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Guides | October 30, 2008 | Comments (52)


“Say goodbye to classical reality, because our logic collapses on the subatomic level… into ghosts and shadows.” - Professor Edward Birack, Prince of Darkness

John Carpenter is a living conundrum. He is responsible for some of the most influential science fiction and horror films of all time. He’s revered by geeks everywhere, and has spawned innumerable imitators, not to mention those who list him as a profound influence. Yet he’s also responsible for some truly terrible movies, bafflingly meager offerings that make us shudder to think about. Therein lies the problem. If the only Carpenter film you’ve seen is, say, Ghosts of Mars, you’re going to think that Carpenter aficionados/junkies like me are likely either insane or just have horrendous taste in movies. You’d almost be justified if you vowed to never watch any more of his work.

However, if you ignore Carpenter’s classic works, you’ll be left with a gaping void in your cinematic knowledge. While some of his earliest works may not have aged well, they are nonetheless critically important contributions to their respective genres. Carpenter’s films are a joy to watch for anyone who has an appreciation for solid, innovative sci-fi or horror. Those two genres are his bread and butter (with some action movies thrown in for good measure) and his ability to tell a good story within those genres is remarkable. Films like Halloween and Prince of Darkness are deathly serious, creepy affairs meant to scare and not amuse; you’ll find no tongue-in-cheek humor there. Yet he does have a wicked sense of humor and a strong taste for satire, as seen in more farcical efforts like They Live and Big Trouble in Little China (which should be a part of this guide but won’t be included since it was reviewed in full here). Carpenter is a master at pacing, never rushing his stories and instead letting them unfold at a leisurely, sometimes frustrating pace. Rarely does he dive straight into the action, and in his creepier works it can take a while to discover the purpose behind the horrors on screen.

With themes that range from a distrust of authority and absolutism, complete with the rebellious anti-hero as a lead (They Live, Escape From New York), to paying for the sins of the past… or the future (The Fog, Prince of Darkness), to simply the coming of the end of the world, Carpenter has covered a lot of ground over the course of his career. His “Apocalypse Trilogy” (The Thing, Prince of Darkness, and In the Mouth of Madness) represent a body of work that all deal with Armageddon resulting from supernatural or alien forces causing humans to turn on each other in some fashion, with grim, dark-hearted results. You’ll also find recurring actors — it’s clear that he’s had some successful working relationships, some of which even would go on to become close friendships, with his actors. Kurt Russell (hell, half the cast of Big Trouble in Little China), Jamie Lee Curtis, Keith David and Donald Pleasence have all had roles in multiple Carpenter films.

That career has been a lengthy one. Dating back to 1962, John Carpenter has directed 30 films, written over 20, produced and even acted in several, not to mention that he frequently composes the music for his films using his house band, The Coupe De Villes. Without question his Golden Age is the period from 1976 to 1988, a dozen years that provided an astonishing list of films that virtually everyone has at least heard of, if not seen and come to revere. While he had limited success both prior to and since then, those films are his pinnacle achievements. For the purposes of this guide, we’ll focus on those classics, with some attention being granted to one or two exceptions.

Without further ado, I give you the Pajiba Guide to the Films of John Carpenter.


Assault%20on%20Precinct%2013%2013.jpgAssault on Precinct 13: A bona fide classic and the rare Carpenter film that is neither Horror nor Science Fiction, 1976’s Assault on Precinct 13 is a seminal entry into the action movie genre. It’s about an old and dilapidated police precinct, about to be shut down and running with a barebones staff. It’s stormed by a gang called Street Thunder, seeking bloody retribution for the deaths of some of their members at the hands of the LAPD, and the entire movie focuses on them laying siege to the building. The leftover police, a handful of prisoners that were meant to be transferred and a few innocent bystanders are caught in the crossfire and must try to defend themselves.

Filmed on a meager budget of $100,000 and filled with no-name actors, Assault on Precinct 13 is one of those films that may be more important than it is good. While it’s still an engaging, stark and visceral film, it hasn’t aged well. Viewed as hyper-violent at the time, it’s rather tame by modern standards. Still, it’s a depiction of a vicious battle between borderline psychotic gangsters and desperate protagonists that still can thrill to this day. The camerawork is inventive and the action, while more sedately paced than the crazed, berserker-edited films of today, is choreographed with style and grit. Every frame of the film is weary and seems washed out, and it gives a harsh picture of a dreary, on-the-verge-of-death neighborhood that is losing the struggle against the bad guys. While not terrifically exciting anymore, it’s an important entry into Carpenter’s work and the action movie genre in general.


halloween-michael.jpgHalloween: 1978’s Halloween is easily the most well known and probably the most popular of all his films. Perhaps the grandfathers of the modern slasher movie, Halloween is an honest to God horror movie. It wants to scare the shit out of you, and overall it succeeds. Right from the eerie opening credits, which feature just the cast and crew information next to a jack-o-lantern floating in blackness and the now-famous music, you know Halloween is the real deal. For those who haven’t seen it, it starts out with a young boy who, for reasons unknown to this day (despite that freakshow Rob Zombie attempting to over-explain it in his wholly unnecessary and awful remake), stabs his older sister to death on Halloween night. Found near-catatonic by his parents, he’s committed to a mental institution. Years later, despite the fearful eye of his doctor, Sam Loomis (Donald Pleasence in perhaps his best Carpenter role), a full-grown Michael Myers escapes and returns home.

