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Tyler Perry Hates Black People

Tyler Perry’s The Family that Preys / Brian Prisco

Film Reviews | September 15, 2008 | Comments (80)


The wiser among Generation Douchebag lament the representation of their culture by the likes of Miley Cyrus and Lindsay Lohan. while the majority herald them with banners of “OMFG! U R SO KEWL!” and raise them on pedestals so they can get better upskirt shots. Hipsters were given the golden goddess of Diablo Cody to worship, and when the rest of America shone upon her, they tore her ironic leopard skin coat to tatters and ripped chunks of dyed black hair and stripper-tatted skin from her still-screaming corpse. Black America has chosen to receive Tyler Perry as their poet laureate and flood the tabernacles of the local theaters to sing his praises. He dons a Medea wig and spits in their faces, and they love him for it.

Tyler Perry has no respect for his audience, and it is obvious by the way he blatantly stereotypes them in his films. Since nobody minstrels about in hood rat gear, wearing bling, talking about bitches and busting caps, somehow black America feels comfortable accepting Perry’s rosy portrayal of their people. In Tyler Perry’s version of black America, all spouses are unfaithful. If a man doesn’t provide for his family, he’s not a man. If his wife calls him on that, it’s OK if he backhands her because it’s all about respect. It doesn’t matter what you say or do, just as long as you have faith in Jesus, you quote scripture, and then everything will work out. Black people aren’t allowed to be successful unless they are willing to be underhanded, manipulative, or shady. But it’s OK, because the only noble black person is a poor black person struggling to get ahead. And more likely than not, white people will save them.

That’s the sinister message that seems to be the forefront of Tyler Perry’s latest opus The Family That Preys. Tyler Perry is a fucking genius, there’s no two ways about it. He’s the male counterpart to Oprah Winfrey, and he’s learned how to play her game. Perry has already captured black America to his heart, and now he’s after the white conservative church-going folks. He knows most of his detractors are going to naysay him no matter what he puts forth, so he doesn’t even try to appeal to them. He knows his audience like the back of his hand. He doesn’t have to make exciting films. He just has to make the same film, over and over, and they’re going to line up. Now he needs to branch out, by appealing to the good people who go to church every Sunday, who understand the importance of conservative family values, who know a woman’s place is in the home, at her husband’s feet, and who understand that discipline comes at the end of a belt. His beacon of attraction is Kathy Bates.

For this feature, he’s chosen to replace Medea with Charlotte Cartwright, a rich white woman who rules over a construction empire. Charlotte is able to be both sassy and wild-spirited but also austere and vigilant. With one hand, she hugs while holding her special Sunday hat, and with the other, she can beat your ass with her iron fist. She is your archetypical southern aristocracy, and Kathy Bates embodies every fiber of her being. Balanced against her is Alice Pratt (Alfre Woodard), a matriarch in her own right, a noble black woman who owns a diner called “A Wing and a Prayer.” She bathes and feeds the poor, quotes scripture, and tries to mediate her two spirited daughters.

To craft a Tyler Perry movie, the recipe is very simple: Boil a Lifetime movie. Add five jokes that relate to black culture. They don’t even need to really be jokes per se. You can actually just mention black people, but not rappers. They need to be people like Morgan Freeman or Oprah Winfrey. Say Praise Jesus a lot and set two scenes in a church; one has to have a gospel choir. Make sure you give it a Hallmark-safe message. And you’ve got the top movie at the box office. It’s not that he’s a terrible filmmaker, so much as a lazy one. He doesn’t have to try, so why should he? He can slog through trite dialogue, tennis-balling close up shots in tense scenes, or having actors Shatner-enunciate their lines so you know they’re really serious. At this point, he’s a brand name like James Patterson or Nicholas Sparks. You know exactly what you’re going to get from the shiny labels on the packaging.

Perry decides to go for the drama. He comes from a playwriting background, so he knows if you stuff dreary messages down someone’s throat for a number of hours, you might as well put subtitles and Emily Mortimer in your film. Instead, he intersperses scenes of on-the-nose, heavy-handed proselytizing with scenes of ridiculousness. Usually this means somebody’s dancing or doing the cobra neck.

The movie opens with a wedding between Alice’s daughter Andrea (Sanaa Lathan) and her construction worker beau Chris (Rockmond Dunbar). They are getting married in the backyard of Charlotte’s palatial estate, mostly as a dig at her corporate nepotist son William (Cole Hauser) and his eloped bride Jill (KaDee Strickland). We cut to upstairs where Andrea is getting prepared with help from her sister, Pam (Taraji P. Henson). Andrea is pissed she has to play step and fetch for the white lady to feel like Mammy (I’m not racist — this is actual dialogue from the movie) while lamenting the fact Charlotte didn’t pay for a new wedding dress. Pam is disgusted with her sister’s greed, which pretty much stay their characters for the rest of the movie. That’s the beauty of Tyler Perry’s characters: they might as well have Smurf names like Greedy and Sleazy. Meanwhile, Chris is expressing his concern to Ben, Pam’s husband, who’s played by Tyler Perry. This movie may have been a giant actor’s real attempt to show that Tyler Perry can play a part other than Medea. Instead of a dress, he decides to wear a bicycle helmet covered with Brillo pads and spends the entire movie talking in a sultry monotone as the voice of reason. There is no wedding scene, we just cut immediately to the reception where William blatantly hits on Andrea in front of her new husband, delivering the line, “I’m sure we can find a position for you.” If this was a porno, a pizza boy and plumber would be running a train on a nurse.

