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Adolescent Cartoons for a Post-Adolescent World

Pajiba’s Guide to What’s Good for You / Phillip Stephens

Guides | November 27, 2006 | Comments (160)


Like many, I have perennial nostalgia for things relating to my childhood. I grew up over-participating in that quintessentially American activity — television. And 90 percent of that television in my formative years consisted of cartoons. My Saturday mornings would see my masochistic rise before 6:00 AM and impatient wait through the test pattern and national anthem before some obscure little show like “Camp Candy” would inaugurate the next five hours of flickering oblivion. I watched everything from the supposedly toddler or girl-oriented shows like “Care Bears” or “The Wuzzles,” to early stabs at high fantasy like “Thundercats,” “The Pirates of Dark Water,” or “Conan the Adventurer” with equal relish. I was an animation junkie.

It was an obsession that survived the browbeating onset of “maturity” through eight years of high school and college and has remained to this day. Not only do I still set aside my allegedly high-minded viewings once in a while to take in a good cartoon, but thanks to the DVD era, I can revisit the classics of my halcyon youth. Sadly though, the availability of previously watched (and worshipped) staples of my childhood has led to the heartbreaking realization that old shows like “G.I. Joe” or “He-Man” — so enchanting for younglings — are almost unwatchable from an adult vantage point. Seldom do the classics of yesteryear survive the times in which they were produced, let alone in children’s entertainment — a medium with fickle pretenses, considering that it can be detrimentally manipulated by those concerned with the impressionable effect it can have on its young audience.

But it does happen that, through gutsiness and ingenuity in the writing, a few shows became more than a vehicle for merchandising or the limp clichés rampant in so-called kids’ shows. These animated series were almost always envelope-pushing, often controversial for their darker edge. It was all the more ironic that these shows became almost religiously venerated by their fans, not least of all because their creators had the balls to try complex stories and dark themes and not pander to their (literally) childish clientele by merely opting for comedy.

In the interest of exclusion, I decided to pare this list down not only to animated shows that survived the test of time critically, but also to cartoons whose ostensible audience was young but that, through ambitious and bold presentation of ideas or themes, were still palatable to more mature viewers. I also chose not to include the opposite — shows geared exclusively toward post-adolescent mindsets, which is why you won’t find “The Simpsons” or anything from Adult Swim here. This is a very subjective list of personal favorites, but I tried to choose cartoons whose time has come and gone but that still command enough presence to remain quality entertainment for all ages.

dungeons.jpg Dungeons and Dragons, 1983-1986 — Only tangentially related to the iconic board game, “Dungeons and Dragons” was one of the first cartoons to present a complicated ethical universe with any success: Six kids of diverse makeup are transported to an ethereal realm and forced to contend with the harshness of the world around them in addition to a pained longing for home. They’re aided by Dungeon Master, a Yoda-like mentor who sends them on quests that are meant not only to aid in their search for home but also to develop their ethical compasses. The premise sounds geeky, but “Dungeons and Dragons” gave much more emotion to its characters than many of its two-dimensional counterparts, and it was perhaps the first to imbue its drama with a sense of gravitas. The fantasy adventures of the children serve not as set pieces that exist for their own sake but didactic explorations that teach them the complicated reality of “do-good” actions, as supporting one another and helping others often resulted in their detriment. This show achieved a remarkably small but ardent cult status, and is finally slated for complete DVD release later this year.

PrinceValiant.gif The Legend of Prince Valiant, 1991-1994 — Based on the Hal Foster comic strip, this re-imagining of the Arthurian universe also pushed the boundaries of what should be considered children’s entertainment. The cartoon medium didn’t stop the creators of “Prince Valiant” from presenting the darkness and violence of the legend (which would be pointless without it). The show follows the adventures of the titular prince as he makes the difficult decision to leave home and seek out knighthood in the idealistic realm of Camelot. In addition to its frank presentation of darker themes, this show is notable for its dense and long-running plot arcs, perhaps the first in animated television to really have an intricate continuity.

batmananimated.jpg Batman: The Animated Series, 1992-1995 (Original run) — The dark-drenched morbidity of post-Frank Miller Batman had been made popular through comic books and Tim Burton’s films, but the franchise had yet to successfully translate to a younger audience until this series, created by Bruce Timm and Eric Radomski. Not only was the pair able to replicate the world of Gotham without wholly compromising its darkness, but they gave it a fresh spin by placing the show in a ’50s Art Deco-noir universe of their own making. The show also featured outstanding music (based on Danny Elfman’s film scores) and voice-work, most notably by Luke Skywalker himself, Mark Hamill, who has made the best Joker to date (and yes, I include Nicholson is this estimation).

xmencartoon.jpg X-Men, 1992-1997 — If I had to pick one granddaddy of animated TV, this would be it. Taking a well-known Marvel universe with its unending string of arcs and characters, this show still managed to eke out a strong, cohesive whole without sacrificing much of its enormous canon. The theme of the day: It’s hard being a superhero. In addition to wrangling with monsters, aliens, and super-villains, this cadre of gifted mutants had to contend with a myriad of personal and emotional problems as well as the prejudices of a society that feared them. The show had excellent voice casting, production values, great long-running story arcs, dynamic personalities (including Magneto, one of the best villains in animation), and a relatable sense of ethics. Plus, the action and camaraderie were unparalleled. The stories and characters are enough to hook older viewers, while the superhuman elements are positively addictive to youngsters; from top to bottom, a great show. It’s criminal that this series hasn’t seen a comprehensive DVD release, though bootlegs are available.

gargoyles.jpg Gargoyles, 1994-1997 — In a similar vein to “X-Men”, but with a unique universe that pulled together various cultural and Shakespearean mythologies, “Gargoyles” represented another example of success in pushing the envelope of traditional “kiddie” shows when its creator, Greg Weisman, had the balls to deal out complicated narrative and character plotlines alongside a strong sense of ethics. What was perhaps most remarkable was that said envelope in this case belonged to Disney. “Gargoyles” had everything from mythical monsters to Arthurian legend, science-fiction technology, and time-travel, and yet somehow dealt out these outlandish fantasies without seeming dumb. Weisman wrote and produced two excellent seasons of the show before Disney took the reins for a horrid third without his involvement; generally this last season is ignored by anyone with taste. The show’s rabid fanbase has continually propagated interest, and a comic book series by Weisman has attempted to pick up where the canon left off.

daria.jpg Daria, 1997-2002 — Who would’ve thought that a “Beavis and Butthead” spinoff would have been worth anything? “Daria” has the distinction of being the only (sort-of) female-oriented show on the list; it’s also one of a select few aimed specifically at teenagers. But regardless of its target demographic, this was one of the most relatable shows for high schoolers in or out of animation. Its humor was sharp, its characters memorable, and its dilemmas familiar. Daria became one of the better mouthpieces of Generation Y, and also stands, in my opinion, as the only good thing to come out of MTV in 25 years of broadcasting shite.

kenshin.jpg Rurouni Kenshin, 1998-2000 — Well, this is going to be a contentious one. Most of the people I know loathe anime. Indeed, Japanese animation as a whole seems to either be loved or utterly reviled by Westerners. I counted myself among the haters until the work of Hayao Miyazaki (though largely unrelated to mainstream anime) perked my interest, which led me to discover this excellent series, and I’ll contend that even the most fervent anime atheists should give it a shot. The story follows Kenshin Himura, a peerless samurai who served as an assassin, aiding in the overthrow of the Tokugawa Shogunnate. After revolution’s end, he renounces killing and wanders Japan for a decade before settling in Tokyo, the new capital, and amassing a small entourage of friends for the first time in his life. Kenshin’s disavowal of lethal violence dominates his present characterization, but his bloody reputation and legacy continue to dog him. Even though many may find the peculiar tropes of anime off-putting (some battles last the span of several episodes, with the characters endlessly explicating the proceedings), the show still utilizes great storytelling across an epic, historically astute background, with one man’s redemption as the centerpiece. And that’s a great story no matter the medium.

futurama.jpg Futurama, 1999-2003 … ? — What I initially thought was just a Simpsons sidebar by Matt Groening eventually became a great show in its own right. Groening and co-creator David X. Cohen crafted a hysterical little universe around one dolt’s accidental foray into the future — a world that allows for endless riffing and Groening’s trademark jocular sarcasm. But instead of simply resting on its comedic laurels (which would’ve been fine), the show took a more serious turn as it neared cancellation, tingeing it with additional depth; great comedy, in the most classical terms, has always been 49 percent maudlin. It’s a testimony to the show’s enduring popularity that it seems to have been resuscitated in the form of DVD movies due to popular outcry. And man, is it funny.

xmenevolution.jpgX-Men: Evolution, 2000-2003 — Not a great show, but a good one, and lots of fun for X-Men devotees. It doesn’t quite measure up to its older brother (found above), but it does succeed in areas that its predecessor did not. For one, it’s aesthetically superior. For another, it transports the action to a high school setting, transposing much of the superheroics to a backdrop of adolescent turmoil, which is what the comics were all about in the first place. The relationships between the characters aren’t quite as complicated and involved as the ‘92 series or the comics, but the sense of friendship and camaraderie is heightened in excellent action sequences and its dorm-like setting of a bunch of kids living in and goofing around in the X-Mansion. The show also manages to juggle a huge number of characters relatively well. At the end of the day, “X-Men: Evolution” wasn’t outstanding, but it was a fun and highly identifiable reinvention of a familiar world.

teen-titans.jpgTeen Titans, 2003-2006 — In a similar vein to “X-Men: Evolution” this DC counterpart went relatively short on characterization and heavy on action, but still managed both effectively. Produced by the same team that did the aforementioned “Batman,” this show had a distinct look and feel, with a wildly dynamic animation heavily influenced by anime, but was still distinctly American. “Teen Titans” used a fairly simplified formula: good guys fight bad guys every episode, with only occasional continuity, yet its presentation was fresh and inventive enough that it never felt boring. The action was fun, the characters likable, and the humor spot-on. And that’s what cartoons are all about.

