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Auteur vs. Schreiber Theory, Tales From the Script, and the Filmmaking Process

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Film Reviews | Comments (27)



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I wanted very badly to believe in the Schreiber theory — the belief that the principal author of a film is generally the screenwriter rather than the director — because I come from a writer-ly background (the use of the word writer-ly notwithstanding). It makes the most sense to me. But after watching Tales From the Script, processing yesterday’s exercise, and poring over the comments, I can’t subscribe to a theory which holds that the surest predictor of the quality of a film lies in the screenwriter. There are too many examples of well-thought-of directors making good films based on the scripts of mediocre screenwriters, and not enough examples of bad directors making good movies based on the scripts of well-thought-of screenwriters. Filmmaking is a process, and there are a great many factors that influence the outcome of a film — talent, editing, casting, production — but if any one factor has to be weighed the heaviest, the overwhelming evidence suggest it’s the job of the director.

As many have suggested (and as was mentioned in the comments yesterday), film is a director’s medium and television is a writer’s medium. Aaron Sorkin is a solid indicator of that rule. When you watch a Sorkin television show — “Sports Night,” “West Wing,” “Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip” — you know it’s a Sorkin show. When I read the script for The Social Network (the “Facebook Movie”) last year, I knew it was a Sorkin script. But outside of a few flourishes (Michael Douglas’ big speech), neither The American President nor A Few Good Men felt like Sorkin films. And my guess is that The Social Network will feel more like a David Fincher film than a Sorkin one (Charlie Wilson’s War provides a decent counter-illustration, however. That did feel more like a Sorkin movie than a Mike Nichols movie).

Perhaps inadvertently, the brilliant documentary Tales from the Script — a must watch for any aspiring screenwriter or, really, anyone interested in the filmmaking process — does an excellent job of ironically demonstrating the auteur theory. In interviewing a slew of well-known to obscure (but oftentimes prolific) screenwriters, Tales from the Script highlights just what a crapshoot the screenwriting profession can be. It explores the script writing process, as well as the screenwriter’s relationship with the producer, director, and talent. The genesis for yesterday’s exercise came from the documentary, specifically the realization that William Goldman — one of the most consistently fantastic screenwriters in the history of Hollywood — did a significant re-write on The Last Action Hero at the request of Arnold Schwarzenegger, who wanted Goldman to bring in an emotional element to the story, one that I presume director John McTiernan — who doesn’t have a lot of experience with emotional depth — couldn’t bring from the page to the screen. That notion brought home just how powerful the role of director is, and Guinevere Turner — who wrote American Psycho and The Notorious Bettie Page (both Mary Harron efforts) — further illustrated the point when she spoke about her efforts with Bloodrayne, claiming that Uwe Boll snatched an incomplete first draft away from her, and even then, only 20 percent of what she wrote made it from the page to the screen. That was most certainly a Uwe Boll film and not a Guinevere Turner one.

Indeed, there’s simply too much standing between the screenwriting process and the final product for a screenwriter to have too much influence. There are countless rewrites, tons of producer input; actors ad-lib, directors install their own vision, and editors set the pace and piece together the story. There are exceptions, of course. Sorkin could be one; Kevin Smith might be one if someone else — a weak auteur — directed his work; and Diablo Cody’s voice might be strong enough to survive the process (although, so far, the quality of her two efforts has been consistent with the quality of those directors). Indeed, while you could posit plenty of exceptions, in the end, I think that’s what they are: exceptions. Ultimately, it’s the director’s vision that trumps or, if the studio gets too involved, it’s the editor’s vision that survives. There really aren’t a lot of films that carry a screenwriter’s imprimatur.

Indeed, for a writer’s style to really break through, he or she either needs to also direct the movie — Tarantino, Kevin Smith, Paul Thomas Anderson, etc. — or have a relationship with the director that allows writer input well into the process — Christopher McQuarrie and Bryan Singer, Shane Black and Richard Donner, etc. (You’d think that John August and Tim Burton might fit into that category, but in Script, August revealed that — over the entire course of their working relationship — they’ve only spent a total of 24 hours or so together). But in all of those cases, it’s still difficult to determine whether the ultimate vision was that of the writer or director (or in the case where it’s the same person, whether his role as director or his role as writer made the biggest impact).

Of course, that’s just my opinion, and both the Schreiber and auteur theories are theories; they’re unproven, and I doubt — given all the elements involved — that they can be proven. There are simply no real control factors in filmmaking.

