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Twilight / Dustin Rowles

Film Reviews | November 24, 2008 | Comments (232)


You ever find yourself half awake at 1 a.m. on a Friday night conducting one last round of channel flipping before heading to bed and landing on one of those horrible blind-date shows where the producers find some sick enjoyment out of connecting an empty-headed Miami beach hardbody with an overweight bookworm, just to see how it plays out? You hate the contestants, you loathe the host, there’s absolutely nothing entertaining about the show, but before each commercial, they tease the one nugget of interest coming up, and you find yourself an hour later — bleary-eyed, mouth agape, and bored — still waiting for something to happen. And the more time you contribute to it, the more you need the satisfaction promised by all those “coming up on” teasers. But it never comes. It never will. But you’ll sit there anyway, until the marathon has run its course, and you’ll go to bed hating yourself.

That’s Twilight. It’s intoxicating. And I don’t mean that as a compliment. It’s intoxicating like convenience-store malt liquor — you get a hangover before you’re even drunk. It’s addictive. Like crack cocaine, only you don’t get to experience the high, you just skip straight ahead to the blackout and wake up in a stranger’s bed with a matchbox car six inches deep into your rectum. But you can’t turn away. There’s nothing you want more than to get up and walk out, but you’re drawn in — like a moth to an industrial-sized fan — stuck wriggling helplessly in your seat, knowing that your body is slowly being dissected by a crushing tedium. Twilight is train-wreck theater, only the promise of a derailment, carnage, and mass dismemberment never comes to fruition. The train chugs along slowly toward a cliff with no rails, but the cliff never arrives.

It’s also a stupid movie. Unrelentingly stupid. It’s a Spanish soap opera without the accents crossed with a sexless porn movie where all the actors are petulant little bitches. We’ve already had a high-school set vampire movie, goddamnit. It was called Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and it featured Kristy Swanson, Luke Perry, a killer Toad the Wet Sprocket tune, and a prom crashed by bloodsuckers. It was awesome. Twilight has nothing on Buffy. It’s a vampire movie written by a romance novelist, which means that all the vampire lore is thrown out of the casket and replaced with cloying sentimentality and insipid gushiness delivered breathlessly by twats. “Oh, Edward! I’d rather die than stay away from you!” Oh, do, please.

Bella Swan (Kristen Stewart) is junior, who just moved from Arizona to rural Washington state, where it’s always rainy and gloomy. She’s the “suffer-in-silence” type, but immediately befriends a group of relatively obnoxious friends, typical high-schoolers who gush over prom and natter over crushes. They’re not important. They’re introduced and quickly fade into the background of the story (which is almost a shame, since Anna Kendrick is the one talented actress among the younger cast members). Enter Edward Cullen, a pasty bedhead with black eyes and thin crimson lips — part Edward Scissorhands, part Derek Zoolander, and part android. He’s one of the mysterious Cullen clan, who keep to themselves mostly, on account of them being centuries’ old vampires. Their father, Carlisle (Peter Facinelli), is the town doctor, a vampire humanitarian who only turns humans immortal if they’re on their deathbed. The only people who seem to have any knowledge of their vampirism are the Native Americans on a nearby reservation. They know because they’re descended from wolves, see. Also, because it’s the stupidest thing Stephenie Meyer could imagine.

I’m getting ahead of myself. With Edward and Bella, it’s love at first sight. She sees him and her heart leaps. He sees her and he gags violently and leaves school for a week. It turns out, Edward — whose family calls themselves vegetarians because they only drink the blood of animals — has a monster blood erection for Bella. He wants to drink her red Kool Aid. Or fuck her. It’s all very confusing for him emotionally. Over a few dinners, a few life-saving moments, and a lot of stalking, Edward and Bella grow fonder of one another. They love each other unconditionally. Or whatever. Bella eventually discovers Edward’s secret, and he opens up about it. He takes her to the top of a mountain, stands in the sun, and reveals his true self. It turns out, the sun doesn’t burn this strain of vampire; it turns them into Ziggy motherfucking Stardust. Their skin is made of glitter! Oh, bother.

The catch in their complicated relationship is that 1) Edward never ages; 2) he’s kind of a dick; and 3) she’s co-dependent and fairly insufferable. Oh, and also, Edward and his entire family have to struggle mightily to keep themselves from sucking the life out of Bella. This is especially difficult for Edward — making out arouses his bloodlust and sexy-time is all but impossible; it’d be like only having one Lay’s potato chip. You can’t eat just one. But Bella isn’t scared of Edward, most likely because Bella is kind of an idiot and probably doesn’t realize what her menstrual cycle is gonna do to that poor boy. Anyway, everything comes to a head over a vampire baseball game (don’t ask — Meyer apparently couldn’t think of a Quidditch equivalent for vampires, so she decided to throw down some retardation), when a trio of carnivorous vampires enter stage right and develop a thirst for Bella. Then things get ugly.

For those of you who haven’t actually read any of the Twilight novels, but have developed a certain perception of them and this movie, all I can say is: That perception is 100 percent correct. It’s a vampire movie made for the Lifetime network. It’s cheesy, ham-fisted, and dumb, a complete mockery of the vampire genre, a mockery that Catherine Hardwicke, (Thirteen), to her credit, stays completely true to the spirit of. It’s a terrible movie, but it’s not one you want to be caught sitting in front of — you’ll never be able to bring yourself to leave and, when it’s over, you’ll hate yourself for developing a curiosity for characters and a story and an empty, boneheaded mythology that doesn’t warrant your interest.

But I’ll grant this: The audience for the movie — bookish teenage girls in puffy sweaters, hoodies, and horn-rimmed glasses — isn’t nearly as obnoxious as I thought they’d be. I attended a midnight screening, fully packed — on a school night, no less — with almost nothing but teenage girls. You can’t begin to know the humiliation that accompanies being not only one of three guys in the entire theater, but by far the oldest, and the only one without eyeliner. (I suspect that anyone that noticed me hidden in the back of the theater thought I was trolling for jailbait.) But in sheepishly eavesdropping on conversations in the ticket line, in the concession line, and in the theater, I realized that most of these teenage girls didn’t take Twilight seriously. They knew it was trashy. They expected the movie to be bad. They weren’t hopelessly in love with the idea of Edward Cullen. They didn’t want to be Isabella Swan. And during the film, they laughed in all the inappropriate places. It dawned on me, in fact, that for a lot of 16-year-old girls, Twilight is their Snakes on a Plane, and Edward Cullen is their Sam Jackson. And in that realization, my faith in the Twatwaffle Generation, or at least parts of it, was instantly restored. There is hope yet, folks.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives withi his wife and son in Portland, Maine You can reach him via email, or leave a comment below.


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Comments

i have to go see this on sunday with 3 of my friends. we are all over 30. they all LOVE THESE BOOKS. help. me. godtopus.

at least the tickets were free.

Posted by: lerbage at November 21, 2008 2:09 PM

If this makes any good box-office I will go on a killing spree.

Nothing will matter: women, children, birds, lions hippopotami.

Nothing. will. matter.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 21, 2008 2:10 PM

I can't believe people still have the audacity (damn Obama getting me to use big words) to do movies and tv shows about vampires. Aside from Whedon's work does anyone really care? And even as somewhat of a diehard Whedon fan, I don't really care what he does with it. It's been played out. Let's move on.

Posted by: Dave at November 21, 2008 2:11 PM

You know, I hate this Twilight phenomenon, but it gives me hope. Hope that selling my latest creation, "Mike R. Saves The Universe and Bangs A Bunch of Celebrities", will be a breeze. Hmm...that's not a catchy title is it? How about if I change it to the name of a natural phenomenon, that would make it sound more significant. How about..."Dusk"? Much better...also, the character probably shouldn't have my name. It'll only isolate everyone who isn't me in the audience. How about "Mark Royce"? That sounds generic enough. One last thing though...can't copy the whole vampire thing, and there's werewolves in the Twilight saga as well...AH HA! I'll use Zombies, instead of Vampires. Zombies that don't eat people, and walk around like normal humans in daylight...except they don't because the Sun causes their skin to stink like shit!

I think I've got the hang of this...in fact I could probably do Ms. Meyer one better and write a whole tetralogy of these. Here me out:

Book 1: "Dusk", in which the protagonist, Mark Royce, falls in love with Medusa, a zombie who doesn't eat flesh and moves like a human. I meet her family, they like me, and instead of eating humans they eat animals.

Book 2: "Slightly Used Lunar Object", where Mark's girlfriend acts like a total bitch and abandons me...I mean HIM, which causes me...damnit, him much anguish, but he still saves her from suicide anyway because, "I miss her breath". (How do you keep this shit up after two books, and still qualify as a sane and mature adult?)

Book 3: "Equinox", where Mark have to choose between his friendship with a human and his love of a zombie...only to ditch the human he became really good friends with for a love affair for the ages.

Book 4: "Chasing Nightfall", in which we reach the stunning conclusion where Mark's girlfriend saves him from death by turning him into a zombie, and they live happily ever after with their zombie child.

and finally, Book 5: "Do You See How Stupid This Sounds, Now That I've Done Exactly The Same Thing You've Done, Only In Jest, Stephenie Meyer?", in which I laugh at Stephenie Meyer...all the way to ze bank.

Expect Book 1 next Spring!

Posted by: Mike R. Saves The Universe... at November 21, 2008 2:13 PM

Better fire up the MurderTank BSlim. This pile of emo shit will be #1 for at least three weeks.

Posted by: admin at November 21, 2008 2:15 PM

I expected the teens to be at least mildly obsessed with the main character Ed, but for them not taking the film seriously? Well, that's a pleasant surprise indeed! Nothing can top Buffy, you're right, that movie didn't take itself too seriously and it was fun in all the right places. But a vampire movie based on a shitty vampire novel? That sounds like they're really reaching for a certain demographic. The movie doesn't sound like it goes where you really want it to, and the whole vampires not burning to a crisp in the sun and wolves knowing that they're vampires (but ones who only suck the blood of animals and turn humans who are about to die into vampires)...that's just LAME!

Posted by: ph at November 21, 2008 2:18 PM

:sobs:

Posted by: Julie at November 21, 2008 2:18 PM

I completely agree with your description of the can't-look-away feeling; I read the first three books with a weird, single-minded determination, even though I kind of hated the characters, because I literally could not put them down. Damn you, Meyer.

However, I'm skeptical about the perceived level of irony with which teenage girls are consuming the film. Perhaps you just live in a particularly smart region populated by proto-hipsters? Because as far as I can tell, most girls out there are carving Edward's name into their thighs and planning Spring Break trips to Forks.

Posted by: Girlnone at November 21, 2008 2:19 PM

"I'll use Zombies, instead of Vampires. Zombies that don't eat people, and walk around like normal humans in daylight...except they don't because the Sun causes their skin to stink like shit!"

By far the funniest thing I've read all day.

Posted by: Wormer at November 21, 2008 2:21 PM

"it turns them into Ziggy motherfucking Stardust. "
Wait, really? Damnit, now I have to see this....fuck.

Posted by: s. pisaster at November 21, 2008 2:21 PM

This review contains the only Dustin-stance I have ever seriously disagreed with.

I mean, seriously... the Buffy movie is just fucking awful.

Posted by: firedmyass at November 21, 2008 2:21 PM

Yep, I'm going Sunday too. Also over 30. Way over. I hope Dustin's experience is my experience re: the obnoxiousness level, but I sincerely doubt it. It's New Jersey, after all. The Shopping Mall state. Which, incidentally, is probably the theater we'll be hitting- the one at the mall. Brand new theater, very nice, but loaded with morons as a rule.

Dustin, you failed to mention the photography/cinematography, which appeared as though it might be a saving grace from the ads... can you enlighten me?