Phillip Stephens is the lead critic for Pajiba. He lives in Fayetteville, AR.









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Comments

[...]shows geared exclusively towards post-adolescent mindsets, which is why you won't find "The Simpsons" or anything from Adult Swim here.

Why Futurama then?

You know what I'd include instead? Samurai Jack. It's awesome.

watchaaaaaaaaaaaa

Perhaps my estimation of Futurama's audience is younger than others'. The shows I wanted to include did range from a very young demographic to teens or even college "kids," but I felt like this show was especially appealing to those even younger than that.
~Phillip

Posted by: Sunsneezer at November 27, 2006 10:12 AM

These are some remarkable toons. Although I have to disagree about the '90's X-Men cartoon. I thought it was pretty much unwatchable.

An ugly, ugly show. Bad animation with a character design style that should never have even been attempted in a cartoon. All the aesthetic appeal of a wet fart. Bad writing, and some of the worst voiceover work I've heard this side of the Superfriends.
Really, compared to the Batman animated series you mention above (which were on during the same time period, on the same channel), this X-Men show was just embarrassing.

Posted by: wolfe at November 27, 2006 10:13 AM

At last, someone else who truly loves Futurama! And will admit it in public!! Good on ya!

So, how about "The Tick"?? Not the ill-fated live-action, of course, but the often brilliant animated series..Spooooon!!

Posted by: wildman at November 27, 2006 10:29 AM

As an anime fan, I've unfortunately sat through hours of battle scenes with characters shouting their moves at each other (Inu-yasha, anyone?), and although that's not my favorite genre, I'll go ahead and add Rurouni Kenshin to my Netflix queue.

In the end, though, I'll watch animation from any country and/or culture, if the story is good and the art watchable. And the odd, and often incomprehensible cultural quirks are just part of the fun.

Posted by: pinkcheese at November 27, 2006 10:32 AM

I can remember being really freaked out by some of the stuff on D&D but that was probably due to the fact that I was only nine years old. I'd love to have a look at them again.

I was also scared of Mummra. No wonder my parents wouldn't let me watch the Thriller video. Meh.

One show I can't NOT give props to was the CBS storybook hour. How I loved Rikki Tikki Tavi slay the evil cobras! And of course, the one about the Witch and her cat, Miss Switch. And you can never forget the irrepressible anti-vegetarian, Bunnicula!!

Posted by: amanda at November 27, 2006 10:32 AM

Yay, I second the Spooon!!!!

Posted by: pinkcheese at November 27, 2006 10:34 AM

My love for Futurama is hardcore.

Posted by: The Stew at November 27, 2006 10:55 AM

Yeah - I forgot to mention every part of me loves Futurama. And that I'm thouroughly thrilled that it returns. Still, it's mostly references that young adults will get and enjoy much more than adolescents. Pulp, 80's culture... and try googling futurama math humor.

Posted by: Sunsneezer at November 27, 2006 11:09 AM

I love Rurouni Kenshin, yes I do

Posted by: LadySpankington at November 27, 2006 11:23 AM

rocko's modern life.
best show ever.

Posted by: sally at November 27, 2006 11:42 AM

Where's the love for The Tick and Sam & Max?

Posted by: thatguy at November 27, 2006 11:50 AM

The first thing I did when I clicked on the link adn the page loaded was look for two names: Batman and Gargoyles. You now have full cartoon credibility with me.

I will also declare my love for Futurama, and I watched it back when it was on Fox (before the sudden resurgence due once again to Adult Swim). I must say, though, that I agree that putting it on the list is a bit contradictory to the qualifications you set forth. It was a primetime series and obviously targeted towards adult audiences, much like the Simpsons.

Anyway, great list. I am guessing you consider the other DC Animated Universe shows as extensions of the ideas put forth by Batman: TAS. And while I may not agree with you on the X-Men cartoons, I say that Teen Titans makes up for that.

P.S. Samurai Jack really should be considered. In case you even want to add or switch out or something.

Posted by: Vermillion at November 27, 2006 11:50 AM

Oh how I miss Daria!

Posted by: Siobhan at November 27, 2006 11:51 AM

Great list, but you forgot about "Exo-Squad." Space-operas and fighting robots are cool at any age.

Posted by: Frank at November 27, 2006 12:04 PM

where oh where is Freakazoid? why must this cartoon be forgotten?

Kudos to Daria and Futurama!

Posted by: Jennifer at November 27, 2006 12:17 PM

I would gladly have substituted Samurai Jack for Teen Titans. Teen Titans started out okay, but then the formula got boring, and they tried to make up for it by throwing in a pile of anime influences and pointless filler. Samurai Jack was about a samurai that actually didn't always win, and learned from his mistakes.

Also, what about Megas XLR? That show contained some of the best humor I've ever seen in an American cartoon that wasn't on prime time.

Posted by: Dr. Haus at November 27, 2006 12:28 PM

Add my "Tick"-love to the pile of props... same for Daria and Futurama (which, to me was MUCH funnier than the Simpsons). One series that never seems to get any love is "Animaniacs" which was, at it's best, brilliant satire. Their send-up of "Saturday Night Live" was genius.

Posted by: Spender at November 27, 2006 12:33 PM

Freakazoid. This comedy was way beyond its target demo, but somehow I found it funny as a youngster. Now when I watch it, I find myself laughing at the non-sequitur and the irony. It really is good comedy.

Animaniacs. I don't know how this one slipped by you. This is basically animated gold. Yakko's song bits, easily some of the most creative musical animated sequences in what I would call the "modern era" of cartoons. All the countries in the world? That's bananas. It was funny as a kid but watching it now, I find extra funny for my educated mind as well.

Kim Possible. A more modern favorite, but definitely secure in my favorite cartoons harem. It's what good cartoons used to be. The comedy is both high and low, with your standard stable of physical comedy and sight gags, but the dialog pushes a different envelope, especially the villains. Anyway, good times from Disney, check it out.

Reboot. Maybe this one was only fun if you were a budding computer techie nerd-geek larvae, but I loved this show. Dot Matrix? COME ON! That's punny gold! And the totally futuristic computer animation...a mention, at least.

Tiny Toon Adventures. It was the whimsy of Looney Tunes with edgier comedy. They did animated music videos for They Might Be Giants songs, for pete's sake. I didn't even know who They Might Be Giants were, but I knew all the words to Istanbul.

The New Adventures of Johnny Quest. This show rocked so hard. I'm not even going to justify mentioning it. If you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about.

Perhaps this is because you think they didn't carry over into grown-up watchability, but where are the classic Disney shows? Rescue Rangers? Darkwing Duck? Tale Spin? Surely, being the sort of dedicated cartoon aficionado you were and are, these were favorites, at least childhood ones. I'd figure on them at least getting a mention.

And I'm with the others on Futurama being DQ'd. I love Futurama in an unnatural way (I just named two mission critical servers at my job bender and zoidberg), but it doesn't fit with your requirements. That show was prime time and mature themed.

Posted by: Adam Michel at November 27, 2006 12:33 PM

Ok, the original X-men got a little silly with the space/time plotlines, but the characterization was so much better than the 2000 version there's just no comparison. The newer one is just awful; endless excuses to get angsty 'goth' Rogue to dress in mesh and completely random exclusion of key original characters. At one point the cooler set and the rebel girls all join a school play just so we can see a couple minutes of them in skimpy outfits club-dancing. Can't believe it made the list.

Posted by: boo at November 27, 2006 12:41 PM

Oh, oops, forgot - Gargoyles was awesome, definitely deserves to be up there. I actually have the theme song...

Posted by: boo at November 27, 2006 12:43 PM

Adam Michel: I absolutely agree, Animaniacs was supreme (remember the Song that Never Ends [yes it goes on and on my friends]?)

Also, what about SpongeBob SquarePants? Don't tell me there's nothing for adults there.

Posted by: Ruby at November 27, 2006 12:49 PM

Agreed on the original X-Men. I was head-over-heels in love with that show as a nine year old because the characters actually seemed like real people - they cared about each other.

I also liked the Spider-Man cartoon that was on at around the same time. Does anyone remember that one?

Posted by: Rosie at November 27, 2006 12:54 PM

While my heart cheered to see both X-Men cartoons (Sorry...I'm an unabashed comic geek...),Batman: TAS (Again...Comic Geek), Futurama (Hilarious and yes possibly better than the Simpsons), Gargoyles (Jonathan Frakes is a great voice actor...gives me shudders) as well as Daria (My best friend is the human version...maybe this is why I loved it so).

I found myself missing other gems mentioned, Freakazoid, Animaniacs, and Tiny Toon Adventures (Just Baby Plucky alone makes me giggle). The there's other gems that may fall into the Adult Swim trap...most notably Bromwell High (Seriously...watch it...Kiesha is my GOD). There were also golden classics like Jem and the Hollograms...which I've started rewatching...its cheesy...but oh so fun.

Anyway I suppose my rambling, gramatically incorrect point is cudos on the nod to cartoons.

Posted by: Ms. Parker at November 27, 2006 12:56 PM

Dammit, Adam Michel, now I am going to have those lyrics stuck in my head all day!

Istanbul was once Constantinople, but its Instanbul, not Constantinople...

But I have seen New Adventures of Jonny Quest, and I do know what you're talking about. Another old favorite. Thanks for the Reboot shoutout as well.

