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Good science-fiction, be it in film or literature, is as much about where we are as where we could go, where time and technology can or should take us. Maybe sci-fi is better known today in films for its use as pulp, but the most watched and revered science-fiction movies — the best that Scott, Spielberg, Lucas, Kubrick, and Cameron could produce — have been able to marry their techno-futuro fascinations with commentary on the human condition.

With this Guide, I’ve tried to bring attention to 10 science-fiction films that largely flew under the radar — underrated or unknown gems that make use of the imaginative bombast of sci-fi through big ideas or unlikely images. They may not all be as visually stimulating as the well-known classics, e.g. Blade Runner or Close Encounters, but they’re just as challenging, and maybe even more rewarding for their ability to connect with the imagination using thought as much as sight.

jetee.jpgLa Jetée (1962), Chris Marker — Chris Marker’s short cinematic essay grows in complexity with each reflection, a film that deceives you with its simplicity. Composed as a series of stills broken only once with moving frames, La Jetée (elaborated for better and worse by Terry Gilliam’s 12 Monkeys) posits a post-apocalyptic scenario wherein a man travels back in time to discover the cause of and prevent a cataclysmic war. During his forays to the past he becomes obsessed with images he saw as a child: A beautiful woman and a dying man. As his journey grows more lucid, the narrator forges past and future, fate and history in a mind-bending, tragic climax. Marker’s use of still images forces the viewer to focus on sheer narrative push, aided by excellent sound design and a sparse, affecting narration. Few films are so successful using so little; La Jetée makes maximum use of its imaginative trappings for endless metaphorical potential.

alphaville4.jpgAlphaville (1965), Jean-Luc Godard — Godard, the sardonic jester of the Nouvelle Vague, made Alphaville as a thought-provoking send-up to several genres — pulp sci-fi and hardboiled detective yarns being the foremost. For one thing, the sci-fi elements are completely irrelevant: secret agent Lemmy Caution arrives in Alphaville (What the hell is it — city? Planet? Neighborhood?) piloting a weird Ford Galaxie and looking to find a mysterious professor, but he ends up on a mission to destroy an evil supercomputer that rules Alphaville, outlawing human emotion and ritually killing much of the populace. On the way he woos an emotionless maiden. Godard’s farce hardly makes for subtle commentary, but Alphaville’s vision is still compelling — he finds a totalitarian future not in broad, Orwellian gestures, but simple Parisian landscapes (hotel lobbies, neon-lit streets) and the simple insight that technology is easily manipulated into a means of social control.

solaris1.jpgSolaris (1972), Andrei Tarkovsky — Soviet master Andrei Tarkovsky’s answer to 2001: A Space Odyssey, which he felt was cold and alienating, is a dark, mystical exploration of memory and the limits of androcentric reasoning. Solaris, reworked from Stanislaw Lem’s novel, was a complete inversion of the Western scientific positivism that almost always pervades science-fiction — a daring, ethical critique of modern society’s lack of spirituality. The story follows psychologist Kris Kelvin, who is sent to a troubled space station orbiting a living, ocean planet that, he discovers, communicates with the cosmonauts by creating living versions of their past hopes, fears, and overall, guilty consciences. Tarkovsky’s film, infamously slow and talky, is spare and hypnotic, relying almost solely on images and ideas that couldn’t be replicated with a budget (which it certainly didn’t have anyway). Though watching this movie can be a commitment (this is Tarkovsky, after all), the mesmerizing shots and beautiful photography can be reward enough.

stalker.jpgStalker (1979), Andrei Tarkovsky — Another Tarkovsky epic: Stalker is unbelievably slow — so slow it’s hypnotic, obtuse to the point of being a dream — but a necessity for science-fiction that deals with the biggest philosophical ruminations. In a dilapidated, ruined city ruled by authoritarian force, the eponymous Stalker acts as a guide, leading a cynical writer and a troubled professor (both of whom are vague representations of competing modes of thought) into the “Zone” — a literal and philosophical landscape that represents their own spiritual quests. Describing Stalker with words is pointless — there just isn’t anything else like it: Unending takes, spare dialogue, amorphous landscapes, and water everywhere — all unabashed metaphors for the perils of spiritual conflict. If you can make it to the end (Stalker is so artful and thick that even the most avowed cineaste will be tested), I guarantee these images will stay with you forever.

lathe_of_heaven15.jpgThe Lathe of Heaven (1980), Fred Barzyk and David Loxton — A micro-budgeted PBS-affiliate produced television movie based on Ursula Le Guin’s novel of the same name, The Lathe of Heaven makes a mountain out of a molehill, using the story’s excellent ruminations to bolster what are essentially no production values whatsoever. Seriously, most of the movie is cleverly filmed around what looks to be a dentist’s office and a large corporate bank, scored with Casio plinks and augmented with sub-Atari video flourishes. And it works! The film follows George Orr, a man who comes to discover that his dreams become reality; he seeks help from a psychiatrist, who in turn tries to manipulate his dreams to benefit the world for good (at first). Each attempt results in an intolerable version of reality, Le Guin’s refutation of the myth of utopia, while the psychiatrist becomes more deluded and greedy with every problem he tries to solve. The film’s miniscule budget makes it rough around the edges, but the dialogue and intelligent plot engage in a way that visuals could not.

le-dernier-combat.jpgThe Last Battle (1983), Luc Besson — Luc Besson’s first film is a wordless, colorless look at a post-apocalyptic future of scavenging and survival. It sounds like the recipe for something as stark and savage as Eraserhead, but Besson loads his premise with the brevity of an action-adventure. An unnamed, unspeaking (no one in this world can speak) protagonist lives in the dilapidated remains of an urban center, finding weapons and food among the detritus. As the story progresses, he comes to contend with a malevolent brute for what the film reveals to be the world’s most precious remaining commodity — a twist I won’t reveal here. Besson spends his limited budget on shots, angles, and edits rather than special effects; that he somehow marries silent, black-and-white art with an engrossing adventure is a pretty remarkable achievement.

Nausica%C3%A4%20of%20the%20Valley%20of%20the%20Winds.jpgNausicaä of the Valley of the Winds (1984), by Hayao Miyazaki — Whereas many of the other films I’ve listed here have relied on art or the minimalist use of traditional science-fiction visuals to be effective, Nausicaä, the first in a long line of Miyazaki/Studio Ghibli animated masterpieces is nothing but visuals, an entire world fueled by childlike speculation. Miyazaki’s films are often unfairly lumped (and thus, polarized) with the rest of Japanese animation, but they shouldn’t be; his films succeed unlike any other in building worlds from scrap: From the tiniest of details to the minutiae performed by the characters, everything has a purpose and internal logic. Nausicaä concerns a small, self-sufficient community in a post-apocalyptic world ruled by the eponymous princess Nausicaä that comes under threat of foreign invasion. It isn’t necessary to describe much of the plot — it’s a typical sci-fi/fantasy adventure, but one anchored in a stunningly fluid world and beautifully driven by passion and ethics. The overused chestnut “Quality entertainment for all ages” has never been more appropriate.