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at November 21, 2008 2:22 PM

It's also a stupid movie. Unrelentingly stupid. It's a Spanish soap opera without the accents

WHAT THE FUCK????!!!!! As a Spanish-speaking person with an accent I take offense to that. Spanish soap operas are the shit. You've obviously never seen La Madrastra, esse. Bruno OWNS Sam Jackson.

And your sorry little ass.

Posted by: SofĂ­a at November 21, 2008 2:25 PM

I've tried so hard to explain my hate/intrigue with Twilight to people before, but your first two paragraphs describe it completely. I got sucked into it because it was all the rage and ended up reading the whole series, not because they're good, but because I wanted something to happen.

Posted by: kelsy at November 21, 2008 2:26 PM

There already is zombie fiction, incredibly BAD zombie fiction, out there, so Mike R., you missed the bandwagon by mere inches. The book I'm thinking of is a mystery written in a Sex and The City style, and why yes, thank you for asking, it is even more vomit-inducing than that brief description sounds. Imagine SATC riddled with freaky zombie sex and diarrhea jokes. Hi-larious.

Maybe you could try some other supernatural being. I'm sure there's a few out there. Leprechauns, perhaps? Then you could lure the ladies to your lair with promises of post-coital Lucky Charms.

Posted by: Wednesday at November 21, 2008 2:26 PM

"you just skip straight ahead to the blackout and wake up in a stranger's bed with a matchbox car six inches deep into your rectum."

A "Jackass" movie reference in the "Twilight" review? Dustin, I love you.

Posted by: Ginger at November 21, 2008 2:27 PM

Did anyone else catch this girl from this movie on Letterman last night? She came across as either a huge stuck up bitch or the most awkward person I've ever seen. Still not sure which but Dave tried to carry the exchange the best he could but had a few subtle jabs that went right over her head.

Posted by: dylanj at November 21, 2008 2:28 PM

I hate the world.

Thank Godtopus my 16 year-old sister doth not love this drivel. She's one of the smart ones.

Posted by: Sean at November 21, 2008 2:30 PM

I really HATE that I read these books. I hate that this stupid, co-dependent idiot and her undead stalker boyfriend are going to be portrayed as a great love story by hoi poloi. Son of a bitch...
"Snakes on a Plane." Ha ha. Freaking awesome. Awesome enough for me to add in this little gem:
http://xkcd.com/107/

Posted by: BouncingBetty at November 21, 2008 2:31 PM

"..She came across as either a huge stuck up bitch or the most awkward person I've ever seen. .."

It's more likely that she's just STUPID, seriously, there's no mystery or depth to the current generation they are all "'tude" with absolutely ZERO substance. We are currently breeding the most informed dummies in history.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 21, 2008 2:32 PM

BUFFY THE VAMPIRE DATER.

(OK, I stole that from the review in my local paper, but had to share it.)

Posted by: BWeaves at November 21, 2008 2:33 PM

"...as a monster blood erection..."

That's exactly what the doctor said I'd get if I kept fiddlin' around with that rusty clamp/carabiner thing I found... Jesus, for the life of me, I couldn't remember what the hell it was called! Thanks, Dustin! Thank you ever so much!

Christ, I'm surprised you didn't get arrested for trolling the theater for Hot Topic Barely Legal ballyhoo... I'll give the flick this: at least it's not a remake.

Posted by: Skitz at November 21, 2008 2:33 PM

everything comes to a head over a vampire baseball game (don't ask -- Meyer apparently couldn't think of a Quidditch equivalent for vampires, so she decided to throw down some retardation)...

Sir: How can you throw out a nugget like that and then instruct us, "don't ask"? I'll never read these books, never; but in the days to come when this POS movie makes its way to TNT I will have to sit down and watch the...baseball scene...?...just to find out WTF.

Oh, and thank you for that last paragraph. It may have saved me from a weekend of deep depression.

P.S. Mike R. for #1 Eloquence next week. Laughed. So. Hard.

Posted by: Jerce at November 21, 2008 2:35 PM

If there is a God, I will not be seeing this movie. Ever. Although if it really is that terrible, then at least I can keep hope alive that they won't bother filming the sequels.

Also this Bella chick sounds like she's mentally slow. If you'd been alive for hundreds of years, why would you pick a paramour who rides the short bus? If he's that damned handsome, can't he do better?

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at November 21, 2008 2:36 PM

Jerce I'll save you the trouble, there is nothing magical or interesting about the baseball scene. It's just a baseball game with sparkly pale people who can run really super fast.

Posted by: Julie at November 21, 2008 2:37 PM

Wednesday: "Maybe you could try some other supernatural being. I'm sure there's a few out there. Leprechauns, perhaps?"

I think "Artemis Fowl" already covered the Leprechaun angle.

Posted by: BWeaves at November 21, 2008 2:37 PM

I must admit, though: I really enjoyed the interview that the fwoopy-haired Cullen boy gave last week, when he said that the book felt like Meyer's personal fantasy that no one was ever supposed to find. That shit's pretty funny.

Fucking crazy Mormons.

Posted by: Sean at November 21, 2008 2:37 PM

Dear all,

Why so serious? Please. No need to be so cynical or angry over the fact that this mush has been/is going to be a tremendous success. This is just cotton-candy-flavored brain rot, and I think it's fair to say that the majority of teenage girls today know that. Nobody's making the assumption that this is art, or that it is anything particularly significant other than a pop culture phenomenon, which seems to happen quite a lot these days. And I've never seen so many close-ups of a single actor's face in a blockbuster movie. It's brilliant.

Posted by: Jessica at November 21, 2008 2:39 PM

I stand with Sofia on this. Telenovelas are the ultimate awesome. So yeah, fuck you!

But ooooooh I had been waiting for this review, and it delivered. I love it. I love it so much I want to suck its blood. And watch it glitter in the sunshine...what the fuck?

I swear, the more I read about Twilight the less I believe it's real. Every time it's a case of the squeaking "ARE YOU *KIDDING* ME? HOW CAN THIS EXIST?!" and then I die a little inside because it MUST be real.

But I think your conclusion might be right. Half the people I know who've read this do it with a sick pleasure, like me when I watch reality tv. Why do we do this to ourselves? Why?

Yeah I'll probably fucking watch this. But not in the theater. God not ever. I'd be too embarrassed to go.

Posted by: figgy at November 21, 2008 2:40 PM

I want to read that zombie series, Mike R. I really, really do. Only, there should be fairies. Lots of fairies. That glitter in the sun and smell like chocolate cake.
Okay, so maybe I just want skin that glitters without the assistance of cosmetics. And also some cake.

Oh, and FYI Dustin. In the interest of authenticity, it's StephEnie Meyer, with an E. It's just cause I hate people spelling my name wrong. And I'm an asshole.

Posted by: hersheygirl at November 21, 2008 2:41 PM

And I've never seen so many close-ups of a single actor's face in a blockbuster movie. It's brilliant.

HA!

I know I'll see this movie at some point. Because if I read the book, I might as well lose what little sanity I have left and see the film.

Posted by: Julie at November 21, 2008 2:41 PM

*tries to comfort Julie*

*gives up and goes back to cackling*

Posted by: lizzieborden at November 21, 2008 2:43 PM

I will beat you to death with my copy of New Moon.

Posted by: Julie at November 21, 2008 2:44 PM

You know, the weird thing is my brother wants to see this movie and so does one of my friends. Both are well adjusted individuals, but for some reason it appeals to them.

Needless to say, if I run into a group of teenage girls buying these books at Barnes and Noble, while debating which Twilight character they are, I'll silently think to myself what my answer would be if anyone were to ask me...Van Helsing.

Posted by: Mike R. at November 21, 2008 2:45 PM

The South Park episode this week dealt with this topic and was the best thing South Park has made since Imaginationland

Posted by: dylanj at November 21, 2008 2:53 PM

I must live under a boulder. Not only had I never heard of this movie until three days ago, I had never heard of the book(s?) it's based on.

Still, Cedric Diggory lives! Not a good enough reason to see the movie, though.

Posted by: Kolby at November 21, 2008 2:55 PM

Some sad, sick little part of me wants to read these books, just to see if they're as bad as I think they will be.

I just finished reading Dracula, followed by The Historian. Awesomeness. I think these books and/or this movie will probably make me enraged on the heels of such vampire classics. Maybe I'll wait until it's on TV someday when I can't get off the couch.

Posted by: Pea at November 21, 2008 2:55 PM

Aw man, Dylanj, they were replaying that SP episode last night but I missed it!

Posted by: Julie at November 21, 2008 2:57 PM

Jessica, I'd believe you were it not for the wealth of "Edward Cullen is the perfect man" products available in stores or as widgets to decorate your facebook page with. I'm sure there are people who appreciate them as harmless brain fluff, but apparently there are girls out there who genuinely believe that Edward Cullen is an appropriate romantic partner, and since he's all stalker-y that makes me nervous.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at November 21, 2008 3:02 PM

Julie, southparkstudios.com should still have it up until next week.

Posted by: Mike R. at November 21, 2008 3:02 PM

The more I think about it, the more I don't really see all that much wrong with Twilight, the movie. I saw Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the movie, and thought it sucked (pun intended) with the light of a thousand suns. PeeWee Herman as a vampire? Kristen Stewart, I mean Kristy Swanson, as a human who gets close to vampires. Donald Sutherland as the Giles type character. I didn't watch the TV show until about year 7 because the movie turned me off so badly. Then I went back and rented it from the beginning and loved the TV show.

Twilight is going to be stupid escapism, just like Buffy was. Probably not as good, but I think the girl viewers get it.

Posted by: BWeaves at November 21, 2008 3:04 PM

Sounds like the reason people read/watch this shit is the same reason I still watch Heroes -- Something has to happen eventually, right?

Posted by: Nate at November 21, 2008 3:05 PM

Wednesday, I thought Sex and the City WAS about zombies. You mean those women are supposed to be ALIVE? Damn, definitely fooled me. If that's the case, why do they dress them in corpse makeup?

Posted by: Snath at November 21, 2008 3:06 PM

I live in another century Mike R. and don't own a computer. I'd have to wait till everyone at work left so I could turn the volume on, and, well...I have wine and Wall-E at home. :)

Posted by: Julie at November 21, 2008 3:09 PM

Man I loved "Little Heaven"

Toad the Wet Sprocket may be slight, but I think they are also unfairly maligned.

Posted by: Jason M at November 21, 2008 3:09 PM

My husband has chosen to go see this movie with coworkers tonight. I wished him well. I am going to go home and write a paranormal mystery/romance set at a ren faire that will result in Meyer being a mere footnote in the next list of annoying literary fads. Next up - all the teenage girls will be sporting flower garlands and wearing corsets over their jeans and lusting after vagrant men and there's nothing you can do to stop i.... What? They already are? Damn. Back to the drawing board.

Posted by: Reba at November 21, 2008 3:09 PM

Jules, I'll totally go see it with you. We could meet halfway. What's halfway between Baltimore and Philadelphia? Christiana or Wilmington or summat?

We can bring booze. And I will cackle, but try to keep it quiet. And we can make fun of the teenagers!

You can beat me anytime, though.

Posted by: lizzieborden at November 21, 2008 3:21 PM

Julie, it'll be on again on Sunday and Monday. Those are the only times I see, though (but I only checked through sometime in December).

Posted by: Sarina at November 21, 2008 3:28 PM

I'm with Julie. I'm sobbing in the corner of my room curled up with Breaking Dawn wondering how the fuck I got there. The first three were schlock that in spite of myself I enjoyed. But Breaking Dawn is all kinds of fucked up queerity.

I just want to wash my hands of this!

Now I excuse me while I google images of Robert Pattinson.

Posted by: Katherine at November 21, 2008 3:29 PM

I plan to sneak in airplane-sized bottles of rum to slip into my cola. It makes any movie more fun!

