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I used to think the Oscars were about pure quality. Of course, I also used to believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the notion that love could keep two people together; I’ve come a long way in realizing the error of my ways. I used to watch the Oscars with a sense of excitement and anticipation, hoping that the films I loved would be honored and also secure in the knowledge that whatever judgment was passed down would be sound, and true. After all, this is the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences, the governing body that annually bestows awards upon the films its members have deemed to be most worthy of celebration. But, like I said, I’ve gotten older and wiser since then, and the years of seeing good films passed over for bad ones — the brave ones spurned in favor of the safe ones — have finally gotten to me. Sure, sometimes the Oscar winner for Best Picture is just that, a film of heart and depth that deserves all the merit bestowed on it even as it competes against equally compelling, stirring films. (I’m thinking of how Shakespeare in Love earned the nod over Saving Private Ryan, a choice I support, though I certainly see both sides of the argument.) But let’s be honest: We’ve all had that moment of sheer disbelief, of unpleasant shock, when the film we thought was nominated just to be fair turns out to win the top award over a film that was smarter, truer, or just plain better. It’s not that the Oscars avoid awarding Best Picture to the actual best picture; it’s just that award often finds its way into the hands of the film that had the highest overlap between storytelling quality and mainstream palatability.

This list is to decry those choices, and to try to set right the Academy’s missteps by speaking truth to power and being honest about the films that should have been gifted with the Best Picture statuette but were sadly overlooked. For the sake of convenience, I’ll only be discussing films that were nominated for Best Picture; opening up the race to every film released in a given year would be problematic, to say the least. And just for the hell of it, let’s go chronologically:

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1980
Ordinary People beats Raging Bull
The first entry on the list begins with what will be a theme for the Academy: Screwing over Martin Scorsese. Raging Bull was Scorsese’s first nomination for directing, and it’s a fantastic, gritty, brutal film. In other words, the kind of movie that gets nominated on buzz and shafted on the big night in favor of something sappy, saccharine, and much easier for the Academy fogeys to swallow. In this case, that turned out to be Robert Redford’s Ordinary People, a dull, WASPy, terribly melodramatic movie that’s right up the voters’ cheesy allies. While later injustices still sting — there’s more Scorsese later on the list — this one is just plain nonsensical given the films’ respective legacies over the past 27 years. Raging Bull is still regarded as one of Scorsese’s best, and the man’s no slouch when it comes to filmmaking. But Ordinary People is the kind of drivel you stumble across on HBO late at night and quickly pass over. Raging Bull was a classic in 1980, and it’s just as good now.


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1988
Rain Man beats Mississippi Burning
Pauline Kael wrote that “Rain Man is Dustin Hoffman humping one note on a piano for two hours and eleven minutes,” and it’s hard to disagree. For some reason, the Academy loves handing out awards to actors and movies that deal with mentally retarded characters, even though no one knows how hard or easy it is to convincingly play the role. In the otherwise forgettable The Score, Edward Norton’s con man faked being mentally challenged to get inside the vault he was attempting to rob, and the stunning ease with which he switched between “regular” and “handicapped” tore a giant hole in the myth of what it means to “act” the role of someone with a mental disability. Is it really as easy as just doing that voice and changing your walk? It can’t be, can it? It can. And the Academy loved it from Hoffman, who I’m surprised didn’t beat himself senseless with a hammer to achieve some kind of Method-level of performance. Rain Man was giant ball of shlock from the often-reliable Barry Levinson, but it still beat Alan Parker’s Mississippi Burning, a compelling real-life drama about the disappearance of civil rights workers in 1960s Mississippi and the subsequent FBI investigation. Parker’s film had solid performances from Gene Hackman and Willem Dafoe, as well as a terrifying turn from Michael Rooker, but it didn’t matter. Hoffman just mumbled about being a good driver, and that was that.


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1990
Dances With Wolves beats Goodfellas
This one still hurts. When Dances With Wolves came out for Thanksgiving 1990, Kevin Costner was still in the middle of his improbable heyday: He starred in The Untouchables in 1987, Bull Durham in 1988, and Field of Dreams in 1989. Costner ruled Hollywood with that amiable charm and his willingness to make baseball movies. But it was his directorial debut, Dances With Wolves, that established him as Very Serious Filmmaker. Costner’s effort was a hammy film that aimed for epic, but there was no way it could top Scorsese’s masterpiece. Goodfellas was raw and energetic and didn’t let up for two hours, compared with Costner’s soporific ode to casting yourself in your own movie. Again, just look at how the films have aged: Costner’s film isn’t remembered for much except for being the moment when his career began to ebb, while Scorsese’s film is considered to be one of the best films of the decade and one of the greatest mob pictures ever.


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1994
Forrest Gump beats The Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, and Quiz Show
This is the first of three entries on the list where the Best Picture winner took the trophy over several films that were equally deserving of the award. In a way, this is even worse than a bad film beating a good one; this is a bad film winning out over two, or three, or even four films that were all better than the winner. It’s no surprise that Forrest Gump won; it’s a damn love letter to Boomers, set to the greatest hits of the 1960s and ’70s and featuring that old Academy favorite, a retarded hero. The greatest injustice of Forrest Gump’s winning Best Picture was the fact that The Shawshank Redemption was overlooked. The Shawshank Redemption is one of those movies like Office Space that everybody loves but that no one saw in the theaters. In the fall of 1994, everyone was too busy freaking about how awesome Tom Hanks was to care that a modern classic was slipping off the radar. On top of that, Robert Redford’s Quiz Show was miles beyond his earlier directorial work, a continuation of the human drama he started in A River Runs Through It and a fantastic, character-driven period piece. And then there’s Pulp Fiction, Quentin Tarantino’s second film and still the best of his career, a fiery, explosive movie that heralded the height of the indie/Miramax movement and the unlikely resurrection of John Travolta. The Shawshank Redemption is a beautiful, wonderfully watchable film; Quiz Show is a brilliantly realized commentary on the loss of whatever innocence American once pretended to have; and Pulp Fiction is one of the most influential films of the 1990s. And they all lost.


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1997
Titanic beats L.A. Confidential, Good Will Hunting, The Full Monty and As Good As It Gets
And the hits just keep on coming. It almost feels like a waste of energy to point out that Titanic was a bloated, ungainly wreck of a movie, a grandiose, stupid, cloying melodrama that forever changed director James Cameron from the guy who does reliable sci-fi action to the guy who got really obsessed with himself. He even shouted “I’m the king of the world!” when the film won its 927 awards that year, a joke that sank faster than Leonardo DiCaprio’s corpse in the North Atlantic. But it’s not just that Titanic won Best Picture; it’s that it did so at the expense of three much, much better films. Good Will Hunting put Matt Damon and Ben Affleck on the map, and say what you will about either of them, but their work in that film and on its screenplay is sharp; it also features the best performance Robin Williams will ever commit to film, and for which he won Best Supporting Actor. Likewise, As Good As It Gets was a pristine example of a rare subgenre of filmmaking that’s increasingly harder to find: The comedy for adults. Director James L. Brooks hadn’t made a film this good since 1987’s Broadcast News (though to be fair, he’d only made one film in the interim, 1994’s deeply troubled I’ll Do Anything). Hell, even The Full Monty was light and fun and a nice surprise. Even if it wasn’t quite on the level of the other films, at least it was honest. And oh, L.A. Confidential. Curtis Hanson’s direction, from Brian Helgeland’s adaptation of James Ellroy’s novel, turned what could have been an overburdened excuse in stunt casting into a masterful period drama and a damn fine whodunit, set in the Golden Age of Hollywood, when everything was sleazy and nobody cared. It’s the movie that put the names of Aussie stars Russell Crowe and Guy Pearce on the lips of everyone in America; it’s the movie that brought back Kim Basinger; it’s the movie that made you remember how great a simple crime drama could be. And it was passed over for Titanic, a towering mess of forgettable filmmaking that put more stock in set design than story. Ugh.


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2000
Gladiator beats Traffic
Being a man — or anyway, a male — in college when Gladiator made it to DVD was tough; this is the quintessential dorm room movie for colleges in small Texas towns, and if that’s where you, as I, happened to be matriculating, God help you if you think Ridley’s Scott’s pseudo-epic is clunky and dull and just not that good. This was also the year that Academy awarded Best Actor to Russell Crowe, despite pretty heavy competition from Tom Hanks (Cast Away), Ed Harris (Pollock), and Geoffrey Rush (Quills). Crowe’s award was part of the Academy’s practice of giving someone a statue more for an overall body of work, or even something overlooked in the past, instead of the film in question. Crowe’s performance in Michael Mann’s The Insider was ten times as riveting and affecting as his brutish turn as Maximus, but that’s how these things shake out. But come on: Steven Soderbergh was at the top of his game with Traffic, a sprawling, layered look at the drug trade that told a relevant story about American decay. And that’s why the Academy went with Gladiator: It was triumphant where Traffic was lamenting, war-like where Soderbergh’s film saw the futility and mutual suicide of war. Traffic was the better, smarter, bigger film, but its ambiguity cost it the trophy.


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2003
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King beats Mystic River
There’s no question that Clint Eastwood has now, at the supposed end of his career, begun to make the best movies of his life. Hell, he was 62 when he made the near-flawless Unforgiven, and 73 when Mystic River came out. His contemporaries are wandering aimlessly through Wal-Mart in sandals and argyle socks, and this guy’s making damn masterpieces. Mystic River is just one of the many peaks of his elderly renaissance, a sad, stirring movie about the horrors we visit upon each other in the supposed name of love, or justice, or vengeance. It’s got a big broken heart running through it, anchored by another blistering performance from Sean Penn, who’s easily among the best of his generation. In other words, it’s everything that The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King isn’t. The Return of the King is a stunning technical achievement, to be sure; Peter Jackson came as close as anyone can probably come to getting the look of J.R.R. Tolkien’s novel right on the screen, which is why the Academy awarded his film Best Picture. But that’s all The Return of the King is: A triumph of computer effects. Mystic River wallowed in the deep places of the soul; The Return of the King skated right over them, trading the spare, almost tender, way that Tolkien crafted his characters for a slick, overly produced, ham-fisted drama that’s about as subtle as being struck in the back of the head by an actual copy of The Lord of the Rings. If I had any faith left in the Academy, this is the year I lost it.


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2005
Crash beats Brokeback Mountain, Capote, Munich, and Good Night, and Good Luck
Scratch that; this is the year I stopped trusting the Academy. This is the year I realized that they will still continue to award quality work in filmmaking, but only serendipitously, out of sheer happy coincidence. Ang Lee’s Brokeback Mountain was a tender, doomed love story, and became a cultural event larger than the film itself. Bennett Miller’s Capote was a stunning feature debut that revolved around Philip Seymour Hoffman’s amazing lead performance, which won the Best Actor award. Steven Spielberg’s Munich was the director’s most politically charged film in years, and showed he was still at the top of his class of film-school revolutionaries. George Clooney’s Good Night, and Good Luck was an equally thought-provoking film, one where Clooney took a back seat to the story at hand and David Strathairn’s gripping turn as Edward R. Murrow. All of these films are good films, smart, strong, well-made films that deserve to be praised. But Paul Haggis’ Crash is just the kind of pseudo-intellectual dreck that finds itself atop the awards heap when all is said and done. It attacks the issue of modern-day racism with all the sophistication of a college freshman, never stopping to wonder if people fight each other because they’re lonely, or frustrated, or just plain assholes. If someone cuts you off in traffic, and you get upset, maybe it’s not because the driver’s a different race; maybe you just don’t like being cut off on the highway, you know? Haggis’ film soars past the usual level of manipulation filmmakers employ when telling a story and becomes something cheap, and unclever, and almost offensive in the haphazard way it pretends to talk about real issues. It’s not merely that Haggis made a clunky film about race; it’s that, in the midst of a turbulent war and with the memory of Sept. 11 still lingering over a generation, he abused the power he has a filmmaker to create something complex and tough and challenging and good and instead funneled into something tawdry and exaggerated and stereotypical and embarrassing. Movies can show us who we are, and what we want to be, and how far we sometimes have to go make up the difference, and Crash is the antithesis of all of that. Of the other four films nominated this particular year — and they’re all masterful films — perhaps Munich comes closest to dealing with the terrors we visit on each other and the price we pay for what we think is justice. But Spielberg’s film is a tough one, unwilling to compromise in its search for answers to the big questions, and that ultimately disqualified it from winning. Crash is slick, dumb, and full of answers, but no one seemed to care that they were the wrong ones.


Daniel Carlson is the managing editor of Pajiba and a low-level employee at a Hollywood industry magazine. You can visit his blog, Slowly Going Bald.


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Comments

I guess the only one I am going to disagree with you is "Dances With Wolves". Not saying that "Goodfellas" doesn't deserve an award. But both movies back to back--I'll have to go with monotone Costner. DWW was one of the few movies I've seen clocking in at 2 1/2 hrs that I didn't want to end. Sorry, I'm a girl.

I was so sad when "Shawshank" didn't win that I was nearly in tears. And felt the same when "Titanic" won because it just blows.

Posted by: wsapnin at October 2, 2007 1:24 PM

The Shawshank Redemption is one of those movies like Office Space that everybody loves but that no one saw in the theaters.

I saw it in theatres. And - even more heinous - Shawshank Redemption is not on the 100 best movies list. Argh.

I agree with all of your choices, even though I liked quite a few of the winners. 'Gladiator' is a movie I will watch anytime anywhere but it wasn't a Best Picture winner at all.

Posted by: twig at October 2, 2007 1:29 PM

sorry, i hated mystic river. i'm not in the pro-lord of the rings camp, but good god, i thought that movie was overwrought schlock.

i also remember that the year crash won was the year that amy adams was nominated and lost for best supporting actress. she was robbed.

Posted by: breonne at October 2, 2007 1:35 PM

I assume they rewarded Jackson for the culmination of the three films. I assumed it would win because it was the last one, and because the films became icons and, honestly, a visual dream come true for Tolkien fans who longed to "see" the books so well. It most likely should have won nearly every technical award, but not Best Picture. The whole trilogy also has religious themes delivered as a pill in jelly, making it a comfortable choice.

I have seen 8 of the 24 movies mentioned. Shawshank should have won. I saw Forrest Gump with my mother, and it opened up a chance for real conversation between us (she's a boomer). I'll always be fond of it for that. I love The Big Chill for the same reason. Costner's best film! Heh.

Posted by: Kermit at October 2, 2007 1:37 PM

While I agree that LotR:RotK did not deserve a Best Picture Oscar (sidenote: I LOVE the Rings Trilogy), Mystic River didn't either. Where you see a broken heart, I see bullshit. Penn's acting seemed forced and fake. The best things in that movie were Laura Linney and Marcia Gay Harden. This flick was as overhyped as Crash was.

Now, on to Crash beats Brokeback Mountain . Sorry, Brokeback was just plain boring. I think people just wanted it to win because of the subject matter, like it would symbolize that the world was ready to challenge traditional thinking about men and homosexuality. Blah, blah,blah. Instead, the movie was beautifully shot, expertly acted, but ultimately dull and boring. Like The Assassination of Jesse James... type of boring. I think Capote or Good Night, Good Luck would have been much better choices.

Posted by: ciji at October 2, 2007 1:40 PM

My mom took me to see Dances with Wolves in the theater and I wouldn't talk to her for a week afterward, mostly for subjecting me to the amputation scene. Hey, I was 10 years old.
I liked your list, although I don't think that either Brokeback Mountain or Munich were deserving of Oscars either. I'd have given it to Good Night and Good Luck.

Posted by: sarah at October 2, 2007 1:44 PM

Shawshank Redemption is one of my least favorite movies ever, probably because everyone creams over it. Forrest Gump was incredible, like my roommate said the other night, they just don't make movies like that anymore. Shawshank bored me to tears, and it can suck a railroad spike.

The rest of them are fine, but you're way off on the Forrest Gump/Shawshank switch.

