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Marie Antoinette / Jeremy C. Fox

Film Reviews | October 21, 2006 | Comments (74)


[Author’s note: Because I love Pajiba readers the way normal people love a big basket full of calico kitties, the following review has been expanded beyond its original, admittedly hastily written form. Here, folks, eat some cake.]

Costume dramas exist in part to remind us that we really aren’t so different from our ancestors, that regardless of changes in technology or society, the essential human concerns — sex, money, death, love, hate, revenge, duty, etc. — remain the same. The typical example of the genre — from the “Masterpiece Theatre” or Merchant-Ivory schools of taxidermy — does this by studiously and often tediously recreating the details of a classic novel or historical event, emphasizing the very aspects of the past that make it difficult for modern audiences to relate to the characters. Certainly, this method has its merits; for those who have the patience, historical accuracy can enrich understanding and empathy for a character’s plight. But how can you interest a young, modern audience with a short attention span; how can you persuade them that a historical film could be relevant to their lives, and maybe even fun? Leave it to Hollywood’s current poet of adolescent anomie, Sofia Coppola.

Coppola’s Marie Antoinette takes the widely reviled queen and recasts her as a misunderstood poor-little-rich-girl — if the movie had been made in the 1980s (and between the frequent use of New Wave tracks and the quick-cut montages of luxury goods, it often feels as if it were), it would be a total Molly Ringwald role. Married off in her mid-teens to secure an alliance between the Hapsburgs and the Bourbons, young Antoine (Kirsten Dunst) is forced to leave family, friends, and even her beloved pug behind. With no allies but many potential enemies, she’s thrust into the pomp and hypocrisy of the French court, where she’ll have no power or even security until she produces an heir for the dauphin, timid Louis-Auguste, the future Louis XVI (Jason Schwartzman, who is Coppola’s cousin).

The only problem is that Louis is a disaster in the sack. Night after night, the dauphine tries to coax him into lovemaking, only to be rebuffed with claims of exhaustion or uncomfortable titters as her young husband finds himself becoming aroused. It’s no help that they are under constant scrutiny — joined by dozens of nobles in both the dining room and the bedchamber, observed like subjects in a psychological experiment. With no chance for private conversation, they remain virtual strangers. And as their very public marriage remains very publicly unconsummated, she becomes the subject of derisive whispering at Versailles, and each new letter from her mother, Empress Maria Theresa (Marianne Faithfull), reminds her that it is her duty to bear her husband an heir, whether he likes it or not.

With no other outlet for her growing frustrations, Marie Antoinette does what any modern girl would do — she indulges in shopping and rich desserts. She surrounds herself with frivolous girlfriends, and they dress themselves in the most outlandish fashions and wigs that a late Rococo couturier can provide (pretty outlandish). Together, they buy clothes, eat sweets, and drink champagne, and for a while she’s able to forget all the terrible things being said about her. But the problems that beset her upon her marriage to Louis will dog her for the rest of her short life: Though she does eventually produce an heir, she remains widely disliked, a situation only exacerbated by her naiveté about politics and her increasingly spendthrift ways.

Coppola tells the story through color and texture as much as more traditional narrative means, allowing the sumptuous fabrics, furnishings, and confections to convey both the differences between the Austrian and French courts and our heroine’s growing hedonism as she succumbs to any temptation that allows a momentary sense of escape. When Coppola does resort to dialogue, the multinational cast all speak in their own natural voices and accents, and there’s a marked contrast between Dunst’s slangy Americanness and the stiff formality of representatives of the French court (particularly Judy Davis as the Comtesse de Noailles, the desiccated, delightfully nasty mistress of the house, responsible for enforcing the court’s elaborate and nonsensical protocol).

Coppola means her young American audience to see Marie Antoinette as being just like them, as little at home in this world as any modern person would be, as uncomfortable in her role as dauphine and, later, queen, as she is in her constricting bodices and ludicrously broad panniers. She wants us to judge Marie Antoinette not by the standards and concerns of her subjects, but by those of 21st-century America — sure, she’s vapid, spoiled, and self-indulgent, but she’s more recognizably human than any of the girls on “Laguna Beach” or “My Super Sweet 16.” I’ve never been a big Kirsten Dunst booster, but there’s something ineffably right about her here; her broad, American features and lack of affect are a perfect fit for Coppola’s idea of the character. She’s really all wrong for Marie Antoinette the actual historical figure, but for this Marie Antoinette, she couldn’t be more right.

