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Guides | May 1, 2008 | Comments (100)


As blockbuster season once again approaches (one day until Iron Man!), we’ve actually got more to look forward to this season than most summers. But then again, entering the summer movie season is like being a Pittsburg Pirates fan — it always great until the games get underway. So, while there is reason to be optimistic with The Dark Knight, Hancock, the fourth Indiana Jones movie, and another Pixar film (Wall-E) on the horizon, undoubtedly we’ll all be more disappointed than we are satisfied by what May through August offers up.

And, because the multiplexes during this time of year tend to crowd their screens with the same four or five movies, options tend to dwindle and desperation for quality entertainment often starts to set in by the Fourth of July; a nagging emptiness that craves intellectual stimulation will open up inside of you and beg for more than two lines of dialogue at a time. Blockbuster fatigue will set in. Popcorn and king-size bags of M&Ms will sit heavily in your gut, while movie theater soda will start to eat away at your enamel. You will yearn for substance, anything that eschews one-liners and brain-leak explosives. Something that doesn’t blow up in your face or scream at you.

So, as we kick off our third year in Pajiba’s Guide series, we bring you the anti-blockbuster feature: Pajiba’s Anti-Blockbuster Documentary Festival, ten of our favorite documentaries, intelligent films that you can call up on your Netflix queues when your mind is feeling a bit rotty. Ten movies that will entertain and enlighten, a series of flicks that will bring you back to reality without having to resort to summer reality television fare, which is the only thing worse than the prospect of watching Adam Sandler’s next magnum dopus, Don’t Mess with the Zohan.

Here they are and, as always, your own suggestions are welcome below the comment line:

crumb1.jpgCrumb: R. Crumb could be the malcontent misfit mascot for Pajiba. Terry Zwigoff essentially sells his soul to craft this biopic, capturing the lunatic world of this underground comic genius, and his clearly insane and disturbingly endearing family. Famous for his twisted, sexual grotesqueries, he’s pretty much the defining influence on the modern geek chic. Racist, misogynistic, perverse, or brutally hilarious and fascinating. Much like the man’s work, you will either love or loathe this; there is no middle ground. Crumb’s a misanthropic charmer, a creature just as bizarre as any slavering wrinkled sex fiend or robust sexual goddess he could scribble. — Brian Prisco

digdocumentary.jpgDig: Writer-director Ondi Timoner’s heady and exhaustive examination of the rise, fall, and implosion of musician Anton Newcombe succeeds as a music documentary because it’s not necessary to know anything about the indie/rock/pop scenes of the 1990s to enjoy the film. In fact, despite her devotion to her subjects’ art, Timoner’s greatest achievement is capturing the human drama of the people involved, in all their failed ambition and unwavering hope. Newcombe’s band, The Brian Jonestown Massacre, was scrounging around Los Angeles and trying to make it around the same time as The Dandy Warhols, led by Courtney Taylor-Taylor. The film takes a hard look at the relationship between the men, charting the Warhols’ rise to pop fame with hits like “Bohemian Like You” while Newcombe buckles under the pressure of record labels’ demands. Dig covers an amazing amount of ground, culling from seven years of footage shot at concerts, studios, and the predictably sketchy apartments of the various band members who breeze in and out of the BJM. It’s a raw and mostly unflattering look at the way the rival bands set out to accomplish their goals: Both Newcombe and Taylor-Taylor valued artistic integrity, but Newcombe couldn’t stay sober and Taylor-Taylor really wanted to be famous. But Timoner also documents how the men drove each other to create better music; it’s no accident that as their friendship dissolved, so did their respective bands’ shots at being big. The best sequence in the film is one in which Newcombe, already down the rabbit hole and happy to never come out, sits in his studio and jumps from one instrument to another, laying down a series of tracks that eventually swell to something grander than expected, even if there’s no one there to play with him. — Daniel Carlson

greygardens.jpgGrey Gardens: The story of Edith Beale and her daughter Edie, aunt and first cousin of Jackie O, is easily one of the most famous documentaries ever made. Many argue that the film’s nature is exploitative; although honestly that’s probably why I love Grey Gardens so much, being that my favorite genre of documentary are studies into the psyches of the eccentric and crazy. After having made tabloid headlines in the early 1970s due to unsanitary living conditions — which had the local health department ready to condemn their sprawling, 28-room East Hampton estate — filmmakers Albert and David Maysles came in to document the lives of the two marginally famous women. The resulting film is not for the squeamish. Neither in grasp of their full mental capacities, Edith and Edie wallow in downright filth, sharing the decrepit mansion with a menagerie of cats and raccoons which litter the place with fecal matter. The mother and daughter, 79 and 56 years of age respectively, seemingly spend their days bickering and reminiscing about their former lives as affluent socialites — before they became reclusive, societal outcasts. Perpetually overdressed and wearing a head scarf to hide her graying/thinning hair (note to Bret Michaels: you’re not fooling anyone either), “Little Edie” goes back and forth between obsessing over finding a man and mourning her missed opportunities at love, fueled by her mother’s barbs. Towards the end of the film she even becomes noticeably infatuated with one of the Maysles brothers filming her. A tragic, yet fascinating glimpse into human relations, Grey Gardens has gone on to inspire a Broadway musical, a soon to be released full-length motion picture and countless pop culture references. — Stacey Nosek

hoopdreamsSTILL.jpgHoop Dreams: The amazing thing about Hoop Dreams, a documentary following two young basketball players throughout their high school years, is that it’s not really a documentary about basketball. I mean, it is about basketball, in that it’s about William Gates’ and Arthur Agee’s shared dream of making it into the NBA. But it’s not really about basketball, if you dig. Rather, the film is a character study in how Gates and Agee each try to fulfill their dreams, starting off at essentially the same spot only to find their paths quickly diverged. A three-hour documentary can be a crawling nightmare, but here, you’ll be thankful for the extra time, giving you some breathing room to really take in all that you can from this five-year window into the boys’ lives. You’ll get a chance to really know the boys and their families which, in turn, means you can really feel the impact of a knee injury, of a missed foul shot, of a system that often just tries to use and spit boys up and, most heart-rending to me, of an explosive game of pickup between a father and son. Plus, without being heavy handed or overly manipulative, the filmmakers manage to position the film as being a sort of mini-study on some aspects of inner-city socioeconomics, mixing issues of race, education and family into the stir-fry. And while Hoop Dreams is 14 years old, it holds up remarkably well, with the only sign of its age being the late-80s/early-90s style. Sure, young ballers in Gates’ and Agee’s position today face a much more honed machine waiting to take them in, but their underlying stories and dreams are surely no different. - Seth Freilich

longnightsjourney.jpgLong Night’s Journey Into Day: “It is a wound that will not heal.” These are the words spoken by the mother of a young man who was assassinated by the South African Secret Police during the Apartheid era. Long Night’s Journey Into Day, directed by Deborah Hoffman and Frances Reed, is a documentary about one of the most difficult and important events in a nation’s history. In 1995, one year after South Africa’s first free elections, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) was set up as a means of gaining the truth about the thousands of murders, abductions, and instances of torture that took place throughout South Africa during Apartheid, in exchange for the perpetrators gaining amnesty for their crimes as part of a national healing process. While over 7,000 cases were brought to the TRC, this documentary takes a close look at four of them and the effects on the families of the victims and perpetrators. Featuring mainly interviews and testimonials from the affected families, and actual footage from the TRC hearings, it’s a heart-wrenching, tragic series of tales that examines just how viciously people can treat each other, just how far a desperate, dying tyranny will go, and the great and sometimes tragic lengths the oppressed will go to in order to break free of those chains. The stories are all tragic and the footage is often brutal — shots of the bodies of seven black men (known as The Guguletu Seven) ambushed and killed by secret police are interspersed with their mothers collapsing in despair during the hearings, or the desolate parents of a white American student killed by a black mob in a township, finding it in their hearts to somehow forgive her killers. The TRC was often hard for people to understand (despite having the support of Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu, who described it as “restorative, rather than retributive justice”), but perhaps its greatest achievement was to show people’s capability for forgiveness and change. — TK

