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I know — another villain list. Comb the Web and you’ll find dozens of these. The thing is, I’ve always wanted to fashion my own version, one that omitted the three cinematic arch-villains — Vader, Luthor, and Goldfinger — who’ve superseded even the mythical figures of folklore. Sure, the cartoonish blockbuster super-villain has his place, but he’s never interested me as much as the more nuanced varieties. The list below has displaced a few of the more conventional choices in order to highlight other, less recognized villains who deserve a bit of broadcast (though certain indispensable faces have also been included).

The trick is to avoid the temptation to include anti-heroes, which are often the most memorable villainous types but, per design and purpose, not villains. A real villain operates only in relation to a hero — it’s the hero who attracts the audience’s sympathy. Villains are not protagonists but highly antagonistic antagonists. Lex Luthor: villain. Patrick Bateman: anti-hero. Darth Vader: villain. Tony Soprano: anti-hero. Dr. No: villain. Norman Bates, Alex de Large, Carl Boehm’s Peeping Tom, Michael Rooker’s Henry, many femme fatales: all anti-heroes. Villains are often less richly textured than anti-heroes, but my favorite villains by and large avoid the thinness that endullens your generic Bondian super-villain out for world domination.

As always, parameters keep things manageable. This list is limited to villains of live-action feature films — no animated villains (sorry, Aku), and no TV-show villains (sorry, Adibisi). I’ve also ignored the monsters (sorry, Predator and Alien), the machines (sorry, Terminator and HAL), and the immortals (although a couple of the latter managed to creep in) in favor of the ones we homo sapiens can identify with — humanness amplifies a villain’s depravity, no?


0199%281%29.gifCapitàn Vidal / Pan’s Labyrinth (2006): Vidal is a recent incarnation and has yet to find the traction of hindsight and age, but he earns his spot based on sheer economy and intensity. He’s the culmination of every autocratic fascist baddie and every abusive step-parent ever put to celluloid, poured into one razor-seamed uniform; he’s two very particular villain-birds killed with one green-glass bottle, if you will. Who better to cast than Sergi Lopez, a Spanish actor known for playing villains? Unlike The Shining’s Jack Torrance and The Stepfather’s Jerry Blake, there’s no whiff of anti-hero rising out of Vidal’s pores — he’s the Real Deal, void of all sympathy from the get-go, lurking in the background of young Ofelia’s environment, and more nightmarish than the eyeless hide-monster guarding the fruit. He’s the reason Ofelia’s upper world disintegrates — he is War and Politics and Violence in trim trousers and glossy boots, Patriarchy with an acid bark and clocked fist, Ambition with a blood-lust. It was Vidal’s antics that took Pan’s Labyrinth over the edge for some viewers — his brutality was a shot of black ink injected into a fish-tank filled with exotic gliding creatures. Vidal also represents the underside of the fairy-tale; he’s the witch, the troll, the power-drunk king who corrupts the pastoral glade. He’s the villain who can piss all over a child’s magical realm and leave his stink so deep in the place that it warps her imagination and rots her optimism. The likes of Vidal are potent enough to ooze their cancer through multiple dimensions (whether everyday or fantastic, political or domestic) by sheer osmosis — that’s some powerful villainy.

barbarian3.jpgThulsa Doom / Conan the Barbarian (1982): Forget Darth Vader — Thulsa Doom is James Earl Jones at his villainous best. He’s only a voice with Vader (and, thanks to Jones’ talents, voice goes damned far), but in Conan he’s got much more to play with. Thulsa is the literal serpent in an already-corrupt landscape peopled by fallen humans whose hardscrabble lives center on points of honor and good, solid warfare. But even the most carefully crafted sword can’t stop Thulsa when he’s a mere marauder — and when he crowns himself king-deity of a massive commune, his charisma and hypnotic gaze take care of anything his colossal barbarian goons overlook. As a villain, he’s a classic: turn people into machine parts that prop up your political system; destroy entire villages in your quest for supreme power; decapitate a mother in front of her child with a heartless, satisfied look on your face; whittle charmed arrows out of garden snakes (or morph into a python yourself when all else fails); serve hand soup to your orgy slaves. Jones’ villain — along with Callaghan’s cinematography and Poledouris’ famous score — is what makes Conan the Barbarian the definitive sword-and-sandal pizza party, and one of the few honest film adaptations of a comic-book source. It’s Jones — not Arnold — who makes this movie endure. We shouldn’t expect anything less from a heavy who delivers lines like “Crucify him on the Tree of Woe” (perhaps the single most sulphurous command ever uttered on film). Only the finest villains even have a Tree of Woe, so points ought to be accorded.

annie-wilkes.jpg Annie Wilkes / Misery (1990): Is it just me, or do female villains generally fall into one of four groups? There’s the femme fatale in her most extreme form, the witch figure, the evil maternal figure, and the psychotic lunatic. At times these categories slurp over one another; Alex in Fatal Attraction, for instance, is more psycho lunatic than femme fatale, because the femme fatale in her pure form is an ambivalent, sympathetic character, and rarely a true villain. However limited the treatment our female villains get onscreen, some great ones have been generated, especially those who spring from literary sources. Think Mommy Dearest (evil maternal), most Disney villains (witch/evil maternal), Mrs. Danvers (evil maternal characterizes a lot of sinister movie servants), and Annie Wilkes, who inhabits three of the four categories nicely: she’s a little bit witch (the single woman in the cabin on the town’s fringe), a little bit evil maternal (feeding and cleaning and coddling her prisoner), and a lot psycho lunatic. In fact, she’s one of the scariest psycho lunatic women ever put to film, judging by anecdotal lore that speaks of viewers’ lasting impressions. While Stephen King created Annie to embody his fear of the rabid fan, Kathy Bates transformed her into the misogynist’s worst nightmare: the “crazy lady,” the “irrational bitch,” the “permanently on the rag chick,” the “suffocating mama,” and (less stereotypically) the vagina-bearer with more physical strength than her put-upon male guest. Annie is the monstrous feminine with no sex appeal — which makes her all the more monstrous, because without sex appeal, she serves absolutely no socio-cultural purpose for the average male. She’s the non-person with a motherfucking chip on her shoulder, and her ability to take control over a man the way women have often been controlled is harrowing stuff. Most harrowing of all is her slow disintegration, seen through the eyes of James Caan’s novelist, and the escalation of their villain/hero dynamic as he seeks a way out of his trap while Annie seeks a way to keep him and love him and call him George forever.

040315_caradine_hmed.hmedium.jpg Bill / Kill Bill, Volumes 1 and 2 (2003-04): Kill Bill taught me that hell hath no fury like a man scorned, and that David Carradine can, in fact, be convincing (who knew?). Bill’s weathered face, slight lisp and heartbroken aspect belie his flagrant abusive-partner tendencies — so flagrant, so epic that only the five-point-palm exploding-heart technique can take him down. As the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad’s head snake-charmer, Bill’s first points for villainy are scored by his knack for recruiting and transforming others into near-indestructible killers. He leeches the humanity out of his pack and sends them into the world with their Hanzo vorpal swords. Further points must be credited for his (and I quote) never having been nice his whole life, for being a real bad daddy, and for murmuring do you find me sadistic? to the woman whose head is about to be blown open by his shotgun. Tarantino does his best to distract us from Bill’s über-villain status with eye-candy choreography and an ear-candy soundtrack (QT uses tunes the way the genre Italians did in the ’60s and ’70s — to my eternal gratitude), but don’t be deceived. Archetypal clues announce what Bill is made of. He uses a truth-serum on our hero, for crying out loud; he spins atmosphere with his hypnotic storytelling gifts; he’s obsessed with “consequences” (as many self-entitled villains seem to be). Of all the hero/villain relationships, those wherein the rivals began as friends are the most intense, and Tarantino literally stages the pas-de-deux structure of the hero/villain dance in the first moments of Volume 2, focusing on Bill and Beatrix’s feet in close-up as they re-negotiate their relationship on the dusty porch of the Chapel at Two Pines. They’re no longer master/serf, lover/beloved, mentor/protégée but villain and villain-wrangler. Perhaps what makes Bill so irredeemably vile, finally, is the way he plays Beatrix’s red lust for revenge against her maternal instincts in the final scenes — not cool, but it falls in line with the rest of the story’s fascination with hybridity and dualism.