While Coppola modernizes the feel of the material, much of the screenplay is as historically sound as anything you’d find on the History Channel, incorporating many events and dialogue faithfully. Coppola herself scripted the film, working from Antonia Fraser’s Marie Antoinette: The Journey, with input from French historian Evelyne Lever, author of Marie Antoinette: The Last Queen of France. Coppola’s view of Marie Antoinette is debatable — many historians continue to take a hard line against her frivolity and lack of real understanding of the French people — but it’s a convincing portrait of a person in distress, thrown into a situation she can’t control and can never escape.

Jeremy C. Fox is a founding critic of Pajiba and a member of the Online Film Critics Society.You may email him at jeremycfox[at]gmail.com.

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Comments

Wow, I might actually see this now. I was expecting a much harsher review.

Posted by: Sarah B at October 21, 2006 8:42 PM

I'll see anything that Jason Schwartzman agrees to act in.

Posted by: Diana at October 21, 2006 9:07 PM

I actually enjoyed this movie a lot. I thought it was well made, and found Dunst tolerable for once.

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at October 21, 2006 9:09 PM

It looks so opulent and extravagant...and awesome! I was a little unsure on it, but I will probably see it now that it's received pretty good reviews.

Posted by: electricdaisy at October 21, 2006 9:10 PM

Kudos on the Gang of Four reference!

Posted by: sansho1 at October 21, 2006 9:28 PM

Seen it and looooooved it. I was surprised by how well the New Wave music worked with the movie; it wasn't distracting at all.

Posted by: Claire at October 22, 2006 12:06 AM

Jeremy, I have to say that I'm a bit confused as to what your opinion of the movie is. If you liked it, your sentiment comes across as halfhearted. So was it great, fantastic, meh, so-so, what? I'm surprised, because usually it's so clear to me what your opinion of the film is. This time, not so much.

Posted by: boobaloob at October 22, 2006 12:56 AM

wait where is the actual review? alls i got was a summary and some mild statements-give it to me! odd pacing, music in place of dialogue, damning of the i-want-candy sequence, cmon!

Posted by: J.M. at October 22, 2006 1:08 AM

I was pleasently suprised by this one. I went in with fairly low expectations but was thoroughly entertained for the entire 2 hours. The music wasn't distracting at all, and the natural speaking voices made you listen to the dialogue rather than try to tell whether or not they were pulling off the accents well... So I guess Sophia called that one right.

It wasn't fantastic or anything, but it was enjoyable and worth the price of admission.

Posted by: Nat at October 22, 2006 1:31 AM

I too expected a harsher review...and I'm curious to hear where her infamous line 'Let them eat petit fours' fits in, or if it's there at all.
Still, I don't know if I'll go see it in the theater. I'll add it to my Netflix.

Posted by: zadzi at October 22, 2006 3:21 AM

This didn't feel like a review so much as just a synopsis of what the movie was about.

Posted by: Molly at October 22, 2006 4:26 AM

New Wave...do you mean New Order?

Posted by: SV at October 22, 2006 9:01 AM

Kiki Snaggletooth Monkey-Dunst lacks chops and is a huge turn-off in her own vapid right, but I think I have to see this for the visuals alone. I can't help it, I'm a sucker for 18C on film (I study it for a living), and hearing from Jeremy that there was a French historian on board gives me hope.

Damn you, Sophia C. Your pungent chicness hits us deep up the nostrils--you fill your movies with icons of your own hipness to make sure *we* know just how hip you are--but you made a film I can't resist, it's in my freaking DNA. 'Sides, I couldn't help liking LiT despite it all.

Visuals--le purr. And won't Schwartzman cancel out La Dunst just a bit, anyway?

Posted by: ranylt at October 22, 2006 12:07 PM

I'm with Diana on this one. Dunst or no Dunst.

Posted by: Ashley at October 22, 2006 12:19 PM

I was dying to read the Pajiba review for this movie and must admit that I'm disappointed. If I were a teacher and one of my students wrote this, the paper'd be covered in red pen: "Where's the analysis?" "I know what *happened* in the movie, but you need to tell me something I haven't thought about." This is a plot summary, frankly. This movie has been widely-discussed and criticized and I am bummed to not have the always-intelligent, incisive Pajiba perspective.

S. Coppola grates on my nerves: I find her movies to be all mood with zero substance. I can't remember one thing about Virgin Suicides or Lost in Translation, and I saw both of them in the theatre.