That is why I like topics like this. Mr. Stephens listed the shows he wanted (in no particular order), and now others are getting the chance to express their favorites.

Posted by: Vermillion at November 27, 2006 1:00 PM

As everyone said up there, Samurai Jack is definitely one of the greatest shows of the new millenium, and unlike Futurama, was definitely aimed at kids. Actually the inclusion of Futurama is really weird there since you seem to ignore all kids comedy shows, and hence, almost all the Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon shows.

I loved watching a lot of the stuff on MTV as well (Liquid TV, The Head, The Maxx, Aeon Flux!) though I guess it's clear that stuff wasn't aimed at kids either. But yeah, big ups for Batman, mid-90s X-Men (which is somewhat forgotten in light of Evolution and the films that came out afterward)

Fox's Spider-Man (mid-90s, and NOT that one in space) wasn't bad either - they actually had season-long storyarcs and such, decently done. Not quite as good as X-men, though.

Posted by: Anonoguy at November 27, 2006 1:00 PM

Until the advent of YouTube I thought that D&D was the product of my fevered 5 year old brain, not an actual show. no one I knew had watched that show and it killed me to think it had fallen into oblivion. I may have to grab the DVD, for, uh, my (eventual) kids.

Posted by: Theresa at November 27, 2006 1:16 PM

Skimming the comments again I missed that mention of ReBoot, one of my favorites as well. A show that was initially aimed at very young children, and gradually grew in maturity with its audience... and the fact that there were years between the 3rd and 4th seasons. Fantastic show. Beast Wars was pretty good too. Ah, I miss the old Mainframe Entertainment.

Posted by: Anonoguy at November 27, 2006 1:22 PM

My favorite will always be the mid-90's Spider-Man. That's the only cartoon I'd buy on DVD (if they ever get around to releasing the whole series on DVD). Unfortunately all the Spider-Man cartoons they've made since then haven't been very good (especially the space one where he's one the planet with the talking animals).

And I also loved the early/mid 90's Bat Man and X-Men as well.

Posted by: Scott at November 27, 2006 1:46 PM

Man I can totally remeber waking up at the ass-crack of dawn to watch my cartoons. Now the ass-crack of dawn for me is about 12. Anyway...I loved the X-Men series. I thought it got a little carried away and strayed to far from the core X-Men towards the end. But overall it was good. Another cartoon I really enjoyed that was on during the same time period was Spiderman. I thought they did a great job with just about every character on the show and especially Peter Parker. Two things jumped out at me while watching it: all of the females were hot, especially Felicia Harding; and if Aunt May would just die already, Peter would be getting laid constantly and his life would be much easier.

Posted by: Dave at November 27, 2006 1:54 PM

I heart Daria!

Posted by: Bianca Reagan at November 27, 2006 2:09 PM

Gargoyles - I thought that I was the only person over 25 who even knew this existed. I LOVE THAT SHOW.

And, as far as Daria goes, I [to this day] want to BE Jane. I once punched my brother for comparing me to Quinn. He was thirty-five at the time. I was 25.

Posted by: Kitty X at November 27, 2006 2:25 PM

After my beloved Beavis and Butthead ended, I feared that I would never get attached to an "adult" cartoon again...until I saw Daria. One of the best shows MTV ever aired. Even now, I go to IMDB just to read the quotes and LMAO.

Daria used to air on that teen channel Noggin, but I don't think it does anymore. I do know that it was condensed version. Those bastards. Just have to ruin a good thing.

Adam Michel, I remember all those cartoons, especially TailSpin, (with Monterey Jack, LOL) cause Charles in Charge came on right after it! God, those memories. Animaniacs was a great follow up to Tiny Toon Adventures. And yes, I had a Tiny Toons lunchbox, and I carried it with pride.

Rocko's Modern Life should definitely be on this list. Remember the restaurant they frequented called Chokey Chicken? Nickelodeon had to change it eventually. If that ain't adult, I don't know what is.

And where the hell is Ren & Stimpy? I learned how to slap people watching Ren.

Posted by: Brie at November 27, 2006 2:27 PM

Captain Planet, anyone? Maybe it wasn't as brillant as Daria, but it taught a seven year old that funny accents are good and, with enough confidence, one can rock a teal mullet.

Posted by: aratweth at November 27, 2006 2:32 PM

Much love for "X-Men," "Batman," "Gargoyles," and "D&D." Boo on "X-Men Evolution." Never watched the others, although I've heard that "Daria" is a must-see for me.

Also, much love to "Animaniacs."

Anyone else out there ever watch "Histeria?" Loved that show... WB, like Animaniacs and Tiny Toons. On top of the funny (and some hilarious characters: Lucky Bob was my fave), it was pretty darned accurate. If I taught elementary school, I'd totally make my students watch it.

Posted by: Jelinas at November 27, 2006 2:46 PM

Dragonball Z...300 episodes (talk about your story-arcs)and it inspired most of the "new" anime out there. Sure the fight sequences were predictable and took forever. But there were adult themes (homo-erotic tension and an affair resulting in baby born out of wedlock) and kiddie messages (believe in yourself, treasure your friends, work hard and you will overcome all odds). Kamehamehaaa!

Posted by: wavemaven at November 27, 2006 2:49 PM

Woof. The only one of those shows I was ever able to stomach was Daria and I love that one. Did you have cable during the mid-nineties? It seems like you must have missed a whole slew of really great shows that were on Nickelodeon during the same period as a bunch of the ones you mention.

Posted by: jbrader at November 27, 2006 3:08 PM

Doug. Why am I the only one who loved Doug?

Daria practically got me through high school, though.

Posted by: Brussels at November 27, 2006 3:37 PM

Count Duckula! I can't remember anything about that show other than I had to rush home from school so's not to miss it.

Great list. D&D was my favorite Saturday Morning cartoon. I used to pretend I was the chick with the cloak that made her invisible.

Posted by: phquaryn at November 27, 2006 3:46 PM

Okay, this list is great, and the comments are just as good, but I feel I have to point out one glaring omission: Batman Beyond. That show kicks serious ass.

Posted by: BlackWolf at November 27, 2006 3:56 PM

Mid-90s X-Men ruled all. They even had a series finale where Professor X was exposed and injured to near-death. I remember scenes of riots and mutant uprisings around the world, and the talk between Cyclops and Magneto before Magneto's big speech to millions of fanatics and thinking, "this is pretty good storytelling right here!"

I liked Daria when it was on, but looking back, the characters are just too broad for me, and the main heroine far too unlikeable and uncharismatic.

Posted by: Nerdy Nerdson at November 27, 2006 4:01 PM

How about Starblazers? Too anime for everyone's taste?

Posted by: mswas at November 27, 2006 4:13 PM

Here are my picks for childhood cartoons that I still love today (some of them for their sheer ridiculousness):

Smurfs (Papa Smurf ALWAYS says...)
Tiny Toon Adventures (beyond awesome, and the movie--Summer Vacation--was great)
Batman the Animated Series (hated Batman Beyond)
All Warner Bros. fare (I still cry with laughter when I see the Bugs Bunny Robin Hood cartoon)
The Mighty Hercules (Herc, Herc, it's Daedalus...)
Rocket Robin Hood (Canadian craptastic fantastic)
Spiderman (with the faux science and repetition of scenes)
Gummi Bears
Flintstones (how could you leave them out?!!!)
Peter Pan (the one where Captain Hook had white hair--awesome show)
Thundercats
Belle and Sebastien
Astroboy
The Little Prince
Tales of the Green Forest
Gargoyles
Sailor Moon (too funny)
Chip and Dale

God, cartoons kicked ass back then. Seriously, kids these days are deprived. I'm still a big cartoon fan, but there isn't much that kicks ass right now. Dora the Explorer and The Magic School Bus are in no way as cool as The Smurfs or Batman.

...I also have to admit that I still love He-Man and She-Ra. They're a hoot.

Posted by: Isolated Childhood at November 27, 2006 4:27 PM

Oh my god, I can't believe I forgot about Batman Beyond. At first I thought it tried too hard to be angsty and *hardc0re* but once it found its groove it was a terrific show.

Posted by: Rosie at November 27, 2006 4:43 PM

Woah. All these comments and not one mention of Robotech? Not a one? No Rick Hunter fans? Max Sterling? Skull Squadron? SDF-1? The Invid Invasion? Cyclones? Lancer aka "Yellow Dancer"? Come on people. This was /the/ greatest serialized cartoon ever. Characters died. There was a large, over-arching plot with a middle, beginning, and an end. How could all of you people with such a good taste not mention Robotech?

Posted by: Ajax at November 27, 2006 5:08 PM

Funnily enough, this topic came up in the long car ride home from Thanksgiving festivities. Many fine shows have been listed here, and I agree with most commentaters that Futurama should not be on the list as posited by Philip. I love the show to a disturbing degree, but it is definitely by every measurement an adult-oriented cartoon.


My Saturday morning cartoon habit formed in the 70s and early 80s. Philip's list is missing some hidden gems, like the amazing artwork of Tarzan (dig that well-drawn jungle!) and Jackie Mason's voicework for the Pink Panther's Anteater and Ant series. Dean Martin as an ant - how trippy is that? How about Top Cat for teaching youngsters what being hip was all about?


And in the late 80's, there was a great resurgence of new shows like the All New Adventures of Mighty Mouse, Animaniacs (as mentioned) and the animated half of the Alf Show, Alf Tales? I hated the puppet, but the animation was awesome and the stories bizarre.