The rest of the movie occurs four years later. Chris and Ben work for Cartwright Construction as grunts, but Chris wants to open his own construction company (his Smurf name is Big Plans). Ben just wants to stay the course. He’s got a steady job and a happy home, and that’s good enough for him. Andrea works for William Cartwright, who’s trying to become CEO of his mother’s company. Chris wants to ask William to invest in his new venture, but Andrea doesn’t want him to bother William. Andrea, who thought it beneath her to accept handouts from white people, is perfectly willing to take William’s position, which is predictably underneath him in a hotel bed. Andrea belittles Chris because she’s the breadwinner in the family, but at the same time she won’t help him get ahead in his own business ventures. Andrea’s got a secret bank account she’s been filling with gifts from William. Pam is pissed at Andrea because she’s been babysitting Andrea’s son at their mother’s diner, and Andrea won’t pay either of them a dime. She’s successful while they struggle. Pam wants her husband to make more of himself and join with Chris, but Ben just wants to sit down and not rock the boat.

Turning this into a bad episode of Dallas, Charlotte goes behind her son’s back and hires Abby (Robin Givens), a successful businesswoman, to act in her interests as COO of the company. Robin Givens’ role in the movie is to deliver one speech berating Andrea for being a sister who gives hardworking sisters a bad name, then acting as Vanna White with a Peter Petrelli smirk to Charlotte’s deus ex machina machinations. Other than that, Charlotte’s got an entire peripheral plot where she and Alice decide to drive cross-country in an old convertible as comic relief to the rest of the dreary weak soap opera subplot. It’s your typical odd couple road trip so Tyler Perry can make his requisite five-black-people references. Charlotte wants to drink hurricanes in New Orleans so they can make a left-handed Katrina joke. Alice drinks only water. Charlotte wants to go drink tequila shots in a country western bar and dance with pure breed, white cowboys. Alice makes Charlotte get a baptism in a river in the middle of nowhere with a conveniently placed Baptist reverend and choir. Charlotte wants to go to a strip club. Alice throws holy water on a stripper and tries to beat another one with a bible. At one point, I leaned over to my girlfriend and asked, “I wonder what she’s dying of.” The answer turned out to be early on-set Alzheimer’s.

The rest of the movie progresses to an expected and utterly cliched finale, showing just how little Tyler Perry thinks of black people in general. But why should he, when black audiences LOVE the slurry he’s feeding them? During one climactic scene, Andrea dresses Chris down in front of crowded diner. She tells him she’s been get jackhammered for years, how he can’t support her, and that he’s not a man. Chris’s response is to backhand Andrea so hard she actually flies over the lunch counter and smashes into the wall. In front of her sister and mother. And a diner full of people. And the audience at the screening I was at APPLAUDED. Black people can settle their women with a strong hand. That’s how you respect a black woman. You pimp slap her like the fucking Hulk.

Even more disturbing is the subtle undertones of Perry’s underlying message, which seems to be black people cannot be successful without the help of white people and they should know their place. The most sympathetic and level-headed character might be Ben, whose entire attitude is to never have ambition and to stay working blue collar, even when he’s more than qualified. Of the career-minded black characters, we’ve got Andrea, who essentially fucked her way to her current position and ends up cuckolded and begging for her man back. Or there’s Abby, who only gets her position at the company because of the kindness of Charlotte’s black-loving heart. Charlotte is never nice to a single white character in the movie because she expects a certain ruthlessness out of them. When white people show emotion, they’re weak, as is the case with Jill, Williams’ beleaguered wife. Of the black women, Charlotte loves them because they amuse her with their spunk. Abby is eminently qualified, she worked hard, and Charlotte hires her to essentially act as her henchperson. And Alice turns out to be a millionaire, but the only reason this happens is because she invested in Charlotte’s company at the behest of a white man she had been helping. Meanwhile, Perry wants us to cheer at the end for Chris, who stole his wife’s money and slapped her.

The Family That Preys has been called Tyler Perry’s best movie, but that’s a little like being the prettiest girl in the flag corp. The man’s a brilliant filmmaker, in that he gives his fans what they want or rather what they think they deserve. He’s like Taco Bell. It’s not great, but it’s a safe bet, you know what you’re going to get each time, but don’t be surprised at the indigestion the next day. There are plenty of black artists out there, like Aaron McGruder and F. Gary Grey making interesting films, doing quality work, but nobody’s buying their wares. Instead, Tyler Perry makes millions by making a mockery of his own people, telling them they should be proud to not have ambition, and it’s okay to beat their wives and sleep around. He has the audacity to act as if he’s the sole conduit for the voice of Black America. As long as they are willing to accept it, he’ll never be stopped. Because a brother’s gotta get paid, son.