250px-Throne_of_blood.jpg Lady Asaji Washizu/ Throne of Blood (1957): One of the few types of female villain which falls outside the four categories mentioned above is the Machiavellian femme with tits of steel. What injects this villain type with her particular brand of evil is her taking on what were considered very masculine traits, traditionally; it’s the unexpected discovery of ambition and political understanding under a rounded chest that apparently gave this character her biggest sting back in the day. Lady Macbeth willed herself “unsexed” for a reason, but she’s only the best-known version — the masculinized woman-schemer has a rich history that goes all the way back to Greek tragedy, crops up in Gothic fiction, and haunts the onscreen femme fatale. Kurosawa gives us what is perhaps the strongest rendering of Lady Macbeth in Lady Asaji Washizu, who eggs on her husband with a stone-faced tenacity. Lady Asaji holds nothing back — her determination is as bleak and crisp as Kurosawa’s black-and-white photography, as cold as the film’s snow-scapes and as pointed as the arrows that eventually gore her husband. She can quantifiably be called the villain to Toshiro Mifune’s anti-hero, even though they’re batting for the same team. It’s a rare onscreen dynamic, and quite arresting to behold as Isuzu Yamada toils through the story in the guise of a dutiful wife — one whose coiling intentions steal the freaking show.

HansGruberDeath.jpg Hans Gruber / Die Hard (1988): Alan Rickman is permanently on call for villain roles, and his Hans Gruber is king of the action-movie bad guys. Gruber approaches the super-villain with his large-scale networking, but it’s not quite Goldfinger scale (and, unlike Dr. No, or Han of Enter the Dragon, he doesn’t appear to own an island retreat, which excludes him from the type of villain Dr. Evil parodies). World domination doesn’t seem likely, here — Gruber’s one down from the super-villain and somewhat more complex. Witness the way he relies not so much on technology or henchmen, in a pinch, but on his own wiles: When McClane stumbles across Gruber alone in the utilities room, it’s not a laser but a method actor’s talent he whips out. Suddenly the poised commandant is a sniveling civilian (a feat of acting marred only by Rickman’s imperfect Yankee accent). Gruber embodies the chameleon villain with a thousand aliases and very deep pockets, who travels the world, collects heavies, plots undreamed-of takes, and philosophically justifies his fiscal terrorism (Gruber’s so fabulously arrogant that he romanticizes his avarice and pulls ersatz political motives out of his ass). We sense that it isn’t people he wants to lord over, ultimately, but hordes and hordes of cash; it isn’t power for the sake of power that drives him — he just wants to cool his heels in Saint-Tropez for the rest of his life, nestling his ass on a cushiony pile of lucre. But he somehow makes his everyday greed and his dressed-up safe-cracking terribly dashing. He also puts our hero through one of the most boisterous cat-and-mouse dynamics ever filmed. Die Hard is nearly 20 years old, but Rickman’s arch-thief, however archetypal, is as fresh as ever.

companeros_palance.jpg John / Companeros (1970): Companeros is the best spaghetti western not directed by the inimitable Sergio Leone. Scored by Ennio Morricone and shot by Sergio Corbucci (an uneven genre director who reaches tidal heights when he succeeds), Companeros doesn’t deserve its North American obscurity, especially with a cast that includes Jack Palance at his sinister best. Palance pulses at the heart of the film as John, the villain with the wooden hand who plagues Franco Nero’s Swedish cowboy hero. Like Bill and Beatrix, John and Yodlof used to be tight, and that history — coupled with John’s mild, screws-loose mannerisms — makes their antagonism that much thicker. While Yodlof protects a professor valuable for his knowledge of a safe’s combination, John regularly undresses his pet falcon, Marsha, with his eyes, and smokes the local green ‘til he’s the happiest psycho for miles. Despite how it may sound, Palance isn’t completely over the top, but nor is he completely subtle, either; his villain is still sane enough to be wily, and human enough to get fired to the outer limits when Yodlof nabs his bird. John is one of the top spaghetti villains, along with Henry Fonda’s Frank (Once Upon a Time in the West) and Klaus Kinski’s Loco (The Great Silence). And the way he chatter-murmurs “Marsha” will stick in your brain for years to come.

full_27082004_lecter.jpg Hannibal Lecter / The Silence of the Lambs (1991): This entire list would have been overrun by serial/psycho-killers had I not forced myself to seek out characterizations more complex than Jason, Michael and Freddie. Plus, unless you count the Final Girl figure who somehow manages, at movie’s end, to fuck up their shit, many psycho-killer villains are often the film’s centerpiece, which structurally launches them into a depraved extreme of the anti-hero (and explains why fanboys root for knife-wielders). Since I’ve already argued out the Bateman figure in my introduction, I’m left with finding a psycho-villain to represent all of his cherished brethren. Hannibal Lecter is the perfect candidate. While he may leech more audience sympathy than Buffalo Bill, the presence of Clarice Starling (our true locus) bars Lecter from anti-hero classification and permits him to fully inhabit his end of the point-counterpoint hero/villain dynamic. That slow dance between the embodiments of good and evil plays out over the course of the film. And what’s more evil than a hyper-educated man, one veneered with posh civility, who breaks the cannibalism taboo with such relish? Hopkins’ crisp enunciation, lullaby tones and wombat stare have become impressively iconic in a short time; omitting him from this list would have been grounds for (wait for it) a major paddlin’.

hitcher06.jpg John Ryder / The Hitcher (1986): You knew Rutger would crop up. Even though, by my count, he’s played more heroes (or anti-heroes) than outright villains, still there’s something sensually Satanic about him, and few do evil so well. His psychotic, possibly supernatural John Ryder exudes a unique attar of villainy — it’s his unknown motivation, his insinuation that victims may not be as random as they seem, and the fact that he’s somehow anthropomorphically twinned with a mean set of wheels. The Hitcher deploys the Highway Hitman trope that classic B-cinema must never let die — the one used in other thrill-greats like Duel, Road Warrior and, most recently, Death Proof. Rutger in the full prime of manhood looks about as solid as his big black guzzler, only he’s big and blond and baneful, and a lot more cunning than a Ford chassis. His keen blue eyes ought to be the gaze of a corn-fed, second-gen Dutch-American growing sere on a windswept Nebraska farm. Instead, they’re peering out of the face of a lethally sober madman, filling the screen so brightly that the Southwestern desert vistas fade to irrelevance. So do social codes whenever he’s in the area. He’s a force that collapses everything mundane you’ve ever relied on. He’ll make a hash of the authorities and kill your new girlfriend without breaking a sweat, but he depends on bullets and speed and torque to get where he’s going. John Ryder is neither man nor monster, and leads his hero in a lingering, movie-long dance of antagonism of the most visceral kind.

