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Like most film critics, I spend a lot of my life inside of movie theaters. I usually see between two and three movies per week in a theater. But unlike most movie critics — who attend press screening and thus often have seats set aside for them, or watch the movie only in the company of only other critics — I attend screenings with real audiences.

And real audiences can be a pain in the fucking ass.

I’ve been at this for over five years now, in addition to my at least weekly visits to the theater for most of my adult life, so I’ve managed to come up with a few personal rules and some practical advice which has allowed me to get the most out of the theater-going experience. Inconsiderate assholes are unpredictable, so these theater-going rules aren’t foolproof. But more often than not, they’ve worked for me. And for those of you who seldom attend the theater due to your low levels of patience for other people, these guidelines may encourage you to return. The truth is, no matter how good a home theater systems you have in your living room, nothing can compete with the cinema experience. Filmmakers create their films with huge screens and 2.35:1 aspect ratios in mind. In many instances, too, those obnoxious crowds surrounding you actually enhance the movie-going experience. You can’t duplicate that in your den, and I don’t care what kind of subwoofers you have.

Screening Times

Matinees, you’d imagine, are the ideal choice. But it really depends on the kind of movie you’re attending. For comedies and most horror movies, a nice-sized audience really enhances the experience. Paul Blart: Mall Cop may not be funny, but if the rest of the audience is dumb and raucous enough, you can actually get some infectious laughter out of it. I remember seeing Lethal Weapon IV in a packed theater with an audience that must have had a serious case of the giggles — it wasn’t until I rewatched the movie, on DVD, that I realized how awful it was. A good crowd can alter your perception, often for the good.

Likewise, a bad crowd can screw you: dramatic horror movies should be seen with as few people as possible, so matinees or weekday evening screenings are ideal. One jackass scoffing or another laughing during an otherwise tense scene can completely take you out of the moment. Horror-comedies, however, really require a large audience, preferably of people who are vulnerable to jump scares. I remember seeing Drag Me to Hell in a sold out theater the first time, and it was one of the best theatergoing experiences I’ve ever had. I returned to see it again, this time with a nearly empty theater, and it wasn’t nearly the same without a tattooed man shrieking like a little girl (in this case, that was TK).

In fact, for both varieties of horror movies, midnight screenings are the best: only the die-hards show up for midnight screenings, so they usually know how to properly behave in the theater. Moreover, the late hour and your own sleepiness can often contribute to the experience: I saw 1408, for instance, in a sleep-deprived state, which did a lot to heighten the creepy experience. The same movie, however, wouldn’t have been as effective if an asshole was sitting next to me rustling his M&Ms package.

Also, I know it’s stereotypical to suggest that black audiences talk to the screen during movies, but even living in three of the whitest cities in America (Boston, Ithaca, Portland), almost exclusively black audiences do show up for so-called urban films, and I can’t think of a single instance where those very audiences weren’t talking, loudly, to the screen during most of the movie (or, in many cases, screaming and/or singing). Go with it. Urban movies are generally fairly awful, but the audience can make it much more enjoyable. It’s a fun, communal experience. I don’t recommend Tyler Perry movies, obviously, but if you can catch a Friday night screening on opening weekend, it’s both interesting and a unique experience, especially if you’re the only white person in attendance (as has been the case for me on several occasions). It’s the rare occasion where you can actually encourage people to talk during the movie — they are usually the best part of the movie.

I actually find that the first showing of any weekday works best if you don’t want to be bothered. I attend the first screening of an opening weekend release every single Friday of the year, and no matter how big the movie, there’s rarely more than five or six people there (this was even the case in Boston). I’ve had the theater all to myself on more occasions than I can count.

If it’s an adult-oriented film, like State of Play, I can’t encourage you enough to avoid Saturday and Sunday matinees. In my experience, screenings of more adult, mature movies are dominated during those times by much older people. And no offense to your grandmother, but the only thing more annoying than squealing teenage girls during a Twilight movie is a theater full of blue-hairs, who not only talk loudly during the entire film, but often have to have dialogue repeated or explained to them by whoever is sitting next to them.

In fact, if you do want an audience, the first evening screening (usually around 7 p.m.) is ideal — it’s mostly adults with babysitters at home and some older teenagers, who aren’t there in groups. They are generally respectful and quiet, when it’s called for.

However, 9 p.m. and 10 p.m. weekend screenings are the absolute worst: This is when most of the loud, obnoxious teenagers arrive. If it’s an R-rated movie, expect to be interrupted by teenagers under 17 sneaking in during the course of the movie, and asking their older friends to explain what’s happened so far. They talk during the movie; they get up often; cell phones go off frequently, and there’s a lot of texting. It’s the absolute worst time to see a movie, even if it is often the most convenient for working folks.

Attending with Friends

The very same movies that are better seen with audiences (comedies, horror comedies, and most action films) are also better viewed with large groups of friends. That’s fairly obvious.

However: Be very careful about who you bring to a movie. A friend, even a very close one, can ruin an entire movie-going experience. If you’re overly concerned about whether he or she is enjoying it, or if you feel — as the chooser of a particular movie — under some pressure for your companion to have a good time (and you spend half the movie checking her face for signs of approval), the entire experience can be dashed. Likewise, never attend a movie with a critic — professional, amateur, or otherwise. It is our job to critique — if you just want to enjoy the movie, even a very bad one, without hearing about all its flaws, either during the movie (via exaggerated sighs) or after the movie, don’t go with an overly critical person.

In fact, if you do go with someone, wait at least five minutes after the movie to discuss it. Let yourself fully digest the experience before it’s tainted by your friend or partner’s opinion. Movies are an individual experience, and each person is affected by a movie differently. If you thought the movie was terrible, don’t harsh the buzz of your friend, who might have otherwise enjoyed it, even if his or her enjoyment of the movie was inexplicable. It’s not cool — they paid $10 to see the movie, too, and just because they liked a shitty movie doesn’t mean they should be robbed of the enjoyment afterwards. Be considerate. If you feel the need to vent, come to Pajiba.

