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15 Television Moments You Were Most Pissed Were Spoiled For You

By Dustin Rowles and Joanna Robinson | Posted Under Guides | Comments (85)



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(Publisher’s Note: This is a post about spoilers, so obviously, spoilers abound.)

There’s been a lot of talk about spoilers this week. There’s one particularly nasty spoiler for the The Dark Knight Rises going around right now that, in revealing a cast member, has revealed a major plot point in the film. You can, of course, avoid the spoiler, but once it’s out there, finding out almost seems inevitable if you spend enough time on the Internet. Likewise, Chuck Klosterman has written that the inevitability of spoilers have even begun to affect the screenwriting process, a position that “Lost” writer, Damon Lindeloff, seems to agree with, as he writes in reference to what he might choose to do next:

But now, if I thought of a major twist, I wouldn’t do it unless it was a home run. Because at this point, a base hit is not acceptable. And once you decide to do something like that, you’re faced with the question of, `What am I willing to do to hide this?’ Am I willing to lie to pretty much everyone I know? Is it worth lying to the crew and to everyone I work with? Because that’s the only way you can pull it off. (Grantland)

Dan touched on the topic some in his piece earlier this week, and while there is a lot to be said for watching a television series in huge chunks after the series has already completeld its run (or a season), the popularity of social networking has actually had a detrimental effect on time shifting. If you wait, there may be consequences. Viewers are so anxious to talk about what they’ve just seen, and since Facebook and Twitter are the most popular outlets for those conversations now, even West Coast viewers run the risk of being spoiled about plot points in their favorite television shows by East Coasters before they air.

It’s annoying. In fact, it can really piss us off. A few weeks ago, it happened on this site. Someone in the comment thread for a post unrelated to “Game of Thrones” revealed a major plot point (which is among those listed below) and at least three of the writers here on the site (who had not read the novels) were spoiled to the fact. We were furious. A reader actually emailed and asked us to remove the spoilers, but we were faced with our own dilemma: In order to delete those spoilers, we would have to wade into those comments and risk reading about them ourselves. Did we really want to step on those spoiler landmines?

Fortunately, it was such a big moment on “Game of Thrones” that the spoiler didn’t lessen the impact too much. But it did piss us off mightily. It also inspired this post, and we’re just going to put it out there now: If you watch a great television series years behind when they air, you may want to avoid this post all together. Certainly the comments. We will avoid those spoilers in the headlines, so skimming should still be possible. Just be careful.

Here are, in no particular order, the 15 Television Moments You Were Most Pissed Were Spoiled For You:

Six Feet Under, “Singing for Our Lives.”: “Six Feet Under” may have given us one of, if not the best season finales in television series history, but it was the last second of this episode that gave us one of the biggest Holy Sh*t moments of the last decade. It left me breathless, unsure. It’s so seldom that a series kills off a major character, and this wasn’t just a major character, it was one of the two the series revolved around the most. (—DR)

Battlestar Galactica, “Crossroads: Part II.”: The identity of the Cylons in “Battlestar Galactica” was the dramatic crux at the center of the series. If anyone could be a Cylon, then everyone could be. The highly-stylized and musical reveal of the “Final Four” at the end of season three had been teased since the beginning of the series, but if you knew in advance who the Four were, the irony of the brusque, intolerant Tigh and the heartbreak of affable Tyrol lost all its shock. I watched the series for the first time just this past year and during the first few episodes a friend kept saying “oh he’s important…pay attention to her.” That friend was banished from my life until I chewed through the entire show. Even a vague spoiler is a spoiler. (—JR)

Breaking Bad, “One Minute”: Arguably one of the best episodes in three seasons of stellar episodes, “One Minute” had two huge moments that might have lost their luster had they been spoiled. First was the shocking beat down that Hank gave Jesse at the outset of the episode. In the final minutes, however, it was a insanely tense sequence between Hank and the Cousins. I had no idea how it would end, but if somebody had filled me in before seeing it, I might’ve given him the same beatdown Hank gave Jesse. (—DR)

Veronica Mars, “Not Pictured”: Before she started watching the series, a friend of mine knew the identity of the Bus Crash Bomber. Consequently, she claimed she hated Beaver Cassidy Casablancas from the start. I call spoiler BS. Cassidy (portrayed with puppy dog vulnerability by Kyle Gallner) was the kind of bullied character we were made to love from the beginning. His adorable/troubled relationship with Mac sealed the deal. Upon rewatch, you can see the writers did a good job laying the groundwork for the villainous reveal, but I was as heartbroken as Mac to lose the Beav and would have used Veronica’s taser on anyone who dared to spoil it for me. (—JR)

Dexter, “The Getaway”: I did have this one spoiled for me in a small way. I’d planned on watching the episode the morning after it aired, but Twitter and Facebook were flooded with “OMG” messages as soon the moment happened, none of which actually gave away the plot point. But I knew something big was coming, and by the end of the episode, I could predict what it was. The scene itself was still fantastic, but the impact was certainly diminished. (—DR)