500my_best_fiend.jpgMy Best Fiend: Many consider Werner Herzog to be the greatest documentary filmmaker working today. Not only does he routinely bring content and message, but his technical mastery leaves my other beloved doc directors (McElwee, Broomfield and Morris) in the dust, and his spellbinding voice-overs are narcotic. Herzog’s best-known doc in the US, Grizzly Man, is also his weakest; he’s made much taller giants like Little Dieter Needs to Fly, The White Diamond and Lessons of Darkness. But I chose My Best Fiend because of what it achieves as a story; it’s a biography and an autobiography, a love-letter to Klaus Kinski and an invective against him, a paean to extreme filmmaking, and a study in the hubris of two men who brought out the best in each other creatively. My Best Fiend doesn’t boast the breathtaking aerial camerawork of Lessons or Diamond; the breathtaking is in the archive footage of Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo, which Herzog splices in between languorous recollections of his relationship with Kinski, a raving lunatic who was also one of the finest actors this planet’s ever seen—when his mania could be contained and redirected into the shot. Herzog often works with the unstable or disenfranchised (see Stroszek, Grizzly or even Dieter), and while some may say his madman-love is exploitive, it also makes sense given Herzog’s own megalomania and his longstanding madness/genius motif. My Best Fiend mythologizes Kinski and reminds us that neither he nor Herzog can be taken at face value; Herzog is a story-weaver and places the grain of salt frankly in your palm as he takes you through the history of his and Kinski’s relationship. Kinski’s Jesus Tour is in there, as well as anecdotes about him pulverizing bathroom porcelain during 48-hour rants—but it’s the final image of an aging Kinski sporting with a butterfly for Herzog’s camera that will stick in your minds. — Ranylt Richildis

sherman%27smarch.jpgSherman’s March: Filmmaker Ross McElwee, who narrates his deeply personal documentaries with a nasal drawl, was planning to make a film about “the lingering effects of Sherman’s March on the South.” Just before starting the project, he learned that his girlfriend was leaving him for an ex. Reeling from the news, he returned to his native North Carolina and ended up going on a march of his own — mostly through a wide variety of southern women, from dingbats to linguists. Upon its release in 1986, Sherman’s March was widely praised, but leave it to the sharp-eyed critics at People Magazine to nail it: “If Woody Allen made Gone With the Wind, it might resemble Sherman’s March.” Allen is short and agitated, while McElwee is lanky and laconic, but they share much in the form of romantic hang-ups, dispirited perspectives, and dark humor as a coping mechanism.

The biggest difference is McElwee’s fascination with other people. He cuts his solipsism with genuine interest in, and affection for, those around him. The women he meets transfix him and his camera, which he carries with him in all situations. As he says early in the film, while spending time with an aspiring actress, “I keep thinking that perhaps I should return to my original plan to make a film about Sherman’s march, but I can’t seem to stop filming Pat.” McElwee’s a brilliant observer of human nature, and his emphasis on women doesn’t keep his eye from also picking up subtle scenes about family, southern culture, and race relations.

It’s more than halfway through the movie when we meet one of the most memorable characters, real or imagined, in film history — Charleen. An ex-teacher of McElwee’s, her first words to him on-screen are, “I am bored with your singleness.” She has plans to set him up. “The only way to get you coupled,” she says, “and it to be a permanent thing, is to find you a woman who thinks that you’re God. It’s gonna take a very special kind of woman to think that you’re God, too.” But quoting her is ridiculous. She is sui generis, and must be seen to be believed. Like almost everyone featured in this two-and-a-half-hour gem, she’s hilariously, heartbreakingly human, and you won’t want your time with her to end. — John Williams

spellboundsa.jpgSpellbound: I’ve always believed that — with the exception of soccer, of course — you can love almost any competitive sport if you get to know the participants well enough. Jeffrey Blitz pushes that theory to the limit in Spellbound, a documentary about what would seem, on its face, to be the dullest competition this side of synchronized swimming. Blitz explores the lives of eight spelling bee participants — ages 11 - 14 — getting to know their family and fleshing out their individual personalities before taking us to the 1999 Scripps National Spelling Bee competition. We not only get to know their lives in intimate detail, but we begin to understand what’s at stake for these kids, all of whom are dorky overachievers and social outcasts (one kid even has apparent Aspergers). It’s not just a vocabulary competition, it’s the culmination of a year (or more) of obsession, of constant study (up to 4,000 to 5,000 words a day) and, eventually, the highest form of validation some of these kids have ever experienced or — in some instances — may ever again. If you’re in the right mood, it’s easy to watch Spellbound ironically, as a satire of Middle America, but even the most cynical among you will feel invested in the outcome. You will root for your favorite; and when you experience the heartbreak of their loss and die a little inside, you may even agree that a competition this intense is a mild form of child abuse. Still, it’s a surprisingly intense and involving documentary, but what’s most remarkable about Spellbound is the overwhelming sense of pride you feel for these kids — maybe more than any movie I’ve ever seen, you’ll want to give Spellbound a hug when it’s over. — Dustin Rowles

thin_blue_line.jpgThe Thin Blue Line: The films of Errol Morris are like no other documentaries being produced today. Slow, obtuse, profound, and lacking a real sense of narrative cogency, they somehow transcend their own subject matter. Whether as seemingly insignificant as pet cemeteries (Gates of Heaven) or as relevant as global politicking (The Fog of War), Morris presents us with as little as possible - still images, plain sequences of dialogue - and calmly invokes the unimaginable. The Thin Blue Line, a film which focuses on the murder of a Dallas police officer in 1976, purports to be about the miscarriage of justice, but somehow becomes a damning statement on the human condition. Constructed of interviews with officers, lawyers, and witnesses, the film recounts a pointless violent act which implicitly demands justice. But beyond a moral axe to grand, Morris finds his subject no more important than the metaphor he finds in it (which is to say, very). Through the dissembling of the officers and prosecutor intent on laying blame, the poppycock of moralizing witnesses, and the even-keeled sociopathy of the man who probably committed the crime, Morris shows us how muddled the search for truth can be, how our willful creation of false fictions blur the answers we find in black and white. — Phillip Stephens

war_room.jpgThe War Room: Considering the title of DA Pennebaker and Chris Hegedus’ documentary on Bill Clinton’s 1992 run for President was taken from the name Hillary Clinton gave the campaign’s message shop, it’s an interesting time to take another look at The War Room. While we do get a bit of quality time with Bubba, charming as ever as he lies all stone-faced to reporters about big bar haired Gennifer Flowers (who the fuck spells Gennifer with a G anyway?), the film is not about him. It focuses on his message masters, James Carville and George Stephanopoulos. Had I written this blurb when the film came out, I would have focused on the youth and passion on display. The palpable feeling that these people believed deeply in what they were fighting for, that Bill Clinton had the potential to do immense good for Americans. Watching salty ol’ Carville melt into a quivering puddle of tears as he tries to express gratitude to his staff on election eve is truly moving. But in current context, I’m stung by the irony of it all. Two quotes:

First from Mary Matalin (Carville’s wife and Bush I’s chief strategist), “[Clinton]’s a performer. That’s not our shtick. We are a leader, we are mature, we have experience.”