Posted by: David at October 2, 2007 1:44 PM

Ooh, I really didn't like Mystic River, but other than that, I'm with you here. Nice piece. Even though I really, really loved Shawshank when I first saw it (in the theater), my evaluation of it has changed over the years -- BUT, I still enjoy it, and it's still a hundred times better than Forrest Gump, which I think is my least favorite Best Picture winner ever.

Posted by: JMW at October 2, 2007 1:46 PM

Shawshank Redemption is one of my least favorite movies ever, probably because everyone creams over it.

Officially least compelling reason for an opinion ever.

Posted by: twig at October 2, 2007 1:46 PM

Paul Haggis is a hack. I will never forgive the academy for choosing his self-righteous commentary on pseudoracism over a masterpiece about raw emotion and the struggles inherent in love (especially the same-sex kind). If only Pajiba chose the Oscars....

Posted by: Zoe at October 2, 2007 1:48 PM

Gotta disagree with Dances With Wolves. I love Goodfellas--and I'm neither a huge Scorcese fan nor a fan of most mob movies--but DWW has not been "forgotten". It's still remembered as the movie that singlehandedly righted decades of disgrace done to Native Americans in film, and as the movie that made westerns relevant again.

And I also thought Mystic River was "overwrought shlock", and I think Sean Penn is a scenery-chewing hack.

I'll give you everything else, though. Good god if I ever see Paul Haggis on the street I'm going to run him over.

Posted by: june at October 2, 2007 1:49 PM

Mystic River was a pretentious, unrealistic, self-satisfied load of stinking tripe. I typically like Eastwood's directorial turns, but that movie was terrible, obvious, please-give-me-an-Oscar beggary.

Posted by: Julian at October 2, 2007 1:51 PM

This is a horribly boring comment, but all I can honestly offer is that I agree with you on pretty much everything.

Of course, the Academy's been doing this type of thing almost since their inception. It's practially a tradition.

Posted by: Jen at October 2, 2007 1:54 PM

I'm mixed on this one.

To be quite honest, I loved Ordinary People and I think it's anything but dull. I went through a similar experience with losing someone in my family and this film really resonanted with me. Of course, that makes my cause a bit biased...but you can't say that every performance in that movie isn't one of the best of each actor's career. This is what Reign Over Me should have been.

I 100% agree with LOTR: ROTK, Rain Man, Dances With Wolves Gladiator, Crash and Forrest Gump(even though I really liked the latter and also quite enjoyed Dances With Wolves). I think Forrest Gump would have been a fair win if The Shawshank Redemption hadn't been nominated (or actually made).

I partially agree with you on Titanic...yes I'm one of THOSE people. I think Titanic has received an unfair amount of bashing. Yes, it's an overrated film and when it came out it was DiCaprio mania (which didn't help), but get over it. It was a decent film, the effects were amazing for the time and the acting was great. You honestly think As Good As It Gets deserved to win over it? Because i don't really believe that.

Out of all the ones you chose probably the ones I agree with the most (because I remember being so enraged at the time) was Gladiator in third place, Lord of The Rings in second place, and Crash in first place. Crash pisses me off the most because every film it was nominated against was way better than it, and incredibly sensational.

Posted by: citizen_cris at October 2, 2007 1:55 PM

"Because hope is a good thing, perhaps the best of things, and no good thing ever dies." Man, that could have been one of the cheesiest lines in cinema but delivered by Tim Roth to a parole-busting Morgan Freeman had tears STREAMING down my fucking face. I can watch that movie any time, anywhere. Good list.

Posted by: ueberbill at October 2, 2007 1:57 PM

Next you guys need to go through and find actors who were robbed by the Oscars. Ian McKellan was BORN to play Gandalf even if the movies weren't best movie material.

Posted by: ueberbill at October 2, 2007 2:00 PM

Great post - I completely agree on pretty much everything, except to some extent Forrest Gump. I really love that movie...I don't know if it should have won, but the competition was tough that year. Any of them could have taken Best Picture and I'd have been happy.

Could you do one of these features for actors and actresses sometime in the future? (coughcough Julia Roberts over Ellen Burstyn coughcough)

Posted by: Drew at October 2, 2007 2:04 PM

Some people remember where they were when Kennedy was shot. I remember where I was when Crash won best picture. Mainly because Annie Proulx used the opportunity to write an open letter to the Academy and pretty much everybody worked on Crash, saw it in the theaters, or thought about buying the DVD expounding to them 1) how great a film Brokeback was, 2) how much Crash sucked/how offensive it was, 3) exactly how dumb they all were for needing to be told in the first place.

Biggest show of egotism ever. And it has completely tainted both the short story and the movie for me to the point that I've refused to read/see it. Ever.

Also--I remember when LotR:RotK got nominated and some late night talk show host (I want to say Conan because it sounds like him) said that it had to win because if it didn't then ten billion fantasy freaks would storm Hollywood in full LotR costume and reap vengeance. So maybe it was a fear thing and Hollywood gave into the threat of ten billion geeks with flowy robes and synthetic ears.

Posted by: Scarlett at October 2, 2007 2:08 PM

I have a long-running argument with my brother-in-law. He is of the 'Gladiator Is The Best Movie Ever' persuasion while I am firmly entrenched in the 'Gladiator Was Merely A Really Expensive Popcorn Flick, And Not Even A Great One' camp.

That said, Joaquin Phoenix was wonderful in it.

Posted by: Mella at October 2, 2007 2:10 PM

Oh ueberbill, I'm with you. That whole final voice over "...I hope the ocean is a blue as in my dreams...I hope to see my friend again...I hope..." gets me every time.
Forrest Gump can bite me. My husband will occasionally lapse into Gump-speak just to make me crazy.

Posted by: fenchurch at October 2, 2007 2:14 PM

I'm still pissed off about Forrest Gump winning that Oscar. That trope where the boderline retarded guy is the only one with a moral center is trite and tired and insulting. For my money (as much as I loved Shawshank and Pulp Fiction) Quiz Show should have won just based on that scene where Paul Scofield realizes his beloved son is a big old cheater.

Posted by: megbon at October 2, 2007 2:17 PM

I apologize, Annie Proulx wrote a column for The Guardian. Having just reread it, I'm irritated all over again.

Not that, you know, she didn't have a point about Crash (because it sucked some serious zit puss). I just think she shouldn't have aired her dirty laundry so very, very hard.

Posted by: Scarlett at October 2, 2007 2:19 PM

1. Shawshank Redemption is one of the best movies ever, IMO. The fact that it was beaten out for the Oscar by Forest Gump makes me hate that crapfest EVEN MORE. Which is hard because...

2. I loathe Forest Gump. Everyone was going crazy about it, "Life is like a box of chocolates"ing all over the place, so I saw it, and I thought it was quite possibly the stupidest thing I'd ever seen. The only character I thought was even worth watching was Gary Sinise's Lt. Dan, and that was only because he also hated everything.

3. Putting this list out there makes it pretty obvious that mostly the Academy likes to honor things that were popular phenoms that particular year. Maybe it makes them feel "hip" or something.

4. The Academy kind of suck. The only thing they have going for their stupid show this year is Jon Stewart.

Posted by: Siege at October 2, 2007 2:20 PM

That Mystic River loss is so tragic I cry every time I watch it. That movie is going to weather all potential tests of time and go down in history as the one of the most potent modern American films about real people in crisis. It is certainly the best film made on our soil since the first digit of the date turned to 2.

Posted by: J.D. at October 2, 2007 2:24 PM

Scarlett - I didn't read or see Brokeback because I hated The Shipping News with a liquid white hot passion. I'm taking your Annie Proulx post as total validation of that. Also, I'm reserving the phrase "sucked some serious zit pus" for something. I don't know what - but it's definitely in the arsenal now.

Posted by: megbon at October 2, 2007 2:25 PM

DDW and Forest Gump I can live with. Crash was crap. As Good as it Gets is way underrated. Traffic is a far superior film than Gladiator. I'm ambivalent about the rest.

The unmentioned travesty is "Shakespeare in Love" besting "Saving Private Ryan". Gwenyth Paltrow sucks!

Posted by: Matt K at October 2, 2007 2:26 PM

I saw Shawshank in the theaters only because my uncle had a bit part in it and I heard that he had contributed a significant prop (the rock hammer) which belonged to my great grandfather. I had tried to read the novella Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption but couldn't get into it. Like a lot of people I left the movie theater enthralled and started forcing my friends to watch it. I liked Forrest Gump ok but I threw things at the screen when it won.

I didn't like Crash but I definitely didn't love Brokeback either. I really wanted to because I supported the idea of a mainstream gay love story, but I thought it was boring and slow.

Posted by: Sheri at October 2, 2007 2:26 PM

Overall, a nicely done piece.

Ordinary People, though, is an amazing film. And maybe it's been a while, but I don't remember being all that impressed or wowed by Raging Bull. Not to deny its influence, but... well, I'm not as insensed that OP won.

Quiz Show was just O.K. Forest Gump, too. Pulp Fiction, too.

Mystic River was kind of terrible in a way that Crash was. It was a movie that thought it was great that just sort of fell flat. And Clint Eastwood, bless his talented heart, shouldn't be writing the music to his films. It bugged me in MR and in bugged the hell out of me in Million Dollar Baby.

The Crash year, though? Couldn't have articulated it better myself.

Posted by: Ben at October 2, 2007 2:27 PM

I generally agree, save for the "Mystic River" thing. LotRs was groundbreaking in its way, and affecting, and "Mystic River" came off as grandstanding and Penn as tic-filled and pompous.

But that said, THANK YOU for driving a stake through goddamn Forest Gump's sanctimonious, self-congratulatory heart. I hate that film so very, very much.

Whew. That felt good.

Posted by: be right back at October 2, 2007 2:31 PM

Daniel, You beautifully stated why I have given up completely on Hollywood recognizing, much less rewarding, quality: "[I]t's just that award often finds its way into the hands of the film that had the highest overlap between storytelling quality and mainstream palatability."


I agree with every one of you comments except relegating "Ordinary People" to drivel status. Overwrought? Yes. Claustrophobic? Yes. Ham-handed? Yes, but not drivel.

When "Brokeback Mountain" lost I resolved never to watch the "Gay SuperBowl" ever again. On that night, I pop in the DVD for that masterpiece and give myself over to true cinematic art.

Moreover, I am probably one of the few Pajib(i)ans that agrees with your comment that, "I'm thinking of how Shakespeare in Love earned the nod over Saving Private Ryan, a choice I support, though I certainly see both sides of the argument." Bravo! Bravisimo!

Posted by: rudy at October 2, 2007 2:31 PM

God, we get it. You hate Crash and you hate Haggis. I swear I've read this same post a half dozen times.

Oh, and I'm not in the pro-Crash camp by any means. Munich or Goodnight and Good Luck deserved it.

Posted by: henry at October 2, 2007 2:32 PM

What about Shakespeare in Love beating out Saving Private Ryan?

I thought that Shakespeare in Love was boring and overly precious ("Oh look! So that's where he got that idea!"). While the argument could be made that Saving Private Ryan was cliche. At least the movie grabbed you and told an amazing story.

Posted by: Tanner at October 2, 2007 2:34 PM

Also, "Get busy livin'. Or get busy dying." Is one of the greatest truisms to be found in a feature film.

Posted by: Tanner at October 2, 2007 2:37 PM

So you still believe the Oscars have anything to do with actual cinematic excellence? Oh dear.

Posted by: Al Christensen at October 2, 2007 2:40 PM

Mystic River is just one of the many peaks of [Eastwood's] elderly renaissance, a sad, stirring movie about the horrors we visit upon each other in the supposed name of love, or justice, or vengeance. It's got a big broken heart running through it, anchored by another blistering performance from Sean Penn . . . .

Bwuh! Gah! Ack! Phffffppooooooo! Are you kidding? Sorry, DC, but gag a fucking maggot, man. Mystic River is a pile of steaming, melodramatic, overacted, overwrought elephant shite, i.e., large and pungent, but still a fucking turd. I had to restrain myself from laughing inappropriately every time Mega-Tron-Actor 5000 Sean Penn was on-screen, and his rampaging "is that my daughter in there" tirade is one of the worst dramatic scenes I have witnessed in my life. One of my favorite parodies is the litany of comics and others who paraphrased his tantrum as "Is that my Oscar in there!?!? Is that my Oscar in there!?!?" Penn's performance was the most over-the-top, blatant and undeserving Oscar grab since Jodie Foster "guh-guh-guhhhh"ed her way through Nell, and the film suffered mightily for his hubris.

Penn looked like a first-year drama student channeling Hamlet in a bad punk-Shakespeare adaptation. The only things that should have been "blistered" by that performance were the voters' asses after they selected the film. Aside from that little issue, Tim Robbins' accent was terrible, Kevin Bacon spent the entire movie looking constipated, Laura Linney apparently had received the script for Angela Lansbury's part in The Manchurian Candidate, and the sub-plot of Bacon's wife calling him from wherever seemed tacked-on and silly. The only actor who escaped with a shred of dignity was Marcia Gay Harden, who was fabulous.

Did LoTR:RotK deserve to win? No; it was a great, fun film, but not Best Picture. 2003 was one of the weakest fields in memory, BUT all four of the other nominees were better than Mystic River. Seabiscuit was formulaic crap with cringeworthy dialogue -- but better. Master & Commander was a bit too stuffy and ponderous, but Russell Crowe fucking killed Sean Penn in the acting department -- better. Lost in Translation was a great small film that suffered from an underappreciated cast and covered themes and sensations that are just lost on the typical Academy voter. I would probably have chosen that one from the available choices.

Jesus honking Christ. Fucking Mystic River. But you're absolutely dead-on right about Crash. That movie blows hard.

Posted by: socalledonlycousin at October 2, 2007 2:42 PM

Shawshank and Quiz Show are the kind of movies that I always stop at when aimlessly channel surfing. There is something so incredibly haunting about Morgan Freeman's narration and viceral about watching the English Patient dude cheat, lie and get caught. Forrest appeals to people for the same reason Titanic and Rain Man do: mall-variety innocence now in romantic, retarded or retro flavor.

Posted by: courtney at October 2, 2007 2:43 PM

Mystic River and Crash had their faults, but I think especially the latter wouldn't be so hated if it hadn't been so over-rewarded. It was entertaining in its heavy-handed way, and if it had disappeared without an Oscar nomination, it wouldn't have left such a bad aftertaste. But Forrest Gump...awards or no, that's just tripe.

Posted by: JMW at October 2, 2007 2:44 PM

Crash won because it made white folk feel like they "understood" minorities.

Also, I also cringe whenever I compare any scene in Goodfellas to the 2.5 hour self-handjob that was Dances with Wolves.

But I have to disagree with Lord of the Rings III vs. Mystic River. Mystic River was one of those movies if anyone but Eastwood (he of the one or two takes and we're done) hadn't made it, it would have been schlocky and despised. The inherent logic of the plot didn't even make sense. Sean Penn wants revenge and even though he probably knows Tim Robbins didn't do it, it still satisfies him to kill anyone? Huh?!? It's like if Michael Corleone knew that Tessio was the rat and killed Clemenza instead. And between the demonification of Marcia Gay Harden and that scene with Laura Linney at the end, the movie's actually quite misogynistic - so many of the bad events in that movie are attributed to the actions of women.

Lord of the Rings III got the award for the entire trilogy - which was a masterful jigsaw puzzle of all facets of moviemaking (except for dialogue which was Tolkein's fault anyway) put together incredibly well on a MASSIVE scale. I never liked the Lord of the Rings books but it was one time when I thought that the Academy got it right instead of giving the Oscar to their old friend Eastwood.

Posted by: Siddhartha at October 2, 2007 2:47 PM

Alright I only read the first bit so far but two things:

1) "alleys", not "allies", and
2) the phrase "truth to power" makes me want to beat someone with a stick, the usual context being dippy political statements made by people who have their heads permanently attached to a bong.