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at November 21, 2008 3:34 PM

It brings a particular kind of warmth to my hateful heart when I think about how all the actors involved in this pile of crap will be forever typecast, cursed, never able to transcend their fleeting notoriety.

That my friends, is a fate worse than vampirism.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 21, 2008 3:37 PM

I don't understand adults that are into this. the cast members all look like little kids to me, regardless of how old they actually are. I feel like a pedophile watching the ads. I totally feel like a diddler by association. not a good feeling.

Posted by: snarla at November 21, 2008 3:38 PM

Thought about reading these out of some guilt ridden belief that I shouldn't avoid them simply because of the little gaggle of heavy-breathing gothlettes in the corner of the local book store. But ISABELLA SWAN? Hell no. Although wondering how the Mormon was going to cope with a glittery penis scene did nearly tempt me over again.

Report from person who attended the midnight showing (under duress): audience contained 98% dewy eyed tweenicles some of whom sobbed when whozy-whatsis - the guy who died in the Harry Potter movie and then lost his comb - appeared on the screen. Other 2% were mixed bag of "mini-metrosexuals," bored boyfriends carefully noting down the lines most likely to get them laid that night and 2 young men wearing BDU's.

Me, I spent the evening with a neat whiskey and my Netflixed Dr Who.

Posted by: Megan at November 21, 2008 3:38 PM

Airplane-sized bottles of booze make everything more fun, AvB.

Posted by: Wednesday at November 21, 2008 3:39 PM

I read the first book back a looooong time ago, and thought it was a bit thrilling to experience, vicariously, that kind of lust. I read one chapter of the second book, and thought "Yeah, this is dumb." My 15-yr-old sister excitedly filled me in on the rest of the story, and I've since decided to force-feed her Narnia books until she pukes or falls ill from Laudable Literature Poisoning.

Posted by: Beatific Barf at November 21, 2008 3:43 PM

i find it really entertaining that all you people are getting your panties in a twist over this little throw away movie. the people who are seeing it may not take it seriously but it would appear you guys take it WAY too seriously.

Posted by: alm at November 21, 2008 3:49 PM

My frienemy said the film is awesome because it's just like the book. I said if you like it because it's just like the book, then it's not a good film at all. She slapped me.

Posted by: Robert at November 21, 2008 3:57 PM

Okay, I haven't seen the movie or read the damn book but isn't there some werewolf guy (maybe a Jacob or something?) who's supposed to be all hot for the dumb lead chick and it's all tense? I thought I read a review that talked about it. I refuse to read the book, so I may never know for sure, but I thought it was kinda the way the three? four? books were connected, but maybe not.

Fuck, whatever.

Posted by: TWoP Fan at November 21, 2008 4:04 PM

There sure are some Judgy Judgersons all up in this thread today....

Wednesday, I find they also make family gatherings alot more fun too.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at November 21, 2008 4:09 PM

"What's halfway between Baltimore and Philadelphia?"

Hell.

Posted by: TK at November 21, 2008 4:26 PM

Props on a Toad the Wet Sprocket reference...

In the final words of Lost Boys a la Grampa "One thing about living in Santa Carla I never could stomach, all the damn vampires."

I feel that way about teenagers. Everywhere.

Posted by: amanda47 at November 21, 2008 4:28 PM

Oh, get over yourselves. It's a guilty pleasure; it's not supposed to be great art!

Also: There's nothing you want more than to get up and walk out, but your drawn in

To quote another guilty pleasure (Friends): "Y-O-U-R means your; Y-O-U-R-E means you are!"

Posted by: Twilighter28 at November 21, 2008 4:29 PM

Hey alm don't lump all of us into one group, thats stereotyping and I find it offensive.

Some of us don't wear panties, they bind.

Posted by: admin at November 21, 2008 4:31 PM

http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=340599>1=28127

If you need more proof that the lead guy in this movie is a giant tool, click the link.

Someone should truly consider kicking him in his happy place or where the sparkles are.

Posted by: Melody at November 21, 2008 4:35 PM

It's good to see that your comments sections are working again. The way that tweens and teens flocked to this movie made me think that it would be stupid. Pattinson caused quite a stir @ an SF mall recently. The book the movie's based on sounds terrible though, like it's not even based on real vampire lore, although it's arguable that Buffy wasn't either (but it least it held on to some basics, like vampire's adversity to the sun, etc.) This is probably akin to watching The Lost Boys for this generation's teen girls, I take it. But with an even lousier soundtrack.

Posted by: ph at November 21, 2008 4:42 PM

Mocking something does not mean one takes it seriously. Just saying.

A movie does not have to be great art to be enjoyable. Conversely, great art can result in a miserable experience. I believe the problem with this movie is the same as the problem with the book - the lead character is a cipher (great for allowing the disaffected teen girl in everyone to ride along) who, despite assuring us she is quite smart, appears to be completely blind to the fact that her sparkly boyfriend is a sadistic stalker who wants to hang out with her largely because she smells like his favorite steak. Other than that, I'm sure it's fine.

Posted by: Reba at November 21, 2008 4:43 PM

"The Lost Boys for this generation's teen girls, I take it. But with an even lousier soundtrack. "

You take that back, ph! You take that back RIGHT NOW! How DARE you insult the glorious glory of The Lost Boys soundtrack?!

Posted by: TK at November 21, 2008 4:59 PM

"The Lost Boys for this generation's teen girls, I take it. But with an even lousier soundtrack. "


Hmmmm, what kind of person says something like that...?

Maybe someone who's not fond of, eh, I don't know...LIVING!

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 21, 2008 5:12 PM

Hey Dustin, remember that curse I cast on you after you dissed Star Wars? I think maybe I was too cruel. I should have just wished you'd be stung in the nipples by hornets, that would have been less painful.

You all are lucky though, your not in high school like me. Every single high school girl is reading this undead shit. I care about no vampire romance other that Whedon's. And I would love to join you on your killing spree Barbados Slim, on that night, blood will rain from the skies.

Posted by: George at November 21, 2008 5:38 PM

lizzieborden: What's halfway between Baltimore and Philadelphia?

TK: Hell.

This is why I come here all the time.

Posted by: Neon at November 21, 2008 5:54 PM

heh, sorry admin to have offended your delicate sensibilities!

i should have said, "getting undergarments of your choosing (or if you choose not to wear any, that's cool too) in a bunch"

better?

Posted by: alm at November 21, 2008 6:04 PM

College Educated? Check.
Book Snob? Check.
Movie Snob? Check.
Ends up with no panties every time I think of Cedric Diggory as a repressed vampire? Check.

Damn, where'd they go?

Posted by: Andrea at November 21, 2008 6:21 PM

The book the movie's based on sounds terrible though, like it's not even based on real vampire lore, although it's arguable that Buffy wasn't either (but it least it held on to some basics, like vampire's adversity to the sun, etc.)

Thing is, everything vampire-related since Bram Stoker has discarded or altered original vampire lore, including the vulnerability to sunlight. Thing was, the changes (more or less) made some sense. Sparkling in sunlight absolutely does not.

You know what would be awesome? If this movie was successful, and we develop the whiny-teen-girl version of Tyler Perry fans. They will flood the comments, crying about how the reviewer, not being a whiny teen girl, just doesn't get it.

And you know what comes next? The whiny-teen-girl version of Pookie.

I absolutely cannot wait.

Posted by: Vermillion at November 21, 2008 6:23 PM

I don't know why, but your Lays reference tickled my funnybone. More specifically, it made me laugh out loud for a full minute. Maybe because I've read the books and the long, awkward, evasive dialogue they call "intimate talk", and the metaphor just rang so true.

You actually got lucky with your screening. The 16/17-year-old crowd sees twilight for what it is. It's the tweens you need to watch out for, the middle schoolers who weren't allowed to the screening. They measure every boy they meet against Edward Cullen.

Posted by: Ling at November 21, 2008 6:26 PM

I'm just going to straight up say it: I just saw Twilight and it was without doubt the best cinematic experience of my young life. Never before have I experienced anything so transcendentally RETARDED. I just sat there for the entire film with my mouth open, going, "This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. AND IT LOVE IT." I can't explain it. Dustin's right, it IS like crack. I'm so ashamed.

(But I will say that the wig they put on Jacob to make him look Native American alone was worth the $5 ticket price. Oh lord was it unflattering.)

Posted by: Smithy at November 21, 2008 6:28 PM

OK...Buffy movie = terrible.

Buffy the Series = Awesome.

I have no doubt that Twilight fully sucks. I just heard a review on NPR where I could tell the reviewer realllly wanted to trash it, but instead did that in the nicest possible way, which was to not really trash it.

Posted by: Vince Noir at November 21, 2008 6:43 PM

I read these books out of curiosity. When I was in middle school (and fine, high school), I was OBSESSED with LJ Smith's Vampire Diaries. Same kind of thing - - tortured love affair between good, non-people-sucking vampire haunted by his dark nature and human girl. So I thought I might like Twilight. HOWEVER, while Elena in The Vampire Diaries was kind of badass and fearless and a little slutty, the chick in Twilight was boring, clingy, overly serious, and generally annoying. Plus, while exciting drama continued to occur in the Vampire Diaries even when the two main characters fell in love, stuff just kind of stops in Twilight. For like, 50 pages or something, they just kind of keep falling in love more and more and saying revoltingly dramatic lovey things to one another. It was ridiculous. I kept reading, but at no point was it a pleasurable experience, even a guilty pleasure.
So I wish I could say I won't see this, but knowing my love of vampire shit, I probably will.
I hate myself.

Posted by: tt_marie at November 21, 2008 7:24 PM

"It turns out, the sun doesn't burn this strain of vampire; it turns them into Ziggy motherfucking Stardust."

What? WHAT?

Someone get a screen cap linked up in here. Duude.

(So he literally DOES "dazzle"?!)

Posted by: Anon at November 21, 2008 7:27 PM

Well howdy all you vampire lovers out there....
From Stoker to Lost Boys to Anne Rice to Whedon we keep re-iventing this genre.
However, the only truly satisfying re-invention was Kate Beckingsale in leather pants.
I guess my next sci-fi convention outfit will be Cedric Diggory in action silk track suit with vampire fangs. Kinky to the max!

Posted by: cedrudge at November 21, 2008 7:33 PM

So what we have is Sweet Valley High crossed with TV'sBeauty and the Beast, lightly salted with Anne Rice fan fiction? I just knew there was a reason for puberty.

Posted by: funtime42 at November 21, 2008 7:39 PM

"We are currently breeding the most informed dummies in history."

Excellent.

Posted by: Groot at November 21, 2008 7:49 PM

BarbadoSlim? Sharpen the knives baby. It's already making good box office based on pre-sales of tickets alone,or so i've heard. Please, go, Kill. Start with fucking Meyer.

Posted by: Nadine at November 21, 2008 7:53 PM

Oh, my friends, how I wish I could partake in Dustin's optimism. But he must have gone to a movie theatre in one hip little town, because most teenaged girls I know take this shit Dead. Serious. I'm smack dab in the target demographic here, and I can not tell you how many facebook albums I've already seen called "OMG TWILIGHT I

Posted by: Kiki at November 21, 2008 8:04 PM

just...felt i should say this, as some of you may remember, i have this personal rule about not dismissing something as total ass until i see it myself.

There are, on occasion, very few exceptions to this rule.

Twilight is one of them.
The books strike me as SHIT the film strikes me as SHIT, the whole thing, just steaming great crap.


So you couldn't pay me enough money to read the books or see the films.
Ever.

Posted by: nadine at November 21, 2008 8:11 PM

I was a huge fan of Buffy the Vampire Slayer - the TV series. The movie was cheesy fun, but the series was awesome (for the first 6 years or so...). I found myself today wishing they could just do a very special episode where Buffy gets really pissed off about all the Bella-wannabees looking for their very own Edward - and Xander pointing out that Buffy really doesn't have much room to talk on that one, and as Buffy dithers trying to defend her own romantic choices she casually stakes Robert Pattinson without breaking a sweat (although WITH a pronounced eye-roll). But not before Xander gets in a quip about vampires and their extreme hair-product choices....