And from Carville himself, “Let me tell you what’s at stake in this election. Every time that somebody comes along that’s got some ideas, a Democrat comes along, the Republicans come up here and they ambush him… And here comes Clinton. He comes to New Hampshire, people here are hurtin’. They want hope. They want somebody with vision. He gives it to them. So what do Republicans do? They get together … and they knock him off. If they succeed this time, it’s going to be every time…. If we win this, then we have knocked this shit back forever.”

Everything has happened before, everything will happen again. Cajun-style. — Beckyloo Who


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Comments

Great list...I adore Spellbound and The War Room, I found myself holding my breath as those kids spelled words I could barely comprehend.

My favorite documentary is Wordplay, since I'm a sucker for all things crossworld puzzles and Jon Stewart. I never would have thought that watching Bill Clinton do the Times crossword would be so fascinating.

I also love Microcosmos, a gorgeous (French?) documentary set to classical music using tiny cameras to capture the insect world.

My friend at work is a Herzog enthusiast, he's been telling me to rent Little Dieter Needs to Fly for years. I've only seen Grizzly Man, so I'll have to add this to my queue.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 12:47 PM

Grey Gardens is so amazing. I never would've found it either without my love, the criterion collection. And I guess the brains over here at Pajiba.

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at May 1, 2008 12:47 PM

One of my favorite documentaries is The Bridge. It is a grim yet somehow almost positive look into the people who jump from the Golden Gate Bridge. As you may or may not know, the Golden Gate is one of the most popular sites for suicidal people to end it all. The director set up a camera on the Golden Gate for one month that recorded all day, every day. He interviews the people that were left behind and interweaves it with footage of the person that jumped on the bridge, waiting, watching, timing it. It is a movie that gave me chills and has stuck with me more than any movie that I can recall. It is not a movie I recommend to everyone, but I can say that I think that it will change anyone who sees it.

Posted by: Melody at May 1, 2008 12:47 PM

I don't have anything of substance to comment, I'm just glad I'm so far up here.

Posted by: Kash at May 1, 2008 12:50 PM

Little known fact is that Louis Malle was also an excellent documentary filmmaker, including a 7 hour journey called "Phantom India" and even a few on U.S. life.

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at May 1, 2008 12:50 PM

Wow. What a fantastic list. I've not seen a one of these, and the mini-reviews made me pretty much want to see all of them. Thank you.

Posted by: Cindy at May 1, 2008 12:53 PM

great list, ashamed to say i haven't seen a one other than Hoop Dreams. Brother's Keeper and Darwin's Nightmare also deserve honorable mentions, although Darwin's Nightmare may be one of the most depressing films ever made.

Posted by: summerteeth at May 1, 2008 12:53 PM

I've read Carville and Matalin's jointly written book about the '92 election, All's Fair: Love, War, and Running for President and enjoyed it a great deal. I'll definitely put The War Room on my Netflix list. Probably some of the others too, it's gonna be a long summer.

Carville and Matalin also came to speak to my freshman class at Miami, and were incredibly entertaining. I think they're good people, even if I can't look directly at James Carville without twitching.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at May 1, 2008 12:59 PM

I will second the nod to Wordplay and offer one up for King of Kong. There are some people in this universe that just have to be seen to be believed.

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2008 1:05 PM

Has anyone else seen the documentary currently airing on HBO The Greatest Silence: Rape in the Congo? I watched it on Monday and couldn't sleep that night; I had read about the atrocities against Congolese women before but that didn't prepare me for this documentary. I spent the majority of it watching in horror with my hand covering my mouth.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 1:13 PM

it's no accident that as their friendship dissolved, so did their respective bands' shots at being big.

I would say that the Dandy Warhols did make it big. At least more than one good album with multiple songs on the radio -- that's pretty big.

Love this list. Can't wait to add nearly all of them to the Netflix queue.

Also, even though it's mostly just quiet and gentle and beautiful, I did like Sketches of Frank Gehry. It's not an award-winner, but it's a lovely little portrait of art, life and friendship.

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2008 1:14 PM

Melody - I'm with ya on The Bridge, found myself thinking about it for weeks afterwards and now months later can still remember it vividly.

I also loved Murderball, and strongly believe that those guys would seriously annihilate me at any sport.

Posted by: Lisa S at May 1, 2008 1:23 PM

I will second King of Kong but more enthusiastically endorse The Wild Parrots Of Telegraph Hill, one of the most offbeat life affirming films I have had the pleasure to see. Part nature documentary, part love story, anytime I make a new friend, I have to show them this film.

Posted by: Brad at May 1, 2008 1:38 PM

I can't believe Etre et Avoir didn't make it onto the list...surely it's one of the most heartfelt, moving documentaries ever made.

DR, must you have NO redeeming qualities? Now you're talking shit about "proper" football (sorry, I just can't call it soccer)? When will Americans get with the program!?

Posted by: boogs at May 1, 2008 1:40 PM

I had been looking for that grey gardens doc but couldn't put my finger on the title until now. Thanks for that.

I have to go with Melody and Lisa S. on the bridge doc. It was one of those rare films for me that has a premise that totally turned me off but somehow I couldn't turn the channel for once it had me nothing else on could have touched me anywhere near as deep and I knew it. I think voyerism at the expense of someones self respect is disgusting, but this was not that. I almost felt like this film was giving the jumpers the much needed attention they jumped for, and doing that, without disrespecting the departed, I feel was no small feat.

Posted by: Phat girl at May 1, 2008 1:40 PM

I really love Mad Hot Ballroom. It just puts a big smile on my face.

Posted by: Rollerson at May 1, 2008 1:43 PM

American Movie--the only documentary that I could sit through multiple times. It's hilarious and totally frightening, because I have family from the Milwaukee area, and the guy in the movie is a dead ringer for some of them. Except with much more ambition.

Posted by: frumpiefox at May 1, 2008 1:43 PM

Tarnation! Tarnation! Tarnation! It's the best documentary I've ever seen - I don't care that it's completely personal and flashy. It's also breathtaking and heart-wrenching.

Thanks for the Netflix additions and sorry I haven't commented in a while!

Posted by: vinniedelpino at May 1, 2008 1:44 PM

Pittsburg(H)

Posted by: Jon at May 1, 2008 1:45 PM

I know what you mean Julie. After my film class' professor gushed over Herzog's work I've been wondering where to start. (A class I aced, and I'd like to thank Pajiba for loading me up with movie knowledge.) I can't wait to sink my teeth into a couple of these. And I love the 30 Rock reference, Becky-Loo. Cajun Style!

