3:31 PM

You can laugh if you want, but my number one bad-ass has been and always will be Princess Leia. When I was a little girl she was the greatest role-model I could have asked for. Powerful, unafraid to fight, willing to lead and unwilling to compromise her ideals...a complete and total badass. Even when Lucas felt the need to take the one magnificent female character in his universe and stick her in a gold bikini to be a slave-girl for a sexually aggressive slug monster, Leia had an agency that is sorely lacking from most female characters. She didn't wait for her man to come and save her, she strangled the shit out of Jabba and effected her own rescue.

I love Leia and I always will. So, she's my Ass-Kicking Heroine of choice.

Posted by: elyssadc at October 31, 2007 3:32 PM

Darth Corleone: the theory goes either that the whole story is in Sarah's mind during her coma or that she did go caving, yet hallucinated the crawlers and killed her friends herself. I'm with you on that read on things being less satisfying. I think the movie is strong enough to take the events at face value and still be emotionally complex without needing to psychoanalyze it up.

Posted by: VeryKerry at October 31, 2007 3:32 PM

Ripley is my all-time favorite movie hero/heroine.

Posted by: James S at October 31, 2007 3:36 PM

Add my vote for Zoe. And non Halle Berry Catwoman.

Also: Max from Dark Angel, before Jessica Alba sold out the the evils of Hollywood (or, you know, started getting cast) she played one of the best Action Girls on the block.

And now I have to go and dust off my Season 2 DVDs.

Posted by: Alex the Odd at October 31, 2007 3:37 PM

elyssadc: I salute you, can't believe I forgot Leia, my geek credentials should be revoked.

Royalty, able to rock the slave costume AND weapons trained, as close to a goddess as you can get.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 31, 2007 3:38 PM

Constance: thanks! I'll check it out

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 31, 2007 3:41 PM

Kate Beckinsale in Underworld?... whatever, I liked it

Selene was totally weak. A umpteen-hundreds year old assassin beholden to a ponce in a bad suit? Allowing her entire team to get killed?

Weak.

Posted by: twig at October 31, 2007 3:44 PM

I know that some of the Pajiba crew is staunchly anti-LOTR (what's up with that??) but come on: Eowyn, in Return of the King? Bad. Ass.

Second here for River Tam!

Posted by: boo at October 31, 2007 3:45 PM

Fun list! Buffy will forever be one of the most accessible characters in tv history...even with her superpowers I could completely relate to her when I was in college. I agree with everyone's additions, here's who I would have added:

*Sydney Bristow
*Starbuck
*Cordelia Chase (so redeemable and likeable in Angel)
*Zoe Washburne
*George Lass (though her character in Dead Like Me didn't necessarily kick ass in the physical sense, her bitchy sense of humor could beat down almost any villain)
*Zoe Bell in Death Proof

Posted by: Julie at October 31, 2007 3:53 PM

The Buffyverse was full of kick ass heroines - in addition to Buffy, there was Faith, Anya, Cordelia and Gwen, just to name a few. Even the baddies rocked - Darla, Glory and Drusilla certainly weren't taking any shit from anyone.

Also, no love for Veronica Mars? A bit outside the genre, but c'mon!

Posted by: bartap at October 31, 2007 3:58 PM

Third for River Tam!

And I much prefer SMG as Buffy than Kristy Swanson. Kristy di the former cheerleader thing a little too well...to the point that I couldn't believe her as being an ass-kicking Slayer.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at October 31, 2007 4:06 PM

What about Marion Ravenwood from Raiders of The Lost Ark??? She could fight, shoot and drink 300-lb men under the table. She was Indy's equal at every step. Love her.

Posted by: Kolby at October 31, 2007 4:07 PM

And who can forget Samus Aran? Or was that a little too obscure?

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at October 31, 2007 4:10 PM

Oooh, Kolby, good one. I want to go to happy hour with Marian Ravenwood.

Posted by: Julie at October 31, 2007 4:11 PM

elyssadc, BarbadoSlim: Count me way in on the Princess Leia love. I was 9 the summer "Star Wars" came out, 12 for ESB, 15 for ROTJ: three turning-point ages. I do believe Leia made me who I am today. She was smart and witty, able to love but not a simpering idiot, tough but caring, beautiful but not artificially so, intelligent and yet physical. She's it, baby.

Posted by: Paris at October 31, 2007 4:16 PM

Samus Aran circa Prime and not one damn step further.

Posted by: twig at October 31, 2007 4:17 PM

What? No love for La Femme Nikita?

Posted by: Henry at October 31, 2007 4:24 PM

I would definitely include Neeve Campbell's character, Sydney, from the "Scream" movies. Also what about Miho or Gail from "Sin City". Though, is it any wonder I love this site with all of the Buffy love floating around on here? I completely agree with Shadows. I loved the movie for all it's camp, but Christy Swanson was too shallow as Buffy. SMG did a much better job at giving Buffy the depth that allows us to laugh, cry, and feel with her.