Posted by: Samantha T at October 22, 2006 12:50 PM

Not your best review I'm afraid, Jeremy. That's ok, we all have our off-days. I saw this film on its opening night, and had planned to run out of the theater cursing Sophia Coppola ten minutes into the feature. However, I was pleasantly suprised by the production values of what was marketed to look like Menudo: The French Years. Kirsten Dunst looked and played the part of the queen, the illusion broken only when dialouge necessitated her cheese-grater voice. I was floored by Jason Schwartzman's fabulously understated and well-researched turn as the awkward teen Dauphin. With the exception of a few hideous anachronisms (see red converse sneakers)the film was a credit to the beautiful palace in which it was filmed.

Posted by: Aratweth at October 22, 2006 1:09 PM

I saw this movie and loved three things about it: the shoes, the dresses, and the dogs. Oh, and Jason Schwartzman was unexpectedly good. I think these things overshadowed Kirsten dunst's "cheese grater" voice. btw... Who was wearing red converse???

Posted by: Wowzie! at October 22, 2006 2:40 PM

There is a scene where she is running down a hallway,and we get a glimpse of sneakers as she passes. Also, in the shoe montage, as slippers are being pulled from the shelf, right before they cut to the next shot, ther is a superquick glance at what I'm pretty sure is a pair of nikes at the far end of the row behind some other shoes. Very irritating for a costume design major, I can tell you.

Posted by: Aratweth at October 22, 2006 3:41 PM

This review is a major disappointment, especially after what I thought was a below average review of The Grudge 2. You have written some really good reviews in the past (Dirty Love comes to mind), but this seems like you just cut and pasted from the press kit. Maybe it was just an off day, but I have to wonder if Jeramy is even trying.

Posted by: A at October 22, 2006 3:50 PM

what are you saying?

Posted by: lucy at October 22, 2006 5:40 PM

New Wave is a music genre, I guess. New Order is a band. Both, I think, are in the film.

Posted by: annex at October 22, 2006 6:03 PM

i only saw blue converse, powder blue.

Posted by: adrianne at October 22, 2006 6:16 PM

It is so irritating when people bring in terms like "snaggletooth" to Pajiba. This isn't one of those lame celebrity blogs where groups of self-congratulating idiots work themselves into hate frenzies over certain celebs and come up with lame names like "snaggletooth" which they can all adopt in bandwagon fashion. Kirsten Dunst isn't the greatest actress in the world, but she isn't horrible, either. Who cares if she hasn't had cosmetic dentistry to give her that annoyingly uniform "LA smile". I'm sure she is a hell of a lot more attractive than most of you Perez Hilton-addicted losers.

Posted by: Whatever... at October 22, 2006 6:49 PM

Jeremy, what's the deal? Your usual verbosity is sorely absent from this review! I was expecting something much more in depth. Understanding that you do have other things to do with your time of course.

Posted by: Chris at October 22, 2006 7:04 PM

This movie is horrible. Everyone I went with hated it. Where is the plot? People were walking out the packed theater. We went in with high hopes for Schwartzman, but walked away disappointed and pissed that we spent 10 bucks to be bored.

Posted by: Soma at October 22, 2006 8:56 PM

I can honestly say that I liked it. The music was at times god-awful and totally removed the viewer from the action, but it wasn't a poor movie. Especially once the revolution begins - the end was incredibly powerful.
But come on, Sofia - Champagne had not been invented yet!

Posted by: martina at October 22, 2006 11:03 PM

My friend noticed that all the seam lines in people's dresses and coats didn't pattern match properly... it makes historical costuming nuts like she and I grit out teeth...

Posted by: 'Drea at October 22, 2006 11:55 PM

champagne had been invented just not the particular flutes they used...

Posted by: blah at October 23, 2006 3:19 AM

Interesting piece of trivia concerning champagne... There is a popular theory that our modern day champagne flutes are based on an original design that was inspired by the shape of Marie Antionette's breasts. She popularized the drink, and the flutes were originally made as a novelty in her honor. However, if my breasts were the shape of champagne flutes, I don't know how thrilled I would be...

Posted by: Aratweth at October 23, 2006 4:20 AM

Not the champagne flute. According to legend the champagne saucer, seen here in a random link I found, was modeled on her breasts.

http://www.crystalandcandleshop.com/images/glass/TGMG/milano/577%20Champange%20Saucer.jpg

Look at it sideways, you can almost see it...

Posted by: No, thanks at October 23, 2006 4:38 AM

"Perez Hilton-addicted losers"

Actually I think learned that nugget off Go Fug Yourself--I am a loser, yes (you got me pegged!) but I'm afraid I'm a satire-addicted loser, if anything.

