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So that happened.

Last Friday, I cautioned that the finale of “Battlestar Galactica” might be a disappointment. Now that it’s played out, was it a disappointment? As I’m writing this, I’ve read very little online reaction, because I want to come to my own conclusions relatively unaffected by the masses (in fact, I haven’t even read the 40+ post-finale comments y’all left on Friday’s column). Nevertheless, I suspect that some very much found it a disappointment, while others absolutely loved it. And I think there’s room for everyone to be right because this was ultimately a polarizing finale, and the takeaway is going to depend a lot on the viewer’s perspective and expectations.

That being said, while the finale was a mixed bag for me, the scales definitely tip towards Content rather than Disappointed. There was some disappointment, yes, but god damned the episode was absolutely breathtaking. On the whole, it was a relatively worthy conclusion to a groundbreaking series, albeit with a manipulative coda.

While watching the episode, I was totally enthralled. As I previously speculated, the first hour from last week worked much better as part of the collective three-hour finale, as it was intended to air. For some, it laid out character context for the final hours. For example, by giving us a more fleshed-out version of Baltar’s backstory and his attempts to escape the shadow of his father, Baltar’s final line of the series (“you know, I know about farming”) was given more poignancy than it otherwise might have carried. Similarly, we were able to understand that Anders’ final moments actually served as an achievement of the mathematical perfection he so desperately sought, we were able to see Roslin regain a content sense of family and hope that had been ripped away from her before the Fall, and Tigh and Ellen finally get to just be. That first hour also showed us pivotal moments that put some of these characters, like chess pieces, in the places they needed to be in order for humanity to eventually and ultimately (?) find its salvation. For instance, Adama not retiring and choosing to stay in the military, Roslin deciding to abandon frivolous frolicking with former students to join a political campaign that would result in her eventually becoming President, and Starbuck trying to figure out fate’s plan for her and ultimately ensuring that, for at least for a few Earth, Jr. generations, she wouldn’t be forgotten (more on her, most assuredly, below).

In fact, looking at the series as a character study, this finale worked incredibly well. We were given strong beats a long time coming, such as the minor redemption and subsequent execution (again) of Boomer. Helo and Athena, along with their mitochondrial Eve, finally get to be the perfect little family unit. And Tyrol, after repeated betrayals and an inability to truly come to grips with the revelation of his true nature, decides to abandon everyone for the highlands of Scotland. If you’ve always enjoyed the show as a character piece, I think the finale worked very well with few letdowns. Where the finale likely disappointed many, however, is on the plot side of things.

While the show has always had a large focus on characters, and even though Ron Moore never even wanted the “and they have a plan” tag in the early season intros (he was forced into by the network and the purpose of the upcoming movie, “The Plan,” is to address these five little words), the mythology and mysteries of the show are what kept many of the fans as enraptured as they were over four seasons. Further, these plot mechanizations are also why, on the whole, each season was generally at its strongest in the beginning and end, when the plot pieces were being put into motion or concluded. And particularly given how strong each season’s conclusions have generally been, it felt like they punted a bit, here, on the plot side of things.

Don’t get me wrong — I recognize that the show has always had a large religious element to it, and even though I’m an unrepentant and blasphemous sonuvabitch, I love that “Battlestar” tried to incorporate an unpatronizing sense of religion in with everything else that was going on. So I’m not entirely disappointed with how much God (or whatever name it is that It likes) came into play. But while the visual of the Opera House being realized was cool and well played out, it didn’t really mean much. I mean, yes, it meant everything, insofar as this moment was the climactic moment for both the human and cylon civilizations (and for the record — I did read an interview with Ron Moore where he explains that the Colony was actually nuked into the singularity, something which was apparently lost in the final edit). But if we hadn’t had all the Opera House visions over the years, I’m not sure these beats would’ve played out much differently to me, on a substantive level. Religious visions are generally portrayed as providing guidance, but the characters weren’t really acting on what they had seen in the visions (aside from Baltar and Caprica going into the Opera House/CIC, which they would’ve done anyway, as they didn’t really have anywhere else to turn). While it made sense, if you’re willing to buy into the religious angle, it just felt a little thin.