Posted by: Lauren at October 31, 2007 4:29 PM

I can't believe I'm the first to give a yell out to Aeryn Sun!

Posted by: Roni at October 31, 2007 4:32 PM

Bslim: Yay! You'll love it. Very tongue-in-cheek cheerleader-y!

Posted by: Constance at October 31, 2007 4:38 PM

Fourth for River Tam!

That reveal when the door opens & she's sliced up all the Reavers - damn. Just .... damn!

And Buffy, of course.

'But... you're just a girl!'
'That's what I keep saying....'

Posted by: tarn at October 31, 2007 5:03 PM

A second for "That doctor chick from the first Blade" - she was cool, she actually had a personality. Faves: when she beat the crap outta that guy in the hole with a thigh bone. And she had a way with a pump-action shotgun.

Ditto on Leia and Marian. As long as we're kickin' it old school, how about Christie Love? I have never actually seen it, but my understanding is, she kinda rocked.

I don't know if she counts as a heroine, per se, but I always liked Tyne Daley in that Dirty Harry movie. Yeah, she dies in the end, but she earned his respect. Few people could do that.

Posted by: LL at October 31, 2007 5:11 PM

Seconding the original Buffy as well as adding in Lori Baxter from the underappreciated Big Wolf on Campus (Yea...the title is a little lame, but the show was fantastic)

Posted by: Renee at October 31, 2007 5:14 PM

What about Sydney Bristow?!?!?!

Buffy is on TV and so is Sydney...she deserves and honorable mention.

Posted by: Wanda at October 31, 2007 5:16 PM

I agree with a couple above posters.

I would have liked to see Sarah from The Descent, she was an ass kicker in totally different, chilling way.

I'm also surprised at the lack of love for The Bride in Kill Bill. She's kinda like the definition of ass-kicking female and she also does it in a way similar to Ellen Ripley, it's about her daughter, not about her man.

Other than that, well done.

Posted by: citizen_cris at October 31, 2007 5:20 PM

Frances McDormand's character in Fargo. Or Ed from Raising Arizona

The Coen brothers know how to write really good positive female roles.

Posted by: Tanner at October 31, 2007 5:24 PM

As much affection as I feel for River Tam, I have to say the character doesn't really meet the criteria. Yeah, she sure could kick ass, and beautifully. (After seven years of watching Whedon's fabulous girlfight scenes in BTVS, I was still blown away by Summer Glau's beautiful movements, beautifully captured, in Firefly/Serenity.
However, River was far too mentally woo-woo for most of her story arc to qualify as a kick-ass heroine. She only finally got her poor head together at the very end of Serenity--and I deeply regret that we never got to see more of Sane River.

Posted by: Jerce at October 31, 2007 5:27 PM

I'm actually surprised that most of the women in the Kill Bill movies were left out. Not to mention the women of Death Proof. And how can there even be a list of bad ass babes that doesn't include River Tam.
Its like having a list of top action heroes that doesn't include Steve McQueen or Clint Eastwood- oh wait EW did that.

Also, no Trinity? I know the two sequels sucked but Trinity was an awesome bad ass. I also agree with those who say Jamie Lee Curtis also the Captain from Pitch Black Miho from Sin City Of course Princess Leia and Elasta-Girl from the Incredibles.

It just seems like the Guides to Whats goood for you are usually a lot longer than this.

Posted by: cmoody at October 31, 2007 5:36 PM

Definitely loving the mentions of Jennifer Garner, Geena ("die screaming motherfucker") Davis, La Femme Nikita (YEAH!!! French version only, of course!) and especially Princess Leia - the ultimate role model for all the reasons mentioned above.

If you wanna go back farther - didn't Maureen O'hara play a female pirate w/ Errol Flynn?

Posted by: Stella at October 31, 2007 5:41 PM

I can't believe I forgot about Trinity!

That scene from the first Matrix movie blew me and my roommate's minds! It was one of those (Do you remember where you were when? moments)....

Posted by: Stella at October 31, 2007 5:46 PM

Does Scully count?

Posted by: Stella at October 31, 2007 5:48 PM

This list is rubbish.The notable exclusion of Uma Thurman's "Bride" & so many others,is just plain shameful.The only part i liked (aside from the constant explosions) was cherry darling,but to call her ass-kicking-man the character was hardly developed well,and you knew after halfway the director just went "fuck that,let's screw a bloody giant gun up her leg-that'll be cool".Likewise,Sarah Connor held herself up with a gun all the time-& at one point she went on a one-person crusade trying to look like a hero,& of course she looked like a complet idiot rightafter.I agree with Buffy,but this list seems like whoever wrote it thought "urm,i love buffy,now let's do a list where I can justifiably sneak her in".

Such a poor list.

