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Ocean’s Thirteen / Dustin Rowles

Film Reviews | June 8, 2007 | Comments (58)


A confession: I liked Ocean’s Twelve. In fact, I liked it a lot. If you can divorce it in your mind from the almost too brilliant Ocean’s Eleven, it stands alone as a pretty decent heist flick, even if the frayed plot strands never quite tied together in the end. I still don’t understand the almost universal disdain for the middle child of the trilogy, other than to chalk it up to the inevitable backlash that success elicits or a general disdain for a group of actors who never appeared to be earning their paychecks. Perhaps, the casual back-and-forth was a little too casual, or the constant metafictional tongue-in-cheek humor of Twelve began to ulcerate the linings of some mouths. I dunno. For me, it was a beautifully shot film that took great advantage of its European settings, and I think you’d be hard pressed to find a flick as stylishly laid back and as effortlessly clever as Twelve.

Still, despite the relative box-office success of Twelve ($360 million worldwide), its reception by both audiences and critics was mostly lukewarm (hardening into outright contempt with time), which is part of the reason (other than the obvious financial one) that Soderbergh and Clooney decided to make a third installment — to win back audiences who were put off by the second film and give themselves a chance to end the trilogy on a high note. And, to a degree they succeeded, at least with audiences who need the blunt satisfaction of an overblown heists with a huge payoff in the end — “The A-Team” and George Peppard has spoiled the many of you who can’t abide by anything less than a plan coming together. Unfortunately, it comes at the expense of the brilliant interplay and in-jokes between the cast members that dominated Twelve — the easygoing camaraderie has been sacrificed to some extent in favor of gadgets, disguises, and props that any chump could’ve manipulated — why bother putting three of Hollywood’s leading men in a film if all they are going to do is wear masks, push buttons, and fret over blueprints? Soderbergh overshoots his mark and again fails to strike an appropriate balance between the enjoyable self-indulgent improvisational riffing and the flick’s broader heist appeal.

Which isn’t to suggest it’s not worthwhile escapist diversion — it’s slick, mostly entertaining, and — again — beautifully shot, though it’s a mystery to me why Soderbergh would want to waste his immense cinematography talents on something as tacky and gaudy as freakin’ Vegas; that goddamn city is a blight on the eye of society, and for a guy who can make Detroit look gorgeous, it’s a shame to see it all go to waste filming slot machines, tawdry hotel rooms, and Vegas exteriors chintzy enough to tickle your gag reflex. But Vegas and sensory overload is what the people want, and that’s what they get — Soderbergh’s super-saturated frames are damn near blinding to those of us who think that Vegas’ already opulent garishness blends together like a sidewalk caricature artist attempting to reproduce the works of Rothko. But man alive — the ’70s-inspired pan shots and the wide angles that gradually close in on an actor’s face are stunning — you rarely see a director experiment with camerawork in a mainstream film as much as Soderbergh does.

The script, by Brian Koppelman and David Levien (Rounders), is sleek and flimsy — in a game of rock, paper, Ocean’s plots, the paper is always going to win out — but there’s just enough meat upon which to hang the film’s running caper. Willie Banks (Al Pacino) is ruthless bastard who breaks the Sinatra handshake code and hornswaggles Reuben Tishkoff (Elliott Gould) out of his share of a casino project, which provokes a myocardial infarction, leaving Reuben half-dead and catatonic — reason enough for Danny (Clooney) to get the gang back together to pull off a revenge job. The con? To ensure that Banks’ casino sinks on opening night, which entails all sorts of feats — large and small — most of which, of course, “can’t be done.”

The heist unspools leisurely — there is only one to fill up the entire 100-minute run-time — and a great deal of the movie revolves around troubleshooting the many chinks in the plan, which eventually requires that they enroll Terry Benedict (Andy Garcia) to help them finance it. The supporting cast, but for Julia Roberts, are all back, blithely playing their bit parts to their usual perfection, though I found it strange that the one person unable to rise above the material was Pacino, whose ham-fisted hoo-hahness has all but swallowed him alive — he’s the one drag on the whole production, an old-fashioned yeller in the midst of so much genial coolness.