The Wire, “Middle Ground”: While “The Wire” was a bloodbath from the start (Wallace! D!), the death of Stringer Bell, a seemingly irreplaceable character and a powerhouse performance, came as a huge surprise. The entire episode is a tense nail-biter, but a telegraphed punch loses all its power and the O’Henry-esque double betrayal of String and Avon is a knockout. In fact, after that episode, I spent the rest of the series gnawing at my nails, convinced no one was safe. (—JR)

Sopranos, “Made in America”: The series finale to “The Sopranos” wouldn’t have been an easy one to spoil, if only because it would’ve taken some explanation. But the in the aftermath of the finale, the ending had been so discussed and parodied (even in a Hillary Clinton campaign ad) that anyone coming into the series fresh in the years to follow would’ve had a decent idea as to how the series ended. Knowing how it ends might have also put a lot of potential viewers off watching the series entirely. (—DR)

Buffy The Vampire Slayer, “Passion”: 1998 was a simpler time. No Facebook or Twitter. My classmate would tape BtVS and bring me the VHS Wednesday morning so I could watch. When she handed me “Passion” she said, “You’re going to cry.” And I did. Before Whedon became notorious for killing off our favorite characters, he slaughtered Jenny Calendar. It’s not that Jenny was necessarily our favorite, but in a signature Whedon move, she was beloved by a favorite and on her way to redemption/reconciliation. BtVS clips are notoriously hard to embed, but if you so desire, you can click here to relive the shock of Jenny’s death and the hearbreak of Giles’ discovery all set to some of the best writing Whedon’s ever done. (—JR)

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Game of Thrones, “Baelor”: This was the scene referenced above that was spoiled for several of the writers on this site, and probably plenty more who had innocuously clicked on a post to read about television shows coming out in the fall season. I didn’t know how it was going to happen, but I knew it would. It still stung, but it wasn’t as out of left field as it might have been for many who had no idea that Ned Stark would meet his demise. (—DR)

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Deadwood, “Here Was A Man”: Anyone who knows their history knows that Keith Carradine’s Wild Bill Hickok was not long for this plain. But I doubt most people expected such a strong character (portrayed by such a well-known actor) to go out so early in the series. There was an air of tragedy and inevitability surrounding Wild Bill, sure, but we all thought he had a little more time before we had to say goodbye. (—JR)

West Wing, “18th and Potomac”: It was the end of this episode that actually made it possible for the next episode, “Two Cathedrals,” one of the very best in the series run. But to inspire that much anguish in President Bartlett, there needed to be a death. And it came. It came hard. Right after Mrs. Landingham celebrated buying a new car, she was hit and killed in a car accident. Crushing. (—DR)

Lost, “?”: Nobody was sad to see Ana Lucia go, right? We were all pretty tired of her at that point, even if she had done us the favor of putting a stop to Shannon and her incessant whinging. But Libby? I did not see that coming. In a positively Whedon-esque turn of events, she was on her way to a romantic rendezvous with a universally beloved character. Poor Hurley. The word behind the scenes is that the actors were taken out because of their DUI infractions, but in terms of the narrative it was brutal and nasty. (—JR)

Friday Night Lights, “A Sort of Homecoming”: Again, the big spoiler moment came at the tail end of this episode (which led into the amazing, gut-wrenching episode, “The Son.”) The writers did a decent job of teasing a death in the episode (which you can see in the promo below), but most of us expected it to be Matt Saracen’s grandmother, Lorraine. It came as a huge blow to learn that it was Matt’s father, and when the tears began rolling down Julie’s face as she delivered the news and the episode faded to black, my jaw dropped and my heart sank into the floor. There were months between when this episode originally aired on DirectTV and when it re-aired on NBC, so I can only imagine how many people were sadly spoiled to this twist. I doubt it diminished the power of “The Son,” however. (—DR)

Alias, “Before The Flood”: Beleaguered and oft-separated lovers Sydney and Vaughn are off to elope when Vaughn drops a heavy “I’m not who you think I am” reveal followed by an abrupt car crash which made me jump out of my seat. I certain even J.J. Abrams didn’t know Vaughn was going to be an impostor at the start of the series and that knowledge sours much of the poignancy of the early, excellent seasons of “Alias.” In its final seasons the show jumped the shark that was actually a dolphin in disguise that was sent from the future to warn Leonardo da Vinci about the apocalypse…or something…I lost track. I wouldn’t however, trade my enjoyment of early “Alias” for anything. (—JR)

24, “Season Finale”: I watched only one season of “24,” and I did so years after it had aired. And thanks to the Internet, I already knew what would happen at the end of that season, whether I wanted to or not. The lack of surprise really did ruin that episode for me, and I never cared enough after it to move on to the second season. (—DR)

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Comments

Who spoiled the Wire thing when and where? Are you two just being rascals and spoiling it yourselves? Rascals.