Watching Saturday morning cartoons today is a big disappointment. I liked Pokemon the first couple of years, but now it's old and tired. Yu-Gi-O! will drive you insane with repetitive exposition, even my 11 year old friend who collected the cards admitted as such. I dig Kim Possible and Teen Titans, and would add My Gym-mate is a Monkey and Penny Proud to the list, but these are all on cable, available at other times, and so in my mind are not really Saturday morning cartoons. And SpongeBob still rocks, because it is imperative to keep as much nautical nonsense on TV as possible.

Posted by: CapnGravy at November 27, 2006 5:16 PM

Glad to see this list at all. Loved Daria. And was I the only person who watched Disney's Fillmore? Law and Order for the twelve year old set. Really brilliant. And no list could be complete without Reboot, Samurai Jack and Animaniacs.

Posted by: mike.grl at November 27, 2006 5:16 PM

Robotech anyone?

I mean an interracial relationship in the early 80's in a cartoon? ROy dieing from injuries sustained in combat then Ben dieing an episode later after being shot down. I was 6 years old with my mind blown out of my head. Great Show.

Posted by: josh s. at November 27, 2006 5:40 PM

Not that anyone cares, but what I would have added to the list:
Captain Planet: I hate mullets, and I hate teal. but I love Captain planet so very, very much. I pretty much play the theme song on a non-stop loop at least once a month. Shut up.
Animaniacs: Silly puns and stupid crap. I loved it so.
Tiny Toon Adventures: Covered earlier. The summer special was amazing. I need to say no more.
Reboot: I loved it up until the end of the third season, cause I never got around to watching the fourth. The premise was nerdy and pathetic, which is what made it so awesome. I still make references to "Game over. User wins," hence why I have no friends.
The earlly 90's Spiderman: I once counted 22 explosions in the first four minutes. And Venom and Carnage were awesome. I always had a soft spot for Spiderman, god knows why.
Doug: Until it got all preachy. Not that it wasn't preachy to start with. Hmm... goddamn nickelodeon.
Danger Mouse: has anybody but me seen this before? It was perhaps the greatest tv show I've ever seen. It's air on TV up here in Canada (It was a British cartoon) ended just as I started watching it, but I rented the vhs's of the episodes constantly.
Count Duckula: For years I thought I had made this up. Holy hell yeah this show rocked. Vegetarian vampire ducks? Woo! And it was a spin-off of Danger Mouse (they once met when DM was trying to un-curse a horrifically violent broom. Or something. My memory is a bit vague on this point).
The Tick: heehee. Spoon.
Darkwing duck: Splam. Not much to say about it except that I loved it and still get a chuckle out of it.

I watched too much TV as a kid. Jesus.

Posted by: Blargle at November 27, 2006 6:07 PM

Dude, I can't believe I forgot about "Robotech!" I'm thoroughly ashamed of myself.

Oh, and I wanted to give more love to "The Tick," too.

Posted by: Jelinas at November 27, 2006 6:34 PM

Ajax & josh s. - I loved Robotech. That and Voltron were my introduction (even if I didn't realize it) to anime. I cried my eyes out when Roy died - I still can't watch that arc without yelling at the screen and getting teary-eyed.

Also, I have to admit that I have 2 Animaniacs sing-along videos and 3 soundtrack cds. God I love those lunatics!!

Posted by: pinkcheese at November 27, 2006 6:34 PM

Oops - forgot to say - Danger Mouse was awesome. It played on Nickelodeon back when it was cool. I watched it along with You Can't Do That on Television.

Posted by: pinkcheese at November 27, 2006 6:36 PM

I love this. I dont think I will ever grow out of cartoons.

You forgot Avatar: The Last Airbender.

Yes, I know that it is produced by Nickelodeon and it is relatively new. But the idea that people in an alternate universe can bend water, earth, fire, and air makes for some highly stylized anime fighting. The writing isnt dumbed down either, like it is some new shows like The Batman.

Posted by: Ashley at November 27, 2006 6:39 PM

Ruby is right - how in heck could you leave out Spongebob?

Posted by: rocky at November 27, 2006 7:02 PM

My love of cartoons started with Muppet Babies, He-Man and Captain Planet. It continued with Xmen. Even as I started sleeping later on the weekend, I would get up for Xmen on Fox. It was the only cartoon I watched religiously at that time in my life, and I always have a soft spot for it. Awesome stuff. And I totally agree about Magneto. Smart and Strong, like a villain should be.

Posted by: Noel at November 27, 2006 7:29 PM

First of all, shame on you for mentioning "X-Men: Evolution". That show was like X-Men:Saved By The Bell Edition.

Second of all, Thank Christ someone mentioned "Avatar", I am seriously addicted to that Goddamn show.

Also, i'm really glad someone mentioned "The Tick", "Rocko's Modern Life", and even "Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers", but what about "Tazmania"? The main star was Taz! Come on!

Great discussion topic, but there really needs to be a seperate list for adult cartoons though. My day will brighten considerably when "The Maxx" comes out on DVD, at least before the narrative sends me spiraling into a deep depression over animated mass murders, childhood trauma, dead bunnies, and dark Iz.

Oh, and the man who praises "Doug" is going straight to hell. Every fucking episode was about him having some pansy-ass paranoid delusion ending with him going "Waaaahhhh" and then, guess what?, there really wasn't anything to worry about after all! Oh i hate that show with an untold passion!

Sorry about that.

Posted by: smatt584 at November 27, 2006 7:39 PM

Hey! These are almost all boy cartoons! Boo!

;)

But seriously, what about The Tick? I scrolled down in excited anticipation and... nothing.

Posted by: S. at November 27, 2006 7:41 PM

If you haven't checked out Avatar: The Last Airbender on Nickelodeon yet, I would definately suggest it. The show is amazing, it isn't entirely driven towards kids and is FINALLY an Asian-based cartoon without fucking Japanime influences.

Posted by: Kelly! at November 27, 2006 8:42 PM

X-men had the most badass theme ever, of pretty much anything. I listen to it at least once a week. Makes me want to knock buildings down. I'd like to see X-men as a greenscreen ultraviolent Frank Miller-esque series, using the same music and storylines. My beef with the cartoon was always that it wasn't violent enough.

Posted by: justin at November 27, 2006 9:11 PM

Voltron was the rule. Form feet and legs, form arms and body...and I'll form THE HEAD!

And what about Saturday Morning cartoons. Hulk Hogan's Rock-n-Rollmaniacs, Pole Position, Schoolhouse Rock (Conjunction Junction? I'm just a bill?) Greatest programming ever.

Posted by: SoxFan at November 27, 2006 9:14 PM

I heard they were bringing Futurama back with new shows on Comedy Central.

Posted by: Candy at November 27, 2006 9:39 PM

Okay, so thematically it doesn't really go along with the shows everyone else has been reccomending but whenever I think about cartoons on Nickelodeon one show sticks out in my mind: Invader Zim. I can't be the only person to love that show on this site. As far as dark humor goes there are few shows that compare. Also, Gir is one of the funniest cartoon characters ever created. It's simply not debateable. Other than that I agree with the shows everyone else has said, especially the Animaniacs and Samurai Jack.

Posted by: Andy at November 27, 2006 9:41 PM

Unless I missed it, how come Duck Tails was not on that list? That show had some great multi-part episodes, funny characters, and great animation. As well as the ability to swim through a mountain of gold coins, which just looks awesome.

In terms of style, Ren and Stimpy wins, hands down, as well as great classical music cues matched only by the original warner bros. cartoons.

I second or third or fourth Animanics, which was a wonderful and intelligent show with some great marx-brotherian one liners and of course, "helllloooo nurse!!!"

and of course, the penultimate CAPTAIN N THE GAME MASTER and the Supermario brothers super show.

Captain FRICKIN N people! Come on! WHose with me!

Posted by: some guy at November 27, 2006 10:09 PM

I'm glad that both Samurai Jack and Avatar: the Last Airbender have been mentioned in the comments here. Both are far more creative and fun to watch than, say, Teen Titan.

Posted by: j. at November 27, 2006 10:10 PM

Any of the Paul Dini/Bruce Timm DC Comics series, the Tick, Bleach (one of those anime type thingies)...those are a few of my favorite things.

Posted by: Adam C at November 27, 2006 11:37 PM

I also though the Critic was a great show. Don't know if it would fall under the Simpsons/futurama category, but it still had plenty of moments. Especially those involving Duke Phillips of Duke Phillipns broadcasting (formerly Duke Phillips house of chicken and waffles.)

Posted by: some guy at November 27, 2006 11:59 PM

While I agree with alot on this ever lengthening list of nostalgia nauseua I have yet to see 'Hey Arnold!' mentiond. The show was essentially a preteen psychologist solving all everyones problems but his own. Brilliant!...Also, his best friend had marge simpson hair.

And Andy, as for Zim? It has it's highlights, but I always come away feeling like a significant part of my brain has dissolved into a worthless, toxic goo. This is not a good thing.

An addition, since it applies to MY childhood animation nostolgia: Home Movies. Weeow!

Posted by: Rach at November 28, 2006 12:35 AM

Ah, brain blank, but while we're mentioning the whole block that I will now refer to as the 'animaniacs through pink and the brian' block (because it opened with animanicas and closed with the P&B) I'm bound to mention the Earth Worm Jim annimated series. It was probably giant add for the games and probably hasn't stood the test of time, but by god did I love it then.

Posted by: Rach at November 28, 2006 12:44 AM

How about The Grim Adventures of Billy And Mandy...I love that show!

Also Rocko's Modern Life and AHH Real Monsters...pesonally that was my golden age of nickelodean...the decent started around the Angry Beavers/catdog era.

Agree with Futurama and Daria whole heartedly...didn't watch them when originally aired regularly...silly primary schhool/early highschool me!