brazil_babyface.jpgBrazil (1985), Terry Gilliam — Gilliam’s version of authoritarian dystopia is one serious mind-fuck — Brazil is alternately one of the funniest and most disturbing movies I’ve ever seen. Taking a completely new and savage take on the classic Orwellian/Huxleyian future, Gilliam moves one step further by completely satirizing its victims. Brazil is a story saturated with heavy irony and nightmarish bureaucracy; the protagonist — a limp, ineffectual Everyman in a suit, can only fight against the cruel police state he inhabits by escaping to a ludicrous fantasy world, a habit which derails and then dooms his fight against the system. Gilliam’s cruel parody could make even Stanley Kubrick seem sympathetic by contrast, but his melding of humor and horror creates a glance into the future unlike any other.

quietearth400.jpgThe Quiet Earth (1985), Geoff Murphy — This quiet New Zealand film is often marred by Murphy’s mediocre direction and its dated ’80s presentation, but the concept behind it is so fascinating that it counters both. Zac Hobson awakes one morning after an attempted suicide to discover he’s the only man left on Earth; everyone and every thing with a pulse has apparently vanished without a trace. Alternately horrified and giddy, Zac runs amok, doing whatever he wants, taking whatever he likes from the empty stores and buildings, eventually holing himself up in a mansion and suffering delusions of godhood — an all-too-realistic madness induced by the isolation. Eventually his alienation is broken by the arrival of other survivors, though whether they’re real or in Zac’s head comes into question, as does his specific role in the annihilation of all life. As I said, the story is pretty captivating, hampered only by inconsistent direction and tone; this film is begging for a good remake.

laputa_castle_in_the_sky001-710x533-440x331.jpgCastle in the Sky (1986), Hayao Miyazaki — Yet another Miyazaki masterpiece (which makes, what — eight total?), Castle in the Sky, creates another world that offers the viewer nothing short of total immersion. Miyazaki’s films manage to express the inexpressible, the language of love and compassion; Castle in the Sky is a fairy tale, though describing it as such feels horribly reductive, concerning the heir apparent of an unknown aerial kingdom who slowly becomes aware of her destiny. In the hands of anyone else, Castle in the Sky would’ve been either ridiculous or saccharine to the point of lunacy, but somehow, every cel here makes sense. I can’t praise these movies enough; I discovered them as a jaded 24-year-old and I’ve been galvanized by their youthful spirit in a way I haven’t been since grade school.

Phillip Stephens is the lead critic for Pajiba. He lives in Fayetteville, AR.


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Comments

Well, my next few rental questions have been answered. I've only seen three of these, but...

Who hasn't seen Brazil? Those people... for shame. For SHAME.

Posted by: TK at August 23, 2007 2:47 PM

Seen most of this list. They're fantastic, especially Alphaville. Godard is my french man-crush.

Cindy? *sigh

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at August 23, 2007 2:47 PM

No forgotten classics post-1986? I know you limited the list on purpose, but it just seems like there would be something more recent worth publicizing. Oh well, I suppose my new mission is to brush up on the sci-fi classics.

Posted by: BLA at August 23, 2007 2:49 PM

Yes! Two Miyazaki movies!
And Brazil is just a movie everyone should see. Sci-fi lover or not. Sheer Brilliance.

Posted by: Ben at August 23, 2007 2:51 PM

*sigh* I just wanted my moment of glory, never having been first before. I've only seen Brazil, and I think it's time for a second-viewing.

Posted by: Cindy at August 23, 2007 2:53 PM

Oh Nausicaa!! How do I love thee; let me count the ways...

Yes. A good list for the netflix, since I've only seen Nausicaa and Brazil. Admittedly, I only saw Brazil for the first time about 2 months ago.

And I fucking love love love Gilliam. Le sigh.

Posted by: boo at August 23, 2007 2:57 PM

I saw Brazil for the first time in my tenth grade history class. I spent HS in Argentina and went to an international school so my history prof was a Norwegian thirtysomething who delivered passionate, red-faced political lectures in a viking helmet. He claimed that the helmet cemented his arguments and made it ok for him to shout:) He was also utterly convinced that teaching history meant showing us any goddamn thing he wanted or applied to what we were currently learning. It was awesome. ANYWAY, my 15-year-old mind was blown away that such a visually and politically complex movie even existed. It's still one of my favorites. Thanks for including it. Awesome guide!

Posted by: Constance at August 23, 2007 2:57 PM

I surprised myself by having seen seven of these already - I never really realised I was into Sci-fi. I loved all of them, except Brazil. Brazil dragged on and on for me, I kept wanting to leave but thinking it might be finishing soon anyway (It felt longer than Stalker). I know a good few people who love that film but I just don't get it.

I think I may have to accept that I am actually a sci-fi person and go and rent the other 3.

Posted by: sarah at August 23, 2007 2:59 PM

Great list. I've seen 'em all except for LATHE OF HEAVEN. BRAZIL is my favorite film of all time, and ALPHAVILLE is right up there. I don't really have much to say except that it's a bit of a shame what passes for "sci-fi" these days, as it doesn't always have to be space battles and insectoid aliens, which seems to have become the Hollywood norm in most respects.

Posted by: Mohaski at August 23, 2007 3:13 PM

Good list! Haven't seen two of them...wonder where I can get get "The Last Battle" & "The Lathe Of Heaven"? Hmmm...But yeah. Love all those other ones.

And maybe the Post 1986 list can be for another Guide?

Posted by: <3alec at August 23, 2007 3:18 PM

BLA asked about post-1986 Sci-Fi, and personally, two films immediately sprung to mind:

The Cube - perhaps not good enough to be deemed a "classic", but an engaging story that is well-plotted and keeps one on edge throughout...I thoroughly enjoyed it as a non-typical sci-fi thriller.

The Primer - A low budget film about time-travel and the ethical dilemmas that arise from said travel. A total mindfuck of a movie that stands up well to repeated viewings if only to try and figure out the highly recursive plot. Proof that thoughtful and entertaining pieces of cinema can be made very cheaply.

Posted by: Mohaski at August 23, 2007 3:24 PM

I seem to remember a television movie version of Lathe of Heaven with Lisa Bonet in the cast. I don't recall much of it, but the idea of dreams-are-reality stayed with me. It's good to know there is a better version of the story available. I confess I've never read Lathe of Heaven, but I have read The Left Hand of God (also by Le Guin). It's an examination of gender/identity in an alien society, and of course a commentary on gender in our own society. Great food for thought.

Posted by: rlr260 at August 23, 2007 3:28 PM

This afternoon finds wsapnin bent over for her pajibapaddlin'. Of the movies listed, she has only seen pieces of Brazil.

THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER?!

Posted by: wsapnin at August 23, 2007 3:31 PM

We found a VHS of Lathe of Heaven on Ebay...worth a look. My boyfriend raved and raved about it. There are some listed now.....http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=lathe+of+heaven&category0=

Hell yes to Alphaville and Brazil. Now I really want to see The Last Battle, too.