I read about the Galactica season end because I'd lost the motivation to keep watching weekly, it just wasn't any fun anymore, so when I read it I was pretty much unmoved, except for thinking the musical motif was just.....dumb.

Posted by: Jay at June 16, 2011 4:11 PM

Glad I saw that "Veronica Mars" episode LAST NIGHT!
Cripes I was sure it was Guttenberg.

Posted by: logan at June 16, 2011 4:14 PM

Jenny Calendar's death is still one of the most painful I've ever seen in a TV show. Maybe it was the unexpectedness of it (I kept thinking she would escape right up until the end), or maybe it was the way it was shot (the silhouettes in front of the plate-glass, Snap), but I watched that episode as a grown-ass man and it almost made me cry. Fuck you Whedon. Who are you going to kill in the Avengers?

Posted by: the_wakeful at June 16, 2011 4:15 PM

One day in May 1983, Thursday I guess, this kid in my class who'd seen "Return Of The Jedi" opening day (and already had a pretty neat t-shirt, the little shit) said "Leia's his sister and Han Solo's his brother!" I don't know if he was just an idiot or if he was deliberately fucking with us, but it still smelled faintly of bullshit.

Posted by: Jay at June 16, 2011 4:15 PM

A note to the readers and editors of this site...

If you don't want to be spoiled to Game of Thrones again, you might want to think about jumping on reading the series before July 12th when the fifth installment of the series hits bookstores. I'm certain that the bibliophilic GoT fans around here will be dancing hornpipes of joy and ecstasy in the twenty-four hours preceding and following the release, and chattering to one another about who gets knocked on the head in the new book.

If you're thinking of reading the books, now may just be the time, my lovelies.

Posted by: StoatCat at June 16, 2011 4:16 PM

I know things are slow because of summer, but it seems like seriously random lists are all that is getting posted lately.

Posted by: Rhett at June 16, 2011 4:20 PM

My wife did NOT see the Game of Thrones moment coming. Her reaction was goddamned beautiful.

Posted by: Kballs at June 16, 2011 4:21 PM

I'm already tuning my hornpipes for the bacchanalia, Stoat.
And I actually managed to avoid the Six Feet Under spoilers. All I know is that the ending is SO SAD. Or something.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at June 16, 2011 4:24 PM

6, SIX frickin seasons of The Sopranos and all I have to show for it is one the most blantantly stupid endings EVER. I'm still pissed. I'm not sure if I'll ever STOP being pissed about it.

Oh Joanna, I just admit Alias stopped after the season finale of season 2. I will admit to the existence of two episodes of season 4, but it's much, MUCH less painful than admitting season 5 happened.

Dustin, season one of 24 will always be great. I'm so sorry that someone ruined the ending.

Posted by: Melody at June 16, 2011 4:28 PM

With GoT you really have to avoid EVERYTHING about that series. The fact the books have such a devoted following means near every mention of the series on boards has future spoilers. Pajiba and TWOP are the only recaps I read. I read a blurb about the upcoming book 5 Dance with Dragons and it contained a bit of news about the featured characters. In a series where everyone can be killed at a moments notice just knowing 3 characters that make it at least as far as book 5 is a major spoiler in and of itself.

I accidentally read a comment somewhere unrelated to True Blood that causally revealed the killer for True Blood season 1 (the first - and best - season actually WAS a mystery) while I was in the middle of getting the discs from Netflix as fast as possible. THAT really pissed me off.

Posted by: TylerDFC at June 16, 2011 4:31 PM

I had Dexter spoilered for me in the same way. Also, I managed to spoiler Battlestar for myself.
Sometimes I spoiler things on purpose if I know I am never going to watch them.
The worst was in 8th grade one of my friends spoilered Scream for a bunch of us the Monday after it came it out. Just walked in and was like wow that was badass, it was the boyfriend. WTF?

Posted by: Nimue at June 16, 2011 4:33 PM

I was going to see The Sixth Sense and met a friend coming out of the earlier showing. He said, "I'm not going to spoil anything, but the twist at the end will blow your mind!"

So knowing a twist was coming, I guessed it about halfway through. If I hadn't been expecting a twist, I never would have guessed.

What an asshole.

Posted by: The Mutt at June 16, 2011 4:33 PM

I've never watched the other shows, they may come in time but I'm never gonna watch Dexter. I don't like murderers.

Posted by: Jay at June 16, 2011 4:36 PM

[Deleted for spoilery assholery. Dipshit -- DR]

Posted by: Minto at June 16, 2011 4:41 PM

I had watched Six Feet Under when it aired, but my fiance hadn't. I had gotten the DVDs, and I decided to rewatch the show with him. I was careful not to spoil ANYTHING for him, because I wanted him to have the same experience I did. We had gotten through most of the show and we were about to start the fifth season, and my fiance was staring the fifth season DVD box cover art, which is a picture of the Fisher family dressed for a funeral. All of the sudden he goes: "hey how come Nate's not in the picture? And why does Ruth look so sad? Oh... Oh no."
Damn DVDs.