Damn, I miss Buffy.

In other news, my 12-year-old daughter is going to see this tonight and she's deliriously excited. I'm deliriously excited that another mom is chaperoning the movie, not me. I don't weep for my kid, though - the movie is designed to appeal to 12-year-old girls, it's not her fault she is one. She has given me every reason to believe she's going to be an awesome adult despite swooning over the idea of stalkerish sparkly fictional boys.

Posted by: Edith at November 21, 2008 8:15 PM

Man, I'm so depressed I might have to go cut myself....

Wait, hang on. Oh those crafty bastards.

Posted by: catag at November 21, 2008 8:40 PM

Dustin, you're right about the teenage fangirls loving Twilight for its sheer ridiculousness. I'm probably going to get lynched (or at the very least, have the mighty Godtopus set on me) for admitting this, but I'm one of those girls who'll be waiting in line for the advanced screening when the movie decides to finally get to Australia.

Twilight's crap. As a series, it's a literary travesty. Its characters are one dimensional works of an undeveloped writer. The supposed high level allusions to Romeo and Juliet and Wuthering Heights and whatnot are vain, desperate attempts of Meyer to elevate the books past its status as badly conceived, albeit fucking addictive, teen literature.

But it's one of the main reasns why most Twilight fans I know actually like the series. We know it's shit. We know your mental capacity gets capped at 14 years in order to make it through the books. And we know that if some dude with possession issues decided to watch us while we slept every single night we wouldn't think it was romantic. But it's addictive, trashy crap we all enjoy because just when you think it can't get worse, it does.

The only difference now is that we get to watch it on the big screen. And at least Cedric Diggory's pretty.

Posted by: CamillaV at November 21, 2008 8:43 PM

I'm battling walking pneumonia and just read all four of these books through the warm haze of a Tussionex high. That's truly the best way to consume them.

Did that King Vampire really offer his Wife Bella to Irritable Werewolf to impregnate her? What the fuck?

Damn I want to have sex with a Vampire....

Posted by: Xanthippe at November 21, 2008 8:43 PM

Pardon me, but I just read this:

In one more painful twist, the Half-Blood Prince trailer is attached to prints of Twilight, the based-on-a-best-seller movie that is opening Friday because Half-Blood Prince isn't. (Originally, Twilight was going to hit theaters in December.)

That's a brand new trailer, mind you, not the one Dan posted.

I'd calmed back down about all this shit!!!!

Posted by: Jay at November 21, 2008 9:07 PM

And you know what comes next? The whiny-teen-girl version of Pookie.
Posted by: Vermillion at November 21, 2008 6:23 PM

Oh man, that made me cackle and clap my hands with glee at the thought! Teeheeheee!! Thank you, Vermillion.

Posted by: Lainey at November 21, 2008 9:19 PM

I've read the damn books, laughed hysterically through all of the four books and wondered why it was a phenomenon.

However, my friend and I are planning on watching this movie as we have a deal, watch one shitty movie a year and laugh all the way through it. This year it falls down to Twilight, last year it was 27 dresses (which to my chagrin she loved) next year, who knows? Probably Movie Movie

Posted by: caity at November 21, 2008 10:13 PM

I, for one, will not be anywhere near a movie theater for the next couple weeks due to this Twilight thing... yet I'm reminded of it daily. I work in a mall with a Hot Topic, you see, and all I see these days are "Team Edward" tee-shirts walking up the aisles and similarly-themed button pins walking back. I'm seeing these things on the backs of my eyelids now. Ugh, I want to die.

On a happier note, yay for the Toad the Wet Sprocket mention!

Posted by: KatieP at November 21, 2008 10:20 PM

Thank you alm. Finally there is someone on this website with a smattering of manners.

On a side note I am now developing a movie script. I want to get paid too bitches. It's about a zombie emo vampire chihuahua who learns kung fu from a panda to save the world from those that would seek to exterminate Twatwaffles.

Does it make sense? No, absolutely not. But it has a chihuahua with a faux hawk, eye make up and feelings of insecurity. Mix in some douche and I expect it should gross about 150 mil. Oh, and it's an original concept. Never been done before.

Now if you will exuse me I've got to get to court. I'm beng sued by every major studio for "stealing their ideas" Assholes.

Posted by: admin at November 21, 2008 10:57 PM

From the urban dictionary as I was unaware what the definition of such a great word was...

The twatwaffle is a magical sentient being that flies around in rainbows; it is a friend of unicorns! Twatwaffles are often used by businesswomen like magic carpets to fly them to work. Businesswomen like the inspiring nature of a twatwaffle, often referring to them as "a team player" and "a great asset to the team." If a man touches a twatwaffle his genitals will shrivel and drop off into the snow, lost to him forever. When twatwaffles are not swirling around in the sky you can often find them digging around in medical waste and pushing homeless people into their own shallow puddles of urine.
"Honey, I'm running behind this morning so I'm going to ride the twatwaffle into the big city. I don't want to be late for my job at the tampon factory."
"Okay dear. OHMYGOD, there's a python in the crib, I think it ate or is eating little Ayshylyey!"

Posted by: WhoWhatWhere at November 21, 2008 10:57 PM

Buffy the movie is FAAAAAR superior to the series.

PeeWee's death scene alone is utterly frigging brilliant; Kristy Swanson's Buffy was way more adorable/less bitchy than SMG (who has permanent bitch face [you know, that look like she's constantly smelling dog shit]--that's why she was so effective in Cruel Intentions); and if I thought prom at MY high school would be that kick-ass, I would, like, totally have gone.

Posted by: frumpiefox at November 21, 2008 11:14 PM

I would say this movie should have been titled " Emo Jumps the Shark: The Apotheosis " but emo already jumped the shark at least a year ago, and the phrase " jumping the shark " itself jumped the shark several months ago.

Posted by: Lee at November 21, 2008 11:22 PM

"We are currently breeding the most informed dummies in history."

I'll be stealing that line. Thank you Mr. Slim.

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at November 21, 2008 11:31 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

This review made it all worth DR, all worth it.

Seriously though, while the 16 year-olds aren't necessarily gaga over His Glitteriness, it's a fine line. I know several 12 year old girls, and more than a few 40 year old girls, that are absolutely in love with this douchebag. As a gay man, I don't understand it. Maybe it's the whole unrequited passion thing...after a few months I'd get bored and break up with him. Not to mention the fact that he's like 200 years old and he's dating a 16 year old...sickie.

Posted by: Smokin at November 21, 2008 11:33 PM

Hey! I miss "Blind Date" (guilty pleasure).

Posted by: bucdaddy at November 22, 2008 12:02 AM

Also? Dammit it to HELL, I miss Carl Kolchak.

Posted by: bucdaddy at November 22, 2008 12:12 AM

Dude, people everywhere today are saying how audiences were laughing uproariously through this movie. I think Dustin might've hit on something when he said this was the new Snakes on a Plane, except that it's not SUPPOSED to be hilarious.

I can't WAIT to watch this now. Damnit.

Posted by: figgy at November 22, 2008 12:26 AM

HA! I *just* watched a brief interview bit with that little whiny bitch, Kirsten Stewart, and she said this:

"I heard about it and I thought 'I don't want to be part of this garbage', but then my agent MADE me read the script, and I did. Then I spent three hours on the audition and I got the part."

I can't tell you how much I loved that she didn't ever take back her statement that it was garbage. That, coupled with Unwashed Britboy dissing Meyers makes me so very, very happy. They know it's shit, and they know they can say it's shit, and they'll still get their millions. Damn, I hope these douchetards get their comeuppance. Move aside, Heigl, you've been outbitched.

Posted by: figgy at November 22, 2008 12:37 AM

I really hope you're wrong figgy. Because if you're not that means the public has actually managed to pull their collective heads out of their asses. I believe this might be the first sign of the apocolypse.

It may also mean that Dustin is the prophet written about in the scriptures of Godtopus. And to be honest, I don't care how bad this rash gets, that dude is not laying his pseudo-heterosexual, well manicured hands on me. I'd rather slowly go insane.

Posted by: admin at November 22, 2008 1:01 AM

While I do wish America's future spent its weekends sipping single malt and laughing uproariously at the historical indescrepancies in "Rome" I know it ain't going to happen. They're kids, people. Just because they'll get drunk on Peach Boone's and laugh at a dumb movie, it doesn't mean they're idiots or take this crap seriously. That's how enjoying something ironically works when you've only been alive sixteen years. Admit it, how many of you read VC Andrews at that age...

Posted by: klaatu at November 22, 2008 1:03 AM

Um, here's the thing about the "hot vampire" genre and why it attracts the audience it does -- and please note, it is ALWAYS a young female audience:

Very, Very Good Looking Actors.

Brad Pitt, this Robert Pattinson guy and the man who plays Bill the Vampire in Trueblood.

nuff sed.

If the audience is lucky, the source material is well written and/or the script for the film or series is, as well. Regardless, the audience will come and stay as long as the Very Good Looking Actor makes their hearts go pitter pat. Period.

Well, I could give you a retread about the whole vampire/sex metaphor, but you already know all that. BUT THE KEY, dear hearts, is the Very Good Looking Actor.

Oh -- and that the ACTRESS be NOT Very Good Looking. That she be, in fact, JUST good looking enough, but close enough to average that the pitter patting hearts in the audience can imagine themselves, in the not-too-distant future, as growing into that look someday... and winning themselves a Very Good Looking Actor of their Very Own.

VOY-lah.

It's no fucking mystery.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at November 22, 2008 1:14 AM

Well, no -- not always a YOUNG female audience. I'll retract that...

A YEARNING female audience.

Lacking something. Needing something.

Lotta young ones. But not ALL young.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at November 22, 2008 1:15 AM

Like a moth to a...fan?

Posted by: That Damn Monkey at November 22, 2008 2:21 AM

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but it's not a Toad the Wet Sprocket song, it's by the Nerfherders. I saw them play it once somewhere in Orange County, it was a good show.

Posted by: nancy at November 22, 2008 2:30 AM

I know several 12 year old girls, and more than a few 40 year old girls, that are absolutely in love with this douchebag. - Smokin

The thing is, those are two very VERY different groups. 12-year-old girls swoon over androgynous boys, and Edward, the - hee! - VEGETARIAN vampire, is pretty damn androgynous (and it's helpful that he's portrayed by a Very Good Looking Actor(tm Maryscott). I haven't read these books or seen the movie, but from what I understand from my kid, Edward is protective, very handsome in a non-threatening glittery way, he battles his evil (testosterone) bloodlust, and saves Bella from the truly evil (not androgynous) vampire who's out to (ravish) kill her. The novels sound like they're tripe. As a feminist, I'm a little appalled that my daughter isn't completely freaked out by Medievally Chivalrous Stalker Boy protecting/carrying clumsy weak Heroine. But it is COMPLETELY NORMAL for twelve-year-old girls to be into this. (I suspect the 16-year-olds laughing ironically at Dustin's screening read the first book when they were 12, fell madly in love with it, and couldn't stay away even though they see the whole thing very differently now.) Not every girl goes through it, but it's NORMAL. Princesses, then horses, then hot-yet-androgynous boys. [When I was 13, I saw Cheap Trick on "Night Flight" on USA Network (because I am really REALLY old), and for months I truly believed that if I didn't get to meet and marry Robin Zander I would die. Such is the power of the hot-yet-androgynous man in the mind of a 13-year-old girl.] It's NORMAL - and then they grow out of it. It's not the end of the world. As klaatu said, "they're kids, people."