And then there were the angels.

I imagine some folks hated this through and through. Personally, I wanted a “cool” explanation behind the so-called Head Six and Head Baltar. And yet, I was a bit surprised to find that I was totally ok with the revelation that they’re nothing more than angel/demons/agents of the Almighty. (Aside: am I the only one who desperately wants a Head Six/Baltar spin-off show, featuring them as a type of modern-day Aziraphale and Crowley (Good Omens)?). The world created by this show is one where there are visions and prophecies, so why not angels appearing to folks and muddling things up, sometimes for the better, sometimes not?

That being said, I’m was not at all on board with Kara Thrace, angel blazing with the light of god. This, like nothing else, feels like a complete “making it up as we go along” bit of business. Shit, during the moment when she realized her purpose, the editors even had to cheat to relay what was going on to us. There was a cut to Leoban telling her she was an angel — however, unless I’m mistaken, that’s a rather old clip, and while we know that Leoban originally believed that Starbuck had some sort of mystical destiny, we also know that he seemed to abandon all that after becoming scared utterly shitless when he found the burnt viper (now with freshly rotting corpse!). So I’m not so sure he really believed, then or now, that Starbuck was actually an angel, yet the editors latched onto this clip of dialog from back-when, and threw it as us like “that’s all you need to know.” And if she’s an angel, she’s clearly a different thing than the Head Six and Baltar, who only appeared as non-corporeal visions to a single person (until the amusing moment when Caprica and Baltar jointly saw them), whereas the angel Kara was “real,” capable of living and breathing and drinking and frakking. Yet no no resolution to this, or to Kara’s nature, was provided, and ultimately she just ups and poofs.

At the time I first watched this, I was pissed. I leaned forward and muttered something like “fucking cop-out.” But, given some time to ruminate, I’ve come to grips with it — it is what it is. The biggest takeaway from the show and this finale in particular is that there’s a divine hand in the mix — yes, there is free will, but there’s also something greater which folks can choose to be a part of. And here, they did choose to be a part of it, and they were led to their ultimate salvation. And the resurrected Kara was just part of that divine hand, having led humanity to its end, just as the hybrid predicted. The only difference between this as a deus ex machina and the literal divine hand in the form of Racetrack’s corpse sending send some nukes to say “hello” to the colony is that this had been so built up and play-out over the course of a season. Because of that, I think that the “answers” were were given about Kara were not, ultimately, satisfying, but I find myself willing and able to just let it go.

Besides, whereas some of the plot tie-ups may have left something to be desired, you can’t say the same for the finale’s outstanding action and special effects sequences. The massive assault on the Colony was nothing short of spectacular. Visually, it was the strongest special effecty work the show has ever done (though, for my money, it still doesn’t top the awesomeness of Galactica dropping into New Caprica’s atmosphere simply because that moment was so, well, simple). The action of the ground troop assaults, including all the old-school and modern-day toasters, was just fun. And all of this was countered by the subsequent scenes on Earth, Jr., truly cinematic and gorgeous shots that remind you just how pent up folks have been (but for the few mostly unseen years on New Caprica) since the Fall.

As for the settlement on Earth, Jr., following the almost-truce, here too I suspect some folks were disappointed. As voiced by Lampkin, it is hard to believe that everyone would so willingly split up all over the world, leaving all technology and remaining creature comforts behind. But the writers flippantly punted that concern with Adama’s response that folks shouldn’t “underestimate the desire for a clean slate.” Ok, fine, I can play along with that, I guess, but I won’t forgive you for bitching about it.

And then, after some gorgeous shots, some great goodbyes to beloved characters (Adama giving Roslin his wedding ring might have made a man softer than I a little misty-eyed) and a perfect way to close the show (the pullback shot of Adama on the hillside), we get a heavy-handed Haggis-esque coda.