Brian Prisco is a warrior-poet from the valley of North Hollywood, by way of Philadelphia. He wastes most of his life in desk jobs, biding his time until he finally becomes an actor, a writer, or cannon fodder in the inevitable zombie invasion. He can be found shaking his fist and angrily shouting at clouds on his blog, The Gospel According to Prisco.


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Comments

Great review/commentary. Taco Bell, ha!

Posted by: gelis at September 15, 2008 2:01 PM

urg, arg! Saw him on Oprah the other day, (sorry I don't have the hate for O as most do) and I had SUCH a hard time not throwing the remote at the tv. Poor Jill Scott was utterly ignored on that panel.

but, glad to see you mentioned some other black filmmakers who are out there. When I saw the previews of this, I thought, why do I not see any Spike Lee movies out, Whatever happened to John Singleton?

Also. For the record. If my husband ever raised a hand to me, sweet Baby Jesus, there would be no words to describe the amount of carnage and destruction that would ensue.

Posted by: Stella at September 15, 2008 2:04 PM

You know, you don't have to do this to yourself anymore. We understand that every single movie with the words 'Tyler Perry' attached to it is going to blow. Why put yourself through this suffering any longer? Here, have a hug and a drink.

Posted by: Kris at September 15, 2008 2:13 PM

Racist motherfucker.

Posted by: TK at September 15, 2008 2:15 PM

I've learned to beware of anyone who announces "I'm not racist" as a caveat to their pontifications. That statement frequently arises right before something significantly foolish comes out their mouth. (Or in this case, computer.)
In this case, it's your insistence that A) Only black people go see TP's films, and B) that all black people love them. I know a substantial number of white people who see TP's films and enjoy them. Of course, these are in many cases white people who have a similiar fondest for the "Ernest goes to..." films and keep the Blue Collar comedy tour on the road. But see these films, they do.
As for Black America, it is not a monolith. There are as many black film goers who disdain everything TP touches and wouldn't be caught near TBS when "House of Payne" is on. Conversely, the TP enthusiasts can't be dragged to a Spike Lee film, for love or money. Any then there are black folks who like Woody Allen. Not vintage Woody Allen, but "Scoop" Woody Allen. Their black cards will be revoked as they are found out.

In short, you've made some seriously misguided statements about the community, which rely on as many stereotypes as Tyler Perry. I'm not calling you a racist, but you could get out more.

BTW, TP's films do suck, but race has almost nothing to do with it.

Posted by: khia213 at September 15, 2008 2:18 PM

You people are out of your minds.

Posted by: rebekka at September 15, 2008 2:18 PM

...little like being the prettiest girl in the flag corp...

Uh, I don't know where you went to high school, but at my school we had a pretty high proportion of hot girls on flag line. The fact that I was on the flag line has no bearing on my feelings in this matter. Check yourself.

And I have no intention of seeing this movie.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at September 15, 2008 2:24 PM

Actually, Perry knows his audience love the back of his hand.

Posted by: firedmyass at September 15, 2008 2:27 PM

Hey gang! Michael Bay here!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAW! Take that Perry! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA...

Brilliant Prisco! Who do I make the check out to? Pajiba, or to you directly?

Posted by: Michael Bay at September 15, 2008 2:34 PM

...and anyone seriously tossing "racist" or "invoking stereotypes" at Pisco needs to chill the fuck out. No one with an ounce of perception would get the idea that BP thinks "...all black people love (Perry's films)" or even implied that in his review.

When he's talking about Perry's "audience," he's obviously sifting the mean -- not sweeping all the goes-without-saying outliers into the same ugly bin.

Posted by: firedmyass at September 15, 2008 2:42 PM

Firedmyass,

"Perry has already captured black America..."

"Black America has chosen to receive Tyler Perry as it's poet laureate..."

Do those phrases overgeneralize much? What he meant to do and what he he actually wrote, are two different things.

Posted by: khia213 at September 15, 2008 2:48 PM

And you don't think that assuming that he literally meant every single black person is a generalization?

Huh.

Posted by: I Love Beets at September 15, 2008 2:52 PM

So...when did Cathy Bates turn into Miss Daisy? (I'm looking at the picture) And how come Morgan Freeman's got boobs?

Also, I used to love Cole Hauser. Now I think he's gained some weight.

Posted by: Ava at September 15, 2008 2:54 PM

dammit. Kathy Bates.

There's a "K" in there.

Posted by: Ava at September 15, 2008 2:55 PM

khia213: While I still maintain that within the context of the entire review (and the site) his intent is evident, I grudgingly concede that you may have a point.

This is nigh unprecedented for me.

AND, I misspelled Brian's name in my last post.

