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Sex and the City / Dustin Rowles

Film Reviews | May 30, 2008 | Comments (133)


Viewed from a purely cultural perspective, I’m actually a modest fan of “Sex and the City,” the television show. The HBO sitcom came along at the perfect time; while President Clinton was facing impeachment for breaking cigar etiquette and the religious right and the Moral Majority was inching its way toward the mainstream, “SaTC” managed, ever-so-slightly, to help prevent the complete Eisenhower-Era, Stepford-esque, chastity-apron sexual reversion that George Bush, et. al, attempted to usher in in the late 90s and early aughts. “SaTC,” from 1998 to 2004, was, in a way, the second coming of Helen Gurley Brown, televisually advising women that it was OK to spread semen all over their faces (“Makes a fine mask, and he’ll be pleased!”). And while the show probably didn’t make that big a difference in the bedroom, it did affect the way women talked about sex, inasmuch as it encourage candid sexual conversation, both among friends and with partners — men no longer had to fumble around without a roadmap, suddenly, women were kindly offering directions (“Hey Asshole! It’s there — no, there. What the fuck is wrong with you? You gotta blind spot the size of Montana? Nono … fuck it. Nevermind, I’ll just do it myself.”). And for the few of us men brave enough to watch, “SaTC” was a little like reading the sex-advice column in Cosmo — salaciously informative, a tiny window into the female ID. Or, at least as close as most of us we’re going to get before a third date. Hell: I can’t imagine the number of 20-ish women who, after the first season, not only ran out and bought The Rabbit, but suddenly felt comfortable revealing that little bit of information in mixed company. Unfortunately, as much as the show encouraged women to believe that singledom, an active social life, and promiscuity were A-OK, even in your 30s and 40s, it did very little to discourage men from continuing to call them shallow whores.

But there’s always been a weird dichotomy between the progressive sexual attitudes fostered by “SaTC” and the backwards stereotypes engendered in the series. Sure, the series seemed to suggest, an empowered woman could be perfectly content fucking her ever-living brains out and gorging herself on Cosmopolitans and cock, but they’d never find true happiness until they were in a stable relationship with a man who could afford to buy them shoes. Lots and lots of shoes. And, as the series progressed, it began to focus less on the sex, the threesomes, the vibrators, the alcohol, and the blow-jobs, i.e., the fun stuff, and more on the shoes, the designers, and the men, who were no longer forgettable fucks quickly disposed of, but actual characters with feelings and emotions. Jay-Suz. Them bitches sold out to Manola Blahniks and the happily-ever-after myth.

Which brings us to Sex and the City: The Movie, a film that — more or less — brings us full circle, right back to where we fucking started from before the series began: Get a man, marry him, and erect a white picket fence (or a giant clothes closet) to encircle your happiness — typical fairy-tale princess bullshit that’d damn near satisfy Phyllis Schafly, if only Samantha could keep on her goddamn clothes (for all of our sakes, really). “Labels and love,” Carrie Bradshaw intones in the opening minutes of SaTC, and that’s basically what the movie amounts to: lots of shoes, a lot of smushy relationships, and no casual sex to speak of, thus decimating most of what was once most appealing about the show: Sex-hungry, successful women looking to get laid. But hey! They’re in their 40s now, and not even in New York City can a forty-something woman be happy unless she’s settling down with an older, twice-married prince with a deep pocketbook. I read that in Vogue.

Four years has passed between the television show and the movie, but Carrie, Miranda, Charlotte, and Samantha are still where they left off: Carrie (Sarah Jessica Parker) is seriously involved with Big (Chris Noth), but their decision to move in together has created a sense of urgency about getting married, for practical business reasons, of course. Miranda (Cynthia Nixon) is still with Steve (David Eigenberg), though when Miranda’s memememememe -time narcissism inevitably rears up, their love life slows to a crawl, and Steve goes outside of the home to get himself some tail, thus nearly ruining the one truly decent male character in the series. Charlotte is still Charlotte — happily married, now with an adopted daughter, and dull as hell. But she’s happy. So fucking happy. Happier than Ren & Stimpy teaching your grandmother to suck an egg. That happy. And, for whatever reason, they also decided to make her character Joey-Tribiani dumb for the big screen because, naturally, marital bliss and dimwittedness are inextricably intertwined. Meanwhile, Samantha — living in L.A. and involved with her actor boy-toy for five years now — has begun to grow restless, but to combat the itch, she resorts to food instead of fucking — her character has basically been rendered fangless caricature of her formerly caricatured self; she respects the cock from afar, while snacking on a nice dip.

The plot itself is typical of what you might see in a “Beverly Hills 90210” reunion show — a gamut of pregnancies, weddings, and break-ups, all crammed into two-plus hours that feels like 15. But now in their 40s, the women seem to all have devolved — it’s like a goddamn gaggle of drunk teenagers — while the relationship complications befit an episode of “Everybody Loves Raymond” more than they do a groundbreaking HBO series. Michael Patrick King, a series veteran, writes and directs the film, adding several uncharacteristic elements — a humping dog and a flatulent Charlotte, to name two — seemingly to appeal to a broader (i.e., dumber) base of women. The jokes are flat, stupid, and obvious, and it’s probably the most gobslobbering punfucked script of the decade, machine-gun spraying puns and pap-smeared clichés like Rambo with only a heavy arsenal of Hallmark sentiment and Perez Hilton witticisms to work with. Worse, the central plotline is driven by a lousy “Three’s Company”-like misunderstanding, the sort of thing that might work in a half-hour sitcom, but fails miserably when you’re trying to attach some actual dramatic heft to it. Oh, and Jennifer Hudson, who plays Carrie’s assistant, has officially pushed Cuba Gooding, Jr. aside as the least talented Oscar winner in the history of film —- she couldn’t sell a goddamn line to a hard-up Amy Winehouse.

Which is not to say that Sex and the City is all bad - there’s a certain comfortable familiarity with the characters, which makes it slightly easier to swallow the preposterousness of what’s happening onscreen (I mean, really: Steve would never cheat on Miranda. Give me a fucking break). It’s that familiarity, too, that heightens your emotions — when the bad shit goes down, it hurts a little more because you know who they are, and when the good stuff happens, that familiarity gives it a little more wallop than your typical romantic comedy. But it’s still a typical romantic comedy — the “sex” in the city has dried up like the erogenous zones of a cougar in a nursing home orgy.

Still, for those of you wondering who might have died in the film, it’s not spoiling anything to say that they all did — the original spirit of the series, wheezing and sucking air as the sixth season wound down, has finally succumbed to the death of a Katherine Heigl/Kate Hudson la-la land of magical romantic make-believe. But, if what you’re looking for is a cry-in-your-pillow, instead of bite-your-pillow, female comedy, I suppose you could do a lot worse than SaTC.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives with his wife and son in Ithaca, New York. You may email him, or leave a comment below.


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Comments

When is the review of this weekend's other horror movie, The Strangers, going to be up?

Posted by: CptCrckpot at May 30, 2008 1:17 PM

You have just confirmed and summed up everything I have ever suspected about this show/movie and perfectly described why I never have or will watch it. But you left out the part where SJP ruins everything she touches. Easily my least favorite "actress" in all of Hollywood. Even if I was at all curious about this movie or series, I'd avoid it based solely on her.

Posted by: Bistro at May 30, 2008 1:19 PM

Bleh. I'll take bite your pillow over cry in your pillow any day.

Posted by: michelle at May 30, 2008 1:25 PM

I have very mixed emotions about this movie and about the series generally. It may have something to do with the " weird dichotomy between the progressive sexual attitudes fostered by 'SaTC' and the backwards stereotypes engendered in the series" (very eloquently said, by the way). Like "Cosmo", Glamour", "Redbook", and every other salaciously vapid women's magazine, I know the show is silly, but I nevertheless find myself strangely drawn to it. It's like candy for the brain. I'm sorry to hear that the movie has turned out to be just another romantic comedy (which I loathe), but I also know that I will go see it. I guess it's similar to movie-saavy guys who are inexplicably drawn to action flicks.

Posted by: Meghan at May 30, 2008 1:30 PM

One of my friends is obsessed with this show so he bought us all tickets and demanded we see the 12:01 showing. I live in NYC, so I expected to see some fanatics, but I didn't expect to see hundreds of twenty something girls in party skirts, full make-up, and 4 inch heels at the Kips Bay AMC.