The subplots are minimal, though the best involves Virgil (Casey Affleck) working in a dice factory in Mexico and, by appealing to the namesake of a tequila brand, inciting a worker revolt in an effort to increase wages by $3 a week (or a five percent raise). One of the more ludicrous plot strands involves Linus’ (Matt Damon) effort to seduce Banks’ assistant (Ellen Barkin), which unfolds like a bad Looney Tunes short — I almost expected Barkin’s cheeks to explode and have her exclaim, “Wow, what a man!” But then again, Damon has always seemed an anomaly in the Ocean’s films — only in the presence of Brad Pitt and George Clooney could Jason (freakin’) Bourne successfully pull of the role of the dweeb.

Like the other two films, Thirteen is largely a platform for the two masterminds, Ocean and Rusty (Pitt), to exchange their witty banter. The two have become increasingly interchangeable as the go-to-guy for cool one-liners — they are kind of the same character now, only wearing different suits. The self-referential humor is, for the most part, sadly absent but for an exchange in the closing scene — a wink and a nod to those of us who like self-deprecation, mild though it is. And unlike with the first two films, there’s not nearly as much misdirection — the audience is kept in the know for most of the movie, though I admit to a certain pleasure, once all the kinks have been ironed out, in watching them flawlessly execute their elaborately intricate scheme — it’s a helluva climax, it’s just too bad the foreplay wasn’t a bit more titillating. But then again, for most audiences whose lasting impression is that of the cinematic O-face, you’ll probably leave content and sleepy.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives with his wife in Ithaca, New York. You may email him, or leave a comment below.









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Comments

Dammit, Dustin! Does this mean I have to go out & rent Ocean's Twelve? I admit I didn't pay much attention when it was released, thinking there was no way it could be worth my while - I guess I was wrong, and now I have to see it.

Oh, hey, has son of Pajiba arrived yet?

Posted by: Kolby at June 8, 2007 2:59 PM

So am I the only person who can't even remember what Ocean's Eleven was about? other than the basics, I mean. I don't remember loving it, liking it, or giving a crap. Then again, it's probably been a while. Maybe I'll rent Eleven and Twelve (which I never bothered seeing) so I can see Thirteen and know I wasted money. Anyway. I'll love Twelve for the simple fact that it's the middle child and we have got to stick together.

Posted by: Rebekah at June 8, 2007 3:15 PM

"provokes a myocardial infarction"

I don't even know what that means, but it's still awesome. Dustin, you are a genius.

Posted by: the_wakeful at June 8, 2007 3:18 PM

It never gets tiresome seeing my hometown slagged. Never!

However, Dustin and Pajiba have just enough goodwill built up with me that I'll probably go ahead and watch Ocean's Twelve next time it's on. After all, it doesn't feature the horrors of Las Vegas! And, you know, I guess I'll watch for the heist film, too.

Posted by: bristlesage at June 8, 2007 3:22 PM

"Soderbergh's super-saturated frames are damn near blinding to those of us who think that Vegas' already opulent garishness blends together like a sidewalk caricature artist attempting to reproduce the works of Rothko."

That? Was awesome.

Although I am a huge fan of Pacino's early work, I sadly admit that he's been phoning it in for about a decade.

Posted by: Ginger at June 8, 2007 3:27 PM

It's a heart attack...

Posted by: Lucie at June 8, 2007 3:28 PM

Any particular reason for the Modest Mouse reference in the title (album: Good News for People Who Love Bad News), or did you just google "lyrics: ocean"?

Posted by: Dev at June 8, 2007 3:28 PM

Sorry, that was in repsonse to the_wakeful.

Posted by: Lucie at June 8, 2007 3:30 PM

Saw Ocean's 13 last night and I have to say I really liked it. It was the best thing I saw this summer (haven't seen Knocked Up yet however). In comparision to the other sequels on the board, this one was the most fun, funny and engaging.

I have to agree with Dustin, the Ellen Barkin thing was WAY over done... I'm surprised that they didn't do a sweeping shot to the inside of her ovaries bursting with estrogen. SOOOOOO poorly acted and Awkward turtle.

Posted by: Justin at June 8, 2007 3:40 PM

I loved Oceans 11, and I think that I decided to skip Oceans 12 based on the review on this site. As I recall, I think it was because Oceans 12 was too much of an inside joke. That being said, I have a really soft spot in my callous heart for Clooney, Pitt, and Cheadle especially when they are all dressed in Armani and Gucci suits (it's just classy dressing people). Yeah, a guy in a tailored suit with an unbuttoned collared shirt...Anyway, I'll probably see this movie because I love...heist movies...and well-dressed men whom are sardonic (seriously is it too much to ask a guy to arrive at a date in something else than some t-shirt and jeans combo? I'm not bitter, just getting annoyed.)