I know a lot of people are very much against attending movies alone — my wife would never do so, for instance. But in the end, most movies are best experienced by you alone. Your opinions aren’t filtered, tainted, or mocked. You are under no pressure for your companion to feel entertained. And you can allow the movie to manipulate you in the manner it was meant without fear of reproach. You may realize how awful a movie is the second you leave the theater, but in some cases, you can nevertheless give into it while you’re experiencing it. That’s less so if your friend is showing signs of disapproval every three minutes, or shaking his head and wondering aloud, “Can we go home now?”

Oh, and nothing is worse than seeing a movie for the first time with someone who has already seen it, because then they insist on showing ownership of the movie, which makes it difficult for you to claim your own ownership: “I love this next part,” is the single most obnoxious thing you can hear during a movie, except for when someone repeats the dialogue right along with the movie.

Seating Choice

People put way too much stock in seating choice. In most theaters, especially the newer ones with curved screens, the view is the same from nearly everywhere in the theater, except for the front four or five rows. You may think that the middle seat in the middle of the theater is the best seat in the house, but once the lights go down, you’re surrounded by a larger concentration of people (who may or may not be obnoxious) and, worse still, you’re trapped, unless you want to be the jackass who makes half a row of people get up whenever you need to go to the restroom.

My suggestion: Get there early-ish. Take a book. Find an aisle seat, preferably near the exit. That way, if you do need to get up to visit the restroom, you’re not interfering with anyone else. Moreover, there are fewer people around you to annoy you. If there is an aisle set to the side with only two or three seats per row, take one of those, on the aisle. Unless it’s a sold-out theater, there’s little chance anyone will sit next to you, because that’s kind of creepy. If you do find yourself sitting near a talker, a rustler, or a sigher: don’t just sit there, and don’t turn around to either shush a person or give him the stink-eye. It just makes the whole situation even more fraught with tension. The best thing you can do is simply get up and move. Sit somewhere else. And if you’ve chosen an aisle seat near the exit, chances are, there are other places to move. It’s much better than hushing someone. They will probably resent you; they may continue talking louder; they may whisper shit about you; or they may tell you to go to hell. If you get up and move, you’re accomplishing the same thing: you note your disapproval, but you don’t have to experience the tense moments afterward. If you get up and leave, chances are, the talkers will feel embarrassed by their actions, and without you there, they have no one to take their pride out on. It’s a win-win.

Concessions

First and foremost, if you have candy packages or other items that rustle, open them during the previews. Don’t fucking wait until the big moment to open your goddamn Reese’s peanut butter cups — someone will shoot you in the head for that. And I will applaud them. Also, if you buy nachos, eat them within the first 20 minutes. Don’t be crunching those goddamn chips when the 2nd act starts.

Those are pretty much the only rules on concessions, except this: if you go to an art theater, or an independent theater, don’t bring in any outside food whatsoever. Indulge in their shitty popcorn with Brewer’s Yeast and eat their shitty organic cookies. Buy the candy, too; it’s cheaper there than in chain theaters anyway. I say this because independent theaters survive on concessions. They get next to no percentage of the box-office revenue, and the revenue for an indie film is already crappy. They’re making 90 percent of their profits on those homemade brownies.

With chain theaters: compromise. Bring in your own candy (or sandwiches), but at least buy an overpriced beverage. Even chain theaters make most of their money in concessions, and the old ladies and teenagers trying to save up to buy a used car depend on you for their wages. I know it’s easy to bitch about the price of popcorn — they’re making $4.95 profit on a $5 bag — but remember, that’s nearly the only money they are going to receive. This is especially so if you attend a discount theater. Discount theaters are the best: You can see District 9 or (500) Days of Summer in the theater for less money than it costs to rent the DVD when it comes out two weeks later. Don’t abuse that — most of us would kill for a discount theater, but we don’t get them, because too many jackasses decided to bring their own candy or sneak in their own bottled water when they went to see The Dark Knight for $2. Don’t be a cheap asshole. You’re very lucky if your city has an independent or discount theater: don’t abuse it.

And that’s that: a few practical, mostly common-sense guidelines that, unfortunately, too many people don’t abide by. That, of course, works to your advantage: If everyone followed them, weekday matinees would be overcrowded and you’d all be seating in the aisle seat.

Happy Moviegoing.


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Comments

Boy, TK's really never going to live that down, is he?

Posted by: Smokin at November 3, 2009 3:04 PM

Most of that is pretty sound advice, sir. Good show.

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at November 3, 2009 3:11 PM

This is the absolute best moviegoing advice I have ever read. All of it is spot on in my experience.

I've never seen anyone write about how a crowded/raucous/undisciplined theater audience can be a boost for a certain type of movie...and yet it's very, very true.

Well done, sir.

Posted by: Jerce at November 3, 2009 3:13 PM

I agree on most counts, but changing seats isn't always a viable option, and if I'm moving, I'm making sure those talking fuckers know the reason I'm moving with a little evil-eye-contact.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at November 3, 2009 3:13 PM

One of the great experiences of my life was sharing Zach Galifinakis' penis with a dozen Pajibans.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at November 3, 2009 3:13 PM

Oh, and nothing is worse than seeing a movie for the first time with someone who has already seen it, because then they insist on showing ownership of the movie, which makes it difficult for you to claim your own ownership: “I love this next part,” is the single most obnoxious thing you can hear during a movie, except for when someone repeats the dialogue right along with the movie.

There's one way to get around this, don't sit next to them. It's the only way, and that way you can both get what you want.

This was great, Dustin, you've seen more films than any of us, and it's good to get some advice.

Posted by: George at November 3, 2009 3:14 PM

I consider myself a reasonable person but I've come close to murdering people in movie theatres.

Posted by: becks at November 3, 2009 3:22 PM

There used to be a $1 movie theater a few blocks from my mom's house in Morrisville (my brother used to work there). I saw Romeo and Juliet, Kill Bill 2, There's Something About Mary, some crappy Adam Sandler movie...I never felt like I wasted my money, and I only had to wait about a month or so for the newer films to arrive. It was awesome.