200px-Badseedpatty.jpg Rhoda Penmark / The Bad Seed (1956): The Bad Seed helped spawn a cottage industry of devil-children stories: The Omen, The Exorcist, It’s Alive, The Godsend, The Good Son … the list goes on. In each of these, the homicidal ankle-biters claim true villain status, as the audience’s sympathy generally homes in on the mother who’s aghast at what she’s birthed (or on a male family member bent on protecting his brood from the freak). Patty McCormack’s pinafored reprobate was so unnerving for contemporary viewers that the studio smashed the so-called fourth wall at film’s end to remind everyone that such an anomaly could only happen, really, in fiction (see? It’s just a cute little actor kid and her actor parents, and ain’t they having a blast? Man alive, do I hate that naïve, lifted-curtain ending of an otherwise stellar little number). The influence this archetype has had on succeeding villainy can’t be underestimated, and Rhoda Penmark remains the ultimate child-felon because — unlike Damien and Regan, who are possessed by outside forces — her taste for killing is inherent (Bonnie in The Godsend is a close second, with her whey-faced innocence and cuckoo impulses). Like the infant in It’s Alive, Rhoda’s a genetic aberration rendered all the more aberrant by her age, sex and appearance, and by her ability to evade detection and exploit her youth. And because she’s pre-pubescent (unlike Regan, who’s often critically read as the threatening female coming into her sexuality — think Ginger Snaps), Rhoda doesn’t stand in for the devil-woman stereotype. She’s actually a recent bugbear: the maniac masquerading as the purest embodiment of innocence. The Bad Seed archetype — as we know it — could never have existed outside of folklore before the 1750s, when Western culture started to romanticize childhood and idealize the underaged; it only took a couple hundred years for horror writers to fix on the flipside as the perfect tool to disturb the masses.

lee_wicker.JPG Lord Summerisle / The Wicker Man (1973): No villain list can even call itself a villain list without Christopher Lee. Lee excels at more than playing vampires — he’s often the cavalier aristocrat the film’s hero confronts in a clash between tradition and progress, whether he appears in archetypal bloodsucking form, or in more subtle guises of the same old tension. In The Wicker Man, the Old Ways vs. New Ways are held up in the characters of Lord Summerisle and Sergeant Howie, the mainlainder who tries to wrench an entire island community out of the pagan past. Summerisle has all the villainous trappings: charisma, erudition, wealth, and outlandish amounts of power over his given realm (small as it may be). He also has control over the population’s sexuality and the ability (like Thulsa Doom) to charm his people into giving up one of their own in sacrifice. This malevolence is iced with an affable mien, a lovely singing voice, and the appearance that all is well under his care; the island is (generally) in fruitful bloom, the people are well-fed and -fucked, and the landlord’s daughter delights so with the part that lies between her left toe and her right toe. He’s everything the pre-industrial age English monarchy once purported to espouse: stick with tradition, keep your station, and all will be well. This ancient political anxiety is what beats at the heart of the film and gives it, along with Howie’s frightful fate, its power to unnerve. Worse, Lee’s Summerisle almost convinces us that his way is the best way — the cherry blossoms on his isle are so full, the hills so green, the songs so charming, and his own gentlemanly diction so lulling, that he almost pulls us back into the vexed traditions we only recently left behind. He’s the villain with the power of illusion and the balls to broil us alive, with a song in his heart, when that illusion eats itself.

drag3.jpg Dr. Frank-N-Furter / The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975): We’ve already established how effective the right voice can be when villaining, and God knows Tim Curry’s got voice. He’s also got legs; it’s been well-documented via anecdata that Frank’s the transvestite for whom even straight women would drop trou. While his ancestor, Victor Frankenstein, is all anti-hero, Frank plays antagonist to Brad and Janet’s squeaky-clean do-gooding — or plays seducer, at least, and plays it mighty well. He’s the mad scientist and the vampiresque debaucher in the stormy castle haven, lording over a campy group of ragtag sock-hoppers, fabricating go-boys in gold shorts, and saucily adjusting his garters as he belts out welcoming tunes at overnight guests. Frank’s on this list, additionally, because I wanted to remind readers that slinky can be villainous, too, and so can funny; the right player, in the right character mode — wearing just the right shade of lipstick — can still exude a lot of threat through the comedy. Granted, that threat is now recognized as plain old bisexual panic by more politically aware viewers but — like the fear of plague and live burial — sexual intimidation (justified or not) casts a long line back into the annals of horror and has moulded a handful of classic villains.

hc.Nosferatu.jpg Klaus Kinski (in anything): Tip: if they can see your skull beneath the skin of your face, you’re already halfway to Villainville. Klaus Kinski had a countenance that screamed to be cast in bad-guy roles, and so he was — over and over and over, hungry for paycheck and neurotically determined to keep his name in lights no matter how incompetent the production (Um, Web of the Spider?). Despite the odds, and the questionable resume, he still managed to bang off a lot of successes; Kinski’s the only actor who can make my heart explode in admiration (insert any Herzog-Kinski collaboration here, even Cobra Verde) or my skin clammify with revulsion (insert Kinski Paganini … God help us all). With Kinski, it was always a matter of how well the direction could harness his genius and contain his megalomaniacal odiousness. Herzog fashioned plenty of memorable anti-heroes with Kinski, but he also fashioned my pick for World’s Best Vampire, the villain to beat all other villains — it’s Kinski, and not Christopher Lee or even Max Schreck (to whom Kinski is indebted) who’s my vote for best Dracula, and I think he’s bad enough to represent. Not only does he play, in Nosferatu, the finest cinematic Count Undead (authentically putrid past his charisma — not some fop in Brylcreem and rubies), he can also carry his palpable menace into other types of villain roles: the mad scientist (Android), the cold-hearted kidnapper (Venom — a must-see for eaters of 60s/70s British thrillers), the serial killer (too numerous to list), the general criminal type (ditto), the sexual deviant (ibid)… If it’s priapic intensity that defines the best villains, Kinski holds the crown. Look through the history of Western cinema, and you’ll see that it’s Kinski lurking in the shadows, skulking in a cape, sucking your blood, slashing your throat, seducing your virgin children, beating your spouse, plotting your downfall, delaying your movie or living in your crawlspace. As Mr. Ranylt is fond of saying, only Klaus Kinski could wrestle a rubber snake to the death with a fake pistol — as he does at the end of Venom — and pull it off convincingly.

daughtersbride-02.jpg Countess Bathory / Daughters of Darkness (1971): It seems right to follow my Dracula pick with a nod to the female bloodsucker, who’s usually trotted out in the lesbian vampire genre. Worthy productions include Jorge Grau’s Vampyres, Jess Franco’s Vampiros Lesbos, the Carmilla Karnstein trilogy from Hammer Films, and especially Harry Kümel’s Daughters of Darkness. Delphine Seyrig’s smoke-voiced Countess Bathory is absolutely definitive. Her face, form and movements are a sequined shrine to Old World values and aesthetics, all stunningly framed by the Bruges architecture that fills the screen and symbolizes Bathory’s agelessness and grand aspirations of legacy. Like Frank-N-Furter, Bathory enjoys playing with her same-sex lover (you could do worse than cherry-ripe Andrea Rau), but she’s also programmed to seduce and destroy the young couple that falls into her hands in a near-desolate resort hotel. Seyrig nails the role — her affable ennui, her slow grace and her relaxed conversation are the habits of someone with oceans of time on her hands (she’s the leisured aristocrat as much as the bored immortal). Watch this one for production design, especially, and female gorgeosity; but even visuals aside, Kümel’s read his folklore and managed to create a setting — muted, yawning — that represents the threat of undeadness and class consciousness even better than a decaying Gothic pile. The encroaching Belgian winter’s a nice, emblematic touch, too.

kurgan.jpg Victor Kruger / Highlander (1986): I thought Highlander was the shit when I was younger, and I was heartbroken when an ex-boyfriend mangled my copy in his VCR. Many years elapsed between the loss of that VHS tape and a more recent viewing. Unfortunately (for me, anyway), the movie doesn’t hold up as well as Razorback, that other Russell Mulcahy trip from the 1980s. It turns out my younger self was immune to the misplaced Queen soundtrack (it’s not them, it’s the film), the craptastic white high-tops/trenchcoat look (Desperado, you gotta let somebody dress you), and Christophe Lambert, whose voice sounds the way week-old gym socks lodged in a stank of gruyère must smell. But never mind. Highlander has a cult-warranted place in many, many hearts, and it lives on in my own thanks to one central element: Clancy Brown as The Kurgan, the hair-raisiest villain my younger self ever eyeballed on a screen. In the case of this villain, size matters, and voice is potent enough to blast the enamel off your teeth. The most frightening thing about Victor Kruger isn’t the way he dogs McLeod like a guillotine on legs, but the ghastly things you imagine he gets up to during his leisure hours. Rapist may as well be stenciled into his forehead, on account of how it seethes in his iron-jawed face, and Christ knows how many puppies the man’s eviscerated with a pinky-nail. Better not to think about it — thanks to the Kurgan, I’m able to leave everyone with an image of the ultimate boogeyman before their eyes: nearly immortal, nearly invincible, and more sinister than most villains, on their best days, can even begin to wish to be.