Posted by: Timperament at November 28, 2006 12:48 AM

Gargoyles was very good, but you missed a few personal favourites...

- Galaxy Rangers (not seen it for a while, does it hold up?)
- Animanics (particularly Pinky and the Brain)
- The early Dexter's Lab

Posted by: missed a few favourites at November 28, 2006 1:49 AM

Dexter's Lab had some really great episodes, there was also something perversely funny about that Cow and Chicken show that was running around the same time. And the horror elements of Courage the Cowardly Dog. None of them were terrbly ground-breaking, but they had some absolutely hilarious/interesting moments.

I liked Teen Titans and X-men Evolution, but I always felt mildly disappointed when watching. They never captured the right sense of depth that Batman, Spiderman and X-men had. There are some much better shows being mentioned.

Posted by: Rummy at November 28, 2006 2:37 AM

Too much crap on your list, Phillip. And you totally left out Pinky & The Brain and Samurai Jack.

And though it's been said numerous times above, I too don't see Futurama as geared towards a younger audience than The Simpsons. Hell, I've been watching The Simpsons since I was 7.

Posted by: Hakobus at November 28, 2006 2:41 AM

Andy I totally agree with you about Invader Zim!!
GREAT show with sooo many usable quotes...despite the strange looks you get when using them...
Dib: "Sorry I'm late Ms. Bitters, horrible...nightmare...visions..."
Ms Bitters: "It's called life, Dib. Now sit down."
...and... Zim: "Be gone with you! I've had enough of your nonsense from your smelly mouth filled with...um... corn!"
Dib: "But I haven't been eating corn."
Zim: "LIAR!!"
Also, I admit that I don't mind some quality anime myself... and I know that the show doesn't qualify but I must admit that the best anime EVER is Neon Genesis Evangelion...despite the infuriating ending.

Posted by: I'M GONNA SING THE DOOM SONG!! at November 28, 2006 2:52 AM

People, Sponge Bob Square Pants is awesome!!! I babysit a lot, and two of the families I sit for have the series on DVD and at first the kids used to beg me to watch it with them, and now I suggest it! It is so funny in its absolute simplicity. Love it.

Also, I have this memory of watching a sailor moon episode as a kid that was about peadophilia. I swear it happened, and it wasn't just a figment of my 7-year-old imagination: a teacher fell in love with a student or vice versa and I remember being totally grossed out at the time. That show had some pretty heavy storylines for kids! I also remember one where someone had anorexia (although the word itself wasn't used) and sailor moon had to help her.

Does anyone know two cartoons called 'Super Ted' and 'Raggy Dolls'? They were little five minute shows that used to be on before Sesame Street or Playschool or something (meaning they were directed at 3 - 7 year olds) and they were so awesome at the time, and when I see reruns now, I love them even more. I love the raggy dolls theme song: "Raggy dolls, raggy dolls, dolls like you and me...!" I still find myself singing it to myself occasionally. Aaaahhh....

Posted by: Jess at November 28, 2006 7:36 AM

Loved Daria and grew up on X Men.
Maybe it's a British thing but why no mention of Dangermouse or Count Duckula? Or the triptastic Mr Ben?
Plus as rubbish as they probably would seem to watch them now I have to mention Sharkey & George and Loch Ness!!

Posted by: Eleanor at November 28, 2006 8:28 AM

The crappy dubbed version of Sailor Moon was what got me into anime when I was a kid (although now I only watch the subtitled stuff. -shudder- God, the dubs are bad.)

-HAH! I'm not the only person who remembers Camp Candy. C'mon. Rude Dog and the Dweebs. That shitty Rick Moranis cartoon. Come on, people.

-I have such Futurama love, it's scary. My roommate and I gibbered like idiots when we heard about the movies they're releasing.

-And, the Disney group. Darkwing Duck, Duck Tales (Which I occasionally have the theme song stuck in my head), Tale Spin (Stupid catchy theme songs), Gummi Bears, Rescue Rangers (DAMN THEME SONGS)

And if we're going for mainstream anime, I'd have to toss Cowboy Bebop out there. Other than the ending (Seriously. What the -fuck-.), it was excellent. That, and Trigun. Just stay the hell away from Cardcaptors. That shit needs to stop.

Posted by: Mara at November 28, 2006 8:40 AM

I rediscovered the delights of cartoons as an adult (the need to get back in touch with my Inner Child, y'know), having been raised on the cheerful mayhem of the early Warner Bros. 'toons.

I know this might cause some agita, but "Power Puff Girls" would, at times, have me in stitches. Some of the puns and adult references (Miss 'Sara Bellum' who lives at #69 Yodelinda Valley? Come on!) reminded me of the same self-parody one finds in a good MST3K episode.

"Rocko's Modern Life" - 'nuff said, the series was surreal and hamster-crushingly funny.

I have to agree with other commenters on "Samurai Jack" - great premise, fantastic animation.

"Sam and Max" - 'nuff said.

"Batman-TAS" - excellent all-around cartoon, very well done, the artwork (done on black construction paper, I recall) brooding and very film noir, and I have to agree that Mark Hamill makes the best Joker ever.

"Futurama" - Definitely!

"Animaniacs" - interesting animation, adult references that sailed over kids heads and smacked parents in the face. Great stuff!

Posted by: The Wanderer at November 28, 2006 9:01 AM

Props to you for mentioning "Daria" and "Gargoyles", but where in the hell is "Ren & Stimpy"?

Posted by: Sarah at November 28, 2006 9:23 AM

Nominee for "Best. Topic. Ever"?


I hereby submit it.


"Invader Zim" while funny at times suffered from the interference of Nickelodeon's censors who completely gutted the darker aspects of the show. The creator, Jhonen Vasquez ( a brilliant comic artist ) tried valiantly to save it but finally walked away from it.


He has a comic called "Johnny, The Homicidal Maniac" and if you like "Dexter" (the Showtime series), you should STRONGLT encourage Showtime to make an animated series from THAT fine piece of work! Talk about scary...

Posted by: Spender at November 28, 2006 9:23 AM

no love for the Ren and Stimpy Show?

Posted by: Chris at November 28, 2006 9:34 AM

Although I'll probably get flamed for answering only the anime posts, here goes...

Bebop ended exactly as it should have, just like Samurai Champloo. They were both in keeping with the story lines and the characters. I haven't seen NGE, but I've read the manga - it's pretty good.

Of course, my all-time fave is Witch Hunter Robin. Talk about complex moral and ethical dilemmas - the good guys are often bad, and the bad guys are, well not good, but certainly a product of forces beyond their control. And talk about a suck-ass ending! I still love it, though.

Posted by: pinkcheese at November 28, 2006 10:07 AM

Adam Michel--love the Animaniacs mention!! I watched it every day...and I swear I still know all the lyrics to every. damn. song those guys ever sang. "Lake Titicaca", anyone?


I loved Batman too...and didn't know it was Mark Hammill doing the Joker voice.

Does anyone remember watching (and I may get this name wrong) Secret Squirrel? He had this sidekick (I think he was a mole) named Morocco? I loved that show.

Posted by: em at November 28, 2006 10:18 AM

aratweth and Blargle:
yay Captain Planet love!!!! I loved all the different ethnicities/badly accented characters, and seriously, how can you not love a show about saving the environment? And the rings fucking rocked...I loved how the one chick said "Vind"!
"Captain Planet, he's our hero, going to take polution back to zero" (or something)

Also, one cartoon that no one has mentioned so maybe I'm the only one who absolutely loved it, (and the theme song is permanently in my head)...
MY PET MONSTER!
The one where the boy had a pet monster (original title, I know) that became a toy when it had handcuffs on...and the bad monsters came out of the black hole in the wall and tried to take him...

Anybody??

Posted by: KDM at November 28, 2006 11:00 AM

Dude, Freakazoid! I had the silly theme song stuck in my head the other day.


I laughed my head off at Freakazoid, Animaniacs, and the Tick when I was in grad school, but I still have the fondest place in my heart for the shows I watched as a kid.


Robotech was a great children's cartoon. The story addressed love, loyalty, death, jealousy, careers, substance abuse, genetic engineering, war... and what exactly it meant to be human, rather than alien. All along, the writers still managed to put all these themes into terms that elementary-school kids could understand. Gotta remember Robotech. Of course, those sappy Minmei songs made me want to block my ears with Loctite ;-)


Duck Tales was sweet and very funny. My mom and I watched it together. I'm glad people remember it. Dungeons and Dragons was pretty cool as I recall.

Does anyone remember a show called "The Secret of Isis"? I have vague memories from early childhood, but not much else. I have never seen a trace of it since. Wonder if it was actually any good. Sounds like an interesting concept for a kid's cartoon, in any case. Ancient goddess returns to earth to fight evil? Right on.

Posted by: Amy at November 28, 2006 11:18 AM

Robotech is great, damn expensive, but great.

Jess, Sailor Moon also had lesbians in the later part of the series, or cousins in America. I think it was Neptune & Uranus? My sister loved that show (still has tapes she made from Cartoon Network) and that storyline does sound familiar.

em, Secret Squirrel was on the show 2 Stupid Dogs, which in itself was hilarious. It was on TBS in the early 90s... you may remember the hick-ish guy saying "Ain't that cute... BUT ITS WRONG!" And yeah his sidekick was Morocco Mole.

KDM, I don't remember the show but a friend has one of the toys.

Posted by: The Stew at November 28, 2006 11:40 AM

For em:

"Lake Titicaca, oh Lake Titicaca
It's between Bolivia and Peru
Lake Titicaca, oh Lake Titicaca
With waters so tranquil and blue
Lake Titicaca, oh Lake Titicaca
Why do we sing of it's fame?
Lake Titicaca, oh Lake Titicaca
'Cause we really like saying its name!
Titicaca!!"