What everything I'd read to date on the film had failed to mention was that it is 2 and a half FUCKING hours long. Extending what fit nicely into half an hour into two hours resulted in one of the worst films I've ever seen. The most predictable and horribly acted piece of trash on the planet. Jennifer Hudson should be REQUIRED to return her Oscar. I hated it. Thankfully, I never paid my friend back for the ticket.

Nor do I intend to.

Posted by: David at May 30, 2008 1:32 PM

""Asshole! It's there -- no, there"."

Not to gripe, but what man can't find an asshole? True other orifices are harder to locate in the heat of the moment, but most men (as memory serves) seem to consider the anus the holy grail of sex and head right for it.

Apart from that, thank you for finally supporting my assertion that these women were not liberated spirits. I stopped watching before the series ended, but the very fact that Carrie ended up with Big shows that the entire message was "hang on to a rich man no matter how badly he treats you.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 30, 2008 1:39 PM

I, too, prefer the bite.

Nice review, man. I appreciate your take on the social implications of the series. I hadn't thought of it that way before, and the series DID start out decently.

I can't complain about the shoe angle--I, too, am a whore for the foot bindings. But not the shit that Carrie wears. My great uncle's transvestite niece from Reno wouldn't even be caught dead in some of that shit.

Bite. Women want BITE, people.

Posted by: boo at May 30, 2008 1:40 PM

When is the review of this weekend's other horror movie, The Strangers, going to be up?

Hee, comedy! I'm getting dragged to this thing tonight, and I'm strongly considering taking my portable DVD player and the Venture Bros. DVDs, if they get here from NetFlix today, which seems likely. Is that on Pajibans' list of theater pet peeves? When a fellow audience member is viewing another form of entertainment?

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at May 30, 2008 1:46 PM

Spolilers! I want spoilers!

I'm not going to see it but I was hoping to find out the basic plot.

Ya know, there was an episode when Carrie's mondering interior monologue included the question, "Are we sluts?" and I remember yelling, "YES!" at the screen.

Posted by: Henry at May 30, 2008 1:48 PM

Ted, if they get feisty, throw a sparkly shoe. Course, in Frisco, that's liable to start a riot.

Least you'll be prepared.

Posted by: insertclevernamehere at May 30, 2008 1:53 PM

I love seeing twenty-somethings trying to relate their lives to a lead cast that ranges between 42 and 52 years old. Classic.

Paddy, feel free to spread this piece of sage advice that I was told long ago..."the asshole is always lower than you think it is."

Posted by: branded at May 30, 2008 1:55 PM

I think I'm gonna cry into my pillow now instead of after the movie. I made a bet with a friend, which I lost (Unfortunately). The stakes were if I won she would have to see a movie I chose, if I lost, it would be a movie of her choice. Now I weap at the thought that I am going to forced to watch this movie.

My plan is to numb the pain with so much alcohol that when I vomit I can claim it is due to the drink, not the movie, though I think we all will know the truth... But I fear this may not be enough to truly block out the pain that will be inflicted upon me. It may not be as bad as watching a Hilton movie, but when one loaths SJP so much that if she were starving and dehydrated on a public sidewalk and I had an option of throwing my left-overs away or giving them to her...I would pee on her and force myself to stuff my leftovers down my throat in front of her... just to prove a point.

God help me!

Posted by: Nico at May 30, 2008 1:55 PM

Meh, sounds like about what I expected. Hoped for better, but expected this.

Meghan, I know exactly what you mean; it's brain candy, guilty pleasure, whatever you want to call it.

I'm going to see it with a couple of gal friends tonight, and after spending most of my work day out in a brook, wearing stylin' chest waders, with my hair in braids, I'm quite looking forward to the excuse to be ovaries-out girly tonight.

But, sad to hear the movie isn't what it could have been.

Also sad to hear my beloved Steve has been saddled with such a rotten storyline. I'm with Dustin, there's no way he would do that!

Posted by: MO at May 30, 2008 1:56 PM

Course, in Frisco, that's liable to start a riot.

We'll be in West Portal, which is a bit, um, stodgier, perhaps. Maybe I'll throw an orthopedic sneaker. Between the DVD player and the gin Pocket Shots, I may be violating several theater taboos. Also, we're eating Indian food first, and I'm totally working on the leftovers while we're in there.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at May 30, 2008 1:57 PM

Unashamed to say that I can't wait to see this movie. I loved the series. I can't say that it spoke to me or anything like that, but I thought the actresses were often hilarious and the conundrums often interesting (i.e. the episode where Carrie's extremely expensive shoes get stolen at her friend's baby shower who demanded that guests remove shoes). I was never crazy about how they handled (or didn't handle) race and I thought the Charlotte conversion storyline was insanely offensive, but overall I really liked the show.

Posted by: samantha t at May 30, 2008 1:57 PM

Bite. Women want BITE, people.

Word, Boo. We also don't mind a nibble here and there.

I liked this show, but I have absolutely no desire to see the movie. My best friend is dragging me to see this though-I'm his SatC beard. He wants me to pretend to be his girlfriend and act as if I'm the one forcing us to watch it. And yet I still haven't seen Iron Man. Sigh.

Posted by: Julie at May 30, 2008 2:01 PM

Again, I do not have a comment about the "Sex and the City" movie, So please stop with the phone calls and emails.

Posted by: Pookie at May 30, 2008 2:10 PM

Socalled:

You may actually end up with others who have been dragged out gathering around your screen to divert themselves.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 30, 2008 2:12 PM

Henry I too yelled yes at the screen when Carrie asked if they were sluts.

I expect to be disappointed, but I'm still going to see this with my sister. We were in high school when this series first came out (and I'm rather amazed my parents let us watch it) and now we're older, career women, one single one married, etc. In some ways it was a coming of age series for us, we couldn't relate to the characters, we didn't want their lives, but we enjoyed watching their journey (or lack thereof) as we explored and plotted our own. So I expect to be disappointed, but I get the (rare) chance to be in the same city with my sister next week and we've been plotting to see it together. It isn't the movie I'm anticipating, but the shared experience with my sister, a rejuvenation of those times we watched and bonded over the show (even if we watched together on the phone from separate dorm rooms in separate colleges). For that I'm willing to forgive a lot of this show because it gave me those moments with my sister. And nothing from your childhood/teenagerhood/youth is ever as good as you recall. (There was a discussion yesterday about Hey, Dude and Salute Your Shorts both of which I loved as a kid and I now recognize their flaws while still retaining a soft spot for them. (However Fraggle Rock is every bit as awesome as it was when I was a child.)

But if this movie ruined Steve, the only decent character? The only one I would actually want as a friend. The guy I always thought was too good for any of those women. That I might not be able to forgive.

Posted by: libraryliz at May 30, 2008 2:14 PM

Seriously, libraryliz, they better not tarnish my Steve. Steve and Harry were my favorite men.

Posted by: Julie at May 30, 2008 2:19 PM

Am I the only woman in the world who physically hates this show, everything it stands for, and can't relate to it anyway? I'm 26 and live in New York City. I couldn't care less about my shoes (trick: I buy cheap dress shoes and then wear nice slacks that only show the heel and toe..they look expensive that way), I think Cosmos are rank (fancying vodka tonics currently) and the only reason people praise this show is because they're rich, older white women that supposedly "empower" us. If it was 20-somethings talking about sex or having sex constantly everyone would say they had no morals and blah blah blah. If it was minorities they'd say they were obsessed with spending money on looking good and not promoting a positive image to their community. Then a Conservative pundit would make a reference to teen pregnancy in blacks and latinas.

Look, I've sown a lot of wild oats in my time, so in no way am I saying it's a morality thing. But when girls come here from Iowa or Nebraska and truly believe you can live in apartments like Carrie's on a freelancer's salary, or ever man you meet is rich and handsome and powerful and ready to take care of you, it's a little pathetic.

If you want to fuck, fuck. Just wear a condom and get tested. If you want to drink, drink. Just drink what you like and not what's trendy (so many girls I know have tried Cosmo's because of this show and hated them anyway.) And if you keep riding the "on again off again" merry go round with a dude, I'm pretty sure there should come a point when you should say to yourself "this ride is making me nauseous, I want to get off."

THINK FOR YOURSELF!!!

Posted by: scorzi at May 30, 2008 2:19 PM

I was very frustrated won the Oscar in 06. I really wanted Adrianna Barraza or Rinko Kikuchi to win...they were phenomenal in Babel. I also thought the Beyonce acted circle around Hudson in Dreamgirls and sold her songs much better as well. I would have even been happy if she had won Best Supporting over Hudson...but Hudson? Not so great.

Posted by: trooper6 at May 30, 2008 2:20 PM

In a perfect world, scorzi, all women would be intelligent and not embarrass our fair sex.