From there, you can guess where it goes. He begins stalking Laurie Strode (Jamie Lee Curtis) and young Tommy Doyle, the boy she’s babysitting (who thinks he’s seen the Boogieman). Meanwhile, Loomis desperately tries to enlist the help of the local sheriff to help track him down. It may sound like Halloween is boring, derivative slasher movie fare when in fact it’s more accurate to say that everything since is basically a cheap imitator. Like most of Carpenter’s early films, it was filmed on a tiny budget — less than $500,000 — so much so that the cast had to provide their own clothes. It’s completely lacking in special effects, uses makeshift sets and was filmed on a relatively rushed schedule. Despite all of that, it’s a masterful horror film, playing on people’s fear of the dark, of strangers, of the unknown. Michael Myers is nothing less than a force of nature, an enigma. While many have theorized that he kills promiscuous teens as some sort of vengeance, it’s a pithy response that cheapens the truth, which Loomis sums up best:


…there was nothing left. No reason, no conscience, no understanding; even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, good or evil, right or wrong. I met this six-year-old child, with this blank, pale, emotionless face and the blackest eyes… the Devil’s eyes. I spent eight years trying to reach him, and then another seven trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy’s eyes was purely and simply… evil.


Carpenter found genius in simplicity. A methodical, silent killing machine with no motivation, no root causes. We’re spared the lengthy explanations and justifications — he’s an empty vessel filled with nothing more than the instinct for killing that defines him. Halloween also features numerous camera shots taken from Myers’s perspective, allowing us to see and hear as he does, making it even more unsettling. While some of the films on this list have lost their luster and are now more valuable for their contribution than their quality, Halloween is no such entry. It remains to this day one of the best horror movies ever made.


fog-1980.jpgThe Fog: 1980’s The Fog is Carpenter’s second foray into genuine horror. Set in a fictional California town called Antonio Bay, it’s about a town on the verge of its centennial celebration. As the clock strikes midnight, a mysterious fog rolls across the water and into the town. Strange lights are emitted from The Fog and shadowy figures holding baling hooks and scythes appear and disappear, while all sorts of havoc breaks out in the town — car alarms go off, furniture moves around, and shit just gets all-around weird. Three sets of characters try to figure out what’s happening while also trying to stay alive — fisherman Nick and the beautiful hitchhiker/one-night-stand he picked up Elizabeth (Jamie Lee Curtis); Kathy (Janet Leigh), the town matron who is organizing the centennial party with her assistant Sandy (Nancy Loomis), and Stevie (Adrienne Barbeau) the local DJ who can see the fog coming in from the lighthouse she works out of and is desperately trying to get her son out of danger. The story is a lean, tightly paced tale about the town’s dark history with a nasty sins-of-the-father twist. The cast is quite good — no brilliant, career changing performances, but each gives a solid, steady turn. Most intriguingly, it features three absolutely iconic female actresses (Barbeau, Leigh and Curtis, the latter two of which are real-life mother and daughter - an impressive collection of celluloid queens at different stages of their careers.

The Fog is one of Carpenter’s more underrated films. It’s an effectively creepy ghost story with less emphasis on horror and gore, and more on a quiet sense of dread and eerie atmosphere. With a couple of pretty good jump-out-of-your-seat scares, The Fog is a wonderfully successful entry into the list of a dying breed of movies — the honest-to-goodness ghost story.


escape.jpgEscape From New York: 1981’s Escape From New York is set in a dystopian future (1997!), where Manhattan has been walled off and now serves as a barbaric prison-city where the worst of the worst are condemned to live. A convict named Snake Plissken (a raspy, sneering Kurt Russell) is drafted to rescue the President of the United States (Donald Pleasence) after Air Force one crashes into the middle of Manhattan and captured by the ruling gang. Similar to Walter Hill’s The Warriors, it features depictions of gangs that are absolutely bizarre and at times downright loopy. Isaac Hayes of all people plays The Duke, the baddest motherfucker in town and the leader of the President’s captors. We know he’s a badass because he rarely speaks and is surrounded by a pack of goons who dress like they were dragged from a Duran Duran video and then thrown in a pigpen. Oh, and he’s chauffeured around in a giant ‘77 Cadillac Fleetwood with chandeliers hanging from the hood to serve as headlights. Chandeliers, people. It’s a thing of beauty and if you loved me, you’d find that car and buy it for me. Of course, in keeping with the theme of the evils of authoritarian power, the bigger threat to Snake may well actually be the prison warden Hauk (Lee Van Cleef) and the two-faced bastard politicos who sent him in. Along the way, Snake encounters a circus-like cast of characters including Cabbie (Ernest Borgnine), the kind-hearted wheelman, and Brain (Harry Dean Stanton) the treacherous secret-keeper that Snake needs but can’t trust.