I’m ok with the notion of the angels Baltar and Six roaming around in Times Square, and I get that it was sorta necessary to give us the exposition that Hera is us, and that we’re essentially all hybrids. Fine. And I’m even ok with the discussion about how the cycle might not repeat this time. However, given how much the show had just emphasized that getting away from technology was actually the apparent salvation to break the cycle, the various robot shots at the end felt like a shot across the bow, a warning that all of this is about to happen again. It felt manipulative and left a bitter taste in my mouth, which isn’t how I want to walk away from this amazing series.

But, as with my issues as to how Kara’s truth was handled, I”ve come to peace with it. At the end of the day, this was a fantastic series, and while this may not have been the best series finale ever, it was strong enough to do the show justice. There are plenty of other things I could nit pick about, but I simply choose not to. I’m already looking forward to a time, 5 or 10 years down the line, when I bust out the DVDs and watch the show from start to finish. And when I get to these final hours, I think that I’ll still feel contented, and miss the show all over again. Which is exactly how a good series finale should make you feel. So say we all.


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Comments

By the Lords of Kobol

Best series finale in the history of this colony So SAY WE ALL!

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 23, 2009 10:06 AM

I cried in the company of four grown-ass men when Roslin died.

I miss the show already :(

Posted by: bots at March 23, 2009 10:10 AM

Just a tiny peeve. What was the importance of Hera? It seems as if it was all for nothing, or it wasn't properly explained what impact, if any, she had as mitochondrial eve. It also would have been nice if they showed what influence all the arrivals had on historical developments.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 23, 2009 10:11 AM

I stand by my comment in the other thread that the ending (not the coda, which just seems a little bit wank-y for me) makes more sense as you think about. So many of the shows emotional tentpoles were about people trying to break out of some cycle, about being something new. Kara trying to break away from the abusive, drunk military mom, Lee tried so hard to break away from the Adama family name that he staged a mutiny once, Danny the art-student who gets stuck working in the fuel ship and gets his hands cut off, Dee and her religious fanatic planet. This entire show has been about saying "Fuck it." and starting over.

I am happy with the end. All hail President Lampkin.

Posted by: JakesAlterEgo at March 23, 2009 10:19 AM

I agree that Kara's storyline did seem very weakly handled, but when she just up and vanished while Lee was eagerly talking about exploring the world, I almost started bawling like a child. That and the sad realization that without Starbuck, Roslin or even Dee, the last two Adamas are all alone.

Not exactly sure why Bill is abandoning Lee, though, but there is a very sad beauty to it. Lee does want to come into his own somehow, I guess, and Bill might have sensed this.

Otherwise, decent finale, but I was expecting more. I'm just sad that it's over more than anything. The Plan should be interesting, but Caprica looks dull.

Posted by: vic at March 23, 2009 10:20 AM

@Barbado

That is my problem, or at least, the saddest part for me. 150,000 years ago is too long ago for them to have impacted us as a society. 10,000 years ago, sure, they could have brought the hunter-gatherers together to form cities and culture, but 150,000 is too far removed from us to have had an impact.

That's kind of sad, actually.

Posted by: JakesAlterEgo at March 23, 2009 10:21 AM

Deus Ex Machina is almost as bad as the "It was all a dream!" ending. I nearly barfed.

Posted by: Keith at March 23, 2009 10:26 AM

@JakesAlterEgo

I hear ya there, if you follow that argument to its logical conclusion the survivors basically reached Earth and died out. Their civilization disappeared.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 23, 2009 10:35 AM

It's not a deus ex machina if the deus has been a character the entire time. And it's not like the god just cleaned everything up with a wave of his hand. Characters still had to act, that was the point.

Posted by: JakesAlterEgo at March 23, 2009 10:36 AM

They didn't necessarily have to die out, they just didn't affect anything on a large scale. Mitochondrial Eve sounds cool, but it's just a way of saying her descendants were all really good at having daughters.

Posted by: JakesAlterEgo at March 23, 2009 10:38 AM

How long will I have to stay away from the internets not to get spoiled?
I'm only halfway through the series. Damn.

