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Pineapple Express / Dustin Rowles

Film Reviews | August 8, 2008 | Comments (117)


First, the good news: If you blaze up before watching The Pineapple Express, you’re probably going to think that it’s one of the funniest movies of the year. But then again, I was baked to the tits when I watched The Legend of Bagger Vance and I bawled like a little bitch. All I’m saying is: A little cannabis goes a long way toward dulling your critical faculties. And a forewarning: If you do decide to see Pineapple Express while you’re riding Mary Jane, don’t let that bitch buck off of you before the run time endeth; make sure you build up enough of a buzz to get you through two hours because if you come out of your fog during the last 45 minutes, you’re going to wonder what the fuck you were laughing for the last hour. My advice: Take a Scooby snack with you to ensure you’re able to maintain your toast.

For the sober among you, I have less fortunate news: The Pineapple Express lives up to its hype about as well the prospect of ridding yourself of that pesky virginity. Oh, it’s a fun idea all right, until that goddamn condom kills your lumber, you miss the hole, and you wind up nosebleeding all over your girlfriend’s face. (Also, you probably should’ve checked with your lady friend about her allergies before you used that spray-on deodorant to keep your junk smelling fresh.) You may even leave the experience thinking you enjoyed it, until you start to review the proceedings and the harsh reality sets in: You were about as suave as a fat guy chasing a chili-dog through a china shop and you just left your girlfriend with an infected labia. Nice job!

I read an interview somewhere earlier this week where Seth Rogen was talking about the difference between a stoner comedy, and comedies with stoners, saying Pineapple Express fell into the latter category. He was probably high when he said it. Watching the movie literally is akin to being the only sober guy in a room full of potheads. Sure, the second-hand smoke may keep you amused for a few minutes, but after awhile, you’re like, “Dude. I know, I love you, too, man. Yeah. Sure, we’re best friends, but I gotta go, OK? OK, brother. I’ll give you a hug, but seriously, I need to get the fuck outta here.” While Step Brothers was probably the product of Will Ferrell and Adam McKay, a couple of 40 year old guys, knocking back a few and then purging their thoughts onto the page, Pineapple Express similarly is the product of Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg tossing around ideas in-between tokes. And the fact that they wrote it several years ago shows: It’s one incredibly juvenile film, and may have actually worked better if the cast weren’t made up of a bunch of guys way too goddamn old to be acting like a group of giggly dipshits. The comparisons to Superbad, written around the same time as Pineapple are apropos, at least to a point: Where Superbad at least had some heart, Pineapple Express has absolutely no soul. It really is just another blathering pothead comedy, and to be honest, I liked the first Harold and Kumar better.

All of this is not to say that the movie didn’t have its moments; compared to the standard studio comedy, Pineapple Express is fucking Citizen Kane, if Charles Foster Kane were a stoner and Rosebud was some of the finest weed on the West coast. It follows Dale Denton (Seth Rogen), a 25-year-old process server who smokes up in his car, listens to a lot of talk radio, and dates a senior. In high school. His hook-up is Saul (James Franco), a low-level drug dealer who basically sits around his house, smokes cheeba, and giggles at reruns of “227.” And if you’ve been around stoners a lot, or are one yourself, the exchanges between Dale and Saul in the first half hour of the movie ring true. They talk about banal shit and somehow make it amusing; they talk about how awesome the other guy is; and they make a lot of uncomfortably inappropriate statements. But the wheels fall off as soon as they take the movie outside of Saul’s apartment. See, Dale, about to serve a subpoena on Ted Jones (Gary Cole) — the high-level dope slinger — witnesses Ted and a lady cop (Rosie Perez) murder an Asian guy, and Dale unwittingly gets himself involved in a turf war between the Asians and Ted Jones. In his haste to get the hell out of there, Dale tosses a roach on the street, Ted picks it up, recognizes the brand (Pineapple Express) and eventually traces it back to Saul, through the middle man Red (Danny McBride). A couple of hitmen (Craig Robinson from “The Office” and Kevin Corrigan from “Grounded for Life”) get involved, and the rest of the movie devolves into a bunch of stoners with guns chasing down a bunch of stoners without guns.

Granted, there are a lot of highlights in Pineapple Express. For one, James Franco fucking kills - he plays the hell out of his part, and he manages to stretch the shelf-life of a slacker pot dealer well past its expiration date. I also thought that Danny McBride, as the midlevel dealer, stole most of the scenes he was in — there’s a fight sequence between Red, Saul, and Dale in Red’s apartment that, alone, makes the movie worth seeing. David Gordon Green, who directed the elegiac All the Real Girls and the haunting Snow Angels does as best he can with the material — he gives Pineapple Express a slight indie aesthetic and makes the film a lot better than it has any right to be, at least until the last half hour, when it all goes to hell.

The biggest problem with Pineapple Express, as much as it pains me to say so, is not just the script, but Seth Rogen. I am, or at least I was, an unabashed Rogen fan, and he is definitely a guy it’d be fun to smoke a bowl with. But there’s only so much of the guy I can cope with. He’s great in smaller roles (Superbad) or as part of an ensemble comedy (Knocked Up), but his brand of deep-throat stonerism grows staler than a picnic sandwich left out in the sun. I’m not convinced it’s a shtick, either; I think he is that guy he plays in films, which doesn’t bode well at all for him taking on the role of the Green Hornet. Unfortunately, I think we may be looking at the next Will Ferrell.

And another thing about Pineapple Express: That gay shit gets old. Quick. I am not opposed to, nor am I offended by homoerotic humor, but Jesus: Use it sparingly. If you’ve seen Superbad, you know the sleeping bag scene between Jonah Hill and Michael Cera — that “I love you, man, and I wanna scream it from the rooftops” scene? Yeah: Well, picture that between two grown men, take it to the next level (“I wanna be inside of you, Holmes”), and add about 45 minutes to it, and you’ve got roughly half of Pineapple Express.. You may laugh at it a few times, but after a while, it gets creepy, and it completely loses its effectiveness. There’s nothing wrong with a little gay subtext, but Pineapple Express barely stops short of Seth Rogen bending James Franco over a chair and bursting a few anal capillaries. And believe you me, gay or straight, nobody wants to think about that.

But lookit: There’s a large group of folks, myself included, that’d probably see Pineapple Express regardless of the reviews they read. Rogen and Apatow, et. al., have a fairly devoted, though diminishing built-in audience, at least with their bigger comedies (and if the sold-out shows at the ArcLight last night were any indication, this movie is going to do well). And for those people, the best thing I can probably do is to simply temper the hype: If you’re not expecting it to be the decade’s best stoner comedy, you might be pleasantly surprised. But if you go in thinking you’re about to see a movie that’s going to slap your ass and leave red handprints of humor all over it, as I did, you’re going to be majorly disappointed. It’s not Knocked Up, it’s not Superbad, and it’s not even Forgetting Sarah Marshall. But what it is, is a movie a helluva lot better than Step Brothers or You Don’t Mess with the Zohan. Still, if you’ve got a ounce lying around, you’d be wise to smoke that shit up on the way to theater.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives with his wife and son in Portland, Maine. Please leave a comment or send an email.