Posted by: Cree83 at June 16, 2011 4:48 PM

Aaaah Six Feet Under. I JUST finished the series a few months ago. Ama-za-zing ending for sure!
But to be honest, I was positive right from the end of Season 1 that Nate was going to unexpectedly die at the end of the series... I dunno, something about his character showing up initiating the series made me think him leaving would be a resolute send-out.

Posted by: Lisa Bee at June 16, 2011 4:51 PM

I wasn't spoiled here for GoT, but Facebook got me. No it didn't totally ruin the episode but I was gutted to know ahead of time. I'm going on Internet blackout for next week's ep. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Carrie at June 16, 2011 4:51 PM

I'm still truly amazed that they were able to keep the Newhart finale secret, but I'm so glad they were. It was one of the most spit-taking, jaw-dropping, gut-busting funny moments in TV history.

Posted by: The Mutt at June 16, 2011 4:58 PM

I spoiled a bit of The Wire for myself once. I was watching an episode where a major character gets shot, and I was curious about the actor, so I looked the show up on IMDB. IMDB conveniently listed the number of episodes that character appears in right under their name. They appeared in ALL the episodes, so I knew they would survive the shooting. I was a little pissed.

Posted by: the_wakeful at June 16, 2011 5:06 PM

People who spoil are shitty shit-filled shits, and they know it. They know what they are doing. They choose the attention/satisfaction of being "the one who knows something you don't" and informing you of their superior knowledge over your enjoyment of the story.

Posted by: Lauren at June 16, 2011 5:09 PM

I'm pretty sure Minto's "spoilers" were fake/a joke. Or else the show is going to vastly depart from the book.

Posted by: Cree83 at June 16, 2011 5:27 PM

If something is out for a for a few years (or decades) and it gets spoiled for me, I tend to not get too pissed. Like when I found out in the Harry Potter saga:

**SPOILER ALERT**

...that in the last book, almost everyone dies. Even the owl gets it. I just found out that one of those sexy Weasley twins kicks the bucket. That made me sad, but the fucking material has been out for years now. I could have had first hand knowledge of all of this had I cared to.

I get not running around and shouting that there's a "big twist" or someone dies or whatever. Don't go out of your way to expose the mystery (I had Fight Club ruined for me, so I get it), but I don't understand being infuriated when someone mentions a plot point that's been out there for the world to see for nearly fifteen years. It just strikes me as funny.

Posted by: Kala at June 16, 2011 5:30 PM

@ the Mutt, pseudo-Mr. Von Beav spoiled 6th Sense for me without ever having seen the film. He figured it out from the ads. I have never been more furious with another human being.

As for Six Feet Under, I hadn't even watched the show in years when I saw the series finale, and it slaughtered me still. It was GOOD.

I apparently am not terribly bothered by spoilers, overall. Occasionally it annoys me, but I guess ever since the above-mentioned incident I just don't care as much. So, thanks, honey? I guess?

Posted by: Anna Von Beav at June 16, 2011 5:44 PM

SPOILERS FOR THE AVENGERS COMICS

@the_wakeful: If they'd added Ant-Man and Wasp into the roster, I'd go with Whedon following comic canon and killing Wasp off.

Posted by: Ozioma at June 16, 2011 5:54 PM

I've managed to avoid a lot of spoilers thanks to either completely avoiding people/Facebook/websites like Pajiba that might have articles relevant to what I don't want spoiled (like when I would watch an episode of Lost a day after it aired, I went into total lockdown) or, in the case of this article, super-skimming the text. I saw that there's a Friday Night Lights spoiler up there and you better believe I scrolled away from that as fast as I could.

However, there have been spoilers that, despite my lockdown, have managed to get through. I had the winner of So You Think You Can Dance announced to me by, of all things, accidentally flipping to a radio station in my car instead of turning on my iPod like I usually do. To this day, I curse Ryan Seacrest and his stupid show.

More recently, I had the finale of America's Best Dance Crew spoiled. I recorded the episode as well as the MTV Movie Awards that were on immediately after. I decided to watch the awards, completely forgetting that a lot of times my DVR records the last minute or so of a previous show and it will play as the first minute of the show I recorded. So when I turned on the awards show, I saw the last 30 seconds of ABDC, which featured the end credits running over a shot of the winning crew standing alone on the stage.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at June 16, 2011 5:58 PM

God, that Breaking Bad clip is so amazingly good. I have chills. I watch the show, and of course the best part about that is that the Cousins had been working their way into to forefront of the plot for a while, and just being terrifyingly evil as all get-out every time they showed up.

Posted by: The Wandering Parakeet at June 16, 2011 6:04 PM

SPOILER ALERTS IF YOU'RE A SIMPLETON.