Posted by: dammitjanet at August 23, 2007 3:39 PM

well, crap, I can't get the whole link up, but trust me, there are some on Ebay now

Posted by: dammitjanet at August 23, 2007 3:44 PM

Great list, Stephen. Although I would have gone for the Miyazaki Tri-Fecta and thrown in Princess Mononoke.

Posted by: Manny at August 23, 2007 3:49 PM

Stalker is a blend of two works, "Roadside Picnic" by Boris and Arkady Strugatsky and the mostly unacknowledged Rouge Moon by Algis Budrys. Rouge Moon is hard to get a hold of, but it is a great, dark work of SF. (For those that have seen it, it's the basis for the last half of the movie.)

(Oh, seen all the movies...)

Posted by: SugarFree at August 23, 2007 3:53 PM

Miyazaki's films are often unfairly lumped (and thus, polarized) with the rest of Japanese animation,

By who, and where? I've never seen a review of Miyazaki that doesn't start out with some version of 'brilliant' or 'astonishing' -- and rightly so, the man's a genius. If anything, Nausiica's only problem is that he can't stuff enough of the graphic novels into the movie -- they're better, with even further character development. In the version of my life where I win the Powerball, I'd go over to Japan and beg him to let me fund an entire anime series of the graphic novels.

I also second the vote for "Primer" -- that was a hell of a crazy trip. There's another indie sci-fi movie out there about two loser friends who find themselves trapped in an endless limbo - damned if I can remember the name but it's fairly new, and kind of interesting.

I am excited to see "Lathe of Heaven" on the list, I saw it at the video store but couldn't guess at whether it was good or not. Thanks for the list!

Posted by: twig at August 23, 2007 3:57 PM

Ah damn, forgot to mention Satoshi Kon's newest one, Paprika.

Awesome trip.

Posted by: twig at August 23, 2007 3:58 PM

I think I saw La Jetee probably five or six years ago, being a big 12 Monkeys fan... I fell asleep. Same with Alphaville. Maybe I'm just a really sleepy person.

Anyway, I actually managed to make it through the entirety of Solaris... and I think I really preferred the Soderbergh remake, because it seemed more focused while maintaining that dreamy quality the original has. [ducks]



I remember listening to an interesting DVD commentary track on the original Solaris by Graham Petrie. He wrote a book on Tarkovsky, but during that five minute B&W shot of a car driving through Tokyo (it was supposed to be a city in the future), even he was hard pressed to explain WHY that scene was so incredibly long. I'm not sure that was the only scene in the movie like that, either.

Posted by: crat at August 23, 2007 4:00 PM

Mohaski, I just saw The Primer last week, and it was really intriguing. At first, it was too much dialog and too little action, but I realized after I saw it that I just couldn't shake it from my brain. Great choice.

Posted by: boo at August 23, 2007 4:02 PM

Now all we need is the list of horror films you should see but probably haven't.

Because they can be surprisingly good too, and this site is clearly aware of some of them (I seem to recall an aside in the child performances list about Jodi Foster in The Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane, and the Wicker Man review was quite angry that they destroyed the original horror so much).

Great list of Sci-Fi, and yes I haven't seen all of them. La Jette, Alphaville, and The Quiet Earth are now on my must watch list.

Posted by: Robert at August 23, 2007 4:06 PM

Cube and Primer are both great. Some other modern choices:
Pi
Equilibrium
Event Horizon
Dark City
Donnie Darko
In the Mouth of Madness
The Fifth Element (my fave!)

Posted by: Agent Scully at August 23, 2007 4:08 PM

Equilibrium is a godawful movie. God. Aw. Ful.

Posted by: twig at August 23, 2007 4:29 PM

Manny, I wondered too about the lack of "Mononoke", but really, it isn't sci-fi. It's more like a quasi-historical fable, and a fantastic one at that.

What I want to know is, where's "Ghost in the Shell????" Talk about mindblowing...

Posted by: pinkcheese at August 23, 2007 4:36 PM

BTW, sorry about the quotation marks, I know they're supposed to be itallics, but I'm lame and have never managed to figure out that whole tag thing.

Posted by: pinkcheese at August 23, 2007 4:38 PM

Equilibrium is fabulous! Especially Bale!

Posted by: Agent Scully at August 23, 2007 4:48 PM

Scully, I pray to Allah that you're being ironic. I will absolutely give you Cube, Primer, Pi, Donnie Darko... Dark City is an "almost" movie - almost great. Event Horizon... oh boy. In The Mouth of Madness I thought was brilliant the first time, horrible the second time. Equilibrium is fun, and the gun-fu (fuck OFF, Vermillion) is awesome, but... classic? I dunno 'bout dat. The Fifth Element is nothing but superawesome mind candy.

Posted by: TK at August 23, 2007 4:59 PM

Also, let's not forget folks, the list is sci-fi you PROBABLY HAVEN'T SEEN.

Posted by: TK at August 23, 2007 5:00 PM

Interesting list...tough I've only seen Brazil,Nausicaa and Castle in the Sky. I'll try to find the other movies because they seem quite good.

Posted by: Radlum at August 23, 2007 5:01 PM

Oddly enough, I've been listening to the Fifth Element soundtrack all day; I get on a soundtrack kick every once in a while (yesterday was Lost Boys.) As much as I love the movie, I would never claim it as great or earthshaking - it's just so much fun to look at all the Gautier and watch Milla Jovovich kick ass. I like TK's description of it; totally sums it up: "superawesome mind candy"

Posted by: pinkcheese at August 23, 2007 5:15 PM

Okay, I'll bite, I haven't seen any of these (No, not even Brazil, though that one is on my Netflix list currently). My only excuse is that I'm the same age as the oldest of these films, being born in 1986 myself. I will avail myself of the Netflix library and possibly my University's library for as many of these as I can.

You know, once I get done catching up on 'Firefly' so my status as a certified geek is never in question.

Posted by: Genny at August 23, 2007 5:16 PM

Scully and TK, I am not prepared to give you Cube. Reason 1, it's a horror/slasher movie in sci-fi dress; and Reason 2, it is likeable within its niche but NOT great horror and certainly not great sci-fi.

Pi: Greatness.
Equilibrium: I loved this movie. I believe I rambled on about it on another thread. Good action and meaty performances built on a decent idea.
Event Horizon: You gotta be KIDDING. Pure pointless suckage.
Dark City was groundbreaking in its day and I was blown away by it back then. I recently re-viewed it and, sadly, it doesn't hold up too well.
Donnie Darko: Absofuckinglutely. I was intrigued, stimulated and touched to tears by this film (when Donnie begins to laugh, near the end, I begin to cry; it never fails).
Mouth of Madness: I have a soft spot for this one because I am a Lovecraft fan; but let's be honest--it's a mostly senseless muddle with a few good shivery scenes here and there.
Fifth Element: I'm not sure if this is a guilty pleasure, but I find that whenever I run across it on TNT I can't...quite...bring myself to change the channel. I think it's the visuals. And besides, there's Gary Oldman doing his Ross Perot schtick--priceless.