I had that stuck in my head for 4 weeks during a course on Early Mezo-American Art.

Posted by: pinkcheese at November 28, 2006 12:06 PM

Dude my vote is in for "Best.Topic.Ever" I'm such a nerd and I have nothing new to add because everything has been mentioned. I loved all those shows! I honestly thought I was the only one who remembered some of these show and it feels good knowing I'm not alone in my nerdom. Or watching wayyy too much TV when I was a kid.

Posted by: S at November 28, 2006 12:08 PM

YAY!!!! Hahahaha, pinkcheese, thanks for the laugh this morning! I'm so glad you understand how badly that song sticks in your head...for weeks I could not stop snging it...or stop seeing the cartoon in my head either!

Also, The Stew, thanks for the info on Secret Squirrel...and I do remember that hick-ish guy! Just for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKLvQglqbbs

Posted by: em at November 28, 2006 12:30 PM

...and just so everyone else can get it stuck in their head (for you, pinkcheese!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFzZHzj9yE4

Posted by: em at November 28, 2006 12:32 PM

em, that's awesome - thanks!!

Posted by: pinkcheese at November 28, 2006 1:51 PM

Thanks, pinkcheese and em! The Lake Titicaca song is a classic, and I am proud to admit that I taught that song to my kids. I am infinitely amused at the prospect of them singing that on the school playground, as I'm fairly certain that no disciplinary action can be taken against them. Knowing how to provoke authority figures without actually breaking any rules is an essential life skill for younguns to learn.

And some of the Powerpuff Girls episodes are obscenely funny, particularly the detailed homage to the Beatles. That one is a gem of Postmodern brilliance.

Posted by: Mustang Sally at November 28, 2006 2:57 PM

God help me, I can't stop!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8bnH6l5ArQ

You're welcome pinkcheese and Mustang Sally! I'm too slaphappy to do any work today...hahaha :)

Posted by: em at November 28, 2006 3:26 PM

Someone mentioned there's only boy-centric cartoons mentioned in the original post. To you I submit Jem and the Holograms. I know the theme song by heart and own the DVD collection. Does it stand the test of time? Yes, because it was cheesy crap in the 80's. The Kimber Runs Aways Because She Feels Irrelevant episode is still my favorite! Truly outrageous!

Posted by: Kitty X at November 28, 2006 4:01 PM

"The crappy dubbed version of Sailor Moon was what got me into anime when I was a kid (although now I only watch the subtitled stuff. -shudder- God, the dubs are bad.)"

Not to mention often edited. Have you seen the Japanese versions of Battle of the Planets/G-Force, Mara? It was eye-opening after years of watching the Americanized/bowdlerized versions.

Posted by: ranylt at November 28, 2006 4:29 PM

My daughter loves to sing the Animaniacs songs, the the Popwerpuff "Meet the Beat-Alls" episode was sheer brilliance. I bought the DVD for that ep alone. I would also submit the Boogeyman ep. that begins as a riff on all the beloved Saturday Night Fever stereotypes, and winds up as a brilliant send up of Star Wars.

Posted by: pinkcheese at November 28, 2006 5:17 PM

From your list, I only liked Batman and Futurama. I LOATHED Dungeons and Dragons from the moment it came out and will hate it until the end of time. I was a teenage D&D nerd at the time, and the show was anathema to me.

Like many others, I am completely shocked by the absence of Animaniacs and Tiny Toons. Until I saw these two shows, I had thought good cartoons all died in the mid- 60's. Slappy Squirrel (from Animaniacs) still puts me in hysterics, and so do Pinky and the Brain. My wife and I still laugh about the P&B episode sending up "Around the World in 80 Days".

Several people have mentioned Invader Zim, which I loved from the first mad moments of the opening episode. I share the majority's fond memories of The Tick as well. I see that someone already mentioned The Grimm Adventures of Billy and Mandy and Samurai Jack- both outstanding shows.

I didn't see any mention of Powerpuff Girls- another of my recent favorites- or Courage the Cowardly Dog, which is another great cartoon. Here's another that no one seems to have mentioned: Bonkers.

The only anime I care to watch is Cowboy Bebop (already mentioned) and the movie, Akira- neither of which are cartoons for children.

For me, however, the best and brightest will always be the classic Warner brother cartoons of the 50's- especially Bugs, Daffy, RoadRunner, et al.

"Okayloveyoubyebye"

Posted by: Wenchmaster at November 28, 2006 5:53 PM

mike.grl - I'm so glad you mentioned Fillmore - that show rules.

Futurama is designed both for kids and adults - my innocent twelve year old brother finds it funny.

Posted by: JC at November 28, 2006 6:42 PM

Thanks people for bringing up ones I'd forgotten.
I too think Darkwing Duck, Duck Tails, and Ren and Stimpy (although, I feel this one was always more "adult") rock. I must add George of the Jungle to the list. Tom and Jerry, Mighty Mouse, Casper the Friendly Ghost, Woody Woodpecker are cool. Does anyone else remember Heathcliff? Inspector Gadget? Also, does anyone recall the kick-ass BUCKY O'HARE? I realize my lists aren't sticking to any particular decade, but an ass-kicking animated program remains an ass-kicking animated program.

Posted by: Isolated Childhood at November 28, 2006 7:15 PM

Kenshin over something like say, Cowboy Bebop or Evangelion? Come on.

You cheated on that X-Men picture, that's totally not from that series.

Posted by: Tim at November 28, 2006 8:33 PM

"Not to mention often edited. Have you seen the Japanese versions of Battle of the Planets/G-Force, Mara? It was eye-opening after years of watching the Americanized/bowdlerized versions."

Hence my mention of Cardcaptors. (Where they Americanize her entire family - Tori?! - and keep the name Sakura.) (Sa-koo-rah) I went back a couple years ago and watched some of the subtitled stuff, and loved it. I haven't seen Battle of the Planets, though. I've seen enough dubbed anime to guess.

Posted by: Mara at November 28, 2006 8:39 PM

After reading some of the comments, I decided to skip to the end. I'm sorry for bypassing everyone's opinion that I didn't read and for reiterating those aforementioned opinions if I do.

I must agree with everyone that says that Futurama was meant for a purely adult demographic, maybe even a Trekkie demographic? I grew up watching every single episode of the original Star Trek series and all the episodes of the The Next Generation, and my dad dragged me to every one of the Star Trek movies. Now, I obviously don't admit this to most people because they would turn and run away from me, but if you grew up watching Star Trek, then you have a greater appreciation for all of the humor that Futurama posesses. I mean one of the episodes of Futurama titled "Where No Man Has Gone Before" is essentially Matt Groening's love letter to Star Trek. Furthermore, in one Futurama episode, the battle music from Star Trek is integrated as the national anthem for Zoidberg's planet (I seriously almost died laughing when I heard it, and yes, I know that I know too much about Futurama, and yes, I try to hide this as well). Additionally, most of the show's premise is much more adult orientated than some kiddie carton (does anyone remember the one episode where the evil overlord aliens want to use Fry's penis as an aphrodisiac? Clearly, a topic that I think The Simpsons did not even touch.) Also, the sheer fact that Futurama now airs during Adult Swim should give someone a faint clue that this show was never intended for people who could not stay up until midnight (my little sister is seven, and I let her watch some Simpsons's episodes but never a Futurama one just for the fact that the subject matter is too adultish). In any case, this is only one person's opinion, and for the sheer fact that someone has at least recognized the show's brilliance on some sort of list, even if this list is geard for cartoons aged at the tween of elementary school demographic, is something about which to be joyous. I truly do heart Futurama, and I am glad that there people here that do!

Like many others, I am amazed that The Animaniacs and Tiny Toons were not on this list. But, I really think Pinky and The Brain should have been on this list as well (it started airing with The Animaniacs, but then got its own show). As an adult who watched some of the shows as a kid, it's much more hilarious now than when I was kid since almost all of the jokes are in reference to things that I did not know as an elementary kid.

One final thing...seriously, no love for Ren and Stimpy? Too declasse (there should be an accent over that first "e")?

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at November 28, 2006 11:57 PM

This post is awesome! I love how people mentioned Samurai Jack and Invader Zim, but a new cartoon that's on the cartoon network?

Foster's home for imaginary friends

I still try to make time for this show when it's on!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=j6hG7L9NKPA

Posted by: Nancy at November 28, 2006 11:58 PM

I am utterly ashamed of myself for forgetting to mention "Invader Zim" and "Courage the Cowardly Dog". The former is a great show that should be picked up by adult swim to do it justice and the latter is a weird, campy show that gives off a cool creepy vibe and has a great animation style. Very glad these were mentioned.

Posted by: smatt584 at November 29, 2006 12:10 AM

I can NOT believe nobody's mentioned one of the greatest long-running, can't-miss-a-single-episode animated series EVER:
The Mysterious Cities Of Gold!
Come ON, people! Flying golden condor? Lost ancient civilizations? Memorable characters? Awesome story arcs?

Posted by: Ed at November 29, 2006 12:36 AM

Rurouni Kenshin?
Finally, validation. No hemming, or hawing. I knew that it was better than its compatriots.
But then, the anime world is known for two things: improbable bodies, and convoluted plots.

Posted by: Rachel at November 29, 2006 1:47 AM

Ok. I am vastly overjoyed SOMEONE out there other than me still feels Gargoyles was a fine show. Same for Daria.

But cmon, you forgot FREAKAZOID. Really, man. WHY? Why was this not mentioned? What possible justification can you offer?! Go amend your list.
*shoos*

And I also have to speak up for The Tick.
I still watch both of these, and with pride!