I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: boo at May 30, 2008 2:23 PM

Thank you.

While I had no intention of seeing this pile of suck, I enjoyed the well written review.

And as a bonus, I now have "Happy Happy! Joy Joy!" stuck in my brain. And as ear worms go, you could do a lot worse.

Posted by: Groundloop at May 30, 2008 2:23 PM

Henry, the entire synopses is on Wikipedia. I checked it out, and now I'm glad I'm not seeing it.

Perfectly said about the dichotomy of the show, Dustin. I have a love/hate relationship about it. I don't think a movie was necessary because they ended it on a great note, with no real unanswered questions. But money is money.

Also pissed about Steve cheating, because he really was the best male character, and that's probably why they did that. He was too good, and they had to give Miranda some kind of conflict.

Frankly, they were dumbing down Charlotte a long time before this movie. Her 1950's hysterical fits got on my nerves, so I'm not surprised that she acts like a moron in the movie.

Thanks for the Ren & Stimpy reference, by the way. Damn, do I miss them.

Posted by: Brie at May 30, 2008 2:25 PM

Frankly, I'm most offended by the fact that Kristen Davis NEVER EVER EVER wears any silhouette other than that Donna Reed-style dress.

Oh, and also that this show was total crap and most definitely did not need to be made into a movie that lasts as long as childbirth, is apparently as painful, and has even fewer vaginas than one would want to see.

Posted by: Geetch at May 30, 2008 2:26 PM

Hmmm... I'm having mixed feelings about this. I want to see a Sex and the City movie, I'm just not sure I want to watch THIS one. I'll probably see it, just because I'm a fan, but it just sonds like eveything I loved about it is gone.

Posted by: Jeremy at May 30, 2008 2:29 PM

I don't care. I'm going to see it in 29 minutes.

So there.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 30, 2008 2:32 PM

Oh, Brie, I just LOVE my new tooth!

Posted by: michelle at May 30, 2008 2:37 PM

Nice review Mr. Rowles - I was expecting a far harsher review, but some of the shit you said was right on. I enjoyed the series too, and near the end it beca...

JULIE WHY THE HELL HAVEN'T YOU SEEN IRON MAN YET? WHY? ARE YOU WAITING FOR SOMETHING? JESUS CHRIST, GO SEE IT! GOSEEITGOSEEITGOSEEITNOWNOWNOW! RIGHT NOW!


What are you waiting for? GO DAMMIT!

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at May 30, 2008 2:39 PM

The correct speling is "tuchas."

Posted by: Peter L. Winkler at May 30, 2008 2:42 PM

"it did affect the way women talked about sex":

SATC sure didn't affect the way the women I know talked about sex... It just, for once, somewhat more accurately represented it.

Posted by: Sally at May 30, 2008 2:49 PM

Ha ha ha! Skitt, I had three weddings in a row, and then I was sick and I refuse to go to the theater when I'm coughing, and none of my friends want to see and now...I'm out of excuses.

Posted by: Julie at May 30, 2008 2:51 PM

I'd thought it was "toches"

But then, we're really dealing with phonetics in the end, and a seemingly unending argument.

Oy!

Posted by: Jay at May 30, 2008 2:52 PM

Dear ladies, I'm looking for a woman to date. She must be attractive and sexy. She must have a house with a pool and a dependable car ( preferable late model). I'm between jobs, and she must be able to help me out when she can. I lost my driving license last year, so she must be willing to drive me to my ex's house so I can see my kids once a month, and to AA on Mon/Wed/fri, and on those days she must be able to provide me with cigarette money. I want only a lady that can be loyal. I'm not looking for one of those feminist, I want a lady that knows her place, but is career minded. Oh, and she must not be a plus size lady. Serious enquires only.

Posted by: pookie at May 30, 2008 2:56 PM

I watched/still sometimes watch the show for a bit of background noise and entertainment. Will I see the movie? I don't know yet. I find it interesting that only one person out of my friends is willing to accompany me if I do.

On a brighter note: I took my girlfriend to see Iron Man last night because I was tired of geeking out over it and seeing her blank look. And she loved it! If she didn't, I might have had to dump her. And I worked very hard to not ogle RDJ, though I couldn't help a sigh now and then.

Posted by: Sharon at May 30, 2008 3:03 PM

I never cared for SaTC, but I never hated it either. I am going to see it on Tuesday just because my friends are going and I haven't seen them in a while. And Tracey will kill me if I bail on her. But my true vitriol is saved for Desperate Housewives. I actively loathe that show. The very sight of Eva Longoria makes my brain bleed. In fact, I hate Tony Parker simply because he's married to her. And I generally love me some basketball players.

Posted by: Pea at May 30, 2008 3:06 PM

Julie, buddy, that is just criminally wrong that you have yet to see Iron Man. What the nuts? I've been living here in LeukemiaTown for almost two months, most of that time in The Big House, and I still managed to see RDJ in his gloriousness.

Sheesh, girl. I am ashamed. You should wear your Pajiba shirt to SaTC, just to combat the hordes of twits in party dresses and heels.

I never got this show. During most of the episodes I did watch, my face wore a gaped-mouth expression of confusion. Was I supposed to relate to these women? I certainly didn't find them liberating in any way. I have never considered myself anything in the neighborhood of a prude, but SaTC was just a scripted version of one of those silly Tupperware-esque sex toy parties I've had the misfortune of attending. Only with lots of wacky "fashion" and hideously overpriced shoes.

And has anyone else found the marketing for this movie completely insane? The local news even had two segments on a midnight showing in town; the bulk of the segment consisted of panning around a mostly empty theater lobby with a faux excited newscaster's narration.

So sad.

Posted by: Alabamapink at May 30, 2008 3:09 PM

Heh...I should wear my Pajiba shirt Bama. WITH heels, but not because SJP tells me to but because they're sexy.

Posted by: Julie at May 30, 2008 3:20 PM

Hey P-bag

You can find lots of dates who fit that description at this great pick up joint called the pound. These gals are very loyal and although they may be bitches they are usually not feminist. Of course when you go there you might want to substitute the words "to date" with "to adopt" but hey, whatever works, right.

I mean come on, what would a real live woman who already has a "late model" want with you anyway.

Posted by: Phat girl at May 30, 2008 3:20 PM

And has anyone else found the marketing for this movie completely insane?

You mean the mandatory two-a-days on the Today Show? Or SJP being in every other magazine ad? Or every internet page having something SaTC-related on it?

No. Hadn't noticed.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at May 30, 2008 3:26 PM

The marketing for this film annoys me. The same stupid fucking theme tune, the same high pitched shouts of fabulosity, and if SJP's looks don't kill me, they merely soften the blow for professional whorebag Kim Catrall. And to think, I had a boyhood crush on her after Mannequin. I feel upset now...I need to go see Iron Man again. Or maybe Speed Racer in IMAX. That'll do the trick. On a sidenote: I think Pajiba needs a line of teddy bears, strictly for clutching for dear life during a shitty film that hurt the soul.

Posted by: Mike R. at May 30, 2008 3:38 PM

My girlfriend, who understands my sentiment, and her friends, who don't, and myself... have all been carrying on a discourse about why men especially (and some free thinking women) can't stomach this show.

And after lots of compassionate listening... for reals... and a genuine curiosity to get to the root of the aversion... we think we have nailed it.

It's actually quite simple.

Carrie Bradshaw is every man's nightmare. She is shallow. She is two faced. She is fake. She is trying too hard. She is high maintenance. She has great qualities, all of which she hides as soon as any somewhat attractive man enters the room showing, again, how shallow she is, and how fake she is, and how two faced she is, and untrustworthy, and do i have to go on?

Look, wondering why he isn't that into you is like asking why the terrorists hate us. And in fact it almost has the same answer. No man gives a fat fuck about your SHOES. And anyone who does care that much just plain out sucks. There... it's been said.

And so, for 6 years or whatever, while three characters might have been honestly and vulnerably advancing the state of womenhood... one spent all her time unravelling it all.

Carrie Bradshaw: female equivalent of the male douchebag.

Posted by: sly at May 30, 2008 3:49 PM

Hearing of the midnight opening crowds for this movie has made me realize that this is for many women, their equivalent to all those Star Wars crowds for the opening showings of the Prequels.

Play dress-up, get giddy at the opening theme music, get sickening feeling that it's not what you remembered, leave disappointed by the proceedings, talk yourself into its quality, rail against critics who just don't get it and then in about a year's time, admit that it was garbage.

About time for women to join us guys in the Disappointment bench.