Primer is in my queue. Oh, and for the record, of the films listed in the column, The Last Battle is not available from Netflix but the other titles I checked are. I especially recommend The Quiet Earth and the ORIGINAL Lathe of Heaven with Bruce Davison (NOT the remake with Lukas Haas).

Posted by: Jerce at August 23, 2007 5:29 PM

Brazil was a required film in my undergrad intorduction to film class. It was worth watching again for pleasure. No mention of Robert DeNiro as the plumber? So funny.

Posted by: Claire at August 23, 2007 5:30 PM

Twig--were you thinking of "Nothing," where two friends wake to find that the outside world is gone and their house is surrounded by white, bouncy material where the ground used to be?

Posted by: Ade at August 23, 2007 5:44 PM

Primer is amazing, but you need to watch it twice to really absorb it all.

I loved Dark City when it came out, but have been reluctant to re-view it because I was afraid it was one that wouldn't hold up well.

Pi was super but, and I realize I'm going out on a limb here, I cannot get behind Equilibrium. Gun-fu? Seriously?

Oh--and thanks for the Miyazaki love! Personally I think that if more little girls have Chihiros to emulate instead of Cinderellas, the world would be a better place.

Posted by: Sally at August 23, 2007 5:55 PM

Sally - no doubt! My daughter adores Miyazaki, and I'm sooo glad that she has probably half again as many of his movies in her collection than she does princess flicks. It would probably be an even greater imbalance, except that I bought Snow White and Sleeping Beauty (mostly for myself and their historic stauts). Of course, she never watches them, so I don't think they count.

Posted by: pinkcheese at August 23, 2007 6:11 PM

stauts=status

yes, I can type...

Posted by: pinkcheese at August 23, 2007 6:12 PM

The Last Battle is on my list of top five most depressing (and good) movies ever (which would be an excellent comment diversion topic BTW). I can't sleep after seeing it. I think it actually may be one of the reasons I haven't procreated.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 23, 2007 6:32 PM

It's wonderful that the folks at Pajiba give a little love to Tarkovsky. Solaris is akin to sominex in its soothing nature. But it is worth it.

Posted by: Mr. West at August 23, 2007 7:09 PM

I would also throw in The Fantastic/Savage Planet, a French animated film from the 70's, WestWorld for it's campy fun (anything spoofed by the simpsons is okay in my book.) And if anyone hasn't seen it yet, TRON, if only for the visuals. I know there are more on my mind, but I can't think of any right now.

Posted by: Some Guy at August 23, 2007 8:16 PM

Dang, there were a couple of these I haven't found on Blockbuster online.

Posted by: Jenny at August 23, 2007 8:48 PM

Can Brazil really be that unwatched (especially by Pajiban's?)? The fact that both Tarkovsky films are included more than make up for the possible lapse in calculating Brazil's obscurity. Stalker is so unlike anything and Solaris always makes me think about a joke I read once about a guy who was having the absolute worst day which included buying a ticket to see Solaris while expecting something along the lines of Star Wars.

Speaking of Lucas. THX-1138, anyone? You can throw a shoe at me for mentioning it, but at least it's not Equilibrium (or is it?).

Posted by: embryotron at August 23, 2007 9:31 PM

Tarkovsky intentionally wanted to play with time and people's perception of time passing in film. As Phillip mentioned in re: to Stalker, it becomes hypnotic and pulls you in. Or puts you to sleep. Either/or, I guess. Anyway, I love him. I love Godard, too, but Alphaville isn't very far up there as far as his work is concerned imo.

Posted by: markus at August 23, 2007 10:05 PM

Ade - yes! Nothing! Thank you! I saw that with a friend who hated me afterward because they found the whole idea profoundly disturbing.

THX-1138 is actually worse than Equilibrium. At least Equilibrium had cool outfits, Christian Bale's Leather Pants and Gun-Fu being about ten times cooler in action than I ever thought it could be. Seriously, the final showdown with the main villain is actually worth... fast-forwarding through the rest of the movie to get to it.

But seriously, THX-1138? Was I missing something? Slower than Solaris, less subtle than 1984, zero plot twists. Guh, didn't get the attraction.

Posted by: twig at August 23, 2007 11:08 PM

I agree with the list, though I would throw in The Man Who Fell To Earth, though I'm sure plenty of Pajibians have seen it.

Posted by: meg at August 24, 2007 1:53 AM

No, you weren't missing anything, twig. I had fond memories of THX1138 from the 1980s, when I first saw it. I saw it again last year, and couldn't believe I had ever liked it. Apart from Robert Duvall, there's nothing much to like in the film at all. It's ponderous.

I love La Jetee. But then one of my all time favorite films is Marker's other classic, Sans Soleil.

Posted by: rocky at August 24, 2007 1:55 AM

A Boy and His Dog

Harlan Ellison penned post-nuclear apocalypse tale of a callow young Don Johnson and his telepathic dog, Blood. Bonus points for graphic nudity and Jason Robards as a folksy utopian overlord.


I'd also mention Silent Running, but I recently saw it again after only remembering it from my childhood 25 years ago. Sadly not a great (although still largely unknown) cult classic.

Posted by: Merchantprince at August 24, 2007 2:12 AM

What, no City of Lost Children or Kin-Dza-Dza? The Nine Lives of Tomas Katz? Forbidden Zone? Not even Battle Heater: Kotatsu? For shame.

Posted by: Eli at August 24, 2007 2:33 AM

Some more post-86 little seens I think deserve more love...

Abre los Ojos: The basis for Cameron Crowe's "Vanilla Sky." Cruz is better in the latter, and I love Cameron Diaz's speech, but otherwise the Spanish original is a better movie. For starters, it doesn't contain painfully inappropriate source music (Beach Boys? Dear God...,) the tone was far more consistant, and the pro/antagonist wasn't played sympathetic as a cop-out.

Children of Men: Much of the sci-fi aspect was weak, but those continuous shots are unbelievable; the last of which had me sobbing in the theater.

Final Fantasy- The Spirits Within: Yes, it's derivative and stars mo-cap zombies, but that's part of the appeal. The film is creepy and awkward through and through, but the superficiality of it transposed onto a plot revolving around principles of Scientology really worked for me.

Strange Days: Goodness but this one was prescient, right up to the Y2K non-event. Ralph Fiennes has never been more charming. The technological voyeurism and general transgressive atmosphere seems right in line with our present and near future.

I'll back up the shout-outs to "Pi" and the original cut of "Donnie Darko."1 I'll even cop to liking aspects of "Equilibrium"2 and "Event Horizon.3" I've never gotten anything of value out of "Dark City"4 or "The Fifth Element," though. Those just felt like Eurotrash comic books. "Cube" and especially "Primer" were terribly unimpressive in execution and overpraised, with the latter feeling like "Blair Witch" in the last reel.


1 "Darko" provoked more after-viewing discussions with varied interpretations than anything else I'd seen, until Kelly ruined it with his website/deleted scenes/director's butcher.

2Gun-kata! It's all about the action directing, because the rest was cornball awful.