I am sick and tired of seeing people whine about Game of Thrones being spoiled for them. Do you know when the first book came out? 1996. 15 years ago. The fact that everyone involved with the television project has said, "Derp, we're keeping it as close to the book as possible" should reveal to you that THINGS WILL BE KEPT THE SAME. Some things are different, such as Renly being far more flamboyant and there have been no flashbacks of Rhaegar, etc. But the plot points are going to be exactly the same. If you're really "furious" over Ned Stark being beheaded -- hello, Joffrey's a fucking inbred twat -- then put yourself in isolation to scream your nerdrage into your pillow.

I can understand people being new to the fandom, but for God's sake. If you're willingly, willingly, not going to read these books (the announcements for this series have been preparing us for this for over a year -- the second season won't premiere until this time next year, either. We all had time to run down to the goddamn B&N for these books), then you forfeit the right to be mad when people who have been other fans of both express themselves on public social networking outlets. I'm courteous and wait until after the episode's been aired on the West Coast to even start discussing the episode (I tweet while I watch it), since I'm not a complete asshole, but I just can't understand why people get mad about material discussed from a source that's been around for nearly two decades.

Oh, and whoever posted a GoT spoiler on a non-GoT thread is a goddamn twat.

Posted by: duckandcover at June 16, 2011 6:07 PM

To clarify my own nerdrage, I'm one of those people who, if spoiled, will take that spoiler and go into a movie with the thought, "Well, I know how it ends, but how do they get there?" This site and its multitude of movie reviews, both with and without spoilers, taught me how to think like that. Plus, if the movie's fantastic, then I will still be floored, regardless of whether or not I was spoiled to begin with.

Posted by: duckandcover at June 16, 2011 6:16 PM

I don't know why, but I think the Dexter writers kind of tipped their hands on that one from at least two episodes before it happened, and I don't think that the media leak really made that much difference.

Posted by: Jerry at June 16, 2011 6:28 PM

Hate to nitpick but isn't it your left arm that goes numb with a heart attack. Looked to be Nate's right that was a-fuzzy.

Posted by: kirbyjay at June 16, 2011 6:40 PM

I don't mind spoilers. I still enjoy seeing how the story gets there. In fact, I kind of like them, most of the time, though I am careful not to spoil things for others.

Posted by: Agogagogo at June 16, 2011 7:10 PM

Eh, I get why people are annoyed by spoilers (esp. deliberate ones from "friends"), but just generally, if I like a show, I enjoy watching it because I think it's a well-done show. I don't need plot twists to enjoy it. I like seeing how they got there as much as I like seeing the results. So if I read or hear about something ahead of time (I don't Twitter or Facebook), I figure, well, I'll either forget it by the time I see the show or I won't, but whatever ...

I was late to watch "Six Feet Under," so I knew whatshisface was going to die long before I actually saw it, but it didn't harm my enjoyment of the show. I'm not sure why anybody was surprised. He did have a brain tumor.

The only movie I can think of where knowing ahead of time would have really bugged me in watching a movie is "The Crying Game." I won't spoil it if someone here hasn't seen it.

I also won't spoil "Titanic" for anyone who hasn't seen it. Because I'm cool like that.

Posted by: Slash at June 16, 2011 7:12 PM

Hate to nitpick but isn't it your left arm that goes numb with a heart attack. Looked to be Nate's right that was a-fuzzy.

I hate to nitpick those who so hate to nitpick, but that's because it was a stroke, not a heart attack. Nate had AVM, which causes bleeding in the brain.

Posted by: branded at June 16, 2011 7:30 PM

I agree with duckandcover when it comes to something like GOT.
Getting upset about reading a spoiler is silly when it comes to TV/movies based on novels.

That's like getting upset if you find out the end of Harry Potter before the next movie comes out.

(but it is still dickish to make an effort to spoil people)

Posted by: Jules at June 16, 2011 8:06 PM

Posted by: duckandcover at June 16, 2011 6:07 PM

Seconded.

Posted by: Scully at June 16, 2011 8:26 PM

I have an acquaintance who loves to spoil everything - movies, books, tv shows even if he hasn't seen the movie/read the book himself. He goes online, finds out the good bits/spoilers and blurts them out whenever the movie/book comes up in conversation. "Let's go see Blahbiditydah!" we say. He'll chime in "Oh, I want to see that I hear the main character turns out to be the killer."

I have a special flavor of hate for him because he spoiled The Soprano's Big Pussy moment about 3 episodes before I got to it.

Posted by: MonkeyHateClean at June 16, 2011 8:43 PM

I am still pissed at being spoiled about a certain characters death in The Wire (not Stringer Bell)- I don't really want to invest in watching any further seasons when everything is coloured by knowing what is coming.

It's so fucking thoughtless yet I'm made out like a whiny bitch when I call someone out about it! FUCK SPOILING ASSHOLES. Ahem. Didn't realise I was still that upset about the Wire reveal.