It all makes for wacky, exciting fun and it’s worth watching simply to understand its place in the genre’s annals. One of Carpenter’s most well known films, Escape From New York is another one that hasn’t aged too well (Snake’s urban-camouflage tights are a particularly nice touch). So while the visual effects, costumes, and production values clearly suffer under our harsh modern viewing perspective, its central theme of mistrusting authority still holds true today and it’s still entertaining as hell.


the%20thing.jpgThe Thing: While Big Trouble in Little China is easily my favorite Carpenter film (hell, it might be my favorite film, period), 1982’s The Thing (the first in the Apocalypse Trilogy) may well be his best film. Theoretically a remake of 1951’s The Thing From Another World (though some, including myself, call it more of a sequel), The Thing is actually both a more accurate version of the short story “Who Goes There,” by John Campbell, Jr. and certainly a superior film. Taking place at a remote research facility in the Antarctic, The Thing tells the tale of an alien life force that assimilates and then mimics whatever it touches. A research team comes across the alien when they find a dead Norwegian team and the remains of a bizarre corpse. They take in a dog that was being chased by the last survivor from the Norwegian base, not knowing that it harbors the creature.

What follows is a tense, claustrophobic picture that beautifully demonstrates both the effects of extended isolation as well as how quickly people can turn on each other and lose trust in those they see every day. It’s no spoiler to state that the team members soon discover what it is that’s hunting them — it’s a predatory shape-shifter that imitates not only appearance, but voice and personality as well. It makes for a truly frightening, paranoid experience as the cast is picked off one by one and they try to identify who has been taken and who could be next. Starring Kurt Russell, Keith David, and Wilford Brimley among others, the cast is marvelous at depicting a group of men whose nerves have become completely frayed, terrified both of their friends and themselves. Preying on your fears of the unknown and of betrayal, it’s a visceral, riveting experience. Once unmasked, the alien manifests itself in wildly bizarre, gruesome fashion, becoming weird tentacle-and-gristle-laden hybridizations of its victims. Carpenter ratchets up the unease and terror by combining the trust-no-one theme with nerve-wrackingly tight spaces, and then preventing escape due to the ever-present threat of death by freezing outside.

The Thing belongs in the company of the great tin can movies such as Alien and The Abyss. It’s a gut-clenching piece of filmmaking that probably ties with Halloween for the apex of Carpenters achievements.


princeofdarkness.jpgPrince of Darkness: Perhaps one of John Carpenter’s less well-known greats, 1987’s Prince of Darkness is another solid and original entry into the horror genre. Again featuring actors from prior films (Dennis Dun and Victor Wong were both in Big Trouble in Little China, and the omnipresent Donald Pleasence), it’s the second entry into the Apocalypse Trilogy. Prince of Darkness revolves around a priest (Pleasence), a physics professor (Wong) and his students who descend upon a church to study an eerie canister filled with a sinister churning green liquid that is way more than it appears. The nearby homeless and schizophrenics (led by a silent and terrifying Alice Cooper), tainted and possessed by an unseen evil force, descend upon the church with a looming sense of menace. Soon, a battle for survival (and the fate of the world) ensues as they must fight the evil outside as well as within.

Unlike many of Carpenter’s other films, Prince of Darkness is heady, esoteric stuff. Equal parts horror, science-fiction, and philosophical and theological discourse, it’s an ambitious film. The movie is filled with synth-heavy, foreboding music and a constant feeling of dread (aided by continual shots of skin-crawlingly nightmarish, writhing masses of insects in some very unsettling places). Instead of being a simple tale of evil and possession, Prince of Darkness instead chooses to ask questions about the very nature of evil, about God and Satan and the possibility of something more heinous than even the Devil himself. Pleasence and Wong are great, playing a man of God and a man of Science respectively, trying to find out the truth and eventually protect a world that would never believe or understand the things that they know are out there.

Prince of Darkness was ill-received at the box office, and hasn’t garnished the cult status on home video or DVD that other Carpenter films have. It features little in the way of special effects and relies on brains, honest scares and a gripping climax (with a bitch of an ending) to get the job done. The acting is unfortunately quite uneven (as great as Dennis Dun was in BTiLC, he overacts terribly here), which contrasts with the fact that it’s a complex, cerebral picture that stays true to its horror roots. Genuinely unsettling and at times, downright ghastly, it should be experienced by all horror fans.


they_live.jpgThey Live: 1988’s They Live is probably Carpenter’s goofiest yet smartest movie. A magnificently mulleted Roddy Piper (formerly most well-known as the WWF’s “Rowdy Roddy Piper”) stars as the nihilistically named Nada, an itinerant day laborer who, after finding a special pair of sunglasses discovers that the world around him is a sham, and that cadaverous-looking alien doppelgangers walk among us, subliminally brainwashing humans to become mindless drones and eventually, slaves. Nada enlists the help of his friend Frank (Keith David) to begin an insurrectionist rampage and bring down the alien oppressors.

Full of weird, black comedic undertones, They Live is actually a nastily clever, subversive little film. Released during a politically conservative time in American politics and during the height of the unrestrained capitalistic frenzy of the 80’s, it’s a sharp criticism of the consumerist culture of the times. Money has secret messages stating “This Is Your God,” while billboards and advertisements contain hidden slogans like “Obey,” “No Independent Thought,” and “Conform.” Piper is a brash, blustery oaf of an anti-hero, yet he brings a sort of loudmouthed charm to the role. His famous line about kicking ass and chewing bubble game may seem silly now (it was apparently a line he’d been rehearsing to use in the wrestling ring) but it fit well within the framework of both the film and the character.

Carpenter made an interesting choice with They Live — creating a sinister, trust-no-one world with a witty dissident tone to the film — and then casting a brawny lummox to play the lead role. Yet, as with many of his mad science experiments, it works in ways no one thought possible.