3 The quasi-Clive Barker riff was interesting, as was the deeply black ending, but the actual movie is shiite.

4"The Matrix" did a better job of spoonfeeding the same concepts, without getting into the geeky anime tangent until the lousy sequals.

Posted by: Frank Lee Delano at August 24, 2007 2:39 AM

Instead of Brazil, put Georges Franju's Les Yeux Sans Visage. I'm a little shocked it's not already there, given you have Alphaville and La Jetee, and it's better than either.

God is dead, and a scientist sets out to repair his daughter's face, which he destroyed in a traffic accident. It's a little Hitchcock, and a lot I don't know what, except icy horror. The images are so strong, they pull the story out of science fiction and into myth.

Some others:

The Village of the Damned (1960) and Children of the Damned. You might think you saw the big-headed space kids on TV, but get the DVD and see them uncut. It's interesting to compare the two films. Are the children a) evil, or b) good?

Joseph Losey's The Damned (1963). The weirdest mainstream movie you will ever see, certainly from that era. Sure, it has a colony of deliberately irradiated kids, brought up in a cave and educated to survive a nuclear war. But it is also part biker movie, and part incest psycho drama. Oh, and don't forget the avante garde sculptress. I'm not sure what it's trying to say, but it's interesting.

Wow, The Quiet Earth AND The Lathe of Heaven. You gave me the thrill of my Pajiba night. L of H is probably available on VHS through your library system.

Posted by: Janis at August 24, 2007 2:45 AM

I have to mention surprise here. I know none of these are modern choices, but I really have to offer up Aronofsky's The Fountain for consideration here.

This is not the same movie for anyone who sees it.

Posted by: Brian S at August 24, 2007 3:00 AM

do any of these films have triple breasted extras?

Posted by: rosie at August 24, 2007 3:48 AM

Nice call on Stalker. It's definitely a movie one has to see when in a very particular and patient mood, but the payoff then is fairly fantastic. Interestingly enough, I've found that the memory of it is even better, because of how the endless shots seem to imprint sharp impressions on the mind. I find that while watching it was an effort, thinking of it in retrospect makes it amazing and enduring.

Also, The Last Battle sounds fantastic. Netflix, go!

Posted by: kalexal at August 24, 2007 4:34 AM

Strangely enough I was reading about Alphaville last night and resolved to add it to my payday "buy this now kthx!" list (my list is apparently a LOLcat - how bizarre) the list just doubled in size.

I'm shamed utterly for not having seen Brazil, this must be rectified!

Also: Hurrah for the Miyazaki love, my imported Studio Ghibli box set is one of my most treasured posessions and the Miyazaki offerings are without a doubt my absolute favourites, I really need to sit down and re watch them sometime soon... like this evening.

Posted by: Alex the Odd at August 24, 2007 4:53 AM

Yeah, I guess I'm just living on this thread now. And damn me a thousand times for not thinking of Strange Days first. Man, that was such an awesome movie.

Posted by: twig at August 24, 2007 7:10 AM

"Darko" provoked more after-viewing discussions with varied interpretations than anything else I'd seen, until Kelly ruined it with his website/deleted scenes/director's butcher.

HEAR HEAR.

I don't even know if the original release is still available for purchase. I have a copy, but when the "Director's Cut" came out I had a look at it and was bewildered and disgusted by what had been done to the film. I'm SO glad the original is in my collection...Readers, avoid the "auteur's cut" of Donnie Darko like the plague.

Posted by: Jerce at August 24, 2007 7:21 AM

Extremely interesting list, thank you. I'm a science fiction buff, but you managed to include one movie I'd never even heard of (The Quiet Earth). I shall seek that out.

For those wishing to know more about THE LATHE OF HEAVEN, it's been rebroadcasted I think two years ago on public television in the US, and on that occasion the production company put out an official site which you can find through Google (Pajiba won't let me post a direct link, which is annoying but understandable). There's also a DVD, with extras, available. If all else fails, you can buy it from a site that you can Google too, using "shopthirteen" and "lathe of heaven" as search expressions.

And the book is wonderful, too.

Posted by: Pierre-Paul at August 24, 2007 7:41 AM

I have to vote for "City Of Lost Children" (my favorite movie of all time) and "Strange Days".

City Of Lost Children - Set in an unspecified time of poverty and sci-fi gadgetry that falls somewhere between the Middle Ages and the 25th Century, this is an incredible and eerie film. Full of evil siamese twins, brains of a mad doctor in a jar, visions of demonic Santa Clauses, little girls befriending circus giants, deadly electronic mosquitos, secret ocean laboratories run by nasty midget wives, children being harvested for their dreams and likeable, but bumbling clones - I think it is perfection. I saw this in a theatre by myself at a Midnight late show and when I came out around 2:30am, I ended up walking all night around Boston until 6am just thinking about and replaying this film in my head. If you haven´t seen it and you really appreciate challenging, but cool films, do yourself a favor and watch it. However, if you watch it at home, I recommend seeing it on at least DVD quality with as big a tv screen as you can get with the lights and phones turned off so you have no interuptions. It´s a deep film that needs that kind of atmosphere for maximum enjoyment. Some people seem to like "Delicatessan" better (terrific in its own right), but I think this is Jean-Pierre Jeunet´s masterpiece. And to think he did it on a $25 Million budget when it would have cost $200 Million if a Hollywood director had made it is even more remarkable.

Strange Days - This movie bombed in theatres when it first came out for different reasons. A lot of people who like "movies" found this film too thoughtful. Some who like "films" just didn´t care for the slightly unbelievable, sort of Hollywood-esque ass kicking movie it becomes towards the end. And even others didn´t like its borderline misogynistic darkness (although it was directed by a woman - Kathryn Bigelow). I personally think it rocks. It´s everything that an intelligent sci-fi film should be with a good dose of smart action movie thrown in the mix. And it has the terrific acting talents of Ralph Fienes and Angela Bassett. Although the 1994 tale now suffers from being one where it´s fictional time has passed (New Years Eve - Dec. 31, 1999) and it´s foretelling of the future and its technology wasn´t very accurate up to now, the story still holds up as a cautionary tale that we still may be heading towards. For me, it´s an almost perfect science fiction story that contains all the important fundamentals of the genre - authoritarianism, violence, technology, race, sex, politics, cynicism and a palpable chemistry between the too leads. I´ve watched this millennial tale 5 or six times in the past decade now and I think it still holds up perfectly.

Posted by: Tallsonofagun at August 24, 2007 7:59 AM

Oh, hell. Major kudos for Tallsonofagun for City of Lost Children. That movie is absolutely amazing, and should be on the list.

Posted by: TK at August 24, 2007 8:39 AM

The Last Battle is available on Netflix under its French title, Le Dernier Combat. Great movie.

Posted by: Cris at August 24, 2007 8:48 AM

"I have to mention surprise here. I know none of these are modern choices, but I really have to offer up Aronofsky's The Fountain for consideration here.