Posted by: BFFredo at May 30, 2008 4:00 PM

Phat girl, I will disregard your attacks on me. I would hope that you will join me in rising above the petty differences that separate us. It will be a joyous day for all when your journey is complete and you find the love you seek. So please let us go out into this bountiful Metropolis and each of us make our own mark.

Posted by: Pookie at May 30, 2008 4:03 PM

Thanks to wikipedia, I do not have to see the movie. I liked the show well enough. All I really cared about in the movie is if Jason Lewis is shirtless. Anyone know?

I am seriously sick of the marketing campaign. Shut up already. Dude. We get it. We know. Argh.

Julie, I have yet to see Iron Man due to issues beyond my control. I will be going this weekend. Action and explosions are more my thing than sappy chick flicks. That is the explanation I give for my demented love of Michael Bay movies.

Posted by: Melody at May 30, 2008 4:08 PM

It would take a mathematician to calculate the infintesmally (this isn't a word it it?) small interest I have in this movie. I'll never watch it. Not on DVD, not on cable, not on a plane, not in the rain, not with a goat, never. That said, I find it interesting that this primarily female driven film, catering to a female audience, is THE big movie for the May 30 weekend. So I guess that's somewhat of a good thing. A chick flick operating as the main draw for a summer weekend instead of counter programming. Too bad the movie is a pile of ass.

Posted by: Rob at May 30, 2008 4:19 PM

I just find it funny that three of them are really damn excited about those flowers. Cynthia Nixon can't be arsed, as they say. "I've got the silliest dress but a nice smile, I'll stand here and you go ahead with that".

Posted by: Jay at May 30, 2008 4:34 PM

Good call, Mike R.--I would totally buy a Pajiba teddy bear! In fact, I'll probably avoid SATC: The Movie until I can see it with Pajiba McBearsket. (Yes, that would be his name.)

Posted by: Kivrin at May 30, 2008 5:10 PM

I was forced to see Iron Man this weekend and, while RDJ is beyond charismatic, I was bored to tears.

Posted by: samantha t at May 30, 2008 5:23 PM

Sly,

I know you have a girlfriend but I want to date you now.

Posted by: scorzi at May 30, 2008 5:33 PM

Pookie, I heart you. I always look forward to your comments. I am a little warped that way.

Posted by: nancy at May 30, 2008 5:56 PM

I think the most annoying side-affect of SaTC is all the twenty-something aspiring "writers" who have adopted a Carrie-esque style--"Later that day I got to thinking about relationships... (insert stupid sex pun)" What's more frustrating is that they truly think they're being cutting edge by writing some inane column about dildos.

I'm just really sick of the bullshit attitude it's created. Maybe it's because the demographic it's become most popular in can't really relate to the characters. I don't know but it bugs the crap out of me. I wish my generation hadn't been so heavily influenced by this show. I live in the East Bay which is rampant with vapid women who think talking about their sex lives over drinks equals sophistication. I can't wait to move to LA where I'm sure it will be just as bad.

Posted by: Allie at May 30, 2008 5:59 PM

Go see Savage Grace instead

Posted by: V at May 30, 2008 6:03 PM

okay, I saw it, and here's the thing:

IT WAS WONDERFUL.

IF, that is, you are a fan of the series. A true fan, like, recognises-the-inside-jokes fan, knows the ups and downs of each characters' life fan, knows what a GREAT moment it is when...

*****SPOILER*****
_____ & _______ kiss.
*****END SPOILER*****


If you are not that kind of a fan, don't bother.

But if you ARE -- oh, go now, while the crowds are comprised of mostly females and gays. I had a HOOOOT of a time this afternoon; went by myself, but it was a fucking party in that theatre, man.

The PERFECT movie companion to the series, is alls I'm a-sayin'.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 30, 2008 6:29 PM

I sat here and thought, for literally almost a minute (which is a LONG damn time to just sit, and think, and look at a post in a comment thread, and you know it is) about whether that last post is attempting sarcasm.

I think it isn't. Which is scaring me a little bit.

Posted by: AM at May 30, 2008 6:46 PM

So is this the movie featuring Kristen Davis's bush? I thought I saw that clip leaked a few months back. You would think her character would have better grooming practices.

Posted by: JP at May 30, 2008 6:56 PM

Julie, I commend you for your bravery for admitting you have yet to see Iron Man. In fact, I have something to admit. I went to see Iron Man and... I fell asleep.

[cracks whip loudly]

Back! Let me finish! I did see most of it, definitely all of the action scenes, but in between those I was dead asleep. It wasn't like I wanted to, but I had been awake for three days straight and I could literally hear my brain melting. That, and I was sitting next to two theater twats who apparently thought the movie was a sing-along musical. I'm gonna see it again, trust. But, for one night I committed Pajiba treason. Have mercy, Godtopus.

As for this movie, no happening.

Posted by: jM at May 30, 2008 7:34 PM

"SJP, can you count to four?"

Whinny, pbbbbbbt ... stomp, stomp, stomp, stomp.

"Atta girl. Have a carrot. Now back to the barn with you."

Posted by: bucdaddy at May 30, 2008 7:42 PM

Starring in a major motion picture and pursuing the Triple Crown. I just dont know how SJP does it.

Posted by: JP at May 30, 2008 7:55 PM

By the way, are you sure this wasn't Golden Girls: The Movie? The commercials looks suspiciously like four old broads where you got the normal lead, her friend the sex maniac, one the career woman, and the conservative one. Or maybe I'm thinking of Designing Woman.

Posted by: JP at May 30, 2008 8:02 PM

Huh. Sex and the City, eh? So it's about a chick, right? And she has some friends? Are there men? And it's how many friends? Where is it set? I wish they'd market these damn things so regular people watching TV and reading magazines could come across promotional material to let us know why we should see this movie and when it will be playing. Why is that so hard to get?!

Posted by: TWoP Fan at May 30, 2008 11:28 PM

hey, I get it. But at the end of the day, doesn't it seem like we're calling SJP ugly 'cause we can't call her fat??

Posted by: Patchfire at May 30, 2008 11:37 PM

Can't help myself. their.

Posted by: patchfire at May 30, 2008 11:40 PM

ooops. Misconstrued. there is right. Bah.

Posted by: patchfire at May 30, 2008 11:45 PM

I love this review, I completely agree with the SaTC show review thing.

Posted by: Rachel at May 30, 2008 11:59 PM

Melody, he isn't in it much, but seemed to me he was shirtless at least half the time he was on camera. No complaints there.

Mmm, and speaking of the menfolk, oh my, Steve has a nice bum.

And Harry's facial expressions remind me eerily of Shrek. *shudder*

Upon seeing the film for myself, I conclude that a) Dustin gave a spot-on review, and b) Dammit, I enjoyed it anyway. It was tepid and watered down, but far better than a typical romantic comedy. I thought one of the ladies' stories ended up slightly unconventionally (in a good way), actually.

Posted by: MO at May 31, 2008 12:07 AM

Patchfire, Oh, no question, SJPbiscuit is the reason "butterface" was invented.

BUT ... her FACE ... my EYES ... dear God, my EYES!

Posted by: bucdaddy at May 31, 2008 12:28 AM

MENhatten
Menhatten
seriously. actually, that alone was worth seeing the movie for.
I laughed at most things that were supposed to be serious, but I cried a little too. I didn't mind the running time at all! Honestly, Judd Apatow movies are about as long and nobody complains. I think the hype over the length is a bit indicative of sexism i.e: people will take the movie seriously when it's about men but not women.
Anyway, if nothing else it's good eye candy. the main storyline was fucking stupid though.

Posted by: Meredith at May 31, 2008 1:25 AM

*shrug* I liked it.

Posted by: Kathryn at May 31, 2008 2:35 AM

Fuck the lot of you. For me, the television show Sex and the City was about ENTERTAINMENT. Sheer, unadulterated, fun to watch entertainment. I enjoyed watching a show where attractive women wear couture clothing that I can't afford and bitch to each other about men, and I liked listening to them have conversations about awkward sexual situations (ill-advised baby talk during sex, the qualms of female grooming, etc.) that I've had with my friends and could laugh about when seen discussed in a frank manner like they did. Do I realize that it's preposterous to think that someone writing a column for a C list New York newspaper could afford an apartment like Carrie Bradshaw's? OF COURSE I D. It's not realistic. But that's the beauty of it, it's bloody entertainment. I don't want to watch a show about an overweight thirty-something woman who gets laid every three months and has an illegal $1500/month sublet over some creepy convenience store in Hell's Kitchen. That is not entertaining. That would not attract viewers.