Posted by: daniel at October 31, 2007 6:00 PM

i always loved marion (karen allen) from Raiders of The Lost Ark-could drink the guys under the table, smart, stubborn, a bit of a spikey wise-ass girl who kicked butt when needed. i thought it was great that they didn't magically give her super strength or total coolness in the face of danger-you can see she's scared but she screws up her courage anyway and fights her corner.the fact that they sold out the whole concept of a strong heroine for spielberg's bimboid wife kate capshaw in Temple of Doom always pissed me off no end.

Posted by: cheast at October 31, 2007 6:00 PM

i always loved marion (karen allen) from Raiders of The Lost Ark-could drink the guys under the table, smart, stubborn, a bit of a spikey wise-ass girl who kicked butt when needed. i thought it was great that they didn't magically give her super strength or total coolness in the face of danger-you can see she's scared but she screws up her courage anyway and fights her corner.the fact that they sold out the whole concept of a strong heroine for spielberg's bimboid wife kate capshaw in Temple of Doom always pissed me off no end.

Posted by: cheast at October 31, 2007 6:00 PM

Geena ("die screaming motherfucker") Davis -- they should have made three Charlie Baltimore movies, right off the bat! She'd be an action goddess, now.

The Milla Jovovich trinity: Leeloo, Alice, and UltraViolet -- not to mention Joan of Arc. Come on.

Claudia Black's Aeryn Sun. Insane awesomeness.

And yes -- Scully counts.

Posted by: Meander at October 31, 2007 6:06 PM

I second the earlier suggestion of Scully.

Posted by: Bex at October 31, 2007 6:07 PM

That scene from the first Matrix movie blew me and my roommate's minds! It was one of those (Do you remember where you were when? moments)....

Posted by: Stella at October 31, 2007 5:46 PM

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I know wattcha mean, that first time she rises up in mid-air like a cobra AWE SOME.

Let me give an old school shout out to Shirley McLane in Two Mules for Sister Sara

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 31, 2007 6:07 PM

Can we please also give a shout out to Angela Bassett's character in Strange Days?

Posted by: Stella at October 31, 2007 6:10 PM

I am also underwhelmed by the scant list. And seriously, no Xena? WTF?

Posted by: Gudrun at October 31, 2007 6:14 PM

Geena ("die screaming motherfucker") Davis -- they should have made three Charlie Baltimore movies, right off the bat! She'd be an action goddess, now.

YES YES YES!!! I totally forget about that movie all the time and I don't know why. It's so f-ing awesome! The scene on the waterwheel is one of my favorite action-movie sequences of all time. Well done, Meander.

Posted by: elyssadc at October 31, 2007 6:14 PM

I was gonna say LeeLoo from The Fifth Element (her amazing fight scene on board the ship, intercut with the Diva's opera performance) but she's more or less "rescued" by Bruce Willis, so I'm not sure it counts.

I'm glad someone mentioned Trinity. Does Angelina Jolie's Lara Croft count?

Posted by: Fury at October 31, 2007 6:16 PM

La Femme Nikita, anyone? Well, I know that's so obvious a choice, but considering that movie, as well as its American remake, was the first to incite my deep love for the ass kickin heroine back in high school, it needs a mention. And also, Alabama Whorley from True Romance was undeniably brutal and feminine all at the same time.

Posted by: jason at October 31, 2007 6:20 PM

Angela Bassett in Strange Days? DONE !

Also this list would not be complete without Miss Lindsay Wagner and Linda Carter for playing two characters that kicked major ASS while being feminine stylish, WITHOUT giving out major attitude and using surliness as a substitute for characterization.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 31, 2007 6:23 PM

Oh My GOD I can't believe I forgot Charlie. The Long Kiss Goodnight is only one of my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE CHRISTMAS MOVIES OF ALL TIME.

Posted by: cmoody at October 31, 2007 6:26 PM

Fucking A, jason!

Alabama's my girl. Wreaking havoc with a corkscrew. And killer white trash fashions.

Posted by: Alabamapink at October 31, 2007 6:29 PM

I can't believe how short this guide was considering how many amazing ass kicking heroines there are.
Personally I think Princess Leia should have been number one or at the very least on the list.
I still very much agree with the women in this guide but it still seemed to be lacking.

Posted by: REW at October 31, 2007 6:30 PM

I can't believe how short this guide was considering how many amazing ass kicking heroines there are.
Personally I think Princess Leia should have been number one or at the very least on the list.
I still very much agree with the women in this guide but it still seemed to be lacking.

Posted by: REW at October 31, 2007 6:30 PM

Can we please also give a shout out to Angela Bassett's character in Strange Days?

Ok, you win. Mace was the ultimate badass.

I also think O-ren was more of a badass than the Bride. The Bride had romance issues - O-ren was a badass entirely for herself.

Posted by: twig at October 31, 2007 6:33 PM

As this was supposed to be a post about heroines in horror/sci-fi/fantasy genre, I think there are a lot of very qualified female heroines. However, what many commenters forget is that this was not intended to be a post about female heroins period, but kick ass chicks in horror/sci-fi/fantansy. That is why notables such as Uma Thurman, Trinity, and others were probably left out. My favorite are:

1) Aeryn Sun (not only good looking, but would kill you without blinking, and saved cryton's ass more times than I can count).