This is not the same movie for anyone who sees it.
"

Brian- I'm with you. I know I'm in a minority for actually liking this movie. Deeply flawed though it is (if I hadn't read/heard Aronofsky speaking about the film in press junket interviews I would've never known what was going on with the tree flying through space stuff...and the ending was more than a little cornball for me), I have to admire it for the risks it takes, especially in a day and age when most "science fiction" is laser pistols and bug-eyed monsters or robots (or matrices and super heroes).

Posted by: Armando at August 24, 2007 9:14 AM

I was not being sarcastic about Equilibrium. I love it. Maybe it's my guilty pleasure?

And Brian, yes, I agree about The Fountain. It's been my obbession since it came out on DVD. The movie is absolutely beautiful! It's given me a lot to talk about with friends, more even than Donnie Darko did. (Gasp!)

Posted by: Agent Scully at August 24, 2007 9:20 AM

"Children of Men: Much of the sci-fi aspect was weak, but those continuous shots are unbelievable; the last of which had me sobbing in the theater."

How can I forget "Children of Men?" You're absolutely right about those continuous shots, Frank Lee, especially the last one, which had a similar effect on me. It's a shame more people didn't see this movie when it was out last year.

I'd put "Pan's Labyrinth," even though it's more fantasy than science fiction, on a modern classic list as well, though I'm sure I'm not going out on any limb here. One of the most beautiful and poignant films I've seen in a long time.

Posted by: Armando at August 24, 2007 9:24 AM

I really loved The Fountain...right up until its disappointing ending. However, it did clear up my confusion over why so many people like Hugh Jackman--he is wonderful in this film.

Children of Men just kind of grabbed me by the eyeballs and never let go until the end credits rolled. I have no idea how long it is; it seemed to go on forever and pass in a blink simultaneously. It should now have a Best Picture Oscar but it wasn't even nominated. Pfeh.

Pan's Labyrinth is unspeakably gorgeous and heartbreaking and everyone in the world should not only see it but should own a copy. However, it is NOT SCI FI, okay?

Posted by: Jerce at August 24, 2007 9:32 AM

Thanks TK.

Posted by: Tallsonofagun at August 24, 2007 9:50 AM

Man, Jerce is tough today.

Posted by: TK at August 24, 2007 10:07 AM

I've only seen the Hayao Miyazaki films--but those alone are absolute must-sees. Please. See every one of his films. I could not insist enough because the artistry is breathtaking.

Posted by: staylor at August 24, 2007 10:08 AM

Throw another vote for The Fountain; I remained seated for a long time after it ended, and only got up because the credits were over and the ushers were looking at me funny. I wasn't sure whether it was good, bad, or both (the acting was certainly great), but it definitely moved me and stayed in my head for days.

Not to go off-topic, but I'm curious: what's so bad about Donnie Darko's director's cut? I haven't seen it and was planning on buying it, but now I'm intrigued!

Posted by: millie at August 24, 2007 10:24 AM

I fear that I might be dumb. I just don't get Donnie Darko. I have only ever seen the Director's Cut version, though, which a couple of you have noted is more than a little different.

Thanks for the list. My sci-fi love does lean toward the outerspace/alien variety & I feel that I need to expand my horizons. I look forward to checking these out.

Posted by: Smello at August 24, 2007 10:34 AM

Speaking of Hayao Miyazaki, "Howl's Moving Castle" is one of my favorite movies, with none other than Christian Bale voicing Howl. I can't recommend this movie enough.

Posted by: Mary at August 24, 2007 10:42 AM

Does the Prestige count as sci-fi? I mean, Nikola Tesla was there.

god that was a good movie

Posted by: twig at August 24, 2007 10:43 AM

what's so bad about Donnie Darko's director's cut?

Oh, agh.

I'm not sure how to answer this. In the second version the story is still all there, but the director has added things like written "chapter headings" and other shite to "help" the viewer understand the story--because we're all so fucking dumb, you know.

It was painful because the thing I like most about Darko is how you are required to use your own mind and experience to fill in the "blanks"/figure out what is going on and what it means to you.

I found it thrilling. And yes, the movie sparks a LOT of discussion because every viewer's experience is sort of individualized--you have to contribute something of yourself to the experience. That there is what I call art. I loved it.

Consequently, I LOATHED the director's cut, in which Kelly metaphorically hooks two of his fingers into our nostrils and then gently and condescendingly leads us through every. fucking. step. of the narrative.

Posted by: Jerce at August 24, 2007 11:12 AM

Millie:
I had the exact same reaction to The Fountain, I even went to see it twice in the theatre which I never do.

As for the Donnie Darko director's cut, I didn't find it was bad, just unnecessary. I felt it took some of the subtlety away from the theatrical version. It expanded areas that are interesting, but not necessarily integral to making the film better, which is rare for a director's cut.

Posted by: CJ at August 24, 2007 11:18 AM

If you think that's bad Jerce try watching the director's cut with commentary, it's insulting.

Posted by: Alex the Odd at August 24, 2007 11:23 AM

The Quiet Earth: >>As I said, the story is pretty captivating, hampered only by inconsistent direction and tone; this film is begging for a good remake.

Posted by: Adam at August 24, 2007 11:37 AM

I've seen all of these except the Miyazaki movies (which are definitely going into my queue), and that's an outstanding list. Particularly good call on The Lathe of Heaven; I would have guessed that those of us who had a) seen it and b) liked it could probably hold our annual convention in the corner booth at Denny's.

Posted by: Mr. Atoz at August 24, 2007 11:40 AM

Had to delurk (hello everybody!)to express my excessive love of Brazil (the only movie I've seen on this list, for shame Bibiza) - truely a glorious mindfuck in all senses of the word. But I have to put in my vote for Howl's Moving Castle - not as moving as the book, but still incredibly beautiful.

Posted by: Bibiza at August 24, 2007 11:47 AM

Primer is an incredible mind-f*** of a movie. Once you've watched it, you have to watch it a few more times to even begin to understand the complexities. Google "primer timelines" and you'llc ome across a nice chart that will hopefully unpack the tightly wound narrative threads.

As a Terry Gilliam fan (albeit one who is dismayed at the sad turn his career has taken with his last 2 films). I always thought Brazil was a given, but I am surprised by how many peple have never seen it. It's imperfect but a genuinely entertaining visual expereince and full of Big Picture ideas.

Posted by: Eddie Walker at August 24, 2007 11:56 AM

Damn my eyes! I specifically reminded myself to remember "The Fountain," yet somehow forgot how important it was to me. It affected me less than "Children of Men," but I enjoyed it more and am more inclined to revisit it in the future. In fact, it might have been my favorite film of '06, though I suspect I'm forgetting something. I never thought I would say this, but can you imagine how horrible it would have been with Brad Pitt, Cate Blanchette, and a bigger budget?

Jerce is spot-on regarding the Donnie Darko Director's Vivisection. I saw the film cold, so a great deal of invest on my part came from just trying to figure out what I was watching. You start with a slightly ominous John Hughes movie. The film became progressively more tense and the protagonist's actions questionable to the point I thought it might be a horror movie for a while. By the end-- is it sci-fi, pychotic delusion, fever dream, emo wank, or Messianic metaphor? I've heard all these and more.