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Comments

"...The Pineapple Express lives up to its hype about as well the prospect of ridding yourself of that pesky virginity.."


I don't know, those still rank as the best 30 seconds of my life

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 7, 2008 2:51 PM

"...The Pineapple Express lives up to its hype about as well the prospect of ridding yourself of that pesky virginity.."

O God(topus). Another night of tears.

Posted by: JakesAlterEgo at August 7, 2008 3:06 PM

come on. this movie is way better than that. solid way to spend a night.

Posted by: J at August 7, 2008 3:11 PM

I don't know, those still rank as the best 30 seconds of my life

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 7, 2008 2:51 PM


Showoff.

P.S. How is Seth Rogen only 26 years old?

Posted by: branded at August 7, 2008 3:11 PM

...those still rank as the best 30 seconds of my life.

Well, that makes one of you.

Posted by: Kolby at August 7, 2008 3:13 PM

Did that include the 20 minutes of crying?

Stoner comedies vs Comedies with Stoners in em...eh...I'll still watch that shit. This was pretty much just as I expected. However, I'm still gonna go watch it. Good review, though, Dustin.

(By the way...stop denying your Rogen manboy love and just get a room...seriously, dude)

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at August 7, 2008 3:16 PM

I took a flask and smoked an insanely large joint amongst friends of the finest medical-grade trainwreck.

It wasn't enough. I too have grown pretty tired of Seth Rogen. Everything he writes COMPLETELY ignores women, and turns them into a simple caricature. I know that's nothing new, but I expect more out of him! FREAKS AND GEEEEKS. OH GOD REMEMBER FREAKS AND GEEKS SETH, GO TOWARDS THE LIGHT.

Posted by: Alexa Castro at August 7, 2008 3:20 PM

"slap your ass and leave red handprints of humor all over it"

Now that's a movie I want to see...

Is the boy supposed to cry when it's over?

Posted by: anikitty at August 7, 2008 3:21 PM

Seth Rogen is the ragweed of pot and the Yahoo Serious of comedy. Accept it & move on.

Posted by: August 7, 2008 at August 7, 2008 3:28 PM

...and may have actually worked better if the cast weren't made up of a bunch of guys way too goddamn old to be acting like a group of giggly dipshits.

Jeebers Dustin, you sure know how to turn a phrase. Had me grinning like that mad, wise Cheshire.

This will inevitably end up in Mr. Pink's queue. Maybe I'll watch it. Maybe not.

Pot comedies don't always do it for me. I am always the non-imbiber in the room since pot gives me the same feeling as drinking a bottle of NyQuil. But it did make Eraserhead enormously funny, at least the parts I saw before I crashed out in the movie theater.

Posted by: Alabamapink at August 7, 2008 3:30 PM

Setting Rogen aside (I'm also tired of his shtick) I just HAVE to see this, for the following:

*Gary Cole (man doesn't work enough)

*Rosie Perez (C'mon Muuuuukiee....)

*James Franco, playing something beyond his pouty prettyboy stock character, and doing it well!

nuff said

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 7, 2008 3:31 PM

Is the boy supposed to cry when it's over?

If the knots are too tight.

Posted by: jM at August 7, 2008 3:34 PM

Yahoo Serious of comedy

Isn't Yahoo Serious already the Yahoo Serious of comedy? The surname's kind of ironic.

Obviously, without reading the details but getting the point right away, I'll probably like this a great deal. We'll see tomorrow.

Posted by: Jay at August 7, 2008 3:35 PM

James Franco really made this movie. I just wanted to see more of him and his pajama pants.

Posted by: Alex at August 7, 2008 3:41 PM

or more of him and less of his pajama pants...

Posted by: J at August 7, 2008 3:45 PM

I saw this last night after a screening of American Teen with the cast. I know the review for that went up a while back but I didn't want to read it until I saw it last night. Anyway - I thought it was a decent comedy. I didn't expect it to be as good as Knocked Up or Superbad (but I secretly hoped it would be), but I laughed my ass of every few minutes; and to me, that's what a comedy should do. James Franco was gold, but I'm not too tired of Seth Rogen yet. I know that day might be inevitable, especially if he's 'the next Will Ferrell', because I am beyond over him; but I hope it's not too soon.
One of my only qualms besides that was that James Franco's teeth are so perfect it was almost distracting. I don't have a drug dealer, but I wouldn't believe he was a drug dealer if his teeth were that astonishing.

Here's the link for the fight, by the way (what we do in life echoes in eternity!!): http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/8404bbb826

Posted by: Kash at August 7, 2008 3:52 PM

I thought this movie took out all the childish hack lines in superbad, which was still great, and added James Franco. WHICH IS A GREAT IDEA.

Posted by: tommy at August 7, 2008 3:53 PM

"...if Charles Foster Kane were a stoner and Rosebud was the finest weed on the West Coast."

Everybody knows that Rosebud was his bong, man.

Thanks for the heads-up, Dustin. My weed tolerance is mountain-high, so I would be out of my fog before the first half hour. Best for me to Netflix this so as to inhale throughout.

Posted by: brouhaha at August 7, 2008 3:55 PM

god yes, James Franco needs great comedy work coming his way STAT

Posted by: Alexa Castro at August 7, 2008 3:56 PM

And I think the part I was most looking forward to from the trailers is when Seth jumps off that balcony thing and assumes an action movie position. I don't know. Just something about Seth Rogen flying through the air like a ninja at Gary Cole...

Posted by: Kash at August 7, 2008 3:58 PM

This isnt the type of movie you go into expecting the most amazing film ever made. I went in expecting to be entertained, and I was. And I wasnt even stoned! (Had to babysit my nephew immediately after the showing. I'm all responsible and stuff.) My theatre was sold out, and I'll actually have to go see it again because some of the dialogue was drowned out by the crowd laughing. And I want to be baked like they were.
James Franco completely stole the movie. It would not have been nearly as good if Seth Rogen had gone with his original casting and played Saul.

Posted by: kayz at August 7, 2008 4:00 PM

Frankly, I'm disappointed to learn that this movie isn't about one man's life-affirming train ride across the Hawaiian islands.

But not nearly as disappointed as I was when it turned out the filmmakers behind The Dark Knight had decided to take a vastly divergent path from their source material and cast someone other than Martin Lawrence in the leading role.