40-year-olds who swoon over this shit, though, clearly have developmental disabilities. In 12-year-olds, it's called "age appropriate sexuality." In 40-year-olds, it's called, "oh for god's sake get a fucking life - one that does not include an Etsy shop of your original Twilight curios."

Posted by: Edith at November 22, 2008 2:51 AM

Whoa. That comment was much longer than I intended it to be - sorry!

Posted by: Edith at November 22, 2008 2:57 AM

I've also been sucked into the Twilight books. Being well over sixteen, I went to Target in the dead of night to buy them, lest someone saw. They are awful and truly addictive. I kind of want to kill myself when Bella refers to Edward as "her miracle", but I appreciate the lack of mental effort required in reading said 500pg book. This review is spot on, and it warms my heart to know that the target audience doesn't take the books too seriously, either.

Posted by: LB at November 22, 2008 8:52 AM

I can't tell you how much I loved that she didn't ever take back her statement that it was garbage. That, coupled with Unwashed Britboy dissing Meyers makes me so very, very happy. They know it's shit, and they know they can say it's shit, and they'll still get their millions. Damn, I hope these douchetards get their comeuppance. Move aside, Heigl, you've been outbitched.

But how would that work? Either the movie tanks, confirming their declaration that it was crap (which you seem to agree with them on); or it is successful, they make their brick, and they don't have to give a shit until the contractually-obligated sequel, giving them more money.

Plus, which is more annoying: an actor actually admitting their movie is crap, or an actor pretending like their movie is so wonderful and life-changing when everyone else knows it is crap? Are they supposed to be honest or feel beholden?

Oh -- and that the ACTRESS be NOT Very Good Looking. That she be, in fact, JUST good looking enough, but close enough to average that the pitter patting hearts in the audience can imagine themselves, in the not-too-distant future, as growing into that look someday... and winning themselves a Very Good Looking Actor of their Very Own.

Sooooo......the modern vampire movie = the female equivalent of the fat guy/hot girl coupling? Interesting. And puts a whole new spin on this Heigl comparison.

Posted by: Vermillion at November 22, 2008 9:22 AM

So yeah, I'm 22 and I read all the books. Like everyone has agreed, they are like crack. It was just nice to not watch shitty summer tv and actually use my brain.


Most of my friends read them too, and we laughed at the love story and how it was portrayed and how it could never, ever exist in the real world, outside of a 16-year-old's view of love. We all went to see the movie at midnight...and the movie was okay, but I think it was fun because we were all together and it's kind of a joke for us now. And Pattinson's reactions are so completely awkward it's amazing. I've never seen someone try to be so self-loathing as they gaze seductively into the camera..it's just amazing.



However, if there is a rich, hot male vampire with an need for someone to hang out/have hot vampire sex with forever (with the added bonus of never getting old), let me know.

Posted by: jvo at November 22, 2008 10:11 AM

The books are pretty amazing, not going to lie. However the movie made me want cry. I didn't really enjoy it.. At all. Yes, some parts were funny, and yes, some parts some-what cool, but seriously, they are better left in writing.

For the fans it moved to fast and they had to try and fill up the gaps in between each scene.

For the ones who have never read it, it moved too slow.

And walking into class four hours after returning home from the midnight premire, finding people talk about how great the movie was, made me want to pull an Alice and rip their heads off.

If there is another movie I'm sure it will be way better since when they started the film three years ago, it was a low budget film because they had no idea how popular it was going to get.

As for me, I'm just sticking to the books and my own imagination.

Posted by: wouldn't you like to know at November 22, 2008 10:15 AM

So ... nobody else misses Carl Kolchak? Nobody even knows who Carl Kolchak IS?

I'll just feel really old and slink away now.

*old slink old slink old slink*

Posted by: bucdaddy at November 22, 2008 10:26 AM

So ... nobody else misses Carl Kolchak? Nobody even knows who Carl Kolchak IS?

------------------------------------------

Keep your panties on, I know Kolchak, in fact without him, there wouldn't have been the X-Files.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 22, 2008 10:36 AM

Of course I love Kolchak. And Barnabas Collins, for that matter.

Posted by: frumpiefox at November 22, 2008 11:37 AM

Oh, and that other thread with all the Catherine Tate talk has inspired me to go all Sheila Carter on this whole "phenomenon" and fart on it, a loooooooooooooong wet fart.


FRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP, FRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

FRAP...FRAP...ffffrrrr.....

Oh yeah.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 22, 2008 12:16 PM

Yeah, I saw it last night with a theater full of twittering teens. You're right Dustin. They snickered at the rediculousness and swooned at the swoony parts.

But I gotta say, Rob Pattinson is a right sexy bastard. Momma's got a bit of a cougar crush I must say.

I also think that Kristen Stewart and Bella Swan are one and the same. She seemed like an insufferable bitch on the Today show the other day and played the same throughout the whole movie.

Posted by: wsapnin at November 22, 2008 12:21 PM

Reel Channel is showing a "from the set" special on this, RIGHT NOW. Gotta say, the black dude comes across cool and so does native american/werewolf dude, as well as parental figure vampire dude. But that chick man, WOW!

what a cunt.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 22, 2008 12:37 PM

Braving a room stuffed with hundreds of lust-crazed teenage girls, smelling of rainbows and pussy .... cats and loaded to the gills with raging hormones so we don't have to ...

Jeebus, Rowles, you're like ... like .... you're a fucking HERO is what you are! There should be some kind of monument to you, a ... I've got it! We should name a TOWN for you! That's it!

So may I present: Rowlesburg, W.Va. Go ahead, Google it with pride.

Yeah, you're right: The 'daddy gets shit DONE man.

Posted by: bucdaddy at November 22, 2008 12:49 PM

Vermillion you're right. But maybe, as someone up there pointed out, the best revenge would be for those two to get typecast for the rest of their lives. Then they'll go down the drain of being yet another teen-actor hasbeen who spent all their money trying to pleasure teen girls who are in love with vampires.

You know? If that's not coherent, I blame it on too little sleep and not being properly awake yet. *yawn*

Posted by: figgy at November 22, 2008 1:18 PM

Sometimes I like to write about my emotions irregardless of the stated topic. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night thinking about my position in the universe. On Friday I had a deep philosophical discussion with this guy that works for me, I told him I'm a big picture type of guy. My worker on occasion brings me down to his level and it totally fucks up my day, I don't need to think about bullshit. The fucking guy just don't understand what I'm trying to accomplish mentally. I told this fucking guy when I'm reading please don't stand over my shoulder because it totally fucks with me, and I can't be myself because I like to digest the shit I'm reading and I need a clear path to let my thoughts run free. And now that Christmas in coming he's going to want a big bonus which I don't mind paying, I give all of my guys bonuses, but this one fucking guy fucks with me so bad I'm starting to think he does it on purpose. I pay my guys real good, and I've taken them on vacation several times. Even when I had a girlfriend I would take all of my guys and their girlfriends on vacation. Maybe I should let this guy go out on his own so he will understand where I'm coming from.

Posted by: Pookie at November 22, 2008 1:51 PM

*clap* *clap* *clap*

That might have been THE mostest "alternative lifestyle" post here...ever.


You keep breaking new ground man, oh and, keep enjoying those Bahamian junkets with your....err... guys.


...and their, "girlfriends." *chuckles*

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 22, 2008 2:09 PM

Listen BSlim, you work your side of street and I'll work mine.

Posted by: Pookie at November 22, 2008 2:23 PM

...and besides, BSlim, you're supposed to work with me not against me. Poppa had Genco, and look what I got!

Posted by: Pookie at November 22, 2008 3:03 PM

I'm sorry Pajiba, I can't muster up the same kind of hate that all of you do based on these little books and movies. I would really like to though, I'd like nothing more then to be another one of the eloquents hyperbolically criticizing everything you hate. A lot of my friends are really into the books and enjoyed the movie. I know it is bad but I just can't muster up the kind of hate all of you think this deserves.

Posted by: greenman at November 22, 2008 4:49 PM

We were all waiting with unbridled enthusiasm for your declaration greenman, because after all, we really do give a fuck about what you have to say.

Posted by: Pookie at November 22, 2008 4:58 PM

Pookie,

I think I love you for two reasons:

1.) You used the word "irregardless"

2.) You want to be BFFs with BSlim

I hope you two kids work it out.

Posted by: Kayanne at November 22, 2008 5:08 PM

There's nothing to work out Kayanne, he left an opening, I'm just keeping him on his toes, I expect nothing less from him in return.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 22, 2008 5:29 PM

I've actually been fighting the almost-uncontrollable urge to give into my curiosity and see the movie. This review just might have snapped me back into reality, and for that, sir, I thank you. Thanks for taking one for the team.

Posted by: Sarah at November 22, 2008 6:41 PM

OHHHHHHHHHH JESUS CHRIST! A SUB! A JAP SUB!!


Oh, uh I mean.....apparently this bastard did really well yesterday. Big. So, maybe won't go the Eragon route after all, unfortunately (though I still expect the Rifftrax guys to be taking notes as we speak).

Posted by: Jay at November 22, 2008 7:14 PM

*Phil my man, cue Somebody's Gotta Die by B.I.G. *

*as Barbado loads up*

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 22, 2008 7:31 PM

It's ok B-Slim, I'm often attacked because of what I represent, heavy is the head that wears the crown.

Posted by: Pookie at November 22, 2008 7:51 PM

bitter male is bitter, because robert pattinson was hot as FUCK

Posted by: tory at November 22, 2008 9:13 PM

Riddle me this: If you are a centuries-old vampire who doesn't drink human blood, why the HELL are you attending high school?!?!?

Posted by: ciji at November 22, 2008 11:12 PM

The operative word is "romance" as in extraordinarily resilient genre since the 19th century: yearn (yes) after the hot but safe (respectful, not going to force you but will love YOU even though you are not the hottie) guy because, as my 14-year-old daughter said, plaintively, "All the boys my age act so stupid. Will I ever find anyone I can have a conversation with that I'll also like, you know, LIKE like?" She didn't finish the books, because she hated the Bella character, but allowed as how the movie was fun. I think it was the collective experience of unleashed unapologetic girlhood in a world of Hannah Montana.

Posted by: Joanna at November 22, 2008 11:18 PM

Lee, I thought we were nuking the 'fridge these days?

Posted by: ciji at November 22, 2008 11:21 PM

That's simple to answer ciji, maybe because those vampires wanted to experience going to high school instead of dropping out and getting a GED like so many teenagers do today. And as far as drinking blood is concerned, I wouldn't drink blood not even to get excepted into a fraternity.

Posted by: Pookie at November 22, 2008 11:32 PM

So...the sequel movie is in the works now. True story

Posted by: carolyn at November 23, 2008 1:05 AM

re: the mocking girls - ontd_twatlight.

Posted by: cmd at November 23, 2008 2:05 AM

THANK YOU. this was the funniest shit i've ever read.

Posted by: lolz at November 23, 2008 2:15 AM

I'm incredibly impressed by this depiction of the movie - it was entirely accurate (albeit your failing to mention how much of a total bitch Bella Swan is), and it made me laugh. I'm not entirely sure what the film's target audience is, but if I can be considered a part of it, I was incredibly unimpressed. And yet, just as you described, I couldn't look away. It was a complete trainwreck - the acting coupled with the direction and my annoyance of the characters was just a complete mess...and I couldn't bring myself to stand up and walk out. I think part of it was my yearning to stumble across at least one thing that would make me feel it was worth it, along with my not wanting to blow 9.50.

Posted by: Abby at November 23, 2008 2:30 AM

I bought the book at the airport waiting for a flight to NYC, just to see what all the fuss was about. I was a fan of vampire lit and wanted to see if the book lived up. This was before the tidal wave of backlash truly hit; all I'd heard were good reviews. I'm proud to say I found the book laughable, juvenile, unbelievable and repulsive, all on my own.