Posted by: the hel at November 29, 2006 2:55 AM

Hello! Justice Leage/Justice League Unlimited anyone?

DC>Marvel.

Posted by: Natalie at November 29, 2006 3:49 AM

Megas XLR should have definetly been on the list. Along with the Tick. I definetly still watch both of those whenever I get the chance. Megas should be on the list just for the Bruce Campbell cameos alone!!

Posted by: Patrick at November 29, 2006 9:08 AM

I must say I'm disapointed you failed to mention that Dungeons and Dragons stars the vocal talents of Willie Ames - reason enough to buy the DVDs later this year

Posted by: Brian at November 29, 2006 9:14 AM

One Word:
Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
Two Words:
The most awesomest show on the face of Earth.

Seriously, if you don't like it, well then, you're not human.

Posted by: Emily at November 29, 2006 9:40 AM

I have to put another vote in for Kim Possible. She's like Sydney Bristow with a sense of humor. And Gargoyles made me realize that I could have a crush on objects made out of stone that sometimes came alive. I am still in therapy over that but it was totally worth it.

Posted by: amberlynne at November 29, 2006 10:19 AM

Ed - Cities of Gold - how could I have forgotten that?!?!?! Yet another old fav. that surprisingly helped during that 3 months of Early Mezo-American Art!

Posted by: pinkcheese at November 29, 2006 11:04 AM

EXOSAQUAD

Posted by: Chris at November 29, 2006 12:52 PM

How about "Fooly Cooly?" Anime that's not afraid to make fun of itself.

Posted by: The Wanderer at November 29, 2006 1:12 PM

FLCL rocks! (pun intended) :-)

Posted by: pinkcheese at November 29, 2006 2:20 PM

I comment on Daria DO NOT under any circumstance watch the neutered versin that nick is running in their Nogin network it has been butchered to pointlessness (i just can't imagine why if only because I've seen Degrassi Next Gen and it's almost teen-softcore-porn).

Also, I would add Invader Zim to the list, twisted dark and funny, difficult to explain, you just have to see it.

Posted by: BarbaboSlim at November 29, 2006 3:24 PM

Oh, and before I forget, Earhtworm Jim was one of the best of its time as well.

Posted by: BarbaboSlim at November 29, 2006 3:27 PM

God! I'd completely forgotten about "captain planet" until I read the comments about it.... how fabulous! The theme song still occasionally pops into my head...

Seriously though... It's pathetic how much nostalgia I feel for some/most of these shows... Especially considering that it wasn't *that* long ago that I watched them...


And just to add something to the mix..... A show that stil haunts me (in a bad way) would probably be "Pinky and the brain"..... Just the opening monologue... I mean, pure classic... ("So Brain, what are going to do tonight?" - "Same thing we do every night Pinky.... Try and TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!")......

Posted by: Nina at November 29, 2006 6:01 PM

Not so much a cartoon series, but did anyone else watch the movie "The Last Unicorn" when they were little? The red bull always scared the crap out of me. I rediscovered it recently and it still gave me chills. Such a great movie!

I agree with most contributions, but must also must add some chick cartoons:-
*Rainbow Brite
*My Little Pony
*Lady Lovely Locks

Posted by: Shmecky at November 29, 2006 7:39 PM

I actually started singing the Earthworm Jim theme song for no reason the other day. Man, that show was awesome.

The Red Bull scared the crap outta me too, Shmecky. You're not alone. I watched it recently and it was kind of shocking how much stuff flew over my four-year-old head.

Posted by: Mara at November 29, 2006 7:47 PM

Cities of gold!?

You guys actually had that too? I wasn't sure this was distributed in other languages than french since it's a France-Japan co-production, until I did some research yesterday but couldn't find the english title anywhere. This series has a wide and deserved cult status here in Quebec!


As a fan of Earthworm Jim I was frustrated not to be able to catch the series and built so much expectations I was a little bit disapointed when I finally did. EWJ fans check out Doug Tennapel's other creations like the Iron West comic. And The Neverhood video game. Better direction IMO.

Posted by: Sunsneezer at November 29, 2006 9:39 PM

D&D is not an "iconic board game." I believe the original advertising campaign for the game stressed the fact that you DIDN'T need a board to play. Also, I just farted.

Posted by: Peter at November 29, 2006 10:59 PM

I love some of your choices a lot and I'm so glad to see someone else love them. I was wondering why Justice League didn't make it though, it's certainly up there with the rest although only after the first season or so if I remember right when it changed.

Posted by: Mishi at November 30, 2006 5:35 AM

ReBoot! Haha! You said "Pirates of Dark Water" and officially made my Thursday into a happy day.

P.S. Daria is not a "cartoon." Daria is an animated cultural icon, but we're thinking of changing the name.

Posted by: that bees chick at November 30, 2006 12:45 PM

P.P.S. Yes to, Doug, Samurai Jack (my favorite cartoon - the third season ep when Jack crashes an evil rave to stop that candy-kid army while wearing a cat-in-the-hat hat and sucking a pacifier was the sex) and Animaniacs "...the same thing we do every night, Pinky- Try To Take Over The World!!!")

But I have to add something. Fairly Odd Parents is beautiful ("Stinks on Ice" is a new catch-phrase of mine) but there was a cartoon on for a minute called Recess, and it was so blatant about it's agenda of pushing kids to inquire about their government that it led to spirited saturday afternoon debates with my eight year old sister, using the newspaper as a reference. You can't beat that with a stick, my friends.

Posted by: that bees chick at November 30, 2006 1:03 PM

I'm glad that someone else remembers the seven cities of gold. There was a long time when I thought I was the only one who remembered that. (now if I can only remember the name of the futuristic show that had a scientist and two children, one boy, one girl, and one of them was an adopted alien . . .)

Anyway, it hasn't been officially said, but Fox's Peter Pan and the Pirates is still one of my favorite tv shows ever. Tim Curry as Captain Hook, and a plot line that stuck to the original "ick" factor of the book.

This is for Ruby, although I don't think it'll be read, but the Song That Never Ends was from Lamb Chop, not Animaniacs. . .

Posted by: Rowen at November 30, 2006 6:50 PM

I'm going to have to cast another vote for Animaniacs. The fact that they did an episode based on "Heart of Darkness" staring Jerry Lewis is such an unbelievable combo it still floors me.

I also enjoyed MTV's Clone High. Ghandi reimagined as the class clown? Awesome.

Posted by: Laaw-yuhr at November 30, 2006 8:52 PM

Rowen, I think I remember the Animaniacs spoofing the song that never ends at one point.

I adore Tim Curry in a truly pathetic way (I have Legend on DVD), and he was a brilliant Captain Hook.

Posted by: pinkcheese at December 1, 2006 9:55 AM

Ok, what about Janna of the Jungle, original Johnny Quest, Jabber Jaws, the original Scooby Doo and Tom and Jerry. Thundercats and He Man were a bit later for me, then the Hulk Hogan show and The Snorks (another version of the Smurfs). I still want to get a cat just to name it Azreal.

Posted by: Helcat at December 1, 2006 1:25 PM

Tranzor-Z
Thundar the Barbarian
Dungeon and Dragons
Danger Mouse
The Tick
70's Spider-Man just for the theme song
90's X-Men same as above
Transformers
All old school WB shorts
The Maxx

Posted by: New Millennium Craka at December 1, 2006 2:51 PM

If you can appreciate the things listed above I suggest you also check out some Japanese Animation(anime). If you get past the utter crap like DBZ, Bleach, Naruto and the such you can find some damn good programs out there that can give shows like Lost and Buffy a run for their money.

I loved cartoons like D&D, Thundercats, Transformers and the like but now as a grown up I can appreciate anime even more.

I think the peopel that hate it watch things like DBZ or Sailormoon and hting generally all anime is like that. Well your wrong, dead wrong. Like western cartoons there is good and there is bad anime out there. Give series like RahXephon, Fullmetal ALchemist, Ghost in the Shell, Noir, the .hack series, Haibane Renmei and Azumanga Daioh. All besides Daioh are dramatic/action type anime series and all of them have a great quality that America really hasn't been able to achieve. Daioh is hilarious, I don't know anyone who I have made watch it that hasn't laughed the entire time it was on screen.

And may I add only buy subtitled anime. Dubbed anime...is usually butchered :-/

Posted by: Angelmonster at December 1, 2006 5:35 PM

I still know all the U.S. presidents in order, as well as the U.S. state capitals and the nations of the world (though they left a few out) thanks to Animaniacs. There was enough goofy stuff to keep me entertained as a child, and it was hilarious in spite of my not getting the various references in their parodies. And while catching reruns here and there en route to adulthood, I was amazed by how rich and layered Animaniacs actually is. Talk about clever.

Same for Tiny Toons, and I must add this, "Elelator go down the hoooole."

I also second (third? eleventh?) the noms for Fairly Odd Parents, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, and Avatar. There is quite a dearth of good, well-written cartoons these days, but those three are very bright spots among the dreck.

Posted by: Toklas at December 1, 2006 5:46 PM

Is it really true that Daria is still not out on DVD? Really? What a crime.

Posted by: stacy at December 2, 2006 10:39 PM

No mention of "Courage the Cowardly Dog?" I know someone else here must like flan?

Posted by: Pacman Redux at December 3, 2006 1:59 PM

Yes!! "Gargoyles" forever!

BTW, season 1 and the first half of season 2 is out on DVD.

Posted by: Angel H. at December 3, 2006 4:37 PM

P.S. Greg Weisman (Gargoyles) also worked on Batman: TAS.

