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Where Have All the Jedi Gone and Where Are All the Gods?


Star Wars: The Clone Wars / Phillip Stephens

Film Reviews | August 15, 2008 | Comments (63)


We can only speculate over what the hell happened to George Lucas. Somewhere along the line he lost it — the passion and energy as a storyteller which made him one of the more impressive indie mavericks of Hollywood’s Golden Age. Somewhere along the line he became the very thing he hated, transforming from fiery anti-industry roustabout into the very image of the soulless, disaffected media mogul. What happened? In my opinion, George Lucas is a paramount example of how success can be as detrimental to an artist as failure. It’s hard to believe, but at one point the fate of the first Star Wars film rested on the edge of a knife. Lucas poured all of his means, ambition, and ability into one go, and if it turned into a colossal flop, well, he was fucked. To make the situation more precarious, many of Lucas’s fellow golden boys thought Star Wars was shit. The delirious success which followed would render Lucas, vindicated on such a grand scale, impervious to self-criticism. Years later, after having every financial and technological means available to him, having been surrounded for decades by thralls declaring him a genius, millions of angry fans still can’t convince him that his “special editions” and prequel trilogy don’t blow Bantha balls.

Whatever the case, and much more germane to this review, Lucas and his cronies stopped really giving a shit about Star Wars. Good writing requires passion, and Lucas, sitting atop his mounds of money and bygone success, has no more demons to slay. His soul is inert. His franchise has become a novelty, a media monster with a built-in fan base and guaranteed merchandising blitz, and Lucas has obviously been content to surround himself with young “artists” willing to hold his coattails and unable to tell him his material has become wretched dross. Star Wars is no longer a story, but a playground for Lucasfilm Ltd. to fiddledick with new technologies and make millions.

The best new developments of the Star Wars universe have taken place at a distance from Lucas’s gnarled hands, in books and video games written by people who still care about the story he originally told and have that creative spark still in their souls. The “Clone Wars” shorts made by Genndy Tartakovsky for Cartoon Network were exactly what the franchise needed, an impassioned reimagining, even within Lucas’s shitty prequel template. This short series made use of sound, image, action, and editing in every way Lucas hasn’t in decades, not to mention a story that was actually involving. The show was, in a word, badass, and succeeded in getting me excited about the franchise for the first time in ages (Lucas promptly pissed in my Kool-Aid again via Episode III). Tartakovsky’s input should’ve illustrated to everyone what cool things the series could do outside a photography-based medium, provided it was gotten the fuck away from its deranged creator.

The lesson didn’t take. Star Wars: The Clone Wars (redundant title much?) is as middling as the prequels and, though Lucas is only producing, his rancid imprimatur infects every frame. The same rampant faults of Episodes I-III take the same form here: horribly wooden (voice) acting; retarded comic relief; meaningless special effects; slim characterization; and an utter lack of any emotional involvement. The prequel oeuvre has, after all, felt like shitty fan fiction instead of a contribution to canon, merely throwing extant characters and references into a pile instead of forging something unique or exciting.

The premise itself is enough to elicit a groan: Jabba the Hutt’s son has been kidnapped…yes, the worm-monster and peripheral villain of the original trilogy has his own larva baby, meant to satisfy some imagined cuteness quotient, provided the audience will think a living turd is cute. Anakin (voice of Matt Lanter) and Obi-Wan (James Arnold Taylor) are bollixing around in various engagements in the war against Count Doodoo when the plot orchestrated by said Count threatens to bring the Hutts into war against the Republic. Meanwhile, Anakin has been saddled with a tweeny Padawan (Ashley Eckstein), a fucking Jedi Miley Cyrus, fulfilling some imagined quotient for one-liners and comic relief so bad it kills children.

Lasers fly, lightsabers twang, droids explode, and yet little in Clone Wars actually happens as characters whose fates we already know bumble around and spout gibberish. The animation, rather than Tartakovsky’s fluid, hand-drawn cels, is clunky CG which renders characters who look like polygons dipped in clay. It isn’t unattractive, but like most of the action in Clone Wars, it lacks a sense of immediacy. At least there is plenty of action, enough to keep the film skipping along so that the audience’s yawns aren’t leavened with snores, unlike Lucas’s last three films, where lulls in the action slowed the exposition to the speed of erosion. But this isn’t much to be grateful for; even the young children in my theater were squirming in their seats.