Posted by: Adere at March 23, 2009 10:47 AM

I liked it. I thought it was an imperfect ending to an imperfect show, but in a way, it was a show that made sense of its imperfections. It used them to good effect...lots of things in life we never get a satisfying explanation for, and the show mirrored that. That felt right. I'm very glad Kara and Lee weren't left together. Sad though it may be, it would be too happy-ending to go through all their ups and downs only to ride off into the sunset together.

The one thing I take issue with is Cavil offing himself. I don't think that fit. Someone that driven by revenge just giving up? No, that wasn't right.

Posted by: Wednesday at March 23, 2009 11:51 AM

There are only about three things I would have kept from the finale. I would have done all the rest of it differently and still stayed mostly in line with the story up to that point. I didn't like the finale but I loved the show.

I'm gonna go work on my own science fiction now.

Posted by: Jackseppelin at March 23, 2009 11:58 AM

I posted quite a bit in the other thread, including links where Ron Moore explains some of the answers people are seeking. Oh and Seth, Kara is apparently a messiah of some sort, not an angel.

I think, if I understand correctly, Hera was important in that both the cylons and humans had to understand that in order to procreate together, "god" needed to be involved. It seemed that everyone had to come to the conclusion that there was a higher power involved in everything, and once that was accepted, things could progress as they should.

The one thing I take issue with is Cavil offing himself. I don't think that fit.

Moore went that way because of Dean Stockwell believing that's what the character would do. The original ending was supposed to have Tigh offing Cavil by pushing him out into space or something along those lines.

Posted by: Cindy at March 23, 2009 12:22 PM

Adere

What the fuck are you even doing here? Don't spoil the show for yourself, besides I think the end of season 2/beginning of season 3 might have been the start of "um, damn, let's start making shit up now" mode.

The show wasn't perfectly planned out start to finish, but I find myself not caring. It was a great, satisfying finale.

"At the end of the day, this was a fantastic series, and while this may not have been the best series finale ever, it was strong enough to do the show justice."

Amen.

Posted by: Mick J at March 23, 2009 12:23 PM

@ Wednesday

Cavil killing himself fit his character perfectly.

If you think about it, especially after it was shown that he masterminded the final fives current lives and the war, he needs to be in control.

He couldn't be in control of the situation in the CIC. There was no other option of escape.

He controlled his own death. I guess in a way, getting the last laugh.

I didn't like how it was pretty much glossed over. He was hugely important to the fate of Hera and the fleet. I was expecting more, but like how it played out after I've had to time to digest everything.

Posted by: bots at March 23, 2009 12:26 PM

Moore went that way because of Dean Stockwell believing that's what the character would do. The original ending was supposed to have Tigh offing Cavil by pushing him out into space or something along those lines.

Posted by: Cindy at March 23, 2009 12:22 PM
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Moore shouldn't have listened to Stockwell.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 23, 2009 12:30 PM

But he didn't get the last laugh. It was "you win, game over", basically. I would at least think he would try to take out Adama or some other pivotal character (Hera would have been a good choice from his POV) before shooting himself. It happened so quickly you hardly even noticed it.

Posted by: Wednesday at March 23, 2009 12:32 PM

Perhaps Slim. It sure would have been more fun to watch.

Posted by: Cindy at March 23, 2009 12:35 PM

Acually, that may have been the only part of the finale that bugged me. I thought everyone reacted much too quickly when the five unplugged.

Posted by: Cindy at March 23, 2009 12:36 PM

"The important thing, I think, is not to be bitter... if it turns out that there IS a God, I don't think that He's evil. I think that the worst you can say about Him is that basically He's an underachiever. After all, there are worse things in life than death. If you've ever spent an evening with an insurance salesman, you know what I'm talking about."
- Woody Allen, Love and Death

I said it in the earlier thread - it was a very good finale, and a fitting end to the series. A series where there were people with flaws (even the mechanistic Cylons), the faucets leaked and the "best of all possible worlds" meme was interred in the radioactive ashes of Caprica.

My only quibble (if quibble it is) is that there was too much of a happy ending quality to some of the final moments in the episode, which makes the conversation between Head Baltar and Head Six all the more poignant. With the conversation about the Big G-Meister, one could hear Bayle laughing from his grave.