Dammit.

Posted by: firedmyass at September 15, 2008 2:58 PM

Ilovebeets,

Nope. If he said White America, I would assume he meant the majority, and he can't even vouch for that.

Posted by: khia213 at September 15, 2008 2:59 PM

Firedmyass,

I graciously accept you acknowledgment.

Posted by: khia213 at September 15, 2008 3:01 PM

dammit.

I was really looking forward to a 300-comment thread on whether or not Prisco is a big ugly racist.

oh, well. Maybe next time.

Posted by: Estelle at September 15, 2008 3:02 PM

I like the Cosbys. Wotta wacky group they are! And that Rudy? ADORABLE! More please!

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at September 15, 2008 3:19 PM

Don't insult taco bell.

Posted by: Haystacks at September 15, 2008 3:49 PM

When I want to learn about black culture in america, black directors, and the relationship between the two; I go to pretentious white film critics.

Posted by: Farthammer at September 15, 2008 3:53 PM

I was really looking forward to a 300-comment thread on whether or not Prisco is a big ugly racist.

Not to worry, Estelle. I know juuuuust what to do...

*ahem* [megaphone] BRIAN PRISCO IS A MISOGYNIST! [/megaphone]

Well, that oughta do it.

Posted by: Shay at September 15, 2008 4:19 PM

"Black people aren't allowed to be successful unless they are willing to be underhanded, manipulative, or shady. But it's OK, because the only noble black person is a poor black person struggling to get ahead. And more likely than not, white people will save them." (etc.)

...Or maybe it's a melodramatic movie about CHARACTERS, not walking statements about race relations in America.

Posted by: Gordon at September 15, 2008 4:19 PM

God Prisco, I want to be you. I want to be inside you. And I feel like I should be paying you royalties for all the times I use your material as my own. The flag corp one is a gimme.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at September 15, 2008 4:34 PM

Yeah, fuck you for the flag corp comment.

Posted by: Grrr at September 15, 2008 4:38 PM

What the fuck is a flag corp, anyway?

Posted by: TK at September 15, 2008 4:40 PM

I'd judge Tyler Perry more harshly if I didn't know he was doing exactly what most other filmmakers do: make movies that people will pay to see rather than really good movies that won't make as much money. That doesn't make his movies good or render criticism of them unnecessary or wrong, but just sayin'. Everything you say about a Tyler Perry movie, you could say about damn near every "rom/com" or "action movie" or "comedy." His just has black characters. I don't think his endeavor is cynical, I think he's just like most people in that he's creating "drama" (ie, fighting, screwing around, etc.). His movies are basically soap operas with a majority black cast and a few token white people. I don't begrudge him his success. I haven't contributed to it by paying to see his movies, but I've caught a few on cable. I can see the appeal. I'd still rather watch one of his movies than one by an Ephron. I guess if anyone's gonna make money stereotyping black people, better it be a black person than a white person.

Posted by: Slash at September 15, 2008 4:43 PM

Yeah, I figure we're all a little racist at some level, whether we admit it or not, so prefacing your statements with "I'm not racist" seems like a moot point. As for Tyler Perry, I completely agree that his films seem like the same thing over and over again. Operating under the assumption that black is funny because black is funny doesn't make a lot of sense to me, maybe less sense than why you people are getting so fired up. "Huh! Whatchu mean you people?" "What do you mean you people" "Huh!"

Posted by: Django at September 15, 2008 4:55 PM

If 'Flag Corp' is anything like 'Dance Team' was at my high school, it is where the fat girls who couldn't make the cut for cheerleader end up to get their dance on. Flags factored heavily into the routines. For what reason, I know not.

And yes, I am willing to concede that my high school's team was probably a very poor representation, and other school's teams were scorching hot, particularly Genny's.

Posted by: Lindsey at September 15, 2008 5:05 PM

The kids in flag corps at my school weren't fat or ugly, but they were pretty much band kids who couldn't play an instrument. They didn't dance so much as lurch about in unison. When they threw the flags, they tended to hit either themselves or each other. Our football team also suuuuuucked. It was like the Thriller video every damn day on the football field at my high school.

Posted by: Sarina at September 15, 2008 5:19 PM

Im just glad we all love Robert Rodriguez , cause pesonally i just dont have it in me to start a race war in this bitch .

Posted by: gilp at September 15, 2008 5:40 PM

Readers...I walked out.

Posted by: shiningstar at September 15, 2008 7:02 PM

Tyler Perry makes me want to kiss Spike Lee on the mouth. And Spike works my last remaining nerve on many occasions.

Please review Spike's movie("Miracle at St Anna") when it comes out.

And please skip the next Tyler Perry.

Posted by: greer at September 15, 2008 7:23 PM

Tyler Perry is just another in a long line of hack directors (Paul Haggis, Michael Bay, I'm looking at you) who cry to the high heavens that they have a MESSAGE and they are IMPORTANT and they are showing you SOMETHING NEW AND DEEP; Haggis has "deep human connections", Bay has his own brand of super patriotism, Tyler has Black People.