No, if you were holding out hope that Clone Wars and the television serial it’s meant to introduce might be a long overdue return to form, you’re going to be disappointed again. Lucas has stood astride us once more, prizing apart the butt cheeks of his merchandising and media machine in order to deluge us with the watery remains of a once beloved series and I, for one, have had all I can stand.

Phillip Stephens is the lead critic and book editor for Pajiba. He lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas, and still plays with his AT-AT Walker.









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Comments

Been waitin all week for this one. :)

Here's an interesting essay I read this morning about George.
He may not have "lost" it in that he may never have "had" it.

http://www.secrethistoryofstarwars.com/

(Its pretty long, but the gist is that all the good, classic Lucas projects we all love so much were really the result of major collaboration with other, more talented contributors and that it wasnt until he was powerful enough to clear the room of dissenting voices that we got to the pure Lucas that makes shit movies like this and (for the most part) the prequel trilogy.

Love the site BTW. Addicted reader.

Completely agree, and I wish it was something I had touched upon here. The first three films did have substantial collaborative effort from Lawrence Kasdan and the directors of Empire and Jedi. Lucas unrestrained in the driver's seat = shit-feast.
-PS

Posted by: Jason M at August 15, 2008 8:20 PM

Well, TK will definitely enjoy this, since it is the resurrected corpse of what was once a fine modern mythology, consuming the cranial matter of any who subject themselves to it.

As far as the idea that Lucas should stay far away, well, that was evident as soon as The Empire Strikes Back came out. That movie showed the clear difference when he was kept busy counting the money, while people with decent talent were doing the real work.

The "Clone Wars" shorts made by Genndy Tarkovsky for Cartoon Network were exactly what the franchise needed, an impassioned reimagining, even within Lucas's shitty prequel template.

A-goddamn-men.

Posted by: Vermillion at August 15, 2008 8:25 PM

While I do enjoy the movie, the Revenge of the Sith novel is great. Part of that's due to psychological/Force stuff you simply can't due with film, and the beginning (taking place before the movie) is pretty rousing too. Labyrinth of Evil, a novel that takes place a few days before ROTS is worth checking out too.

My only complaint on the cartoons is that they're so short it feels a bit jerky watching them, even on dvd. But they're definitely good. I'll see this and might be underwhelmed, but I hope the show's good, as well as the live action one or two coming along.

Posted by: Jay at August 15, 2008 8:25 PM

Oh and I forgot the "Force Unleashed" game next month. Who knows? But it might be fantastic.

Posted by: Jay at August 15, 2008 8:31 PM

the wsapnin spawn and I have been waiting for this, but now I am truly saddened.
*sniff* *sniff*

George Lucas pisses me off so much. I want to punch him in his non-existent chin.

Posted by: wsapnin at August 15, 2008 9:06 PM

Do not want.

Posted by: Lucas at August 15, 2008 9:37 PM

Well, I guess it is time to take a crap on a stack of episode 1 dvds! HAPPY DAY!!!!

Posted by: the loney bass at August 15, 2008 9:45 PM

I drank the cool aid of the prequels and still, occassionally, defend them. But this? Hell, I haven't looked forward to it at all. It's a blip. A footnote. It looks like ass and from the sound of it, smells like it too. Ugh!

This article, from last Sunday's Washington Post, put my current feelings very succinctly:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/07/AR2008080701846.html

Posted by: Armando at August 15, 2008 9:46 PM

I'll second Jay and the "Revenge of the Sith" novel - I read just the intro on Amazon.com and I was like - wait, this is good. What the fuck? Where is this movie!?

As a storyteller, it's always been important to me to figure out just where the hell George Lucas fell apart, as to avoid the same disaster. At least if it's success that's done him in, I think I've successfully avoided that pitfall for the foreseeable future.

If you liked GT's Clone Wars I assume you've seen his excellent animation work on Samurai Jack. If not, hie thee to Netflix post haste, it's all on DVD.

Posted by: twig at August 15, 2008 10:18 PM

At this point, I've got nothing in my soul left for Star Wars until The Force Unleashed is released. If that ends up sucking, then that's it. Lucas will have squeezed his last dollar from me, ever, and this time, I really mean it,

No, really.