That's the last time I dress up for a movie premiere...

Posted by: Macafee at August 7, 2008 4:03 PM

Snuck out of the office to catch this last night. I equated it to actually smoking pot, you giggle a little bit, then you get sleepy, then you forget about it.

Barbadoslim, Cole and Perez are absolutely wasted in this movie...and I don't mean baked on pot, they are only in it in brief moments and the characters could have been played by anyone, they have nothing to work with. Come to think of it, the whole movie is like that. People come and go, there are two subplots that are almost as if they were pasted in from other movies. It's a mishmash with some funny jokes thrown in. It's like they expanded a SNL sketch about a couple stoners instead of two guys trying to get in the Roxbury. If they spent a little less time on the extraneous shit and tightened what they had, it could have been a lot funnier.

Franco is really good, Rogen is just a straight man in this and I don't get all of the McBride love. At least Jonah Hill and his unfunny ass isn't in this. I was in the minority on Superbad and I guess I'll be in the minority on this one as well. But I say save it for DVD unless you really just want to see a movie and get out of the heat.

Posted by: Rubble44 at August 7, 2008 4:09 PM

Those American Apparel ads have been getting progressively creepier.

Posted by: EricD at August 7, 2008 4:20 PM

Cole and Perez are absolutely wasted in this movie...
Posted by: Rubble44 at August 7, 2008 4:09 PM

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Crap.

That's a disappointment, I'll see it this weekend anyway.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 7, 2008 4:25 PM

Seth Rogen - who would have been Yahoo Serious if there hadn't already been one.

Posted by: The Wanderer at August 7, 2008 4:55 PM

"Pineapple Express barely stops short of Seth Rogen bending James Franco over a chair and bursting a few anal capillaries. And believe you me, gay or straight, nobody wants to think about that."

Sadly enough, I really do.

Posted by: Jeremy at August 7, 2008 4:56 PM

I'm a little disappointed, but not surprised. Maybe Rogen is going the Will Ferrell route, but he's still a decent guy.

Rubble, I also disliked Superbad, but mainly because Jonah Hill's character was such an asshole. I couldn't stand him for more than 2 minutes. McLovin stole the film for me.

I'm thrilled to hear that Franco is good in this. I had a feeling he would be good in comedy. At least he's not playing some pussified goblin/pilot/soldier/whatever.

Posted by: Brie at August 7, 2008 5:00 PM

"...barely stops short of Seth Rogen bending James Franco over a chair and bursting a few anal capillaries..."

At least it might take some wind out of the slash writer's sails if they've been there already. No colon candy for them to plunder. Fuckin' slash. Who wants to see a gay storyline between Batman and Joker? That shit would give me nightmares.

Posted by: Goldie at August 7, 2008 5:08 PM

Those American Apparel ads have been getting progressively creepier.

Actually, EricD, I'm glad for the change. That girl in the black bathing suit popped up just too many times. My coworkers were starting to look at me funny.

Posted by: Brie at August 7, 2008 5:09 PM

"Who wants to see a gay storyline between Batman and Joker? That shit would give me nightmares."

Posted by: Goldie at August 7, 2008 5:08 PM

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Actually, Dark Knight is one of THE most homoerotic films in the history of cinema.
It's there, if you really pay attention...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 7, 2008 5:15 PM

Oh, Dustin, we'll be trading love-you's soon enough. After a couple of bong hits tonight, you'll be fending off Prisco's advances while I whisper in your ear, "Dude, I totally respect you. Now get naked." No, seriously, dude, it's the weed talking.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 7, 2008 5:43 PM

This movie had its moments but I was not very impressed.

I've got to say all the death started to get a little creepy too. Also, maybe its the feminist in me, but seeing a woman get hit in the face repeatedly is not my cup of tea. I know that "she was a cop and she was evil" but still yech.

Posted by: Erin at August 7, 2008 5:47 PM

Hehehehehehehe, they're gonna be dipping in Rowles' ink tonight.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 7, 2008 5:49 PM

Rubble44,

Thank you for expressing what I couldn't in such a concisely written comment.

Comedians, or comedic actors, are a unique lot in that they're able to initially come off as the funniest new thing on the planet, and everyone jumps on their bandwagon, myself included (I was once a die-hard Andrew Dice Clay fan, just so you know how much I regret that now).

The willingness to admit that what one initially thought was going to be the great next comedian, who only severely lets you down in the saddest ways possible with their subsequent work, is a character trait that I've always found to be one of the most human, and admirable, of people (and this of course just doesn't apply to comedic tastes, but to any subject you want to name).

Comedians, by and large, are insecure, brittle, psychologically fucked-up people to begin with. Once they're popular enough to think they can appear in any worthless piece of shit and those initial fans will ignore the stink and give them the big box-office returns anyway, it's time to remind them where they came from and why they were so stooopid to totally abandon the uniqueness that made them so popular in the first place.

Seth Rogen, Adam Sandler, Mike Meyers, Murphy, Ferrell, Jimmy Fallon - the list goes on forever. And, without any real research to back it up, I submit that it's mainly been in the last two decades that the majority of these 'humorists' have been allowed such unprecedented freedom, and been given so much to work with (Or change as they like), and resultingly have done so little with these opportunities.

I'm so glad Dustin saw fit to not unfairly tip the scales in either side's favor concerning this movie; another typically honest review that doesn't make me feel the least bit manipulated.

Posted by: TMax at August 7, 2008 5:50 PM

I haven't even read this review yet because I'm blinded by the new American Apparel banners. Good lord, and here I thought their previous set of images was bad enough. I've never wanted so badly to blow up a chain of (so-called) clothing stores.

Posted by: Roads at August 7, 2008 6:00 PM

Tmax, *clap* *clap**clap* beautiful post.

Wasted opportunities indeed and even sadder when you go back and see Murphy in Trading Places or Meyers on "So I Married An Axe Murderer" or doing Dieter, hell I remember Dice when he did "Making the Grade" and "Casual Sex," all these guys HAD IT.

Except Fallon.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 7, 2008 6:04 PM

Seriously Seth Rogen is 26? And he has all those (admittedly awful but they made him a pile of money) movies? Oh dear. I'm 26. I have made no movies, written nothing save an inane blog and silly comments on this delightful website. I'm going to take the moral high ground and decide it is better to have made absolutely no movies than to make awful ones that waste the time of the public. So there Seth Rogen! I'm better than you! My life's work is actually benefiting humanity. So HA! I WIN!

Posted by: libraryliz at August 7, 2008 6:07 PM

While I believe it's the weakest of the apatow/rogen films so far, I think that it was still really, unflinchingly awesome. I laughed a lot. Solid movie.

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at August 7, 2008 6:11 PM

Who wants to see a gay storyline between Batman and Joker? That shit would give me nightmares.