Honorable mentions (post 1988):


atmouthofmadness.jpgIn the Mouth of Madness: A deeply flawed film, the first time I saw 1994’s In the Mouth of Madness, I was scared shitless. The second time, I laughed my ass off. The third time lay somewhere in between. Carpenter’s mixed-bag homage to H.P. Lovecraft is a bizarre exploration of insanity, monsters and the power of the written word. At times it’s quite beautiful, with some truly twisted and disturbing imagery. Unfortunately, it also fails to sustain its tone, despite the presence of solid actors like Sam Neill, Charlton Heston and Jürgen Prochnow. Still, it’s better than many of Carpenter’s other recent entries, and certainly better than most contemporary horror films.


Carpenter_CigBurns.jpgCigarette Burns: Carpenter’s entry into the first season of Showtime’s deliciously depraved and horrific Masters of Horror series, Cigarette Burns is a glimpse of Carpenter’s greatness resurrected. Essentially, it’s about a film so terrifying, so bloodcurdlingly evil that it caused a wave of insanity and mass murder during its first screening. A man is tasked with finding the remaining print, and his efforts encounter all sorts of bizarre nightmares and shifts in reality. A hallucinatory, phantasmagoric exercise in fear, religion and torture, it’s not for everyone. But if you’re willing, it’s a wickedly sharp, surrealist film that will definitely stay with you.


prolife.JPGPro-Life: Carpenter’s second Masters of Horror entry, Pro-Life is part morality tale, part gore-fest and part unnerving drama. Combining the ideas of abortion shootings with demons and one seriously fucked-up baby, it’s a demented piece that shocks more than scares. The acting is a mixed bag and the production values are less-than-stellar, but it’s worth seeing just to understand how twisted Carpenter’s vision can be.


Happy Halloween, everyone.

TK can be found wandering aimlessly through suburban Massachusetts, wondering how the hell he got there while yelling at the kids on his lawn. You can find him raising the dead in preparation for world domination at Uncooked Meat.


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Comments

Good stuff!

I think you nailed all that's great, and not so great, about John Carpenter. I just watched Big Trouble In Little China a few days ago for like 67th time. I have a hard time turning that movie off.

Posted by: ajax19 at October 30, 2008 2:28 PM

"...If the only Carpenter film you've seen is, say, Ghosts of Mars, you're going to think that Carpenter aficionados/junkies like me are likely either insane or just have horrendous taste in movies..."


I still don't get the Ghost of Mars hate, personally I find it a tight little horror-action jaunt that benefits from Cube, THE Statham and Natasha Henstridge's tits.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 30, 2008 2:29 PM

No Big Trouble in Little China?

Posted by: Eep at October 30, 2008 2:29 PM

Shit. Fuck. Yeah. Motherfucker.

First, Austin Stoker rocks Assault on Precinct 13.

Second, I was one of those weird little girls who watched Escape and Big Trouble constantly and as a result, is still searching for my own personal Snake Plissken, surly and dangerous, but with a dash of Jack Burton's humor and footwear to keep it interesting. What I wouldn't do to meet a man who'd call me "Lil' Pork Chop"...

Posted by: courtney 2 at October 30, 2008 2:30 PM

Ahhh, nevermind, sorry, skimming.

Posted by: Eep at October 30, 2008 2:30 PM

Just out of curiosity, am I the only one here who has seen Dark Star?

Posted by: Eep at October 30, 2008 2:38 PM

Great list TK. I only saw The Thing and BTILC this past year, based solely on your love for the latter and my company's mailroom guy's obesssion for the former. They both have become two of my favorite movies.

Next up: They Live.

And this line? "I spent eight years trying to reach him, and then another seven trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply... evil." Even reading it gives me chills. THAT'S the mark of a great horror movie.

Posted by: Julie at October 30, 2008 2:40 PM

Although I've only seen a handful of JC's films, the mood of them always affected me. This guide is fabulous, and I'm sure it will spur me to see a few more.

To this day, Halloween is my favorite scary movie. No matter how many times I see it, it still makes me jump. I know exactly what is going to happen at any given moment, and yet each time is like the first. It's like forever being a virgin each time you get laid. And Donald Pleasance just rocks.

Posted by: Cindy at October 30, 2008 2:59 PM

I'm a big sucker for Carp and his cheezy music. I even liked Vampires.

Posted by: Eep at October 30, 2008 3:01 PM

They LIVE!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!

Love it.

And I'm with Cindy; no matter how many times I see Halloween, I still scream out, "He's right there! WATCH OUT! AHHHHH!!!!"

I'm a post-punk bona-fide chicken shit. I LOVE to have the pee scared outta me.

AWESOME list Teek. Awesome.

Posted by: boo at October 30, 2008 3:03 PM

That shit when Mikey's got the sheet over his head with the glasses - I am practically peeing my pants the whole time he's walking toward the girl on the bed. Stop talking and run bitch!

And that music. Fuck!

Posted by: Cindy at October 30, 2008 3:11 PM

As much as I love Halloween, I can never get over the fact that Jamie Lee Curtis is somehow unable to escape Michael Myers even though he's walking after her in the middle of a suburban street on Halloween night, and the place she chooses to hide is the closet of her own empty house. Did everyone else go to bed early?