Ranylt Richildis lives in Ottawa, Canada. She can usually be found sneezing in college libraries or dropping chalk in lecture halls, but she’s somehow managed to squeeze in a film or two a day for the last decade.


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Comments

Love Pan's Labyrinth! El Capitan was horrifying, but quite an enchanted movie!

Posted by: Zooey at November 13, 2007 1:30 PM

Norman Stansfield / Leon (The Professional) 1994
i could actually list a few more Gary Oldman movies, but i think this will do for now...

Posted by: maxpurr9 at November 13, 2007 1:35 PM

I know you know this, but I still feel compelled to point out that Lady Asaji Washizu is quite similar to Lady Macbeth because she's based directly on her, as Throne of Blood is Kurosawa's "reimagining" of MacBeth in a premodern Japanese setting. Which does not make the way the character comes alive any less chilling or distinctive, rather simply that the similarities are not merely a function of a general global trend in this case.

Posted by: be right back at November 13, 2007 1:44 PM

Norman Bates makes a great, bizarre antihero, like a horrible, horrible puppy. Pees on the carpet, gives you sad eyes, and then when you bend down to clean it up, he rips out your voice box.

This is a great list -- I pshawed Frank when you mentioned him, but (curses!) you convinced me.

Posted by: eggface at November 13, 2007 1:56 PM

My favorite vampire is Ingrid Pitt and her twin talents in "The Vampire Lovers." This is a Hammer version of the "Camilla" novel, which predates Stoker's "Dracula." It's actually one of the better Hammer horrors. I love how Peter Cushing, as the good doctor, must remove the female victim's top and put his stethiscope UNDER her breast, in order to listen to her heartbeat. Then there's the nude, lesbo, bath scene. I really want Ingrid Pitt's breasts. Not to touch, but transplanted on my body for men to touch. Is that too much to ask? Sorry, got a little off track.

Posted by: BWeaves at November 13, 2007 1:56 PM

Tip: if they can see your skull beneath the skin of your face, you're already halfway to Villainville.

I'm all the way to LOL-ville with that one.

Posted by: mswas at November 13, 2007 1:58 PM

What about Jack Nicholson as The Joker? The man owned that role so thoroughly that it still owes him rent. How can you top his one arched eyebrow as he devilishly sneers, "Wait'll they get a load of me"? He was not only intelligent, darkly funny, and iconic in his image (come on, a purple suit? Awesome), but he had his own catch-phrase before he smoked people: "Ever dance with the devil by the pale moonlight?" All that and a Prince fan. What more could you want in a villain?

Posted by: Chris at November 13, 2007 2:01 PM

I found Anton Chigurh one of the more fascinating villains. I'm not sure if he's a qualified villain, but he surely is no anti-hero.

Posted by: Arthur Dent at November 13, 2007 2:03 PM

That's it. Ranylt has officially become my favorite critic on the internet. This was fantastic.

Maybe it's a little too obvious, but I would add Frank Booth from Blue Velvet. The way that he is not only a supreme antagonist but also manages to infect and become part of the protagonist is pretty unnerving.

Posted by: Mr. Awesome at November 13, 2007 2:16 PM

The scope of this list is impressive. Horror, action, drama, western, cult musical comedy, cheesy-ass fantasy action (not one, but two!).

Nice job. And none of those Big Words to confound our readers. Heh heh. Sorry, couldn't resist.

My addition to the list would be Dwight Yoakam as Doyle Hargraves in "Sling Blade". Doyle is the typical redneck asshole who's obnoxious, drinks too much, and treats his woman and his friends like shit. But the way Yoakam plays him, Doyle personifies "mean as a snake"; he's pure evil to the core. But he does have some of the best lines:

"Hey is this the kind of retard that drools and rubs shit in his hair and all that, 'cause I'm gonna have a hard time eatin' 'round that kind of thing now. Just like I am with antique furniture and midgets. You know that, I can't so much as drink a damn glass of water around a midget or a piece of antique furniture."


"Sling Blade" is also great for two minor villains: Robert Duvall as Karl's daddy (and possible an older incarnation of Doyle) and J.T. Walsh (God rest his soul.) as Karl's sociopathic companion in the nervous hospital.

Posted by: Alabamapink at November 13, 2007 2:21 PM

great list. i especially love how you described kathy bates as annie wilkes- misery is a movie that, for some unknown reason, i watch at least once a year. my only addition would be peter stormare in fargo. he is actively horrifying in that film, and just seeing pictures of him gives me the shakes.

Posted by: breonne at November 13, 2007 2:30 PM

Thulsa Doom?

THULSA DOOM?


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Posted by: TK at November 13, 2007 2:32 PM

I gotta give you props on some severe headscratching choices, and then defending the fuck out of them. If you're including Frank with Hannibal Lecter and the General from Pan's Labyrinth (still one of the few movies where I actually cheered and clapped OUT LOUD like some sort of American Idol pre-pubed fawning douchewaffle when he was iced), and you make it plausible, ku-fucking-dos.

What about Doyle from Sling Blade? Dwight Yoakam knocks that fucking part out of the park and into the freeway. He abuses everyone around him, even though he's skinny little toothpick bully. I mean, granted, this would place Throaty McGruntsalot as the hero, but might it work?

Posted by: insertclevernamehere at November 13, 2007 2:32 PM

I grimaced just seeing Kathy Bates. Hobbled, hobbled feet. I am fixing to use an emoticon, so forgive me : ( She is such a great villain because she looks like someone you know- which only goes to show you that everyone knows someone who kills people.

Best villain ever though has to go to Regan McNeill from The Exorcist. While she is possessed by the Devil (immortal/monster), this movie still has effect on me. It is the most lasting horror films I have ever seen, and there has been nothing like it before or after. God I hate my mother for allowing me to watch this. Not really, I love my mama.


Emily

ps. Alabamapink, great villain. Robert Duvall and Dwight Yoakam are true villains, because unfortunately there are horrible people who are like that in the real world. I think that is what makes a really scary villain, the fact that they could be a real person. Or maybe that is just the trash I hang around with.

Posted by: Emily at November 13, 2007 2:35 PM

beawes might be a typo, but it's Carmilla, I read it when I was 12 like an idiot and I still sometimes need to sleep with my arms around my neck, it's unconfortable and I have the back of a 90 years old but at least my neck is safe.

Posted by: rio at November 13, 2007 2:44 PM

Wow, this has to be one of the best items I've ever read on Pajiba. Kudos, Ranylt. Excellent range, and I loved your analysis of Rhoda! I'm going to have Clair de la Lune stuck in my head all day.

Posted by: thelastpolarbear at November 13, 2007 2:46 PM

Great list. I love that you included the Sweet Transvestite From Transylvania. And it is weird and a little unsettling that he is such a turn-on.

And remember, the first one that screams gets it in the tit! (I can't wait til my kids are old enough for me to use that one on them.)

Posted by: wsapnin at November 13, 2007 2:51 PM

Thirds on Doyle from Slingblade. That dude scares me more than any over-the-top creepo on this list because I KNOW people like that, they get away with it, they ARE AMONG US AS WE SPEAK. And that's fucking scary.

Posted by: AM at November 13, 2007 2:54 PM

I know it is an embarrassingly conventional suggestion, but I just re-watched One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and my god, is Nurse Ratched blood-chillingly sinister. She's got to be my favorite villain ever. I'm surprised to see her omitted without even a mention.

Otherwise, though, I love this list! Cheers for including Lady Asaji, another favorite of mine. I am a sucker for a mean lady. That cannot be good.

Posted by: The Wandering Parakeet at November 13, 2007 2:59 PM

Scrolled down to see if you included John Ryder from The Hitcher. Yes!

I like your distinction between villain and anti-hero.

I was going to link to an issue of the SAIS Review that we did on Villains in international relations; it was a fabulous issue. But I couldn't find it. Sometimes all you need to do is look to the world around you to find the most dastardly villains.