Great idea for a piece though... back to reading now.

Posted by: jvon at October 2, 2007 2:48 PM

Ugh, I loathe "Dances With Wolves." The sound of Costner's voice grates on me like no other. I can't believe it won Best Picture.

The 1994 race between "Forrest Gump," "The Shawshank Redemption," "Pulp Fiction," and "Quiz Show" was, in my mind, one of the closest races ever. All four were deserving; I actually quite liked a lot about "Forrest Gump" but would have probably given the award to "Shawshank."

What can I say about "Titanic" except that it came out when I was an overly emotional 16-year-old and I cried when I saw it in theaters (um, twice)? But even at that age I didn't think of it as the best picture of the year. Now I catch bits of it here and laugh at myself for liking it, although I don't think it was as bad as everyone made it out to be - Kate Winslet was very good in it.

I'm another who didn't see what all the fuss was about "Mystic River" and thought it was overwraught and overacted.

"Crash" was okay, but didn't really enjoy it for reasons similar to why I didn't love "Mystic River" - contrived and manipulative.

Posted by: Lara at October 2, 2007 2:51 PM

once again, agreement with everything except mystic river. fell asleep during every lotr, but then again, no good picture was nominated that year. closest was lost in translation and even then, the only thing it had going for it was another solid bill murray looking sad performance and a killer soundtrack. all in all, let's erase the 76th awards from memory.

it makes me sad that according to this review, every wrongly appointed best picture was 'clunky,' and/or 'ham-fisted.' sad because it's true. a thesaurus could easily disguise it, but doesn't make it less true.

Posted by: vinniedelpino at October 2, 2007 2:54 PM

About Crash sucking balls: the clip on Dan's blog pretty much sums it up.

Posted by: Tangerine at October 2, 2007 2:54 PM

Can't agree with you more on these, ESPECIALLY that damn Gladiator movie. God I hate Gladiator. Hate, hate, hate it. Also hate Crash, that movie was ridiculous.

Next up maybe a "Actors who are overlooked?" I'd love a new list of actors everyone forgets about to add their films to my Blockbuster list.

Posted by: twilly at October 2, 2007 2:56 PM

For me: The most egregious error by the academy will always be not nominating "Do the Right Thing" in 1989/90. I can't remember what movie won that year but it was a total snub, of Spike Lee, the visual story telling and the dialogue that movie sparked. (I know coked up Basinger didn't help the cause but she had a point.) Then everyone went overboard the next year to nominate John S. for "Boys in the 'hood".

They need more minorities in the Academy to recognize a wider range of cinema- not Tyler Perry mind you- but socially important movies, well told, that announce a new voice or direction. The academy is too slow to recognize and then they award the wrong movies/performances (I'm looking at Whoopi for Ghost, not Long Walk Home or Morgan Freeman, not for Glory or Shawshank etc.) Too few black, hispanic, asian and women get nominated probably b/c they're not in the voting.

Before you get all upset, I'm a WASPy girl from the Northeast not Tawana Brawley calling wolf.. (Sorry, low blow couldn't resist.)

I just think that movies can do better and there's so much money directed at appealing for the lowest common denominator or the cheesy drama. If you read Slate's article last year about Costume design you'd see how undiscerning the Academy really is. (In short we go for flashy not accurate. There used to be 2 awards for period and modern costumed movies. Syriana should have won for costume. )

-A

Posted by: Amanda47 at October 2, 2007 2:58 PM

I'm just glad someone's still talking about me. Any fame is better than no fame, and that's what the right reverend promised me.

Posted by: Tawana Brawley at October 2, 2007 3:05 PM

Gotta agree with the "Ordinary People" love. Though "Raging Bull" is a masterpiece, I don't think "Ordinary People" is deserving of the bile it was subjected to here. It's the ultimate therapist/patient connection movie - it's the precursor to "Good Will Hunting" (which I also love). The performances are subtle and heartbreaking. Also, seeing it as an adult I find myself thinking more about it from the parents' perspective. I love that the movie turned traditional gender roles on their head as we watched the parents grieve. If you love tearjerkers, this is one of the best.

Also, it's the only context in which I don't find Pachebel's Canon vomit-inducing.

Posted by: Samantha T at October 2, 2007 3:06 PM

Yeah, I liked Ordinary People. I didn't think Mystic River was that great; Lost in Translation was my choice to win that year. I do think it's a greater injustice that Gladiator beat out Crouching Tiger, though.

Other great moments in making the safest possible choice at the expense of movies that are at all interesting:

1941: How Green Was My Valley beats Citizen Kane and The Maltese Falcon

1944: Going My Way beats Double Indemnity

1958: Gigi beats Cat on a Hot Tin Roof

1968: Oliver! beats The Lion in Winter

1976: Rocky beats Taxi Driver (I'm sorry, I know people like Rocky, but come on!)

1979: Kramer vs. Kramer (not a bad movie in its own right) beats out freaking Apocalypse Now and All That Jazz

2005: Chicago beats The Hours

Posted by: Brenda at October 2, 2007 3:08 PM

When I saw the title of this blog, I knew "Ordinary People" would top the list. And I think it would, even if not a chronological list.

A pretty good read, overall. I'm with the "Mystic River" haters, so that doesn't work for me.

I loved "Gladiator", but that's not a bad call.

And "Pulp Fiction" was mesmerizing and should have won, hands down.

"As Good As It Gets" was bad.

Posted by: James S at October 2, 2007 3:09 PM

The Oscars (and for that matter, any of the "major" awards shows) are high school popularity contests as if they're voted on by the teachers instead of the students. Anything "subversive" or dark or interesting is given a nomination as a consolation prize, but the big prize usually goes to the big, sweeping soap opera or the film with the retard in it. Awards stopped being relevant to me as a mark of quality a long time ago. I haven't watched the bloated, boring Oscar broadcast in at least a decade. Apparently not missing anything, either.

Having said that, I liked "Titanic." Feel free to hate, and I don't begrudge anybody their right to hate whatever they want, but I thought Titanic was good for what it was: a disaster movie with a rich girl-poor boy romance pasted on.

Posted by: LL at October 2, 2007 3:17 PM

the 2.5 hour self-handjob that was Dances with Wolves.

To be fair, Kevin Costner did get hit in the face.

Posted by: twig at October 2, 2007 3:21 PM

nicely put. 2005 was definitely the nail in the coffin. I hadn't seen "Munich" before the awards, but have seen it since, and for all the hell I could give Spielberg for his preachy, showy overlong movies w/messages - "Munich" was the work of a master filmmaker, hands down. As was "Brokeback." I also thought "Good Night, Good Luck" was surprisingly excellent, but would never get crumbs from the Academy.


also totally shafted last year was "Children of Men" - easily one of the best movies made in decades...

Posted by: bg at October 2, 2007 3:25 PM

Eh, I kinda like Gladiator for that Oscar, agreed on the rest though.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 2, 2007 3:37 PM

"Do The Right Thing" was best at the Academy Awards in 89/90 by "Driving Miss Daisy." How's that for your race relations parables?

Posted by: Brad at October 2, 2007 3:38 PM

Ryan > Shakespeare
Shawshank > Gump
Ordinary People > Raging Bull
LOTR > everything
Mystic Pizza > Mystic River

Posted by: TL at October 2, 2007 3:40 PM

Well I could debate with you all day, or for the rest of my life on this topic, but I will briefly touch on two films: "Titanic" and "Dances with Wolves." It's easy to dislike these two films. In fact, it's almost become a cliche to spew endless, hateful criticisms at the two.

"Titanic" is great storytelling. Cameron is one of our most gifted directors because he knows how to tell a good story. Hell, he made some of us cry at the end of "Terminator 2." Who would have expected that? "Titanic" certainly isn't a flawless epic, but regardless of its glaring imperfections (the casting of Billy Zane, cheesy dialogue), you can't deny that the movie stays with you -- in a good or bad way, you remember it.

The race was clearly between "Titanic" and "L.A. Confidential" that year. The rest -- 'As Good as it Gets," "Good Will Hunting," "The Fully Monty," -- c'mon, are entertaining films, but Brooks and Van Sant, in particular, soaked the audience with false, self-conscious sentimentalism. And half the people who watched "Monty" couldn't understand what the characters were saying.

Okay, no one can deny that "Goodfellas" is one of Scorsese's best films. Should it have lost to "Dances with Wolves"? Probably not. But "Wolves" is not a bad film. It's sweeping, engaging, and sure, Hollywood swooned over the fact that it was Costner's directorial debut -- but the film could easily serve as an example to film students on how to craft a cinematic story.

I agree with you, by the way, that "Forrest Gump," "Gladiator," and "Crash" did not deserve Best Picture. "Gladiator" is one of Scott's weakest films. I hated it. "Crash" is self-indulgent and calculating.

Posted by: Eric at October 2, 2007 3:42 PM

I guess I just don't see the point in quibbling over the dumb Oscars. No one is right, and no one is wrong, but they sure are fun to discuss. As such, I don't really see the tragedy in a good movie winning over a great one. That said, sentiment over some of these is certainly wide enough for a legitimate debate.

Technically, Raging Bull is a marvel. But I just don't find it that compelling such that I would really want to rewatch it. I can't speak of Ordinary People, as I have not seen it.

I never saw Mississippi Burning, but I love Rain Man. Absolutely love it. I'm sorry. It just hits me in the heart. And though he has obviously descended into self-caricature at times, I think Tom is outstanding in it. Possibly his best performance.

Dances With Wolves is often derided for beating Goodfellas. Don't get me wrong. I love Goodfellas and think it's vastly superior. But I think Dances With Wolves is a very good film and worthy of recognition. Thus, it doesn't bother me that much. I'd have been happier with a split with Wolves taking Picture and Scorsese taking Director, but Goodfellas is immortal and speaks for itself.

Forrest Gump - this one we can agree on. Gump is technically fine, but I personally can't really stand it, and those other three films are all vastly superior. Quiz Show in particular is criminally underrated. And incidentally, I was one of the ones who saw Shawshank in the theater. By myself, at that.

I'm not a Titanic fan at all. I have no desire to rewatch it. But again, it's a technical and logistical marvel, and I'm fine with Cameron receiving accolades. Plus, those other films you mention that were nominated aren't really that great, with the exception of LA Confidential. The love for As Good As It Gets has always mystified me. The Full Monty is fun, but to call it a better achievement than Titanic is silly. Good Will Hunting - love the script and performances, but it does not really seethe transcendent. The film that truly got robbed in 1997? Boogie Nights.

Agreed on Gladiator over Traffic. Gladiator is good, but it is far from great. I'd rather watch Spartacus. I'd maybe even rather watch The Fall of the Roman Empire with Christopher Plummer's rendition of Commodus. And Traffic was a soul-stirring experience for me.

Lord of the Rings? Again, it's a technical achievement spread out over three years that deserved recognition. Plus, I think it does have that heart you say it is lacking. And though I liked Mystic River, it just doesn't do it for me. (There are several other films from 2003 that I liked more than either of those.)

Agreed 100 percent on Crash and those four other nominees. I couldn't say it any better.

Posted by: Darth Corleone at October 2, 2007 3:58 PM

It's nice to see other fans of Ordinary People. It's always been one of my favorites. It's not for everyone, but I do think it's deserving of the accolades it receives. It's sad that it seems to be known in history as nothing more than the "film that stole Scorsese's Oscar." Ordinary People is powerful, moving, and above all, honest.

I'm no fan of Costner, but Dances with Wolves is incredible. I get caught up in it every time I see it.

Posted by: Brie at October 2, 2007 4:06 PM

I still get nearly apoplectic with rage when I remember that Titanic beat LA Confidential, and this is coming from someone who admits to liking Titanic. It is just that LA Confidential is a perfect film. I bet Kate Winslet herself would readily admit that she'd rather have a chance to play Lynn Bracken than be in Titanic.

And kudos to Brenda for recognizing The Lion in Winter. There is another pretty much perfect movie. Check it out, if only for some really excellent new ways to go tell someone you hate to curl up and die.

Posted by: swimgrrl at October 2, 2007 4:06 PM

I will never, ever, ever tire of hearing Crash lambasted. Can we burn Crash in effigy? Can we start an anti-Crash holiday? Can we sing hymns in honor of the four martyrs to Crash?

Posted by: Jen at October 2, 2007 4:09 PM

Darth Corleone - I think we're separated at birth. I feel the EXACT same way about "As Good as it Gets" and "Boogie Nights": the former's overly lauded, the latter's ignored. I thought "AGAIG" committed the worst sin a movie can commit: it was boring.

Posted by: Samantha T at October 2, 2007 4:11 PM

Jen, me neither. "Crash" was SUCH a piece of shit. My husband is a lot more sanguine than I am about this stuff and he nearly lost his mind when he heard it won Best Picture.

Posted by: Samantha T at October 2, 2007 4:13 PM

The best film of 2003 was neither Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King nor Mystic River. The film that should have won Best Picture for that year was Lost in Translation.

Posted by: Gus at October 2, 2007 4:15 PM

Wsapnin- Goodfellas is my all-time favorite movie- unlike Dances, it just gets better with time, the more you watch it. And I'm also a girl. So go figure.

And yeah, Crash sucked. Except for Dillon. He's hot.

Posted by: Be Adequite! at October 2, 2007 4:20 PM

There are MANY Oscar mistakes for Best Picture. In fact, they have gotten it right maybe 20%-25% of the time, which is generous. The most egregious upset in their history, however, is Crash beating Brokeback Mountain. It is fine for people to prefer Brokeback to Crash, or Crash to Brokeback. Roger Ebert preferred Crash; he is not a bigot (but he is virtually the only major critic in America who did prefer Crash, virtually all others overwhelmingly preferred Brokeback). However, for those of us who call the Academy bigots for selecting Crash, there is a huge amount of evidence. I never previously called
the Academy bigots for denying other films with black or Jewish or gay themes the Oscar, but this was different. The Crash upset over Brokeback Mountain is considered by many film historians to be the biggest and worst in film history for the following reasons:

Please try to forget one's own personal opinion of
Brokeback as you read this (believe it or not, I am, even though I confess I consider Brokeback to be a masterpiece), and consider Oscar history. In its 78 year history, the "best" film of the year has rarely won the Oscar, 10-20 times at best, a poor history. But last year's Best Picture upset was unprecedented, and it happened
for insidious reasons. Brokeback, prior to the Oscars, was the most honored film in movie history for a single year, winning more Best Picture/ Director prizes than any other film ever, including Schindler's List (though admittedly there are more prizes now, but
Brokeback still did slightly better than even that
film when you take Director prizes into account).
Nothing with its combination of critical AND guild
prizes had ever lost. L.A. Confidential swept the
critics' prizes in 1997, but then Titanic's onslaught gave it the Globe, major guilds prizes, and the stage was set for the Oscars. But Brokeback won the Producers, Directors and Writers Guild awards. No film with those 3 had ever lost. Brokeback won the Golden Globe, DGA and had the most nominations. No film with
that combination had ever lost. Brokeback had the New York and Los Angeles Film Critics awards, with the most nominations, again, a trio that had never lost. There are other combos along those lines. And it even won major prizes in Europe, like BAFTA, Venice, ultra- prestigious Sight & Sound's #1 film, etc. I can go on. Just as important, Brokeback was the top box office earner among the nominees and, rated the number 1 box office story of the year among all 2005 films, per major site Box Office Mojo. And,
Brokeback was undeniably a cultural zeitgeist. When you do the math, there is absolutely no way, no how Brokeback should have lost (it's like OJ getting off!). The only other losing film even in Brokeback's league vis-a-vis pre-Oscar
prizes was Saving Private Ryan. But even Ryan didn't have Brokeback's overwhelming dominance at critics' prizes, plus Ryan fell short at the Writers Guild and other screenplay prizes, whereas Brokeback won many, including the Globe, Guild, etc. So what happened???