In some quasi-joyous news, Paris Hilton is back in jail!! I mean it's not the best news in the world. The best news would be the past 7 years of the Bush administration was just a cruel nightmare, and we really didn't invade Iraq.

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at June 8, 2007 4:05 PM

For me, and this is totally my own opinion, Oceans 12 was just plain boring. It took 4 tries for me to get through it. I fell asleep twice and lost interest and walked out of the room the third time. By the time I actually finished it, I wondered why I bothered. I just think that the first movie was THE movie and the rest are just exercises in making more money for the stars. But, hey I'm game to give the third one a try. If I don't fall asleep in the first 15 minutes then its already beat the second one.

Posted by: cmoody at June 8, 2007 4:13 PM

Ocean's 12, IMO, was too complicated. I didn't know who was double-crossing who, and it got too slick for it's own good. Catherine Zeta-Jones was pointless and Julia Roberts looked awful and her performance was nothing of note. I barely remember the first, but O12 left me wanting.

I wasn't planning on seeing this one anyway, because trilogies are all the same, IMO: the first is amazing, the second one blows, and the third is slightly better than the second.
The Ocean trilogy is one that relies heavily on style over substance, but I figure this one is simply too much. Plus, I too am tired of Pacino. If he screams his way through one more film, I'm done with him.

Dustin, that last paragraph...damn, you're good.

Posted by: Brie at June 8, 2007 4:13 PM

I wasn't going to see this, because I kind of hated TWELVE (c'mon, Julia Roberts playing herself? Really??)...but I enjoy those boys too much.

And I agree, I would never buy Matt Damon as a dweeb in any other context.

Posted by: bonnie at June 8, 2007 4:23 PM

I don't fully remember O12 in the way that usually prompts me to watch the movie again, but I do remember that I didn't like it so I'm not going to rush out and rent it. I have a hard time watching Julia Roberts in anything, and when the part of the movie came where spoiler! her character pretends to be Julia Roberts because they look so much alike...well, that's where I called shenanigans.

I'm leary of this one, but I'll probably rent it when it comes out for the George Clooney factor alone.

Posted by: katy at June 8, 2007 4:27 PM

I too love the sight of men in lovely suits, if only because it is such a rare sight these days. Love my hubby, but the only time I see him in a suit is at weddings and funerals and I'm running out of friends and family!

and Cheadle in anything makes a girl wanna drool. add an accent AND a suit... and well, I just need some alone time, thanks.

Posted by: Stella at June 8, 2007 5:03 PM

Dustin, you actually liked Oceans 12? I thought it was horrible. Incredibly slow and overly convoluted, and just unfulfilling. But then again, I liked Alien vs. Predator, so my judgement is a bit skewed.

Posted by: Manny at June 8, 2007 5:12 PM

Pass! Almost everyone involved in this movie annoys me.

Posted by: Candy at June 8, 2007 5:45 PM

I'm excited to see this movie, although I am sad that the great exchanges between danny and rusty aren't as prominent. I always kind of imagined both the sequel and this one to be largely based on the fact that george clooney called brad pitt and was like, "hey, i'm getting kinda bored, want to make another oceans as an excuse to hang out and play poker together for nine months"

Posted by: Natalie at June 8, 2007 6:26 PM

Thanks, Dustin; this one is a definite for this weekend. Call it heresy, but Clooney is the closest thing we have to Cary Grant. Would I miss a new Cary Grant movie if it somehow appeared? No, I would not.

Stella, long message for you back on the last Pajiba love.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 8, 2007 6:36 PM

Oh, almost forgot:

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Vesper . . . .

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 8, 2007 6:37 PM

I quite liked O11 & 12. You can't go wrong with smart/witty/pretty boys on a big screen.

And, Stella, I agree--Don Cheadle as a brit makes my swoon.

I am looking forward to 13 really for all the reasons described above. It's like porn, but for girls.

Posted by: wsapnin at June 8, 2007 7:24 PM

wsapnin: "like porn, but for girls"? I feel the need to point out that George Clooney and Matt Damon are both in the top 10 on my "If I Had To ..." list. Clive Owen, Daniel Craig, Chow Yun Fat . . . you know, IF, as a devout but appreciative heterosexual male, I had to.