Like you said in the review, he's found the perfect formula, and he has hoodwinked a huge audience into believing that he's representing them; if you say it loud enough, they'll come and watch without thinking too deeply about what they're seeing, and they'll buy your cheap Hallmark card message. I think he's a hack and a shitty writer, but this goes for a myriad of other directors as well. Outing Perry as one doesn't make you a racist, it just makes you unlikeable to people who don't want to think too deeply about things. It's too much of a bother. Calling you a racist is just the easiest way out.

Posted by: figgylicious at September 15, 2008 7:39 PM

"And please skip the next Tyler Perry."

Where's the fun in that?

Posted by: TK at September 15, 2008 7:40 PM

Hey, I didn't say they were ugly. Just too fat to be cheerleaders, but still wanted to dance in tight clothes in public. I was too fat to be a cheerleader too, but had no desire to gyrate or fling flags about publicly. It just dawned on me that Flag Corps may be a part of marching band, so if Dance Team and Flag Corps are in no way related, well, fuck me. Shows you what I know.

Posted by: Lindsey at September 15, 2008 7:46 PM

No Mr. Briso,

Tyler Perry doesn't hate black people.
George Bush hates black people.

So it should be Tyler Perry's George Bush hates black people.
or something to that effect.

Posted by: Chuck at September 15, 2008 7:57 PM

I got all heated up there for a moment, cause here in the midwest it's called Color Guard.

No, I don't know what they're guarding. All I know is that there was usually one really really fat girl who tried the best to fit into the purposefully skimpy outfits that those whores squeezed in to.

My sister was captain.

Tyler Perry is just another in a long line of hack directors (Paul Haggis, Michael Bay, I'm looking at you) who cry to the high heavens that they have a MESSAGE and they are IMPORTANT and they are showing you SOMETHING NEW AND DEEP; Haggis has "deep human connections", Bay has his own brand of super patriotism, Tyler has Black People.

I'm suddenly reminded of the scene in South Park: Imaginationland where the US Government brings in celebrities for ideas on how to stop terrorists from using their imaginations against themselves. Bay's answer goes along the lines of:

Bay: "BWAAA! AND THEN CRAWWWW! AND THEN A HELICOPTER SMASSSHHHHH! BAM! BAM! SUPER SEMI ROLLS OVER AND GOES BWWWAAA!"

US Military: "Those aren't ideas, they're special effects."

Bay: "...I don't understand the difference."

US Military: "We know."

Posted by: Jaci at September 15, 2008 8:04 PM

I'm black. I won't see this movie because Tyler Perry is a walking-talking minstrel show.

Not even the majority of black people go and see his movies, white people go and see his movies. Maybe because they like seeing black people act like idiots and ruining their own lives. I really have no idea.

I have friends (not black) who go and see these silly pieces of shit and tell me that the audiences (in Los Angeles and Oakland) are mostly white.

I would make a suggestion to you,as you are a white person, to stay away from making sweeping generalizations about black people, be they negative or positive.

Posted by: NotBlonde at September 15, 2008 8:17 PM

Why was I under the impression that Pookie would finally get his chance at writing a review with this one. These movies are right up his alley aren't they?

Posted by: Dexter Morgan at September 15, 2008 8:38 PM

Whoa, Dex. As much as I love your namesake I must disagree with your sentiment. Pookie has as much hate for Tyler Perry as any man. As we all know, He is a Yale man.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at September 15, 2008 9:51 PM

I'm racist to the point I don't discriminate who I am racist against. I lock the car doors when I see every person coming. I actually saw this movie, so that puts me about 90% more qualified to call Mr. Prisco names than of most of you yahoos on here yelling, "the racist is generalizing, the racist is generalizing." After seeing this movie, the white person in me felt every stereotype I'd learned about black people just got justified by the reactions of the black people in the audience. The black person in me was appalled that this piece of crap is what all of my white friends will base their perceptions of my culture on. If the goal is equality, this movie is not moving anyone ahead.

Posted by: The Land Snark at September 15, 2008 9:55 PM

Dexter,

I liked Brian's review & most likely believe he's pretty dead-on, but of course I myself will never see this, and I'm with you on your comment: I would have loved to have read Pookie's reaction, and description of this (maybe he'll post before I finish this, or he's just waiting for the proper time);

And presenting a male or (prob'ly more interesting) female African-American's review and perspective on new releases targeted towards their very culture (stereotypes included) could have gone a long way in boosting the already-cemented cred the Pajiba staff has given us.

I think we saw some excellent examples of great critiquing of a 'black female oriented' film posted by just a few excellent commenters above -how about utilizing their talents for future AA-themed films such as this?

Posted by: TMax at September 15, 2008 9:58 PM

Jaci: HAAA! Michael Bay's a douche.