Posted by: The Wanderer at March 23, 2009 12:43 PM

Well, on the whole I was just a little disappointed. While I agree religion and the Hand Of God have been prevalent since the beginning, I prefer my stories to have more human action/consequence than divine intervention. While I understand why they chose to abandon technology I don't think it is really very consistent. I just can't buy 39,000 people all agreeing to "rough it".

I thought it was stated that any of the humans could mate with the indigenous tribes, so why is Hera important? Why is she "Eve"?

Posted by: ed newman at March 23, 2009 1:30 PM

meh. The Kara Thrace 'resolution' was a cop-out. For an angel it took her a long time to figure her shit out.

If it was so important to send the fleet into the sun, what about the Viper Adama left Galatica with and the Raptor he was tooling around in with the please-die-already Laura Roslyn? Just sayin'.

That ending dragged on almost as long as the end of Return of the King, and didn't even have a homoerotic Hobbit scene.

Posted by: ponch at March 23, 2009 2:01 PM

I was surprised by Cavil killing himself, but I think it makes sense in light of that 4.5 episode with the interactions of Cavil and Ellen. Cavil hates his confined, human existence, both the finitude of being in a human body with its limited perceptions and also its frail mortality. I don't know if he thought he could overcome these for himself, but he seems to have thought Hera would guarantee the survival of the Cylons and perhaps allow for the time to improve their too-human design. With the resurrection possibility and Hera taken irretrievably away, I can see him deciding there's no point to continue living. That said, given his anger at life and those responsible for it, I also would have thought he'd try gunning down some of the 5.

My main problem was the choice to abandon all technology. For one, the survivors are submitting themselves to basic, subsistence living, subject to natural disasters and scarcity. The pastoral aspect is charming, so sufficiently equipped, maybe it was enough for the immediate survivors if not their descendants. But more importantly, their knowledge, including their recent lessons, are going to be forgotten relatively soon, so contra Apollo, no progress is going to be made in stopping the cycle for the humans (though maybe for the Centurions who went off on their own). The only hope for Apollo's choice is as Angel Six put it, restart and let something play out enough times, the good result might eventually emerge.

Posted by: verbs at March 23, 2009 2:11 PM

The Galley Slaves guy has another interpretation on Cavil's suicide that is plausible:

"... when the situation goes south and Cavil sees no way out, I like that he chooses suicide. The essence of Cavil is his sadism. Read de Sade and you see that the heart of sadism—more than cruelty, even—is the idea of blasphemy. We’ve been told that they Cylon religion forbids suicide, so for Cavil to off himself is his last fuck you to the God that he insists doesn’t exist, but spends a lot of time and energy rebelling against anyway. Nicely done."

Posted by: verbs at March 23, 2009 2:21 PM

They endlessly document how Tigh is loyal to Adama above anything, anyone...then the series ends with no farewell between them. Huh?
If Kara knew her journey had ended, why didn't she hold hands with Sam as he drove Galactica into the sun? Her last chat with Lee ("Daddy's gone and so am I. L8r!") was a waste of film.
Baltar betrays humanity repeatedly, then gets a happy ending with the uber-blonde? NO, sorry, NOT acceptable. I could tolerate Baltar dying nobly: let him die in the CIC, taking a bullet from Cavil meant for Hera. Then Adama empties his sidearm into Cavil's head.
I didn't like Lee Adama as a character [wacky writers!] for most of the series, but came to respect him in the final season. He ends up little better than Tyrol; alone, unappreciated, doomed to wander a hostile world.
Lee should have helped Six bury Baltar, then said "I feel like exploring. Care to join me?"
The whole coda, after the pullback from Adama, was unnecessary.
Glad Galactica got her final ride into the sunset. The old girl served them well.

Posted by: F.B. Radom at March 23, 2009 3:04 PM

Meh. It's insulting to all their loyal viewers when the writers just pull the ending out of their collective asses. Abandoning all of their technology was stupid, breaking up into such small groups was stupid, Hera in the end not actually being important was lame, the aborted attempt by the Final Five to give resurrection to the Cylons was pointless...