I saw the movie tonight, and I'm going to be honest. If the book were anything like the movie, I myself would be a Twilight fangirl. It was laughable, but charmingly so. Juvenile, but due to the restraint in content to maintain the rating instead of the grade eight literary stylings of the author. Unbelievable, but it IS a vampire movie, and the performances of the supporting characters were genuine enough to draw me in. Repulsive, not in the least. Granted, I still guffawed when Edward stepped into the light and became me circa 1999 after my first attempt at makeup, but Pattinson's overall portrayal of Edward was a thousandfold more rationalized and believable than Meyer's, and the actor playing Bella's father broke my heart.

I AM in the target audience. And since I'm three months since leaving home for the first time and living in another city, the theme of the importance of family spoke volumes to me, so much so that I got the worst attack of homesickness right then and there in the movie theatre. So I suppose I can explain away my appreciation of the film.

Posted by: Ling at November 23, 2008 3:38 AM

FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT!

Twilight is literary crack. We know is cheap and nasty, but once you start, it's hard to give it up. We love it, but we know it is utter shite.

Posted by: twatwaffle at November 23, 2008 5:21 AM

Seriously? Twilight is for teenage girls (and their mommies) what Ultimate Extreme Bloody Cauliflower Ears Fight Night is to teenage boys (and their daddies).

Don't bother trying to figure it out. It's bigger than you.

Posted by: MartDart at November 23, 2008 10:17 AM

First of all how many times do u have to take the same year in high school before they put you in special needs school?
second, "It turns out, the sun doesn't burn this strain of vampire; it turns them into Ziggy motherfucking Stardust" david bowie a vampire? now THAT makes sense.
and last but not least thank you thank you dustin for the buffy movie fondness, it was awesome in so many ways,
"They had this look in their eyes, totally cold, animal. I think they were young Republicans."
best quote ever

Posted by: rio at November 23, 2008 10:20 AM

I found this link. It is high-larious and contains links to even more hilarity:

http://io9.com/5096763/twilight-makes-for-the-best-fanwank-ever

Kill an hour exploring. You'll thank me.

Posted by: Jerce at November 23, 2008 12:30 PM

It was beautiful...last night I went to see Quantum of Solace (which I liked, but not nearly as good as Casino Royale) at a little theater that gets a nice mix of big movies and lots of smaller indie flicks. They had tons of Twilight posters in the window, which confused me until I noticed that they had painted over them on the outside of the windows with things like "Friends don't let friends see.." etc.

Posted by: Joe at November 23, 2008 12:45 PM

In all seriousness, if they want to keep interest in this they better start cranking up them sequels damned quick. And I mean like NOW, this reeks of backlash.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 23, 2008 12:49 PM

I agree with you BSlim, if they want to cash in on the vampire craze they should begin cranking them out like trailer trash crank out babies.

Posted by: Pookie at November 23, 2008 1:37 PM

"The Lost Boys for this generation's teen girls, I take it. But with an even lousier soundtrack. "
You take that back, ph! You take that back RIGHT NOW! How DARE you insult the glorious glory of The Lost Boys soundtrack?!
Posted by: TK at November 21, 2008 4:59 PM

"The Lost Boys for this generation's teen girls, I take it. But with an even lousier soundtrack. "

Hmmmm, what kind of person says something like that...?
Maybe someone who's not fond of, eh, I don't know...LIVING!
Posted by BarbadoSlim at November 21, 2008 5:12 PM

Wait! Did everyone but me know that TK and BSlim were the same person?!?

Damn Pajiba Dictionary! I learned NOTHING!

Posted by: dahlia mae at November 23, 2008 2:13 PM

Jerce, thanks so much for that link, that was HILARIOUS.

Posted by: Edith at November 23, 2008 3:31 PM

So a few of my friends and I went to see Twilight last night (we had all recently read the book for a class...in grad school. YA lit.) None of us really liked the books. We all found them immensely readable, and pretty awful. The movie, though, was so unintentionally hilarious. The first time they showed Edward, the entire theater burst into laughter. It was great. And you know, it was worth my $6 just for his term of endearment for Bella...which was "Spidermonkey." What the hell??

Posted by: ami at November 23, 2008 4:37 PM

Wonderful review. You were lucky too, since the audience you were with were not rabid fans.

I love to hate Twilight. It's so easy and fun. I normally wouldn't voice my opinion of hate so loudly if it wasn't for the extreme amount of love Twilight gets for some reason. I'd be content to let it all just blow over, except that, because I'm in High School, I see first hand the rabidness that these fans sink to.

I know of at least two cases where people were hospitalized for a negative opinion of Twilight. (A fan threw a brick at a girl's head) I know of a lot of girls dumping boyfriends because they were not exactly like Edward. I know of a few boys who will not go near any girls who like Twilight, because they will be criticized for not being exactly like Edward.

It's a bit disturbing, and I severly hope that all you adults are right when saying they won't take this seriously after a while.

Posted by: Bloofer Lady at November 23, 2008 5:32 PM

Pajiba I don't ask for much, but can you please not let these goddam teenagers come on here and fuck up our little slice of heaven. I can't publish my thoughts without worry about if I'm offending some goddam teenager. To all the teenagers out in pajibaville, get the fuck out of here.

Posted by: Pookie at November 23, 2008 6:11 PM

Hmm..you well and truly thrashed Twilight.High fives to you,dude ^^ ~

Personally I haven't read much of the books nor seen the movie,but from the prologue and ..first five paragraphs shown to me,it was horrible =D thanks for warning me to stay out of this,haha.

Posted by: ReonenMiruel at November 23, 2008 6:19 PM

I totally agree with Grinone (and all you others, I just scrolled down) that, as a former die-hard Harry Potter fan, these books certainly do not compare in the least. I'm a 19 year old college sophomore and I knew these books were stupid from the get-go. But, now onto the third book, I can't put them down. The dialogue is HORRIFIC. Teenagers talking about everlasting love? Marriage? GMAFB*. The ridiculously slow-building action is the only thing that keeps me sane whilst reading these. I'm curious to see the movie, although the trailers made it seem god-awful. The dialogue in the trailer was almost as bad as the real thing. Yikes.


*Give Me A Fucking Break

Posted by: Corinna at November 23, 2008 8:03 PM

ANother clearly brainless movie pushed into overhype by its own hype. Said hype is probably better than the movie.

The main reason for the success of the 'books' & this crappy celluloid reel is b/c most females have become braindead blobs.

They are now obnoxious, snotty, Pampered-Princess Syndrome-infected, narcissistic, I-can-be-just-like-a-man-just-better, I-don't-need-men-but-I-still-want-one-but-only-pansy-boys-I-can-control b/c I-can-have-abortions-whenever-I-want bitches.

Twilight offers the mild-flavoured fem-bots an opportunity to fulfill these urgent desires.

Yeah...I'm a female, btw.

Only a few of us are thinking with a functioning brain. I mean, I enjoy crap as much as the next person. I like reasonably plotted, well-acted vampire films, & it's good to sometimes have a different spin on things.

But not so much that you smash headfirst into a toilet bowl.

You can't blame the average, non-thinking 12-year-old for being enamoured with this glossy pastry crust. You can't blame the execs for taking advantage of the fem-bots. They need to sell a movie. You CAN blame yourselves for contributing to the panting. This insult does not deserve the kind of attention it's gotten.

If I like a crappy movie or book, I honestly tell people why I like it, but NOT that it's GOOD.

Curiously, I thought the same thing for Red Eye, the illogical crap with the illogically overrated McAdams. Only I suspected some people KNEW they were fooled out of their $10 when they walked out of Red Eye, but no one will know they upped their stupidity hormones after they see Twilight.

Evidence: Yahoo has a story on Twilight's success, where the director talks about how she's inspired women to be more active behind the camera. Think about that....

More curiously: This site & Rotten Tomatoes both gave Twilight well-deserved stinker ratings, but also both gave Red Eye suspiciously 'great, gotta-see-this!' reviews.

Hmm....maybe if Kristen Stewart had been in "The Scrapbook part 2", she would've been deemed a 'star-actress' like McAdams, then maybe the critics would've thought Twilight was 'a timeless masterpiece'????

They didn't give this enough hype, looks like...

Posted by: Stupid Fem-bots at November 23, 2008 8:04 PM

But somehow you're different than all the other skirts that fell for this tripe? Riiight, and I've got a ten inch man-hammer.

Posted by: Pookie at November 23, 2008 8:36 PM

Testing new crackberry, nothing to see here. Go on with regularly scheduled bitching..

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 23, 2008 8:53 PM

It's an interesting scene around these parts when the movie is marketed toward fangirls and not (for a change) fanboys.

Posted by: wsapnin at November 23, 2008 9:08 PM

Homo says what?

Posted by: Pookie at November 23, 2008 9:09 PM

Nobody's said it and it has to be said:

Bella? As in Lugosi?

Oh please.

Posted by: bucdaddy at November 23, 2008 9:17 PM

Bucdaddy you brought back fond memories by mentioning Bella Lugosi, my brother and I would watch "Creature Feature" every Saturday night when we were younger.

Posted by: Pookie at November 23, 2008 10:10 PM

No, I don't think Meyer knows who Bela Lugosi is, never mind Bauhaus.

No, seriously, I don't think she'd heard of him.

Posted by: Jay at November 23, 2008 10:18 PM

Of course there's teenage girls (and older) who enjoy twilight as trash. There's a large lj community called 'TWATLIGHT' dedicated to mocking it all.

My friends and I are going to see the movie fro laughs. Most likely drunk.

We can recognise cockblocking, Mary Sue fanfiction like the next person.

I mean, Edward shows his love for Bella by cutting her brakes. That's creepy funny.

Sure, some girls (and grown women with families, see 'TwiMoms') take it oh so seriously. But same can be seen with some teenage (and older) guys and comics of dubious quality.

Definitely crack. That's how it was introduced to me!
That and people changing the Wikipedia entry to more accurately reflect the books e.g. "and Edward and Bella fell deeply in love despite neither one possessing a personality" etc.

Posted by: Samantha at November 23, 2008 10:47 PM

Of course there's teenage girls (and older) who enjoy twilight as trash. There's a large lj community called 'TWATLIGHT' dedicated to mocking it all.

My friends and I are going to see the movie for laughs. Most likely drunk.

We can recognise cockblocking, Mary Sue fanfiction like the next person.

I mean, Edward shows his love for Bella by cutting her brakes. That's creepy funny.

Sure, some girls (and grown women with families, see 'TwiMoms') take it oh so seriously. But same can be seen with some teenage (and older) guys and comics of dubious quality.

Definitely crack. That's how it was introduced to me!
That and people changing the Wikipedia entry to more accurately reflect the books e.g. "and Edward and Bella fell deeply in love despite neither one possessing a personality" etc.

Posted by: Samantha at November 23, 2008 10:47 PM

$70.6 million. $70.6 fuckin' million.

I'd slit my wrists, but that would attract (non-vegetarian) vampires.
+++
Pookie,

Yeaaaaah. In Pittsburgh it was "Chiller Theater" with "Chilly Billy" Cardille on Saturday nights (Google images "Terminal Stare" for some hotness, she was one of his sidekicks). Chilly has a cameo or two in the original "Night of the Living Dead." I think he's the reporter to whom the sheriff says the famous line: "They're dead, they're ... all messed up."

When I was a kid I would occasionally stay at an aunt and uncle's place in the Cleveland suburbs and caught a Ghoulardi once or twice. That shit was nuts. He has an interesting backstory worth Wikiing.

Posted by: bucdaddy at November 23, 2008 10:48 PM

I want to personally thank pajiba for not revoking my ability to post my thoughts, I've had the unfortunate pleasure of being kicked off of several web sites because my thoughts somehow disturbed some of the members. This is the longest I've been able to be a part of a website, and because of this I want to once again thank pajiba.