There are three Ritz theater houses in Old City Philadelphia, so I almost never miss out on an indie movie I want to see. PLUS they give out these little Broadway-like playbills that have crossword puzzles that are themed around a movie that's playing. Those are the movies I go to by myself, so I was thrilled that before No Country for Old Men I got to amuse myself with a Cohen brothers puzzle.

Posted by: Julie at November 3, 2009 3:23 PM

Thank you, Dustin. That was clinical and informative.

My wife acts weird in theaters, like a 15 year old out with her friends. Lots of talking, fidgeting and bag rustling. We don't go very often.

We caught Harry Potter recently and snuck in food (we bought bottled water on site, though, so suck it). My snack? Raisins and yogurt-covered pretzels from Fresh Market. Quiet and delicious. Her snack? Corn Nuts, aka Dental Thunder. It sounded like Optimus Prime was chewing his way out of a diamond mine. I just laughed and called her a crazy bitch (yeah right).

Posted by: Kballs at November 3, 2009 3:24 PM

Excellent guide, Dustin.

Also, if you are going to bitch about the concession prices: smile, pay, gather your treats... then complain to your friend or significant other. Don't bitch to the old lady or teenager waiting on you. They didn't set the prices, they probably agree they are too high, but you're just making them uncomfortable and making yourself look like a jackass.

Posted by: vikky at November 3, 2009 3:25 PM

And should you attend an adult theater, be sure to wear a hoodie and fill your pockets with Handi-Wipes.

Posted by: Skitz at November 3, 2009 3:25 PM

Nicely done Dustin. I especially like the go alone and concession advice. I go to tons of movies alone - and I have always enjoyed the experience. And I'm just anal enough to open the plastic candy wrapper on my nonpareils before I go into the theater.

Posted by: Cindy at November 3, 2009 3:26 PM

Also: that picture is magical.

Posted by: vikky at November 3, 2009 3:28 PM

I dunno, I'm still hesitant about seeing movies in theaters. I had such a horrible experience at Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince that I was ready to kill. BUT, my husband talked me into seeing Where the Wild Things Are and we were lucky to be in a theatre with 4 other people. That was quite pleasant.

My new plan is called "Take Thursday Off and See a Matinee".

Posted by: Scully at November 3, 2009 3:29 PM

Is that your kid in the header pic, Rowles? If so, cutie!

Posted by: Snuggiepants the Deathbringer at November 3, 2009 3:32 PM

I consider myself a reasonable person but I've come close to murdering people in movie theatres.

I actually have, we were eating fritos, and he said, "maybe socialized medicine would be a good idea." So I wasted the gosh darn fella.

Posted by: Glenn Beck at November 3, 2009 3:32 PM

I watched Inglourious Basterds next to a gaggle of blue-hairs, and they didn't stop running their fucking yaps throughout the whole thing. They were also blocking my exit from the row.

At the beginning of the 3rd act, I stood up, grabbed my jacket, and bounded over the seat in front of me, gave them the fuck-you stare, and moved to the other side of the theater.

And of course they didn't even notice.

---

Years ago Amanda and I went to see 1 Hour Photo, and we had a similar situation: a band of teenage douchenozzles right in front of us, GIGGLING the whole way through. I have never wanted to kill people so badly in all my life. How the fuck do you giggle through that movie?

Posted by: ahamos at November 3, 2009 3:35 PM

Preach.

I love my discount theater (only $.99!). And it factors heavily into my movie-going choices. I've purposesly waited for things that look like they're of the "so bad it has to be good" category. I'm also pretty lucky to have a theater that does a Midnight Matinee series in the summers - Repo Man? Freaks? Yes, please.

Posted by: Jess at November 3, 2009 3:37 PM

Such a great guide, Dustin. A special note to groups of meathead guys who feel the need to provide a one seat buffer zone between each of you: this makes everyone in the theater think that you're secretly more gay not less, and unnecessarily afraid of it to boot.

And this:
I returned to see it again, this time with a nearly empty theater, and it wasn’t nearly the same without a tattooed man shrieking like a little girl
will NEVER get old.

Posted by: branded at November 3, 2009 3:37 PM

Alamo Drafthouse: The fact that one is buying "adult beverages" certainly tempers the inflated prices on fluids; as does the purchase of a sandwich rather than just popcorn or a bag of candy. Hence, I indulge.

As for what time to visit:

1. For a good crowd experience, nothing beats the later shows there. Children are filtered out and the "cool people" think Alamo Westlakes isn't. Kick. Ass.

2. Without a crowd, Tuesday evening, theater 8 the week after a flick is released. Good to go!

3. Day of release, nothing beats hitting a show in the 4pm interval. Hardly anyone is there and I can escape before the big crowds arrive!

I love you Alamo Drafthouse! BEER!

Posted by: Lubeg at November 3, 2009 3:38 PM

I go to discount theaters all the time (well, roughly as often as I go to full-price ones) and I've never felt morally obligated to buy concessions. I never buy them, period. It's impossible to buy popcorn without getting a drink, and I don't like needing to go to the restroom during the last twenty minutes of a movie.

Posted by: Todd at November 3, 2009 3:39 PM

@kballs: the 'dental thunder' comment just about slayed me.

i absolutely love going to the movies by myself. in and out-no fuss.

Posted by: gem at November 3, 2009 3:42 PM

I admire people who go to movies alone. Me, I just can't do it. Maybe someday.

Posted by: MM at November 3, 2009 3:51 PM

Good advice, sir, most of which I follow.
I'm especially down with supporting indie and discount theaters by purchasing their concessions.
I love being able to see good movies for a reasonable price and their prices on snacks are generally cheaper.

Posted by: Spender at November 3, 2009 3:52 PM

When I saw the 3rd Lord of the Rings movie, I went with about 5 or 6 guy friends. They made me sit next to the gaggle of 10 year old girls who proceeded to squeal EVERY FUCKING TIME Orlando Bloom came on screen. "OMG he's so cute and blonde and harmless SQUEEPONIESWHATSABLOWJOB??!!!"

Posted by: Julie at November 3, 2009 3:54 PM

Ossom list. I think you've emboldened (and embiggened) me to try seeing a film alone for the first time. At a discount theater, of course (always been a big fan of those).