This was really an outstanding review, btw.

Posted by: TK at August 15, 2008 10:19 PM

I will not pay for this. If I end up seeing it, I swear to you, I will not pay to see it.

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at August 15, 2008 10:22 PM

Maybe we expect too much from our geniuses. Coppola has giving up making bad movies and is now making bad wine, and Scorsese is one failure way from making American Express commercials. Maybe Lucas doesn't give a shit anymore, maybe he's tired, or maybe he's waiting for a young director to come along and Moe Greene his ass.

Posted by: Pookie at August 15, 2008 10:47 PM

Jeez, that screenshot up there looks like something straight out of a PS1 game. Could just be an unfortunate picture, though.

And I was never really into Star Wars, actually. I watched the original three when I was kid and didn't really think much of them, even then. I generally consider myself into sci-fi and fantasy, but SW never did it for me.

However, Doctor Who, strangely enough, did. And I'm pretty sure that's worse.

Posted by: vic at August 15, 2008 11:10 PM

I just wanted this to be as badass as the animated series by Tartakowsky; sadly, this doesn't seem to compare, truly a waste of clone wars potential (I guess the tv animated series will suck too if this movie is a preview of things to come)

Posted by: Radlum at August 15, 2008 11:23 PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I might have to check out that "Revenge of the Sit" novel if it's really that good. I was a big fan of the Star Wars novels growing up (Shadows of the Empire, Courtship of Princess Leia, the Thrawn Trilogy, the Jedi Academy trilogy, etc.).

And GO USA! Did anyone catch the 100m butterfly final? Michael Phelps has fucking dolphin DNA or some shit, my god.

Posted by: Mick J at August 15, 2008 11:36 PM

No... This place can not love Star Wars novels. It's too much. I don't know if I'll be able to contain my love anymore. I'll start waving my unmentionables in public with a Godtopus tattooed upon each cheek. And Tarkovsky love... I usually never want to tell others about this site. They wouldn't understand. Now I want to ride a bicycle door-to-door passing out pamphlets. Have you heard the good news about Pajiba? They love Timothy Zahn and talk about Force Unleashed. But I swear they aren't virgins! Tis miraculous, child. I speaketh truth.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at August 16, 2008 12:08 AM

Wait... you're saying it's like Disney land: a hollow construct of exaggerated archetypes and disproportionate mythic constructs piled up on the dessicated remains of half-remembered cultural icons with a healthy slug of Oh God It Has Big Eyes Ain't It Cute? to lure in the kiddies and the Saturday afternoon mums?

And I expected so very much more from the George Lucas Co-Prosperity Sphere.

Posted by: Megan at August 16, 2008 12:08 AM

I will never see this, nor the cartoon series. What's the point? We know how it ends anyway. It's the SW equivalent of Star Trek's Enterprise.

I saw the original Clone Wars cartoons, and didn't really like those, either. The animated stuff just doesn't do it for me. The live-action show, though, I will give a chance.

But really, ROTS was an OK film relative to the other two. It's the only one of the prequels that I can watch, and it's good background for when I got the LEGO out.

Posted by: Mikey D at August 16, 2008 12:44 AM

OK so this is a bit of a diversion, but I heard years ago that in the "original" Star Wars mythology Padme does not die of a broken heart (SO LAME) but actually commits suicide after realizing what Anakin has become. Can ANYBODY tell me if this is even remotely accurate??? Please? It makes a hell of a lot more sense than the broken heart nonsense...

Posted by: Lizowski at August 16, 2008 12:54 AM

As a fan of the original SW trilogy, I've been forced to close my eyes for the past 30 years. There's been a lot of falling down stairs and running into furniture until someone suggested I get a seeing eye dog.
Thanks a bunch George Lucas, now everyone thinks I'm blind.

Posted by: popejenn at August 16, 2008 1:36 AM

Apparently doing math with me eyes closed is hard too. And the seeing eye dog isn't good with numbers; his paws are too large for my calculator.

I saw those films when I was 11, so I've only had my eyes shut for 18 years.

Posted by: popejenn at August 16, 2008 1:38 AM

I saw the original in the theater with my dad, and was awestruck. Actually, I was 7, so I don't remember the awestruck part. But I really liked it! I proceeded to see is about 27 more times on my friend's newfangled VCR when I was in high school. I saw "Empire Strikes Back" in the theater with my dad and loved it. I saw "Return of the Jedi" in the theater with my friends and was just 16 enough to LOVE it (ewoks + teenage girl = box office gold.)