Christian Bale as Batman and a still-living Heath Ledger as Joker? Fuck, I'd want to see that, even if it would invariably turn into hardcore bondage porn. (I'm not normally into the bondage porn, but this would be bondage porn with Christian Bale.)

Posted by: jeem at August 7, 2008 6:17 PM

Thank you, Mr. Slim. Agreed, Fallon was/is more or less an Adam Sandler wannabe/neverwas (like that Adam Samberg guy from the current SNL), and he's going to bite harder than Chevy Chase ever did when he had his own late-night show.. And a Dieter film would have blown that piece-of-kaka 'Love Guru' idea out of existence.

They just don't know their own limitations, y'know?

Posted by: TMax at August 7, 2008 6:20 PM

My copy of Syd Field's: The Foundations of Screenwriting say you are way off.

This movie had character arcs! CHARACTER ARCS!!

And besides, the 'spolsions were pretty good. I liked it better than Superbad and 40 Year old Virgin.

But Seth Rogen does sound like a Pug-Dog Human Man and its kind of auditorially grating.

Posted by: Brian at August 7, 2008 6:33 PM

Maybe I just lead a ridiculous life and have a tendency to embark on epic journeys with my drug dealer/drug friends, but I found this film (almost) so fucking relatable. There were so many conversations in Pineapple Express had that I swear I have had with various people.



(Spoiler?)

Just, you know, minus the guns/blaze of glory shit. Pretty sure I haven't been shot at yet.

Posted by: Ashley at August 7, 2008 7:23 PM

All I know is that Seth Rogen hits a shit load more than he misses.

Posted by: joey weasel at August 7, 2008 7:30 PM

"Pretty sure I haven't been shot at yet..."

Posted by: Ashley at August 7, 2008 7:23 PM


Hey, let's make that happen...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 7, 2008 7:38 PM

I like Seth Rogen quite a bit, so far he's done far more good than bad, but I've seen him interviewed several time (most recently on the Daily Show), and he IS that guy he plays...all the way down to that gruff little heh-heh-heh laugh after every comment he makes.

Posted by: kushiro at August 7, 2008 7:42 PM

"Pineapple Express barely stops short of Seth Rogen bending James Franco over a chair and bursting a few anal capillaries. And believe you me, gay or straight, nobody wants to think about that."

Speak for yourself.

Posted by: RoboPanda at August 7, 2008 8:00 PM

Yes but I'm a 32 year old librarian who likes Seth Rogen's movies.

Obviously, this has to be settled with pistols.


(nothing beats Johnny Marr breaking up The Smiths at 23. That's when they were over. 23. Makes ya break out





in a cold sweat





)

Posted by: Jay at August 7, 2008 8:02 PM

You can add with Christian Bale to the end of any sentence and turn the banal and/or frightening into an erotic Adventureland.

It's just...too easy.

Posted by: Wednesday at August 7, 2008 8:34 PM

Imma gonna smoke a big fat joint and NOT see this...... heheheheeee....
Wait, what????

Posted by: LadyJane at August 7, 2008 8:41 PM

"...even if it would invariably turn into hardcore bondage porn...

*shrug* Two guys doin' it just doesn't do it for me, no matter how hot they are. Just between me and the intranets, Christian Bale is my prime shower nozzle masturbation material. But I don't share him. Not even with Heath Ledger.

Posted by: Goldie at August 7, 2008 8:43 PM

Giggiggityy

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 7, 2008 8:53 PM

"You were about as suave as a fat guy chasing a chili-dog through a china shop and you just left your girlfriend with an infected labia. Nice job!"
I nominate this for the first Pajiba-Sized Bitch reviewer award (which would almost be as great an honor as being a "Top 10 Comment of the Week").

"barely stops short of Seth Rogen bending James Franco over a chair...nobody wants to think about that." Don't underestimate the freaky-ness of Pajiba readers. To properly fill in the blank after "nobody wants to think about ___" you need a name like Fred Durst.

Kash posted: "I saw this last night after a screening of American Teen with the cast." A documentary with a cast? Hmmm, this may be the most concise review of that movie.

I was dreaming when I wrote this so sue me if I sounded warped (--> smoked a big salad with hash dressing, to read the REVIEW for this movie. THAT's commitment, bitches).

Posted by: Posted by: at at August 7, 2008 9:02 PM

Jay, I get that a lot of people like Seth Rogen's movies. I just don't. To be fair I don't like pretty much any stoner humor, grossout humor, etc. It's far much more a personal thing than a "librarian" thing. I was just teasing because I can't believe he's only 26. And Johnny Marr at 23. Or all the gymnasts/athletes about to be unrelentenly released on us by the Olympics. They all achieve their life's dream of a gold medal at 14 years of age. Yeah, makes you feel a bit underproductive doesn't it? But at least you're not going to peak too soon! Or maybe it's just me, again, like apparently the disliking Seth Rogen's style is.

Posted by: libraryliz at August 7, 2008 9:03 PM

Ashley,

I actually stopped my (rare) live viewing of Big Brother 10 just to respond to your comment (thanx to DVR once again)

That's the single funniest, honest thing (to me) that you mentioned in your comment: the conversations & encounters you described are indeed totally relatable.

I saw a 4-5 min. preview of 'Express' online over 3 months ago, which consisted entirely of Rogen sampling, commenting, and listening to the dealer's descriptions of various strains of pot, just the two of them.

Honest to God, I thought I had stumbled onto a documentary, albeit the most inanely boring kind one can imagine, and a ritual I've experienced more often than I care to remember.

I've had those exact same "dude-this-shit-will-blow-your-mind" conversations. Was there a certain nostalgia I felt watching this clip? Yeah, for about the first 27 seconds, whereinafter my traditional Saturday morning-induced buzz convinced me that this film was not really going to work on any level, chemically-induced or not. As for actual comedy to be derived from this seemingly pointless online clip, I felt rather stunned to realize that it was indeed meant to be just that, since the piece I saw was totally unambiguous from beginning to conclusion. So THAT passes for comedy nowadays, huh?

Be sure to soak that shit up real good, Generation Douchebag, thus further insuring your own demise from the current civilization that knows better, asswipes!! I'm so sure your own parents aren't nearly as hip enough to know what true comedy is, am I right?

Okay, drunken lecture finished. You young'uns drag yer sorry asses to this movie and laugh your goddamned ignorant heads off.

I'll relax here in my recliner with some nice vino & Richard Pryor's 'Which Way Is Up' DVD to remind me that this world was sane & actually had a sense of humor once upon a time.

Any of you newbies say anything you want about how "quaint" Cheech & Chong may seem now - those dudes embodied the weed generation in a way that will never be equalled by the jaded, post-crack/ecstacy/methamphetimine crowd: their pathetic attempts at duplicating such are designed purely for the ones who don't remember the originals.