Posted by: Macafee at October 30, 2008 3:20 PM

It's hard to run fast Macafee when you're screaming and your tits keep smacking you in the face. I should know, it happens to me every morning when I almost miss the subway.

Posted by: Julie at October 30, 2008 3:24 PM

Making some additions to the Netflix queue right now. Great piece, TK, as always.

I'm ashamed to say that I've seen Escape From L.A. and not (yet) Escape From New York. I may remedy that tonight while the wife watches three hours of garbage on ABC.

Posted by: Sean (Llama) at October 30, 2008 3:33 PM

The Fog sucked flaming monkey balls. And Adrienne Barboobs played the worst DJ ever. EVER!

Trying to make fog scary, is like trying to make a killer dust bunny scary. (I had a friend of a friend have a nightmare about a kiler dust bunny coming to get them, and they didn't appreciate all the laughter from us when what they really wanted was a little sympathy about how friggin scared they were during the dream.)

Posted by: BWeaves at October 30, 2008 3:49 PM

Hee, BWeaves. AHHHH! It's making me SNEEZE!!

Posted by: Julie at October 30, 2008 3:56 PM

If you can say with a straight face that Halloween is the "grandfather of all slasher movies," you've obviously never seen the silent The Cat and the Canary.

Posted by: Pisco Sours at October 30, 2008 4:05 PM

Nah, I have seen "The Cat and The Canary" and it's basically the old "must spend a night in a haunted house" horror / comedy / silent. I don't think it can compare to the gross out modern slasher films.

Posted by: BWeaves at October 30, 2008 4:12 PM

That said, Pisco Sours, I actually prefer "The Cat and The Canary" to the load of crap mentioned above.

Posted by: BWeaves at October 30, 2008 4:15 PM

I'm a big sucker for Carp and his cheezy music. I even liked Vampires.

Ain't nuthin' wrong with Vampires. Sheryl Lee acting nutso like she does best, Daniel Baldwin looking like Fat Elvis and James Woods being... well, James Woods. Good times.

Posted by: Goldie at October 30, 2008 4:21 PM

Pisco Sours.... reference to Dinner Rush? If so, fucking excellent.

And I agree, Goldie.

Posted by: Eep at October 30, 2008 4:26 PM

No Christine? You, sir, are dead to me.

And Starman has by far the best acting and the greatest emotional punch of any Carpenter film.

There's never been an actor, not even Christian Slater, more perfectly cast as a DJ than Barbeau in The Fog. The worst thing about the remake of was that Selma Blair could not even come close to that smoky, sexy voice.

Posted by: Todd at October 30, 2008 4:55 PM

You Pajibans are some cool folks. Wish I could hang out with you sometime.

A few months ago I had the awesome privilege of catching two double features at the theater. Each set of films bookended a Q&A...

The Thing
John Carpenter in person!
The Fog

Big Trouble In Little China
Austin Stoker in person!
Assault On Precint 13

The first end of each bill have been favorites of mine for many years, but it was my first time catching either on the big screen. The latter half in both cases was new for me. (The Fog is a little dated and cheesy for my taste, I'm afraid, but it was still fun.)

Anyway, Carpenter was a humble and funny guy. It was awesome to listen to him talk about his movies.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at October 30, 2008 5:01 PM

Damn, I always loved BTiLC, They Live, Escape from New York, and especially The Thing. Snake Plissken is the tits, man. Seriously. And Halloween? Come on...scared the living dog shit out of me, and still does. Stabbing him with a coat hanger? Crazy! And the way MM just sits completely straight up and and then just turns his head? In-frickin-sane!!!! GOT to watch it this weekend. I have not seen, and will not see, Rob Zombie's snot-fest of an explanation. I don't need one. The original was enough for me (personally, I think it was making the kid dress up like a clown, then putting a Shatner mask on him later in life that fucked him up!)

Posted by: dammitjanet at October 30, 2008 5:03 PM

I always confuse The Mist with The Fog. It's the same thing, isn't it? If someone comes out with The Haze or Fuck I Can't See A Fucking Thing Through This Foggy Mist, I'm fucked.

Posted by: Goldie at October 30, 2008 5:09 PM

Todd: I'm not talking about Adriene Barboobs voice not being DJ worthy. I'm talking about her actually being a DJ. Did you listen to the music she plays? It SUCKS. Did you listen to the fact that she's actually off the air most of the time? What kind of DJ is that?

Posted by: BWeaves at October 30, 2008 5:30 PM

TK,

I can't believe it. You, who among the Pajiba staff, has tastes most compatible to my own, did not include the Carpenter classic Christine!!! Not even in the honorable mentions section??

I agree that BTILC, Halloween and The Thing are all superior, but COME. ON. Keith Gordon! Harry Dean Stanton! A 1957 Plymouth Fury! Roberts Blossom! The fat dude from The Catholic Boys! Er, Alexandra Paul. !. One of SK's best novels! The music!

I'm ashamed of you. Ashamed at the person you could have been and even more ashamed at the person you've become (insert rest of witty, trying-to-be-in-Top-10-Comments remark here).

Posted by: boogs at October 30, 2008 5:44 PM

Great timing, T.K. It's been horrorfest at my house this month. Last night we watched "The Thing" and earlier this week it was "The Fog". Both are 2 of my favorites and it was great seeing my kids ducking under their blankets (ok, one of them ducked) when "The Thing" got really gooey. Carpenter was the man for the longest time, I don't know what the hell happened. I think the horrific "Escape from LA" melted his brain. I may check out his Masters of Horror entries, though.