Hmmm; afternoon comment diversion? But what to do about the greedy shithead bisexuals? (Was that Dennis Miller before he became an asshole who joked about bisexuals being greedy fuckers?) (Mmmmmmmmm, gin & vodka & lillet, mmmmmmmm.)

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 8, 2007 7:45 PM

Stella: Yes, Cheadle with a brit accent is just grand. He's one of those people who should just fake the accent all the time. It definitely becomes him very nicely.

Wsapnin: These movies are "porn for girls." And, let's be honest here, guys seem to get their girl candy a whole hell of a lot more than us gals. And really, what woman can resist the charm of a well-dressed, handsome man unpretentiously drinking a single malt scotch while exchanging witty banter with his fellow men?

Socalled: I agree with you on the point that Clooney is this century's Carey Grant and am happy that we at least have someone to take throne that Carey Grant left. Carey Grant was a class act, and if someone found some cutting floor snippets from his films, I would watch them because he was just that good.

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at June 8, 2007 8:32 PM

Isn't porn kind of porn for girls? Maybe you just need to know where to look.

I hated Ocean's 12 the first time I saw it but liked it a lot the second. I'm also a big fan of clever con artist/heist films, so I guess that's part of it.

Finally, after reading these comments, I think I know what I'm wearing to my next first date.

Posted by: bartap at June 8, 2007 8:37 PM

So I'll seee this for 3 reasons:
1: George Clooney (which I know doesn't exactly distinguish me from any other heterosexual female on the plant but hey, there's just no argument there.
2: I like convoluted plots.
3: No Julia Roberts. The woman ruined 12 for me by her mere presence.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 8, 2007 8:39 PM

"you'd be hard pressed to find a flick as stylishly laid back and as effortlessly clever as Twelve"

You said it all right there - I enjoyed it greatly, too.

"only in the presence of Brad Pitt and George Clooney could Jason (freakin') Bourne successfully pull of the role of the dweeb"

Ditto, again! You read my mind...

Posted by: mfg at June 8, 2007 8:40 PM

I always kind of imagined both the sequel and this one to be largely based on the fact that george clooney called brad pitt and was like, "hey, i'm getting kinda bored, want to make another oceans as an excuse to hang out and play poker together for nine months"

I'm with you, Natalie, I'm with you!

Posted by: bloodsugar at June 8, 2007 9:19 PM

Bartap: The thing about porn is it really isn't anywhere as sexy as talking to a guy who is witty as hell and dressed like he just came from cocktail hour with his mates circa 1963. Remember, girls, while they like to look at nice things, really appreciate it when the interior matches the exterior. Also, a reason why I could never think a guy is sexy based only his looks. Plus, "porn for girls" generally for me means watching Pride and Prejudice (all versions: A&E, Olivier, Knightley) or any Clooney/Pitt/Bale/Mcgregor/Jeremy Northam fare.

So, I take it that you'll be wearing your tuxedo t-shirt out on your next date?

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at June 8, 2007 9:19 PM

Gigi; Mmm, Ewan Macgregor is also on the "If I Had To" list. Based on "Velvet Underground," I'd better stock up on weed and lube.

And not to be crass, but here we go: I'd watch two hours of Cary Grant reading the NY Times on the crapper, as long as he had his black-rimmed glasses and smoking jacket on.

Sorry, everyone, Mrs. socalled is working late on a weekend, and I'm squatting on the site.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 8, 2007 9:32 PM

Socalled: I was actually going to say exactly what you said about Carey Grant, but I hadn't had enough wine yet to type it. Good to know that I'm not alone in thinking this.

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at June 8, 2007 9:37 PM

Isn't Grant's name spelled "Cary," not "Carey?" I have a named that frequently gets mispelled and I get snippy about it, so I felt the need to defend.

Posted by: tinmo at June 8, 2007 9:56 PM

"a guy who can make Detroit look gorgeous..."

Ha! The only person that's ever done that is photographer Xavier Nuez. Unless you count some of the girls that I grew up there with...

But then again, I don't set foot there anymore.

Posted by: Rob at June 8, 2007 9:56 PM

Tinmo: God, I am so sorry about that. You are completely correct. It is Cary.

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at June 8, 2007 10:07 PM

I doubt I'll see this, but nice Modest Mouse reference.

Posted by: Brianne at June 8, 2007 10:23 PM

You can't go wrong with smart/witty/pretty boys on a big screen.