Posted by: SAS at June 16, 2011 9:03 PM

I had to scroll past all of this, but stopped at Alias since I'd given up on it a long time ago. I watched the YouTube vid and thought "meh". It also occurred to me that these shows take wild tangents simply because the creator (or star) is completely bored with the show, and it's the only way they'll do another season.

Incidentally: I was giving my brother in law a quick review of the new Xmen movie, since he asked if it was suitable for his 7.y.o. son. I said it was, but warned him there was one F-Bomb: "but it's from a pretty interesting cameo". My wife then blurted out the name of the cameo, because she does not understand the concept of 'spoilers'. Or she hadn't reached her 9,000 words in one day quota yet...

Posted by: Nick at June 16, 2011 9:17 PM

NARM was the greatest Six Feet Under episode ever. Is it bad that we still laugh about it years later?

Posted by: Casey at June 16, 2011 9:34 PM

I just try to avoid sources I know could be discussing spoilers. I had Dexter spoiled for me because I caught up on the first four seasons while 5 was airing. So all the big moments, like the one above, and the one in season 2, were already known to me. However, I really enjoyed watching them get there.

And I agree with the material based on novels thing. You shouldn't be a dick about putting them out there, like "haha, XYZ character dies in a horrible way in this book!" while people are still watching. That's mean. But at the same time, if people want to discuss things on their own walls and the like, the material is already out there and has been. I came to the GoT series late (February of this year) but have not had a single thing spoiled for me because I decided I wanted not to, and took it upon myself to read the books to avoid it. The option for not being spoiled is there, but it means having the literary impact rather than a televised one.

Posted by: KatSings at June 16, 2011 10:47 PM

Even so many years after, that season of The West Wing is still (at least in my mind) the greatest single season of a television show of all time. And that clip is a huge part of that.

Posted by: Andre B. at June 16, 2011 10:49 PM

But people can also be dicks, accusing people of "spoiling" when they aren't really doing anything of the sort...for instance on Francis Capra's 1st Heroes episode, I posted something on my journal: "Weevil in his PJs!" and was lambasted by someone in Australia, because supposedly that was spoilery. Huh?? Really, that's a spoiler, when we had known for months that he was going to be on the show?

My complaint regarding spoilers is too revealing summaries or URLs showing up on my RSS feeder. If the URL is http:/joeblowstvreviews.com/omg-you-know-who-is-dead I can't even avoid reading the article, so I'm spoiled. And this is for current shows. I find this to be egregious for HBO and Showtime shows that many of us watch months later on DVDs, and many reviewers, if asked to be a little more careful about what shows up in a feed reader, will just say, "Suck it" (so their stupid blogs immediately go bye-bye). I don't recall any instances of Pajiba doing this.

Anyways, I"m super careful when scrolling through my RSS feeder. I'm waiting to watch GoT when I can get it with closed captioning from Netflix—I got too confused in the second episode, and I don't like to work that hard.

Posted by: Lurkette at June 16, 2011 11:13 PM

Re: The Sopranos.
Sometimes the journey is more important than the destination.

Posted by: OldSchool60 at June 16, 2011 11:22 PM

I totally just had Twin Peaks spoilered for me on Jeopardy. I know it is an old show, but I'm only half way through the series and think it kind of sucks that I know who the killer is now because of a Jeopardy question.


*DRESDEN FILES SPOILERS*
I got my father in to the Dresden Files books. He had read the most recent book, and I hadn't been able to get around to it yet. He and my exboyfriend were having a conversation and my ex (who hasn't even read the books, he'd just read an article somewhere) let it slip, with me sitting right next to them, that Dresden had died in the most recent point.

I went "whoaaaah! I haven't read that yet! Major major spoiler! Be careful about giving up details like that!" I was pretty upset.

He was more upset and thought it was totally unreasonable of me to get upset about the end of a book being spoiled for me, because I could run in to that information anywhere, and because "everyone turns to the end of the book their reading to see what happens anyway". He honestly didn't believe me when I told him that I never read the end of a book first and that I avoid spoilers as best I can. He started multiple arguments about how awful I had been for getting mad at him, and demanded I apologize to him.

Needless to say, I am not with him anymore.

Posted by: DominaNefret at June 17, 2011 1:34 AM

Yikes. I've seen part of a "Sopranos" and part of a "Friday Night Lights," but otherwise I have never seen a single minute of those two shows or any of the others. Got some cathcin' up to do, I reckon. Well, retirement's coming in about 13 years.

Posted by: , at June 17, 2011 1:37 AM

Aw man, Twin Peaks. Having the killer spoiled for me was brutal. I still really enjoyed the reveal but I can only imagine how much better it would have been to come into it clean.

Posted by: Saucin' at June 17, 2011 3:06 AM

Just don't tell me who Rosebud is. I haven't watched Citizen Kane yet.