Posted by: CatBallou at March 23, 2009 4:12 PM

As a loyal viewer, I am not insulted. Way to just make things up as you go along.

Posted by: JakesAlterEgo at March 23, 2009 4:25 PM

"Just a tiny peeve. What was the importance of Hera? It seems as if it was all for nothing, or it wasn't properly explained what impact, if any, she had as mitochondrial eve. It also would have been nice if they showed what influence all the arrivals had on historical developments.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 23, 2009 10:11 AM"

Mitochondria are tiny organs in our cells that have their own strands of DNA separate from our genetic make-up. It is also only inherited from mothers. Barring some mutations, your mitochondrial DNA is the same as your great-great-great-great-great grandmother, possibly going all the way back to whomever Eve is. Hence, the article Ron Moore was reading at the end about Mitochondrial Eve, humanity's oldest common ancestor. It was Hera. The implication is that there was no "missing link" between Homo Erectus and Homo Sapiens, modern humans are all a cross breed of alien humanoids and skin jobs.

I mean, how much more of an explained impact do you want? They said specifically, "humanity's oldest common ancestor."

Posted by: Gabi at March 23, 2009 5:01 PM

Agree with everything Seth, Barbado & JakesAlterEgo said.

One question bugged me though: if Hera was so damn important and Athena apparently fell pregnant on the first try, didn't it occur to them to go again? Every good plan needs a backup.

Posted by: Dave Shepherd at March 23, 2009 5:07 PM

God, the ultimate deus ex machina.

Posted by: csb at March 23, 2009 5:27 PM

@ Gabi

Close. Mitochondrial Eve isn't our oldest common ancestor, it's our youngest. Clearly, we're also descended from other people who were alive at Mitochondrial Eve's time, but they left sons. Eve has an unbroken female chain.

Also, Helo and Athena seemed to fuck. A lot. I wouldn't say they were trying for another kid, but they were certainly practicing.

Posted by: JakesAlterEgo at March 23, 2009 5:54 PM

Did I see Dee wearing beige in the CIC just as they were about to attack the colony?

Posted by: eyedropper at March 23, 2009 6:15 PM

...so if Boomer fell pregnant after her deceptafuck with Helo (only on BSG), she could have returned Hera somehow and buggered off for good. There's a resolution that would have thrown a few people.

Sounds like a loose end anyway. No doubt there see some, err "enterprising" fan fic exploring Helo and Athena's sex life at some point in the future.

Posted by: Dave Shepherd at March 23, 2009 6:16 PM

I totally cried. I thought it was one of the best series finales I've ever seen. I will miss the hell out of BSG but at least I've had closure.

Posted by: wandereraz at March 23, 2009 6:58 PM

Seems to me that if a writer gets you folks to shed a few tears, he can get away with bloody murder the rest of the time.

Posted by: Leaf at March 23, 2009 7:16 PM

Posted by: Gabi at March 23, 2009 5:01 PM


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Oooooh, thank you.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 23, 2009 7:26 PM

The great Lee Adama one of the greatest soliders in the galaxy owned by a damn pidgeon.

Seeing Bill vomit on himself, ewww.

Posted by: Coltaine at March 23, 2009 8:36 PM

Adama giving Roslin his wedding ring might have made a man softer than I a little misty-eyed

I guess that would make me a softer man than you. Though to be fair I watched this at 1 am after having a pretty depressing evening.

Posted by: the_wakeful at March 23, 2009 9:05 PM

God, the ultimate deus ex machina.

No, deus in machina.

Posted by: FabMax at March 23, 2009 9:09 PM

The first half was awesome. Robots and explosions and philosophical monologues rock my world.

The second half was kinda dumb. It was pretty, and it had some touching moments, but it was such a cop out. As Uncle Ben says, "With great power comes great responsibility." Technology is power, so rather than take responsibility for that power, they decided to get rid of it entirely. Of course it was bound to show up again, so all they did was shirk their responsibility and pass the buck to the future. I would have been more interested in an ending that actually took responsibility, even if that meant a great deal more sacrifice than they'd already been through.