NotBlonde: I'm completely sure you're right--black people aren't the only ones watching this type of crap. The box office numbers suggest the audience consists mostly of Stupid People Who Will Watch Anything If It's Hyped Enough (the group responsible for 90% of box office toppers.) And maybe lots of white people who really think Tyler Perry will tell them what black people are like, because the hype tells them so.

Conclusion: Stupid people will watch anything. And I always want to kick them in the head.

Posted by: figgylicious at September 15, 2008 10:36 PM

My heritage is 1/4 German, 1/4 Irish, 3/8 African, 1/8 Cherokee, 17/16 Smartass. My Equal Irritation Opportunity policy allows me to hate everyone based on their own lack of merit. Prisco is not a racist, he's simply borrowed my personal philosophy. Now can't we all just agree to dismember Tyler Perry and have done with it?

Posted by: Kris at September 16, 2008 1:27 AM

I dunno what to make of this review. Which is fitting, because I dunno what to make of Tyler Perry.

For now, I'll take refuge in the fact that his initials are the same as Toilet Paper.

Posted by: Ciji at September 16, 2008 1:31 AM

Why the fuck does this dicklicker feel the need to put his name in front of all of his movies?

Oh, I forgot. He's a fucking egomaniac. Sorry.

Posted by: RAT at September 16, 2008 1:43 AM


Whatever else may be said, the Smurf names made this review for me.

Posted by: karstark at September 16, 2008 2:12 AM

I hate Tyler Perry. So much.

Thank you for explaining just why that is. Hopefully more people can somehow get the message as to just how insulting his perception of Black people is. I can't believe he has fans. I just can't. How?!


PS:
People, Did you all somehow miss the intro? It pretty stages what Prisco means by "Black america". In the intro to the review, he mentions how the majority of kids across the nation LOOOVE OMG LOOVE Miley Cyrus and co, while mentioning that there are wiser people who hate them. Clearly, he's drawing that same comparison: Much of Black america loves Tyler Perry movies, while intelligent, "wiser" members of that community see and understand it as the BS it really is.

Posted by: Anon at September 16, 2008 6:55 AM

And I always want to kick them in the head.

I somehow read this as "lick them in the head" when quickly glancing through the comments this morning. Clearly, I need some coffee. And delicious, nutritious oatmeal.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at September 16, 2008 8:41 AM

Any discussion of Tyler Perry usually sends me into a spittle-spraying rant, but I'm not going to bother. Instead I'll just say that Tyler Perry is proof that the Klan isn't wrong about everything.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at September 16, 2008 9:34 AM

Before the lights turn off up in here, can someone go to Tracer Bullet's house and kick a damn fool in the neck?

Or I'll go if it lives near Arkansas.

Posted by: firedmyass at September 16, 2008 10:09 AM

Tracer--That's not funny. Not in the slightest.

Posted by: tamatha at September 16, 2008 10:19 AM

A little trivia --

Tyler Perry's homosexuality is an open secret in the Atlanta film community. I'm not sure if this means anything for how his films are interpreted, but I think it's interesting that he panders to the kind of audiences that would probably denounce his "sinful" lifestyle -- maybe he really is mocking them?

Posted by: Jen at September 16, 2008 11:46 AM

Another bit of trivia --

"At the request of director J.J. Abrams[15], Perry will also have a cameo appearance in the movie Star Trek, which will open on May 8, 2009. This will be his first movie outside that is not his own project."

Who can't wait to see TP in Star Trek??

Posted by: JR at September 16, 2008 12:00 PM

Who's laughing? Hell, I'll pony up to send Perry to Africa right now provided he promises to never come back.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at September 16, 2008 2:07 PM

A little trivia --
"Tyler Perry's homosexuality is an open secret in the Atlanta film community. I'm not sure if this means anything for how his films are interpreted, but I think it's interesting that he panders to the kind of audiences that would probably denounce his "sinful" lifestyle -- maybe he really is mocking them"

Jen


You're kidding Jen, right? Cause it was black folks who passed legislation that prohibited gays from getting married, and it is blacks who at times picket and blow up abortion clinics. And on those rare occasion when we really mean business, we will bust a cap in one of those evil abortion doctors asses. And please don't get me started on those preachers, the ones who denounce "sinful" lifestyles, Haggard ( gay basher, and part time meth head), Farwell ( Katrina was a sign from god). Lets not throw stones honey.

Posted by: Pookie at September 16, 2008 2:12 PM

Pookie:

Sorry, should have clarified who I meant -- to quote from the review:

"...the good people who go to church every Sunday, who understand the importance of conservative family values, who know a woman's place is in the home, at her husband's feet, and who understand that discipline comes at the end of a belt."

I believe that description fits people of multiple skin colors.

Also, nobody gets to call me "honey" who isn't a 60 year old Waffle House waitress -- to broadly generalize.

Posted by: Jen at September 16, 2008 2:28 PM

Pookie: Also, black evangelicals (who were the base upon which Perry initially built his horrible fucking empire) tend to be not-so-thrilled with homosexuality.

They don't usually make a big overt deal of it politically, given the queasy irony of opposing civil rights for a marginalized segment of society.