Posted by: ranylt at October 23, 2006 9:34 AM

My apologies, champagne saucer is correct. I'm more of a brandy snifter girl myself, so I have limited champagne experience. Good example photo, btw.

Posted by: Aratweth at October 23, 2006 9:57 AM

"It is so irritating when people bring in terms like "snaggletooth" to Pajiba."

Agreed. What's with all the hate for Kirsten Dunst? I've never seen her be anything but gracious and self-deprecating in interviews and she has done a terrific job in some of her roles. There are so many more appropriate targets for vitriol. She's taken some risks and hasn't conformed her look to Hollywood perfection - and God love her for it. She also has a far longer and, I'd argue, more impressive track record than the likes of Jason Schwartzman. Sure, he's been in one fantastic movie, but Dunst has been working it since Interview with the Vampire.

Posted by: Samantha T at October 23, 2006 10:05 AM

"There are so many more appropriate targets for vitriol."

Overall, absolutely. My bile was raised in this particular instance because she was cast in this particular movie. I think it could have been so much better with an actor of substance. This film project meant a lot to me, personally, hence a very personal reaction.

(Unless SC was taking a page from the Kubrick school of casting, in which case perhaps all will not be lost.)

Posted by: ranylt at October 23, 2006 10:15 AM

This film was eminently pointless. I thought I'd enjoy it's frivolity but I left feeling empty and conned by a big nothing of a movie. The soundtrack is staggering and works well, but after, lavish costumes, an underwritten affair, tawdry comedy sequences that bring to mind Coppolla's love of bad jokes (Bill Murray's low Japanese shower anyone?) a shot with converse *fucking* all stars in it, and lots of fluff SC tried to make us care about the demise of a character she'd kept purely superficial. As Dunst looks doelefully out of her carriage before her decapitation we're supposed to give a shit. We don't. It's a well worn observation but Coppolla tries to have her cake and eat it with this one. Disappointing and hacky...

Posted by: Jimfam at October 23, 2006 10:44 AM

This was not a review. I have read more intelligent and thought-provoking critiques of this movie from much lesser sources. What a disappointment.

Posted by: Christine at October 23, 2006 11:16 AM

I, too, thought this review seemed a bit unfinished. I actually read the Washington Post review of this movie (which I hardly ever do) and it was twice as long and contained deeper analysis than the Pajiba review (which it hardly ever does). Of course I'm not going to hold it against either Jeremy or Pajiba; instead I'm going to assume that maybe it accidentally got posted in an incomplete form and I will check back later in the week to see if Jeremy reposts it.

Posted by: Kelly at October 23, 2006 12:37 PM

I realize this has been said before, but for real, this "review" was like something you read on a Netflix envelope--at the end of it, I found myself looking for the rating and run-time.
The thing is, there is a lot you could talk about with this film. Can you try again (I'm serious)? I usually really enjoy reading what you have to say.

Posted by: CSB at October 23, 2006 12:38 PM

I'm still not sure I felt about this movie, and part of my incredulity comes from the ending. It seemed to me that the plot--which was, admittedly wrapping up--just stopped, like it still had steam but had run out of track. I was expecting it to continue and it ended halfway through a note. It's uncanny how similarly I felt at the end of this review. I love your work, Jeremy, but I have to say... could you toss us a little cake?

Posted by: Doomcrayon at October 23, 2006 1:45 PM

Is it possible that Pajiba has been affected by the philosophy over at The Believer in which critics are asked to never write anything nasty about the books they review so when they review a book and hate it, they just provide a plot synopsis or as my hero Nick Hornby does, just write "Today I read Marie Antionette" as the entire review leaving us to understand not to bother. (Sorry about the Joycean sentence).

Posted by: Siobhan at October 23, 2006 2:00 PM

I've seen it. I liked it. But I heart everyone that made the movie. I still have a few complaints. Like why is Sofia so afraid to use Dialogue? But I do realize this is HER art or whatever. It turned out the way she planned it. And she is Brilliant. And I, too, was expecting a much harsher review.

Posted by: Lara Durden at October 23, 2006 6:44 PM

"Like why is Sofia so afraid to use Dialogue?"

I would be, too, after the Godfather III "incident."

Posted by: Samantha T at October 24, 2006 7:14 AM

Definitely a better review this time, but....(you knew that was coming, right? ;)).