2) If you are going anywhere near comic books, you can't forget WonderWoman...I mean, it's freaking WONDERWOMAN!

3) You have to throw in Jaime Lee Curtis in there, I mean she survived again and again against Michael.

4) and Dark Angel, what a bad ass.

Posted by: Nico at October 31, 2007 6:41 PM

But characters like the Bride and Trinity fall squarely within that genre as does Princess Leia who was also left off the list. As do Abby, Kim and Zoe from Death Proof.

The list itself is whats lacking. I get that every badass female is not going to show up, but the list only seems to be there to justify Buffy- which word- Buffy kicked ass, but she was no Trinity.

Posted by: cmoody at October 31, 2007 6:56 PM

Of course, I would have to be the first to say: no Xena? sigh

Also, I hate Buffy. Or mybe it's just SMG. I dunno.

Posted by: Gabs at October 31, 2007 7:01 PM

Leaving Zoe off the list is a crime; I can take or leave River, but Zoe is tops.

And a second for Eowyn, not least because she was played by the luminous Miranda Otto. "I am no man!"

Wash, out.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at October 31, 2007 7:15 PM

Leia: Check
Trinity: Check, but caveat that she got totally overshadowed most of the plot by the dudes.
Aeryn Sunn: O double, nay, Triple Check.
Charlie: Check.

The Bride: Not so check. Fun movies, she whupped a lot of ass, but all the characters were so overwrought and cheesy I just can't think of them as 'characters' in any meaningful sense. Caricatures, not Characters. Sadly, a fatal flaw for a list like this.

Other than that, I got nothin' to add that hasn't been added. (Zoe Bell: Check. Sorry, forgot one!)

Posted by: Spike at October 31, 2007 7:25 PM

The problem with Trinity was the same as with Princess Amidala (Leia's Mom), bad ass butt-kickers in their respective first films and then inexplicably they went all Massengill after they got it on with their boyfriends.

(Amidala was de-fanged so radically that I will NOT recognize her for this list)

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 31, 2007 7:36 PM

Is this the shortest guide in Pajiba history? The feminist inside of me is screeching.

Buffy - great heroine, my number one. I still miss Buffy and co!!!.

I also vote for Jennifer Garner in Alias - she did some awesome butt-kicking. She was also intelligent and somewhat balanced (which some other female butt-kickers don't seem to be, being more on the crazy-out-of-control-mother-f#@$ker breed).

I also vote for the Bride in Kill Bill - such great fight choreography in that movie.

My final vote, which I'm sure will be majorly scoffed at, is the three girls from Charlies Angels movies (not the TV show; they used guns). I always loved the idea of how three somewhat prissy/pretty actresses managed to transform their bodies (training 8 hours a day etc) into fighting machines (umm, of course with the help of ropes/pulleys/stuntpeople etc!!). Anyway, if I'm feeling in the need of cheering up, grrl-power style, this movie does it for me!!!

Agent Bedhead, I vote for an extension of your list - it is way way too short compared to all other Pajiba guides - do you not really care about the heroines? We do!!!

Posted by: JJ McClay at October 31, 2007 8:01 PM

Aeryn Sun. That is all.

Posted by: Jerelyn at October 31, 2007 8:04 PM

animated version- Aeon Flux (never saw Charlize Theron's live action version, so no comment on that incarnation).

Posted by: osmate77 at October 31, 2007 8:24 PM

I agree that this list, while good, is seriously truncated, and furthermore that leaving Princess Leia out was a crime.

I adored her ability to kick ass in the first two SW movies, but her shining moment for me was in RotJ when she and Han reverse the "I love you"/I know" moment from ESB. While Lucas has always had the subtlety of an Acme anvil, that moment says something to me about equality and how, yeah that reassurance from him was nice, but she didn't need it because she had the self-confidence to know he loved her.

Also, while Trinity was screwed over by the plots of the second and third movies (much like everyone else, including the fans), there's no denying that she kicked some serious ass in the first one.

And come on, where's Xena? Not only did she kick ass and take names, but half the time she did it was a grin and a wink to the audience qas if to say "I know this is cheese, but isn't it fun?!" and the other half the time, she had to battle her own darker nature.

Posted by: telesilla at October 31, 2007 8:48 PM

Hey, VerryKerry, I haven't seen Descent yet! Booooo!

Posted by: tinmo at October 31, 2007 9:10 PM

Then as long as we are including Xena we can't leave out Gabrielle, she went from naif to serious ass-kicker by the end there. Special mention to Callisto, homegirl who was unapologetic about being a murdering, plundering military commander and uber-cunt.

She was also hot.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 31, 2007 9:11 PM

aww this is a very disappointing and dare i say half assed Guide considering that so many Pajibans are into action, sci fi, horror and comics and loove our ass kicking heroines (as evidenced by the comments!)
Maybe another writer could add a part two?...