Many years later, I decided to watch "Return" with my stepdaughter, as I thought she might like the ewoks.

What utter shit.

I breathlessly anticipated episode I in the theater. I wanted to see it with my dad (nostalgia and love), but he was dying at the time, so no dice. Thank GOD! That was the first time I consciously resented someone for stealing 2 hours of my life.

What utter shit.

The first was brilliant. The second was good. The third sucked. Nothing else existed.

Except KOTR I and II. Love those games.

Posted by: ncnn at August 16, 2008 2:01 AM

Oh - and nice Bonnie Tyler reference.

Posted by: ncnn at August 16, 2008 2:04 AM

I think that the best Star Wars movie wasn't directed by George Lucas. Even the original Star Wars movie (AKA Episode IV AKA A New Hope) feels like a kid's story (pumped up by the charisma of Harrison Ford, John Williams' score and that damn Cantina Scene) when compared to the Shakespearean-level drama of Empire Strikes Back.

So to see Lucas take his franchise and plow it into the ground with the prequels is a shame, but not unexpected. What gets me is that he somehow doesn't want to stop. It's like he has this weird interpretation and he won't stop until everyone agrees that he's right. And if he has to force all the rabid fanboys who grew up with the series to watch it Clockwork Orange-style, so be it.

And now he wants to do the same to Indiana Jones. The two great ideas this man had and he's hellbent on making sure they crash and burn.

Posted by: BFFredo at August 16, 2008 2:11 AM

Except KOTR I and II. Love those games.

Oops. Except KOTOR I and II.

Posted by: ncnn at August 16, 2008 2:23 AM

The Revenge of the Sith novelization was, indeed, Teh Shit. Great backstory, exposition, interior dialogues were yiffin' fantastic and the political subtext was all there.

Although Parts I-III did disappoint me somewhat, I tried to look above the herpes-like sores Lucas has lipsmacked all over them. Other viewers couldn't believe I was actually watching the political subplot more than the actual evolution of Anakin Skywalker into Darth Vader. To me, the route the Republic was led down was more interesting, especially how the Jedi and no one else were able to see it until it was far too late to stop.

The Clone Wars cartoons pissed me off because they were too damned short, little two-minute bites of the apple. If Tartakovsky had done this movie sans CGI effects, I would certainly have gone to see it.

Posted by: The Wanderer at August 16, 2008 6:19 AM

" yiffin' fantastic "

What're you, some kinda furry? Hahah. Seriously though. Book was good, this suuuuucked.

Posted by: Vinny at August 16, 2008 8:24 AM

Vinny,

Thanks for asking. I've adopted the word in order to wean myself off saying 'fucking' as an intensifier. As to furry, well, I started writing furry fiction in 2003. My serial Luck of the Dragon, a tale of a close-knit family of Chinese gangsters set in the 1930s, is now five years old and 140 chapters long (with no end in sight).

The Spontoon Island website:
http://spontoon.rootoon.com

Posted by: The Wanderer at August 16, 2008 8:38 AM

I think I have figured it out:

The movies were diminishing in quality over the years to the point they are barely watchable.

While the Expanded Universe had flourished and gained all kinds of acclaim under other creators.

Even the novel adaptation of one of the movies is apparently loads better than the actual film.

Nearly everything actually still good in the Star Wars canon is in non-movie form in some way (novels, comics, video games), most of which have considerable amounts of text.

It is clear now.

Lucas isn't making crappy movies because he sucks. He is making them to force people to READ. He isn't a hack, but a literacy advocate.

Posted by: Vermillion at August 16, 2008 9:31 AM

That screenshot up there looks *so* bad. I'm surprised that somebody greenlit this for public viewing. What. the. eff.

Posted by: MJ at August 16, 2008 10:24 AM

The Clone Wars cartoons pissed me off because they were too damned short, little two-minute bites of the apple.

Exactly. I'm not saying that that's bad, but that's why watching them is personally a little unpleasant for me.

Other viewers couldn't believe I was actually watching the political subplot more than the actual evolution of Anakin Skywalker into Darth Vader. To me, the route the Republic was led down was more interesting, especially how the Jedi and no one else were able to see it until it was far too late to stop.