However, I'll always be a mighty defender of the more recent 'Half-Baked', the only stoner movie to come close since anything by C & C - Chapelle RULES!

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'Franzian Rant' dedicated to Mr. Prisco

As always, thanks for not judging me, Mo(Meaux) - you're a fine internet friend & I appreciate your comments

Posted by: TMax at August 7, 2008 9:10 PM

The image that Dustin used to post this review is eerily familiar... an ode to Wayne's World?

I've not seen Knocked Up as I've only heard bad things from those who did go to see it. I suppose watching about being split open from v to a and pooping in front of people is not very high on my humorous movie list.

Posted by: popejenn at August 7, 2008 9:27 PM

I might get this on DVD to waste some time. Or not. I don't partake myself so whenever I watch these movies about 90% of the action makes less than no sense to me, even though I know stoners. It just all seems so... illogical.

Oh, and I'm kind of with Jeremy and RoboPanda. Seth Rogen can do whatever he likes with James Franco as long as I get a shot at Franco first.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at August 7, 2008 9:32 PM

Seriously Seth Rogen is 26? And he has all those (admittedly awful but they made him a pile of money) movies? Oh dear. I'm 26. I have made no movies, written nothing save an inane blog and silly comments on this delightful website. I'm going to take the moral high ground and decide it is better to have made absolutely no movies than to make awful ones that waste the time of the public.
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I'm also 26, and now dating with an older rich man on an age-gap dating club ♥ ♥AgelessOnly.COM♥ ♥.

Posted by: Alan at August 7, 2008 10:25 PM

Yeah, RoboPanda, that was so funny. Your hair is so shiny. I just want to watch Groundhog Day with you.

Posted by: jM at August 7, 2008 10:29 PM

Wow, the spambots are getting downright INTELLIGENT in their methods. I'm scared. If anyone needs me I'll be turning my basement into a bunker to escape the inevitable zombie/spambot apocalypse.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at August 7, 2008 10:56 PM

Pineapple Express barely stops short of Seth Rogen bending James Franco over a chair and bursting a few anal capillaries. And believe you me, gay or straight, nobody wants to think about that.

I want to think about that. I'm thinking about it right now.

Posted by: iguanodonna at August 7, 2008 11:36 PM

It is a very good chance I might lose my job tomorrow. My boss assigned me a project to do and tomorrow I have to show my results. I'm so fucking tired of going to work everyday, I just don't care anymore. I ask for a raise, but does he give it to me, No. I bet if I were one of those motherfuckers that came in every morning with coffee and doughnuts I'd get a raise. My life is so fucked up, I might as well just go move in with my sister. Why the fuck does my boss have to pick me to do shit, go ask somebody else, shit! I'm thinking about calling in sick. I wish I could but I have to go pick up my check.

Posted by: Pookie at August 8, 2008 12:04 AM

Pineapple Express barely stops short of Seth Rogen bending James Franco over a chair and bursting a few anal capillaries. And believe you me, gay or straight, nobody wants to think about that-- Speak for yourself, man. Speak for yourself.

Posted by: Moogles at August 8, 2008 12:19 AM

Pookie, some bosses give you special projects because they have such unwavering confidence in you that they know you'll get the job done, and get it done well. That's how we feel about you here at Pajiba.

Some bosses, on the other hand, give you the special projects because they are evil and want to break you. And laugh when you ask for a raise.

Either way, you know you've won when you get the paycheck. Stay strong!

Posted by: ncnn at August 8, 2008 12:29 AM

I'm sick of stoner movies, or movies with stoners in them.

So that's why I'm not going to see this movie. Also because I have nowhere to get weed from, which could make this movie better, like your suggestion.

My uncle used to grow weed in my nana's backyard. She was naïve and thought they were actually weeds, so she pulled them out.

I guess I could go see this movie after all. And apparently my new painkillers increase the effect of alcohol, so I could get some cheap and nasty goon and maybe a visit to my uncle...

I wonder if you could do a stoner movie about heroin. Or ice, Ben Cousins could star in it.

Posted by: Bakers_dozen at August 8, 2008 12:43 AM

I don't know about you, Pookie, but I'm not even sure the paycheque is even worth it anymore.

The Man is sucking my soul dry, taking every last drop of my human dignity. I kneel before him in the manner of Lewinsky and don't even get the benefit of a stained dress.

Yes, I know it's an old and tired joke, but I too, am an old and tired joke.

Posted by: popejenn at August 8, 2008 12:43 AM

Oh heavens, did I just get replied to by a spambot? I'm joining Genny in her bunker to prepare for the apocalypse.

Posted by: libraryliz at August 8, 2008 1:55 AM

Awww...I really liked this movie, and I wasn't high at all.

I dunno, I like Rogen, and I felt it was a little too insulting to refer to him as the next Will Ferrell (I forget how to spell it). No matter what, Rogen just comes off in a likable perspective (to me, anyway), and despite the review, as well as that of Superbad some time ago, I think these are the best comedies coming out these days, especially in the midst of all the Love Guru, Harold & Kumar sequels (save for NPH), and the *ENTER CATEGORY HERE* MOVIE. (I may be at a difference with you with this review and a few others, Dustin, but please...don't you or ANYONE ELSE for that matter, put yourself through Disaster Movie...nobody deserves to be put through that.)

I just think that this type of comedy may not be for everybody. And yes, I fully am aware that the primary situation of Pineapple Express is beyond anything realistic, as well as many of the situations in Superbad, but be that as it may, sometimes we need a little something beyond imagination to make us laugh. I dunno...maybe I'm wrong, and I have been before, but this movie was great. My opinion, it's worth it. But that's just me.

Posted by: Riley at August 8, 2008 2:00 AM

Now wait hold up back up, James Franco can act? You know, the thing that involves having more than one facial expression? To me, he always looks like the void between his ears is expanding exponentially with every passing minute.

Posted by: Irina at August 8, 2008 5:49 AM

gay subtext gets old? since when? it's nice to see that some people are finally becoming self-aware to the fact that straight men are sometimes very, very gay with each other. and that's okay. plus it's so very, very nice for the females. why not say instead that the whole lesbian thing is getting old, because that would actually have some reasoning behind it considering how LONG it's gone on for. the whole homoerotic thing has just started gaining steam (you know, publicly anyway - girls have been dreaming about it for years), so get used to it. fair is fair. :)
as for the movie on a whole, i thought it was somewhat uninspired... i was expecting a LOT more from it. but it was still extremely funny. my friends and i could not stop laughing!

Posted by: erin at August 8, 2008 6:09 AM

Interesting point about Johnny Marr. Of course, I can't refrain from pointing out in SAT-inspired fashion that Seth Rogen is decidedly not to film what The Smiths are to music.