Posted by: sarsparilla at October 31, 2007 9:13 PM

crazy-out-of-control-mother-f#@$ker breed

Dammit McClay! Use real cursewords! Men died for your right to curse on the internet. (Did you know your handle is an ironic action movie name? Or possibly an athlete's name from the as-yet-unmade Jerry Maguire sequel?)

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at October 31, 2007 9:17 PM

I want to add Jennifer Connelly from Phenomena, in which she is a teenager brave enough to hunt down a serial killer, and has some pretty handy insect friends at her beck and call. :)
Despite the scary, that film made me want to immediately visit Switzerland. Great cinematography.

I second Jamie Lee Curtis! She did indeed take care of *bidness*! :)

Posted by: Loob at October 31, 2007 9:46 PM

My suggestion is you stop using so many RUN ON SENTENCES and break that crap up.
And Buffy, really? She always did the right thing? Like screwing a vampire (the enemy, if I am correct)? Hmm. I guess we have different versions of the right thing.
Sarsparilla, I agree with you. There's 5 women on this list- in the ENTIRE realm of comics, television, and movies. How sad. How MISOGYNISTIC. Especially considering this is written by a woman. Why bother featuring links to Feministing and then post this "Guide"?

Posted by: Kim at October 31, 2007 10:13 PM

How MISOGYNISTIC. Especially considering this is written by a woman. Why bother featuring links to Feministing and then post this "Guide"?

Posted by: Kim at October 31, 2007 10:13 PM

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Wow, that time of the month eh?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 31, 2007 10:26 PM

Sydney frickin' Bristow!!!

That is all.

Posted by: Melody at October 31, 2007 10:31 PM

Yeah, I agree with Gudrun. All this talk of kick-ass heroines, and nary a mention of Xena? Fuck that.

Posted by: Kris at October 31, 2007 10:31 PM

18th for River! (I lost count)

But I would totally put all of Old Town on that list. They were nuts.

Posted by: joe at October 31, 2007 10:37 PM

It's nice to see this post, and yet this phrase really bothers me:

"tough yet feminine woman"

By referring to her as "tough YET feminine," you're excluding toughness from being an essentially female quality, which makes me cringe. And I hope to see future installments of this exploring the wide range of characters not featured here.

I can't believe nobody's mentioned Number Six, especially since this comes shortly after a Battlestar Galactica post. Come on! Six kicks ass. She's probably currently my favorite female character.

Posted by: paquito at October 31, 2007 10:40 PM

By referring to her as "tough YET feminine," you're excluding toughness from being an essentially female quality, which makes me cringe. And I hope to see future installments of this exploring the wide range of characters not featured here.

Posted by: paquito at October 31, 2007 10:40 PM

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I respectfully disagree, when it's qualified like that at least for ME, it means: not BUTCH, know what I mean? Think Angelina Jolie/Milla or Kate Beckingsdale hell, even Lucy Lawless as Xena or as a Cylon (both gender loose characters) as opposed to any character every played by Michelle Rodriguez.
The same general view is applied to male actors, think, would you want someone like Nathan Lane as James Bond instead of Craig or Andy Dick as the Transporter. It's being considered a "man's man."

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 31, 2007 11:10 PM

I would have traded Buffy for Agent 355. Or Zoe, or Sarah Kerrigan, or... I just really don't like Buffy.

Posted by: Jesse at October 31, 2007 11:18 PM

This is the WORST LIST EVER! I think Pajiba put more effort into creating that list of "Character Actors You See All The Time But Don't Know Their Names." Could you have spent any less time on that list?



First of all - there's no point in making this list because obviously, based on the comments, there are TONS of kick-ass female characters, particularly in sci-fi where the audience is more apt to "suspending belief" so they might enjoy a strong female character.

Second, if you're going to start the list, FINISH IT! Seriously? You could only come up with FIVE characters? Given the volume of options there should be at least 10.

And Xev Bellringer from Lexx should be on it too. She could be #10 and a half.

Posted by: Racheee at October 31, 2007 11:31 PM

I generally agree with everyone who's said this guide was a little short. That said...

1)Sydney Bristow - Yeah, she kicked ass, but she was also quite obviously a complicated woman with real feelings that maybe sometimes got in the way of her work. Sydney was my heroine, and she helped through most of high school and the beginning of college.

2)Any of the Firefly women - I know River has been mentioned a lot in the comments, but what about Zoe? Kaylee? Inara? All ass-kicking women in their own right.

3)I am going to sound like a huge nerd for a minute here, but we ARE talking about sci-fi heroines, and I would like to mention the lovely Samantha Carter of Stargate SG-1. Her brilliant intelligence quite often outshined the men on her team and she could physically kick some ass as well. She's worth noting, as well as Vala Mal Doran (played by Claudia Black), who was a smart, sassy woman (holy shit, did I really just use the word sassy?) not afraid to get a little dirty.