Cut to the deleted scenes, which make clear Kelly's intention that a benevolent higher power is guiding Donnnie, and that Donnie is not suffering from demensia. Cut to the website, with loads of half-baked pseudo-scientific mythology that stills seems more obtuse than abstract (and why did Noah Wiley's character die, I ask?) Cut to the re-release, where these ill-considered materials are shoddily incorporated into the film, closing off avenues of interpretation and exposing Kelly's deficencies as both writer and director. We now have a b-grade sci-fi flick overburdened with melodrama that kills the joy to be found in the original's ambiguity. Literally, it takes a living organism, cruelly dissects it, and leaves it to die on an operating table.

I understand Canne got a rather lengthy cut of "Southland Tales" to critically savage. I'm hoping the severely truncated version to finally see release this year is like what happened to "Donnie Darko" in reverse. I prefer my universes tangential...

I should so end it on that note, but I can't help but be contrary and say that not only isn't "Pan's Labyrinth" sci-fi, but I don't think it's especially good either...)

Posted by: Frank Lee Delano at August 24, 2007 12:36 PM

Oh god. La Jetée was one of the many odd French films my teacher showed us in French class. I actually enjoyed it, but the other kids (freshmen-juniors) thought it was weird. It's definitely odd, but it was almost like watching a magazine feature. Really cool.

Posted by: Corinna at August 24, 2007 2:39 PM

"Cut to the re-release, where these ill-considered materials are shoddily incorporated into the film, closing off avenues of interpretation and exposing Kelly's deficencies as both writer and director. We now have a b-grade sci-fi flick overburdened with melodrama that kills the joy to be found in the original's ambiguity."

Wow

Posted by: Agent Scully at August 24, 2007 2:44 PM

Akira should be on the list. it took me 3 times viewing that movie to kinda get what in the fuck is going on..it is a kick ass sci fi movie

Posted by: Mr PPV THC at August 24, 2007 2:47 PM

Akira. God how could I forget that one? I still don't completely get it after multiple viewings.

Thinking about all this sci-fi has made me realize that I seem to gravitate towards anime/animation for the more profound, mindbending things, whereas I tend to prefer live action for basic alien and/or robot blow-em-ups. Perhaps I should broaden both ends of that spectrum.

Posted by: pinkcheese at August 24, 2007 3:39 PM

Strange Days reminded me of Brainstorm. Can I get some love for that film? The ending is a bit funky due to Natalie Wood falling off that danged boat, but Walken was great and the plot was way ahead of it's time.

Posted by: imk at August 24, 2007 5:52 PM

Okay, this is a moment that will define me forever. I secretly, and with every shameful ounce of my being, love Armageddon. Yeah, that one with the animal crackers and Ben Affleck and Steven Tyler pleading for you to care about the career and pocketbook of Aerosmith.

I was a tender fifteen at the time. My expereince in the sun of great chick flicks, (i.e. Steel Magnolias, Officer and a Gentleman, etc.) was non-existant. All I had was the loss of my first "love," the luke-warm cess pool of high school, a spiral bound notebook full of angst ridden poetry and this movie. The very *idea* of Bruce Willis being man enough to sacrifce everything for his daughter's happiness by blowing up a gigantic aesteroid with a nuke was, and still is, a tear jerker moment for me.

So sue me. Yes, it's COMPLETELY unrealistic, and yes, the dialogue is unforigvable. Granted, this is the number one reason Jerry Bruckheimer should never be alolowed to me near a movie EVER again, but hey, the juiceist, weepiest, most angst ridden months of my teenage life were spent watching this movie. I watched it so much, I actually had to buy another copy. I wore it out. Twice. It sits lonely on my dvd rack, because I don't dare watch it with my boyfriend. I can't drag someone else down with me. Besides, I want to choke up to those goddamn animal crackers all by myself.

Sometimes, I'll be flipping through radio stations and hear "Don't Wanna Miss A Thing," and listen to it all the way through. Sometimes I cry a solitary, melodramatic tear. Sometimes I just want to go home and listen to that track on repeat, but I resist the temptation. However, those brief moments of bittersweet nostalgia do it for me every time. And that is, to date, my number one shameful pleasure. I expect the mockery. I've deserved it since 1998.

Posted by: littlebee at August 24, 2007 6:00 PM

Where is my fucking Mr. Bean review????????!!!!! I need to laugh.

Posted by: PissBoy at August 24, 2007 6:32 PM

Best Sci-Fi movie ever: Timecop

Just Kidding

Posted by: Chazola at August 24, 2007 7:32 PM

Now Chazola, it did give us the sight of Jean-Claude Van Damme doing it a jumping slipt and landing on kitchen counters. And for that I am grateful.

Crap! Now I have to youtube it!

Re: Donnie Darko Director's Cut: Thanks for the feedback, guys! Much helpful.

Posted by: millie at August 24, 2007 8:22 PM

Err, please blame my enthusiasm for the above typos.

It's not really sci-fi, but Millenium Actress rules!

Posted by: millie at August 24, 2007 8:24 PM

hmm...
have seen all but two of the featured movies - i enjoyed reading the subsequent comments, they make me question the breadth of scifi as a genre. For example, whilst Pi was interesting i wouldn't have thought of it as a sci-fi film as such.

Posted by: trilby at August 24, 2007 8:50 PM

more votes for "Strange Days" and "City of Lost Children"...

but the list was great as it featured films most of us haven't heard of or seen...wasn't that the point...?

Posted by: idiot dentist at August 25, 2007 1:30 AM

idiot dentist - You´re right, it is supposed to be about more unknown films, but I would argue that more people have seen "Brasil" and "Solaris" than have seen "City Of Lost Children". And although "Strange Days" is a more well known film because of its release from the Hollywood machine, it bombed spectacularly when it first came out. Even though, I´m still always shocked when I mention the film to people and almost no one I´ve met has ever seen it. So I included them because I thought they somewhat fit the profile and I always like talking about either film whenever I get the chance. Glad you agree with me on their merits though.

Posted by: Tallsonofagun at August 25, 2007 5:21 AM

miyazaki is great great great, but i would advise to not watch the dubbed versions - they usually get adults to voice the main characters and it takes so much out of the films. especially with laputa aka castle in the sky: fucking james van der beek!??! uhhhh...makes me cringe just typing his name..
actually, i watched it for years without subtitles...you can still get the plot without understand a goddamn thing they're saying.

Posted by: mary at August 25, 2007 11:42 AM

miyazaki is great great great, but i would advise to not watch the dubbed versions - they usually get adults to voice the main characters and it takes so much out of the films. especially with laputa aka castle in the sky: fucking james van der beek!??! uhhhh...makes me cringe just typing his name..
actually, i watched it for years without subtitles...you can still get the plot without understand a goddamn thing they're saying.

Posted by: mary at August 25, 2007 11:43 AM

Another for the post-1986 list..