Oh fucking hell. Where've you been for nine years? Yeah, when "Phantom Menace" came out I was saying, "oh, cool, he's saying the Empire came out of a Weimar". That completely tickled my history geek, and I really enjoyed seeing how Palpatine had laid out all his plans (what to do with the Gungans and end up being able to exploit the Trade Federation for it, etc.) along with what happens when entrenched governments get lost up their own ass repeatedly through time. And they have their own C-SPAN too apparently, which I thought was funny. So, yeah, underneath what did feel a little stiff, like somehow everyone involved needed some more experience, I loved the historical stuff Lucas wanted to use to explain the universe, and I received a fair amount of "yeah, that's a reach", like I was inventing a story that wasn't there.

Yeesh!

Jake Lloyd did annoy me though, his manner of speaking grated on me. But then...some time went by and I discovered more and more that he was very naturalistic. Might not have even been acting, who knows?, but he did act like someone his age. Have a seven year old kid try to ask you where a book is. They do not communicate well.

Posted by: Jay at August 16, 2008 10:42 AM

@Jay and The Wanderer, I'll cop to finding some vague interest in the political background; one of the few moments from the prequel trilogy that actually got me thinking (and not being annoyed with Padme) was the "So this is how democracy dies...with thunderous applause" scene, because it was vaguely real and relatable. By contrast, Anakin's stupid cartoony Angst and Emotional Turmoil never once rang true.

Topic: I saw the trailer for this. When the trailer for an action epic-type movie can't even manage to get me momentarily caught up in it (crap music, crap visuals, crap-sounding story) then something's seriously wrong - I'm a total sucker for the most simplistic of marketing techniques.

And I will now have Bonnie Tyler in my head for the next three days. Thanks a bunch, Pajiba.

Posted by: Shay at August 16, 2008 11:26 AM

...Count Doodoo?

Posted by: Corinna at August 16, 2008 11:55 AM

It's good some of you mentioned the Force Unleashed coming out in a month or so, but if you'd like a great Star Wars fix now, look up the Knights of the Old Republic games. A story so good it renewed my faith in Star Wars ... you know, until I saw Episode 3.

Posted by: Sidewinder at August 16, 2008 12:42 PM

One more point I wanted to make:

I've always felt as if Star Wars (the first one) came out at the right moment in time to catch the imagination of people. After decades of westerns and swashbuckling pirates over the seas, movie theaters had turned to the gritty, grimy streets of modern America with conflicted anti-heroes (everything from Bullitt to Popeye Doyle to Serpico).

And here came this movie where good guys are good (even when they try and pretend otherwise), the bad guys are downright evil and the world they live in is wide and open and uncharted. It was something that people were crying out for and took to it like mad.

Posted by: BFFredo at August 16, 2008 12:52 PM

"The first was brilliant. The second was good. The third sucked. Nothing else existed.

Except KOTR I and II. Love those games." -ncnn

Blast! You beat me to it. Oh well, as long as I'm not the only one representing Knights around these parts, I'm happy.

Posted by: Sidewinder at August 16, 2008 2:03 PM

First time post, here-- I couldn't resist chiming in with some reading advice...




If y'all aren't opposed to comic books, I'd highly recommend picking up the ongoing series Legacy for a Star Wars fix. It takes place a century-and-a-quarter after the original movies and is pretty much as close to a re-imagining of the franchise as you're gonna get...




The ongoing comic series Knights of the Old Republic is also excellent.

Posted by: Trip at August 16, 2008 2:57 PM

Bah, sorry for the gigantic paragraph breaks there.

Posted by: Trip at August 16, 2008 2:58 PM

Seeing the original in the movies changed my life. Well, maybe nothing that dramatic, but it did open my eyes to the whole sci-fi thing, and I've been hooked ever since. I'll tell you why the original trilogy worked and the prequel trilogy blew chunks:

The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.

That was it. That was the entirety of the political mumbo-jumbo in the original trilogy. The rest of the movies covered Jedi stuff, the lives of Lke, Leis, Han, Chewie, etc and getting on with the fucking WAR in Star Wars.

Since then, Lucas has dragged out the Clone Wars for two movies, and for all intents and purposes has *not* delivered.

Fail.