Posted by: Tyranthesaurus Rex at May 1, 2008 1:52 PM

So many good ones. I loved "One Day in September" (though I think Ebert panned it), "The Fog of War" and "Capturing the Friedmans", as well. I'm sure I'll think of a bunch of others.

Posted by: samantha t at May 1, 2008 1:54 PM

There's a big ol' glaring misplaced modifier in the Grey Gardens review. That said, the pic is going on my Netflix queue this very minute.

Posted by: AW at May 1, 2008 2:02 PM

Boogs:
Dustin just throws those barbs in because he likes to upset those of us who understand the beautiful game. Ignore him. He'll go away to watch some heavily-clad steroidal men throwing a ball around and calling it "football". LOOK DUSTIN: period outside of the quotations. Nya, nya nya.

Brilliant list of docs. I highly recommend anything on this list except for Grey Gardens which I haven't seen.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 2:07 PM

Boogs -

Kudos for mentioning Etre et Avoir - my favourite by far. I never wanted a child until I saw that documentary!

Another one which I was really affected by is Deliver Us From Evil.

Posted by: Katherine at May 1, 2008 2:08 PM

Boogs -

Kudos for mentioning Etre et Avoir - my favourite by far. I never wanted a kid until I saw that documentary!

Another one which I was really affected by is "Deliver Us From Evil". Some of the stuff that comes out in it is pretty shocking.

Posted by: Katherine at May 1, 2008 2:08 PM

Katherine - I saw "Deliver us from Evil." Absolutely chilling.

Posted by: samantha t at May 1, 2008 2:15 PM

First time poster...I have to recommend 7 UP. It is a British documentary series about class, growing up, change and life in general. The participants first appear on film when they are seven years old and again every 7 years. 49 UP was recently released. Some of the adults are completely unchanged from their 7 yo selves, which is surprising, but the transistions the others go through are unbelievable and will make you feel the full range of human emotions and experience.

Posted by: catch42 at May 1, 2008 2:15 PM

God, I hate Helen Hunt.

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at May 1, 2008 2:19 PM

A lot of my friends, and other people, saw "Spellbound" when it came out and loved it, and that became "The movie 'Spellbound'". I took this as vicious disrespect towards Peck and Bergman and avoided it.

I told you I'm grudgeful.

For another Morris, I really, really like "A Brief History Of Time".

I'm just glad "Burden of Dreams" wasn't here. That's not anti-blockbuster, it's anti-sanity. "Crumb" is definitely fantastic, but it was his brother that lingered with me. A great big "never let that happen to me" as I watched it in college, fearful of the future, the sort of big brother, as it were, to Tom Hulce's loser in "Parenthood". I can't look at "Grey Gardens" alone, but that can depend on whether you can ride such black comedy on your own or not. I can't. It IS amazing. Horribly, horribly, dispiritingly amazing.

Christ, what are you people trying to do to me? It's bad enough that it's only Thursday!

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 2:22 PM

Anyone who liked Hoop Dreams should read The Last Shot by Darcy Frey. Also about basketball... but not. Frey follows 3 high school seniors and one younger boy on their respective quests to become basketball stars.

Posted by: Pea at May 1, 2008 2:31 PM

Catch42:

7Up is a great documentary series. I have an abiding hate for the guy who started off as such a nice little boy and then went to a posh public school and grew up to be a horrible Tory with the most ridiculous class prejudices. I think he became a barrister. I keep watching the updates hoping to find that he died horribly.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 2:37 PM

Manufactured Landscapes! It's a look at the truly monumental scale of industry that props up the conusmer products we only see in stores. This seems really boring when you look at the premise, but trust me - watch the documentary and you will be blown away. The insane scale of factories in China, shipyards in India, and so on is something that you have NEVER seen - imagine a Planet Earth-style documentary that looks at the Earth we create with industry.

Posted by: Joe at May 1, 2008 2:37 PM

i agree on a lot of these (hoop dreams, crumb) but good god how i loathed sherman's march. as a southern female, i found it obnoxious and stultifying, and painting a (as usual) myopic picture of the south, it's culture, and especially it's women.

Posted by: breee at May 1, 2008 2:43 PM

Gimme Shelter, people! Every time someone my age talks about the "revolutionary 60s" and how everyone was standing up for peace and love etc. and how things were starting to CHANGE, I tell them to watch that movie. If ever there was something to burst that shallow, revisionist view of that decade, it's Gimme Shelter. Also, there's some amazing concert footage in there of the Stones playing Madison Square Garden that just makes the Altamont footage that much more powerful.

Plus, how often do you get to see one of the members of Jefferson Airplane get attacked by a Hell's Angel?

Posted by: fringecamp at May 1, 2008 2:44 PM

I love documentaries and am embarrassed by how few of these I've seen. Looks like I have some catching up to do. Great list.

Posted by: Robert at May 1, 2008 2:50 PM

Stevie was pretty enjoyable too. Disturbing, but enjoyable. I watched that the other night for the first time.

Posted by: PissBoy at May 1, 2008 2:59 PM

Samantha, Capturing the Friedmans was crazy...I watched that with my mom and we were both highly disturbed.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 3:08 PM

Samantha T beat me by listing both "The Fog of War" and "Capturing the Friedmans," two of my favorite docs that I've watched numerous times. Those two alone are so compelling they made me take more chances on docs, and I'm rarely disappointed.

See also
"Who Killed the Electric Car?"
"The Beatles' First U.S. Visit"
"No End In Sight" (infuriates me)
"WalMart: The High Cost of Low Prices" (REALLY infuriates me)
"The Ghost of Oswald"
"The Devil and Daniel Johnson"
& too many more to remember here

Posted by: TMax at May 1, 2008 3:09 PM

I cannot express how much i love Fog of War. Brilliant set-up, brilliant subject, done in an amazingly engaging style. and it could not be more relevant to today's lessons of war.

Posted by: coleman at May 1, 2008 3:12 PM

May I enter into consideration for the worst documentary ever James Cameron's gem Aliens of the Deep? Watch in amazement as he never once introduces himself, trusting that his fame will make him recognizable to everyone! Gasp as he shows you that he is way better than everyone at everything! Marvel at the "experts" he brings on his undersea adventure, like the 25 year old "astrobiologist." (And tell me that's not currently the easiest job in the solar system. "Hey Mike, have they found any life forms up there for you to study?" "Not yet, but I've got my fingers crossed!")

Yes, truly amazing.

Posted by: elizabeth at May 1, 2008 3:24 PM

TMax, my younger brother is obsessed with The Devil and Daniel Johnston. OBSESSED. To the point where he bought every album, a t-shirt with one of his doodles, he has a BOOK about him (and he doesn't read much), and he just saw him at the Troc or the TLA...some local Philly venue. He's been pushing that doc on me since Christmas.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 3:26 PM

Good list. I loved all the ones I've seen (Hoop Dreams, Spellbound, War Room, Sherman's March)so I'll have to Netflix the others, except Crumb.