Shortly after the nominations, I have read that the Academy received a petition signed by 60,000 right wingers stating that they would never watch the Oscars again if "the gay movie" won, and that their friends felt the same. Then, the late night talk shows stepped up the gay jokes, and the film started to become a bit of a joke. Then, Hollywood relics/legends Tony Curtis and Ernest Borgnine each publically stated that neither they nor any of their friends would even see Brokeback, because "John Wayne would roll over in his grave". As an aside, can you imagine the (rightful) outcry there would have been had people said they refused to see the black film, the Jewish film, the hispanic film?

Anyhow, that's when the pundits started saying that perhaps another film would win. Nobody believed them because of the overwhelming dominance of Brokeback, and besides, there was nothing to support. That's when Crash become "the great straight hope". Pundits
like Tom O'Neil who predicted Good Night and Good Luck prior to the Globes gave up on that film, while everyone knew that both Munich and Capote were lucky to be nominated (deserving, but still lucky, most thought Walk the Line would take one of their slots). Crash, which had was not a factor in any major critical races except for the Roger Ebert awards - excuse me - the Chicago Film Critics awards, suddenly won the Actor's Guild Ensemble prize, and suddenly, there was a film to rally behind. Never mind that that ensemble award is NOT a Best Picture prize, past
winners include The Birdcage, The Full Monty, Gosford Park, etc., none of which were remotely serious contenders for the Oscar. At the Oscars, however, 3 performances were nominated from Brokeback, only 1 from Crash, further confirming that SAG voters likely appreciated the huge cast of Crash and supported it as such (plus that video onslaught); Brokeback had a number of important rolls, but really it's a 2-4
person movie, at most; Crash had a solid dozen. But still, Crash got a 69 at metacritic,
a terrible score, the lowest of any nominee (I think since metacritic's inception), and Crash wasn't even nominated for the Golden Globe. Since the Globes started in 1943, every single Oscar winner had at least been nominated for the Globe, with only one exception, The Sting, and supposedly that was on account of category confusion - was Sting a drama or comedy. (I had the same problem with Crash, but it wasn't supposed to be funny). But there was nothing
else, and Lion's Gate mounted an extremely aggressive campaign, giving the anti-Brokebackers - the senior males of the Academy - something to rally behind. People like Ebert (one of only two 100 major national critics who took part in a what should win poll who didn't support Brokeback, the other being a conservative from Kansas City) and Oprah Winfrey chimed in, and instead of condemning Curtis and Borgnine for their blatant homophobia, things became
strangely, shockingly silent in Hollywood re:
Brokeback. Everyone suddenly talked Crash - but NOT for Crash's newly discovered merits (it was the earliest release of all nominees and pretty much a non-event), but because the Academy decided to play it safe, go with politically correct Crash, and cower to blant bigotry. This was not a Warren-is-too-arrogant-so-we'll-pick-Chariots-over-Reds backlash. This was not Harvey Weinstein going door to door (literally) for Shakespeare in Love. This was a blatant act of cowardice by the Academy. There is truly no other explanation, I wish there was, but
there is no way that they suddenly deemed it better when almost everyone else disagreed. The Academy had never been mavericks, the Picture favorite almost always wins. [By the way, this is not meant to chide Ebert & Oprah, they both cited Brokeback as a great film, each genuinely preferred Crash, fair enough, but their
influence was used by others to create the illusion of mediocrely-received Crash as a true contender] I had been an Oscars fanatic since I was 8 years old, saw a list of major winners, and with an odd photographic memory remembered them all. I still do. And, I had disagreed with the Academy's Best Picture choice all but twice in the prior 20 years. But I realized my opinion wasn't the thing: was the Academy being honest? I thought they were. But now, members were admitting they were voting without even watching
all the nominees, the overwhelming slam-dunk
front-runner, because "John Wayne would roll over in his grave". Am I theonly one incredibly offended by that? Gay/straight, black/white, etc., should not matter, we should all be
offended because that is prejudice at its worst. And besides, where is the Academy's credibility if their members aren't forced to watch all nominees before voting, at least in the categories where they vote? Committees are appointed to nominate foreign films and
documentaries, and I agree with that policy since
obviously Academy members are too busy to see every film, whereas committee members commit to do so. It is it too much to ask the Academy to watch their Best Picture nominees, and if they feel they have a personal conflict with one (to put it kindly), to recuse themselves and not vote? And is it too much to ask the Academy to condemn bigotry, in whatever form, from their members? I still cannot believe Brokeback
Mountain lost, although so did Citizen Kane, The
Grapes of Wrath, Raging Bull, Dr. Strangelove, The
Graduate, Goodfellas, Fargo, The Pianist, non-nominees 2001, Vertigo, The Searchers, Singin' in the Rain, Some Like It Hot, City Lights, Touch of Evil, etc. But despite the greatness of these other movies, Brokeback's is the most egregious loss because it was "supposed to win" more than any other ever (playing by the Academy's own rules), because it so deserved the prize - even Paul Haggis said so in Entertainment Weekly ("EW: can anything stop Brokeback?; PH: No, and
nothing should, it's a wonderful film" - good for
Haggis). And it lost because a very large contingent refused to open their minds and hearts, or to even watch it, the antithesis of what an Academy should do. As a crazy avid movie buff, it is painful for me to shut off the Academy after 30 years, but I am done.
It is the right thing to do. I am aware of the
Academy's power, I don't care if my protest is in a vacuum (though am pleased to have discovered so many others who agree). But I hope it's not, because like everyone else, they too are slaves to almighty ratings. If enough people demonstrate they will not tolerate
bigotry and cowardice, perhaps in time they might lose some of their luster. I hope so. Thanks for reading. [P.S. Please forgive the past tense, I first wrote this shortly after the 2005 Oscars, I received a lot of positive feedback so kept it]

Posted by: Jay at October 2, 2007 4:21 PM

Mystic River? Really? When I saw this in the theatre, I came out thinking the same I thought about that horrible In The Bedroom: I've seen that crap before many, many times as cheap TV movies that wouldn't deserve a plot synopsis, let alone an award.

Dances With Wolves beats Goodfellas: This one still hurts: amen to that.

I won't go praising this one or that one over the others, cause we can never count on awards as glorifying or demeaning. You think about great films that "won", it's not hard to see that it doesn't mean anything for them in terms of quality, considering the whole thing is flawed, like your many examples show so well. Those stupid, tacky ceremonies are pointless in essence -- being self-congratulatory is pretty much all they're about. We shouldn't trust any awards as giving us any hints about the quality of the story, the impact of the piece, the amount of work involved or anything, both in deserving as in undeserving cases.

Posted by: gargumma at October 2, 2007 4:29 PM

LotR was great filmmaking. It was an award for the three years, since it's really one film.

How is A Beautiful Mind not on this list? Driving Miss Daisy?

I mean, Rain Man and Forrest Dump and Dances weren't the best films of their year, but they were watchable and still have their defenders and admirers. ABM and DMD were dreck-tacular. Are they going to be remembered as anything but an Academy embarassment?

Ditto whoever was rooting for Crouching Tiger. That was the movie of the year, hands down.

Posted by: Andrew at October 2, 2007 4:30 PM

Wow that ^^^ is one hella LONG comment!!! I gave up halfway through!
Anyway... I normally bow down and agree with the GREATNESS that is Dan, however, I'm going to have to side with the haters of Mystic River on this one. I don't think that LoTR should have won necessarily, but I fully oppose the view that Mystic River should have won. I have no love for that film.
On everything else, though, Dan... I bow down (particularly that whole Goodfellas losing to Dances with Wolves debacle).

Posted by: Lauren at October 2, 2007 4:40 PM

1994 was the year I realized the Oscars were silly and that I should stop using them as a judge of what the year's best film was. It was the first (and still only I think) year I had seen all 5 nominated films before the Oscars. I thought those 3 were way better than Gump and I even thought 4 Weddings was a better comedy. I loved Quiz Show and I was making all my friends see Pulp Fiction for years afterwards.

Posted by: Brian at October 2, 2007 4:43 PM

Although I agree that Raging Bull should have won the Oscar, I'm glad to see some posters standing up for Ordinary People. The performances are extraordinary, the evocation of that time and that place (the North Shore of Chicago) was spot-on, and it avoided a sentimental 'feel-good' ending. I remember seeing it in the theater and having it stay with me for weeks.

Posted by: Louise at October 2, 2007 4:44 PM

Mystic River? But Crash is awful? Seriously?

Not to pile it on, because I agree with nearly all of what Dan wrote, but the praise for Mystic River made me want to feed my cat some tuna in a nice, lightly spiced reduction of my eyeballs. I'm a HUGE Eastwood fan, but Mystic River is to failed mourning and sexual abuse what Crash is to turn of the millenium American racism...a trite, (nearly as) ham-fisted (as LOTR) and poorly acted rendition of its subject so superficial as to be profoundly offensive. I mean, it takes effort to make such a genuinely talented cast turn out such drivel, so poorly. "IS THAT MY DAUGHTER IN THERE?!?" is literally the most poorly delivered line I've seen in any best picture-nominated film of which I can think, and I'm including Titanic.

The idea that it "is going to weather all potential tests of time and go down in history as the one of the most potent modern American films about real people in crisis" is a joke...it boggles my mind that it is still where it is on the netflix rental chart, but I can't imagine that position lasting very long. It takes powerful individual performances to sustain a film into classic status...this didn't even have enough to make it into my dvd collection, and that's not a very high bar.

Posted by: ian at October 2, 2007 4:46 PM

Amanda47 -- just wanted to agree with you about Whoopi in The Long Road Home. When the white husband asks her how she gets to work, and you can see her weighing her pride and honesty against her desire to protect Sissy Spacek... that was real acting.

As much as I love Mississippi Burning, I still think Rain Man was just as good. So many people make the mistake of focusing on Dustin Hoffman when they should be watching Cruise. Charlie is the main character of that movie (just like Red, not Andy, is the main character in Shawshank) because he was the character who was changed by his experiences. He went from a self-absorbed jerk to a guy who truly cared about other people, and if that's a role Cruise has done in practically every movie he's been in, he's never done it better.

I agree about Forrest Gump; the other three were all better. Shawshank, in particular, is perhaps the most moving portrait of friendship I've ever seen.

I still don't hate Titanic, but The Full Monty, Good Will Hunting, and especially L.A. Confidential were better. (I don't know why, but As Good As It Gets never quite worked for me.)

Gladiator? Average at best. Traffic should have won.

Sean Penn has had an interesting career, and I think he's been very good in things like Carlito's Way (he stole that movie) and The Thin Red Line. But he was just trying too hard in Mystic River. As for Return of the King, I understand and accept that some people just don't like the Lord of the Rings movies. But there will never be a more awe-inspiring vision of war than the Battle of Minas Tirith.

I still haven't seen Crash; every time I try I just get annoyed by how ugly everything is.

Posted by: Todd at October 2, 2007 4:47 PM

This is why the Oscars need to operate under a 5 year rule. It would completely do away with the popularity of the film and allow time for the truly great film to emerge,

Posted by: WestCoastPat at October 2, 2007 4:51 PM

Sorry, I meant "The Long Walk Home."

Posted by: Todd at October 2, 2007 4:54 PM

Huge fan of LA Confidential although I knew it was going to get crushed.

One film vs. film I would like to bring up is The English Patient winning over Fargo in 97. I dare anyone to compare the movies and come out in favor of TEP. Thus Fargo, hands down.

Posted by: Blackcapricorn at October 2, 2007 5:02 PM

June wrote: Gotta disagree with Dances With Wolves. I love Goodfellas--and I'm neither a huge Scorcese fan nor a fan of most mob movies--but DWW has not been "forgotten". It's still remembered as the movie that singlehandedly righted decades of disgrace done to Native Americans in film, and as the movie that made westerns relevant again.

June, you are simply wrong when you say that Dances With Wolves "singlehandedly righted decades of disgrace done to Native Americans". Dances With Wolves works to REINFORCE the imperialistic Euro-centric perspective of North American colonization. It is a film that very successfully works to reinforce white European hegemony. How? Well, while the Natives are not shown as being wild, blood-thristy barbarians, they are shown as a noble--but "dying"--"breed". They and their way of life are shown as belonging to the past: as something that cannot go on, because it must (as sad as it is) give way to development, industrialization, modernization, etc. All that is best in the Natives is "passed on" to the noble white man, Kevin Costner. Costner is meant to carry on what is best in the Natives, and all that they have taught him, into the future as the ideal white "American". He will be tough, part of the North American landscape, honourable, loyal, brave, etc. In this way, the Natives are absorbed into the myth of "America" and all that it is supposed to stand for.

Anyhow, on a different note, we definitely need a actors/actresses robbed of an award thread. Cate Blanchett (as Elizabeth) was robbed when she lost to Gwyneth Paltrow (as Viola in Shakespeare in Love).

Posted by: D at October 2, 2007 5:06 PM

I will never, ever, ever tire of hearing Crash lambasted. Can we burn Crash in effigy? Can we start an anti-Crash holiday? Can we sing hymns in honor of the four martyrs to Crash?

I'm right there with you. That was the year I got so angry about the Oscars I may have suffered a stroke, 'cause I can't get excited about them anymore. What won last year? The Departed? Whatevs.

Also, I second the idea of a list of overlooked performances.

Posted by: Ashers at October 2, 2007 5:06 PM

More shoulda beens; they rarely got it right. And I'm not even including eligible foreign language films except in years where they did (all of 8x in 79 years, they are hardly the international body they claim to be...if foreign films were included, then they'd be right maybe 5 times, ever!). Also, these are not so much my personal choices as they are "offical" world cinema choices, based on review of numerous polls, crix sites, film historian sites, etc. For example, personally I would not have given It Happened One Night the award in 1934, but the consensus says that was that year's best (by a nose over The Thin Man and Twentieth Century), so be it. Best listed first, then no order.

1927/28: Sunrise, The General, The Crowd, The Wind over Wings

1929: The Wedding March, Hallelujah over Broadway Melody

1931: City Lights over Cimarron

1932: Love Me Tonight, Trouble in Paradise, Scarface over Grand Hotel

1933: King Kong, Duck Soup over Cavalcade

1935: Top Hat, A Night at the Opera, The 39 Steps, Bride of Frankenstein and The Informer over Mutiny on the Bounty

1936: Modern Times, Fury, Swing Time and many others over The Great Ziegfield

1937: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Make Way for Tomorrow, The Awful Truth and The Good Earth over The Life of Emile Zola

1938: Grand Illusion (since it was nominated), Bringing Up Baby, Adventures of Robin Hood, etc. over You Can't Take It With You

1940: The Grapes of Wrath, The Philadelphia Story, Fantasia, His Girl Friday over Rebecca
1941: Citizen Kane, Maltese Falcon, Lady Eve, etc. over How Green Was My Valley

1942: The Magnificent Ambersons, Sullivan's Travels, To Be or Not to Be, Yankee Doodle Dandy, etc. over Mrs. Miniver (by the way, 1943 winner Casablanca was really a 1942 release, bet it would've lost to wartime biggee Miniver)

1944: Double Indemnity, Miracle of Morgan's Creek, Meet Me in St. Louis,etc. over Going My Way

1945: Brief Encounter, Henry V, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn over Lost Weekend

1946: It's a Wonderful Life, Notorious, My Darling Clementine, Stairway to Heaven over Best Years of Our Lives (though at the time, one can understand why Best Years one, it is still an excellent film, 1946 was a great year)

1947: Great Expectations, Monsieur Verdoux, Odd Man Out, Out of the Past, etc. over Gentleman's Agreement

1948: Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Letter from an Unknown Woman, Red River, Red Shoes, etc. over Hamlet

1949: The Third Man, Gun Crazy, A Letter to 3 Wives, The Heiress, etc. over All the King's Men

1950: Sunset Boulevard over All About Eve (very close, but Sunset almost always does slightly better than Eve in polls)

1951: Streetcar Named Desire, Place in the Sun, African Queen, etc. over An American in Paris

1952: Singin' in the Rain, High Noon, The Quiet Man, etc. over The Greatest Show on Earth (hard to believe people took the Oscars seriously after this)

1953: Shane, Roman Holiday, Band Wagon over From Here to Eternity

1955: Night of the Hunter, Rebel Without a Cause, Bad Day at Black Rock, etc. over Marty

1956: The Searchers, etc. over Around the World in 80 Days. Also unbelievable. It's amazing how many masterpieces they didn't even nominated.