Posted by: samantha t at August 8, 2008 7:04 AM

You were about as suave as a fat guy chasing a chili-dog through a china shop and you just left your girlfriend with an infected labia. Nice job!

And I edge ever closer to being fired for laughing at the movie reviews I'm reading at work. Eh, totally worth it...

Re: Alan the spambot, I've been noticing over the last week or so that his replies are always freakishly human-sounding; good grammar, logical tie-ins to previous comments and now a full-on quote? Anyone got some spare room in their apocalypse-proof basement? I'll trade vodka and/or sexual favours!

Oh, and add me to the ever-growing list of those who would be perfectly alright with seeing some Rogen/Franco action. Rogen is cute in a doofy sort of way, and more crucially, Franco's an utter ride. What's not to love?

Posted by: Shay at August 8, 2008 7:45 AM

Shay - I haven't heard somebody use "ride" since I spent a semester in Ireland 15 years ago. Are you Irish? God, I loved when people used that word. I found it hilarious.

Posted by: samantha t at August 8, 2008 10:04 AM

I got tricked into seeing this movie, and, as it turned out, I WAS the only sober person in a theater full of stoners. I spent the first hour wondering if there was something wrong with me until their buzz wore off, and then they all stopped laughing too.

Posted by: gina at August 8, 2008 10:33 AM

samantha t, yep, born and (mostly) raised in Dublin, currently a student in Trinity, whihc I'd guess is where you did your semester? And "ride" (pronounced "roide" for the most authenticity) is one of those awesome words that's almost infinitely adaptable - verb ("C'mere 'til I ride ye!" "Ride me sideways!"), noun ("Jake Gyllenhaal is the biggest ride I've ever seen", "D'ye fancy a bit of a ride there?") and even, with minor adjustments, adjective ("He's utterly ridable").

Posted by: Shay at August 8, 2008 11:08 AM

samantha t, yep, born and (mostly) raised in Dublin, currently a student in Trinity, whihc I'd guess is where you did your semester? And "ride" (pronounced "roide" for the most authenticity) is one of those awesome words that's almost infinitely adaptable - verb ("C'mere 'til I ride ye!" "Ride me sideways!"), noun ("Jake Gyllenhaal is the biggest ride I've ever seen", "D'ye fancy a bit of a ride there?") and even, with minor adjustments, adjective ("He's utterly ridable").

Thus concludes today's lesson on how to ask for sex in Ireland (and/or how to not accept Surprise Sex when you think someone's offering you a ride in their car)

Posted by: Shay at August 8, 2008 11:09 AM

...God dammit.

Posted by: Shay at August 8, 2008 11:10 AM

How did I know.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at August 8, 2008 11:29 AM

I like milk. Just thought I'd throw that out there...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at August 8, 2008 11:55 AM

Franco was solid, and funny, McBride was funny as hell, Rogen did what he was supposed to do as the nominal straight man, Cole was reliable (as usual), story wasn't predictable, dialogue was several cuts above..

I saw the thing straight. LMAO. It's infinitely better, and funnier, than 99% of what's passed off as "comedy." What's not to like?

Posted by: oh yeah? at August 8, 2008 12:02 PM

i don't like reading "infected labia"

oh yeah, and i ama HUGE weedlovah, but I'm not amused by watching stupid stoner movies

Posted by: Plobes at August 8, 2008 2:03 PM

Shay - I was at UCC as I didn't have the grades for Trinity. Langers (ah, nostalgia). I remember a couple of my (American) boyfriend's (Irish) roommates saying "roide" in a super-exaggerated way, so I had a feeling that was the "authentic" way to say it. I was only 19 at the time, so I fancied myself quite a ride, I imagine.

Posted by: samantha t at August 8, 2008 2:45 PM

"gay subtext gets old? since when? it's nice to see that some people are finally becoming self-aware to the fact that straight men are sometimes very, very gay with each other."

And if you're a gay male who's not TOO gay for your close male friends, then they are all about the "playing-gay." Or so I've heard.

[No homo]

Posted by: RockMeJesus at August 8, 2008 5:29 PM

Yeah, saw it completely sober a few hours ago and really liked it. Quelle surprise!!

Posted by: Jay at August 8, 2008 6:38 PM

samantha t - Langer! Amazing, I can't believe that was already prevalent in student-speak 15 years ago (to be fair, I was 6 at the time). And UCC is grand; I love the campus there, and the nightlife is pretty good. As long as you avoided UCDD (University College Dublin, Dublin. No joke) all is well. I assume you got the usual treatment of "Teach the American a few words of Irish and laugh at her pronunciation"? One of the best Irish language moments I've ever had was explaining to a girl from Connecticut that the Irish for "You're annoying me!" translates as "You're putting it into me!" She was appalled.

RockMeJesus, yeah, totally. I know some straight guys who are actually more touchy-feely than any gay guys I've ever met.

Posted by: Shay at August 8, 2008 7:32 PM

Just got back from this and couldn't believe how much I laughed (completely unaltered, I might add). I thought it was great! Rogen and Franco are a great team, and McBride about killed me during the apartment fight scene - SO goddamn funny. I recommend it.

"Thug life!"

Posted by: Another Jen at August 8, 2008 7:36 PM

Judge you, TMax? Never, my friend! You amuse the hell out of me! Huh, I've never watched any Cheech & Chong, but I'm quite sure I would enjoy it. What about Harold and Kumar? I liked those films...the first one, particularly, though I could have done without Freakshow...oh, Detective Stabler, why?! Anyway....

Count me among the not-yet-sick of Seth Rogen, and I've heard so much good about Franco's performance that I think I'll like this film. You know, when it's out on video....

Posted by: MO(meaux) at August 8, 2008 8:03 PM

Ok, ok, I have to defend Seth here.

Some people have been comparing him negatively with Will Ferrell. For one, let's not forget that Ferrell's had a pretty good track record for quality. Anchorman, Ricky Bobby, Dick, Elf, Zoolander, Stranger Than Fiction, Old School, among others.

People have criticized him about stretching, conveniently forgetting that he started out as an actor, now writes, and just wrote and shot an action movie. Next up is a superhero movie and a dark comedy set in the apocalypse. Pretty different stuff.

I really don't get the feeling that Seth is a sell-out or just phoning it in. He's very critical of actors doing that as seen in his GQ interview. He's turned down big money, as well as talked about cooling it a bit after he does the apocalypse movie out around '09 or '10.

In my opinion, the only thing Rogen is guilty of is making movies he thinks are funny and taking care of his friends by putting them in them, and luckily most of his friends are talented and funny as well. Let's not hate, people. The more Rogen and Apatow movies that make money, the more well-written and subversive comedies there will be, versus "Adjective/Noun" Movie.