Posted by: Rachael at November 13, 2007 3:06 PM

Good, extensive list, but I really wish people would remember Harry Lime from The Third Man more often. I have never seen a villain (sorry, Hans Gruber) with a better mixture of charismatic cool and pure, dispassionate evil than him.

Posted by: Todd at November 13, 2007 3:12 PM

Brilliant. Truly brilliant list. Minly because of the inclusion of Kruger, who doesn't get the evil respect he deserves. But, I'd have to dissagree with your listing of Frank, mainly because I would think of him more as an anti-hero. Sure, he does spend his entire movie doing dastardly things (sleeping with the 2 squeaky-clean conservatives, creating a man, killing and eating someone). But, in the end, you have to feel for him, having been killed by his own people. Plus, he's just so damn likeable. And hot. But don't tell anyone I said that.

Posted by: jonr at November 13, 2007 3:24 PM

Oh man, that Thulsa Doom blurb was fantastic. And spawned a half hour conversation about how awesome Conan the Barbarian was amongst my co-workers.

Posted by: Tanner at November 13, 2007 3:26 PM

Rio: Yes, you're right. It's "Carmilla" by J. Sheridan Le Fanu, 1872. I didn't bother to get up, dig through my library and look it up, until after your post. I'm sure it's not the last thing I'll mispell, either.

Posted by: Bweaves at November 13, 2007 3:28 PM

I think Nurse Ratched falls under the same category as Annie Wilkes, sexless psycho who has more power over her male charges than they have over her. It's been years since I've seen that movie/read the book, so you'll have to forgive me if I'm making this up, but I seem to remember there being one scene where it was implied her sexuality could be used against her--but then the aggressor backed down. And then got a lobotomy. Again, could be making that up.

But I digress. I really commented to say that I actually played Rhoda Penmark in a highschool production of the Bad Seed (I wore gingham and
lace and looked like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm) but I'm told the school will no longer do productions of that play. I like to think I had a little something to do with that.

Great list.

Posted by: Scarlett at November 13, 2007 3:30 PM

Great list, great read,

BUT

Norman Bates is definitely a villain. He is not an anti-hero, and he's not the protagonist.

He is most certainly the antagonistic force working against the protagonists. At first, the protagonist is Marion Crane. When she is famously and shockingly killed halfway through the movie, her sister, her lover, and the detective form a three-part multiple protagonist.

Now that we've established this, I hereby officially add Norman Bates to the list.

Posted by: Jerbo at November 13, 2007 3:31 PM

Great list, great read,

BUT

Norman Bates is definitely a villain. He is not an anti-hero, and he's not the protagonist.

He is most certainly the antagonistic force working against the protagonists. At first, the protagonist is Marion Crane. When she is famously and shockingly killed halfway through the movie, her sister, her lover, and the detective form a three-part multiple protagonist.

Now that we've established this, I hereby officially add Norman Bates to the list.

Posted by: Jerbo at November 13, 2007 3:32 PM

Vidal made Pan's Labyinth a traumatic experience for me. When he tortures the stuttering captive...man oh man.

And The Bad Seed had THE best ending ever.

Posted by: Dingles at November 13, 2007 3:33 PM

Congrats, Ranlyt - I think you've just conclusively proved that internet lists can be intelligent and useful :)

I second every one of your thoughts on Kinski. Such an amazing actor. He even scared the hell out of me just being himself in the doc My Best Fiend.

Posted by: Jen at November 13, 2007 3:33 PM

Great list, but what about Robert Mitchum from "Night of the Hunter"? That is one of the scariest villains I can think of. I shudder to think of that hymn that he sings/whistles in the film. Also, the image of Shelley Winters strapped in the car at the bottom of the lake scares the bejesus out of me.

Posted by: AllGussiedUp at November 13, 2007 3:34 PM

Someone else just mentioned it, and I second that Anton Chigurh immediately popped into my head. Javier Bardem owned that role. Whenever he showed up onscreen, behind a character or something my friend just said "oh, shit." and it was genuine, "oh, shit." not joking.

Posted by: Joe at November 13, 2007 3:38 PM

OK - this is gonna make me sound geeky, but here goes: I always thought the craptastic white sneakers accentuated how out of place our Highlander was in the modern age. Nobody, not even in the fashion challened '80s, wore sneakers w/a trench coat - 'cept maybe flashers. Then again - I guess flashers are hiding a different kind of "sword" under their trench coats.

Posted by: GinKirk at November 13, 2007 3:39 PM

Ben Kingsly in Sexy Beast and Gary Oldman in True Romance. Two of the finest actors as two of the foulest characters.

Posted by: djganesh at November 13, 2007 3:44 PM

Good call on Jones as Thulsa Doom. I am more heartened that you picked Hauer from the original "Hitcher." I almost blew chunks When C. Thomas Howell nearly takes a bite on a finger in that flick.

Posted by: Mr. West at November 13, 2007 4:06 PM

The thing I like the most about Hannibal Lecter and Bill (from Kill Bill) is that, despite their psychotic tendencies, I still love them! They're still the smartest person in the movie.

I think that's probably the MOST horrendous thing about each of these villains, however gruesome and terrible they may be I still like them and I still think they're damn clever.

I also feel that way about Kevin Spacey in Se7en. Oh how I wish you had included him. The most frightening thing about his character is the absolute genius in him. No, we can't sympathize with him but in some sick sort of way, we see the "logic" behind it and we're DRAWN to his character.

I often find that the most dangerous quality in a villain - a villain who can be so incomprehensibly wretched yet possess a sort of magnetism that you can't help but be drawn to.

Posted by: citizen_cris at November 13, 2007 4:07 PM

You don't know shit, you suck "Richildis," the best movie villain is Tim Curry as.... whatever the hell he was on Legend "we are ALL animals dear lady." followed closely by Rutger Hauer on Nighthawks..."you'll go to a better life...."

Your write-up was extremely difficult to follow, seriously lady, WTF?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 13, 2007 5:04 PM

Endullens....

Endullens....?

Seriously? You're gonna go there, eh?

How about "dulls"? Perfectly good word. And it works!

Sorry, Ranylt, I normally enjoy all your contributions here. But after seeing that... word... (??)... in the introduction, I found myself increasingly distracted by your frankly pedantic over-use of modifiers. To the point that I just stopped reading.

Oh, and you forgot Keyser Soze/Verbal Kint in The Usual Suspects: Any character who can spin a story that makes an entire police department chase their tails (tales?) and then gimp out smiling, leaving The Man holding his dick in his hands is the greatest movie villain in history.

Posted by: Tiddo at November 13, 2007 5:10 PM

Genius list! Really good choices and good villains are hard to find. Almost easy to write them, and play them, flat.
What about the Agent in Serenity? Would you call him an anti-hero or a villain? Because, if villain, he gets my vote all the way.

Posted by: Ellison at November 13, 2007 5:13 PM

I'm coming to get you!! How could you leave my Preacher off this list?

Posted by: Robert O. Mitchum at November 13, 2007 5:43 PM

i don't know, i'd have to go with Henry Fonda as Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West as the best Western villain ... i mean, 15 seconds after you 1st see his face on screen he's killing a child in cold blood AND mind-fucking an accomplice into taking guilt over it ...

another good western villain (though way more sympathetic than most) is Hackman's Little Bill Daggett, from Unforgiven.

How about The Humongous from The Road Warrior?

Posted by: shoulders of orion at November 13, 2007 5:52 PM

How about Ash (from first Alien flick) and Burke (from the second)? I know Ash is a robot and Burke was supposedly just following orders, but isn't that what villains do? They do horrible things and believe they are justified.

Posted by: LL at November 13, 2007 5:53 PM

Good list. Although, I can't believe Prince Humperdink wasn't on it - he's multi-layered and unconventional but there's no whiff of anti-hero, he's pure slime. I mean, if Frank-n-Furter makes it...

Posted by: Ling at November 13, 2007 6:02 PM

We shouldn't expect anything less from a heavy who delivers lines like "Crucify him on the Tree of Woe" (perhaps the single most sulphurous command ever uttered on film). Only the finest villains even have a Tree of Woe, so points ought to be accorded.