1958: Vertigo and Touch of Evil over Gigi (wow)

1959: Some Like It Hot, North By Northwest, Rio Bravo over Ben-Hur

1960: Psycho over The Apartment (at least Apt. is also outstanding, but Psycho is pretty universally considered better)

1963: Hud, The Great Escape, The Birds over Tom Jones. I said I wouldn't mention foreign films, but 8 1/2 was eligible for Picture, nominated for director & other prizes, yet snubbed for nominees like Cleopatra and How the West Was Won.

1964: Dr. Strangelove, etc. over My Fair Lady

1966: Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, Chimes at Midnight over A Man for All Seasons

1967: Bonnie and Clyde and The Graduate over In the Heat of the Night

1968: 2001: A Space Odyssey & others over Oliver!

1969: The Wild Bunch over Midnight Cowboy

1970: M*A*S*H and Five Easy Pieces over Patton

1971: A Clockwork Orange, The Last Picture Show and McCabe and Mrs. Miller over French Connection

1973: Cries and Whispers (since nominated), American Graffiti, The Exorcist, Last Tango in Paris, Don't Look Now over The Sting

1974: virtual tie between Chinatown and Godfather Part II - at the AFI polls, Chinatown does better, but admittedly the AFI polls mean little, voters include the President, Senators, and Academy members!

1975: Nashville and Barry Lyndon over One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

1976: Taxi Driver, Network and All the President's Men over Rocky

1977: Star Wars over Annie Hall (I really disagree with this but that's how the polling goes). The great Killer of Sheep also does better than Annie Hall in world polls.

1978: Days of Heaven over The Deer Hunter

1979: Apocalypse Now and Manhattan over Kramer vs. Kramer

1980: Raging Bull over Ordinary People (bears repeating, as do all the 8 listed by the author)

1981: Reds, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Atlantic City over Chariots of Fire

1982: Blade Runner, Sophie's Choice, E.T., Tootise, etc. over Gandhi

1983: The Right Stuff and Local Hero over Terms of Endearment (another case where a foreign film was prominent and very eligible but not even nominated, masterpiece Fanny and Alexander)

1984: Once Upon a Time in America over Amadeus

1985: Brazil over Out of Africa

1986: Blue Velvet etc. over Platoon

1988: Mississippi Burning, Dead Ringers, A Cry in the Dark, Unbearable Lightness of Being, etc. over Rain Man

1989: Do the Right Thing, Field of Dreams, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Glory, etc. over Driving Miss Daisy

1990: Goodfellas over Dances with Wolves

[I wouldn't dare say Schindler's List shouldn't have won, but if you look at the 2002 Sight & Sound poll, Jane Campion's The Piano came in higher)

1994: Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, Quiz Show, others over Forrest Gump

1995: Toy Story, Heat, The Usual Suspects, Babe, etc. over Braveheart

1996: Breaking the Waves, Fargo, etc. over The English Patient

1997: LA Confidential over Titanic

1998: Saving Private Ryan and others over Shakespeare in Love

1999: close, but edges to Fight Club, Sixth Sense, Being John Malkovich over American Beauty

2000: Traffic, Crouching Tiger (since nominated), Almost Famous, etc. over Gladiator

2001: Fellowship of the Ring, Mulholland Drive, Gosford Park, Moulin Rouge, Memento and about a dozen others over A Beautiful Mind

2002: The Pianist over Chicago

2003: Lost in Translation, Mystic River and Finding Nemo are all more highly regarded than Return of the King, but the Academy had to right its wrongs

2004: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind over Million Dollar Baby

2005: Brokeback Mountain over Crash

2006: Children of Men, Letters from Iwo Jima over The Departed. And V for Vendetta is already getting a cult following.

As for the years I didn't mention, almost every time one can debate the Academy's wisdom, though I give them the benefit of the doubt. For example, On the Waterfront is probably still considered best of 1954, but Rear Window is on its heels.

Posted by: Jay at October 2, 2007 5:07 PM

Check out MSNBC contributor Erik Lundegaard's excellent article "Oscar misfire: 'Crash' and burn
The Academy takes yet another step toward irrelevance with its latest pick" from March 6, 2006 praising Brokeback, trashing Crash and the Academy, and

Kenneth Turan's excellent article in the LA Times from March 5, 2006, "Breaking no ground
Why 'Crash' won, why 'Brokeback' lost and how the
academy chose to play it safe".

Also, this circulated the net after the 2005 Oscars:

"Which of these events in Crash was the least
plausible?
-PM Farhad fires blanks after Daniel tells his
daughter about the Magic Cloak.
-Officer Ryan saves Christine from the exploding car after molesting her.
-Anthony discovers the Chinese immigrants and saves them.
-Officer Hanson shoots Peter and burns the car.
-Maria is Jean's only friend.
-Officer Hanson happens to save Cameron from getting shot, after Officer Ryan molests his wife.
-The Chinese man survives being run over by Anthony and Peter.
-All of the above."

Posted by: Jay at October 2, 2007 5:12 PM

I not only agree about what was said about mystic river but I always found quite interesting how much, when it was first shown in Cannes, the movie was considered one of the most political and critical of the society structure in the states. But magically when the movie was released everybody seamed to have forgotten about it. I still think that is, with "Gangs of New York", one of the biggest slap in the face of any american citizen. It's quite sad that the most outragious and polemic directors are all so freaking old.

Posted by: rio at October 2, 2007 5:13 PM

I dare anyone to compare the movies and come out in favor of TEP

I'll bite. I love Fargo and own the DVD, but The English Patient is a beautiful epic, well-acted and well-directed, with adventure (albeit it slow-paced), erotic romance, tragic stylings, fantastic cinematography, and a cool gimmick with the flashbacks. The cast is an awesome collection of talent: Juliette Binoche, Kristin Scott Thomas, Naveen Andrews, Willem Dafoe, Ralph Fiennes (back when that meant something), and Colin Firth. Also, you get to see Kristin Scott Thomas naked in a bathtub, which is worth one solid letter grade.

So: They're both great movies, but I give TEP a significant edge.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at October 2, 2007 5:16 PM

Jay, even though you're comment was longer than Dan's Guide, I was still intrigued by some of the things you wrote. I completely remember (but never really noticed at the time) the transition from "epic love story" to "gay cowboy movie (and somewhat of a joke)."

I always felt as though they gave the Best Director award to Ang Lee because they didn't have the balls to give it Best Picture (and Ang Lee, who obviously deserved it).
Though I have learned to deal with my distaste for Haggis, the robbery from Brokeback by the Academy is a greater injustice than the shoddy filmmaking of Crash.

Posted by: citizen_cris at October 2, 2007 5:28 PM

Yeah, Titanic, Gladiator and LotR:RotK were just insulting choices.
My rule of thumb is: the Academy usually gives the Best Script award to what I consider the Best Picture. It's weird, but it almost always works out.

Posted by: Gabrielle at October 2, 2007 5:32 PM

I knew that LotR would be on the list, but I had no idea that it beat out Mystic fucking River.

LoTR bored me, but then again Tolkein bores me, while Mystic River had me sitting there freaking out at the TV, yelling at it, waking up my parents, having my parents walk in, giving me a "talk" about what sort of movies I ought to be watching, me ignoring their lecture (I was seventeen!) and fishing Mystic River out of the "To be returned pile" in order to see who got killed at the end.

And it got beat by LoTR?

I've also grown to accept that Foreign Films is usually not that great... but there are so many out there I guess it's semi-understandable. I also always look at who got nominated for acting. If it's not a retarded character I usually look into the movie to see why they got nominated. I'm also usually there to see if Peter O'Toole should have been beaten by them.

Posted by: the maljax at October 2, 2007 5:36 PM

Sweet cracker sandwich Jay. Get your own blog.

Todd- thanks for the backup. Not a great movie but I thought Whoopi was very good.

My point, people, is that "Do the Right Thing" wasn't even NOMINATED. It lost before that night. Zip Zilch Nada...

Posted by: Amanda47 at October 2, 2007 5:39 PM

I'm so glad the majority of the people here don't like Mystic River. The movie made me so ANGRY..I hardly ever feel like I wasted time watching any movie--and I wanted to do anything to get those two hours I lost in my life.

Posted by: Bettie at October 2, 2007 5:49 PM

I've held out for ten years to not see "Titanic." Sometimes I think I should just so I know what people are talking about, but with all the spoofs and references, who really needs to?

I'm still miffed "Stranger Than Fiction" didn't even get a screenplay nomination. That movie's so touching and intricate, and how wonderful it was to see Will Farrel play understated and human rather than overblown and cartoon.

Posted by: minorblue at October 2, 2007 6:04 PM

I had seen almost all the Oscar nominated films in 2005 except for Crash and Capote. After Crash won, I made the point of watching it because Brokeback, Goodnight and Munich had been so stunning, and I was utterly horrified by the ultimate choice. I still haven't watched Capote because it would probably induce yet another "why did Crash win?!" rant from me that no one wants to hear. You always manage to sum up exactly why I hate certain movies Dan, and you've done it yet again with your concise and ripping description of Crash. I don't say this enough, but I totally love your reviews man.

Posted by: Allison at October 2, 2007 6:34 PM

What I do give Crash credit for is this very pseudo-racism everyone complains about. Racism isn't just the broad strokes, but the slight nuances that slowly pick at your self-image and esteem. I'd delve into this further, but I don't want to pull a Jay .

That being said, it's still way overrated.

Like the other poster, Forrest Gump got my boomer parents talking to me about their lives. The thought of that after-movie dinner still makes me tear up. Best Picture, no. But personally significant, yes.

That's the inherent problem with these awards: they are highly subjective. There is no rubric for awarding the "best whatever", no points system to tally or data to collect. These awards will always depend upon opinions rather than fact. So take the 'winners' with a grain of salt.

Posted by: ciji at October 2, 2007 6:35 PM

Minorblue--Do not see Titanic. I am still fuming about those two hours I will never get back.

And Forrest Gump??!?!?!
Oy, don't ask.

Posted by: Fabiola Thing at October 2, 2007 6:39 PM

wait, people don't all agree on what movies deserve which awards? The SHOCK.

that said, screw Shawshank Redemption, it wasn't bad or anything but like 1984 everyone jumps on that bandwagon like fucking lemmings.

Posted by: Andrew831 at October 2, 2007 6:42 PM

wait, people don't all agree on what movies deserve which awards? The SHOCK.

that said, screw Shawshank Redemption, it wasn't bad or anything but like 1984 everyone jumps on that bandwagon like fucking lemmings.

Posted by: Andrew831 at October 2, 2007 6:42 PM

"Mystic River wallowed in the deep places of the soul; The Return of the King skated right over them, trading the spare, almost tender, way that Tolkien crafted his characters for a slick, overly produced, ham-fisted drama that's about as subtle as being struck in the back of the head by an actual copy of The Lord of the Rings."


Begging your pardon, but have you read the Lord of the Rings books? There's nothing tender or spare, really, about Tolkien's character development. He uses them like tools to advance the story. They're mythic archetypes -- not babies.


I think you came up with that terrible comparison in order to have a comparison. That weakened your argument for me. Or, actually, would have if I was on the fence about Mystic River.


Mystic River is a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad movie. Blech.

Posted by: Mike B. at October 2, 2007 6:43 PM

Good list. You make a lot of excellent points about the increasingly-irrelevant Academy. It stopped being about the pictures a long time ago, and became an excuse for the attractive, effete elite to show off their boobs/abs/hairstyles/latest fashions.

Ordinary people vs Raging Bull- You were absolutely correct in every detail.

Rain Man vs Mississippi Burning- Once again, lousy choice by the Academy.

Dances With Wolves vs Goodfellas- There ain't no justice. I never thought much of Goodfellas (except for DeNiro- for whom I am willing to forgive a multitude of sins), but I walked out of the theater during Kevin Costner Chews The Scenery.

Forrest Gump vs Any Damned Movie At All- A total write-off. Gump shouldn't have beaten Bambi vs Godzilla, much less be mentioned as a contender in any venue which included Shawshank. Any of your three alternates would have beaten Gump if there was any probability that quality could trump ... well, crap.

Titani ... GAH! I can't even type the name, I hate this movie so much. I almost puked all over my keyboard. If there were a just and loving God, the Apocalypse would have started before this abomination was inflicted upon the Earth. Anything- even the schlockiest of Grade Z movies from the depths of Joe Bob Briggs' cheap reels- would have been a better choice. I didn't think any of the alternates for the Best Picture award were worthy (although Full Monty was pretty good), but they were better than the actual winner.

Gladiator vs Traffic- Good call on your part. "Hmmm. What should we vote for? The last remake of Demetrius and the Gladiators or a thought-provoking film about the drug trade? Oh well. I always had a thing for Victor Mature, so lets go for the Swords-and-Sandals epic."

LOTR vs Mystic River- I'll take your word on this one. I haven't seen either one (unless watching the YouTube video of Led Zeppelin's Battle of Evermore grafted over ROTK counts). I couldn't bear to watch the last two LOTR movies after the crushing disappointment of the first one. "Hey, Hemingway! What happened to the story? If I wanted nice visuals, I'd watch some drekh by George Lucas!"

Crash vs Brokeback Mountain, Capote, Munich, & Good Night and Good Luck- I don't think you showed enough outrage over this travesty of artistic integrity. Any of the four alternates was a better movie than Crash. The only one I actually liked was Good Night and Good Luck, but I could appreciate the merits of the other three without actually liking them. Crash substituted dumb for merit- but the Academy seems to like dumb.

I'm beginning to wonder if the Academy has fallen into a Douglas Adams-esque nightmare where all the decisions are being made by a single individual who is either hopelessly insane or a drooling imbecile- perhaps both.

Posted by: wenchmaster at October 2, 2007 6:43 PM

I fucking HATE Titanic. That movie is an overblown, CGI-clusterfuck of "emotion" and "beauty". A Bay/Bruckheimer movie has triggered more emotion in me than that horrendous movie. Anything other than James Cameron's masturbatory lovefest to himself would have been better than this shite. Good Will Hunting is still one of my favorite movies. Yes, it really was Robin Williams' best performance of his entire career.

Goodfellas I completely agree on. That is one of the best movies ever and simply awesome.

I like Forrest Gump, but I will say that it was not the best movie that year. Also, thanks for someone remembering the wonderful A River Runs Through It. I love that movie. It makes me cry every damned time.


Great list. I still see no way in hell that Shakespeare in Love should have won over the fantastic Saving Private Ryan. Everything else I agree on.

Posted by: Melody at October 2, 2007 6:46 PM

"Mystic River" sucked. Sean Penn's performance was painfully over the top and Laura Linney's bizarre Lady Macbeth moment at the end was ridiculous. Maybe "sucked" is too strong, but all the love the academy gave it was ridiculous. "Return of the King" deserved to win because "Fellowship" was passed over.

The only film that should have compared to "Titanic" is "LA Confidental". I don't get nominating comedies. I liked "The Full Monty", I liked "As Good As it Gets". I liked them, didn't love them. "LA Confidential" has taken a while to grow on me and it is a hell of a great film. But the spectacle of "Titanic" wins out for me.

Where's the outrage against "Shakespeare in Love"? Personally I'd put "Elizabeth" over both "Shakespeare" and "Private Ryan".

Posted by: Rob at October 2, 2007 6:58 PM

My shining moment of anger at the Academy all lies in Gladiator.

When I first saw it I thought it fell into the category of "So Bad It's Good." My friend and I laughed our asses off in the theater at how bad it was. We left thinking, well that was fun, and entirely forgettable.