This movie is a perfect extension of the incredibly entertaining show. It has amazing fashion, predictably comfortable storylines, and a healthy dose of both old and new to make longtime viewers like myself very pleased. Was it campy? Of course. Will men hate it? Surely. But is it supposed to be a ground-breaking commentary on the female population that moviegoers talk about for decades to come? NO. It was an incredibly indulgent cinematic romp for fans like me who've missed the show for the past four years and haven't quite been satisfied by shows like How I Met Your Mother and Desperate Housewives in the meantime.

Stop trying to make this movie something that it clearly is not. Hell, stop trying to make the entire show something that it's not. This movie isn't going to change lives and shake people to their cores. It's going to entertain fans of the show, and it does a damn fine job of it. You don't know women like this? Well guess what, these women are FICTIONAL CHARACTERS. On a television show. And now a movie. They are there to entertain. They're not there for you to relate to every facet of their lives because again, that would be boring . Ironman? Not real too, guys. But entertaining. ENTERTAINING.

If you liked Sex and the City, this is perfect. If you didn't like Sex and the City, you will hate it. Simple as that. I unabashedly loved it and will probably see it a few more times until I feel sufficiently full of SATC-related entertainment for the next four or so years.

Posted by: Megan at May 31, 2008 5:56 AM

megan, with all due respect, I agree with you that the show was indeed entertaining and it was lot of fun have funny jokes about sex and cool clothes and shoes on tv screen, and you are right the show didnt have to be neorealistic like many great shows are now. Not all television has to be.
But, let's be fair, sex and the city was promoted as this big life changing experience, like single women were gonna find a not awkward spot in society thanks to it. they were pushing this and that's what everybody tries to find in the show. the sad fact is that none of this revolutionary argument are actually part of the show. I mean really dustin, u think women didint talk like that about sex before sex and the city came along? We did Oh we did. the all point of the show was clearly a fake point from the beginning. This wasn;t the show that portrait independent women that dont need men to be happy cause in fact seamed that only man could make them happy all along, it was a show about the value of friendship but really that wasn't new at all, as a matter of fact it's a very washed out concept by now.
It is true that women werent portrait as sex obsessed as men before in tv.That I'll give to the show, but anything else was pretty built up without any actual ground.
The show was funny, the movie is probably a bad idea under a cinematic point of view but a brilliant idea for anyone that was obsessed with the show.
As megan said let's stop making this show something that it wasn't, audience and creators.

Posted by: rio at May 31, 2008 8:30 AM

Megan, may our paths cross one day. Sweet Jesus, people. The show was FICTION. As with most entertainment, its not real. Have we collectively forgotten this simple fact of entertainment? The show was a delightful distraction from my reality. I got my giggles and then I went back to my life. I can't wait to spend some time with some old familiar "friends." If you didn't like the show, bully for you. Now, please get the fuck out of my way and I'll stay out of your's while you stampede to watch Iron Man again.

Posted by: Lori at May 31, 2008 10:20 AM

I loved the show. It was the highlight of my baby-infested, newly-married, worried about money life. It was one hour a week when I could enjoy the raunchy talk (that actually does exist)between women and not worry (as much) about poopy diapers or throw-up on my shoulder.


I cannot wait to see this. I will be swept up in shoes, Mr. Big, Samantha's whoreishness, Carrie's over-analytical mind, Miranda's dumpy sort of fashion, and Charlotte's mama la-la land...... And I will probably enjoy it very much!!!


And quit calling SJP a horse-face. Wow, a woman who doesn't have the perfect face and is still confident and beautiful in her own way.... Jesus, what a concept. I'm sick of all these people bashing her..... I personally think she's a beautiful woman.

Posted by: Janey-Bo-Baney at May 31, 2008 11:08 AM

Okay, now where is Agent Bedhead?

You already gave us this fight, you trickster!

Posted by: Jay at May 31, 2008 11:14 AM

"pap-smeared clichés like Rambo with only a heavy arsenal of Hallmark sentiment and Perez Hilton witticisms to work with"
.....
I really, really tried to understand what you meant by "pap-smeared cliches" but still.....what?

I totally agree with Megan. For you to think that women are buying everything this movie is selling is annoying. Do we love to indulge in pretty things and obvious jokes sometimes? Of course we do. Don't men love to indulge in stupid video games? Do men actually think they could really skateboard or shoot up something/someone in real life, etc.? Um, hopefully not. It's all about fantasy. Pure and simple.

Posted by: Julia at May 31, 2008 11:28 AM

When will we as a people grow up? Beauty must not be the catalyst that determines how we treat each other.

Posted by: Pookie at May 31, 2008 11:53 AM

Finally toward the end the comments started to make sense. It was a fun show, an incredibly fun movie. The theme for me has always been about friendships between women - how wonderful they are, always. How fun, unselfconscious, campy, ridiculous, dramatic, emotional, intense, serious, crazy, and imperfect women can be with one another, without judgment.

How a woman can say one thing and do another (especially when it comes to men) and her girls are still there for her because they get it - or if they don't, they try to. THIS is why I adored the show and absolutely enjoyed the movie. I don't understand why the friendship angle wasn't mentioned in the review.

Posted by: Biscuit at May 31, 2008 1:55 PM

friendships between women - how wonderful they are, always.

Well, sometimes but not always. I've certainly got experience of having mutual friends snipe at each other to me on an ongoing basis. I know I'm not alone, but if you're having a much more pleasant experience more power to you.

Posted by: Jay at May 31, 2008 2:06 PM

I went and saw the movie last night and I wasn't disappointed with it. Mr. Big definitely had some work done--probably blepharoplasty. The most annoying thing about the movie was the fucking women at the theater. They were dressed in cocktail dresses and acting like fucking retards. (The massive alcohol they consumed probably didn't help). It was like fanatics at a Rocky Horror Picture Show--except with sequins and botox. My friend and I just wanted to watch the fucking movie but all the women just wanted to "ooh" and "woo-hoo!" throughout the whole damn movie. Anyone else experience such at the theater? I mean honestly, it was embarrassing.

Posted by: Justine at May 31, 2008 2:28 PM

Janey-Bo-Baney, I personally think I'm a damn handsome man. Doesn't make me one. When women stop judging geeky/dorky/semihomely men (yeah, me, what about it?) by their looks too, then maybe we CAN all get along ...

Nahhh, who am I kidding? Men will always be shallow.

Posted by: bucdaddy at May 31, 2008 2:52 PM

Dustin,

Its a good thing you outed yourself as a "moderate" fan of the series because this line (I mean, really: Steve would never cheat on Miranda. Give me a fucking break) would have done it for you. Only someone who has watched the Miranda/Steve relationship develop would know that and feel that strongly about it.

I personally only liked the show because of its portrayal of the realistic friendships that women have. Its far more common for shows to show women as constantly at each others throats or after each others men or even worse the old "All my friends are guys because I can't stand to be around women" crap.

Posted by: cmoody at May 31, 2008 3:13 PM

Megan, Julia, Biscuit et al:

Right the fuck on.

And add mine to the chorus of voices decrying this incessant verbal vivisection of an actress who doesn't toe the line of cookie-cutter beauty. Whose nose job merely fixed a bump, rather than changing the entire form of her face. (Yes, she's had a nose job. Perhaps they hate her because she didn't go ALL THE WAY? Fuck 'em. I never begrudge someone a little work, and to each her own when it comes to Botox and tit jobs and the like; but there's a special place in my heart for them what's decides they can enhance their beauty without erasing their individuality.)

Horse Face. Nice. Unyielding, impossible standards of beauty are BRILLIANT that way, aren't they? Just when you think you've met each one -- you're thin and toned, your hair is perfect, your skin is perfect -- and they've nothing left to pick at, they'll attack those features that make you You.. and if, like the hapless Jennifer Grey, you collapse under the weight of pressure, real or merely perceived, and GET those features sanded down.. they'll fucking crucify you for THAT.

Meanwhile the Pudge Parade of Protean Pathos that is the current crop of It "Men" (and yes, that term is looser than the skin of Seth Grogen's ballsack) shimmies across screens without an iota of embarrassment, let alone shame, for the pasty bulges and hairy bits we're supposed to find charming and even, jesus mary and joseph, sexually appealing.

Look, I go to the movies for a RESPITE from fucking reality, man. I want goddesses and gods, not goddamned factory issue barbie dolls and badly groomed hobbits. Give me Angelinas Jolie and Clives Owen; you can keep your Kates Hudson and Jasons Biggs.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 31, 2008 3:46 PM

Goddamnit. PREVIEW is my friend, why cannot I remember that?