Posted by: Pookie at November 23, 2008 11:05 PM

I normally love love love Kristen Stewart, but...yeah, even she couldn't do anything with this material.

Posted by: Mimi at November 24, 2008 2:37 AM

Yeah, this film, well...I wrote a review as well. Here:

http://nightwindows.net/2008/11/23/tween-of-the-damned/

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at November 24, 2008 4:32 AM

please don't PAY to see this ...
at least 10% is going to the Mormon church.

Giving your money to crazy people is never a good thing

Posted by: sarah at November 24, 2008 7:56 AM

It turns out, the sun doesn't burn this strain of vampire; it turns them into Ziggy motherfucking Stardust.

It's lines like this that will keep me coming back to this site for a very long time.

Anyway, everything comes to a head over a vampire baseball game (don't ask -- Meyer apparently couldn't think of a Quidditch equivalent for vampires, so she decided to throw down some retardation).

And this. The insinuation that Meyer is a low-IQ variant of the mediocre Rowling is pitch-perfect.

I've had to listen to my fifteen year-old daughter gush about this movie all weekend, and then I heard on the radio this morning that not only was this the highest grossing movie premiere (in blockbuster territory at $70+ million) this weekend but it was also the highest grossing premiere by a female director ever. Women say they want respect and then they go pull stunts like this? Oh well, I guess guys have to account for mindless dreck like Transformers.

What are the sentient among us to do?

Posted by: Che Grovera at November 24, 2008 8:24 AM

I love it when the comments gain steam over the weekends. It leaves me with something to do besides work on a Monday morning until Dustin publishes the box-office roundup, which is going to cause some Pajiban to have an aneurysm.

What are the sentient among us to do?

Drink heavily, Che, and wait patiently for the Zombie and/or Spambot Apocalypse.

Posted by: branded at November 24, 2008 8:55 AM

All I could think of when I saw the dude sparkling in the sunlight was "A million f@!*king diamonds!"

Posted by: Megan at November 24, 2008 11:05 AM

I would never go see this in a million years, and couldn't give one squat about the story or the audience.

Realy just wanted to say "WAY TO GO!!!" for the Toad reference from BTVS. The kicked ass!

Posted by: Toafd Rulez! at November 24, 2008 2:53 PM

I love your reviews. LOVE THEM!

Posted by: aejr at November 24, 2008 3:38 PM

um, spanish soap operas don't have accents because everyone is speaking in SPANISH (unless you count regional/country accents, which you can't probably identify)

Posted by: Martika at November 24, 2008 3:55 PM

"rural Washington"?? What are we, Nebraska??

Posted by: gbs at November 24, 2008 11:08 PM

I read the first 2 books and was not impressed. I can only imagine what schlock the movie turned out to be. My 60 year old virgin co-worker loved it, guess that speaks volumes, she also gave me a poster for Space Chimps.

I'm not sure if I agree with the idea that the audience is in on the joke. I'm a librarian and I get asked for this crap at least 5 or 6 times a day, from a myriad of people (usually female, very occasionally male). I've found the typical reader is either a pre-teen looking for parent approved smut or a middle-aged fangbanger trying to recapture their youth. They're serious, yo.

I however, will see it at the $2 movies, with several other librarians, who are looking forward to smuggling in baby bottles of Jack and yelling back at the screen. We all need hobbies.

Posted by: Porkchop at November 25, 2008 1:53 AM

What an epic cocktease of a movie. Should have just waited for the porn adaptation so I could have at least had some steamy vampire sex with my romance novel fluff.

Posted by: Erica O. at November 25, 2008 11:24 AM

An overwhelming majority of the girls at the high school I'm student teaching at are IN LOVE with the book series. They've read all of them (many are rereading), and the very word "Twilight" brings a paean of delight, while I couldn't even slog through Book 1. I don't understand the appeal, and I guess I never will (unless girls these days find bloodsucking arousing...).

I do look forward to trashing the movie version, and this review excites me even more.

Posted by: bonnie at November 25, 2008 5:18 PM

Save yourself $10 and 2 hours of your life: (Illustrated) Twilight in 15 Minutes.

Posted by: Camera Obscura at November 25, 2008 10:42 PM

This movie is a waste of $10.00. Admittedly, I have the whole series. I got sucked in on a flight to Honolulu and couldn't put down the book until I found out what happened to both of them. As for the book, I'd say get a library loan. I'm about to give them to my neighbor since she's a big fan. I don't really like any of the characters aside from Jacob, who atleast had a bit of interesting characterization, but it didn't redeem the whole series. My point is don't waste your money. I wanted the director and the screen-play writer to make the series richer or give it a little more oomph, and they disappointed me. Imo, this flick should've been straight to DVD.

Posted by: carrie at November 26, 2008 2:57 AM

Okay, love all the entries! Love 'em! Let me preface this by saying that I love hardback books. Not paperbacks, just harbacks.

My living room is a library. Just last week, my sister suggested getting rid of a couple of floor to ceiling bookcases. I'm like all, WHAT? I need f***ing MORE! That said, as for any alleged comparison of Twilight to the Harry Potter books, there is none, in my humble opinion. I purchased all four Twilight saga books on eBay, read them all, and like any addiction, really wanted to like them, to be "in" and "with it", a total twiguy. I finally finished them, and, yep, put them right back on eBay where I only lost a buck in the whole transaction. I would have spent more in gas going to the library. So now I'm green? However, having also bought all seven HP books (hey Steph, what was wrong with writing seven books like JR, but thank you, God, that she didn't). I proudly show off my HP books and encourage all visitors to borrow them and read them. Somehow, I couldn't muster the same enthusiasm with Twilight. Plus, reading Twilight, I never once wanted to bang Bella. I knew something was wrong! Rosalie, of course.

I did enjoy The Host, also my Meyer, a little more, but just too much in the loveyougottahaveyou theme. At least the heroine had balls.

I'll see this film but only after it gets to pay-per-view and I can watch with the aid and assistance of a couple of Ambiens! And lastly, a review from www.kansascity.com actually said "Twilight" makes abstinence HOT, and about the Pacific northwest, dreary is dreamy. Um, excuse the f**k out of me. How appropriate the movie was released in the "turkey" season.

Love to you all!

Posted by: bsider at November 26, 2008 11:37 AM

So this is how I looked at Twilight the movie. I think overall it got bad reviews because it wasn't "exactly like the book" and because it was really cheesy and tacky at moments. But the thing is, the book is really cheesy. Now don't get me wrong, its addicting and amazing, but it's ultra cheesy at moments. I think when people read and are given the oppurtunity to imagine what each situation would be like, they look past what the situation really is. People went into the movie expecting to see what they imagined, but what they saw was what Stephanie Meyer and the director imagined. I mean what did you think it was going to look like when Edward sucked the venow out of Bella and when Edward first "smelled" Bella's scent. Of course it was going to look funny and probably stupid.
Overall though, I liked the movie. I thought it was an okay summary of the book. I liked all the little changes in the movie and how the directors didn't give page-by-page dialouge. I'd give it 3 1/2 stars out of 5.

Posted by: Lauren at November 27, 2008 10:07 AM

So this is how I looked at Twilight the movie. I think overall it got bad reviews because it wasn't "exactly like the book" and because it was really cheesy and tacky at moments. But the thing is, the book is really cheesy. Now don't get me wrong, its addicting and amazing, but it's ultra cheesy at moments. I think when people read and are given the oppurtunity to imagine what each situation would be like, they look past what the situation really is. People went into the movie expecting to see what they imagined, but what they saw was what Stephanie Meyer and the director imagined. I mean what did you think it was going to look like when Edward sucked the venow out of Bella and when Edward first "smelled" Bella's scent. Of course it was going to look funny and probably stupid.
Overall though, I liked the movie. I thought it was an okay summary of the book. I liked all the little changes in the movie and how the directors didn't give page-by-page dialouge. I'd give it 3 1/2 stars out of 5.

Posted by: Lauren at November 27, 2008 10:08 AM

"But Bella isn't scared of Edward, most likely because Bella is kind of an idiot and probably doesn't realize what her menstrual cycle is gonna do to that poor boy."

HAHAHAHAHA.

Posted by: Dina at November 27, 2008 12:04 PM

Ha ha ha ha - LOVED your review! I read the book and it was OK, and I am going to take my little sibling to see it when she comes for a visit; it's probably going to be one of those movies I didn't mind seeing but would have preferred only renting so as to not waste so much money on it...
Have you thought of the effect of this movie on these teens? I'm looking into that, and I have to admit, it's quite fascinating!
Great review! I agree with a lot of your ideas. I did like some of the newer twists (vegetarian vampires, lol!) on the old story. Have you read the rest? Have you seen the movie? And have you had the chance to talk to some teens about it? If not, I have, and here are the first of many posts on what I am learning about teens high on Twilight: http://saharsblog.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/the-puzzle-that-are-obsessions-or-wow-how-teenagers-love-edward-cullen/

Posted by: Sahar at November 27, 2008 9:26 PM

I thought the casting was great I really felt like they connected with their characters. I feel like the movie fell short with the directing and the screenwriting. It needed to be longer because too much of the book was cut out and anyone who hadn't read the book would have been confused and lost. Not to mention they would be missing out on some of the details that make the book so amazing. I really was hoping that the movie would have portrayed the book much better, and i hope that the sequel follows this classic novel much better then this one did. Oh and bravo to rob and kristen!!!

Posted by: Kait Webber at November 28, 2008 2:06 AM

Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart both look like deformed hydrocephalitic inbreds. Every time the trailer plays on TV and their enormous misshapen skulls fill the frame, I throw up a little.

Posted by: Bleh at November 28, 2008 3:30 AM

"It needed to be longer because too much of the book was cut out and anyone who hadn't read the book would have been confused and lost."

I don't think this at all. I went with a group of friends and about half of them hadn't read the books. By the end of the movie, everyone loved and understood the plot.

Posted by: Sharon at November 28, 2008 5:32 PM

"It needed to be longer because too much of the book was cut out and anyone who hadn't read the book would have been confused and lost."

I don't think this at all. I went with a group of friends and about half of them hadn't read the books. By the end of the movie, everyone loved and understood the plot.

Posted by: Sharon at November 28, 2008 5:32 PM

This review makes me want to watch the movie for the sole purpose of developing a higher level of creative lambasting because it seems that that is one of the pros when someone with taste watches it.. Hahahaha.

Posted by: Rapi at November 29, 2008 4:22 AM

Dear Girlnone,

You're right about the region Dustin lives in. The teenagers in Maine are slightly different than your normal everywhere!else teenager. If there's no snow-mobiling or four-wheeling in it, they won't take it seriously.

Also, no Mainer could ever identify with a girl who complains about having to wear waterproof clothing.

Posted by: hexadecimal at November 30, 2008 4:37 PM

Very, Very Good Looking Actors.

Brad Pitt, this Robert Pattinson guy and the man who plays Bill the Vampire in Trueblood.

MaryScott speaks truth. I was never so flabbergasted as when my then-barely-fiftysomething mom escorted my teenage butt to the THEATER (she does not go to theaters for childhood ingrained religious reasons) to see "Interview with the Vampire."

I did not ask her to do this. I neither brought up the topic nor suggested the outing. Nor was I anything remotely close to a horror buff. (And I don't think she enjoyed the blood-n-guts in the slightest. She talks trash about the film to this day. But...y'know... BRAD PITT.)

I was...nonplussed.