When I saw that it was nominated for so many awards I thought, "You must be joking." But then when it won so many, my naive belief that the awards actually went to those who deserved them was thrown straight out the window.

And people still try to argue with me that Gladiator was not only a good film, but a great film that deserved it's Oscars. I never can decide between breaking down laughing at them, or punching them in the face.

Posted by: Bistro at October 2, 2007 6:58 PM

I'll agree that its popularity is not a compelling reason to dislike "The Shawshank Redemption", but it's also the same reason *I've* never felt like watching it. Through the years I've simply gotten sick of its reputation and never been intrigued by its plot. I can't hate it, because I've never seen it, I just don't care.

But hype can certainly squelch my ardor for anything too and I'll avoid it out of spite, as well as caution. It's nearly never anywhere near as good to me as to everyone else.

And "L.A. Confidential"'s loss *was* a damn shame. What an enjoyable movie.

Posted by: Jay at October 2, 2007 7:01 PM

Mystic River is one of the most miserable films I've ever seen. It's just an exercise in mindless emotional manipulation. It was a joke. Sean Penn was a cartoon in that movie. Ugh ugh ugh.

Posted by: Squarah at October 2, 2007 8:02 PM

Minorblue -- DO see Titanic. What the hell, just rent (or Netflix) the DVD. If you hate it, just turn it off.

The first hour or so is a pretty long set-up and you could probably skip it. But you gotta see the destruction and sinking of the ship (pausing here to recognize that thousands of people actually died on the Titanic, so not saying we shouldn't be sad at that pointless loss of life). I think it's well-done. When that thing breaks in half... damn. And you get to see Leo DiCaprio die, if that's at all tempting. And it's closer to 3 hours long.

Posted by: LL at October 2, 2007 8:13 PM

I was with you until 2003. (Although, to be fair, I haven't seen a lot of the earlier movies.)

Um, have you read Lord of the Rings? The characters have personalities of sea urchins. Tolkien wrote the books as a way to set the stage for the languages he was inventing so the characters, and especially their dialog, is an afterthought. I thought Jackson did a wonderful job of fleshing out their emotions. True it's a bit broad but so is Sean Penn screaming about his dead daughter. I've seen more nuanced grief-stricken reactions on Law and Order.

I'm a totally biased Ringer I guess. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Posted by: Christin at October 2, 2007 8:19 PM

unless watching the YouTube video of Led Zeppelin's Battle of Evermore grafted over ROTK counts

I am so going to need the link for this

Posted by: Brian at October 2, 2007 8:20 PM

Oh. And I like Gladiator. But I minored in classical history so I have to like it. It's a distribution requirement.

Posted by: Christin at October 2, 2007 8:21 PM

Don't think I've seen a poster dump on "Traffic," so I'll go ahead. It was soap opera TV-movie-of-the-week cliche (the drug czar's daughter has a drug problem?), and one thing nobody much mentions: When it ended, bluntly (no pun intended), it was just getting interesting. I hold it in about the same regard most of you hold "Crash," which is one of the few movies that was so dumb it actually pissed me off.

Posted by: bucdaddy at October 2, 2007 8:27 PM

Don't think I've seen a poster dump on "Traffic," so I'll go ahead. It was soap opera TV-movie-of-the-week cliche (the drug czar's daughter has a drug problem?), and one thing nobody much mentions: When it ended, bluntly (no pun intended), it was just getting interesting. I hold it in about the same regard most of you hold "Crash," which is one of the few movies that was so dumb it actually pissed me off.

Posted by: bucdaddy at October 2, 2007 8:27 PM

One film vs. film I would like to bring up is The English Patient winning over Fargo in 97. I dare anyone to compare the movies and come out in favor of TEP. Thus Fargo, hands down.

Fargo > A pile of dog shit > The English Patient

Posted by: TL at October 2, 2007 9:03 PM

The fundimental problem with awards shows of all types is the decision makers, pure and simple. The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences?!? Who the f'ing hell is that? And why do I get the idea that 95% of the voting memebers may have gotten, or wanted to get, into Mary Pickford's petticoats? It's been proven, on many more occasions than the 10 listed above, that the Oscars has it's collective head so far up it's own ass they can see what they had for breakfast.

So what's the solution? You guessed it....the People's Choice Awards!! The only problem with that is that the "people" are, by and large, a bunch of morons. Or at the very least, teenagers who think that Dane Cook was hilarious in Employee of the Month, and vote 146 times each for it. And in the end, the results are even worse than the Oscars...although at least they didn't vote for jack shit for Crash. A video showing Paul Haggis nutting himself on a railing attempting a skateboard trick maybe, but Crash, no....Come to think of it, I would vote for that too, but only if Haggis' supposed brain got splattered all over the sidewalk at the same time (Sorry, couldn't resist a Haggis slag)

So in the end, why bother with any awards shows anyway? If you need a TV show to tell you what movies to see, you are far too stupid to go see anything good in the first place. Maybe without those shows, that annoying couple from the suburbs who whisper questions to each other (who invariably end up sitting right in from of you) won't make you think evil thoughts in the middle of Children of Men...

Posted by: Scott at October 2, 2007 9:19 PM

Maybe someone has already brought this one up. But, I think there should be a "Songs That Shouldn't Have Won Best Original Song" list because I still can't get over the fact that Three Six Mafia won for their song.

And every fucking time some person tells me how much more they preferred "Crash" to "Brokeback Mountain" because you know "Crash" was waay more interesting and delt with grittier material, I look for my weapon of opportunity, which generally is a stiletto shoe. The bitterness that I harbor against the academy for awarding best picture to fucking "Crash" runs deep. It runs deep.

On a side note, "Gladiator" was the first time that I actually was hoping the evil guy would win. Yeah, Joaquin Phoenix was just fucking smoldering in that movie.

Brilliant work, as always!

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at October 2, 2007 9:32 PM

It would be nice if they had a "none of the above" option when the academy votes for best movies,actors, actresses, etc because some years all of the movies that were nominated were tedious, odious or odiferous, in my humble opinion. It might lend some legitimacy to the awards and would save on really long speeches of people who don't really deserve to win. And the award goes to... none of the above. Ah-sah!

Posted by: pongoo pongoo at October 2, 2007 9:38 PM

I agree with Daniel on almost all points except the review of Ordinary People. I loved it- yes it is claustrophobic and slow-paced, but I think that's the point. I loved Raging Bull, but for me it was one great film vs. another.

Posted by: demondoll at October 2, 2007 9:44 PM

Never seen Titanic.

Did anyone really feel that the two leads in Brokeback were in love? Because... that was really the missing element for me. I just never saw that their attachment went far beyond the physical, and the movie hinged on this "great love". It was like watching a really quiet version of The Notebook, with a gay couple. *shrugs*

Posted by: majandra at October 2, 2007 9:59 PM

My biggest gripe was when Chicago beat The Hours (and every other film nominated that year). CHICAGO??? Are you serious? My theory was that the year before, the academy had been too scared to give it to a musical like Moulin Rouge, so when there was another musical nominated the next year they latched onto it. So really, it's a nod to both musicals.

I have a visceral hatred of Chicago.

We really REALLY need an actors/actresses who were robbed thread, and it would be kicked off by Cate Blanchett's Elizabeth losing to Gywenth Paltrow's crap; and Russel Crowe's A Beautiful MInd performance losing to Denzel.

I also have a visceral hatred of Gwyneth winning an Oscar.

Posted by: JJ McCLay at October 2, 2007 10:06 PM

What I do give Crash credit for is this very pseudo-racism everyone complains about. Racism isn't just the broad strokes, but the slight nuances that slowly pick at your self-image and esteem.

Exactly, ciji.

Posted by: Daphne at October 2, 2007 10:10 PM

"he abused the power he has a filmmaker to create something complex and tough and challenging and good and instead funneled into something tawdry and exaggerated and stereotypical and embarrassing."

A-to-the-MEN Dustin. I work for a mortgage company, and underwrote his daughter's loan. She works for him. I wanted to write her a letter about how much her dad sucks at writing, and that he should stop. Maybe now I'll just send her this. XOXO

[I'm Dan, not Dustin. But I appreciate the sentiment. --DC]

Posted by: FullertonRegan at October 2, 2007 10:30 PM

Rain Man was based on a real person who Hoffman spent a lot of time studying to get into his character. Because of that movie the true "Rain Man" completely changed and learned how to interact with people and actually lectures and teaches people about his disability and his crazy abilities. Before that he was a social recluse. May not have been the best story line and I hate Tom Cruise but it deserves an award for that.

Posted by: N. at October 2, 2007 10:36 PM

Rocky beat fucking Network and Taxi Driver!

Posted by: Tim at October 2, 2007 10:57 PM

I love Ordinary People. Yes, it's about white people. And yes, it's about affluent white people. But that doesn't mean it's not every bit as "gritty" as "Raging Bull." To some extent, I think it's sexist to suggest that movies involving stereotypically "feminine" subject matters- like family or love- are less realistic, less powerful than those about stereotypically masculine subject matters- violence and death. What's more realistic than a family falling apart? Mary Tyler Moore, Donald Sutherland and Timothy Hutton all give fantastic performances. Moreover, this is one of the few movies I've seen that gets the impulse to self-injury palpably right.

Posted by: MCG at October 2, 2007 11:17 PM

I can't believe Crash beat all those out. That was a year I saw all the nominated movies except Crash, it sucked BALLS!

Posted by: ph at October 2, 2007 11:21 PM

Don't agree with them all, but in my mind the last 10 years have seen two movies I thought were just terrible win the Oscar: Shakespeare in Love, and more recently The Departed. Shakespeare was cutesy & frivolous, while The Departed was a mess...did they even employ an editor? Every scene with Jack went on about five minutes too long!

Posted by: seth at October 2, 2007 11:49 PM

Sweet God. If I have to read one more spewing rant about how shitty Crash is, I may just stop taking Pajiba seriously. Sure, it robbed those other films of the Oscar. Sure, it's heavy-handed and melodramatic. Is it the worst movie in the world? Absolutely not.

Instead of "Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People", your tag line should be, "Scathing Reviews of Crash...over...and over...and over..."

Please. Talk about something else. ANYTHING ELSE.

Posted by: Brianne at October 3, 2007 12:30 AM

Sorry, but this particular thread is about movies that shouldn't have won Best Picture. The worst film to ever win is Crash, especially since it beat the great Brokeback Mountain. Even if you are not a huge Brokeback fan, see the long post by Jay above for the many reasons why the Academy no longer deserves your time for choosing, or worse, for not choosing Brokeback. It is also interesting to see the year by year list of great films that lost to lesser movies. After Citizen Kane lost, that should have been it for the Academy!

Posted by: Bette at October 3, 2007 12:38 AM

Word. Black movies that should have been nominated:
Do the Right Thing (direction, original screenplay, movie)
Malcolm X (actor, adapted screenplay)
The Color Purple (actors all, adapted screenplay, director, picture)

and if they weren't nominated (I forget):
Angela Bassett & Larry Fishbourne for What's Love Got To Do With It


Black actors that SHOULD NOT have been nominated:
Halle Berry (Monster's Ball)
Denzel Washington (Training Day)
Morgan Freeman (Driving Miss Daisy)
Whoppi Goldberg (Ghost)
Will Smith (Ali/Pursuit of Happyness)

Did anyone really feel that the two leads in Brokeback were in love? Because... that was really the missing element for me.

Word. Like Monster's Ball the relationship was all about the sex.

Posted by: ciji at October 3, 2007 2:15 AM

You had me till the Mystic River. What the fuck, seriously? Are we talking about the same thing? It was such crap, the sort of thing you'd watch on Lifetime or TNT if you were home sick with a flu and it would cheer you up some by just being so laughably baaaad, like the Judith Light one with the daughter, but then you can't really finish watching it because it takes itself SO goddamned seriously that it stops being funny bad and becomes nauseating bad, and then your fever turns to a homicidal rage dulled only by the NyQuil and Jagermeister cocktails you've been quaffing just to stay alive.
Ugh. But socalled, you made me snort out loud, as usual. I was gonna quote some of your rant, but then couldn't even choose which vitriolic nugget to use, as I loved them all equally, but...yeah. Mystic fucking River.
(full disclosure: I live in New Orleans, so I have a very special hatred for Sean Penn)

Posted by: isabelle at October 3, 2007 3:23 AM

Mystic River? Nah. Penn and Robbins acting like they've got the smell of Oscar in their nostrils. A film with no real emotion whatsoever. Kevin Bacon walked away with that film, not least because he was the only member of the cast that didn't appear to be performing (Fishburne excepted, to a lesser extent). Of the nominated films that year, Lost In Translation was maybe the best. But wasn't that the year of In America, which didn't even get nominated? Now *that* was a crime.

Posted by: Craig at October 3, 2007 4:20 AM

This is quite interesting, but I will never understand the adoration extended to Shawshank Redemption - a film so shlocky, ugly and predictable, it makes me feel angry just to think about.
This is a dirty, nasty movie masquerading as a liberal, heart-warming liberal film - much like the awful Green Mile. The rapist Prison Warden apparently deserves all the evils in the world, and we're supposed to thrill to see him beaten up? Nice! And the horrible music, and the nasty overhead shot of Tim Robbins in the rain! And Morgan Freeman's five minute long 'For your consideration' monologue about becoming a better man is just so painful, full of cliche and self-help manual style cod-pyschology. Oh, and that whole thing about leaving a note for his friend under a beautiful tree in the middle of a beautiful field! And that stupid 'will Morgan Freeman follow the dull pattern of that guy who had exactly the same job and exactly the same apartment and hang himself?' cliffhanger. Give me a break. What a horrible movie.

Posted by: Thompson Twin at October 3, 2007 5:25 AM

Coincidentally, the #1 local radio station in DC ran a call-in poll yesterday for Best Movie Ever Made. The winner? Forrest FREAKIN' Gump! Moreover, "Casablanca" did not even make it into the top five. Ahem, tells you all you need to know about the ability of the senile members of the "Academy" to nevertheless accurately gauge the culpability of their audience.

And majandra, Did you actually see "Brokeback Mountain"? You did not see the love between Jack and Ennis? Why else did they ruin their lives and those of the people around them if not for a compulsive and yet taboo love? Please read Jeremy's review for Pajiba. It is not only the best review written for this site but one that captures the essence of what is truly a cinematic masterpiece because it shows so clearly the destructive power of love unable to be expressed.

Posted by: rudy at October 3, 2007 7:12 AM

Brian- Here's the link:

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2007/09/led_zeppelin_and_the_lord_of_the_rings_t.php

If you have trouble with it, go to www.fark.com, go to the video archives, and then go to the archive from 23Sep07. The headline says, "Led Zeppelin Meets Lord of the Rings, and I think it's the fourth or fifth link from the top.

Posted by: wenchmaster at October 3, 2007 7:21 AM

I agree with every film on the list, some of the drek that gets through because it reduced a few hundred grannies or big soppy girls to tears is shocking.
I have to admit, the very first time i saw Titanic i shed a few tears, but not at the insult of a love story threading through it, i cried over the tragedy of the real event, the memory of those lost people.
THe fact that some one even thought people could only relate to such a tragedy if there whre two unlikeable leads to 'relate to' and 'root for' is a fucking insult in and of its self, then to have both these leads be such...'aaargh' worthy morons...fucks sake.

My only gripe is with Gladiator, i agree easily that it damn sure didnt deserve to win an oscar and Russel Crowe DAMNED sure didnt deserve best actor for his 'performance' given that all he did was grit at people then DIE- But why doesnt any one ever mention the travesty of Joaquin Phoenix not getting his much deserved props for his performance in that film.
His performance outshines everyones in that film but people just go 'ooooh Russell!!!' and quotes that god awful line again 'Moi name is maximus...' SHUT UP ALREADY!!!