Now I can't say, "But no one will see it with me!" anymore. Rest in peace, "But no one will see it with me!"

Posted by: Jelinas at November 3, 2009 3:57 PM

I like to wait until a movie's pretty far gone in its run. Me & pseudo-spouse and 2 friends saw Zombieland in a theater that was literally empty but for us. It was fantastic. We ate our popcorn loud and crinkled our candy wrappers and talked and laughed our asses off through the whole movie. Awesome. Would it have been better with a big crowd? Maybe, but I doubt it. We wouldn't have had the fun of yelling "Hey, we're over here!" when our buddy with the tiny bladder came back from the bathroom. All 4 times.

As for this: Also, I know it’s stereotypical to suggest that black audiences talk to the screen during movies ... When I saw The Grudge (years ago, obvs, and it wasn't my turn to choose), it was in a theater in an area that is predominately black. Not only that, but we went opening weekend. I went with two friends, and we stood in the lobby going, "oh, man, these are all teenagers." They were already all yelling at each other, and as we found seats in the pretty packed house, the yelling did not get any less. It was HILARIOUS. There were kids yelling at the screen, and at each other. I don't think I stopped laughing for two straight hours. Now *that* was a fun moviegoing experience.

Nice work, Mr. Rowles.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverpuppet at November 3, 2009 3:58 PM

My friend pours a little bit of her coke in the seat directly in front of her and directly behind her. It's brilliant, a bit evil, but she rarely has some irritating child kicking her seat from behind or some really tall guy with a backwards baseball cap in front of her.

She also flat out refuses to move hr seat for movie latecomers who want all 10 family members to sit together. You want a good seat, get there earlier.

Posted by: kylers at November 3, 2009 3:58 PM

Oh! I forgot to say that I love going to the movies alone, for pretty much the exact reasons you list. Sometimes it turns out different, though: I went to My Bloody Valentine 3D alone, and wound up sitting next to this 65 year old lady who cackled with glee right along with me through the whole thing. Made it so much better.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverpuppet at November 3, 2009 4:02 PM

Oh, yeah, and a funny story about ghetto theaters. A friend of mine saw LotR: FotR in a ghetto theater. She was sitting behind these two black ladies who were screaming for Jesus' assistance throughout the film (was it even that scary? I only remember being REALLY freaked out when Galadriel went crazy. What? I have low tolerance).

Anyway, at the end of the film, Sam and Frodo are looking out over Mordor and after some HoYay! looks, they step forth into Mordor and -- roll credits.

There's a moment of silence, and then one of the ladies spits out, "Awww, HAAAYULL NAW!!!"

Okay, maybe you have to hear that story.

Posted by: Jelinas at November 3, 2009 4:03 PM

I go to movies alone all the time. Usually to the Sunday 12:00 matinee and the theaters are absolutely empty. It's my "me" time and I get very little of it. I'll defiantely go with other people but most of the time I'd rather do it myself. Kind of like sex.

Excellent guide, Dustin. I bet Miss TK still squeals everytime she sees that movie.

Posted by: admin at November 3, 2009 4:07 PM

Excellent guide Mr. Rowles. I prefer going to movies alone, I psych myself up to be totally absorbed into that giant screen and the realities that are projected on it.That said, one of my most memorable theater experiences was Spielberg's AI.It was a mostly empty theater in a small town on Vancouver Island, mid week evening showing and after the credits had rolled, the big burly biker guy three rows in front pronounced in total deadpan "Well, that was fucking depressing."

Posted by: brite at November 3, 2009 4:08 PM

MM:
I can't bring myself to go alone to movies either. It makes me feel like a lonely loser. Same for eating alone in restaurants. I have done it, but I really don't like it.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at November 3, 2009 4:15 PM

Todd I hear you on that - but I do make the effort to buy popcorn at least...movie theatres are pretty special entities so I want them to hang around. I can't stand the notion of them turning fully into vast arenas with a.d.d crowd control blaring full pandering to the lowest common denominator. Ugh. Been there, have we not?

I also wonder what kind of psychoreactive-gestalt-ectoplasmic readings would ping out of your average movie house? You know, if that stuff were real.

I'm a loner, aisle hugger, crackle cop too...I think I'd die of shame if I had to make half a row stand up mid-film! I may be guilty of a few whoops in my time, but I'm trying...I'm trying.

Posted by: replica at November 3, 2009 4:16 PM

Lubeg,

Alamo!! I go the less-cool ones in Austin (Lake Creek and Village) because downtown is, well, downtown, and S. Lamar can get crowded during a festival.
I LOVE the fact that they usually don't allow any kids under 6 in, and usually no one under 18 without a parent. And they can be pretty good about people who talk, if you raise your flag enough times.

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at November 3, 2009 4:21 PM

don’t turn around to either shush a person or give him the stink-eye. It just makes the whole situation even more fraught with tension. The best thing you can do is simply get up and move.

I agreed with the entire guide, except that part. I much prefer the "shut the fuck up" method. Although, where I live, people don't usually shoot each other over friendly discussions. Not like Saskatoon. *shudder*

Posted by: Xtreme at November 3, 2009 4:27 PM

Don't eat! Don't fucking EAT! Don't munch or masticate or gnaw at ANY fucking thing at ALL!
I HATE this fucking snacking culture, I hate it with all my heart.

Posted by: AbFab at November 3, 2009 4:28 PM

Thank you, Dustin, for the note about the food. I worked in three different theatres, all independent, and they completely depended on concession sales to stay afloat. Even then, it was tight - now with everyone being super low on spending money, I'm sure it's worse. So every time you walk past that snack bar with your pockets bulging (not THAT way, pervert), just think - WWDD?

Posted by: Lauren at November 3, 2009 4:29 PM

Yes! I love that picture up there.

Although, neither Dustin nor anyone else in the Comments, has mentioned
the adorable little rug rats and associated issues. I mean, I personally rely
upon shunning, grumping and a bucket of buttered corn for throwing.