Pudge Parade of Protean PATHOLOGY. Not PATHOS.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 31, 2008 3:49 PM

Give me Angelinas Jolie and Clives Owen; you can keep your Kates Hudson and Jasons Biggs.

So the former are unconventionally attractive like Parker? You lost me.

Posted by: Jay at May 31, 2008 4:09 PM

Angelina Jolie my ass! If you think weighting ninety pounds and botox injected lips is natural, I got a bridge near the Boggie down Bronx to sell you. Only in America that a women can be so skinny you can see the blood going through her veins that she can be considered the standard for beauty. Every time you turn on the lifetime channel there's a movie about some young girl suffering from anorexia. Angelina Jolie is a good actor, and lets leave it at that. She and Brad can now run off to that new chateau and preach to the rest of use about being environmentalist.

Posted by: Pookie at May 31, 2008 4:44 PM

"inasmuch as it encourage candid sexual conversation"

"Candid" and "vulgar" are not synonyms. There's a difference, and it's not even subtle, and the viewing public's inability to distinguish the two fills me with woe, because it resulted in this intentionally "shocking" and inexcusably shallow series making it past the first season.

God, I fucking hated this show. I thought I was rid of it, and having to hear about it from tittering, scandalized suburban housewives and easily titillated teenage girls, until this stupid fucking movie was made.

One thing I will NEVER figure out is how this series managed to be lauded for shattering stereotypes when what it actually did - and how - was reinforce them.

Posted by: ofthrees at May 31, 2008 4:56 PM

P.S. JP completely nails it. Only difference is, the Golden Girls was actually funny and clever. :)

Posted by: ofthrees at May 31, 2008 5:04 PM

"Frisco"?! Didn't you learn from Eddie Izzard's mistake? You'll bring a city of snakes down on everyone.

Posted by: Goldie at May 31, 2008 6:01 PM

Jay, Me too. She seems to be saying she finds a lot of people's appearance ("pasty bulges," "hairy bits") repellent. I'm saying I find SJPbiscuit's appearance repellent (Teri Hatcher's, too). So essentially Maryscott agrees with me.

So why is she mad?

Posted by: bucdaddy at May 31, 2008 6:29 PM

I also wish she wouldn't generalize. I find a lot of unconventional-looking women atractive. I just happen to think SJPbiscuit is a particularly unfortunate example of the species.

Giddyup!

Posted by: bucdaddy at May 31, 2008 7:06 PM

I was dragged to this by my moronic co-workers yesterday. If this is supposed to be good entertainment for women, I guess we're more fucked than I thought. Mindless, idiotic rubbish that should have been left in the 50's.

The friendships are a joke. All the girls are friends with Carrie, but the bond between the rest of them is practically non-existant. There's nothing odd about that...as long as you're still in high school. They would never, ever be friends in real life, and the writing was never good enough to make it seem real.

The fashion is interesting. On a catwalk. On actual people, going about their day, it just looks ridiculous and somehow even more hideous than on a starved 14yr old Russian girl. Besides, how much can you love shoes before you turn into Paris Hilton. Just once I would have liked to see the girls acknowledge they actually have a few brain cells not dedicated to telling the difference between Jimmy Choo's and Manolo Blahnik's.

Posted by: whenindoubt at May 31, 2008 8:58 PM

Look, I love sex as much as the next guy, but can I say that Dustin's take on the early nineties strikes me as, well, off? The Moral Majority disolved in 1989 (during Bush 41). The idea that we were close to an "Eisenhower-Era, Stepford-esque, chastity-apron sexual reversion" strikes me as out of touch with reality, and the idea that George Bush senior had anything to do with it as nonesensical.

Posted by: Karla at June 1, 2008 12:14 AM

Dustin: Right on! Steve was my favorite man ever--next to Harry, of course. I hated Big with a passion (always have, always will), and Aidan was a douchebag.

Miranda (narcissism be damned!) was my favorite character, because to me she showed the incredible struggle that women STILL face as professionals. I think her relationship with Steve was one of the best and most poignant parts of the series.

I don t know if I can bring myself to watch the movie if he is just going to cheat on her...stupid writers.

Posted by: bonnie at June 1, 2008 12:15 AM

Oh no, Bonnie, you should watch it! The Miranda/Steve thing was actually a hell of a good, real, poignant storyline, in my humble opinion.

Posted by: MO at June 1, 2008 12:31 AM

Guess I'm one of the few who neither loves nor hates the series. It's not brilliant, but it's not shit, either. The fashion angle of it was the worst part to me. The clothes/shoes/accessories that SJP wore in that show were - seriously - some of the shit fugliest things I've ever seen. She looked like she dressed in the dark and just pulled random shit out of the closet and called it a style. That's what bugs me about her, this idea that she's a fashion icon the rest of us should aspire to. She has shitty taste in clothes and shoes. And jewelry. She herself is a lovely woman, though like many women, when she wears too mcuh makeup, esp. eye makeup, she looks like a drag queen. SJP, lighten up on the face paint and you'd look 200% better. And stop telling the rest of us what to wear, your personal style does not justify it. Leave that shit to Stacy and Clinton, they know what they're talking about, you don't.

No intention of seeing the movie. When a movie's trailer makes the movie look like shit (and trailers usually make a movie look better than it is), you know it's a bad movie. The part where they squeal like 12-yr-olds was enough to make me say "nuh-uh." You're adult women. You should never sound like that unless you're on fire or surrounded by zombies.

Posted by: Slash at June 1, 2008 2:58 AM

I think its an unfortunate coincidence that SJP's clothing line is called Bitten.

Posted by: JP at June 1, 2008 3:33 AM

Bitten? Are you sure? I could have sworn it was called furlongs.

Posted by: Pookie at June 1, 2008 3:20 PM

Loved it. Agree with the others who call it ENTERTAINMENT, people. For the love of god! We all need a bit of sap once in awhile....oh - except for those who deem themselves holier than thou and too "intelligent" for such drivel.

To each his own.
Did anyone else think SJP often looked like Bette Midler in the movie? Too much makeup - coming from someone who thinks she (SJP)is sometimes beautiful.

Posted by: Shells at June 1, 2008 3:48 PM

Megan: You rock. I've seen it twice and I loved it.

Posted by: Whatever at June 1, 2008 11:59 PM

As much as I was interested in reading Dustin's opinion of this film (as well as others'), I was just DREADING the inevitable SJP backlash/defense. "I hate her! She has a horseface! That show/film is terrible!" This only to be countered with "That's not true! She's beautiful! Yay for unconventional beauty!" Personally, I tend to agree with the latter view but I think the bigger point should be that her appearance SHOULDN'T MATTER. If you're no fan of the series or of SJP's acting, fine, don't see the film. If you want to critique the series/film for its poor writing/acting/values, do so. But really, unfounded loathing of SJP simply for her appearance adds nothing to the dicussion and is hateful. So-called "jokes" about her supposed resemblance to a horse are hackneyed, tired and deeply stupid.

And yes, the film and the women themselves are overexposed but it's called MARKETING. Watching television or reading sponsored sites means you've entered into a kind of tacit agreement to be exposed to advertising. You don't always get to approve what you see. Them's the rules. Don't like it ? Turn off.

Posted by: MissMaddie at June 2, 2008 12:53 AM

Zing! Good one, Pookie *does salaam thing, bowing with arms outstretched"

Posted by: bucdaddy at June 2, 2008 9:51 AM

Miss Maddie - amen, sister. What kills me is that several times on the show Carrie distinguishes herself from beautiful women - when she's in the fashion show, when Big marries Natasha, etc. I don't think the show really portrays her as some raving beauty but, rather, as a conflicted, but generally fun, woman with at-times poor judgment with one of the cutest figures ever (sorry, that's indisputable). The dudes she's involved with - Big, Berger, Aidan, Baryshnykov (gorgeous back in the day, but 60+ now), etc. are good-looking guys, but nothing crazy.

Now, in Apatow's version of the show, Harry would've been dating Charlotte and that would've been portrayed as normal rather than an example of Harry dating a *wee bit* out of his range appearance-wise.

Posted by: samantha t at June 2, 2008 10:02 AM

Okay, so I'm preparing my flame-retardant suit (with cute shoes, of course) BUT --

I agree that fairy tales, the "And they lived happily ever after..." stories that women are told from the time we are wee, have created a monstrous view that women need men to complete them. Yes, horrible, god-awful stories, books, songs, and movies have been created over the years to reinforce this stereotype. And I do feel sorry for my fellow woman who accepts this wholesale.