Posted by: Pat C. at June 17, 2011 3:31 AM

Not to go too old school, but I am SO happy that spoilers were so much harder to come by back when MASH was on. I still think that the scene when McLean Stevenson's Col. Henry Blake got killed as he was taking off to finally go home from the war was one of the most horrific, stunning, horrible, brilliant things I've ever seen on TV. It still makes me shudder to think about it.

Posted by: Jaykan at June 17, 2011 8:48 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Henry's dead? This changes everything!

Posted by: Slash at June 17, 2011 11:25 AM

@DominaNefret

You've just spoiled the Dresden Files books for me. Oh, well.

Posted by: bentjohn at June 17, 2011 12:13 PM

Both Fred's and Wesley's deaths in Angel killed me.

Posted by: John W at June 17, 2011 1:35 PM

*Phew* At least nobody spoiled who Keyser Soze is.

Posted by: DoctorControversy at June 17, 2011 2:26 PM

Actually, I was sitting in a movie theater with my mum and one of those movie quote slides came up with the line "Who Is Keyser Soze?" My mom just blurts out the actors name and I go, "MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM." I hadn't seen it yet. I didn't let her forget for years and years and years.

Posted by: I Need More Allowance at June 17, 2011 3:02 PM

I hate to nitpick those who so hate to nitpick, but that's because it was a stroke, not a heart attack. Nate had AVM, which causes bleeding in the brain.
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Why thank you Branded. I never watched Six Feet Under so I didn't know that Nate was afflicted. And I really do hate to nitpick.

Posted by: kirbyjay at June 17, 2011 7:46 PM

Saw the titles of a couple I had to rush by (still don't know what happens in Season 4 of Battlestar, thank the gods). But I feel like, as spoiler-y things go, so much of The West Wing was spoiled for me in the last two seasons before I even watched the show and knew how big the spoilers were. There were still some surprises (like poor, poor Leo), but man, people found it really easy to let that stuff go.

Posted by: ChristianH at June 17, 2011 10:15 PM

(sarcasm on)

Oh man, I still can't believe they killed off Julius Caesar in the first Season of 'Rome' (2004)

HOW COULD THEY?!?!

The show ain't the same without him!

(sarcasm off)


Spoiled spoilers (?!?) never ruin it for me. I still enjoy the journey (pardon cliche) regardless.
That's what it should be about: the narrative as it unfolds, the characters developping..., not impatiently awaiting some earth-shaking final Revealation-to-end-all-revealations-&-T.V.Serializations-as-we-know-them.

Didn't watch 'Six Feet Under' until after it was over; Hearing about the ending is what aroused my interest in that show in the first place.

btw: I'm one of those people who abso-fucking-lutley loved how 'The Sopranos' ended. 100% flawless.
To any detractors: watch it again, from Tony's p.o.v. & then you'll see how it not only makes sense, but it was the only right way to end the series.

Posted by: harold ballard's ghost at June 17, 2011 11:21 PM

Six Feet Under - the show was about death. About his father's death. Death opened every episode if I'm not mistaken. I don't really see how Nate's death was a shock.

Game of Thrones? Spoilers of that magnitude should result in immediate immolation, hopefully taking the computer with them. I'm glad I haven't seen too many others. The events coming up in the last episode as well as the next couple of seasons are major, major shocks to the system. Keep it in yer pants, trolls.

Posted by: Protoguy at June 18, 2011 6:54 AM

@bentjohn

That's why I wrote *DRESDEN FILES SPOILERS* real big at the top, before writing anything. To warn people that there would be spoilers.

Thus, if you continued reading, you spoiled yourself.

If you have a choice to be spoiled or not to be spoiled that is on you.

Posted by: DominaNefret at June 18, 2011 1:26 PM

I'm gonna call bullshit on the folks who say "read the books and get a helmet" in response to those who don't like spoilers for breakfast. I'm a literary type by nature; reading is reflexive for me. If you recommend a book, I'll read it. If I love a movie or series that's based on a book? I'm at the bookstore the next day buying it. I read quickly. I've burned through the first 3 books in the "Song of Ice and Fire" series in as many days...it's just who I am. But I also have a full-time job, a family and a life. And I likes my tv & movie shows. So sometimes, I don't have the time to read the goddamn book. Sometimes I don't have an urgent desire to pick up a specific book, or my to-read list is already unwieldy, or I haven't heard of that book, or I'm HOLDING OFF BECAUSE I'M ENJOYING THE TV SHOW AND I DON'T WANT ANY DAMN SPOILERS TO MY ENJOYMENT! Life will hand you millions of opportunities, big and small, to be a dick and ruin shit for people. All we non-spoiler people are asking is that you pass up the opportunity once in a while. Sheesh. And if you don't happen to care or understand what the big deal is because spoilers don't bother you? Great. Good for you. Fingernails on a chalkboard don't much get under my skin either, but I recognize that it's definitely a problem for others so I don't indulge myself in that particular activity. In short, if you know it's a dick move (and you do) don't do it.