Posted by: TylerDFC at October 30, 2008 6:35 PM

Oh, Boogs... did you see this thing? It's like a million words long! I had a full write up of both Christine AND Dark Star, but... something had to get cut, I'm afraid. Fucker is too long as is. But fret not, Christine is a worthy subject... but what would YOU have removed?

Posted by: TK at October 30, 2008 6:42 PM

Did you listen to the music she plays? It SUCKS. Did you listen to the fact that she's actually off the air most of the time?

No, can't say I did. Next time it's on I'll try to pay attention to that.

Posted by: Todd at October 30, 2008 7:33 PM

Thanks for the frolic through John Carpenter's mind. I agree with you 100% on The Thing. It has taken on a majesty all of its own since 1982. But, please, please post your Dark Star words! That was an important fledgling entry in the Carpenter canon, the most creative use of a beachball in cinema history and the best C&W space trucker song I know: Benson Arizona....

Posted by: Sgt. Pinback at October 30, 2008 7:50 PM

Halloween is my absolute all time favorite scary movie.

More than that, I think its one of the most perfect movies ever made. There is nothing left over.

Like, you might wonder how a kid who was institutionalized at the age of 6 knows how to drive a car at 21, but so do the people in the movie. There is respect enough for the audience to address something that wouldn't even be an issue in today's horror movies.

But, the thing I love most about Halloween, was that it showed how such a great movie could be made for next to nothing. Like if you actually look at the scenery, all the trees have green leaves on them. But, there are leaves falling and on the ground.

Those awesomely cheap motherfuckers actually marked every single one of those fall colored leaves as props and gathered them up after filming each scene so they could use them again.

I love that. It speaks so much to my inner used-to-be-on-welfare-and-and-struggled-hard-to-make-something-of-my-life-child/cheapskate.

There are two moments in that movie that I think are so realistic that it has to draw you in:

1. When the little kid sees Michael carrying a dead babysitter into her house from the other side of the curtain.
2. When after Laurie has gone to investigate the house where her friend is babysitting and after being slashed down the arm and is still in disbelief puts her hand through a plate glass window to unlock the door and escape, manages to get out of the house across the grass to the neighbors house screaming for help, only to have the neighbor see her through the window and turn out the porch light. The realization on her face that no one is going to help her because they think its a prank is just awe inspiring. Its the end of a kind of innocence. She now knows she has to save herself and keep her promise to not let anything happen to the kids she is babysitting.

I love that movie. I think I could challenge anyone on any single scene in that movie. And the best part is that all John Carpenter wanted to do was make a very simple movie on a cheap budget.

Posted by: cmoody at October 30, 2008 7:56 PM

One of my mom's favorite horror films is Carpenter's The Thing, and here favorite scene is when they strap a bunch of guys to the couch to interrogate them and all hell breaks loose.

My dad never missed a chance to watch Escape from New York when it pops up on cable.

You could say my family's a fan of Mr. Carpenter.

I have to agree with a lot of other folks, The Fog degenerates into cheese at the end. It's not my favorite. It's not even all that spooky.

Prince of Darkness scared the living piss out of me, and it still gives me with willies. But WTF is up with the end? Am I thick? So don't get it.

Yeah, Mouth of Madness is wickety wack. Nonsense mashed in with some truly eebie jeebie imagery.

Nice write up, buddy.

Posted by: Alabamapink at October 30, 2008 9:03 PM

Let the drive sequence begin, hit it Pinback.

Posted by: The Ross Sea Party at October 30, 2008 10:30 PM

I always saw Assault on Precinct 13 as a zombie movie without zombies.

Posted by: Gee at October 30, 2008 11:56 PM

I started watching In The Mouth of Madness on YouTube last Saturday because it's Halloween and I wanted to see something scary. I always thought it was a scary movie, at least from what I remembered. I got so bored watching it I turned off my computer at part 6 or whatever. Pretty much around the time they get into Hobbs End. Then I watched the whole thing on the Sci-Fi Channel Sunday night and it was nothing like I remembered. The scariest parts were the kid on the bike and evryone asking "Do you read Sutter Cane". I don't know maybe it's just the name that is creepy. Doesn't hold up so well like Halloween which I have seen at least 3 times in the past week. Or The Thing, which I watched on Sci-Fi this afternoon. Still haven't seen the original Assault on Precint 13. Just the remake. Did everyone in the original get shot in the head like in the remake?

Posted by: B. at October 30, 2008 11:58 PM

Just out of curiosity, am I the only one here who has seen Dark Star?
Posted by: Eep at October 30, 2008 2:38 PM

Nope, I seen it. Back in the day when Blockbuster actually had movies. A professor in college was actually shocked once when he asked the class if anyone had heard of it, and I sheepishly raised my hand.

I remember making fun of it a lot with my friend, but we were so young, so naive.


However, I would like to point out that Carpenter is the one guy I've found, aside from Ridley Scott, who take their commitment to the Directors commentary of their movies on DVD seriously. You want to learn about the technical aspect of a film, a directors job, just listen to him talk about his movies. It's an enlightening experience.

Posted by: Some Guy at October 31, 2008 12:37 AM

Carpenter is one of the only directors who I would classify as: I would watch any of his films.