Where the series led us, in my opinion, was NOT down this same path. Carrie et. al. didn't need their men to be COMPLETE. They chose love, because at the root of each of those fairy tales is the idea that people can find monogamous (or polygamous, if you're into that kind of thing) relationships that make us happy. Not "Oh god I will die a spinster!" complete, but happy. So when you get down to it, at a certain point most people (the Samanthas of the world excluded, perhaps) want that. I don't think it is "dumb" of the SATC cast & crew to pretend that all of these women are going to have wild sex until they die (again, Samantha excluded). Women (and men) do search for love, perhaps out of a psychological/biological/physiological need, but we search for it, whatever its cause. This movie played to that truth, and I thought it was realistic for the characters and honest, the way the show always was.

And at the end, the girls relied on each other, which is the way it should have been.

My only beef -- too much product placement. The show was more about fashion and not so label-crazy as the movie was. That pissed me off a little.

Posted by: Ariel at June 2, 2008 10:21 AM

I know that I am late in this, but I saw it and I loved it. I didn't dress up (I was wearing some gym shorts and a paint splattered t-shirt) but I enjoyed every minute. Jennifer Hudson kind of sucked. Go Fug Yourself said it right that she shouldn't act unless she is singing. But I laughed and cried. The thing that always drew me to this show was the friendship and it's there in spades. Made me want to call my close friends and tell them I love them. Yes it was predictable and yes, things happened that were kind of lame but I loved it.

Posted by: lyricalcatt at June 2, 2008 11:06 AM

Pookie, she wanted her line to be called Furlongs, but alas it was already Trademarked by a lingerie company that specializes in featuring hairy bush. But at the same store I went to -- Steve and Barry's, I think -- was a line from Venus and Serena Williams called Thoroughbred.

Posted by: JP at June 2, 2008 1:00 PM

pookie, I don't know you very well, but...

MAN, you are a douche.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at June 2, 2008 1:37 PM

Again with the Bush thing. It's really unfortunate you feel the need to clutter up reviews with ridiculous political invective, you're a talented writer.

Bush has no discernable social agenda, which is one of the frequent criticisms of him that conservatives have. McCain even more so, but I'm sure you'll be ranting about him too come November.

Posted by: jvon at June 2, 2008 2:18 PM

I apologize to you Maryscott O'Connor if I've offended you. In my haste to make a joke, I crossed the line. Let it not be said that Pookie can't right a wrong. I hope you will join me in rising above the petty differences that separate us.

Posted by: Pookie at June 2, 2008 2:31 PM

Is the inevitable porn version of this thing gonna be called "Sex And The City" too? Because... well, I mean it is right in the friggin' title...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at June 2, 2008 3:06 PM

(Minor Spoilers, but really, if you've seen the trailer you know everything that's going to happen)

Sweet Jesus. Rarely has a movie offended me on so many levels as this one did; I can honestly say that this is the worst movie I've sat through in years, and I saw [I]27[/I] *goddamn* [I]Dresses[/I] last month! And this is coming from a fan of the series; someone who watched it and quite liked it, and found the escapist fantasy fun, but liked that it was somewhat weighty too - seperate from any meta-stuff about cultural movements, I like my comedy with good characters and moving plotlines.

Which is why, as a movie, I found this to be awful - it's overlong (I felt every minute of the 150 or so it went on for) without any real storylines or moments or even entertainment worthy of keeping it going for that long - even the major conflicts were wrapped up in a shorter time than any of the numerous fashion-related montages that pepper the film. It's a complete betrayal of several of the characters (massive WORD to all the people who mentioned Steve above, because that was just horseshit), who were twisted to create drama or 'happy' endings (I could rant for pages about the 45 seconds of Anthony/Stanford spread across the movie, just so 'the gays' get a happy ending too, because who cares that they really didn't like each other - if you're gay, and someone else is gay, you'll have sex anyway, right?), and it's not like the sole new character provided anything of interest. (I actually didn't think Jennifer Hudson was too bad, but she was in about 4 scenes and did nothing in them but talk about handbags, her asshole ex and this new "interweb" all the kids are surfing on these days)

But more than being boring, I viscerally hated the messages this movie sent out. I don't think entertainment necessarily has a duty to portray positive messages, but I still find it repulsive that *this* is what's held up as the advancement of women. I've seen far too many of my female friends go back to the same guy over and over and over again because "This time he's changed, really!", and while I don't think movies like SatC are necessarily to blame, it still bites that that's the best they have to offer the modern woman. You don't deserve better, so grab what you can.

If your husband cheats on you, your friends will yell at you until you take him back, because really, it was your shrewish behaviour (like having a job that was important to you, heaven forfend) that drove him to it in the first place. If he dumps you and says he doesn't love you, you just have to wait for him to get bored/horny/desperate enough to take you back. If your long-term boyfriend screws you over for the umpteenth time by bailing on your wedding moments before you enter the church, him caring about your shoes will make all your deeper emotional issues just fly away.

And like I said, as a general rule I don't need my escapist fantasy to have huge amounts of realism, or a good After-School Special type moral, but for something like SatC which supposedly inspires so many women to be themselves and live their lives for them, taking the season 6 message that a good man is all you really need to be complete, and then making it even worse by declaring "Eh, you know what? He doesn't have to be a good man, he can actually be a complete jackass who treats you like crap. But the fact is, sweetie, you're getting old, and you look like a horse, so you're probably not going to do any better - you should just repress your emotional issues with him and ride him senseless in a walk-in closet." If this is what amounts to a fairy-tale ending these days, then it fails for me both on a deeper level and as emotional escapism.

(Re: the horse comments and the argument prior to this post - if you're in the public eye, people will comment on you a lot. If you star in a series and movie that talks you up as a modern sex symbol, people are going to comment on the fact that you look like you could make good time in the Kentucky Derby. The flipside to being adored by millions and paid oodles of cash is that you'll be judged on a shallow level sometimes)

Posted by: Shay at June 2, 2008 7:23 PM

No Skit, the porn version will be called "Sexin the Titty" or for you really freaky Skat people, "Sex in the Shitty"

Posted by: JP at June 2, 2008 7:59 PM

Or "Sexin the Clitty". Or, "Three old hags and a horse get it on in New York" I could do this all day.

Posted by: JP at June 2, 2008 8:05 PM

IMHO, the movie needed more Amy Sedaris...

Posted by: clairy at June 3, 2008 4:19 PM

Wait ... "furlongs" wasn't a punch line, that was for real? You mean she KNOWS about the horseface thing, or is that just a cosmic coincidence?

Posted by: bucdaddy at June 3, 2008 10:47 PM

Shay:



I thought that this entire paragraph was grossly inaccurate:



"If your husband cheats on you, your friends will yell at you until you take him back, because really, it was your shrewish behaviour (like having a job that was important to you, heaven forfend) that drove him to it in the first place. If he dumps you and says he doesn't love you, you just have to wait for him to get bored/horny/desperate enough to take you back. If your long-term boyfriend screws you over for the umpteenth time by bailing on your wedding moments before you enter the church, him caring about your shoes will make all your deeper emotional issues just fly away."



I'll break down why:


If your husband cheats on you, your friends will yell at you until you take him back, because really, it was your shrewish behaviour (like having a job that was important to you, heaven forfend) that drove him to it in the first place.


This isn't what happened. No one yelled at Miranda about Steve cheating on her. They were all actually very understanding. It wasn't until Carrie finally got upset and told her the truth about how she felt FIVE MONTHS after Miranda had left him. And they never implied that it was Miranda herself who drove him to cheat. It was something that happens in marriage with kids- you get busy, you grow apart, the sex wanes. And he cheated. Once. It was understandable that it took time for Miranda to fully forgive him and decide to trust him again.



If he dumps you and says he doesn't love you, you just have to wait for him to get bored/horny/desperate enough to take you back.


I don't even get what this was in reference to?



If he dumps you and says he doesn't love you, you just have to wait for him to get bored/horny/desperate enough to take you back. If your long-term boyfriend screws you over for the umpteenth time by bailing on your wedding moments before you enter the church, him caring about your shoes will make all your deeper emotional issues just fly away.


I'll admit that I was a bit disappointed that Carrie went back to Big after it all. But honestly, that's kind of understood in the show- that Carrie will end up with Big. And granted, they were separated for about a year (from what I could tell) after he ditched her. It gave her a lot of time to think and really consider her feelings for him. And I don't think it was his adoration for her shoes that made her come back; it was just a nice plot point that brought together a couple of the biggest themes of the show- Big and designer shoes.