In either respect, yesterday’s exercise brought out the very best in the folks around here: There were a lot of intelligent, well-thought-out comments. I think I could spend hours back-and-forthing with a lot of the comments (and contemplated pulling an all-nighter to do just that). It was a fascinating discussion of film theory that never felt like a discussion of film theory. Odnon captured the spirit of the point succinctly (“The pen is, indeed, not mightier than the Pork Sword”); Kyle properly expressed much of it; Yossarian, as always, was eloquent in his opinions; I liked Theresa’s blueprint theory (and agree with it, for the most part); pausner deftly rebutted the blueprint theory; Reba had some nice thoughts about the influence of the director; DoctorControversy noted that writers may not be best suited to direct their own material (given the many examples of great writer/directors, I’m not sure I agree with that, however); I think chewster was right about the fact that a bad director can’t make a good movie out of even the best script; screenwriters are at the mercy of the director, as Tammy suggested; I think yocean and others were right about the ultimate lack of influence a screenwriter has; while Slash appropriately noted that no one person can truly be at fault. Brenton is totally right about True Romance (but I think that’s another exception to the rule); C. Robert Dimitri was very much right about the importance of not devaluing the importance of a screenwriter; and Gamal pointed out a potential flaw in the auteur theory as it concerns animated films; I definitely think there’s something to bluejayone’s point about a screenplay of a scribe’s own making versus one they are assigned to write; ThingOfThings was right that a good script is useless without a good director; and CptCrckpot was also right about the importance of a director’s selection process. .

Like I said, a lot of really well thought out points, many of them contradictory but seemingly no less true. However, the cake is not a lie (as GLaD0s suggested, nor is it a fruitcake, as jM suggested). It is real, and I think that — in the end — the cake goes to Barnes78, who best expressed what I was trying to say at the outset (even if what I was trying to say was not necessarily right).

So, Barnes78, send me your address, and I’ll make you a cake. Unless you live outside of the United States — I can’t send cake overseas, not unless you like moldy cake. Otherwise, I do hope that the conversation might continue today, and I strongly recommend watching Tales From the Script, which will go a long way toward informing your opinion (it’s available on Netflix Instant).









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Comments

OK, this has nothing to do with cake, but there is no way to post comments on the Dr. Who thread. Thanks, BWeaves out.

(So, sorry. The radio button to turn off comments was inadvertently clicked. Comments are back, and my apologies for the delay. -- DR

Posted by: BWeaves at June 22, 2010 2:03 PM

Wow. Over five years of lurking and I finally get a name mention! Yay!

The more I think of this and more I read your post, I am more convinced I should be a writer mainly for TV and Theatre and movie for money. I did consider being a writer-director but there's so much more you can do when you let other influence your work. I experienced first hand, with a short play of mine that got staged and turned from my first serious play to the funniest dark comedy about revenge and cannibalism, that a director can bring out the real story you wrote. I just want more respects assigned to screenwriters for all the hatchet and traps they endure. As a joke goes, Screenwriters are so powerless in Hollywood that only Polish prostitutes would sleep with them. That's doubly offensive, really.

Posted by: yocean at June 22, 2010 2:07 PM

It's offensive to prostitutes, yocean. No one sleeps with the screenwriter.

Posted by: RobP at June 22, 2010 2:11 PM

So, do I have to go back and read the comments to find out what he said? I get to read the runners up, but not the winner? I don't have enough interest or attention span for that!

Posted by: jen at June 22, 2010 2:13 PM

Thanks Dustin!

Posted by: BWeaves at June 22, 2010 2:21 PM

yocean, I think it would be marvelous if you changed your handle to The Winner of Cake.

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Posted by: clark23 at June 22, 2010 2:40 PM

Cleaning up Dustin's mess, here is the original post from Barnes78 (he probably rightly concluded that he had rambled on too much to include another big paragraph of unbroken text in the body of the post):

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Screenplays, overall, rarely get praised on their own merit. You can yell 'foul!' and point out the lists of Oscar winners, but I'll stand by my point. Find one of those winners from the last 25 years that was either praised or critically recognized as a stand alone accomplishment. You won't be able to. While a good (or even brilliant) director can elevate an average or even shitty script, the opposite isn't true. You can count on one hand the number of times a screenplay has actually elevated the game of the director. On top of that, you rarely have repeat nominee's (or winners) in the screenwriting categories at AMPAS. And I'm talking about folk who simply write (the Almodvoar's and such don't count). While I still hate to admit it, the heartbeat of a film fluctuates between the director and/or producer. A shitty director makes an average script look that much worse while a brilliant director (even if the director just has technical brilliance) can, and often does, elevate a script regardless of its quality. But to be fair, there are moments where a sublime script finds the right director and true art emerges. Imagine 'The Ice Storm' directed by Shawn Levy as opposed to Ang Lee. Imagine 'Munich' as directed by Michael Bay. Horrifying possibilities that should leave us all in nightmares. The unfortunate rule is that a good screenplay is only as good as the director behind it. In fact, I'd say Diablo Cody owes her Oscar to not only the director of 'Juno' (yay, Reitman!) but to the editor as well. Watch all the deleted scenes on the DVD. You'll realize just how much of a convoluted mess the script actually was.