Posted by: nadine at October 3, 2007 8:09 AM

Good list, but the only one I can really disagree with is Return of the King...in my opinion that earned it, especially if you read Mystic River before seeing it. I love Eastwood's movies and all, but that one I just couldn't get into after reading Dennis Lehane's novel. I'll admit I never read ROTK, or any of the LOTR books, but the films were pretty astonishing in depth and Return just validated all the setup the first two films established.
It was the payoff of payoffs, a big thank you to anyone who could sit through two three plus hour films and still be awake and following the plot, and I think that's a pretty good reason to be rewarded. (Again, purely opinion. I'll make no illusions that mine is better than yours...I thought Snakes on a Plane was fun.)
Nevertheless, I'm glad someone else acknowledged that Crash was a pretty shitty pick for best picture, and that is the ultimate victory here. (Anyone else think the Academy made up for it by naming The Departed best picture?)

Posted by: Mike at October 3, 2007 8:37 AM

I'll go with you on most of these but Mississippi Burning is the same kind of self congratulatory pap that you accuse Crash of being. A heart warming movie for white folks who want to believe they were the driving force in the civil rights movement. Not so much.

Posted by: khia213 at October 3, 2007 8:47 AM

I hated As Good As It Gets. Spunky little working class girls do not look like Helen Hunt. Think giant butts and contrived hair

Posted by: Arkansan at October 3, 2007 9:39 AM

munich was a bad movie. its elevated, melodramatic and full of that stupid terrorism-is-a-threat-aren't-we-really-the-poorest-things-on-the-planet sentiment.
plus the sex scene and the camera lingering on the wtc was just pathetic.
steven spielberg is an egocentric idiot for taking an actuall historical event and making into another self-aggrandizing "project about his roots and modern problems we face".
ugh that movie makes me furious

Posted by: Cap at October 3, 2007 10:49 AM

Thank you wenchmaster (there's a phrase I don't use to often). Started the clip and 3 seconds in I was nodding my head along with the rif - something I don't do to often at work.

Very cool. Thanks

Posted by: Brian at October 3, 2007 10:49 AM

Jay--That whole "John Wayne would spin in his grave" argument STILL chaps my ass. John Wayne's real name was Marion Michael Morrison and he hated horses. He was married three times and he cheated on all of them notably with Marlene Deitrich and HIS SECRETARY of all people. While he was a conservative republican, he was also a serious pain the ass to work with. The reality of the man is HARDLY the wholesome cow-poke image people try to convey. Yeah. He would spin in his grave. But not because the image of the Wholesome American West was destroyed. He would rotisserie himself because he was, at heart, an uber conservative like the rest of the uber conservatives afraid of anything outside of the For-The-Bible-Tells-Me-So rhetoric.

And Titanic--it was a decent flick. Not Oscar worthy, certainly. But it was a good chick flick. However, I still maintain both Rose and Jack could have fit on that headboard. Jack was sacrificed for the story and we all saw that coming, so my big beef is that they didn't kill him off sooner.

As to Gweneth Paltrow winning for Shakespeare in Love--I'll never get over that one. I think she's a seriously overrated actress.

Sorry for the longish post.

Posted by: Scarlett at October 3, 2007 10:50 AM

Personally, I'm always up for a good "Crash"-bashing. Never gets old. Perhaps there should be a separate site. Is Crashbash.com available? Seriously, "cheap, unclever and almost offensive in the haphazard way it pretends to talk about real issues." That's good! Why didn't I think of that when I tried to explain to my husband and brother and best friend why I hated it? I think I just sputtered, "but it was so fucking stupid!" I need a daily tutorial so I can adequately articulate my disgust that such a film would be deemed worthy of the highest laurel the American film industry can offer, symbolizing the many other deeply flawed products and people which are given utterly undue praise/patronage in this world (George Bush, Dane Cook, Hummers, etc).

Posted by: genuflecked at October 3, 2007 11:10 AM

Forgot a couple

1952 -- The Greatest Show on Earth won over High Noon

1964 --My Fair Lady over Dr. Strangelove

Posted by: Adam C at October 3, 2007 11:28 AM

I will always love Forest Gump, I own it on VHS and DVD and I still watch it EVERY time it comes on T.V. I am also a rabid Steven King fan, so that match up is the only one I feel strongly about. But I still think the Academy got it right.
I think people relate to some movies more personally therefore it still comes down to personal taste, doesn't it?

Posted by: Joy at October 3, 2007 12:02 PM

Reality Check:
As Dustin pointed out, the awards have long been given out 'pon occasion to crowd pleaser movies first and artistic films second (if at all.) The damn awards were created in the first place by Louis B. Mayer as a meaningless sparkly trinket to mesmerize and tame actors, writers and directors that he and the other studio heads were trying to keep from unionizing or leaving the nest. These things were created to protect commerce, not celebrate art. Even so, over the years many films that were artistically the best won the prize, and although it pisses me off when boomer flicks like FOREST GUMP beat out all that other gold, I also understand that this was, is and always will be the reality of the Oscar system. Created for a cynical reason, it still manages to give the right pat on the back sometimes. But with the understanding of what the awards are really celebrating (popcorn movies and art flicks), I'm often okay when a big movie wins over an artsy film...as long as the artsy film wasn't a true masterpiece (fucking hammered-shit ENGLISH PATIENT), and the big movie wasn't absolute shite (see the celluloid sewage TITANIC).

1 ORDINARY PEOPLE is a good flick, primarily for Tim Hutton's great performance (the only good performance of his crappy career). But RAGING BULL is one of the best films ever made and whenever someone criticizes it my ears shut down and I start humming "If I only Had a Brain". DeNiro's performance may be the best performance anyone ever put on film (although Anthony Hopkins in REMAINS OF THE DAY is sheer genius.) More importantly, DeNiro's performance proves that, much as we make fun of it, sometimes the Method works, big time.

2. RAIN MAN vs MISSISSIPPI BURNING. I agree that RAIN MAN is not a brilliant flick and that Dustin Hoffman's performance is no big deal and a classic example of the "I played a challenged/fat/blind/mute/schizophrenic/autistic/fill-in-your-physical-condition character and should automatically win an Oscar syndrome". That said, it's an entertaining, funny movie and worth the trip to the theater. Oscar worthy, maybe not. MISSISSIPPI BURNING, however, falls under the "artistic but not masterpiece catagory" however and definitely wasn't worth best picture. I saw, loved the theme and subject, wanted to love the film but it left me absolutely cold. Just because you make a film about an important subject doesn't mean you've made a great film. They didn't, it wasn't.

3. DANCES WITH WOLVES vs GOODFELLAS.
Amen! I liked DWW the first time I saw. Couldn't sit through it again. GOODFELLAS, on the other hand is a goddam masterpiece I've seen a zillion times. Scorcese robbed again.

4. FOREST GUMP vs everyone else.
Again, right on the money. No way it beats PULP FICTION or SHAWSHANK, but we all know the reason SHAWSHANK lost is because it had the worst frigging title in film history and people stayed away in droves because of that stupid title. If they'd called anything else it might have had a chance (and made some money.)

5. TITANIC vs et al.
Right again. LA CONFIDENTIAL was one of the only film noirs made in the last twenty years that's even watchable, let alone brilliant and GOOD WILL HUNTING, I think, is one of the best flicks of the last twenty years, period. TITANIC should have gone where its victims went. To the bottom of the deepest ocean.

6. GLADIATOR vs TRAFFIC.
GLADIATOR was a big, bloated action flick. Fun and forgettable. It was a shoo-in. TRAFFIC was brilliant and too arty to win. Standard Oscar year.

7. LOTR vs MYSTIC RIVER.
I loved THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING, which was as close as anyone could ever hope to get of realizing Tolkien on film without making a twenty hour "film-poem" and boring us all to death. It was visually stunning, entertaining as hell, and exciting from beginning to end. I'm sure it sold more Tolkien books than were sold in the twenty years preceding it, which can only be a good thing. My wife, no big sci-fi/fantasy fan, thought it was the best popcorn movie since STAR WARS and RAIDERS. If it had won the Oscar I would have said 'Amen'. RETURN OF THE KING, however, was endless and overwrought, the fruits of a really talented director being given free rein to leave his film as long as he wanted regardless of its boredom factor. "Fellowship" was great because he made the hard choices in the editing room that he needed to make to keep the untried film to a marketable length and pace. Once it broke the bank, he no longer had that constraint and we all paid the price. Even so, Hollywood has famously never awarded a best picture award to a sci-fi or fantasy film, no matter how popular or well made; GONE WITH THE WIND is a masterpiece, but WIZARD OF OZ certainly could have taken the prize too. ANNIE HALL is Woody Allen's best film, but STAR WARS changed cinema (for better and worse) and absolutely should have won the award for what it meant to the industry, the genre, the population, etc. 2001: A SPACE ODDYSSEY was probably more important than any film made in its year too, but never had a chance either. So when RETURN won over MYSTIC it was, to me, Hollywood's long overdue recognition not of Peter Jackson but of 100 years of masterwork sci-fi/fantasy films that were always overlooked and ignored. It was an award not for RETURN but for all three Rings movies and for Jackson's achievement in bringing the entire epic to the screen. Besides, Clint already had his Oscar for UNFORGIVEN and got one next year for MILLION DOLLAR BABY. This was Hollywood politics working the right way for once at the Oscars. MYSTIC was a better film, but Jackson's achievement (and a vast history of fantasy flicks behind him) deserved their day in the sun at long last. Think of it as a "Lifetime Achievement Award" for an entire snubbed genre. One that probably started movies (TRIP TO THE MOON) and certainly changed it a million times over.

8. CRASH vs All Comers.
I thought BROKEBACK should have won. It's one of the best love stories ever put on screen and was a masterpiece without question. MUNICH was great, but not of that caliber. CAPOTE was a well made art flick, but are any of us losing sleep over it losing. Nah. GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK was a great film and an important film and a great F You to the current administration's insanity, but this was a year of truly great movies and it's narrow focus made sure it never had a chance. Now here is where I get burned in effigy and my comments are erased and stricken from the records for all eternity: I loved CRASH. I don't give a crap what you say, it's a great flick. It's heavy-handed, etc. but its powerful and sad and moving. If Pajiba can tout a cloying, obvious melodrama like CINDERELLA MAN as deserving of best picture, then the constant evisceration of CRASH seems silly to me. Self-important, yes, overdone, yep, but still a well-made film with good performances and some great scenes. And MILLION DOLLAR BABY, despite its endless third act, was also a great flick that probably deserved to that Oscar too. Hilary Swank was fantastic in that part and to dismiss it is nonsensical. The narration is heavy-handed and self-important again, but it's still a damn good movie at a time when big studio pictures are rarely any good at all. And when Haggis writes another "important" film, I'll line up for that too, just like Vinny Chase chasing that part in "Medellin". Haggis is talented, even if much of what he does seems heavyhanded, etc. Are you guys watching all the other films coming out of the studios? There is a long running campaign on this site to have Paul Haggis and his movies eradicated from the planet, yet I haven't seen this same level of collective Pajiba rage focused as constantly on far more important crimes like the entire genre of torture/splatter flicks that have infested every goddam multiplex in the country for the past two years. A little perspective is all I'm saying. Haggis ain't Scorcese, but he's not the director of SAW II either. Anywho, BROKEBACK still got robbed.

Lastly, I just have to repeat what several others have already mentioned because it makes me so insane. SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE was twaddle!! Best Picture!? That should have been a Made-for-LIFETIME movie or something Oprah was producing. YEEUCK! I know it's a comedy and lighthearted, etc., but there is one thing I can't get over. This is the first major film ever to show Shakespeare on screen...and the character with the least amount of wit in the whole movie is Shakespeare!!?! Imagine AMADEUS with Mozart never actually playing a note! What would be the point of that? Exxactly! You have a film about the greatest writer who ever lived and nothing interesting ever comes out of his mouth. IDIOTS. What a wasted opportunity. Instead they made a cutsy puff movie about Gwyneth's breasts in Elizabethan garb with Shakespeare - Shakespeare! - as the flaky supporting character. FIE! FIE!! The fault lies not in ourselves but in the idiots who shot that piece of crap.

Posted by: SpikeLeo at October 3, 2007 12:04 PM

I was with you on EVERYTHING but Mystic river. God, I HATED that movie, schlocky, over the top, beat you in the face with its obvious plotline and conclusion, not to mention, lets throw in some child abuse to create a "layered" "troubled" character. Also, being from South Boston, not realistic, horrible accents, and Sean Penn had the worst hair dye job ever.
And his performance .One more example of a "Hey, look at me, Im sean Penn, and Im and ACTOR" shit. Tim Robbins was good, and Marcia Gay Harden excellent, but EVERYthing else in that movie sucked. not that LTR should have one, but you skipped the obvious winner for that year, Lost in Translation. You picked Mystic River over Lost in Translation. Im appalled, appalled I tell you!

Posted by: frogirl1978 at October 3, 2007 12:39 PM

I was with you on EVERYTHING but Mystic river. God, I HATED that movie, schlocky, over the top, beat you in the face with its obvious plotline and conclusion, not to mention, lets throw in some child abuse to create a "layered" "troubled" character. Also, being from South Boston, not realistic, horrible accents, and Sean Penn had the worst hair dye job ever.
And his performance .One more example of a "Hey, look at me, Im sean Penn, and Im and ACTOR" shit. Tim Robbins was good, and Marcia Gay Harden excellent, but EVERYthing else in that movie sucked. not that LTR should have won, but you skipped the obvious winner for that year, Lost in Translation. You picked Mystic River over Lost in Translation. Im appalled, appalled I tell you!

Posted by: frogirl1978 at October 3, 2007 12:40 PM

the fact that the consensus around here (and i have not read all the comments, just skimmed) that "crash" was a piece of shit is on of the reasons why pajiba is the best review website out there...

Posted by: alm at October 3, 2007 1:13 PM

I'm not going to comment on the films themselves, as it's a pretty subjective topic to begin with, and everyone already knows my feelings on Peter Jackson.

I will say however, that I stopped trusting the Academy when they saw fit to air footage of Angelina Jolie tongue-kissing her brother the year she won Best Supporting Actress for Girl, Interrupted. Was that really necessary?

Posted by: Smokin at October 3, 2007 1:15 PM

We hadn't been to the movies in a long time, and horrifyingly hadn't seen any of the 2005 nominees in the theater. So first we rented Crash, because it won. And it was awful. For a movie that was supposed to illustrate how wrong stereotyping is, it certainly indulged in plenty of its own. The characters were implausible (especially Thandie Newton, and what is the big damn deal about her? Give all her roles to Sophie Okonedo, I say.)

Then we worked our way through the rest of them. After each one, we said, "It was better than Crash."

And then finally we got to Capote. It's a masterpiece. What a phenomenal, textured work. I'm still appalled that it didn't win.

You know, we still watch movies and say "It was better than Crash." Kingdom of Heaven was better than Crash.

Posted by: Kate at October 3, 2007 1:28 PM

Jay, whoever you are, you're my hero.

I thought I had read every blessed word on Brokeback Mountain, but somehow I missed your commentary. Can I copy it to share with my Brokeback buddies? Thanks in advance.

LHN

PS, if you want to email me, the address is lhn_wsb@yahoo.com. Thanks!

Posted by: LHN at October 3, 2007 2:05 PM

^Scarlett, for your own sake, please don't disregard Brokeback forever based on what you saw as a staggering act of egotism on the part of Annie Proulx. With all due respect to Ciji, who reduced the movie to a "boring" landscape flick, I found it one the most engaging, poignant, honest and honestly heartbreaking films I have ever seen. This may have been due as much to Ang Lee's touch as to Proulx's source material, but that's another argument.

Ciji- while I disagree with you on Brokeback, you hit the nail on the head regarding the pseudo-racism splashed about by Crash. I haven't been able to stomach the movie in its entirety, and I see no reason to force myself to try.