Posted by: Megan at June 4, 2008 3:30 AM

Megan:

Re: Miranda, fair points all - I'll admit to indulging in hyperbole. But Carrie's outburst wasn't the first time that the other three expressed severe doubts about Miranda's (imho, completely understandable) decision to call time on the marraige, be it through more subtle "Are you sure...?"s from Charlotte or even just the glances between them every time the subject came up, the subtext was, almost from the beginning, "You should take him back". And the 'because it's your fault he cheated' was less the friends and more the movie itself, but again, I'll acknowledge that that's a personal interpretation.

Re: "If he dumps you and says he doesn't love you, you just have to wait for him to get bored/horny/desperate enough to take you back."

That was Jennifer Hudson's 'subplot', such as it was. In the 3 minutes of screen time it got, we learned her boyfriend broke up with her because he wasn't in love with her, then she leaves town, and by the time she comes back for New Year's he's changed his mind and she almost immediately drops everything to run back to him.

Re: Carrie, your response kinda sums up my own opposition to the movie, and yet I can understand to some extent why it doesn't phase you - it just irritated the hell out of me that the crushing inevitability of a Carrie/Big ending and far outweighed anything he could ever do to hurt her. I don't think it was necessarily inconsistent for Carrie to go back to him; hell, maybe Jennifer Hudson's barely-seen boyfriend made an entirely heartfelt off-screen speech about what a fool he'd been to let her go, and maybe Miranda really did "never look back" after getting back with Steve (although I'd argue again that that's beyond unlikely, in general and given the character of Miranda). I just find it horribly depressing and bleak that, in the movie as written, it takes so very little for the men to be forgiven for what I'd see as being relatively large transgressions, and that this is what ranks as a fairy-tale happily-ever-after.

On some level, it's sheer disappointment on my part - I mentioned 27 Dresses above, and having gone into it with no expectations, it didn't surprise me when those weren't fulfilled. But from SatC? I expected better than this, and my disappointment in the movie as a reflection of what women aspire to or dream of ramps up my "bitter" factor to 20.

Posted by: Shay at June 4, 2008 8:21 AM

You watched Sex and the City?

HA-HA! Fuzzy kitten!

Posted by: Tony at June 4, 2008 7:14 PM

i couldnt agree more with your review. i was/am a die-hard fan of the series, and this movie depressed, bored, disappointed me no end. people were laughing hysterically at things that werent even mildly funny to me, no sh*t they dumbed it down for a broader audience. what a cop-out.

Posted by: robin at June 5, 2008 1:07 PM

I enjoyed it, it is a movie people. If we made a sex movie based on real life it would be so F!#@$ depressing because people are heartless, careless and a little to freaky.

Posted by: Tia at June 6, 2008 12:17 AM

Whoa! If I had ever faced SatC as "a tiny window into the female ID", then I'd probably need a lot more therapy. I'd be some sorta gay without knowing it, cause I'd hate women with all my heart.

Seriously, that show was about actual windows into the real female universe like Desperate Housewives is about peaceful suburban neighbourhoods. Or Speed Racer The Movie to Nascar.

Posted by: gargumma at June 8, 2008 2:51 AM

I agree. I loved the series and was not impressed at all by the movie.

However, to the writer-you come off as ignorant and misogynistic when you suggest that "the show did very little to discourage men from continuing to call them shallow whores." Umm part of the whole point of the series is that these women don't live their lives based on how men perceive them. They live their lives how they want to live them, regardless of what men may think. This show was never meant to change men's perception of women. It was written as a show that women could relate to. If a woman chooses to be promiscuous, then she should not be judged to be a 'whore', in the same way that men are respected for doing the exact same thing. I am disturbed that you don't see the irony in what you are suggesting, which leads me to believe that you really don't understand the whole point of this show or women in general.

Posted by: Janine at June 9, 2008 11:36 AM

Sitting through this was like a bucket of ice cold water to the face. The funniest part for me was when the bitch who kicked me out of my seat (assigned seating = FUBAR), when faced with gratuitous Samantha-sex cried out," This isn't Prince Caspian" and promptly escaped the theatre with her 10yr olds...

PS - couldn't sell a goddamn line to a hard-up Amy Winehouse - Love it!

Posted by: Nxx at June 10, 2008 1:29 AM

janine ... mysognism is way, way underrated. any bright male stops trying to figure out women by the time he's 12.

Posted by: snake at June 10, 2008 11:03 AM

Your comments are right on target. Everyone dies in this film. The writing killed them.
Even Steve. And when did an "indiscretion" cause such havoc? Are these women, women or narcissicists? And in all of NYC could Carrie and Mr. Big not connect and figure out what the hell happened? Oh, the therapy scene with Steve and Miranda was atrocious.
From...A Therapist

Posted by: Sara at June 11, 2008 3:59 AM

Damn right, Janine. Men are fucking pigs. They think men seeking orgasm = cool and woman seeking orgasm = slut or whore. Who I sleep with and who often I choose to experience new and improved techniques is no one's biz but mine. When I moved to NY I made a bet with my roommate I could screw a different guy every night for four straight months. Best four months of my life.

Posted by: Bark and bite at June 11, 2008 8:13 AM

Late to the party, as usual. Oh well.

The tension in my house over using one of our rare, semi-annual, see-a-movie-in-the-theater outings is between...Iron Man and SatC. At least she's open to my choice (thank you, RDJ)! We've almost made it out the door twice to see Iron Man (and once for SatC, the failure to follow through being further evidence that there is a God). Looks like it will be DVD time yet again...sigh. And there's quite a backlog there, too, since the last/newest movie we watched at home was Lars and the Real Girl (an absolutely lovely film, BTW).

Such is grown-up life in Middle America.

Posted by: Grover at June 11, 2008 9:42 AM

Am I the only one who notices how frequently Dustin's self-conscious vitriol for Perez Hilton manifests itself in his reviews? Methinks thou doth protest too much

Posted by: Hello Cindy at June 11, 2008 8:24 PM

What dou you think about:
"I won´t eat it... C´mon... It´s Mexico"

Posted by: RU at June 18, 2008 2:01 PM

If you liked the series, you will love the movie. plain and simple. I loved it because it is a fucking MOVIE. I don't see anyone picking appart Jurassic Park, it's a MOVIE!!!!!! It aint gonnna happen in real life, but as as far as entertaining, that it is. I saw it on Sunday and I felt like I was catching up with 4 old friends. Of COURSE it is not completely true to life.....I challenge anyone to name one movie that IS! Talk about over-analyzing a flick, christ! And as far as Steve cheating....well, that's the whole point....life is not black and white. When he told Miranda what he did, the ENTIRE theatre GASPED. Months with no sex and being a bartender? C'mon, that is not hard to believe that Steve was human. And come on, we all wanted to see Carrie marry Big. And now we got it. I left the movie feeling..............satisfied.

Posted by: vicki at July 1, 2008 7:02 PM

If you liked the series, no, it does not automatically mean you will like the movie. I liked much of the series and wished I'd walked out of the movie. The writing was horrible, the characters were silenced, it was all stupid plot and fashion show. It didn't even come close to the best of the series. Also, there was an episode that I missed but saw after I saw the movie and yes, it's significant. It's in Season Four and is called The Vogue Idea...Carrie tells Julian (one of the editors) that her father abandoned her and her mother when Carrie was 5 years old and that she (Carrie) had no clue (to this day) why he left. Well, if that won't screw up a girl, I don't know what will.
So the writers used Carrie's damaging background for their own gain...the more damage, the more acting-out, and desperate behavior. Makes you wonder what male relative sexually molested Samantha as a child, huh?

Posted by: Susan at July 6, 2008 9:55 PM

If you liked the series, no, it does not automatically mean you will like the movie. I liked much of the series and wished I'd walked out of the movie. The writing was horrible, the characters were silenced, it was all stupid plot and fashion show. It didn't even come close to the best of the series. Also, there was an episode that I missed but saw after I saw the movie and yes, it's significant. It's in Season Four and is called The Vogue Idea...Carrie tells Julian (one of the editors) that her father abandoned her and her mother when Carrie was 5 years old and that she (Carrie) had no clue (to this day) why he left. Well, if that won't screw up a girl, I don't know what will.
So the writers used Carrie's damaging background for their own gain...the more damage, the more acting-out, and desperate behavior. Makes you wonder what male relative sexually molested Samantha as a child, huh?

Posted by: Susan at July 6, 2008 9:56 PM

You are one of the few who actually make sence. Thank you.

Posted by: Nicole at October 26, 2008 10:00 PM