Hoop Dreams really got under my skin when it came out. I still get upset over it. I ached for those kids and the pressure they had on them. The white coaches who set them up to fail academically...
Fortunately, maybe some good came of it.. a year or two later there was a national poll that showed a disturbing amount of inner city kids thought they'd be the next Michael Jordan. Which led to the March Madness NCAA commercials "Going pro in something other than basketball".

I don't think I could see Fog of War or No End in Sight without wanting to hunt down and choke Rumsfeld.

What about Murderball?

Posted by: Amanda47 at May 1, 2008 3:41 PM

second the nods for Murderball, King of Kong (although they played pretty loose with the facts in that one) and Darwin's Nightmare

i'll add a nod for Mister Death, another one from Morris, which contained the single best shot from ANY film i saw that year and is also a fascination human study and a cautionary tale of hubris and the old adage "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".

Posted by: shoulders of orion at May 1, 2008 3:52 PM

Long time lurker, but I have a few to toss into the fold:

Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills
Paradise Lost 2: Revelations
Harlan County, U.S.A

Watch and despair!

Posted by: vaskark at May 1, 2008 4:03 PM

Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills

Paradise Lost is a very good source of information about the WM3. I remember it being well done. It is from HBO right? It may be talked about more since the possibility of a new trial is being discussed.

Posted by: Melody at May 1, 2008 4:12 PM

Wow, "Dig"? Really? One of the few movies I've never finished out of frustration. A movie trying to be pretentious (how does one fail at pretentiousness, you ask?) and fails because it's too whiney. It's hard to identify with ANY of what the band is going through and I can't count how many times I wanted to backhand all of the characters in the movie.

Posted by: Kim at May 1, 2008 4:24 PM

Wow, I was really shocked to see The Thin Blue Line on this list. I thought I was only one of a small handful who had ever seen it. My father was one of the police officers interviewed in the film.

Posted by: LZ at May 1, 2008 4:31 PM

if you can get BBC stuff watch storyville, some of those are really good

Posted by: droopy at May 1, 2008 4:44 PM

Julie and TMax - as we say in my current area of practice (family law) when faced with an unbelievable set of facts: "Only in reality."

Posted by: samantha t at May 1, 2008 4:47 PM

I am a documentary dork. I love them. I am a big fan of many of the flicks already listed ("Crumb", "Hoop Dreams", "Devil and Daniel Johnson", "Murderball", "American Movie") but there's a couple I can't believe haven't been mentioned yet.


"New York Doll", about Arthur "Killer" Kane of the NY Dolls was unbelievable. I also loved "Sick: The Life & Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist" and the recent "Who the $@#& is Jackson Pollack?" about a lady trucker who bought a painting at a thrift store that might be a Jackson Pollack. Yes, I am a goober.

Posted by: SugarKane at May 1, 2008 4:57 PM

Anything by Herzog beats pretty much anything else (documentary or otherwise). I didn't think Grizzly Man was weak at all - I found it fascinating, and there's lots of WH voice-over on it. Thanks for the other suggestions, too . . .

Posted by: Elfrieda at May 1, 2008 4:59 PM

GrizzlyMan was good. Murderball was great. I really loved Air Guitar Nation, it wasn't anything deep, but just watching the craziness of what is actually a really big "sport" in other countries really tickled my fancy.

Also, I would encourage everyone to see Paris is Burning. It's an awesome film and will really make you think about gender, sexual orientation, and race from a variety of new angles.

Posted by: David at May 1, 2008 5:00 PM

Although Kim makes some good points, I was still fascinated by the narcissism run amok in "Dig," and I've seen that three times. Different strokes, I guess.

Julie, I think watching "The Devil and Daniel Johnston" will give you a unique insight into your younger brother's 'obsession'- there's a scene when Daniel's father is recounting the time his son nearly killed them both while flying in a small plane that will break your heart. It shows just how horrifying mental illness can be.

Samantha T, "Capturing the Friedmans" has to be one of the most bizarre dysfunctional family portrayals there is, all the more amazing to think that the most intriguing footage was shot by one of the sons, while the drama was actually going on. It's also one of the few DVDs where all of the extras are just as fascinating, and disturbing, as the actual film.

And Coleman, like you, my love of "Fog of War" knows no bounds. I've never seen another doc that exposes the true insanity of 60's and 70's war politics as vividly as this one does. Robert MacNamara was detested by millions back in those days, but his insights (especially in relating JUST HOW CLOSE our country came to complete nuclear annihilation- scarier than any horror film) are enlightening, honest, and help to reveal just how maddening it must have been to be in his position as advisor to President Johnson; you can see the regret in his eyes over events he had no control over, and hear his real dispair in describing those events.

I personally think we're smack in the middle of the 'golden age' of quality documentaries, and thank God for Netflix or I wouldn't have seen 90 percent of them in the first place.

Posted by: TMax at May 1, 2008 5:19 PM

I also love the music from "The Fog of War." I also really, really respect MacNamara for subjecting himself to that process (despite his, ahem, questionable decisions in the best). Our current leaders will undoubtedly shy from that kind of scrutiny until the grave.

Posted by: samantha t at May 1, 2008 5:26 PM

Hoop Dreams was the best movie of the 1990's. Pulp Fiction can suck my huge throbbing engorged cock and so can everyone who like it.

Posted by: Ben at May 1, 2008 5:29 PM

Second or third or whatever it is now for "Tarnation" and "Capturing the Friedmans." Not the feel-good movies of the year (in the case of the latter, anyway), but still very good. "Fog of War" rocks. I liked "Fast, Cheap and Out of Control" too. I don't know if "Roger and Me" is considered a documentary, but if so, I'd rate it as one of the best. For cinematography, hard to beat "March of the Penguins."

Posted by: Slash at May 1, 2008 5:41 PM

Bus 174 is this amazing documentary about a hostage situation in Rio in 2000. It intersperses news footage of the standoff with information about the gunman, the streets and prisons of Rio, and the media response. They had this guy pinned down in this bus for hours and didn't storm the bus even after he had apparently shot one of the hostages. It is a startling portrait of poverty and police brutality and more suspenseful than the vast majority of Hollywood blockbusters. Not to be hyperbolic, but it is one of the best movies that I have ever seen.

Posted by: Jennifer at May 1, 2008 6:15 PM

Thanks for including Grey Gardens, might be my favorite documentary ever.

I also recommend Capturing the Friedmans, even if it is deeply disturbing. I saw it in the theater, not really knowing much about it, and it got stuck in my head like few movies do.

I enjoyed Fog of War, but I also felt like I probably should have recently read a book on the history of Vietnam before seeing it. Felt like I was missing a lot. Granted, if you lived through it or were up on more of the history, it probably resonates more.

I also can't wait for Frank and Cindy to get wider release. If you watched the first season of This American Life on Showtime, one of the episodes was about GJ Echternkamp's dysfunctional parents, and it's a full length doc now. I guess it's been shown at some festivals and stuff, but from what I saw on that episode, looks like it's right up my alley. (Google frank and cindy, it's got a website with clips.)

Posted by: zenhound at May 1, 2008 6:16 PM

Dig annoyed me
Tarnation, on the other hand, was fecking brilliant.
Fog of War is sensational.

Has anyone seen The Agronomist?

One of the most though provoking documentaries I have ever seen is Capturing the Friedmans. I still dont know how I feel about that family.