4)I'm also surpised Scully wasn't mentioned in this guide. For shame!

Posted by: *penny* at October 31, 2007 11:57 PM

if someone hasn't said this already... isn't it frustrating that female ass-kicking superheroines are limited to science fiction? I'd like to see a michelle obama biopic where she kicks the snot out of [insert pansy man here]. but that could just be me.

Posted by: shyestviolet at November 1, 2007 12:04 AM

Not sure if this qualifies, but I really liked Michelle Yeoh's character in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. She may have been serene, but that woman could kick ass.

Posted by: Ali at November 1, 2007 12:12 AM

Mu husband considers Angela Basset in Strange Days THE badass woman.

I'd have to go with Zoe over River, what with River being crazy the whole time until the end. "Ever been with a warrior woman?"

Posted by: Stacy at November 1, 2007 12:40 AM

There has been one glaring omission from this list and I know you will all agree with me on it: Barbarella. Who else could have defeated Duran Duran's pleasure piano/organ by orgasming so strongly as to destroy the thing? This movie helped women's lib in ways in which the world is still trying to comprehend. Not including a woman who saved the entire universe from the evil clutches of Duran Duran is a travesty and I for one will not take this sitting down.

Posted by: iknowkungfu at November 1, 2007 12:43 AM

I liked Geena Davis in Long Kiss Goodnight. Does that count? Oh, and the gals of Crouching Tiger.

Posted by: tony at November 1, 2007 4:05 AM

Claudia Black's Aeryn Sun and Angela Bassett's Mace both deserve listing because of their insane coolness. As do Milla Jovovich's Alice and Leeloo, Geena Davis's Charlie Baltimore and Captain Morgan, Eliza Dushku's Faith, Gina Torres's Zöe, Zoe Bell's Zoe, Carrie Fisher's Leia, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio 's Lindsey Brigman, Sybil Danning's Space Valkyrie, Sharon Stone's Ellen, Bridgette Lin's Asia the Invincible, Maggie Cheung's Thief Catcher, Michelle Yeoh's Invisible Woman, Anita Mui's Wonder Woman, and way way more...

Posted by: Adam C at November 1, 2007 5:08 AM

Count me in with the people clamouring for recognition of Mace in Strange Days.

Posted by: Dill The Devil at November 1, 2007 6:33 AM

Then as long as we are including Xena we can't leave out Gabrielle, she went from naif to serious ass-kicker by the end there. Special mention to Callisto, homegirl who was unapologetic about being a murdering, plundering military commander and uber-cunt.

She was also hot.

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Seconded, Barbado. Oh, and I also want to add my love to Mace in Strange Days...when she keeps having to save the male lead's ass from getting beat up. That always cracks me up. Talk about reversing the stereotypes.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at November 1, 2007 9:39 AM

Hell to the yeah for Aeryn, major props to Zoe, and giant thumbs up for President Laura "Make no mistake, if I have to shove that baby out an airlock, I will" Roslyn!

Posted by: Ryan at November 1, 2007 9:40 AM

Good list except for Cherry Darling. That just reads like you ran out of choices. I second Marion Ravenwood, Leia, River Tam, Zoe, and The Bride. Also Starbuck and President Roslyn from BSG, and Willow from Buffy. But if you are going into comics, you cannot leave out Snow White from "Fables". Read the books, the girl is badass with a capital b.

Posted by: Rob at November 1, 2007 9:58 AM

Thank you for pointing out one of the most important characteristics of Ripley, the greatest action hero of them all: her capacity to feel fear. It is this which instantly makes her struggles both more realistic and -- and this is key -- braver. There is no such thing as courage without fear.

I have to agree with everyone about the list being too short, though. A lot of people mentioned personal favorites, but I think we all have to agree that Leia, Xena, and Scully are towering icons of sci-fi/fantasy/horror that should have been recognized.

Posted by: Todd at November 1, 2007 10:20 AM

Well slap me twice and call me muffin, I can't believe I also forgot the women of CTHD. I only saw that movie 5 times in the theater.
Michelle Yeoh
Zang Ziyz
"Jade Fox"

wow.

Posted by: Stella at November 1, 2007 10:52 AM

could not agree more with all of you, especially sarsparilla.

i too am sorely disappointed in this list (length, thought, seemingly lack of effort). helloooo... any of the bad-ass-kicking women mentioned above would have rounded out the list beautifully!

my pajiba love (and it was definitely more than a crush) is waning.

sigh.

Posted by: ybird at November 1, 2007 10:56 AM

I'm embarrassed by how angry this list makes me because I try not to get too bent out of shape over things on the internet because, you know, they're on the INTERNET. But how does someone make a list like this and omit Xena, Beatrix Kiddo, Starbuck, President Roslyn, the ladies of Firefly, Agent Scully and of course, Leia? No offense, Bedhead, but do you even watch Scifi/Horror/Fantasy shows/movies?