Posted by: Angel H. at December 3, 2006 4:46 PM

I third (or fourth? or is it quadruple? whatever!) the motion to call this the.coolest.topic.ever.
And I just have to say--all the cartoons on your list, except the D&D cartoon (which we didn't have), are really the cartoons I remember and miss the most. Thank god they're still rerunning (occasionally) the early '90s art deco Batman here in the Philippines!
And thanks for mentioning Daria, who was the role model of all pubertal smart girls my age back in the early '90s.

Posted by: pj at December 4, 2006 2:20 AM

Now, now Angelmonster, Bleach is awesome. Granted I was a huge fan of the manga before the anime came over, so I may be a bit biased, but I think it's lots of fun. I'd agree with you on DBZ or Naruto, though. I'll once more add a shameless plug for Witch Hunter Robin, and suggest adding it to your list.

And, personally, I think dubs can be just as good, if not better than the original, but that's the great thing about watching these on DVD - you can listen to both, and make your own decisions.

Posted by: pinkcheese at December 4, 2006 12:54 PM

Gargoyles and Batman are two of my faves.

Props to BOBBY'S WORLD!, The Tick!, DuckTales!, Count Duckula!, Darkwing Duck, Animaniacs, Tiny Toons, Spongebob (watch the Sailor Mouth ep.), Rainbow Brite, Invader Zim (has its eps.), Sailor Moon (also started my anime obsession, as embarrassed as I am of that it's still a great cartoon.) Thanks to reruns/netflix/ebay I've seen all of these (save recent creations) in childhood and beyond, they are still great toons!

I know Lamb Chops wasn't a cartoon, but I saw it mentioned above and must say when I came across the talking puppet toy at Cracker Barrel I was overjoyed.

And you've got another SuperTed fan here! I have an old and dying VHS of the shorts, it gets played on sick days.

Thank God for DVD technology. Hopefully the suits will wisen up and realize they can press our childhood favorites at practically no cost and sell our sweet, sweet memories back to us for some dirty profits. Because who won't pay for nostalgia?

Love it as I do, also puzzled by Futurama making the list.

Posted by: Steph at December 5, 2006 11:13 AM

I am shocked and appalled that no one has mentioned MARSUPILAMI yet! That show was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

Posted by: Em at December 7, 2006 7:33 PM

I'm suprised no one has made a bid for Denver the Last Dinosaur . . . I used to love that show. Of course, I was 10, and a show about a guitar playing, mohawked dinosaur might not hold water to my adult sensabilities. . .

Posted by: Rowen at December 10, 2006 11:34 AM

"(now if I can only remember the name of the futuristic show that had a scientist and two children, one boy, one girl, and one of them was an adopted alien . . .)"

Ulysses 31, by any chance?

Posted by: Ray at December 10, 2006 8:04 PM

OMG!!!!!! and here I was beginning to think I was crazy!!!!!

Posted by: Rowen at December 11, 2006 12:11 PM

WATCH METALOCALYPSE ON ADULT SWIM.

Posted by: sar at December 12, 2006 3:01 AM

Posted by: Elaine at December 15, 2006 3:44 PM

You're missing so many of my favorites, you must be younger than me or something...what about Transformers or Gobots or Heathcliff or Gummi Bears (need I go on)? There are tons of good ones on Cartoon Network that are not part of Adult Swim (I can't seem to recall, haven't watch them in so long). Also, Spongebob Squarepants reaches epic proportions of hilarity that appeals not only to kids, but to adults as well if you watch it closely enough. There's enough sarcasm in that show to drown a squirrel...hahahaha! And I must agree that Batman cartoon was totally awesome!

Posted by: ga at December 17, 2006 5:03 PM

Daria Rocks! I miss it so much!

Posted by: ga at December 17, 2006 5:04 PM

Oh man Dangermouse AND Count Duckula were also hilarious! They used to come on Nickelodeon all the time in the late 80s, remember guys?!

Posted by: ga at December 17, 2006 5:05 PM

Ren & Stimpy too! Oh man...why are cartoons so dumbed down now?! When will the media stop thinking that kids are stupid and give them what they gave us in the 80s and 90s? I fail to understand all the Pokemon anime crap that is supposed to be geared towards 3-5 year olds in Japan but spoon fed to kids 7-12 in the U.S....go figure!

Posted by: ga at December 17, 2006 5:07 PM

"Man I can totally remeber waking up at the ass-crack of dawn to watch my cartoons. Now the ass-crack of dawn for me is about 12."

I LOL'ed at that...so true!!!

anyways...I second "Rocko's"!!! wtf mate? That show is amazing. I nod to Anamaniacs as well. I can totally sit through either of those shows at this minute being 21 or 12.

A newer noteworthy mention: Invader Zim! as "scene" as it may be now, I watched it before it was accepted for its weirdness...and Jhonen Vasquez's ingenius (yet very adult) in his "Johnny The Homicidal Maniac" comics really shine through in Zim.

HIIIII COWWWWWW!!!!

Posted by: Amber at December 18, 2006 1:25 AM

I loved that this post is out there - so many great shows. Ghod, if I had the money I'd be at the store right now buying a ton of DVDs.
Futurama is still my favorite show to watch - animated or not! And Samurai Jack? That show is great!

I have to agree with Angelmonster here, DBZ is utter crap. I think I once watched four episodes in a row, one day when I was home sick and couldn't move off the couch, and from the start of the first episode to the end of the fourth the action only advanced maybe ten minutes. Completely terrible. All the cold medicine and vapo-rub fumes in the world couldn't make that shite watchable.

But Kudos to the Kenshin mention - that was the show that introduced me to good anime, and it does belong on this list, since its got themes both for adults and kids.

One last parting bit - as soon as I saw the Inspector Gadget mention I completely agreed ... then I thought about it. Yeah, this show was great the first time around, but I'm not entirely sure it would stand up for a second round, or translate as interesting to an adult viewing. That said, it was hilarious the first time around.


Why isn't Daria on DVD?!?!?!?!?!!

Posted by: pstrega at January 15, 2007 2:13 PM

Used to love watching the old Batman and X-Men when I was a little kid. These days I like the newer shows less ("The" Batman? What the hell does that mean? And why does the Joker look like the Hunchback of Notre Dame?), since it nearly taints my memories of my childhood; my older sister refused to watch X-Men Evolution on Cartoon Network just because Gambit didn't have a Cajun accent anymore.

Posted by: Mr. F at January 15, 2007 3:00 PM

oooh, i'm glad someone in the comments mentioned Freakazoid.

Plus, you can get Daria on dvd, if you don't mind a good bootleg. (8 discs, including all the movies, AND the special animated shorts from the marathon.)

Posted by: voudougrrl at January 18, 2007 2:36 PM

All I remember is my mom tripping over the interracial relationship going on between Roy and Claudia.

Posted by: jmellow at January 27, 2007 9:25 AM

I agree!! I need Daria on dvd!!! I have been waiting for years!

Great list, guys! My personal faves are:
Home Movies, Dr Katz, Daria, Futurama, Samurai Jack, The Tick, Sealab 2021.
And I love Angela Anaconda, which I think qualifies. :D

Posted by: Loob at February 14, 2007 10:46 PM

Duckman!!

And, Yeah!! To the person who mentioned "The Critic"! :)

Posted by: Loob at February 14, 2007 10:59 PM

I was fairly disappointed in this list. Without looking through the article again, I think you only had one pre-'90 show? I recall when many of the others started coming on. Such as the Batman series, and Gargoyles. I have to say, I loathed them. Granted I was a pre-teen/teen for their runs, but I remember thinking of them as some sort of pseudo-adult fantasy drivel. I firmly believe the creators were making them to fulfill their own bizarre fantasies, and yet their ideas would be ridiculed in the 'adult community' as fairly ridiculous. So they packaged them up for young audiences who are, in general, far less discriminating. These shows took themselves -far- too seriously (Gargoyles more than Batman, which did have a great deal of dark humour if I recall?)

Another point I'd like to make-- In Japan, anime is as much an adult form of entertainemnet as a child's. Rurouni Kenshin doesn't belong on this list because it, I believe, was made with adult audinces in mind. Also, by the way, Kenshin is not a samurai. I know I am coming across as insufferably pretentious in saying so, but it is not so vague a distinction in Japan, where Samurai is/was a social class, not just some guy with a sword (see any American summary of "The Sea is Watching" for a very good example of Americans being COMPLETELY ignorant of culture) Kenshin was a kenshi. (As for those people who absolutely refuse to watch Anime while expressing a hatred for it-- it's pure ignorance. Anime comes in as many varieties as there are kinds of live action movies and TV shows. It's like saying "I hate all movies and TV!")

Finally, Futurama also doesn't belong on this list, imo. While I hate to even compare it to the Simpsons (it is in every way superior to at least the last 11 seasons of that tired, TIRED show) it is in the same vein-- adult entertainment.

I feel like a terrible snob now, but really, I thought the list was terribly disappointing.

Posted by: Ari at March 6, 2007 6:21 PM

Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends.
Camp Lazlo.

Hilarious? Without a doubt.

Posted by: Salt&Pooper at March 13, 2007 5:34 PM

I love you Pajiba.

Posted by: David at April 9, 2007 10:34 PM

admittedly, i am too young to have watched most of the cartoons you wrote about, but i had much love for Daria, which was so underrated.
what about dragon ball z? i used to watch that when i was younger, and it appealed to me as much then as it does now...

Posted by: ruby at April 17, 2007 10:25 AM

I have to give a second to Tiny Toons, Anamaniacs, and Freakaziod. Truly the golden era of Warner Bros. Animation.

Posted by: ciji at April 18, 2007 2:08 PM



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