Posted by: firedmyass at September 16, 2008 3:15 PM

Jen, everyone knows that discipline comes from the end of a belt. I was dating this young hottie for a while, all of a sudden one day she asks me to buy her a watch, I said to her " a watch, what do you need a watch for, there's a clock on the stove. I apologize for calling you honey, Jen.

Posted by: Pookie at September 16, 2008 3:16 PM

Anna : .........ohboy.

Now I need a stiff drink to get that mental image out of my head.

Posted by: figgylicious at September 16, 2008 4:49 PM

I feel so hurt right now. All the effort I put into mocking the man, and everybody wants to hear from goddamn Pookie.

You all suck.

Chris's response is to backhand Andrea so hard she actually flies over the lunch counter and smashes into the wall. In front of her sister and mother. And a diner full of people. And the audience at the screening I was at APPLAUDED. Black people can settle their women with a strong hand. That's how you respect a black woman. You pimp slap her like the fucking Hulk.

Okay, three things,

1) Maybe by that point, the audience were happy SOMEBODY involved in this film got knocked the fuck out. Perhaps?

2) The folks saying Prisco is overgeneralizing: I don't know about your town, but here in the Tyler Perry All-The-Time Lovefest (aka Atlanta, Ga), You can't sneeze without hitting someone of the darker persuasion singing the man's praises. In fact, Perry and his supporters open the door to such uses of "black America" whenever they go on promoting his movies. As I have reiterated before, the majority of his defenders (at least teh public ones) are black, and often use the race card as the primary defense i.e. "you just don't get it because you are not black". Perry himself has often said his movies represent African-Americans as a segment rarely covered in film.

So once again I ask: How is it that Perry and his supporters can say "It's a black thing" as their defense, but a critic can't repeat it?

(I hope that stirred the pot well enough. Ingrates.)

3) Yes, I am still mad about not being mentioned. Also, Since Perry is so intent on this formula (which I pointed out, thank you), the best thing you can do for him is jack him in the street, steal everything in his home, and quite possibly kneecap him real quick. Hurry up; he is a near billionaire now, so that has GOT to be corrupting his pure black Christian soul right fierce.

Posted by: Vermillion at September 16, 2008 5:40 PM

I work in a school, and was talking with an eleven year old boy about what he did that weekend. He answered, "I went to see the Tyler Perry movie." I asked him how it was, and he replied, "It was- bad. It was boring and hard to believe."

Eleven years old.

Kids are great.

Posted by: thomas at September 16, 2008 7:21 PM

V, the reason everybody wants to hear from me is because, every now and again white folk like to hear from the brothers out in the field.

Posted by: Pookie at September 16, 2008 7:23 PM

Round 1, Pookie...

Posted by: Dexter Morgan at September 16, 2008 10:20 PM

I used to wake up at three in the morning in college and hear Tyler Perry plays (the ones involving Medea) playing in the background. I found out later my roommate was on crystal meth. Enought said.

Posted by: Raye Raye at September 16, 2008 11:50 PM

Vermillion), I'm gonna usurp your black ass, only 'cuz you left it hangin' out.

That's the beauty of Tyler Perry's characters: they might as well have Smurf names like Greedy and Sleazy.

This is the best line in the whole review, and you all let it sit like asthmatic pigs on a truffle hunt.

Black is the new blue.

Posted by: Che Grovera at September 17, 2008 12:21 AM

i'm late as shit, i just got back from a 3rd world country. But I gotta say, Bravo on this post.

Posted by: ms shai at September 17, 2008 1:21 PM

i remember my first encounter with a tyler perry movie like a holocaust survivor would recall auschwitz. i was sad and angry and the only thing that would give me peace was the knowledge that no just god would allow something so horrible to ever happen again. and that's how i found out that there is no god :(

Posted by: smatt584 at September 18, 2008 2:14 AM

Smatt584, you equate the almost total annihilation of a group of people at the hands of a madman to going to see a Tyler Perry movie? It has now been confirmed, and let the record reflect that on September 18, 2008 you have been judged and found to be a complete asshole.

Posted by: Pookie at September 18, 2008 8:09 AM

I don't give a fudgsicle if this movie has white or black characters, but any movie, ANY, where a man beats the shit out of his wife, takes her money, ill gotten or no, and is considered the HERO, makes me sick.

Question I have, if mister big man so freaking smart he wants to run his own company, how come he doesnt notice that his wife is cheating on him? My bet is that deep down he knew it, knew she was getting paid for it, and knew he could get the money eventually.

I was forced to see this movie with friends. We are all mixed race (wont tell you which ones though!). The men liked it, the women hated it. I bet Sarah Palin would have loved it

Posted by: frogirl1978 at September 18, 2008 1:05 PM

Sorry Pookie, ever generation has it's own tragedy to deal with :( :(

Posted by: smatt584 at September 19, 2008 3:43 AM

Tyler Perry's movies are all good. He is one writer/producer who shows blacks as successful people and not pimps and gangsters. I am tired of watching movies where a white person sticks their neck out to save a black person (based on a true story movie). Yeh, whatever!!! This movie a black woman helped a white man out and he got his life back.