Posted by: Regan at November 1, 2007 11:45 AM

No love for Pam Grier, specifically from Coffey or Foxy Brown?

Posted by: David Finn at November 1, 2007 11:54 AM

I'm going to echo all those who said President Laura Roslin: always a woman, and also the hardass who introduced execution-by-airlocking into the show.

But I'm not going to echo the inclusion of Eowyn from LotR--at least, not the movie version. Movie-Eowyn struck me as much more tentative and hesitant than novel-Eowyn.

Posted by: bethness at November 1, 2007 12:14 PM

Yes, movie-eowyn seemed too much "teenager trying to be seen as an adult by the big people" than actual heroine.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at November 1, 2007 12:17 PM

Wow. This list is missing err'body!

Just goes to underline how little attention these weemins are paid.

I'm gonna chalk it up to "it was a movie-only list, television doesn't count."

Because (unleashes the uber-geek) I know a warrior princess who, when she wasn't too terribly camp, kicked some ess.

Posted by: that bees chick at November 1, 2007 12:48 PM

Slightly off topic, but 'they' killed off the lovely Michael Biehn in both the Alien and Terminator franchises. I was terribly distraught about it too.

And am I the only one that noticed poor Ripley's love life really sucked? When she finally got lucky on that prison planet, minutes later her lover was torn to pieces.

Sad, that.

Posted by: Trilbynhiss at November 1, 2007 1:04 PM

Princess Leia, Marion Ravenwood, Xena and Callisto (evil, but SO good at it), Zoe of Firefly, Aeryn of Farscape, and Xev of Lexx all have already been mentioned, so I'd like to add my support to those..

But you want bad ass?
Ace McShane, of Doctor Who, all the fucking way. Explodes thing with Nitro-9! Wit! Character depth! Most importantly? Beat the crap out of Daleks. With a fucking bat.
And Romana too for being a refined, snarktastic brainy bad-ass of a different sort. Especially President/Imperiatrix Romana of the EDAs. Nevermind its being of debatable canonicity, dammit!

Really, this list is insultingly short. And Cherry? That's REALLY the best you can do? YOU LEFT OUT LEIA, OF ALL PEOPLE. AND FOR HER?

Posted by: the hel at November 1, 2007 1:39 PM

My mom. She battled poverty to send me to college. And she was a total badass when it came to picking up various weapons (belts, coathangers, various rods and sticks) when I got out of line.

Or....She-Ra

Posted by: ed at November 1, 2007 2:54 PM

But, but! What about Selena in 28 Days Later? Sure she needed a bit of help from Jim (and a couple bitey zombies), but that scene towards the beginning with the machete and the lopping? That has to be counted as bad-ass!

Posted by: Claire at November 1, 2007 2:59 PM

Alas, She-Ra lost all credibility the day she met the Sea Hawk.

Posted by: Stella at November 1, 2007 4:00 PM

i can't believe foxy brown isn't on here. she hid a gun in her afro!

Posted by: um at November 1, 2007 4:08 PM

How about Lori Petty as Tank Girl?

Posted by: kelli at November 1, 2007 4:26 PM

Tankgirl! She was ca-razy!

Posted by: Stella at November 1, 2007 4:45 PM

This list made me sad. No Princess Leia...no Veronica Mars (okay, she's not sci-fi, but she is awesome)...no Starbuck...I think there needs to be a Part II.

Posted by: bonnie at November 1, 2007 4:45 PM

River from Firefly.

Athena from Battlestar Galactica (she killed a fleet with her *brain*, people!)

Xena.

Juno from The Descent.

Just scifi/fantasy, huh? So I can't throw in a nom for Sara Tancredi from Prison Break? Shucks.

Posted by: Jon at November 1, 2007 7:26 PM

Okay,Agent Bedhead's too occupied with soome important stuff at the moment so she can't be stuffed to respond to any of your comments.But hey,look what her ignoring's done-you guys (commentors) pretty much made the list complete with all those nifty suggestions-there's a general consensus certain characters were seriously overlooked (& all for the sake of mother-effin CHERRY darling to be there?what a bleedin' shame) ie leia aeryn zoe the bride so all the shortcoming's of this shit stain of a list,all of you have corrected to perfection.

Posted by: Daniel at November 1, 2007 8:50 PM

These have probably been mentioned, but I gotta watch The Office soon:

1. Alabama in True Romance. Patricia Arquette wastes James Gandolfini and then burns the hell out of him with a lighter and a can of aerosol hairspray. And her husband in the movie is Christian Slater circa '92. YES.

2. The aforementioned women in The Descent - hardcore.

3. AHHHH this episode of The Office is amazing!!! I gotta go.

Posted by: Katie at November 1, 2007 9:11 PM

I'll put in a vote for Zoe, Tank Girl, and Max from Dark Angel -- also, more votes for Scully! She kicks ass in six-inch heels!

Posted by: zh at November 1, 2007 10:53 PM

Scully.