Dan- while I'm sure that the fogeys in the Academy have many a like-minded ally, the plural of the kind of alley stray cats inhabit is "alleys." Honestly, I'm not an editorial teetotaler anywhere else, but here the level of writing is so high that I hate to be distracted by minor errors (usually borne of haste, I assume) in the prose. Also, as someone who has had many an editor, I'm not suggesting the textual corrections from any sort of high horse.

Posted by: Becca at October 3, 2007 3:26 PM

We get it. You hate Lord of the Rings. No, really, we hear you loud and clear. You're super, super cool, and everyone who loved the trilogy is an unsophisticated nerd who only watched it for the pretty elves and scary monsters. Okay? WE GET IT. Now let it go. Jesus.

Also, I have to chime in with the "Mystic River sucks" crowd. I never care what movie wins Best Picture, but Penn's acting (or rather, "acting") in that film made me embarrassed for him.

Posted by: TT at October 3, 2007 3:43 PM

"But, I think there should be a "Songs That Shouldn't Have Won Best Original Song" list because I still can't get over the fact that Three Six Mafia won for their song."

Okay, I'm speaking from a soft spot for "Hustle and Flow", clearly, but I just love the role this song plays in the movie. I love how the song comes together in the movie and I can't separate the merits of the song itself from how it's used in the movie.

Posted by: Samantha T at October 3, 2007 4:34 PM

I am glad that someone realizes how heavy handed Lord of The Rings films were. There was the fantastical in Tolkien's work and yet there lied the sublime just beneath. I think of Theoden's healing by Gandalf as an example. In the book "the Two Towers" Theoden's lassitude is more psychological than physical. Gandalf entreats him to join in the Battle through words not spells. But in the film Theoden's indecision is treated as a case of mystical possession by Saruman instead of stemming from an internal struggle within Theoden's conscience.

To be sure LOTR was a major acheivement. The story was still good and the effects spectacular. But I always wonder if the film could have been more moving had it been made by a director with a more subtle hand. Although he is dead Tarkovsky would have been ideal to adapt Tolkeins source material.

Posted by: Mr. West at October 3, 2007 4:40 PM

Could you do one of these features for actors and actresses sometime in the future? (coughcough Julia Roberts over Ellen Burstyn coughcough)

Posted by: Drew at October 2, 2007 2:04 PM

--> oh my god! i've been lamenting that for years!!!!! i totally remember those oscars and how totally disappointed i was. when the best actress nominees were being announced and the clips are played for each nominee, i remember seeing ellen burstyn's clip (we were watching @ my in-laws' house along with my wife's entire family), and after the clip, my wife and her mom were both CRYING! (they had never seen the movie!) they were both saying, "i don't think i'll be able to watch that movie. it looks so sad." then julia roberts' clip was played. for erin-fucking-brockovitch. yeah. real acting there. what the fuck?

Posted by: zingzing at October 3, 2007 4:46 PM

You left out the most important one:
1974's Chinatown losing Best Picture to Godfother II. The last great American film for many years lost out to yet another love letter to the mob. In fact, the only Oscar Chinatown did win out of its 11 nominations was -- almost like L A Confidential 22 years later -- Best Original Screenplay by Robert Towne. The Golden Globes & Bafta wisely chose this masterpiece (along with star Jack Nicholson as best actor) as best drama but for some obscure reason Hollywood chose that overrated piece of shit Godfather 2 Chinatown's intricate and disturbing plot is up there with The Maltese Falcon, The Thin Man, & other classics of the actual period when the movie is set. So why did it lose?

Posted by: matt at October 3, 2007 8:10 PM

overrated piece of shit Godfather 2

Alright, alright, alright, let's not get all verklempt here and trade credibility for hyperbole on a one-for-one basis. Both are fine films. I would give the nod to Chinatown as well, as it's a stunning film in every respect. But it's a much closer call than you give Godfather II credit for.

Not only that, there's a great case to be made that The Conversation was truly the greatest film that year. It was certainly prescient and ahead of its time, and Gene Hackman was absolutely astonishing in a role that gave him very little opportunity to Sean-Penn all over himself and his underwear.

Let's just all say a silent prayer of thanks that The Towering Inferno didn't win. It was the Titanic of its day, after all. Oh, Steve McQueen, why? Why, why, why?

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at October 3, 2007 8:39 PM

I'm glad to see that there are people out there who are still upset that Cate Blanchett lost to Gwyneth Paltrow. That was the year the Oscars started dying to me. However, I'm a bit suprised that for all the dislike of Forest Gump (I don't hate it, but whenever I watch it, I get the feeling that someone's trying to tell me that I wasn't lucky enough to be born a boomer, and I don't like that), no one's mentioned that that was the same year as The Madness of King George. It wasn't nominated for best picture (though I think it should have), but it lost Best Actor to Forrest Fucking Gump. MKG was lauded ALL over the world, and it comes to America and gets ignored over a retard. Yee haw. Of course, I also think that Gong Li is one of the best actresses of our time and that it sucks that most Americans only know her (if they saw it) as the bitch in Memoirs of a Geisha.

Posted by: Rowen at October 4, 2007 12:06 AM

You're being far too biased here-often putting off mainstream movies that did well box office-wise while all the condescending,mad critics were complaining psychotically as if their hearts were ripped out or their mothers raped.Crash & Titanic were god-awful,but they were good at what they did-and just because it didn't turn out the way you expect a typical 'good' film to turn out,well don't get ur panties up in a bunch.and sean penn?HAVE YOU SEEN I AM SAM?

PLEASE.

Posted by: daniel at October 4, 2007 12:17 AM

Towering Inferno was NOT the Titanic of its day. Titanic had horrible word-of-mouth while it was being made, was the most expensive white elephant ever, blah blah, then it opened and women went back to see Leonardo DiCaprio three, four times, and it broke all the box office records, blah blah. That's what a Best Picture Winner is. No way it wasn't going to win. Although I liked Full Monty better.

Oh, and The English Motherfucking Patient beating Fargo? The Mother Fuck is that about?

Posted by: tommytimp at October 4, 2007 12:49 AM

Hey folks, let's not forget 1976, the year in which All The President's Men, Network, Bound for Glory, and Taxi Driver (!!!!!) all lost out to the dreck that is Rocky.

Posted by: p at October 4, 2007 2:45 AM

Edward Norton's con man faked being mentally challenged to get inside the vault he was attempting to rob, and the stunning ease with which he switched between "regular" and "handicapped" tore a giant hole in the myth of what it means to "act" the role of someone with a mental disability. Is it really as easy as just doing that voice and changing your walk? It can't be, can it? It can.

Sure it can. If you're Edward Freaking Norton, man of a thousand stolen scenes and the most talented and versatile actor of his generation.

I'm just sayin'...you're talking about some very good actors here. Just because they can switch it on and off like a light...

Nonetheless, I largely agree with you.

Posted by: Shadowen at October 4, 2007 4:28 AM

as a 'david' who posts comments from time to time, just wanted to clarify that i couldn't agree more with dan or disagree less with the other david who posted early on. shawshank is much, much better than forrest gump.
this is way too early to be talking like this, especially since i (and i assume almost all of you) haven't yet seen these films, or most that will get academy nods, but is there even a chance that the coens and/or pt anderson will get some recognition (for the sake of argument, let's say that no country and there will be blood will both be as great as they look). ???

Posted by: david at October 4, 2007 9:55 AM

MORON!

LOTR RULEZZZZZZZZZZ!


yOU SUCKKKKKKKKKK!

Posted by: JIMSTER at October 4, 2007 11:39 AM

>>It's no surprise that Forrest Gump won; it's a damn love letter to Boomers, set to the greatest hits of the 1960s and '70s and featuring that old Academy favorite, a retarded hero.

Posted by: Adam at October 4, 2007 11:49 AM

See, that's interesting because I loved crash when I saw it. I never really stopped to consider anything bad about it until I read the points that were made in this blog. Well done on the though-provoking reasoning.

Posted by: Ryan at October 4, 2007 5:39 PM

I have to disagree with the person who said Dances with Wolves was great for Native Americans. Costner romanticized one tribe of Natives and made another out to be evil savages, playing into all the old stereotypes. It also has a white man who becomes a better Indian than all the other Indians in the movie, confirming white-male-supremacy. And it has the Pocahontas relationship, the white man and Native woman, which I find cliche.

Not to mention that it was very long, with lots of boring scenery shots. Ugh.

Posted by: amanda at October 5, 2007 6:26 AM

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King beats Mystic River

Nope, don't agree. You're way off base here. Not only was the Academy giving an award for the trilogy, basically, but I think LOTR fully deserved that award because it resurrected fantasy from the garbage bin of filmmaking. Before LOTR, any non-Disney fantasy just didn't get made. Everybody was afraid of them. Now weepy, overly-serious, pretentious pieces like Mystic River? Oh, they get made. All the time.

But LOTR was a stunning example of a dead genre coming back to life.

Clint Eastwood? Overrated.

Posted by: Katie Sheffield at October 5, 2007 9:28 AM

are you kiddin' me, Dan? I LOVED Titanic!

...of course i was about 13 when it came out.....

and it had boobs.

Posted by: cody at October 5, 2007 11:35 AM

I have such a hard time with my mother and my friend who think Crash, as you said a piece of 'pseudeo-intellectual' dreck, is an excellent and masterful movie. Good Night, and Good Luck had ten times better quality than a modern race guilt-tripping craptastic swill movie.

Posted by: Colin at October 5, 2007 1:21 PM

I have such a hard time with my mother and my friend who think Crash, as you said a piece of 'pseudeo-intellectual' dreck, is an excellent and masterful movie. Good Night, and Good Luck had ten times better quality than a modern race guilt-tripping craptastic swill movie.

And to quote Chris Griffin on Kevin Costner: "How does he keep getting work?"

Posted by: Colin at October 5, 2007 1:21 PM

Sorry for double post.

Posted by: Colin at October 5, 2007 1:23 PM

Traffic? Traffic! Ugh, I just threw up. Traffic is Crash with a better cast. The hard nosed anti-drug crusader judge who learns a tough lesson when his daughter gets addicted? Check. Every parents nightmare - that a black man is going to "turn" their lily-white daughter into some sort of crack whore? Check. Corrupt Mexican officials and police officers? Check. Corrupt lawyers? Check. Good cops/ bad cops? Check.

If you think Crash was heavy handed, and it was, then explain to me what was so great about Traffic.

Jesus, the god damn movie shows a black man turning out a white girl. Wake the fuck up, Pajiba.

Posted by: horror fan at October 5, 2007 6:58 PM

I agree with you ona ll but one year.

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King beating Mystic River. The LOTR trilogy is my lifeblood. That is all.

Posted by: Sarah at October 5, 2007 7:42 PM

get over yourself.

Posted by: Chester at October 7, 2007 12:39 PM

I'm still pissed as hell that the epic bore 'The Last Emperor' beat Broadcast News.

Posted by: Clevelandchick at October 7, 2007 5:49 PM

One more to add:
Shakespeare in Love, 1998.

I mean, it wasn't up against great competition, but hell, they didn't even nominate "Truman Show" or "American History X"

Posted by: Just Some Joe at October 8, 2007 10:34 AM

I stopped trusting the Academy when they kept nominating bullshit.


I look at the list of nominees and say to myself, "Yup, more bullshit. Bullshit's gonna win."


I don't worry, though. We are the real palmes d'or and oscars. Munich, Raging, and Pulp don't need no stinkin' pageantry.

Posted by: Jackseppelin at October 9, 2007 4:06 PM

I actually agree with you on most points except for Crash. I think that a valid argument could be made for maybe Good Night, And Good Luck over Crash, but all four? Please.

Posted by: Joe at October 9, 2007 4:36 PM

Regarding Julia Roberts over Ellen Burstyn, I remember a quote from Burstyn's autobiography that she said (this may be a paraphrase but here goes):

"Julia Roberts won the Oscar. I know what I did that year."

For me that just shows how Ellen knows she gave the better acting performance while Julia Roberts will probably only remember that she finally won the Oscar because hell let's face it, she gives the same performance in all of her movies.

Posted by: JS at October 10, 2007 7:34 AM

I actually hated the movie Capote, left for a while, walked back to my apartment to drink a lot of wine, came back, ordered a Sofia Coppola champagne can, still hated the movie. For all the awesome in PSH and that Keener broad, I just didn't see it in this flick.

I think that DC was just making the point of how awful and hackorrific Crash and all Paul Haggis are. I know it is unartistic to look down on people, but it's damnright unavoidable when a nice little oasis like Pajiba gets overrun with, well, plain ole lame-o's.

Posted by: Jackseppelin at October 11, 2007 10:56 AM

Sorta on topic but I hit the wall when Jimmy Neutron beat Princess Mononoke in the animation category.

Posted by: craigl at October 11, 2007 5:52 PM

You'll probably all hate me, but I have to disagree about Crash vs. B.B. Mountain, et. al. Call me crazy, but I personally liked Crash better than Brokeback. I thought Crash seemed more realistic than Brokeback.

Everyone calls it "the greatest love story ever," but if it is, then why is (excuse the spoilers) Jack with that other guy at one point? Well acted, well directed, just not very believable.

I also have a soft spot for Forrest Gump.

That being said, I think Good Will Hunting should have won in 1997. I'm a HUGE Robin Williams fan and to me, he deserved his win for Best Supporting Actor after many, MANY years of waiting. Plus, the script for that movie was amazing! Not to mention, it was written by two college juniors. Pretty amazing feat.

If we're talking actors, I'd have to say Haley Joel Osment should have won over Michael Caine in 1999. I liked Caine's performance in "The Cider House Rules," but Osment's Cole Sear was nothing short of incredible especially since he was so young. But who knows, maybe Haley Joel will get an Oscar nomination yet...

Chicago definitely deserves Best Pic for 2002. I'm sorry, but the performances in that film, coupled with its cinematography and the general story is amazing. Call me biased because I actually love the city of Chicago, but it's one of my top ten films. And Queen Latifah was awesome in it.

I agree with you about Titanic. It's a good film, but not great and it shouldn't have gotten best pic.

I can't say much more because I haven't seen the rest of the films on the list, but once I do maybe I'll come back and comment.

Posted by: s.s. at October 23, 2007 3:21 AM

Anybody who doesnt like the duke shouldnt be
allowed to blog. Besides being married 3 times
and cheating on your wife is the american way!

Posted by: knowsallseesall at November 11, 2007 6:14 PM

Four Weddings and a Funeral was also better than Forrest Gump.

Posted by: hank at November 13, 2007 7:52 PM

Sorry but I love Gladiator.
I'll defend it until I die.
Sure I know it cheesy and will be looked at the same way as Spartacus is seen today but fuck it, I love them both.

And Mystic River?!?
Jesus, I was only half watching that movie and I knew who killed the daughter; that Penn was going to make a terrible mistake and *SPOILERS*That Robbins was going to die 20 minutes in!
It was just too "TRUE MOVIE" for my liking and then Robbins won the Oscar for playing a mentally challaged guy! Penn did have some good scenes,but the movie was just dying for the Academy to lavish it. Pure Fucking Oscar Fodder.

Posted by: CarpeJugulum at February 1, 2008 10:41 AM

Sorry but,you've got me rattled today.
Crash is absolute cac no doubt about it but...
You chose *MUNICH* !?!
WTF!


I only watch Munich for the fineness that is Eric Bana.
The only - and I mean only - decent scene in that film, was when Bana & the Palestinian guy were on the stairwell.That's it.

Though, I do love the "RECIEPTS!" line.

It's a safe, mainstream movie that tells us that "Violence will fuck you up, m'kay".Nothing else.
The unintensionally hilarious scene (in my eyes)where Bana is sleeping with the wife & keeps having flashbacks - this movie is as subtle as a foghorn.I had to bite my lip to stop laughing out loud.

Posted by: CarpeJugulum at February 1, 2008 11:07 AM

Just fail the camera.

Posted by: Retspeedo at February 19, 2008 1:46 PM