Absolutely freaking agree with Sunday Noon matinees. Gives me time to
read my paper and lounge with the pooch. Then it's off for brunch at the
Pub (2 pints and plate of sammich or Fish & Mashers)) and then it's off to
the movie house for some 'me' time. Bringing someone along often throws
off my concentration.

Another favorite is the adults-only-showing (not the 'zexy' type place) wing
of the local multi-plex. The one that has showings at 10pm or so and serves
mixed drinks. That'll be where I go to see Twilight (yeah, I'm gonna go see it).
Less squeely / yapping and more "edges" nicely dulled.

I don't go to Discount Theatres (I'll wait for Netflix) as most times, they're so
run down or smell pretty stanky.

Posted by: Ms MoMo at November 3, 2009 4:32 PM

Ah, sneaking in the foods. I agree, I have no issue with buying concessions from art theaters, and sometimes they have really good stuff -- my favorite theater, the Kentucky in Lexington, KY, sells wine and beer.

But it's still fun to sneak in stuff. My little bro is the KING of sneaking in food to movie theaters. He only does it for the large cineplexes, but his accomplishments include smuggling in a whole large pizza and an apple pie. Stuff like that. He even had rules -- no bags, or corny shit like that. It had to be hidden in his clothes. His crowning achievement, though? The ingredients to make root beer floats for him and a dozen friends. The boy had some skills.

I once snuck in a pan of warm brownies still fresh from the oven -- it made "High Tension" so much more bearable.

Posted by: linny at November 3, 2009 4:34 PM

Nice list, Dustin. I will take this into consideration.

But I have a confession to make: I am one of those people who talks during the movie. I'm sorry, Pajibans. I don't even do it on purpose, really. Growing up, watching a movie with my family was a damn free for all; everyone talking or trying to find the remote.

Understandably, my friends gave me shit for it. During one particular experience, I shut my mouth and kept it that way for an hour. My bf nudges me on the shoulder and muttered "Shit, it's not the same without you talking during the movie." Sweet as it was, I've managed to keep a lid on it since then.

Personally, talking during the movie doesn't really bother me. I like hearing the reactions from the rest of the audience; its part of the experience. It certainly made X-Men 3 bearable.

Posted by: Brie at November 3, 2009 4:35 PM

SQUEEPONIESWHATSABLOWJOB??!!!"

Julie, you just made me produce a most unbecoming snorfling noise. Good thing the office is empty...

Nice guide, Dustin. Some good points there. But you left out one option for dealing with talkers - kill em! That tends to shut them up, and you don't have to move, unless they were behind you and the pool of blood running downstream is threatening to mess up your shoes.

I go alone to see films more often than not. I like it better that way. I don't do the concessions though, no matter what cinema it is, because I just don't snack during films. And sorry, but I'm not paying their prices for water.

Posted by: Tarn at November 3, 2009 4:47 PM

I'd add that there are some movies for which seeing them at a cheap theater actually improves the experience.

I saw "Gran Torino" at a non-chain, dilapidated second-run theater, and that totally heightened the experience of that particular movie.

Likewise, I can't imagine having seen "Borat" in any venue OTHER than a cinema drafthouse with a rowdy, half-drunk crowd.

Posted by: Jacktrade at November 3, 2009 5:03 PM

You couldn't resist, could you.

Posted by: TK at November 3, 2009 5:15 PM

Good advice here. I'm still seeing 95% of all my movies at home, but I practice most of these tips when we do venture to the theater. Lately it's been okay but I really don't have time to go to a theater anyway for the most part. Only super special can't miss gotta see now flicks like "Zombieland" and "Drag Me To Hell" get the theater treatment lately. And they are usually worth it.

Posted by: TylerDFC at November 3, 2009 5:17 PM

I totally agree with the friends part, There are some films I prefer to watch alone, mainly ones I have been psyched to see for a while. It's always struck me as odd as to why people are scared of going to the cinema alone, (and concerts for that matter) as once the film starts its a fairly solitary experience. Maybe its the fear of being seen as a loner?

Also, talking about seating, I was once sat on the seat closest to the wall in a fairly packed row, and really needed the toilet. So I thought to myself 'I can avoid being the jackass who makes everyone on this row! I can just climb down the gap between the seats and the wall! I'm near the front this will work!'

So it turned out the gap was a lot slimmer than I anticipated, but I had committed myself, and didn't want to lose face... so after freeing my foot that was wedged in the gap, I climbed over the empty seat in the front, and the row after that, and then I climbed over the next one, only to discover, of course, the seat wasn't empty and there was just a really short woman sitting on it, with my foot now on her head. I quickly apologised, and turned around only to realise that all the audience behind me was watching. I clumsily made my way back to my seat, and too embarrassed to move again I held it in for another hour.

Still, it made The Exorcism of Emily Rose a lot more eventful. Anyway the moral is, be the jackass if you have to be, the alternative is often much worse.

Posted by: Temet Nosce at November 3, 2009 5:20 PM

After shushing a teenager in Batman I got this response:

"What? What'chu gonna do?"

Now, I'm kind of a pussy, but he didn't know that. And I sure as hell wasn't about to take lip off some 13 yr old punk. So I leaned in close, so close that my lips were practically touching his ear, and said:

"If I hear one more Goddamn word from you I'm going to cut you fucking tongue out of your head and feed it to you."

He was a black hole of silence for the rest of the movie.

I've found that if you're going to shush people in a theater it helps to be creative and specific with your threats. "I'll kick your ass" will only incite anger on the part of the talker, while, "I'm going to gut you and wear your entrails to keep me warm," will make most people wonder if they should just take their conversation/comments outside.

:)

Posted by: ChickenStu at November 3, 2009 5:21 PM

I'm definitely in the 'shut the fuck up' group when it comes to talkers. Sometimes this backfires, I'll admit. Like when two teenage girls threatened to kill me (I live in London, you don't fuck with teenage girls in certain areas, this was my mistake, I have learned).

The best part of seeing Zombieland was me and my boyfriend turning around to the knobhead behind us (who had been providing a running commentary the whole way through) and telling him to shut up at the exact same time. I didn't see his face, but apparently it was a picture. He mumbled something lame in response, but he was quiet for the rest of the film.