Posted by: Tae at June 18, 2011 3:38 PM

As much as I agree with you Tae, "(Publisher’s Note: This is a post about spoilers, so obviously, spoilers abound.)" is the first sentence. If you know you are that bothered, it's all on you for reading on.

If I missed something and misunderstood you, my apologies

Posted by: Protoguy at June 19, 2011 2:59 AM

Posted by: DominaNefret at June 17, 2011 1:34 AM

If you ever run into that guy again, you can tell him that not only do some of us NOT read the last page of the book first, but that we think it's the stupidest thing we've ever heard (oh, and that at least one of us (that would be me) never even HEARD of doing that until I was like 20. On account of how it's really dumb. I mean, you can't even tell half the time what's going on in the last pages without the context of the rest of the story).

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Devotion to Nerdly Accuracy Department: While Libby did indeed die in "?," she and Ana Lucia were actually shot in the previous episode of LOST, "Two for the Road."

Posted by: Sean Stangland at June 19, 2011 1:38 PM

It was spoilt, but it was still a punch to the stomach. Katelyn Todd's death at the end of the second season of NCIS was quite a shock to the system, even though i knew it was going to happen. and I know the "critics" here dont care for NCIS, but give me a bit of Tony & Kate banter any day.

Posted by: stofjas at June 19, 2011 5:05 PM

@Protoguy-
No apologies necessary, I think I just jumped to righteous indignation without being specific about who I was indignant with. My bad. I was actually referring to people in the comments section who were espousing the "I don't see what the big deal is if I spoil the storyline for you" line. I hope I know better than to complain about the spoilers that are clearly tagged as such in a column about spoilers :)
My irritation kicks in when people casually bandy about information because THEY read the book ages ago, or they saw the movie two weeks ago and wasn't everybody on the planet gifted with the same information by osmosis anyway? And besides the plot twists are SOOOOOO obvious, if you think about it. It irks me. It would be a wonderful thing if everybody was reading all the same things at the same time and watching all the same movies when they first are released, but don't the people who are waiting for the dvd, or paperback or even the knowledge that that book/movie/show exists deserve the chance to experience it for the first time at their own leisure?
I didn't know about the Southern Vampire Mysteries until True Blood. (After reading a few of them, I'm actually ok with that...) and I didn't pick up Game of Thrones until I saw the show. And I intentionally didn't start reading either series until I was VERY close to the end of the first season so I wouldn't be spoiled. And yet...I went into last weeks episode knowing what was going to happen because somebody just HAD to spill the beans. If I wanted to know ahead of time, I would've sought out a spoiler site, or demanded answers from someone who had read the books, or read it myself.
Yikes. Wordy response to your comment...the short story is: not mad at the article spoilers, probably should've been clearer.

Posted by: Tae at June 19, 2011 5:13 PM

You forgot the worst one of all. Season finale of Rome. Julius Caesar gets murdered by his friend Brutus.

WTF, Shakespeare?

That pseudo-profound argument with God in the Washington Cathedral is one of the most theologically insipid soliloquies I've ever had the misfortune to hear. Only a spiritually retarded liberal would characterize it as interesting enough to pass along. Ooh, he stomped a butt out on the marble floor! Get catechized, simpletons. Sorkin must have written that dreck between puffs on the crack pipe.

Posted by: King at June 19, 2011 10:27 PM

I'm really into Dexter and I was unfortunate enough to have the season finale above spoiled for me, as I was still making my way through season 3.

My mom was watching some terrible ET/Inside type show around when Michael C. Hall's cancer news came out. Suddenly without warning I hear from the next room "and here's Julie Benz, who's character was shocking killed in the season finale!" Fuck. Off. I'd saying knowing that ruined almost the whole season. So sad.

Posted by: Bon at June 20, 2011 12:45 AM

In that case Tae, I'm fully on board. Spoiler trolls are on the same level as those tiny-cock waste of skins who write malicious trojans and viruses. Well, maybe not that bad, but still on the same plane of uselessness.

I've read all the books in the Game of Thrones series and I still get pissed off for everyone else when someone spoils in comments on FB or elsewhere. The fact that they then usually defend their childish need to be shitfaced cockmasters only makes me despise them more.

Posted by: Protoguy at June 20, 2011 3:53 AM

@DominaNefret

I beg your pardon, you are correct. My bad.

Posted by: bentjohn at June 20, 2011 10:47 AM

I used to have this one friend who LOVED to blurt out spoilers, even for things that you wouldn't think had spoilers in the first place. Like, "oh, I saw that seemingly innocuous kids' movie. Yeah. It's really sad. The dog dies." FUCK YOU.

I hate spoilers. I like that element of surprise. Six Feet Under wrecked me for days. I also did NOT see that GoT moment coming and if someone would have told me about it in advance I would have punched them in the face.

Posted by: Nugs at June 20, 2011 4:52 PM

Damn it! First time I've had to read Pajiba in weeks and one of my favorite BOOK series get's spoiled in the comments???? Not everyone has read the most recent Dresden book. Grrr!

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