"You cannot play God then wash your hands of the things that you’ve created. Sooner or later, the day comes when you can’t hide from the things that you’ve done anymore." Power is inevitable, so the only wise course of action is to take responsibility for the power you have rather than to give it up and allow it to corrupt someone else.

Posted by: Lucas at March 23, 2009 10:43 PM

I actually chuckled at the end with the shots of recent footage of robots, mainly because as long as I've been watching "Battlestar," I've been telling people that robots will eventually take over the world. Yes, the last bit was a tad preachy, but it wasn't telling us anything the entire series hasn't been saying: Be careful what you create for the sake of convenience, or power, or whatever. So whether you liked it or not, I still think the end was in line with what the creators have been trying to say.

And I totally cried as Adama was sitting on the hillside talking to Laura's grave. I love the old man.

Posted by: Sarah Carlson at March 23, 2009 11:25 PM

Viewed as a whole, "god" (or whatever it actually is) ultimately proved itself to be disinterested in any one individual of group and simply manipulated a handful of pawns as a means to get them to their new paradigm. "Resetting the human experiment" as it were.

As to the "power" question, considering the show depicted several thousand years of history, 2 races, 12 planets, 50 billion dead people and numerous grabs for political power in the face of parlous circumstances, the producers seemed to argue pretty heavily that power and responsibility aren't mutually compatible concepts (for that sort of epiphany, see Star Trek). Ironically, it is this same idea that made the whole "just fly the fleet into the sun and spread the herd out across the planet" solution pretty hard to accept (harder even than the role of god for mine).
It was a strange way to do it, but by that stage I figured they could resolve the rest however they wanted, the main mystery for me was solved.

Posted by: Dave Shepherd at March 24, 2009 3:06 AM

So does this mean Jimi Hendrix is God? ;)

Posted by: Rogue Cheddar at March 24, 2009 10:44 AM

Ok, I doubt many people will agree with me, but this is what i think happened: Starbuck was daniel and one of the final five's daughter so she could resurrect. I think the eye sent her back in time to earth and since she she had one of the final five's dna she resurrected on the resurrection ship they had built because it was still close enough to earth for her to do that. Then when you see her trying to figure out the notes before she jumps the galactica you see a flash of the eye. I think she jumped through the eye and because they were jumping it sent them back even further in time and the 'new' earth is the same as the old earth but they don't realise it. After the twelve colonies grow enough, and are technologically advanced they decide to leave earth to the natives and go and settle the twelve colonies. But hera's dna is already mixed witht he natives so they are all part cylon. That's why when they find the destroyed earth in the future they were all cylons. But really just part cylon. And that's why they keep saying it's all happened before and will all happen again

Posted by: joejoe at March 24, 2009 12:18 PM

Oh and another way you could enjoy the final episode without believing in angels: Baltar could have been a cylon too. The son of one of the final five. There's evidence for this since only cylons can project and Baltar was able to project. If the final five were able to rediscover resurrection than I'm sure baltar would have been capable figuring it out too. He could have discovered his origin and built a resurrection machine. Him and the six could have just resurrected over and over. The Baltar and six at the end might not have been the projections that were in their heads, but the actual Baltar and six.

Posted by: joejoe at March 24, 2009 12:39 PM

Technically, it's Bob Dylan.

Posted by: Kingfarmer at March 24, 2009 2:54 PM

I would have hated the finale a lot less if it hadn't ripped off the Golgafrincham B-Ark plot from the Hitch-Hikers Guide To The Galaxy.

Y'know: a bathtub on the bridge, a supplanted native species and a character heading into the frozen north in search of Slartibartfast's signature in a glaciar.

The only thing missing was the gin and tonic, probably because I'd drunk it by that point.

Posted by: Herogram at March 24, 2009 3:07 PM

There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza, there's a hole in the bucket. The long view returns patterns and repetitions. All has happened before and will happen again. End of line.

Posted by: Shimmy at March 25, 2009 9:02 AM

If I had Ron Moores address i would send my shredded dvd's back to him! I hated it!

Posted by: abbadon at March 31, 2009 8:02 AM

Religion in S1/early S2 was handled beautifully.