And my God no one wants that.

Posted by: Meth Rogen at August 8, 2008 9:15 PM

Ditto the different meanings of "pants" and "fanny." I also loved the use of "your man." At that time, women still got half-pints at the bar, in spite of ordering full pints, and were automatically pegged as American if they were wearing baseball hats (which I, embarrassingly enough, did). Y'all were not a rich country as you are now, as I'm sure you know. I think there were two or three government-run television channels. At U.C.C., one could only borrow two books at a time from the library, which I just couldn't get over, and my friends who lived in off-campus apartments had no heat whatsoever. It was such an eye-opener for me and made me realize how truly pampered and soft I was.

I still maintain that the Irish are among the most literate people in the world. I was truly mortified by my crap grasp of literature/language, even though I had an allegedly fancy education. I imagine this is still the case.

I digress. The Irish are just lovely (to be pronounced appropriately, of course).

Posted by: samantha t at August 8, 2008 10:18 PM

To quote a man who was once very funny and original: "If it isn't Irish, it's CRAP!"

Posted by: popejenn at August 9, 2008 2:05 AM

Reading all the hype and background before this, they've made it perfectly clear that Pineapple Express is a completely indulgent exercise of Rogen and Goldberg to find out what happens if stoners were in an action flick.

That being said, it's an entertaining enough piece of indulgence, which is more than what can be said for most such Hollywood works. I'm willing to overlook the film's various flaws as an exception to a straight attempt to make a decent movie, but it was no FSM, SB or KU.

What pisses me off most about Apatow-related works is their complete inability to close off certain plot elements, especially romantic/personal relationships. Whatever does happen after Ben rips Pete for being an ass of a husband (KU), or Sarah Marshall after she gets dumped (FSM), or Angie and Dale (PE)? That a producer can just accept that certain things can be left hanging for no reason at all is pure laziness.

And for some reason there was something intolerably annoying about Rosie Perez every time she appeared onscreen. Too bad.

Posted by: Kelvin at August 9, 2008 5:52 AM

And for some reason there was something intolerably annoying about Rosie Perez every time she appeared onscreen.

Do you and Rosie not have a history? She was the one person I was afraid could, pardon the phrase, harsh this movie for me. If you haven't seen "Do The Right Thing", you don't know the levels of annoying she can reach.

Credit where it's due, Ms. Perez. You were almost mellow.

As for plot elements, I'm still wondering who the bench pressing neighbor of Red's is. The camera pointedly looked over there. But then, these movies often have Spinal Tap-like acres of subplots and extra footage so things probably eventually get chopped with some rough edges. But what I applaud the actors and writers who work with Judd for is this consistency in underplaying lines. It's like a house style, this throwaway, even muttered, absurdism, that kills me, and it can take a second to process the line, and if someone's next to you you might say "did they just say---?". Even lines that aren't strange get delivered hilariously, ie. "Wouldn't it be great if you pulled up a wood floor and there was carpet underneath? That's never the case". I don't know why, but I'm glad these people do all work together.

Posted by: Jay at August 9, 2008 9:28 AM

I was not completely sober when I wrote that last comment.

I meant to paraphrase Mike Myers, since the original quote was about the Scottish.

I'll just crawl back into my shame hole and tunnel further into retardville.

Posted by: popejenn at August 9, 2008 9:56 AM

Maybe I'm Katherine Heigl from Knocked Up in terms of my attitude towards Seth Rogen: I just can't forget about him and go for some other guy who's probably going to be way more successful and last longer. I love his schlubbyness, whether or not it's simply a silver screen portrayal or him personally, and I think his voice is very sexy.

I'm going to see this tonight.

Posted by: duckandcover at August 9, 2008 12:37 PM

Watched this with an older couple sitting behind us. Wife asks the husband two minutes into the first scene:

"What's that he's smoking?"

I shit you not.

Posted by: Katie F at August 9, 2008 2:07 PM

Wow, an off review. Sorry not a chance, this was hilarious.

Posted by: Alex at August 9, 2008 3:24 PM

I have my doubts about the movie when I saw the preview. I really liked Superbad and Knocked Up, so this arguably, was a longshot for these guys. Franco is a pretty good actor though, being that he happened upon acting late in high school when he was on Freaks and Geeks. Seth Rogen, however, has limited range, at times, he is just playing himself and I'm not sure that could be considered acting. I sort of love him to death, but want him to do other things. I'm looking for some Pineapple to smoke before I see this one. My favorite part in the preview is when Franco pulls his groin trying to shatter the windshield during the chase scene. hahahah!

Posted by: ph at August 9, 2008 5:17 PM

I was never one of those guys that bought into the myth about the husky guy getting the hot model. I was raised to believe that the only way to get a model is by having a lot of money or by having some good dope.

Posted by: Pookie at August 9, 2008 7:21 PM

samantha t - poverty, coldness and gender stereotyping? Yep, that sounds just about right to me. But I'm glad you enjoyed your time here regardless; all things considered, this isn't a bad little rock to have your home on. (Gotta say though, I'm imagining a conversation where you used "fanny" in the wrong context and it's really cracking me up! Hee!)

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go point and laugh at popejenn...

Posted by: Shay at August 10, 2008 8:11 AM

*Tunnels past retardville, makes a left turn at Albuquerque, and heads over to Cluster-Fuck City*

I think I'll stay here a while!

Posted by: popejenn at August 10, 2008 11:49 AM

While I'll admit that Pineapple Express is no Knocked Up or Superbad, it's way, waaay better than this review would have you believe. I laughed my ass off from start to finish, and the last thing I smoked was a hookah pipe in March.

P.S. Oh, and I actually think Harold and Kumar sucked ass. I laughed once the entire movie, and it was for the montage scene between Kumar and his giant weed bag. Other than that, meh.

Posted by: monkey_b at August 11, 2008 1:10 AM

I agree completely monkey_b. I really think this is one of those situations where expectations got in the way of Dustin's enjoyment of the movie. I did crush some brownies about an hour before to make sure my buzz wouldn't wear out though.

Posted by: Handel at August 11, 2008 7:13 PM

It's frustrating that the emotional/male-bonding aspect of the Apatow movies, while not all awesome (Knocked Up felt like a chore the second time through it - trust me), get only passively mentioned, while debates about how funny they are run rampantly into the ground. Humor, even more so than suspense or dramatics, is so severely objective it makes me cringe whenever people over-analyze it (plus we all know how unfruitful it is to try to explain why a joke is funny).