Tyler also portrayed a good, supportive, hard-working black man with a dream not a cheating no good dog like in other movies. Yes, he slapped his wife and I don't support violence but sometimes it happens. It's not right but it happens.

Tyler also showed Robin Givens character in a good light she worked her way to the top giving young girls a role model. We have seen to many women in other movies like Sanaa Lathan's character sleeping their way to the top.

So I must say to the rest of you all with much respect FUCK YOU!!!

If you make good quality movies with successful hardworking blacks being portrayed, we black folks will go see it. Tyler keep doing what you do!!!

Posted by: Tania at September 20, 2008 10:29 PM

Tyler Perry's movies are all good. He is one writer/producer who shows blacks as successful people and not pimps and gangsters. I am tired of watching movies where a white person sticks their neck out to save a black person (based on a true story movie). Yeh, whatever!!! This movie a black woman helped a white man out and he got his life back.

Tyler also portrayed a good, supportive, hard-working black man with a dream not a cheating no good dog like in other movies. Yes, he slapped his wife and I don't support violence but sometimes it happens. It's not right but it happens.

Tyler also showed Robin Givens character in a good light she worked her way to the top giving young girls a role model. We have seen to many women in other movies like Sanaa Lathan's character sleeping their way to the top.

So I must say to the rest of you all with much respect FUCK YOU!!!

If you make good quality movies with successful hardworking blacks being portrayed, we black folks will go see it. Tyler keep doing what you do!!!

Posted by: Tania at September 20, 2008 10:29 PM

My movie going partner keeps dragging me to see Perry's movies. After "The Family That Preys" I told her she would have to attend them alone. I cannot for the life of me understand why there would be a single Black person in his audience.

I find Perry's movies to be misogynistic, pandering, disrespectful and utterly simplistic. His prevailing and relentless theme of the well-to-do, educated Black person as evil (the whore) and the poor, undereducated though hard-working Black person as good (the Madonna) is totally regressive and self-loathing. I swear, if Perry had his way there would never be another Black CEO, scientist, doctor, attorney, hell mid-level manager in America unless it was at the behest of a white person.

All Black folk don't go to church, all Black men don't beat their wives even if she is a bitch, all the "good" brothers are not blue-collar workers and all educated Black people are not the devil.

I know our people are tired of being represented in film as thugs, gang-bangers, pimps, hoes, hood rats, baby mamas, basically the pathological criminalization of an entire people but does the alternative have to be this perfumed and prettied-up whore of a minstrel show?

Posted by: allheavens at September 22, 2008 5:41 PM

1. Tyler Perry sucks. On the other hand, we have "Cloverfield," where ONLY huge black men loot electronics stores in times of crisis, or "Requiem for a Dream/Traffic" where the lowest point of the downward spiral of the innocent white girl's character arc is sex with or at the behest of a black man -- which goes completely unremarked in the blogosphere. That better? And don't get me started on "Darjeeling Limited. (And in the land of Apatow and company, women are either irrational harridans or outright space aliens tormenting innocent hapless men, but these are works of genius.) Show me alternatives, and I'll go and see 'em. In the meantime I'll continue to watch Korean soap operas.

2. Perhaps the good folk at Pajiba might do well to remember that while "black" is a race, "African American" is an ethnicity, and employ the terms appropriately. I, for example, belong to one group and not the other, and find the constant lumping-in annoying.

3. Gotta admire Perry for working his way up from homelessness. Don't gotta give him my money, though.

4. Otherwise I'm pretty much in favor of this review from beginning to end, which is REALLY pissing me off.

The title of the review, especially, has a disturbing ring of truth to it. After all, the worst part of oppression is the internalization of what garbage the mainstream insults you with. Perry and his audiences seem to have internalized. Remember Malcolm X, guys: "Who taught you to hate yourself?" (And then, you know, STOP DOING IT.)

Posted by: Mac at September 23, 2008 3:32 PM

I had to stop and look up "running a train" on urbandictionary.com. very amusing. also, the Smurf comment was a winner. i suggest you somehow manage to get Brother Perry to read this review himself.

Posted by: Christy at September 27, 2008 8:21 AM

to quote, "Tyler Perry's version of black America, all spouses are unfaithful. If a man doesn't provide for his family, he's not a man. If his wife calls him on that, it's OK if he backhands her because it's all about respect."

isn't this the basis of all movies? i submit we should say that all writers, producers, directors have lost respect for their audience.

Posted by: DryerBuzz at December 7, 2008 2:55 PM

the movies are only on 1000 screens. surely not all of black america watches tyler perry movies.

Posted by: DryerBuzz at December 7, 2008 2:57 PM

ok the smurf names were too funny.

Posted by: Sistory/DryerBuzz at December 7, 2008 3:03 PM





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