Posted by: Carrie at November 3, 2009 5:22 PM

Excellent guide. I usually end up at the 10 pm movies-now I'll try either the earlier ones, or different days. The only two things that really bother me are cell phones and bad parents. Cell phones, because even if you're just texting, the screens are damn bright. Bad parents because kids should just not be at the midnight showing of a horribly violent movie. A number of years ago we went to the late showing of The Corrupter, where some family brought a baby and a little girl about 6 or 7. The entire movie she struggled to sleep in her seat and asked to go home. That movie had to be seen in the theater? Couldn't wait for the DVD?

Posted by: mrcreosote at November 3, 2009 5:23 PM

Good list, Dustin.

I remember the time I was in highschool and I went on a "retreat" with the cool girls in the girl's club we were in. We all went to see "Smokey and the Bandit." It was a packed house. Me, being the shy nerd, ended up sitting next to one of the chaperones who kept asking me what all dirty words me. "B, what does FU mean?" "Fuck You, Ms. Smith." "Oh, thank you!"

It still cracks me up, although I was embarassed as hell at the time.

Posted by: BWeaves at November 3, 2009 5:24 PM

Worst: seeing a movie that you have already seen with someone who hasn't seen it. Case in point: "Raiders of the Lost Ark". When Marion was "killed", my date was very upset, and started asking me if she was really dead. I told her to just watch the picture, she would not be pacified.

She finally shut up when Marion showed up inside the tent. But, Jebus, that was a hassle.

-Ralphie

Posted by: Ralphie at November 3, 2009 5:25 PM

Oy, the discussion of kids reminds me: most of the movies I see in the theater tend to be shitty horror movies or crazy big-bang action movies. And almost none of them are appropriate for kids. So whenever I realize that someone has brought a kid to the theater, I have a serious WTF moment.

Which reminds me of a time when I was about 12, and I somehow convinced my father that I wanted to go see The Fourth Man. For background, my dad had been taking me to all manner of foreign and/or arty movies since I was really small, most of which weren't wildly inappropriate, just wildly boring to a kid. I can't remember where I got the idea to see the movie, or why, but my dad was like, "Hey, sure!" Probably just excited I wanted to see a foreign movie.

So The Fourth Man was directed by Paul Verhoeven, in Dutch, starring (young) Jeroen Krabbé and Renée Soutendijk. It features, among other things: masturbation, full frontal nudity, gay sex, a penis getting cut off with a pair of scissors (hello, Antichrist!), an eyeball getting poked out, a guy getting impaled through the head... My dad got a lot of side-eyes once the lights came up and we were leaving the theater. I'm not sure he particularly cared, but I definitely remember the "people are staring at us" feeling.

And clearly, the movie had a hand in warping me for life, so they weren't wrong.

Posted by: MM at November 3, 2009 5:52 PM

Now THIS is a guide that everyone should read! And I agree with the part about buying concessions at the independent theaters, but going halfway for the chains.

In my experience, screenings of more adult, mature movies are dominated during those times by much older people. And no offense to your grandmother, but the only thing more annoying than squealing teenage girls during a Twilight movie is a theater full of blue-hairs, who not only talk loudly during the entire film, but often have to have dialogue repeated or explained to them by whoever is sitting next to them.

Ugh. YES. I went to see The Others when it hit the local arts center's matinee (it was like $2 for students). An old couple, despite the fact that the theater was almost completely empty, sat directly behind my friend & me. Now, anyone who's seen that movie knows that it is a very quiet film. So, naturally, the woman spent the entire movie saying, "What did he/she say?" to her husband, who would then recap EVERY DAMN WORD. Finally, about halfway into the movie, after trying my best to be polite, I couldn't stand it anymore. I stood up and turned to my friend and said loudly, "I'm going to sit up front where I can HEAR the movie." I grabbed my purse and marched up to the front row.

My friend said the couple was silent for the rest of the movie.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at November 3, 2009 6:09 PM

Spot on about The Talkers. They ruin the best movies and make the worst movies good.

For reasons I can no longer remember I saw the last Spiderman in a packed theater in Boston. God it was awful. Well until the chick asks Spidey who he is...then from the back of the theater someone yells I'M SPIDERMAN BITCH! The whole theater lost it. Turned out to be the only enjoyable moment in the whole movie.

Posted by: Drea at November 3, 2009 6:20 PM

I love going to the theater by myself. None of my friends get it, but I hardly ever go to the theater any other way. There is nothing fucking worse than them talking throughout the movie, asking you what they just said, asking you what the hell is going on, fucking with their god damn sour patch kids, having to worry if their having a good time, playing politics with the shared arm rest, etc. etc... Shit is exhausting.

Also, it can ruin friendships. The last movie I saw in the theater was The Ugly Truth because I had a friend in town and she wanted to see it. She thought it was the funniest fucking thing she ever saw. We no longer speak.

Posted by: Cruise at November 3, 2009 6:33 PM

@ linny:
I think we all might need details from your brother re the fine art of pizza
smuggling. A girl's gotta eat... and make the other theatre patrons jealous.
That kid's got some skills.

Posted by: Ms MoMo at November 3, 2009 7:27 PM

Went to the IMAX at Universal Studios on a Saturday afternoon to see Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs in 3D with a room packed full of kids, who giggled and laughed and gasped in awe from start to finish. Then went to a 4pm screening of Zombieland with all the other people waiting for the park to open for Halloween Horror Nights. A whole group actually stood to cheer every.single.time. something was broken or killed.

Yeah, both films with exactly the right audience.

Posted by: BrockParty at November 3, 2009 7:33 PM

In my experience, no other genre of film is ruined more by a bad audience than a horror film. All it takes is one drunk homeless person telling the survivor girl to suck his cock or a bunch of tweeners sneaking in and spraying cheap Hot Topic perfume over everything to throw you out of the mood. Matinees are essential for the genre. I'd argue so for comedy-horrors as well, since many do not realize it's ok to laugh during these movies. I've been yelled at for laughing during horror-comedies (one person threatened to throttle me for laughing during Shaun of the Dead) and find the smaller opening day matinee audience more liberating. If they're willing to get to the theater before 11AM to see the movie, they probably know what they're getting into.