If you have not seen Fire Eyes, a documentary about female genital mutilation (circumcision). It will make you cringe.

Posted by: frogirl1978 at May 1, 2008 6:16 PM

Hearts and Minds anyone? It's absolutely brilliant.

Posted by: Chrissy at May 1, 2008 6:25 PM

I tried to watch Lake of Fire (a doc about abortion rights) and I couldn't make it past the first twenty minutes. Kudos to anyone that makes it through the whole film.

Posted by: shiningstar at May 1, 2008 6:34 PM

I am trying to break your heart -- about the band wilco creating/releasing their album yankee hotel foxtrot

jupiter's wife -- a homeless woman living in central park

party monster (not the one w/macauley culkin) -- effed up glam kids


southern comfort -- transgendered folk dealing with life


I do love the docs :)

Posted by: melia at May 1, 2008 7:10 PM

i can't believe i haven't seen grey gardens. i guess that's going to the top of my netflix list.

i caught jonestown: the life and death of peoples temple one of the few times it aired on PBS. this happened when i was little, and the only thing i remembered about it was cyanide kool aid. it is scary to watch jim jones in action, and to see how influential he was. it's heartbreaking to see the hope on those people's faces and to know the horrible way they're going to die--especially all those kids.

Posted by: kelley at May 1, 2008 7:16 PM

Yay! New York Doll! Yes!!!Fantastic!

There are so many...I kinda liked "The Smartest Guys in the Room", which was about the Enron scandal. Good for when you don't hate the world as much as you normally do. Watching this brings is all back right quick.

Great list. Hoop Dreams is outstanding.

Posted by: jay2 at May 1, 2008 8:07 PM

dude. pittsburgH.

Posted by: srsly at May 1, 2008 8:50 PM

Damn!

I'm SO delighted this thread is continuing up through now. At most I wanted just to put in a few more opinions, but the commenters between my last post and now have, well- les' just say you've gotten me tingly & kinda excited from the different selections I've just read, so I wanted to focus on that, because they were so great:

Jennifer, 'Bus 174' IS amazing, almost surreal, (and I'm crushing on you right now for having remembered and mentioned it in such an eloquent manner);

SLASH, you're dead on about both 'Roger and Me' and 'March of the Penguins', two other obvious ones that weren't in my frontal cortex when recalling all these docs. Without having even to mention the pure pleasure of just watching 'March'- the story, the editing - brilliant.

Kelly, the Jonestown doc on PBS was pretty good and worth a mention;

if frogirl1978 liked both 'War' and the 'Friedmans' then I guess I'm gonna have to Netflix the 'Agronomist' movie-- but I'll skip the female mutilation one.

Hell, took me 20 mins to write this so please forgive me if I'm way behind or have mentioned the obvious already... gotta keep sharp on this grammar/spelling thing - wish the Pajiban staff would, too (to whoever, you're absolutely contradictory when it comes to commenting on proper grammer or sentence structure, when there are many glaring errors in your own translation from thought to printed online - at least that's how the final typist makes it look- but I love ya anyways)

Off topic, pretty inebriated & gotta go to bed. Yakking online about documentaries is the best fun I've had this week, and it was nice chiming in for awhile.

Love the excellent comments, y'all!

Posted by: TMax at May 1, 2008 9:14 PM

SugarKane those sound like my cup of tea - thank you.

Posted by: Cindy at May 1, 2008 9:19 PM

We saw "Capturing the Friedmans" in the cinema and as we were leaving, we heard the woman who was sitting in front of us telling her friends that she lived next door to the Friedmans growing up and remembered all of that going on. We had been so captivated by the film that we actually followed her and her friends to a restaurant and bribed the Maitre D' to seat us next to them so we could eavesdrop on the story some more.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 10:30 PM

Damn, almost forgot!

"In The Shadow Of The Moon"

Vermillion said on the roundup page regarding Doctor Who:
Part of the reason I love Tennant as the Doctor is because he shows real, palatable enthusiasm, especially when he talks about how much he loves humanity. When he says it, it actually gives me a bit of species pride before the news networks crush it again.

This is the stuff that makes The Doctor admire us, and you'll feel proud too.

Then go listen to "Alan Bean" by Hefner and read "DC: The New Frontier" by Darwyn Cooke and feel inSPIRED.

(after all, we're in the painful birth of the future because we have to be, but it can still be exciting like when we just wanted to be amazing)

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 11:19 PM

Agree with all on Crumb, Hoop Dreams, Grizzly Man, King of Kong. You should all see Etre Et Avoir, though,

May I also say how refreshing it is to see a comment thread on this site that actually sticks to the subject at hand and doesn't devolve into some sort of painfully unfunny, unwitty back and forth about the sexual proclivities/desires of some of the regular commenters - guys and gals, it was perhaps mildly amusing the first time, but doing it after almost EVERY post?

Sorry if I come off as bit self-righteous. I come here for the quality of the writing and for the (occasionally) witty/interesting remarks. It just gets tiresome to see the same childish "banter" repeated ad nauseum.

Posted by: Boogs at May 1, 2008 11:23 PM

A big second for "American Movie." And "Wordplay" has one of the most heartrending scenes ever.

Haven't seen anyone mention "When We Were Kings." If all you know of George Foreman is a cuddly guy selling grills -- "A-li, boom-a-yea!"

Fringecamp, Can't mention the '60s without also mentioning "Woodstock."

Posted by: bucdaddy at May 1, 2008 11:26 PM

I've got one more that almost nobody has ever seen but that really got to me: Startup.com, another Pennebaker & Hegedus movie about the rise and fall of a dot-com started by two friends with the purpose of giving small-town governments a web portal in the 1990s. It takes place against the backdrop of an internet bubble that breeds astonishing optimism in the protagonists while we watch with the foreknowledge that it's doomed. From the moment it begins, we know it will end badly, and the gripping part is wondering just how. That turns out to be the most gripping part: we watch the almost total disintegration of a close friendship over the design, direction, and ultimately the profitability of the site.

Posted by: schlimmbesserung at May 2, 2008 12:24 AM

I've really come to love documentaries over the last year or so I enjoyed this list.

I've filled up my Netflix cue for a good couple weeks now.

As for some that I enjoyed that other's might like here's a short list.

Speedo: POV - about a year in the life of a demolition driver. You think it would be stupid, but it was one of the most charming character studies I've ever seen.

Burden of dreams - Anyone who likes Herzog would like this one. It's about his struggle to film Fitzcarraldo

Con Man - About a 32 year old man who conned his way into Princeton by pretending to be a high school track star

And finally The Corporation - It's not very balanced, but I found it very enjoyable.

Posted by: Ben at May 2, 2008 1:03 AM

I respectfully submit a film I completely forgot until reminded by your excellent recommendations. (However, Crumb needed to be represented y'all, and Murderball was my number two seed.) Lost in La Mancha: Terry Gilliam's nightmare attempt to film his vision of Don Quixote with Johnny Depp. It's a truly horrifiying portrayal of the madness of genius filmmakers, right up there with Burden of Dreams (Word, Ben. Word) and Hearts of Darkness. Seriously, a film that really resonated with me during my film school days.