So true.

I liked the first two well enough, so I'll see this at some point. And then when a trilogy DVD set is released, I'm so there.

Posted by: Gabs at June 8, 2007 11:52 PM

"But what to do about the greedy shithead bisexuals?"

Watch your back...there are more of us than you think! Mwa-ha-ha-ha!

"Finally, after reading these comments, I think I know what I'm wearing to my next first date."

Do it, bartap! You wil Get The Girl.

"Ewan Macgregor is also on the "If I Had To" list. Based on "Velvet Underground," I'd better stock up on weed and lube."

Oh yeah. Ewan McGregor is finer than fine. What an underrated movie--it was like a hot guy buffet.

Posted by: Vi at June 9, 2007 12:17 AM

"Ewan Macgregor is also on the "If I Had To" list. Based on "Velvet Underground," I'd better stock up on weed and lube."

It's been a shitty day, it's hot as hell in my apartment, I can't sleep, and my damn internet hasn't been working, but this made me laugh my ass off. McGregor, Bale, Rhys-Meyers, and Izzard--even in those ugly outfits--yup, need a moment alone.

Oh, and porn but for girls? That's an interesting way of putting it. :) I guess it all depends on taste, eh?

I actually liked Ocean's 12 too--yeah, it dragged in parts, but there's something so damn cool and charming and witty about these movies that make me overlook the draggy parts. Vincent Cassell was also great in that one. I also liked the two seconds of Albert Finney. Oh, and Don Cheadle with an accent ups his hotness tenfold. It's insane.

Great review Dustin! I can't wait to see this one. And I know Al Pacino's been phoning it in for a whie, but eh. I think he's at the point where he can and pretty much get away with it.

Posted by: em at June 9, 2007 2:10 AM

Ocean's Twelve was amazing. I don't get the backlash, either. I liked it better than Eleven, even. It just seemed to finally be having fun.

Whatever. I think Chasing Liberty isn't half bad either, so what do I know?

Posted by: Ben at June 9, 2007 2:32 AM

OH NO NO NO NO Dustin.

I freakin loved Ocean's 13.(Saw it yesterday.)

The plot was easy to ctach on. Their one liners was funny as hell. I loved it better that 12 I say.

Posted by: Jean at June 9, 2007 6:28 AM

Wait, Pacino is the weak link? Damn, I wouldn't have called that.

Posted by: Deviant at June 9, 2007 7:08 AM

I like O12 in fact it gets better with age. I'll watch this one and hopefully Tony Montana won't make it unwatchable . I had a feeling he was a liiiiittle out of place with this crew.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 9, 2007 8:46 AM

I liked Oceans 11 ok when I watched it the first time, thought it was fun but forgetable. And then a friend talked me into renting it one night and the second viewing was a revelation. All the throw away lines and exposition scenes were masterful and hilarious. Oceans 12 was missing some of that, but I thought it was great, if somewhat messy. Oceans 13 was nice to watch, but it made me kind of sad. There are still some nice interactions between the characters, but it's just not as smart and sly as the first two. I found that i was laughing at totally different moments in the movie than the rest of the audience. And Al Pacino was a huge drag. I never felt the menace from him that Terry Benedict generated in the first two movies. But seriously, if you just kind of liked Oceans 11 - watch it again and pay more attention to the supporting caast. They are what make it art.

Posted by: Ro at June 9, 2007 9:04 AM

It's Velvet Goldmine, not Underground. Anyway, back to the Ocean'ses. Am I the only one here who loves seeing Casey Affleck in these movies? Maybe.

Posted by: msdalloway at June 9, 2007 12:56 PM

So I went to see this one, and it was pleasantly entertaining. It didn't have an intricate plot like Ocean's Twelve, which got to be a bit confusing at times. O-12 actually threw me some surprises, but O-13 was pretty predictable. It was a nice afternoon diversion, and I actually enjoyed this movie more than Knocked Up (which I know is sacrilegious, but I just didn't think that movie was funny at all- not half as good as 40-yo Virgin.)

Posted by: big red at June 9, 2007 1:02 PM

Is anyone else delighted that Julia Roberts is not in this one? I absolutely agree with the poster who ridiculed the "Ocean's 12" plot point of her character's resemblance to Julia Roberts -- what a lazy contrivance that was. Catherine Zeta-Jones' presence was welcome, but I felt she was largely wasted for purposes of "Oh, Danny had his love interest in the last one, so now we have create some symmetry with a love interest for Rusty." Bwuh. I'm not sure throwing Ellen Barkin and Al Pacino in there is moving toward the positive, but the film sounds really enjoyable.