Gattaca. It wasn't the greatest movie and probably didn't impress very many Pajiba fans, but for me it was simple and quite good. In this movie genetic engineering of humans doesn't produce cannibalistic monsters or disrupt the equilibrium of the universe, it just creates another opportunity for peope to discrminiate against each other. The minority is the non-genetically engineered humans who have to fake a good genetic pedigree to get beyond menial labor (only people with perfectly programmed genomes can succeed in this world). It's not far-fetched or fantastic, and that's what made it memorable. Also, in what other movie are Ethan Hawke (still in his boyish good looks phase) and Uma Thurman going to be considered inferior genetic specimens?

Posted by: anna at August 25, 2007 7:25 PM

Happy to see Stalker up there.

I got to see it last summer at Anthology Film Archives. 3-5-m-m print, baby!

Hey Pajiba peoples, I'd love to see an official top 10 sci-fi films list (1990-present). I'm sure I'm not alone on that one.

Do we even have enough to make that list?

Posted by: DO at August 26, 2007 3:50 AM

Wow, i have seen almost any movie on that list.
Time to check out the ones i don't know. It's always a pleasure to experience something new.

Posted by: Arthur at August 26, 2007 3:35 PM

What, no Capricorn One? The director who later brought you the stunning 2010, Peter Hyams, and one of the few classics of O.J. Simpson?

*laughs maniacally*

I saw Capricorn One the same night I picked up Tartokovsky's Solaris. What an utter mind melt without pharmaceuticals.

Posted by: idiosynchronic at August 27, 2007 12:32 PM

Brazil? Hell yeah. I always tell those folks who were a bit surprised by De Niro in Stardust, to check out Brazil. Robert has range, y'all.

But I would like to add The City of Lost Children for consideration. While not wholy a sci-fi film (and also made in '95), it was a wonderful, wonderful film. Judith Vittet was exceptional, especially for a child (not to mention that she's absolutely beautiful).

Also, how about Metropolis?

Posted by: Nadha at August 27, 2007 8:19 PM

As soon as I saw the title, I knew The Quiet Earth would be on the list. It may not have aged well, but that doesn't matter: I saw it once, in 1987, and twenty years later I still vividly remember the climax, when we discover what's happened to the main (and nearly only) character; I even remember the music in that scene. Whatever flaws the movie has, those thirty seconds confer on the movie a kind of greatness (in my head, anyway).

Posted by: pyramus at August 27, 2007 11:16 PM

LOVE miyazaki! Nausicaa is so underappreciated.

Posted by: Jojomojo at August 28, 2007 5:26 AM

What about "The 13th Floor"?

Posted by: derekthered at August 28, 2007 6:51 PM

If The Quiet Earth were remade (in America) they would remove the all-important opening scene where Zac is lying on his bed full-frontally nude. This would be a totally wrong move to make as it is what set this flick apart from other post-apocalyptic flicks, which is probably why Danny Boyle did his homage to it in 28 Days Later via Cillian Murphy.

Posted by: Matt at August 28, 2007 8:54 PM

Mr Delano:
While I absolutely agree with you on Donnie Darko, I have to ask you: Can you please justify your claim that hackwork like The Matrix is better than Dark City?

Posted by: Samuel Erikson at August 29, 2007 5:50 PM

The graphic for the top ten at the top of the page...what movie is it from?

Dark City > The Matrix

The Matrix, the first one, the only one worth seeing was neato when it came out. The sequels are shite, horrible shite.

Posted by: WhoWhatWhere at August 29, 2007 10:25 PM

I love Hayao Miyazaki, but I am really, really sick of people talking about him as if he's the only great animation director in all of Japan.

Posted by: AD at August 30, 2007 1:39 AM

Ah, Strange Days. Such was my love of Ralph Fiennes, it burned with the passion of a thousand suns.

wow, that movie brings me back to the college years. we wore the movie out, my sister and I. Then we subjected all my friends to it and wondered why no one else got its brilliance.
I loved Angela Bassett in this movie, loved the fact that it was directed by a woman, loved loved loved the movie!

And hasn't at least one aspect of the movie come true, sorta? Aren't we all so much more addicted to technology, as it moves ever closer to allowing us to live in a virtual world. (I can say that as an avid WOW player, there are days I don't come up for air for 8-10 hours) Can't we see that we are just a few years away from wearing AI-pseudo-reality-mind-altering wigs?

Ultimately though, it was Angela Bassett (who for me was one of the first kick-ass female characters, before they became a staple in movies) that stole the show. I love the scene where she's fighting one of the henchmen and he suddenly points a gun at her head. W/o even blinking an eye, she purrs, "Your safety's on", and when he hesitates: BAM!!!

oi, I love me some tough chicks.

Posted by: Stella at September 4, 2007 3:55 PM

What's unfair is that Japanese animation is considered a genre at all. It is as diverse a collection of stories, styles, and concepts as any other form of art. Unfortunately for those who have yet to expand their horizons into the world of anime, it's all just a lot of Pokemon or High School girls with big destinies. Okay, so a lot of anime IS just that, but a lot of Hollywood is mindless action. So while I adore Miyazaki's stuff more than I loved Star Wars when I was five, I don't see the need for the underhanded slap at Japanese animation.

Posted by: Ari at September 5, 2007 9:42 PM

Interesting discussions and info here - admittedly only heard of La Jete reading the opening credits of 12 Monkeys which i've enjoyed repeatedly - i think Madeline Stowe is especially wonderful in that film.Gilliam's great but never been able to sit thru Brazil because yes it gets rather cold.
the rest i'll surely keep an eye out for
and i must also say that i hope The Fountain is a precursor of sci-fi films on the horizon - it was mind blowing and especially beautiful!

There's a really beautiful french film called Avalon(not the musical one)that i saw a few years ago - it take's place in an "matrix-like" alternate reality setting - not very well known- just a recommendation.

Posted by: JT at September 6, 2007 6:11 PM

oops, correction - Avalon is by Japanese director Mamoru Oshii and is in Polish(go figure).

Oh, and I rather liked the Solaris remake also but have yet to compare with the original.

Posted by: JT at September 7, 2007 3:50 PM

For underrated and little seen SF film try: "The Final Programe" 1973, "Demon Seed" 1977, "Looker" 1981, "Android" 1982, "Nirvana" 1997, "Cypher" 2002. All available on DVD

Posted by: Mart at September 22, 2007 1:19 PM

Also underrated and little seen: "Things To Come" 1936, "Dark Star" 1974, "Altered States" 1981, "Strange Invaders" 1983, "Communion" 1989, "The Arrival" 1996, "Code 46" 2004. Also all on DVD.

Posted by: Mart at September 22, 2007 2:04 PM

new film in the block the final equaton check out the imdb page or www.thefinalequationthemovie.com

Posted by: dan at September 30, 2007 10:22 PM

I thought I was a sci-fi fantasy buff but now I see I've got some viewing to do. I'm glad because I went to the video store on Friday and all I came up with was Winnie The Pooh for my five year old and Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix for me and my partner. Mind if I link to this post on my blog? That way, I'll be able to keep your list in view. darkdaughta

Posted by: darkdaughta at December 17, 2007 10:50 AM