Posted by: insertclevernamehere at May 2, 2008 1:23 AM

Some excellent recommendations here - my rental queue has now doubled in length.

I'd forgotten Lost in La Mancha, good call insertclevernamehere. I was heartbroken watching Gilliam's film unravel around him.

One that's slightly less of a documentary and more of a dramatic recreation interspersed with talking heads (and one of the best movies I've ever watched) was Touching The Void, the story of two climbers who get into trouble (to put it mildly) whilst climbing Siula Grande in the Peruvian Andes. Left me breathless, and full of admiration for these guys' determination. And I still can't hear Boney M's Brown Girl in the Ring without flashbacks.

Posted by: Lisa S at May 2, 2008 3:25 AM

Melody and Lisa S about "the bridge",
sorry but showing people actually killing themselves is very much exploitive. I hated the movie, anything good that could across was already jeopardized by that camera on the bridge. If want to see a great documentary about suicide try to find "For one more hour with you" by Alina Marazzi.

Posted by: rio at May 2, 2008 4:58 AM

I second "Harlan County USA" and highly recommend "A Lion in the House." The filmmakers followed several families who have children with cancer for around 5 years. It's really long but incredibly moving.

Posted by: Nicole at May 2, 2008 8:53 AM

DARKON!

Posted by: GinKirk at May 2, 2008 10:23 AM

zenhound--Thanks for the tip about Frank and Cindy! I loved the TAL piece.

Posted by: frumpiefox at May 2, 2008 10:51 AM

Ben: Loved The Corporation even though I wanted to kill myself after I saw it. Not so optimistic, is it?

Also, I CAN'T believe no one has mentioned The Dancing Outlaw. It is touching, funny, heartbreaking, and completely enthralling.

Also, anyone see Born Into Brothels? For me it is the perfect answer to those nagging 'objectivity' questions that plague documentarians and journalists. These women get involved to create a change. It is lovely.

Posted by: boo at May 2, 2008 11:19 AM

I love documentaries and there are quite a few on this list I haven't seen, so thanks for that.

I also wholeheartedly recommend Murderball,the Devil and Daniel Johnston, and the 7 Up series.

A couple of other obscure choices that I often show my new friends:

The Subconcious Art of Graffiti Removal by Portland filmmaker Matt McCormick - a tongue-in-cheek and hilarious look at the unintentional modernist art that results from the covering of graffiti, narrated by Miranda July. He has made some other interesting short docs that can be ordered as a collection from rodeofilmco.com.

Dark Days by Marc Singer - fascinating film about homeless people living in the subway tunnels under New York City. Singer actually moved into the tunnels himself for something like a year. I originally was interested in this because of the 'tunnel people' urban legend, but Singer actually does a very good job of limiting the sensationalism and portraying the film's subjects as pretty ordinary, relatable people. Score by DJ Shadow.

I'm sure there are others I just can't remember right now.

Posted by: karina at May 2, 2008 12:26 PM

I can't believe I forgot Winged Migration and Dave Chappelle's Block Party! Not that DCBP is really an in-depth expose, but it is awfully fun to watch.

Posted by: karina at May 2, 2008 12:47 PM

..with the exception of soccer, of course -- you can love almost any competitive sport..

Booo. I recommend the documentary Once in a Lifetime. It chronicles the rise and fall of soccer in America in the 70s.

More importantly, why on earth have you not included Titicut Follies?

Posted by: imk at May 2, 2008 2:03 PM

bucdaddy, you sum'bitch,

I cannot BELIEVE how stupid I am for not remembering to include 'When We Were Kings', definitely one of my top 5 docs of all 'times', as Ali would say.

I absolutely LOVE this f*cking film, having seen it at least half a dozen times, and I think that the main reason I kept that one separated from my other thoughts was because it simply transcended beyond JUST a documentary; it is an entertaining, thrilling, beautifully-directed piece that keeps your attention (and agitation) just like the best of fictional, edge-of-your-seat action adventures with Indiana Jones and Rocky and other icons I can't think of now. To me, this is a MOVIE movie, not just a documentary designed as a drama; it is as pure drama as you get, thanks to the incredible wealth of footage, and you can watch it just like the most absorbing of action films: the good guy, despite the very worst conditions and setbacks they may face, will eventually win.
Ali is the single greatest figure in 20th-century sports, love or hate him, and after watching this you'll understand exactly why I feel that way.

That was a GREAT mention, bucdaddy, and thanks for getting me all riled up about it again.

Posted by: TMax at May 2, 2008 7:13 PM

Very well put, TMax. Words I'd like to come out of my mouth. Watching that alongside "Stop Making Sense" is medicinal. You are ready to take on your crappy life and beat its ass, and even have fun doing so.

When Ali came out with the torch in Atlanta...oh SHIT.

Posted by: Jay at May 2, 2008 7:54 PM

what about "the cruise"?

Posted by: jasper at May 2, 2008 11:56 PM

Happy to help, TMax, and you're absolutely right. It's a beautiful film.

Lisa S is spot on about "Lost in La Mancha."

However, my hopes of being accorded official honorary Mountaineer status after living in West Virginia almost 20 years have been seriously devastated by my failure to think of "Dancing Outlaw" (and its sequel, which I think was "Jesco Goes Hollywood").

Damn you, boo. Damn you to hell. I was thisclose.

Posted by: bucdaddy at May 3, 2008 12:14 AM

Oops, sorry. Should be: insertclevernamehere is spot on about "Lost in La Mancha."

Jay, Was going to mention "Stop Making Sense" but figured the conert film is a slightly different genre.

Posted by: bucdaddy at May 3, 2008 12:23 AM

Ooops, sorry, that should be: insertclevernamehere is spot on about "Lost in la Mancha."

Posted by: bucdaddy at May 3, 2008 12:24 AM

Was going to mention "Stop Making Sense" but figured the conert film is a slightly different genre.

No, it is, but I mention it because it's also got a deliberate story arc, where anxiety ends in exultation. It's sort of David's opera character, but the thrill of the gigantic band and those songs is all real. Pairing David with Muhammad gets you chocolate and peanut butter-power soul stirring.

"Ali looked, as if he looked into himself and said 'alright this is the moment. this is what you've been waiting for. This is that hour - and do you have the guts'. And he kind of nodded to himself like 'gotta get it together boy, you really gotta get it together, and you are gonna get it together..."

With Norman telling the story it easily matches Superman's arrival in "Kingdom Come" and my eyes cannot remain dry. And it really happened (see: my praise of the Apollo program above).

One can also serve "Mule Variations" as an appetizer so Tom can order you to nut up, and you know he's right.

Posted by: Jay at May 3, 2008 1:54 AM

Amanda47, "The white coaches who set them up to fail academically..."

WHAT THE FUCK?

The white coaches or to be correct, the white coach in the movie went out of his way to help the negro kids succeed academically, as it was in the coaches best interest. He arranged for special tutoring above and beyond the call.

You have a choice:

1) Give specific instances in the movie where the WHITE COACH deliberately and consciously sets out to cause the NEGRO KIDS to fail.

2) Apologize admit that you were utterly and completely wrong and are nothing more then a lying twat whose cooze is filled with shiot and puss.

Posted by: Ben at May 3, 2008 2:54 PM

Ben, did you REALLY just use the term "negro?"