I remember seeing Halloween in the theatre (after the slasher movement was in full swing) and having the wind knocked out of me. Its difficult to describe the visceral impact of that film.

Posted by: monitorman at October 31, 2008 2:55 AM

Thank you for thoughtfully commenting on Prince of Darkness. I saw that movie when I was nineteen and high, and it fucked my shit UP. Yet, everyone else I've seen comment on it in print has turned up their nose: "A green canister! How stupid!" It's nice that some thinking person found the movie as disturbing as I did.

Posted by: Erin MJ at October 31, 2008 3:45 AM

The realization on her face that no one is going to help her because they think its a prank is just awe inspiring. Its the end of a kind of innocence.

cmoody, I agree on the end of innocence part, but I always read it as the neighbors are "minding their own business" type of thing rather than thinking it's a prank. (Oof, bad English, sorry. Early. Not enough coffee. Too many thoughts). Like the whole Kitty Genovese murder, where nobody wanted to get involved. I seem to recall there being (at my tender age of 8 at the time) such a huge fear of strangers and getting involved with other people in that era.

Anyway, enough of my badly worded $.02. Awesome write-up, TK, I've been a Carpenter fan for nigh on 30 years now. The Thing was one of my mom's favorite movies ever, and mine as well. I've never seen Dark Star, but I vow I will one day. They Live came out just as I was discovering paranoia and especially paranoia about conformity, and so it will always hold a very special place in my heart.

the only thing I don't get is Prince of Darkness. To me, that's "the one with Liquid Satan" and Alice Cooper as a homeless guy, and it pretty much just cracks my shit up. I'll try watching it again, but I'm not making any promises about taking it seriously.

I promise to go drink some coffee before I comment on anything else.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at October 31, 2008 9:49 AM

The fact that you've banded together the works of Drew fuckin McWeeny at the end there only serves to show how bad things have become for the old master.

Still, I rather have a soft spot for In The Mouth of Madness. It makes for a great Ham Neill double bill with Event.

/brought you on this ship, thought you were cute.

Posted by: emotionalpedant at October 31, 2008 9:54 AM

The fact that you've banded together the works of Drew fuckin McWeeny at the end there only serves to show how bad things have become for the old master.

Still, I rather have a soft spot for In The Mouth of Madness. It makes for a great Ham Neill double bill with Event.

/brought you on this ship, thought you were cute.

Posted by: emotionalpedant at October 31, 2008 9:58 AM

"The Thing" is a great movie, has one of my favorite lines ("You gotta be fuckin' kiddin' me") and a couple favorite scenes (the opening, with the helicopter chasing the dog, and the ending, with two resigned guys making small talk while waiting to freeze to death).

I prefer to think of it as a remake and THIS is how a remake should be done: Take a cheesy, not especially good original with a great idea at the core and take that idea seriously as a motherfucker. More bad movies could find new life if people followed that template.

Seen "Escape" too but have to track down a few others on this list. Bravo, TK!

Cooley/Tucker '08

Posted by: bucdaddy at October 31, 2008 10:32 AM

I love Dark Star. I first saw it at a campus movie club at UW-Madison and fell for it immediately Dan O'Bannon (Pinback), who later wrote Alien and Blue Thunder, is a hysterically funny actor. John Carpenter plays the deceased yet cryogenically preserved Captain who wants to know how the Dodgers are doing..."Sorry sir, they disbanded fifteen years ago..."
Great script, bizarre characters, and filmed on probably a dollar thirty eight. It must be seen!

Posted by: Adam C at October 31, 2008 1:02 PM

The alien in Dark Star is easily the scariest and most realistic alien ever realized on the silver screen ;-)

Posted by: Eep at October 31, 2008 1:08 PM

That beachball was the inspiration for the entire plot of Alien...seriously!

Posted by: Adam C at October 31, 2008 1:19 PM

Jack Burton.

Me.

Posted by: hater from siloam springs at October 31, 2008 1:57 PM

I've said it before on this site: Prince of Darkness scares the crap out of me. That said, I try to share it with people every few years and they don't get it.

I think that Carpenter's horror films are really effective because they make me feel both claustrophobic and isolated. As per cmoody's comment above about how Laurie knows no help is coming, and in Prince of Darkness when nobody outside the church notices what is going on, you know that you are alone.

I think Christine stands up pretty well though - it has been on TV a lot lately, and I enjoy it every time, more so than BTiLC, which I love anyways.

Posted by: llp at October 31, 2008 10:27 PM

Carpenter's re-interpretation of the original "The Thing," as bucdaddy so well described, is a beautifully written, acted, directed and perfectly-produced entity, standing alone not only as a great horror film (sci-fi being only secondary to the central theme of the film), but as a new interpretation of horror itself- fear, distrust, paranoia, isolation within close quarters you simply cannot leave or escape- all distilled by Carpenter, and thus the characters themselves become truly identifiable and sympathetic, even as they go further into situations they themselves can't control. This "terror of the unknown" infuses the characters with an extra level of sympathetic helplessness for us, the viewing audience, that we can identify with and fight back accordingly, no matter how overwhelmed they (and we) may be.

but allow me to submit that this particular early 80's film alone (and I myself am an admitted 'Halloween' hater) ushered in the new, exciting (for a 20-something geek) and unexpected great 'rennaisance' (sp)of beautifully-executed, timeless cinematic wonders that pushed all boundaries, allowing such future works as 'Evil Dead', 'Re-Animator', 'Basket Case', the great Peter Jackson's 'Dead Alive' and 'Brain Damage', to name a few, to be released to a wider audience, if only on VHS; the all-out intense, in-your-face gruesomeness of Troma's 'Toxic Avenger' and 'Redneck Zombies', shit that H.G. Lewis, an early gore enthusiast in the early 60's, could only dream of producing; all of this was a feast to my ever-expanding desire to see the films I'd been denied on the big screen before I even knew of them.