Best outcome of "Ocean's 13"? Creating some credibility capital to allow something else like "Solaris" or "Good Night & Good Luck."

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 9, 2007 1:49 PM

I'm sorry, but I just have to join in on the topic of Don Cheadle's accent in these movies. Speaking as a Brit, I can assure you that on this side of the Atlantic, each time he opened his mouth - we all winced.

He's a brilliant actor (no question), but he can't do a Cockney accent. In fact, he was almost as bad as Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.

To be fair though, I would have no idea if Cox or Hopkins or Oldman manage authentic American accents.

As for the movies, well I loved the first, but found the second unfocused and a little too heavy on the in-jokes. I shall certainly be giving the third a try...

Posted by: SimonB at June 9, 2007 2:40 PM

"To be fair though, I would have no idea if Cox or Hopkins or Oldman manage authentic American accents."


Oh they don't, but it doesn't matter, they are THAT good as actors.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 9, 2007 5:10 PM

"porn for girls"? I don't think so. If they were actually having sex, or at least having a relationship or two with real women, then maybe. But with that many hot guys convening sweaty, cramped rooms, and all the colors and flashing lights...it's more like gay porn.

Dustin, please keep us informed about all the baby news that's fit to print. I love babies!

Posted by: Bianca Reagan at June 9, 2007 10:53 PM

I gotta say, I really enjoyed the first two. Not in an, "Oh, that's my favorite movie!" sort of way, but the aesthetics were perfect, the characters smooth but engaging and somehow relatable even though they were all Armani-wearing high-level thieves.

I loved the scenes showcasing the mastery of the separate characters, especially in the first because there was not really a cinematic guaranteeing their success, so there was plenty of tension. Matt Damon's character, for example, was believably fallible, especially in 11. This was lost a little in 12, but still present, I think b/c the addition of new team members, allows them to serve as wildcards. Watching Yen squeeze himself into that little box in the first film...And Cassel's gymnastics in the second were incredible.

So the plot was heavy. Okay. But you know, the plot in the first would have been a mediocre heist flick, with a different cast and different aesthetics. So for the second, it was just fun to ride along and see what they came up with next, and the only things that bothered me were the small handful of jarring details like the Julia Roberts subplot. But hey, as soon as it was over, I'd forgiven and forgotten, and was right back in the film.

I totally agree with all the folks comparing Clooney to Cary. And if you watch some of Grant's most fun films, like Charade and To Catch a Thief, they don't necessarily have seamless plots and certainly not objective believability.

I guess I see these films as being to the heist flicks of the sixties what Hot Fuzz is to the action police films of the eighties. Obviously, less comedic, but loving and somewhat cheeky postmodern reinterpretations that work because they are genuine heist films rather than straight parody. They succeed at giving new life to the stylish and slick predecessors, which is no small feat (and one at which others have patently failed, c.f. Down with Love).

Oh, and I love Tim Roth's american accent the best. In Reservoir Dogs, where he's rehearsing the bathroom story...."Moth-UHR Fuck-UHR!" Precious.

Posted by: Jen at June 10, 2007 9:28 AM

I gotta say, I really enjoyed the first two. Not in an, "Oh, that's my favorite movie!" sort of way, but the aesthetics were perfect, the characters smooth but engaging and somehow relatable even though they were all Armani-wearing high-level thieves.

I loved the scenes showcasing the mastery of the separate characters, especially in the first because there was not really a cinematic guaranteeing their success, so there was plenty of tension. Matt Damon's character, for example, was believably fallible, especially in 11. This was lost a little in 12, but still present, I think b/c the addition of new team members, allows them to serve as wildcards. Watching Yen squeeze himself into that little box in the first film...And Cassel's gymnastics in the second were incredible.

So the plot was heavy. Okay. But you know, the plot in the first would have been a mediocre heist flick, with a different cast and different aesthetics. So for the second, it was just fun to ride along and see what they came up with next, and the only things that bothered me were the small handful of jarring details like the Julia Roberts subplot. But hey, as soon as it was over, I'd forgiven and forgotten, and was right back in the film.