Posted by: Matt at November 2, 2007 12:12 AM

RIPLEY.

My all time favorite movie, and if you really love a movie, you'll see it more than 250 times. When I first saw this film it was the point that my little 13 year old self just KNEW I'd be a momma one day, and that I'd always want to be as motivated, determined and never-give-up as she was for my own kids.

Actually, it's kind of like that now at my house - you should see the mother-in-law hiss! I blew her out the airlock though when she wouldn't use the car seat and had a s*it-fit on me, so I'm living the dream. :)

Posted by: rebeccah at November 2, 2007 3:48 AM

Awesome write up Agent Bedhead! I would pick Cherry as well.

Posted by: Wild Thing at November 2, 2007 9:55 AM

I will chime in with the Starbuck pleas and ALSO Nikita of La Femme Nikita - both the TV show and movie.

Posted by: Tina at November 2, 2007 10:33 AM

Yeah, I have to agree with the novel-Eowyn over movie-Eowyn.

Oh oh!! I got it.

Valeria, from Conan the Barbarian.

"Do you want to live forever?"

She is a ba-DASS.

Posted by: boo at November 2, 2007 12:01 PM

This list is ridiculously sub-par. I agree with most of what you said, but you also left out way too many, which just makes this look like sloppy work.

Posted by: dene at November 2, 2007 1:19 PM

I didn't read all of the comments yet, but I am about 3/4 through and I am surprised that I have not seen:

1) Red Sonia - she was my Pricess Leia
2) 7 of 9 from Star Trek Voyager
3) Captian Janeway from Voyager
4) SheRa - offshoot from the HeMan cartoon

I also agree with Genna Davis from the Long Kiss Goodnight, one of my favs, and River Tam.

I have never been much of a Buffy fan either. I find Charmed pretty similar to Buffy and I am just not that into either of them.

Posted by: lickoriche at November 2, 2007 2:25 PM

Aeon Flux

Even the live action version was good (which surprised me).

Posted by: MadameUgly at November 2, 2007 3:08 PM

Big huge wordy WORD to Aeryn Sun.

Also, anyone else a Babylon5 fan? (Are both of us here? heh...) I'll nominate Cmdr. Susan Ivanova, who notably ends a long and colorful threatening-message-to-the-enemy-forces with, "Who am I? I am God."

Oh man, now I want to go home and watch that show again.

Posted by: alanna at November 2, 2007 6:04 PM

Turanga Leela.

Posted by: J at November 2, 2007 7:35 PM

I cast a vote for Agent Scully! She's a badass.

Posted by: SecretAgentGirl at November 2, 2007 11:10 PM

My list would include:

1. Honor Blackman, the Avengers, did it first and best. Buy the DVDs and see for yourself. Intelligence and anger mixed with smoldering slow-burn amusement at her partner's antics.
2. Dianna Rigg -- brought her own interpretation to the Avengers -- still great on the DVDs.
3. Andrea Parker -- the Pretender. Amazing. And very , very sexy. Toughest character on TV.
4. Sarah Michelle Gellar -- Buffy.

Posted by: Jim Rockford at November 3, 2007 4:54 PM

Good list, but it was a little short, everyone else has made good additions that at least some should have been mentioned or at least explored. I know you're a bit tired this week agent, so I'll forgive you this time...

Posted by: ph at November 3, 2007 8:52 PM

Charlie Baltimore- HELLS YES. If there had been more Charlie Baltimore movies, I'd have watched them all and gotten all the action-figures and eaten Charlie Baltimore cereal and gotten the lunchbox and everythang.

Okay, probably nobody will back me up on this, but what about Zula- from Conan the... whichever it was. The Destroyer, I think. Okay, she wasn't all that fleshed-out as a character, but SHE WAS BAD ASS! Remember when she stabbed that dude with her spear and then she like, hissed (ahhh!) and had that crazy look on her face? AWESOME. And her advice for the little lovelorn princess: "Grab him, and TAKE him!" KICK ASS.

ALSO: Buffy was the Shit. SMG is annoying, and I kind of hate her, but I love BUFFY so much that it makes me hate SMG less than I should. That being said, BUFFY CAN DO WHATEVER SHE WANTS AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE OKAY. Even when she's wrong, she's still right. And there is NOTHING wrong with getting some gnarly grudge-fuck on... especially when the enemy is as drool-worthy as Spike. Spike could burn my house down, run over my dog, and kick my mom in the face and I would STILL put it on him.

Posted by: Blackwater Hattie at November 4, 2007 9:20 AM

WHO SAID VALERIA?? Whoever it was- you kick ass. She was ALSO The Shit, she fought off evil spirits with just a lil knife. That takes balls, like whoa. (If Zula and Valeria got into a fight, who would win? Hmmm. I'm going with Zula. But Valeria keeps her cred because she could steal your whole house with you in it, and that's cool.)

I am such a goddman geek.

Posted by: Blackwater Hattie at November 4, 2007 9:29 AM





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