Posted by: Barnes78 at June 21, 2010 8:56 PM


Posted by: Yossarian at June 22, 2010 3:05 PM

Geat discussion and glad to be a part of it.
(And to be cited for cleverness and "succinctiosity")

Posted by: Odnon at June 22, 2010 3:48 PM

My school's Creative Writing degree (of which I am currently partaking) FINALLY reinstated their Screenwriting course this Fall after the original professor retired and they spent two years scrambling to find a replacement. I was one of the first people to sign up, eager to see what I could glean from one of my favorite mediums to study.

Now, I'm a little sad.

Posted by: ChristianH at June 22, 2010 3:57 PM

Also, to add to all the points, I think one way to look at writers v. directors is to look at writer/directors. I don't like any Tarantino movie that he wrote but didn't direct (including True Romance). But in the case of Kevin Smith, the one movie he directed but didn't write (Cop Out) was an absolute mess. Conversely, Charlie Kaufman (aka Screenwriting God, Bow Before Him) managed to do a fine job on the one movie he's directed to date (Syencdoche, New York).

Which...when I think about it, is a meaningless assembly of points in the end. I suppose a good test of all this would be to see if Kevin Smith could write a movie and let someone else direct it. I dunno, I thought this line of logic would lead somewhere. Sorry for wasting your time.

Posted by: ChristianH at June 22, 2010 4:13 PM

An amusing illustration of the perceived uselessness of the screenwriter was in (if I'm remembering correctly) the short-lived (but oh so awesome) TV show "Action" (starring Jay Mohr - no, really, and he was great in it).

Basically, the screenwriter was treated like the nerd in high school who does the football star's homework. He comes up with the ideas and is forced to do endless rewrites to conform to producer or studio dictates, but nobody but the screenwriter gives a shit about the actual story. And when it's done, it looks very little like how it started out, when everyone told him what a great story it was.

Posted by: Slash at June 22, 2010 4:44 PM

Aww I'm so proud to be mentioned at long last after years of commenting! And three cheers for the cake not being a lie!

I've been grappling with this issue as well but from another angle. I'm a writer in videogames, which is very much like being a writer/theater director trying to create a coherent story while at the mercy of a world constantly growing in props/scenery and an audience that likes to join the action and play-hump the actors.

Here's a true story from my last game. Imagine: you create a dialogue, record it, stage manage it, and hooray you're done. A few days later you discover an artist has dumped a shark in the middle of the scene, swimming through in the air between your characters.

This creates a moment where you must ask yourself the question, what is more important, the shark or the story? Can the shark become part of the story? What motivates the shark? Why did anyone ever think a mid-air shark was a good idea. WTF.

Then you remember you have a delete key. DELETE.

Writers in games come in at the beginning, for ideas, and at the end, for logic and polish. In the middle of the process you get goddamn sharks.

Anyway, the point I wanted to add was some scripts are just damn lucky, and sometimes you can't help the sharks, which somehow worm their way into the end of production. This is precisely how I imagine George Lucas's Episodes 1, 2 and 3 came into being. Too many sharks.

Posted by: ThingOfThings at June 23, 2010 12:43 AM

And there you have it folks. The very appropriate and probably unintentional Swimming with Sharks reference. Buddy Ackerman will never go away.

Posted by: Stealer of the Cake (formerly yocean) at June 23, 2010 2:56 AM

I find it interesting that the winner mentioned imagining "Munich as directed by Michael Bay". That movie seems to haunt me everywhere I go. Now I'm curious as to how well-written the screenplay for Munich actually was. I thought it was a well-cast film, and brilliantly shot, but the story didn't hold up well. I must admit, I had extremely high expectations going into the film, having read the book first. I just felt too much of the original story had been altered and it had never occured to me whether that was because of Spielberg or the script. Either way, I'm not a fan of the end result.
I should probably give Vengeance a re-read...

As for the example of True Romance as a point for a good script with a mediocre director, what about when compared to Natural Born Killers? I've yet to actually watch True Romance, so I couldn't make the comparison... But you have one film where the screenplay was actually written by Tarantino, and the other where it was re-written by other people. Which one would you even consider to be the better film?

I'm also curious as to how well a Kevin Smith screenplay would turn out if directed by someone else.

Posted by: Uda at June 23, 2010 6:41 AM

Just saw Rachel Getting Married. That is a good example of happy medium, or marriage between Script and Direction. And it still prove the importance of the Director in the movie. Director appreciate the script and brining out the best from it and in that effort he makes the film his own, without devaluing the importance of the story. I do have a lot of respect for directors like that.

Posted by: yocean at June 24, 2010 11:48 AM

the editor writes the final draft of the script, sometime keeping in mind the writer's intention that wasn't captured by the director.

it's amazing how much influence they have over the final product, often saving performances, comedy, pathos and story lines that would have otherwise ruined the film.
if you ever get the chance, watch a rough cut and then the final cut of a film.

i missed yesterday's exercise, but i do remember a quote on deadline hollywood last year by someone who had been a development executive at three major studios, in which he said that the vast majority of scripts that he read were much better (as potential movies) than the films that were produced from them.

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