Thanks for listening, I'll go back to the peanut gallery now...

Posted by: malikvlc at August 16, 2008 5:06 PM

The temptation to point and scream "NERRRRRDS!" at the top of my battle voice is nearly unbearable. But as satisfying as it would be, I know that all of you turning on me would be too much. Because though I may laugh at you on the outside, inside my dark, cold heart...I fear you.

Posted by: Cookie at August 17, 2008 8:19 AM

But... Is this movie better than the Holiday-Special and those with the Ewoks?

Posted by: henteaser at August 17, 2008 8:45 AM

Do Anakin and Obi Wan make it? I know it's spoilerish, but I am ever so worried about their fate in this adventure!

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 17, 2008 9:06 AM

"Because though I may laugh at you on the outside, inside my dark, cold heart...I fear you."

As well you should, Cookie. Remember - fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

Posted by: TK at August 17, 2008 9:25 AM

"...inside my dark, cold heart...I fear you."

You must learn to control your fear...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 17, 2008 9:32 AM

Do Anakin and Obi Wan make it? I know it's spoilerish, but I am ever so worried about their fate in this adventure!

Yes, B-Slim, in the little seen but highly coveted Star Whores Anakin and Obi Wan make it in every way you can possibly imagine and several that should never have been imagined, much less implemented (damn R2 and his tools!).

Posted by: ncnn at August 17, 2008 10:32 AM

"If y'all aren't opposed to comic books, I'd highly recommend picking up the ongoing series Legacy for a Star Wars fix. It takes place a century-and-a-quarter after the original movies and is pretty much as close to a re-imagining of the franchise as you're gonna get..."

I'll second this, Trip. I just started reading this recently and thought the first arc, with its political intrigue front and center, is exactly what The Phantom Menace SHOULD have been. And not a single person says "yippee" in the whole thing (though I think I saw a "frak" here and there).

Posted by: Armando at August 17, 2008 11:06 AM

"If y'all aren't opposed to comic books, I'd highly recommend picking up the ongoing series Legacy for a Star Wars fix. It takes place a century-and-a-quarter after the original movies and is pretty much as close to a re-imagining of the franchise as you're gonna get..."

I'll second this, Trip. I just started reading this recently and thought the first arc, with its political intrigue front and center, is exactly what The Phantom Menace SHOULD have been. And not a single person says "yippee" in the whole thing (though I think I saw a "frak" here and there).

Posted by: Armando at August 17, 2008 11:06 AM

BFFredo, that is a most excellent observation. There is zero ambiguity in the first SW. Even when you look at less realistic fare of the 70s like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Jaws, you can see the duality of human nature; both good and evil existent within each of us.

Now, off to Amazon to pick me up some Samurai Jack DVDs.

P.S. Why couldn't Obi-Wan and Anakin make it in the live-action movies? I'd totally pay to see that. Well, the second and third anyway. It'd be kinda weird in the first one.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at August 17, 2008 11:26 AM

[i]
Years later, after having every financial and technological means available to him, having been surrounded for decades by thralls declaring him a genius, millions of angry fans still can't convince him that his "special editions" and prequel trilogy don't blow Bantha balls.
[/i]

Why listen to the fans? Read to the barometer for success that he used for Star Wars- box office gross.

Unadjusted figures, courtesy of BoxOfficeMojo.com:
Star Wars $460,998,007
The Empire Strikes Back $290,475,067
Return of the Jedi $309,306,177
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace $431,088,301
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones $310,676,740
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith $380,270,577


Looking at the miserable last three, thats $1.1 billion. Or group together the three shittest films (Jedi, Phantom and Clones*), you still have a billion. Why bother listening to the fans when they still slavishly front up, even if they are just hoping this one will be better than that last steaming pile of celluloid? The only thing that would deliver Lucas the message he needs to hear is if this film and everything that follows it utterly tanks.

*flawed as it was, Sith was less of a flimsy excuse to attach the SW brand to a shit film than 1 and 2. A Sith-SW-TESB story arc would have been a far more engaging in my very humble opinion.

Posted by: Mr Smug at August 17, 2008 7:06 PM

ooops. Next time I'll try not to have three thoughts when writing the one sentence. that should be:
"Take the barometer for success that he used for Star Wars: box office gross."