As for friends, I avoid them as much as possible. All they want to do is talk and steal my food and I'm just not putting up with it anymore. We can discuss the film over a proper lunch afterward, not during the damn film. Bringing the lunch in a to-go box doesn't shift the time of discussion, either.

Midnight movies are a mixed bag. Some people show up plastered out of their mind (especially to Harry Potter screenings, not that I can blame them) and act as a major distraction. Sure, it makes 40 minutes of Dumbledore drinking water far more entertaining, but at what cost? At what cost?

Posted by: Robert at November 3, 2009 7:37 PM

Best moviegoing experience ever: being pretty much the only white person sitting in a theatre full of Japanese people seeing One Missed Call (the original Japanese version, obviously, not the shitty Hollywood remake). Not only were men and women screaming and yelling throughout the whole movie (and then cracking up with nervous laughter afterwards), there were cellphones, handbags and god knows what else being flung all over the place in 'terror'. IT WAS AWESOME. I've never had a more... interactive film experience.

Posted by: Ness at November 3, 2009 7:54 PM

That's a great guide, but I don't agree with what you said about crowded theaters. For me, crowded theaters are good only if it is a selected crowds (like in some premieres and festivals where they are really interested in seeing the movie) or in really bad movies. I mean...

Bad movie in crowded theater story: I love Seed of Chucky but I'll probably never see it again because I know part of my love comes from the audience I saw it with... it was one of the funniest movies I ever saw, mostly because of the audience! But I'm pretty sure it is a terrible movie...

Good movie in crowded festival story: Black Dynamite is amazing, but was even better because I got to watch it in a crowded theater that really seemed to be getting the movie.

Good movie in crowded theater story: A bunch of stupid 19-year old children ruined The Hangover for me. They laughed the whole time even in moments where it was supposed to be quiet, and people were talking ALL THE TIME, saying to the person next to them "hey, just like that time..." and "ohhh... that's a terrible situation" and "I think now he's gonna do something"... anyway, you get the picture. When it's real children talking, I understand, they're children, like when I saw Up in a crowded theater, there were kids explaining the movie to their stupid parents the whole time, but that didn't bother me as much as the stupid people in The Hangover.

There's one little thing that bothers me: Brazilians love hearing any reference to Brazil in films, so I was watching Cold Souls (in a festival) and when the guy mentions they got the soul of a Brazilian composer the whole theater went down in laughs like it was an amazing joke... this happens a lot, so if you're a filmmaker and want Brazilians to find your film funny just put somebody saying "Brazil" at any random moment and your movie will be a big hit.

Posted by: zito at November 3, 2009 8:16 PM

In the end, this all tends to be a crapshoot. As I work weekends, I tend to see films in the middle of the day on weekdays, and sometimes it's great, and sometimes you get some insane people. Oddly enough, I just saw "Moon" today at the discount (1 dollar) theatre. I have no idea why it was there, the theatre generally shows the broad family/action stuff. I hope it's a trend that continues.

Posted by: e at November 3, 2009 8:41 PM

I'm lucky. One of our chain theatres really enforces the city curfew, which is awesome. Under 18 kids are not allowed in any movie that ends after the 9:30 curfew without their parents.

And the independent theatre has kick-ass popcorn. The downside at that location being the arrangement of seating in the main theatre - if it's crowded, and you've got someone sitting in front of you, you can't see shit.

Posted by: Nadha at November 3, 2009 10:08 PM

During 500 Days of Summer, there was a couple sitting right in front of me and my girlfriend who were constantly talking and frequently texting. After being told several times to be quiet (by us as well as by a few other patrons), they got up and walked out halfway through the film. As they reached the exit, the guy yelled out "SHIT FUCKIN' MOVIE!"

It was horribly rude, but somehow really hilarious.

I've recently found myself valuing independent cinemas more and more. My experiences with huge chain cinemas tend to be disappointing (lots of talking teenagers, that sort of thing), and frustratingly expensive.

There's an independent cinema I love going to now(if anyone's in Melbourne, Australia, it's the Sun in Yarraville). I'll happily buy their concession food and drink, as it's much more reasonably priced than the big chains; the screenings tend to be populated by adults rather than teenagers, so everyone knows when to shut up; the staff are always friendly; there's a fantastic bookstore in the foyer so you can browse for books if you get there early; a lovely restaurant right next door, which makes it perfect for dinner/movie night; and they sell all of their leftover posters (I'm a sucker for cheap movie posters).

This place takes three times as long to drive to as my nearest chain cinema, but it's totally worth it.

Posted by: Daniel Hall at November 3, 2009 10:11 PM

legend has it paul lynde once got in a woman's face, saying, "lady, if you don't shut that kid up, i'm going to fuck it."

go, uncle arthur!

Posted by: gp at November 3, 2009 10:37 PM

Finally, an article for the other half of the cinema going public.

The comment on the behaviour of specific audience groups was interesting. It made me recall a trip the other half and I had to see 'Love the Beast'. As the other half is a bit of a car far (owning the exact same model of vehicle as Eric Bana's beloved beast), I surveyed the audience with great trepidation.
Flannel (plaid for the Americans in the audience), mullets, wifebeater shirts and tattoos of a dubious nature to boot - in Australia we call them bogans (related, I believe to the UK's chavs).
I'm not good with loud audiences and was very apprehensive - but boy was I in for a suprise! As soon as the lights went down you could hear a pin drop. Not a sound. The crowning moment was when Bana wrote the car off and the audience let out a collective 'oh no'.
Honestly, best audience ever. never ever thought I'd say that!

Posted by: rubikat at November 3, 2009 11:03 PM

I've been going to a cinema near me in Perth (Western Australia) since it opened, and I can only remember one mildly notable experience. In Kill Bill 2 Uma has a line about Bill having been in Perth 'mining Silver'. When she said it the entire audience reacted in unison. It was a little nervous giggle at having our Dullsville town mentioned in a real life Hollywood movie that merged seemlessly into scoffing at the clearly absurd notion of Silver being mined in Perth.

"Heeheugh". Dozens of people simultaneously. It was glorious.