I saw Pineapple Express twice this weekend, the first time I've done this since 28 Days Later, not only because I personally found it hilarious (sober both times), but also because I felt like the relationships between the characters (plus the meta-homage that was revered but quickly forgotten come year-end list time in another action-comedy masterpiece, Hot Fuzz) were incredibly heartwarming. Superbad had a similar effect, but Hill and Cera are kinda one-note guys, whereas Rogen (while not astounding, but serviceable in more than two gradations), McBride, and specifically Franco all totally stole my heart. Thanks certainly in part to Green's sweet and playful direction (the girl watching Franco on the swing? the Butch Cassidy-esque woods montage?), I totally felt for the construction, destruction, and predictable but immensely satisfying forgiveness between the three.

There is something very ironically focused (clutterbug Knocked Up comes to mind as the antithesis) and progressive (as opposed to the constant self-pitying in the otherwise enjoyable Forgetting Sarah Marshall) in this, what I personally think is the best Apatow film yet. I watched these three characters like I listen to a Pavement record: an intense need to be loved and to love disguised as the celebration of American slacker ethic.

Posted by: vinniedelpino at August 11, 2008 11:44 PM

That should read "subjective" in the first paragraph, not "objective," woops.

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Posted by: atoz at August 12, 2008 10:34 AM

Do you and Rosie not have a history? She was the one person I was afraid could, pardon the phrase, harsh this movie for me. If you haven't seen "Do The Right Thing", you don't know the levels of annoying she can reach.

No history. If that's what reviewers and commenters meant when they say that her talents were "wasted"... ...then "relief" is all I have to say about that.

Harold & Kumar was great, if only because the ethnic jokes appealed more to my personal experiences. But H&K2 looked way too political from a mile away, so I've been staying clear of it.

Agree with the lack of male bonding reviewing. I'd say this film handled it better than Forgetting or Knocked.

Posted by: Kelvin at August 12, 2008 3:36 PM

Maaannnnnnn, I don't care what anyone says. I saw this movie sober (never smoked a joint in my life), and this movie was funny as hell. I hadn't laughed that hard since Borat.

I don't get the PE hate. Really, I don't. Franco is awesome as hell, Rogen is witty and funny. And frankly, I couldn't care less about Superbad or Knocked Up, as I happily boycotted those films. I pretty much hated every clip I saw of those movies, but I loved nearly every scene IN PE.

Maybe I'm just not a fan of Rogen's usual work, and that's the difference? I haven't got a clue. But dammit, I loved this film. I wanted to watch it again as soon as it ended.

Posted by: AD at August 12, 2008 7:42 PM

I loved this. I loved this to bits.

I am an unabashed Rogen fan and the hysterically ridiculous script and affable characterization that I loved in Superbad and its ilk did not disappoint here. I laughed throughout, felt genuinely for the characters (Franco was flawless) and never felt awkwardly sober.

This was miles better than Forgetting Sarah Marshall which was just felt so, so lacking and overly trite.

So, boo!

Posted by: Jams at August 13, 2008 12:39 AM

Uh, have a sense of humor much up there in Maine? I think you need to get out a little more. Did you even realize that Red was a former gay prostitute? Hence the, "I want to be inside you" comment. Lighten up. Diminishing fan base? RU serious? Iraq isn't getting THAT much better man. Harsh review by someone who probably I would guess isn't a smoker.

Posted by: Swany at August 13, 2008 11:30 AM

how in thi hell can you not like that movie? im no stoner and i still thought it was shit your pants funny, you need to get a since of humor you lame yanky,

Posted by: spud at August 16, 2008 1:26 AM

I went and saw it yesterday and was entertained enough to feel that it was worth my matinée ticket. I laughed plenty, covered my eyes for the ear part, and laughed even harder when, during a surprising moment, an audience member said quite loudly "What!"

I wasn't high to go see it, but I felt high the more I watched the movie.

Posted by: Sharon at August 16, 2008 7:42 AM

This is like the cicadas hatching...a once every generation event...I finally saw a movie in the theater close enough to its release that I'm in a position to post a timely comment here (late in the game though it may be). This feels odd. Odd not only because of the first-time trepidation, but because I disagree with Dustin. Mostly.

Weed never did it for me. I may have altered my brain chemistry in many other ways, but weed is just...meh. But I did gain significant insight into the stoner culture during my freshman year at Oregon State by virtue of living across the hall from a couple of militant stoners, one of whom also dealt. These guys had to move the rolled up towel from under their door to let people in -- and to keep the smoke from ROLLING out. Very literally.

So much for qualification. Some things don't change, and stoner culture is one. Rogen and company nailed it here, and Franco's performance is sheer genius. In fact, I'll take Franco's Saul over Penn's Spicoli as the new stoner gold standard.

Pineapple Express is laugh out loud funny throughout, although I suspect there's a fault line dividing those who are/know stoners and those sainted souls who are oblivious to Mary Jane. I haven't seen Harold and Kumar so I can't comment on a comparison, but the trailers for it sure did turn me off. Thus, it's hard for me to believe -- as Dustin asserted -- that it's better than PE.

My major gripe with PE would be that it's overly schizophrenic. There's quite a bit of violence and gore (the delicate Mrs. Grover had to avert her eyes on a couple of occasions), yet it never really satisfies as an action movie. The bad guys are largely caricatures, and the Gary Cole character (Ted Jones) is so disposable that you wonder how much characterization was left on the cutting room floor (or in the Trash folder as a nod to this digital age).

I find myself far more enthusiastic about PE than Dustin, irrespective of one's take on Seth Rogen. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Che Grovera at August 17, 2008 9:42 AM

What a total waste of time. This movie is shit.

Posted by: mike at August 20, 2008 10:01 AM

I'm so glad I dipped in your ink bro...

Posted by: JF at August 23, 2008 2:38 PM

No one's going to read this by now.

Saw it last night...legally. Yeah, whatever.

Maybe it's less boring if you see it on a theatre screen.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at August 24, 2008 2:11 PM

Great Review but the flick was betta than you lead us to believe. Too much slapstick filler in the end, but we weren't really anticipating an Oscar winner here. Seth Rogen is just Seth Rogen...and he has a talent to make us laugh. Toke up and enjoy the absurdity and wish you could grow white widow lookin colas like the props guys were able to simulate.

Posted by: MaxMan at August 24, 2008 10:31 PM

I agree with your critical breadown of Pineapple Express, to an extent.

...but, I do believe you spent a little too much time hacking the shit out of a film where James Franco and Seth Rogen bump uglies with their hand tied behind their backs.

Needless to say, this film wasn't meant to be some epic-stoner-comedy, whatever the fuck you wanna classify it...*puke*

It's entertaining, hilarious at times, and just another movie like 'Friday.'

I always wanted to be a cinematographer growing up...maybe you should look into it.
May pay better than blogging bullshit, aswell.

Posted by: Jam at September 8, 2008 4:40 AM



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