Posted by: Mac at December 1, 2008 5:49 PM

ya this was a really good movie i heard,,,, my friend heather and kyleigh told me it was awesome!!! hopefully i can get out and see it.... but EDWARD is so hott :) hes my hottiee :p

Posted by: Taylor V at December 2, 2008 1:59 PM

But do u know who would make a way better edward,,, JOHNNY DEPP the hottest man alive :p and everyone knows that ;) he can always play better roles then anybody and LOOOK better ;)

Posted by: Taylor V at December 2, 2008 2:02 PM

But do u know who would make a way better edward,,, JOHNNY DEPP the hottest man alive :p and everyone knows that ;) he can always play better roles then anybody and LOOOK better ;)

Posted by: Taylor V at December 2, 2008 2:02 PM

johnny depppp is a better edward ;)

Posted by: Taylor V at December 2, 2008 2:03 PM

THE TWILIGHT SERIES ARETHE WORST BOOKS EVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOOK WRITING.END OF STORY. CASE CLOSED. THE N***** HAS SPOKEN!!!

Posted by: Darryl at December 2, 2008 2:09 PM

johnny is handsome alright. but hes too OLD for this.

Posted by: autumn at December 7, 2008 11:15 AM

1. The books i must admit, yes, were addictive but being a teenager were actually a fun read.2.The movie however with inagreence to what you said was tragic...and if it hadnt been for Robert Pattinson, i would have gotten up and left. It was ridiculous!!!!

Posted by: Sam at December 10, 2008 12:08 AM

i love twilight.
your of full of shit.

Posted by: becccc. at December 13, 2008 5:19 AM

i love twilight.
your of full of shit.

Posted by: becccc. at December 13, 2008 5:22 AM

Ami is absolutely correct. Everyone burst out laughing as soon as edward came in to view. priceless.
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I have read all four books and yes i was obsessed like most teenage girls, but seriously, it's gone way too far! In my opinion, the book isn't too bad, maybe a little bit too long but not bad. The movie raped the book series. The movie is nothing like the book and ten times worse. So if you've only seen the movie and hate ut, don't think it's like the book. My friends and i went to see it (in australia)and we laughed all the way through at how terrible the acting was and how corny it was as well.
We're going to see it again just to laugh even more. But i have to admit bella's father, charlie, did an awesome as job.
It's pretty sad how girls are dumping their boyfriends just because they aren't "Edward Cullen". Come one! NO GUY is going to be him (200 years old, a vampire, mature at the age of 17 or sefless ALL the time). It's not real.

Thank you Dustin for posting this review. Excellent summary, couldn't get it anymore accurate especially with the teenage girls making a joke out of the movie :)

Posted by: maddi at December 13, 2008 10:50 PM

Priceless review. Seriously. The sad part is... the movie is ten times better than the actual Twatlight book. Bella actually seemed to have something of a spine in the movie, something she lacked any evidence of in the books. And while the acting was terrible, I don't fault the actors--they didn't have much material to work with. No matter who was playing the roles, they would have done as bad or worse, because no movie based on this series could actually be considered 'good'.

The sad thing is, twihards tend to see the problems with this movie (save those that are just as fanatical about loving the movie as they are about the books) though they don't realize that these problems parallel many in the series that they /didn't/ see. It's really quite funny.

Anyway, great review Dustin.

Posted by: smoke at December 14, 2008 12:40 PM

Dustin, you have a lot to learn about teens. Don't get me wrong - there are plenty annoying teenie bopers who are as ignorant as hell and desperatly chase each fad and cling to it until the next one comes a'rolling by. But there are other kinds of teens, too. There are the shriveled, bitter, sarcastic teens who dare to be witty. There are the bitchy, self-centered teens who actually have the balls to say what they really think about all this box-ofice bullshit. There are teens who are 'cool' in your sense - you just have to know where to look for them. Don't give up on all teens just because most of them have hideous, unberable personalities that make most want to gouge out their ears and eyes with the nearest pointy object. There are, and hopefully will always be, at least a few teens who are pretty damn dfferent from the rest.

Posted by: SierraBee at December 15, 2008 6:43 PM

Trolling for jailbait.

Dustin wants to bang all the underage girls in a vampire orgy.

I salute you.

Posted by: troll at December 16, 2008 12:11 AM

Well...I just published a review of the movie and I would love if someone could prove me that I am wrong...
It won't be easy, tho.
http://tinyurl.com/3ot2do

Posted by: BabelTallinn at December 18, 2008 7:39 AM

You don't have a clue what your on about. The bad reviews are only because they were all written by balding middle age men who can't remember what it is like to be a teenager. This film may not be your cup of tea but for it's TARGET AUDIENCE it is the perfect movie. Millions are obsessed with this amazing book and now the film and for good reason, so regardless of what idiots like you think Twilight will make a lot of well deserved money and make a lot of girls happy.

Posted by: Twilight rules at December 19, 2008 4:11 PM

look dude! you're absolutely and utterly full of shit! the movie was awesome and millions of people (not just teenage girls) have seen it and loved it! as for you and many IDIOT LOSER men who hate this movie, my guess is that u guyz are all losers who don't have the ability to comprehend any movie that doesn't star Steven Segul or Will Ferrell! so my advice is: next time you wanna review a movie, make a habit of actually WATCHING it instead of stalking teen girls, checking out their clothes, or eavesdropping on their convo.
EDWARD CULLEN IS HOT! EDWARD CULLEN IS HOT!

Posted by: cullen's fan at December 21, 2008 3:10 PM

look dude! you're absolutely and utterly full of shit!

the movie was awesome and millions of people (not just teenage girls) have seen it and loved it! As for you and many IDIOT LOSER men who hate this movie, my guess is that u guyz are all losers who don't have the ability to comprehend any movie that doesn't star Steven Segul or Will Ferrell!

so my advice is: next time you wanna review a movie, make a habit of actually WATCHING it instead of stalking teen girls, checking out their clothes, or eavesdropping on their convo.
EDWARD CULLEN IS HOT! EDWARD CULLEN iS HOT!!

Posted by: cullen's fan at December 21, 2008 3:13 PM

Thank you so much for this! Best and most accurate review for Twilight EVER.

Mike R.: Can't wait for the Book 1 haha... Profit!!

Posted by: starried. at December 23, 2008 10:43 AM

"Twatwaffle" is quite possibly the best thing I've ever heard.

Posted by: brigitte at December 29, 2008 1:19 PM

You'll fnd me rediculous. I loved the books (being a total loser, of course), hated the movie though I want it, and wanted to watch it again. And I'm not a fan girl that wants to be Isabella Swan, or wants to marry Edward. Shocking, I know. I was doing the same thing many of those girls were doing. Talking about how bad it would be.

I think it's funny how fangirls (or guys) are on here telling you that you are full of shit. They are yelling at you for having an opinion and then they give you their opinion. You have th right to your opinion just as they have the right to theirs. If they want to state it they should yell at you about giving yours. Just wanted to state that.

I'm one of those teenage girls that will respect your opinion, I won't tell you how I think you're wrong about the movie. Quite frankly, in a way, you are correct. I was going to pinpoint how different the movie was going to be from the book, instead I got sucked in and walked out of the theatre with a jaded expression on my face. It's a dull movie, and it's like hearing a lecture for hours from a monotoned teacher. Droning on about nothing in particular.

Bella, she seemed egotistical to me, always talking about herself. Edward was a hardass. Jacob (though I presonally love his wolfyness) was too much of a twelve year old girl for me.

All that ^, and from a fan.

To the fans:
Imagine that people, I have a life, just enough of a life to not fall in-love (head-over-heels) for a fictional character in a book, that will never come to life magically. AND NO, ROBERT PATTENSON IS NOT EDWARD. HE portrayed EDWARD, there is a difference, learn it.

Posted by: Megan at January 7, 2009 4:27 PM

*the
*shouldn't

Got in a hurry and didn't read over what I typed.
Sorry, sometimes having spelling errors bothers me.

(I'm weird like that).

Posted by: Megan at January 7, 2009 4:31 PM

i havn't seen the movie yet but i love the books


to be onest i'm a little afraid to see it :(

Rob Pattinson is sooooooo hott!! :)

Posted by: Holly at January 9, 2009 11:29 AM

I cant believe this movie did so well in the Box Office... it boggles my mind that Americans could spend so much money on such a horrible film. It reminded me of a real cheap Fox movie. I admit I saw it too lol But I had to go, i was on a date, and I didn't even know what the movie was about.

Man, when I think about the great films like "Milk," only making a fraction of what Twilight made, it's pretty sad where the average American's interests are...

Posted by: Talon at January 10, 2009 12:03 AM

I think Stephanie Myers could have easily condensed all four books into one. I actually read from Chapter five, and then skipped to the end of Eclips, and I still knew what was going on. When you can skip 108 pages in a book and still know what's going on, it's a crappy book.

Posted by: Furby at January 12, 2009 3:27 AM

I don't care if people would disagree with you and flame you for this.
I practically laughed my ass off when reading your review, because it was not only funny as hell but also very very honest. Bluntly so, in fact.
Good job, man.

Posted by: BloodSugar at January 13, 2009 5:42 PM

first,
twilight is amazing.
second,
it doesnt matter what you say because your a piece of CRAP!
o and three,
FUCK YOU!!!

Posted by: i love edward anothony cullen:) at January 14, 2009 5:30 PM

first,
twilight is amazing.
second,
it doesnt matter what you say because your a piece of CRAP!
o and three,
FUCK YOU!!!

Posted by: i love edward anothony cullen:) at January 14, 2009 5:30 PM

i don't understand what is the appeal of Robert Pattinson (Edward); he has an unusually shaped nose

Posted by: coffee at January 17, 2009 5:32 PM

Came back and the teenagers are gunning for your blood, Dustin. ROFL.. I wanna hug the "I love Robert Pattinson, marry Edward Cullen, slash my wrist, suck my blood please" teenage horde. Y'all are hilarious.

Posted by: tallulahc at January 18, 2009 2:11 PM

OMG!I Love Robbert Pattison so much and the movie was like totally awsome i cant belive people think its stupid its like totaly awsome im downloading it on my ipod and buying the movie beacause of how much i love it i just need breaking dawn to complete the book series i cant wait till new moon comes out and eclipse ohh also breakindg dawn of course lol!

Posted by: Vanessa at January 18, 2009 2:56 PM

Oh my goodness, 'I want my money back!' I won't even watch this for free. The acting and special effects is horrendous. I haven't seen such ridiculous make-up since i saw tobey maguire sporting his black eyeliner - loved spiderman 3 though. Even though I haven't read any of the books about these lipstick-wearing monkeys i don't think it would have changed anything, or maybe i would have known to take some whiskey into the theater with me.

Posted by: sin07 at January 21, 2009 9:27 AM

What a stupid book and movie, can't believe people even read this crap.

Posted by: TwilightSucksBalls at January 21, 2009 4:50 PM

This movie's dumb. Seriously dumb. I kept thinking of it as an unintentional comedy. The little plot there is is so ridiculous I couldn't help laughing. I doubt the director and actors were in on the joke though. It looked too serious.

Vampire: "I'm a vampire"
Girl: "That's ok. Love is unconditional"
Vampire: "I'm a murderer"
Girl: "But I love you"
Vampire:"I want to suck your blood"
Girl: "But I trust you"

Give me a break.

Posted by: barf at January 31, 2009 6:49 AM

Ahaha!! Your comment is absolutely wonderful, hit the dooshbag right on the spot!

In defense of all teenage girl with common sense and self-respect however, I must say that not all of us are like that. Some girls actually have brains instead of marshmallows.

Personally, I've never seen a vampire movie, but I'll checkout Twilight just for the pure lulz of it. It'd make a good laugh.

Twilight sucks, an epic fail to the end.

Sign out. :p

Posted by: Twilight gives America Literature a Bad Name at February 9, 2009 3:46 PM

all of you are so dense and lifeless.
the only reason you people are dissing Twilight is because it is so popular and amazing. all of you are just jealous because the shit you like sucks. you all just can't deal with the fact that Twilight and everything that has to do with Twilight is beloved all over the world. well i guess haters are inevitable with something so amazing. All of you should get a life or a hobby.

Posted by: *L at March 1, 2009 9:10 PM





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