I totally agree with all the folks comparing Clooney to Cary. And if you watch some of Grant's most fun films, like Charade and To Catch a Thief, they don't necessarily have seamless plots and certainly not objective believability.

I guess I see these films as being to the heist flicks of the sixties what Hot Fuzz is to the action police films of the eighties. Obviously, less comedic, but loving and somewhat cheeky postmodern reinterpretations that work because they are genuine heist films rather than straight parody. They succeed at giving new life to the stylish and slick predecessors, which is no small feat (and one at which others have patently failed, c.f. Down with Love).

Oh, and I love Tim Roth's american accent the best. In Reservoir Dogs, where he's rehearsing the bathroom story...."Moth-UHR Fuck-UHR!" Precious.

Posted by: Jen at June 10, 2007 9:29 AM

Ok. The only thing about "12" that is worth watching are the interior shots of Dampkring (the orange-tinted scenes). The greatest coffeeshop in all the land.
If you ever go to Amsterdam make sure you go here first.
I have been visiting since '99, and am happy to say, that they have embraced their notoriety with an ease that only the Dutch can.
A few pics, a few signs, and they called it a day. Thankfully no cardboard cut-outs where you can add your face next to Brad and George...
The "Julia Roberts look-a-like" plot just plain sucked ass.

Posted by: Sparker at June 10, 2007 3:28 PM

Just got back from seeing '13'

It was pretty bad. The plot was way too slick - I didn't really feel the energy or conflict. I had no stake in the outcome.

The first half hour was *the worst* - nothing but 30 min of explaining the plan. :yawn: So a lot of goodwill was lost up front.

Posted by: Leaf at June 10, 2007 11:48 PM

I love how O13 had a lot of winks to O12... a nice little FU to the folks who dissed it. (yes, that means you!). A few people in my group were lost when us )12 fans were laughing and I just had to smirk... "you had to see 12"...

Posted by: ciji at June 11, 2007 12:41 AM

Just saw "Thirteen" today and really enjoyed it -- crisp, sustained, comical with more than a few in-jokes. That this one added new characters -- played by some household names and familiar faces -- is welcome in this ear of sequals with the same, old faces (and, in many cases, stale story lines). One problem I have with this installment of (what we can now safely call) the Ocean's Franchise, is, like its two predecessors, it glorifies Las Vegas. Folks, let me assure you, that town is an armpit -- a big blob of architectural cartoon scenes, faux everything and a shamless, barefaced mission to get you to empty your pockets. Anybody thinking of visiting there, don't waste your time or money!

Posted by: JS at June 11, 2007 2:00 AM

"...it glorifies Las Vegas. Folks, let me assure you, that town is an armpit -- a big blob of architectural cartoon scenes, faux everything and a shamless, barefaced mission to get you to empty your pockets. Anybody thinking of visiting there, don't waste your time or money!....."

JS: I think it's more like they're glorifying a Vegas that once was. The one were the mob and the rat-pack used to hang around in. Which in itself was never the Vegas that the average schmoe experienced.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 11, 2007 7:50 AM

I will be renting 12, and seeing 13 as soon as possible. Not necessarily based on any certain review, but merely because I was subjected to the torture of Last Holiday this weekend with my mother while waiting for a particularly large tattoo to heal.
Truth: I would rather have sat in that chair for another two hours than watch sugary "live life today" movie.

Posted by: nexus 6 at June 11, 2007 11:14 AM

Seeing this tomorrow! Very excited!

Going back to Don Cheadle's accent: I winced every time he opened his mouth too. I hate hate hate the awful forced Cockney. And I ain't British.

Posted by: lar at June 12, 2007 10:33 PM

While I'll give 13 a try, I have to disagree completely with Dustin on 12. Terrible movie. In most movies with complex plots and mysteries, nothing makes sense until the big conclusion. With 12, nothing made sense AFTER the big conclusion. Instead of tying up loose ends, they frayed them to death. No reasonable motive could be fathomed for so many actions once you had all of the pieces.

And, yes, it was TOO tongue and cheeky. But the real weakness wasn't that they overplayed that card, but that the character chemistry just wasn't carried over from 11 and their efforts to make it so ended up feeling too contrived.

I'm sorry to hear that they did not recapture the character rappoire from 11, but apology movies generally are better than what they are apologizing for, so one more swim in the ocean may be in order!

Posted by: altan at June 15, 2007 2:56 PM


















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