The problem in the finale was no that there were religious elements, but that that was about all there was, and it was heavy-handed, simplistic internally inconsistent shit. For example, take a good look at 'justice' (or the lack thereof) in the finale, of what is presumably some deep morality play. Baltar, Caprica Six (key enablers of the genocide), and Ellen (ultimate cause, even behind Cavil) get their happy endings???? WTF???

It's one thing for the writer to have characters with religious beliefs and motivations, and to even have events happen which leave us (thru some of the characters) wondering about the hand of God in what happened. True ,good, 'ambiguity' would lie in having some real but unlikely fortuitous event -- a near-'miracle' whose significance could be debated.

But here Moore jumped into the narrative with both feet, trampling everything in his path.

Nothing has aggravated me in arguments about BSG like apologists for Moore suggesting critics 'just don't get it', or are just bitter atheists, or are shallow scifi fans disgruntled because everything wasn't explained away with technobabble in the end, or that we're immature fanboys who just wanted more explosions.

Posted by: newscaper at April 4, 2009 5:50 PM

Re: justice again -- the 'good' human-allied Cylons earn extinction (but for the tiny sliver thru Hera)?gain, WTF for a morality play.

I'll add that Hera's importance is pretty much a tautology, almost boiling down to: Hera's important because she's important.

On the Cylon reproduction project, *denying* her to them had importance, but she had no positive importance for the humans themselves... unless she would come into play in a merger of the humans and the good Cylons. But *that* never happened beyond the most limited sense -- she in no way opened things up as the first of many mixed children. There were no more.

The bit about Mitochondrial Eve, no matter how interesting, is limited in two ways: 1) the Colonials didn't know any of that or feel they had any kind of mission to interbreed, so how could that motivate her 'importance' to them, to throw away so many scarce lives & resources attacking the Cylon Colony? It couldn't.
2) Ok, Hera's the most recent common female ancestor -- so what? What about that fact is actually significant? Nothing beyond something kinda cool.
What might have given it some is if Adama & co had told us that the native humans were very similar genetically but probably not quite enough to be interfertile. Then perhaps something unique about Hera herself being a mix was the conduit for interbreeding. But a) Moore did not suggest that in the slightest, and b) even if he'd written it that way, nobody in the story knew it when they stepped across that red lin eon the deck.

The Final Five was also an utter bust. They weren't in the fleet as part of some Plan, with a mission, but as victims of Cavil. Further, once they knew they were Cylons, nothing much ever came of it -- Tigh was still Tigh (though now having a crisis) and so on. Big whoop.
Once they got to Nuked!Earth they woke up a little, but it was just fragments of memories -- they didn't ever become who they 'really' were. Big whoop again. The one who came closest was Ellen in the explanation ep with Cavil -- but then she almost completely reverted to old Ellen in the embarrassing Desperate Housewives ep. Anders opened up a little with a bullet to the brain but then we never learned much more from him.

SO, as I said, the Five as Super Cylons was total BS -- but then in the Finale, out of the blue, they *are* Super Cylons with the Resurrection knowledge. WTF? If that was negotiable why not bring it up a bit sooner, like before a huge battle? Better yet, loss of Resurrection was the *only* thing that leveled the strategic playing field with the Cylons, and mortality was the only thing that might get individual Cylons to better emphasize with humans and get over their genocidal drive. It was a HUGE deal -- but , oh yeah, it was suddenly on the table becasue Hera was 'important'.

Christ, this was shitty writing.

Posted by: newscaper at April 4, 2009 6:12 PM

I was fine with the whole fleet signing up for a suicide mission to rescue Hera. She didn't have to be important. The fleet wasn't going to stand for having its children kidnapped and mutilated, even if it meant losing everyone to take her back.

Posted by: Lucas at April 5, 2009 3:31 PM

I feel that the final suicide mission was more about sending Galactica out with a bang (like Adama says to Tigh at the end of Islanded) rather than rescuing Hera. That was just an extra.

A final chance to hurt the Cylons before they can't any more.

Posted by: TyndallAddisen at April 16, 2009 10:27 AM

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