Thank you, thank you for this statement! "But does he have a Tree of Woe?" is now the Villain Gold Standard in the Meander Lists.

Suddenly the poised commandant is a sniveling civilian (a feat of acting marred only by Rickman's imperfect Yankee accent).

He was improvising -- I've always forgiven him that.

Doyle from Slingblade.

He needed to die, villain-style -- Like many of you, I've met this guy, too.

Posted by: Meander at November 13, 2007 6:03 PM

This was the best list EVER! Thanks!

Posted by: ph at November 13, 2007 6:04 PM

I guess Tim was "Darkness" in "Legend"? I think that's how he was credited.

I remember watching "Conan" one night after everyone was asleep and the family room was dark and it was the climax on the pyramid and HOLY SHIT was James creeping me out.

For some reason Malfeator from "Witchboard" seriously got to me, even though I knew that was ludicrous. Also, can Palpatine get an amen?

Posted by: Jay at November 13, 2007 6:16 PM

Tiddo: I suspect "endullens" is a play on "embiggens", which is a perfectly cromulent word.


(Watch the Simpsons. Your vocabulary will embiggen wonderfully.)


I enjoyed this list, but comparing Christopher Lambert's voice to gym socks? Really? Perhaps I just have a fetish for gravelly voices, but I do adore his. It's the most attractive thing about him.

Also throwing in my two cents regarding favorite villains: Francis Dohlarhyde in Red Dragon. There's a villain who's seductive, scary and pitiable--the scene where he eats the Blake drawing in an effort to escape his psychosis is one of my favorites in film.

Posted by: minorblue at November 13, 2007 6:17 PM

Wonderful list. I'm pleased to see that Rhoda Penmark character gets the attention she deserves. It was the first role I played in my high school theatre career and it's taken for granted how difficult it is to act like a psychotic child without making a teenage audience snicker a little.

Even though I thought Culkin was pretty chilling in a similar role, I thought McCormack did a wonderful job and really set the bar high for creepy little kids everywhere.

Posted by: lex at November 13, 2007 6:21 PM

This may sound crazy if you haven't seen Wait Until Dark, but Alan Arkin's Harry Roat Jr. ("from Scarsdale") scared the shit out of me back in the day. Those dark glasses. That creaky, amused-yet-indifferent voice. Shudder.

And the whole Nurse Ratched thing? And using sexuality against her? In the book, she is finally defeated when her dress is ripped away, exposing her (gasp) breast. No one fears her after that ... "just a woman," and all.

Posted by: creatureteacher at November 13, 2007 6:44 PM

What, no Khan? Intelligent, charismatic, slightly megalomaniacal, hellbent on revenge because of his wife's death, and played by Ricardo Montalban perfectly - could anyone else have played him with enough angst to balance out the Shat?

Posted by: funtime42 at November 13, 2007 6:45 PM

Good point, Lex. But Culkin played a creepy little kid in all his films.

Posted by: rlr260 at November 13, 2007 6:47 PM

Word, Robert O. Mitchum, but you scare me, just a little.

Posted by: AllGussiedUp at November 13, 2007 6:57 PM

MinorBlue:

Ok. Perhaps. But I think my original criticism still stands.

Thanks!

Posted by: tiddo at November 13, 2007 7:04 PM

Along the lines of Doyle Hargreaves, I nominate Bob Ewell (James Anderson) from To Kill a Mockingbird. God, I hated him when I watched that movie as a kid. That actor added a dimension I didn't imagine in reading the book--that nasty, spittle-flecked sneer.

Robert Mitchum's villain in Cape Fear was pretty awful, too--possibly even worse than in Night of the Hunter.

Posted by: ak at November 13, 2007 7:18 PM

Sorry if anyone already mentioned this but, how about Palpatine (not the idiotic cackling moron)but, as the scheming manipulator/corrupter. Two scenes:

1. End of EpII, when he welcomes Tyrannus at the end: "Welcome home...you've done well..." (DOOODE he's totally gonna have you killed)

2. Ep III the story of Darth Plagueis (sp?)"the wise"...."he could save others from death...but not himself" the way Ian just savored that scene.


Yeah, I'm a Star Wars GEEK, so what? I don't need to justify every little thing to you people.

SCREW YOU!

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 13, 2007 7:19 PM

fab list ranylt, that was a good read. i'll be revisiting some old favourites this weekend!

i'll probably sound petty to bring it up but i really wish the "heroines" list from a few weeks back had this much effort put into it.

Posted by: sandoll at November 13, 2007 7:26 PM

Best list ever?Seriously?

I admit,I like most of the choices.But the thing seemed to just go on and on,like a song you'd put on & forget it was playing after a bit.No offense to anyone.

Posted by: Carla at November 13, 2007 7:29 PM

Baby Jane Hudson in What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?

Otherwise, great list. I mean, who else includes Daughters of Darkness outside of the IMDB horror board on this kind of list?

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2007 7:45 PM

wait, wait, what about Jeff Bridges in "The Vanishing"? he's an organized killer with great parenting skills!!!

Posted by: goldend at November 13, 2007 8:02 PM

WE should not forget the Wicked Queen in Snow White.

Posted by: Arkansan at November 13, 2007 8:12 PM

While he may leech more audience sympathy than Buffalo Bill, the presence of Clarice Starling (our true locus) bars Lecter from anti-hero classification and permits him to fully inhabit his end of the point-counterpoint hero/villain dynamic.

Bull. He never plays a villain to Clarice, and never outright harms her even when he's free to. With Clarice as the hero, he's an anti-hero through and through.

Posted by: Colin at November 13, 2007 8:20 PM

In lieu of a Tree of Woe, I'd recommend owning a mine to count for villain points. I can think of at least two movies where mines obviously indicated villainy--Lord of the Ring: the Two Towers, and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. I submit that as soon as you figure out the guy owns a mine, you can be ready for some serious meglomania.

Posted by: Sally at November 13, 2007 8:49 PM

Meandering as it may have been, Gangs of New York holds one of my favorite villians of all time. Daniel Day-Lewis RELISHES the role of Bill the Butcher so much that the thought of Robert De Niro almost having been cast as him sickens me, and I LOVE me some Robert De Niro (so long as it's not in something that he's, well, starred in over the past decade and a half).

Posted by: Fernando at November 13, 2007 9:12 PM

HAL 9000, and I really don't have anything to add.

Posted by: schlimmbesserung at November 13, 2007 9:53 PM

Annie Wilkes was created by Stephen King to embody his addictions to alcohol and cocaine as per King's own admission in On Writing.

Posted by: Azraelle at November 13, 2007 10:13 PM

Great list. I want to point out one more thing that makes Bill (Kill Bill) such a great villian. The fact that he actually murdered O-Ren's father (the animated portion of the movie that explains O-ren's history gives us that brief tid bit.) and STILL went on to recruit her and keep her loyalty speaks volumes to just how manipulative his powers of evil are.
And I love the fact that he massacred all of those people and simply dismisses it as "I overreacted." Awesome.

Posted by: cmoody at November 13, 2007 10:23 PM

Oh yeah. Thanks for giving us a list that we could really sink our teeth into.

Posted by: cmoody at November 13, 2007 10:24 PM

As always, Ranylt, great stuff.

I'd argue, however, that Vader becomes and anti-hero in ROTJ. *pushes up glasses

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at November 13, 2007 10:30 PM

Great list. I remember as a kid watching Richard Burton in The Medusa Touch, he was a Villain for the ages.

Posted by: Pookie at November 13, 2007 11:07 PM

A few glaring omissions:
Nurse Ratched (as mentioned several times before)
The Warden from Shawshank Redemption
Mr. Potter from It's A Wonderful Life

Posted by: KiwiBrownn at November 13, 2007 11:25 PM

Excuse me cmoody, but what the fuck? Sorry for having to cuss, but Bill murdered O-Ren's father? Just watched this movie the other day, and the guy who killed O-Ren's daddy didn't look like Bill, unless Bill looks like a Asian guy with black hair. The Bill I saw in the movies was a non-Asian guy. But hey, I could be wrong.