And it was a short, exciting, brilliant period in the history of horror filmmaking, those 1980's, and please let's not any of us forget it.

HOWEVER, I had to end my Halloween night with about the 16th viewing of 'The Exorcist', the single most horrifying film of all time in my opinion, so brilliantly and perfectly executed, with a nuance and foreboding and pure fear that is elicited beyond the ordinary 'scary movie' experience, to ever have been brought to the screen... and by a guy who'd never directed a horror movie before SeeeNap!! It's THE classic for me, folks, and I invite anyone to present a more disturbing film that could outdo a 1st-time viewing of this experience.

Who're you more scared of: a killer that don't even carry a gun, who kills in stupid and predictable ways? Or a satanic demon that wants your very soul, that no earthly power can stop??

Sorry to ramble on, peeps, I just had a GREAT Halloween night watching the two above-mentioned movies with some great friends, and it's one of the better Halloween nights I've had for a few years now.

I'd love to go on a tangent,and appreciate any and all commentary related to my rant tonight; but before I go

let me just say that everyone's opinion of their own scariest movie is their's alone, and we, us all-encompassing Pajibans, have both the duty and honor of accepting all forms of freaky, unique taste and individual experience in films, from anyone, for that is what we do.

Happy Hallow's (well,) day (after now, I suppose)

OBAMA/or ARMAGEDDON '08

Posted by: TMax at November 1, 2008 1:43 AM

I'm so pleased by the LACK of response to my above long-winded epistle, posted over 15 hours ago, that I decided to go on another one, just because something I write will be preserved in digital space, if nowhere else otherwise. And I blow off some harmless steam, a'right?

TK, your 'Guide' to John Carpenter's films was lazy; hastily compiled and in some cases completely ignorant of the man's overall contribution to horror and sci-fi films, as evidenced by obvious omissions, mentioned by others, of 'Christine', 'Star Man', others I could mention if I were to think it through (thankfully, I don't do that much),
but you get my point.

And actually pointing out 'The Fog', for any reason--... whatsoever?? The most boring, sucktastic, extraordinary nutsackiness of 'horror' films that this, or any other, director's career could ever be associated with?

'Prince of Darkness', a snore/borefest that the most ardent admirer of Carpenter's defenders were forced to admit was a frustrating, overwrought disaster?? Shit, man, you been watching the wrong Carpenter films!

Your fawning over the sleep-inducing 'They Live'? Oh shit, that takes the cake: I recently re-watched this movie and was genuinely let down at the very lack of action, interrupted only by a meandering plotline, or lame attempt to develop a story other than a man wandering around town wearing sunglasses that allowed him to see aliens and subliminal messages that other humans couldn't. Great idea, what with the obvious political subtextual messages and the like, but he's overreaching his audience, suckingly executed, and I fell asleep in two separate viewings, only to see the parts I'd missed on DVR and feeling strangely contented that I didn't witness them in real time, only upon replaying it. To watch a non-actor (Piper) literally wandering through his scenes in a plot-derived situation that requires only walking around in a stupid haze for three parts of the film, and expect the rest of the film to provide "texture," or "meaning," or- er, entertainment in ANY semblance, no matter all the other messages Carpenter wanted his audience to see;

I'm sorry, I'm tired of wasting my time italicising and bolding to get my own opinion across, worthless as it may be.

All I wanted to express tonight is that every single auteure of the horror genre has at one time or another 'disappointed' their intended audience, hoping that they would follow their own particular, new vision and embrace it as the artist does- it's all part of expanding your own career, relying on your own instincts and hoping your vision resonates. That's what movies, and the creators behind them, are all about.

But, on to more important matters (don't want to miss McCain on SNL).

Thanks for the outlet to write.

And everyone in this country involved, don't forget to fall back an hour, that meaning we all here turn our clocks back an hour, God only knows why, for my Canadian friends whom I love and adore and hope not to be intruding upon your country if the -- unthinkable -- happens (Meaux, you gotta at least have a storage closet I can sleep in, eh??)

"Long live the new flesh"

(D'oh!! That's Cronenberg, sorry, scratch that)

Posted by: TMax at November 1, 2008 11:31 PM

TMax, I love that you wrote this: "let me just say that everyone's opinion of their own scariest movie is their's alone, and we, us all-encompassing Pajibans, have both the duty and honor of accepting all forms of freaky, unique taste and individual experience in films, from anyone, for that is what we do."

And then went on to bash the reviewers taste in your next post. You hypocritical windbag.

Posted by: Strawberry at November 1, 2008 11:46 PM

I can't believe you actually went and started ragging on They Live. That movie wasn't/isn't about action pieces or any o' that shit!

It's a comment on capitalism driven consumerism, isolation and society as a tool geared towards facilitating it.

WATCH IT AGAIN!

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 2, 2008 5:17 AM