REALLY?
i don't know why crazy race related things continue to happen to me.

anywhooooooooo
Dig is my absolute favorite documentary ever. Yes, it's pretentious; yes, both bands are pretentious; yes, at some points you don't even know what's going on but that's what is awesome about it. But it's sheer ridiculousness is what makes the documentary real. You know there are people out there that take themselves this seriously, that think that their band is making a difference, that they are single handedly going to change the world of music as we know it.
And what makes this so perfect if that both bands are just mediocre at best. Sure, I'll listen to "Bohemian Like You" and "We Used to Be Friends" (if only because it's the theme song of Veronica Mars) but just because the song is catchy. They didn't do anything else that any mainstream pop and hasn't done before. And lord knows I can't name one song by Brian Jonestown Massacre, but at least they tried to be a little weird, which is still not as original.

I think Dig pointed out to me that the music world is not really changing and everything anyone does is just something that someone else has done. And as a music fan, I think that's important to realize.

And also, Courtney and Anton hating each other is pretty much the funniest shit I've ever sit down and watched.

That being said, my friend and I were so obsessed with this movie that we change our profile pictures on facebook to Courtney and Anton and just took digs at each other on our walls.
It was ridiculous, kind of like their real life not-tragic feud.

Posted by: Rica at May 3, 2008 3:50 PM

Jay and buc, I am admittedly very late to this review/comments post at this point, and I'm sincerely hoping you'll check this review commentary one more time- if you are: thank you my friends, for answering and entertaining me with that excellent quote from Norman Mailer - his and George Plimpton's descriptions of the events are a key ingredient to fully appreciating this movie.

To think that less than 15 years ago I could not have cared less for documentary films, albeit for a few, and that now I can't seem to get enough-

It's part of my nature, folks - I wanna know the absolute worse that could happen, (especially after these last eight years of madness), that documentaries can inform us of, depending on the courage of the visionary and the no-holds barred way of injecting oneself into the most tense of situations, while merely being a bystander with a camera in their hand. And to do so in as entertaining a way as 'Farenheit 911' or Gore's informative film, knowing that there are voices, and visions, out there, that tackle even the most difficult of subjects and yet present them in a relatable way to the audience, who luckily is open-minded enough to accept it for what it is-
I am truly grateful to express opinions with a group that I trust and always rely on - the Pajibans.

Long live us all!

I appreciate the chance to comment, even if no one else reads it, but I loved this subject so much that it was really refreshing to read all of the wonderful and equally-deserving titles that the Pajiba crowd couldn't let go unignored, and I am sincerely grateful and privileged to feel a part of this crowd.

Dustin, Ranylt, John, Daniel, et al- you are excellent reviewers who keep us coming back for more. But the privilege you give us Pajiba readers to respond in our own ways is even a bigger allowance, and acknowledgement, that your reading audience is just as well-tuned to current entertainment/movie-related news as all youse guys are, only that you do it so frakkin' graefully and eloquently that we depend on your reviews to guide us before we reach any further conclusions as to the ultimate question: do we or do we not want to see this movie??

Personally, I'm ashamed. It's not 4:00 here on the east coast and I'm already 3 sheets to the wind from drinking some fine Chardonnay, so I'll be in bed before you have supper tonight.

Stopping whilst I'm behind

Posted by: TMax at May 3, 2008 4:01 PM

Just a note: Little Edie is not hiding her thinning her. She doesn't have any hair. There are a couple of different stories about this; one is that she had cancer and it never grew back (You'll note she doesn't really have eyebrows either.) and another, freakier version was that she, in a fit of madness and rebellion, climbed a tree and burned it off.

Also worth watching (I actually liked it better than Grey Gardens itself) is the other documentary on the Criterion version. It's less shrill and more beautiful.

Posted by: kuaptic at May 3, 2008 4:07 PM

RICA,

I refreshed & caught your comments on 'Dig', after I wrote my own long diatribe on something else, and I must tell you that your perceptions of this doc are dead on, and I loved reading your post.

I believe you understood this film for the exact honesty and naked emotion(s) that came from people who really had no idea of the effects their own pretentious thoughts of self-worth would take on them (see: obscurity & painful self-realization))

THAT'S how addicted I am to this site: I constantly refresh on here because nothing else on the net is worth reading and/or responding to.

And just when I think I'm finished responding, people like you have to come along and give a new, refreshing, coherent, non-judgemental yet obviously favorable review of a truly unique documentary.

All you people impress me so. Thanks.

G'night all. (

Posted by: TMax at May 3, 2008 4:17 PM

Rica,


Ben, did you REALLY just use the term "negro?"

Sure did.

Twice in fact.

So fucking what?

Are you actually going to claim that the word "negro" is now a racial slur and officially taboo and added to the list of words you can never say on television or else the country will lose the war on terror?

Are you actually saying that the word "negro" is just as bad if not worse then the word "nigger?"

If either/both of the above are true, then you:

1) Are fucking insane.

2) Are a fucking whackjob.

3) Are a 'tard moron of the lowest IQ.

I mean, I must have missed that memo wherein todays American NEGRO leaders declared that henceforth, from this day/hour/minute/second forward the word "NEGRO" is a racial slur on a par with "nigger" and thus is unacceptable."

Give me a cite for the press release and newspaper articles on THAT one.

Or was it in Reverend Wright's past few sermons?

Moron.

Posted by: Ben at May 4, 2008 5:06 PM

Um, er...

LAST!!!??!!!

(dramatic pause)

YYEAHH BABY YEAHH (best Austin Powers impersonation)

Score one for the T-Man, booyahh!!!

Shit, I wanted to succeed at something this weekend, and this was the best I could think of-

YES, ANY FUTURE DICKWAD POSTING, ALL SARCASTIC COMMENTS NOTED AND ACKNOWLEDGED WITH MY EVER-PRESENT 'FUCK YOU'!!

& La la la la la, I neither hear or read you after I sign off tonight.

Sorry, Just trying to get ripped before starting yet another boring-ass work week with the government, please forgive the outburst.

& La la la I can't hear you by the way, did I say that?

Yeah, I'm pretty desperate this weekend.

Posted by: TMax at May 4, 2008 6:46 PM

I just watched Devil's Playground today-the documentary about when Amish kids turn 16 they go through this process (?) called "Rumspringa," where they get to go out and experience the real world (or, as they call it, 'the devil's playground'), and at the end decide whether they want to fully commit to the church or not. It was super interesting, and definitely worth watching. About 5 minutes in I realized everything I knew about Amish people was totally wrong. I can't believe no one's mentioned it yet.

Posted by: Siobhan at May 4, 2008 10:28 PM

Ben,

I'm going to assume that you're not a "negro" since you decided to use the term multiple times.

I'm not saying that using the word "negro" is as bad as using the n-word (which i am also surprised you typed) but I'm just saying that it sounds outdated, ridiculous and in the way you used it, racist.

just as an fyi, you are the one who is a big moron, let's bring the discussion back to documentaries.

kthanx

Posted by: Rica at May 4, 2008 11:09 PM

Siobhan,

Thanks for mentioning The Devil's Playground. I had meant to see that one and it had fallen out of my memory.

Posted by: imk at May 5, 2008 2:15 PM