Love,
Emily

Posted by: Emily at November 13, 2007 11:29 PM

Al Pacino as Richard III, in, Looking for Richard.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 14, 2007 12:10 AM

Third paragraph, third word. I'm pretty sure you mean 'parameters' not 'perimeters.'

Otherwise, a really great list.

Damn, how'd I miss that one? Fixed. --RR

Posted by: Ella at November 14, 2007 12:28 AM

Well, damn, I've got some netflixing to do...

I do appreciate that you make a distinction between "villian" and "anti-hero" more than you imagine. I keep having to explain that to people and they stare and me blankly and it's so infuriating. And I totally agree on Hannibal Lecter. His intelligence makes him that much more frightening, because I keep wondering what makes him think his way of life is correct and if I'm just too stupid to see it.

Posted by: Rusty at November 14, 2007 12:57 AM

The evil warden from The Green Mile, played by Doug Hutchison. Who coincidently played an excellent X-Files villain, Tooms.
I doubt that guy could ever convince us he wasn't evil.

In the movies Just Before Dawn and Wrong Turn, the villains were entire families of insane mountain people. I think they qualify as villains because they definitely put some thought into their strategy when they hunted the tourists.

Posted by: Loob at November 14, 2007 1:02 AM

I recently re-watched the animated Animal Farm (1954-55) and was shocked at how horrific Napoleon the pig is. I found him more villainous in the film than the book (although of course the book is awesome) the way he turns the puppies into killing machines so vile that their murders are to much even for the crow to watch is terrifying.

Also, Robert De Niro as the devil, (calmly and creepily peeling those boiled eggs, ugh) in Angel Heart is pretty villainous.

Posted by: LuluJ at November 14, 2007 1:21 AM

I third the Palpatine love; don't care much for the new trilogy, but the cackling version from ROTJ has been my favorite villain forever.
On that note, how is it that no one's mentioned Grand Moff Tarkin yet? Not only does he blow up an Entire Planet (and a peaceful one to boot) just to make a point, but he's also quite clearly the boss of Darth Vader. How much more villainous can you get?

Posted by: Pen Dragon at November 14, 2007 2:42 AM

When I was a kid, "The Bad Seed" is the only movie I actually had to turn off, it scared me so much. I find it telling that my father thought "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" was inappropriate but watching a psychotic little girl murder people sans remorse was fine for small children to watch.

I enjoyed this list. I haven't seen all of these movies, but I, too, appreciated the distinction between villain and anti-hero. At times it did feel a bit like an essay, but it was well-written and obviously done with love. Well done.

Posted by: Brianne at November 14, 2007 3:00 AM

I'm throwing my hat into the ring for the addition of Nurse Ratched to the Celluloid Villain Hall of Fame - never have I so thoroughly wanted to climb through the screen and personally throttle a character to death (well, except for in Adam Sandler movies, but that's not quite the same thing).

Also, much kudos for the inclusion of John Ryder - The Hitcher is a seriously disturbing film. Love the scene where Hauer licks the pennies and puts them over C. Thomas Howell's (that is the actor playing the good guy, right?) eyes.

Posted by: Dill The Devil at November 14, 2007 4:09 AM

Interesting list, although I didn't finish reading it since I dislike the style in which it's written. Too many words and shit. I'm not complaining, mind! I'm just saying. I am a misogynist and cannot stand brainy females, but what ya gonna do, huh? The times we live in... I should have lived in 15th century, I guess. All this lovely burning witches at the stake, mmm... Anyhow, here's my contribution:
1. James Coburn in "Affliction". Repugnant and scary.
2. John Huston as Noah Cross in "Chinatown". Evil personified.
3. Christopher Walken in "True Romance" and "King of New York". Actually, Walken is scary in whatever he does, regardless.
4. Harvey Keitel in "Bad Leutenant". Support your friendly neibourhood policeman, ladies!
5. Bette Davis in "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?" and "Hush... Hush, Sweet Charlotte". Batshit crazy, brittle, scary and funny.
6. "Squeal, piggy!" guy in "Deliverance". I knew someone like that once. Not closely (he-he), but I knew a creep like that many moons ago. He is dead now and I am glad.
7. Ed Harris in "A History of Violence". Just plain scary motherfucker, no? Oh yes, he is.

There are more, but I don't want to be a bore. Ha! It rhymes! Man, I am good.

Posted by: Toothed Varmint at November 14, 2007 4:25 AM

Excellent list and a fine diversion from the morning's work - so thank you for that.

Posted by: Alex the Odd at November 14, 2007 5:38 AM

Ranylt is fast becoming one of my favourite reviewers on this site. The shit storm she started the other day with The Lions for Lambs review and now a fucking great villains list.
Lovely stuff.

Posted by: The Chief at November 14, 2007 6:01 AM

Someone mentioned Ben Kingsley/Don Logan from Sexy Beast, but I've always considered Begbie in Trainspotting to be the better villain of that type, the "friend" you never actually want around. Such a complete, freak-out-at-any-moment lunatic.

And yeah, Mitchum in Night of the Hunter was the most perfect "philosophical psycho" ever.

Posted by: Todd at November 14, 2007 9:36 AM

excellent choices, and well thought out...the Kurgan gave me the heebie-jeebies every one of the 500 times my ex-husband made us watch the Highlander

Posted by: lateformyfuneral at November 14, 2007 9:36 AM

Teddy Bass.

Posted by: Pookie at November 14, 2007 10:09 AM

Ok THANK YOU. Not only was that description of El Capitan brilliant and one of the best pieces of character description I've ever read (seriously), but this list has just given me fresh new ideas for Movie Night in my household. Things were getting stale around here (last night is an example: Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein, ok?) and we needed some new ideas. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Off to try to find a few of those.

Posted by: Kathy at November 14, 2007 11:03 AM

One villain who I always thought was just plain evil to the core was Clarence Bodigger (sp?) from RoboCop.

He relished in shooting Murphy/Peter Weller's hand off and displayed no redeeming qualities throughout the entire film. A wonderful villain through and through.

Posted by: Greg P. at November 14, 2007 11:06 AM

mustn't nitpick . . . mustn't nitpick . . . (failed saving throw) AHHHHHHHHHGGGGG

"Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe. Crucify him."

Posted by: ponch at November 14, 2007 11:15 AM

Clarence Bodigger

Bodicker! And yes, absolutely. One of the vilest and craziest screen villains. Excellent addition!

Posted by: Toothed Varmint at November 14, 2007 11:22 AM

Great list....the ones I know about I heartily agree with, and the ones I'm not familiar with have been put on my wishlist (to be acquired either for Christmas or after). I would also like to put in my nomination...Tim Robbins character in Arlington Road. he is completely manipulative, remorseless, willing to do anything to ensure his objectives are met, and so much smarter than everyone around him. It still gives me chills to watch that movie.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at November 14, 2007 12:13 PM

I gotta add Michael Chambon's character from The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and her Lover.
I remember Greenaway saying that he wanted to create a villain that had none of the charisma that Darth Vader had, a villain that was utterly gross and pathetic.

Posted by: imk at November 14, 2007 1:25 PM

Kevin Longrie's got me cracking up.

and I'm on team Big Nurse as well. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is my all-time favorite book. She was thrice as evil in print.

And kudos to creatureteacher for reminding me of Harry Roat, Jr., definitely one of the most chilling bad-asses ever! Alan Arkin at his most awesome. He was barely even human in that movie.

Posted by: domo<>arigato at November 14, 2007 1:32 PM

Emily, if you watch that scene closely you will see that it is Bill. Its his sword, its his ring and even if the animation makes him look slightly Asian, it is definitely a young Bill.

Posted by: cmoody at November 14, 2007 2:46 PM

Oh and cursing never bothers me. So long as its not a personal attack on me.


By the way, the only way I know this is because I have watched that movie well over 75 times since it was released. I know every word by heart. I also think they parallell two scenes very nicely. The animated scene where the killer is sitting in the chair with his hand (ring facing outward) is on the hilt of his sword. And Bill talking to Daryl Hannah's character on the phone (when he is telling her not to give the Bride the injection of poison) sitting in the exact same position.