Posted by: James at November 4, 2009 1:00 AM

Who cares!!! My boyfriend also agrees with me. He is 10 years older than me, lol. We met online at age-gap club -- http://AgelessMeet.COM/. Maybe you wanna check out or tell your friends.

Posted by: Kyra at November 4, 2009 1:17 AM

I have no problem whatsoever going to the theater by myself. I often go at odd times and see odd movies too, docs and whatnot, so occasionally I am the only person in the theater. At those times the theater is my living room and I have the Best.Mother.Fucking home theater system in the universe.

And then two other people will show up and FUCK UP MY NIGHT.

Why oh why can't all second run/indie theaters be like Alamo Drafthouse? It's like I read the other day about a bowling alley in Brooklyn that serves high-end cuisine. I mean, the theaters and the bowling alleys treat us as if all we could possibly want to consume are Jujubes, popcorn, nachos and giant soft drinks. I guess they think that works and they're stickin' to it. But the craft beer boom proves there's a market out there for people who want something better than the standard swill. GIVE US SOMETHING BETTER!

Posted by: , (TCFKAB) at November 4, 2009 1:52 AM

One of my worst experiences in a movie theater? A friend and I went to see Caligula (the one with Malcolm McDowell). Now this movie is xxx-rated - and it is about Caligula. People behind us didn't stop complaining about how graphic and disgusting it was. In the end my friend turned around and said in her best upper class English accent - "if you don't like the movie why don't you get the f*** out of here" - they did not say a single word after that.

Posted by: Julia at November 4, 2009 2:01 AM

, (TCFKAB)
That is exactly why the brew pub theaters here in Portland are so popular. Not the best or fanciest theaters sometimes, many are buildings converted from other purposes, but for $3 for a second (sometimes first) run movie where there are NO children or lowlifes, it is totally worth it. Food and bev service at table. Here is one of them. It used to be a school:

http://www.mcmenamins.com/index.php?loc=57

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at November 4, 2009 2:42 AM

I'm sorry, but I agree with Todd up there; I'm not buying food I don't want, especially when it's insanely overpriced. I don't like eating or drinking while watching a movie; I want to be completely immersed in the experience, and I don't want to fumble around with wrappers or buckets or paper cups. Maybe they could jack up the ticket prices or put out a tip jar.

I always try to see a movie right after work, before the crowds pour in, and thus I usually end up watching movies by myself. It took some courage to do this at first, but I find that as I'm getting older I'm caring less about who might think of me as a loser for being there by myself.

Once a friend and I were the only ones in the theater, and a creepy mouth-breathing old guy came and sat in the seat right next to her. WEIRD. We moved. That doesn't always work so well for me now, since I can't see shit in the dark and I have a balance problem; getting up for any reason during a movie is pretty much a guarantee I will wind up in someone's lap or glued to the sticky floor.

My best experience was seeing Serenity; crowd was large but quiet and respectful; they laughed and cheered at all the right times. Whedon fans are awesome.

Posted by: DeadBessie at November 4, 2009 8:38 AM

Ms MoMo -- His favorite trick is to just put the box between his shirt and a light, baggy jacket and slouch a little. One hand in the pocket of the jacket holds the box in place. It's hard to do with a large pizza, but he's managed it.

He also typically packs a liter of soda up in there too -- after all, if you're bringing in a whole pizza, especially for a couple of friends, you've got to be courteous and provide some liquid refreshment.

Posted by: linny at November 4, 2009 8:58 AM

My number one gripe with seeing movies in theaters nowadays is the shitty, shitty projection. Especially at large chain theaters. And no one ever says anything. Where the Wild Things Are was so out of focus when I went to see it that it just looked like an army of turds dancing around a poo forest. So I complained. I am that person. I urge everyone here to become that person. It takes about 5 seconds to focus a film. There's no excuse and we shouldn't have to pay 10 dollars to see genius cinematography reduced to a blurry, badly framed, jittery screen full of garbage. Join me in complaint, fellow movie-goers. We will all benefit from it.

Posted by: sheshakes at November 4, 2009 10:08 AM

Word, on the independent theaters. I live in Boston too and one movie space in Cambridge has *real* butter on their popcorn! I can't even remember the movie I saw but the food was excellent and worth every penny.

Posted by: Lola at November 4, 2009 10:21 AM

I agree with the thing about black movies. I saw White Chicks in the theater because I was on a date and the girl wanted to see it. And hell, I enjoyed it, because I accepted the fact that it was a Wayans movie, and because the audience made it fun.

I will never see it again.

Posted by: Lucas at November 4, 2009 11:08 AM

*sigh*

Ah, Lwa'e', I'm here, and you and brewpub theaters are way over there ...

*makes frowny face*

Posted by: , (TCFKAB) at November 4, 2009 12:00 PM

sheshakes, I bitch. I bitch plenty if something's wrong. I tend to stick to the theater in my town that has digital projection, which is beautiful and makes watching movies on lesser screens unbearable. I remember when the "surround sound" for a particular movie was atrocious; something was wrong with the speakers and they kept cutting in and out, with lots of static. I went out to complain that they should at least shut the damn things off if they weren't working properly, it was a total distraction. Free ticket!

A discount theater in another town gave free tickets when it took them 15 minutes to get the film centered on the screen. It was hilarious because they kept the movie running the whole time, and all you could see were knees and feet. No one seemed particularly annoyed, and the problem got fixed, but the staff practically groveled for forgiveness when we left.

Posted by: DeadBessie at November 4, 2009 1:23 PM

I love going to movies my myself. There's no compromise on what to see, seating locations, etc. And it is glorious alone time - which is few and far between with a toddler at home. I always get concessions - it is part of the experience - but never thought about the theater needing that profit. Thanks for the insight.

I don't mind the teenager squealing girls every now and then. When seeing Twilight (after convincing my husband that he wouldn't want to see a teenage.vampire.love story.)I didn't expect it to be very good, so the reactions of the cluster of girls in front of me added to the entertainment and made the movie more enjoyable.

Thanks for the guide!

Posted by: Jen at November 4, 2009 2:35 PM





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