Double oops: I haven't written tags in ages. Does it show?

Posted by: Mr Smug at August 17, 2008 7:11 PM

hahahahahahahaha

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 17, 2008 7:24 PM

That this gets released in theaters, and Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children does not, is proof that there is no justice in the world.

Posted by: Todd at August 18, 2008 9:26 AM

Advent Children is actually about the same as Star Wars in terms of retardly DARK AND GRITTY story, plank characters, and pointless fighting/dialogue/camerawork.

Posted by: Adalmin at August 18, 2008 10:37 AM

Edit: Meant to say Star Wars PREQUELS.

Posted by: Adalmin at August 18, 2008 10:40 AM

"millions of angry fans still can't convince him that his "special editions" and prequel trilogy don't blow Bantha balls. "


Maybe that's because the millions of angry fans all saw the special editions in the theater (multiple times), bought the special editions on video, bought the special editions on dvd (multiple times), saw the prequels in the theater (multiple times), bought them on dvd, etc, etc. Several billion dollars of profit later, I can't imagine why he might not give a shit.

Posted by: dan at August 18, 2008 3:15 PM

'We can only speculate over what the hell happened to George Lucas.'

That was the only thing I needed to read.

Then I just skipped down to the bottom and read the last paragraph.

Posted by: Q at August 18, 2008 3:35 PM

HEY! Adalmin! Slander against Advent Children will not be taken lightly!

When was the last time you jumped miles into the air against the laws of gravity to cut the hell out of a giant pissed off dragon-summon that was stomping on everyone to save your city, huh?

When was the last time you used a sword to slice through a motorbike to avoid a mid-air collision while being shot at in a tunnel and thus created the most badass motorbike chase scene ever?

And when was the last time you regenerated into someone else's body using a bit of your alien mother's neck and still you could control the weather while trying to kill your archnemesis so you could take over the world?

I don't care if it's just a bunch of pixels with almost no emotional/plot development, IT'S STILL AWESOME!

*foams at mouth*

Posted by: Cookie at August 19, 2008 12:17 AM

Amen, Cookie, and thank you. A mention of the Sleeping Forest would also have been good, if mere words could ever do justice to the awesomeness of that scene.

Posted by: Todd at August 19, 2008 9:24 AM

Ah! Of course, Todd, with the Yazoo shooting Cloud's sword so fast that Cloud remained airborne until they started fighting in those wicked shiny trees and it was totally fucking cool except it reminded me of Aerith which reminded me of Mena Suvari's godawful dub and that just makes me annoyADFkdJBGSDlgkjBSDGK!

...

Excuse me for a moment.

Posted by: Cookie at August 19, 2008 10:05 AM

You know, I just can't get over the fact that they gave Anakin a catgirl Padawan, immediately making me wonder if we'll see him chop her down like all the other Jedi kids. Now if she was Obi-Wan's new apprentice, that would make more sense, but we passed the realms of 'sense' a long time ago in a universe far, far away.

And it has to be awful, too.

Fucking Star Wars.

Posted by: Matt P. at August 19, 2008 10:46 AM

I actually read one of the comments above as referring to "Genndy" Lucas. Hahahaaaaa! Tartakovsky--sheer genius.

Many of the comments above read like text book cases of nerd/geek character disorder as expressed via logo (logorrhea). Fascinating.

Posted by: NeoCleo at August 20, 2008 6:01 PM

What, oh Yoda, what will plug the shit-stream spewing from this man's (lack of) imagination?!

I knew without having to see it that this film, though hinting it might be as good as the animated series, would suck like the black hole that is Lucas' 'vision'. Even light can't escape.

I am reminded of my attempts to read the new Dune series and Herbert's son's ass-raping of one of my favorite stories.

Posted by: Protoguy at August 27, 2008 5:52 AM

I haven't paid to see any of Lucas's crimes against art since I saw Episode I in its original theatrical release. I saw part of Episode II on tv once and it was exactly the worthless garbage I expected it to be. I've never seen any of Episode III, nor do I ever intend to. In fact, I take a small amount of comfort in the fact that although Lucas raped my soul once, at least I was keen enough never to let him do it again. I'd pay good money to spit in George Lucas's face though, or perhaps beat him senseless with a Jar Jar Binks doll.

Posted by: mark at November 14, 2008 1:58 AM



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