I personally didn't think the character looked Asian, I assumed they were trying to capture the permanent squint Carradine has going.

Posted by: cmoody at November 14, 2007 3:01 PM

Hey, would Francis Begbie from "Trainspotters" be considered a villian? What about Arthur Burnes from "The Proposition" or Mr. Blonde from "Reservoir Dogs"? Some other damn nice villians that you should consider adding to your list are... Noah Cross from "Chinatown"
Albert Spica from "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover" (already listed)
Roger "Verbal" Kint, a.k.a. Keyser Söze in "The Usual Suspect"
Reverend Harry Powell from "The Night of the Hunter"
Gaear Grimsrud from "Fargo"/ Anton Chigurh from "No Country For Old Men" (damn, that one's listed too)
Aaron Stampler from "Primal Fear"
Don Logan in "Sexy Beast"
Cody Jarett in "White Heat" (Wait, is he an anti-hero?)
Zé Pequeno, a.k.a Li'l Dice/Li'l Zé in "City of God"
The Duke, the Bishop, the Magistrate, and the President from Salo/120 Days of Sodom
Edgler Vess from "Intensity"

I think the best would probably be Frank Booth from "Blue Velvet" though.

Posted by: Mr. Dude at November 14, 2007 4:11 PM

Bagger Vance.

Posted by: Pookie at November 14, 2007 4:38 PM

Um, I know this is way too late for it to matter, but clevername, the phrase "American Idol pre-pubed fawning douchewaffle" nearly made me fall off my chair with laughter. Just sayin'.

In any case, a fantastic list, especially for its diversity. Also, the definitions of anti-hero vs. villain vs. supervillain were excellent. I'll be keeping them in mind next time I get into an argument in film class about it.

Posted by: kalexal at November 14, 2007 4:43 PM

Toothed Varmint-- Bette Davis was not the villain in Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte, Olivia de Havilland was. Bette Davis was the victim, convinced she was crazy because she didn't remember killing her lover and everyone in town thought she did. In fact, her lover was killed by his wife (Jewel Mayhew) and Miriam (Olivia de Havilland, Charlotte's poorer cousin) has been blackmailing Jewel for years, plus making sure that Charlotte stays on the brink of insanity just to torture the poor bitch.

Bette Davis was EXCELLENT in that movie. I watch it all the time. But if you want villain, you need look no further than OdH who managed to keep playing the sweet girl she always seemed to play, but still let the evil, vindictive bitch shine through.

GOD I love Hitchcock!

Posted by: Scarlett at November 14, 2007 9:56 PM

Harry Lime from The Third Man.

Darth Vader, of course, even if he does make the omission list.

Frances Begbie!

Li'l Ze/Li'l Dice from City Of God. Immediately transcendent and memorable villain.

Bill The Butcher from Gangs Of New York.

I know this might seem silly, but I think this film is very underrated, the final showdown rules, and it's the only time I can remember this person playing a villain because she is so not a villain: Patricia Watson (Julia Roberts) in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind.

And the newest and very worthy addition to the list: Anton Chigurh from No Country For Old Men.

Posted by: Darth Corleone at November 15, 2007 12:20 AM

Oh, and I thought the better Kurosawa "Lady Macbeth" was the one in Ran.

Posted by: Darth Corleone at November 15, 2007 12:33 AM

And someone mentioned Jeff Bridges from The Vanishing?!? Do yourself a big favor and watch the infinitely superior original film from the Netherlands. Bernard-Pierre Donnadieu has the villain role in that version.

Posted by: Darth Corleone at November 15, 2007 12:47 AM

Mr Dude felt compelled to add this tidbit to his list additions: The Duke, the Bishop, the Magistrate, and the President from Salo/120 Days of Sodom

Oh God, why on Earth did you have to remind me of that fucking cinematic abacination?

[sob] Now I have to go douche my soul...

Posted by: canology at November 15, 2007 3:54 AM

Toothed Varmint-- Bette Davis was not the villain in Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte, Olivia de Havilland was.

Thank you, I stand corrected. But she is definitely the villain in "Whatever Happened to BJ?" though, I know that much! :)
I shall also add Anne Baxter from "All about Eve" and, probably, Joan Crowford from "Mildred Pierce". Oh, and Barbara Stanwyck from "Double Idemnity"! Spider-ladies!

Posted by: Toothed Varmint at November 15, 2007 4:12 AM

I fuckin' hate Pasolini BTW. Mostly for "Salo",but anyway - he is just so overrated.
As for Hitchcock - he made a couple of good films. Well, maybe four or five.

Posted by: Toothed Varmint at November 15, 2007 4:15 AM

Great list. When I saw the choice for Lady Asaji Washizu from "Throne of Blood", I instantly thought of Lady Kaede from "Ran", who is one of my favorite villainesses.

But I can't help but throw in two more. Bill the Butcher from Gangs of New York, and Aaron from Julie Taymor's Titus. Two of my favorite villains of all time.

Posted by: Ian at November 15, 2007 4:23 AM

I'd like to offer up a vote for David Lo Pan from Big Trouble in Little China.

"Oh, this really pisses me off to no end!"

Posted by: Craig at November 15, 2007 4:26 AM

Bad Seed traumatized me when my fifth grade teacher brought it in for us to watch! That girl creeped me out majorly, like pushing the old lady down the stairs and her whole tap-dancing murder shoes schtick. Eeegah, it still gives me the shivers to think about.

Posted by: Cait at November 16, 2007 1:42 PM

"and for murmuring do you find me sadistic? to the woman whose head is about to be blown open by his angling shotgun"

it was actually a six shooter (actually the same one he pointed at her in v2 at the end).

Posted by: razh at November 16, 2007 2:05 PM

Actually, in the end, weren't Riff Raff & Magenta the real villains of Rocky Horror? The bizarre incestuous brother and sister who turned out to be alien KGB that killed Frankie for his wanton sexual experimentation? I always thought Frankie was the anti-hero.

And I agree with whoever nominated Nurse Ratchet, my God what an evil bitch!

Posted by: Clevelandchick at November 17, 2007 1:37 PM

Pazuzu (Mercedes McCambridge), The Exorcist

Richard Gloucester (Ian McKellen), Richard III

Frank (Henry Fonda), Once Upon a Time in the West

T-1000 (Robert Patrick), Terminator 2

Little Bill Daggett (Gene Hackman), Unforgiven

Darth Maul (Ray Park), The Phantom Menace

Louis Cyphere (Robert DeNiro), Angel Heart

Jack Byrnes (Robert DeNiro), Meet the Parents

Max Zorin (Christopher Walken), A View to a Kill

Dr. Evil (Mike Myers), Austin Powers

Alonzo Harris (Denzel Washington), Training Day

Hal 9000 (Douglas Rain), 2001: A Space Odyssey

Salieri (F. Murray Abraham), Amadeus

Nicky Santoro (Joe Pesci), Casino

Johnny Ringo (Michael Biehn), Tombstone

Commodus (Joaquin Phoenix), Gladiator

Lex Luthor (Michael Rosenbaum), Smallville

Bill Lumbergh (Gary Cole), Office Space

Nathan R. Jessep (Jack Nicholson), A Few Good Men

Jaws (Richard Kiel), Moonraker, et al

Edward Longshanks (Patrick McGoohan), Braveheart

Lt. Coffey (Michael Biehn), The Abyss

The Joker (Jack Nicholson), Batman

Barney Cousins (Jeff Bridges), The Vanishing

Count Olaf (Jim Carrey), A Series of Unfortunate Events

Biff Tannen (Thomas F. Wilson), Back to the Future

Khan (Ricardo Montalban), Star Trek II

The Kurgan (Clancy Brown), Highlander

Al Capone (Robert DeNiro), The Untouchables

Vincent (Tom Cruise), Collateral

Miranda Priestley (Meryl Streep), The Devil Wears Prada

Satan (Rosalinda Celentano), The Passion of the Christ

Zod (Terence Stamp), Superman II

Posted by: King at November 20, 2007 2:18 PM