Let me get this straight. Francis Ford Coppola is a highly-respected person in the film industry. Sofia Coppola is Francis Ford Coppola's daughter. Jason Schwartzman is Sofia Coppola's cousin. She directed a movie which portrays in a sympathetic light a French aristocrat who was ultimately killed by revolutionaries, all of whom were against the aristocracy, largely because it was entirely hereditary.

I'm not trying to have any conspiracy theories here (though, yes, I can be prone to them), but is it any surprise that somebody who, though she may have some (some) talent, has everything that she has because of her last name finds Marie A. a stylish iconoclast rather than a perpetrator of a system that elevated the few at the expense of the many? I fully admit to having a huge, huge chip on my shoulder about these things, but have these people no damn shame? I think what rankles so many people about this movie is that some of us identify with the idle rich and some of us just don't (you can imagine which category I'm in). It is clear which camp SC falls into. It takes an enormous amount of cultural and historical sensitivity to get the latter to identify or empathize with somebody like Marie A. - Sofia C. ain't got it.

For those who wish to flame and say "You're just jealous", by all means, go right ahead. You'd be right. I am jealous of people who have a leg up from birth. It's in my genes.

Posted by: Samantha T at October 24, 2006 7:31 AM

"I've never been a big Kirsten Dunst booster, but there's something ineffably right about her here; her broad, American features and lack of affect are a perfect fit for Coppola's idea of the character. She's really all wrong for Marie Antoinette the actual historical figure, but for this Marie Antoinette, she couldn't be more right."

Thanks, Jeremy--Kubrick school of casting it is, I guess. I hope I'm as receptive to KD as you are once I get around to seeing this.

Posted by: ranylt at October 24, 2006 8:02 AM

I just knew you could do it Jeremy. I just knew it!

Posted by: The Cute Kid Temporarily Disappointed by His Big Brother Role Model at October 24, 2006 1:21 PM

I love this review. I saw this and thought it was great, particularly for its nearly solid historical accuracy (it only got a couple of things wrong, which I thought was amazing). But I've been really disappointed in the reviews for it, which seem to say it's bad just for the sake of saying it's bad. I'm glad to see some people aren't just verbalizing the French reaction at Cannes.

Posted by: Sarah at October 24, 2006 1:29 PM

So, after being disappointed by this lackluster review (I still love you, Pajiba!), I went ahead and saw the movie, and I find all these comments to be relatively accurate-at least the negative ones. It's true that Mademoiselle Coppola has lost her edge as time progresses; The Virgin Suicides was good, Lost in Translation was all right (and in the end came off as an attempt for Coppola to come off with some so-called 'indie-cred' (because really, we know there isn't a kareoke machine in the world that has "What's So Funny 'Bout (Peace Love and Undestanding)" on it )), but this...I'm at a loss for words. After this was supposed to be Coppola's tour-de-force, the film she always wanted to make, the result comes off as either idiotic or half-assed. The dialogue was poorly costructed, the historical accuracies seem flippant, Kirsten Dunst hardly carried herself well, and the soundrack-no matter how much love I have for the songs-was annoying. There was a point in the film, where the cast goes to a masquerade ball, and the modern music is played in the backround, and my friend sitting next to me says "Oooooh, I get it, Sophia. It's like going to the Factory in the 60s. You're so clever." It got to the point where I was just laughing at this poor woman. And Jason Schwartzman-for all his adorable demeanor, was so thrown away at times that he couldn't save the film at all.

The shoe montage (all sneakers aside) was the only appealing thing in the movie-and I must admit, that was pretty damned appealing. I wonder if the costumes are going on Ebay?

Posted by: Meg at October 24, 2006 3:48 PM

My initial reaction to this movie was that it had a very boring/nonexistent plot and that Kirsten Dunst was rather mis-cast. I think I was expecting to see something ripped straight from the History Channel, with safe accompaining classical soundtrack and all. I was surprised how mild your review was, and the more I think about it, it's a fairer assesment of the movie than my initial reaction. Like you said, Coppola did a good job of giving an old story modern appeal, yet still retaining its factual accuracy. Usually it doesn't happen like this, but I actually like the movie better after reading your review.

Posted by: Allison at October 24, 2006 4:40 PM

While I liked the escapism of the film I really couldn't get my head around the logic of the script. I didn't really mind the casting (even though I'm not a fan of KD) and I finally got over the lack of French accents when I realized I'd probably be more annoyed by the fake ones, a la Barrymore. Even the modern music, which sometimes works (see Plunkett and Macleane) but most of the time doesn't (see A Knight's Tail) didn't grate on my nerves, because most of the time it worked. Except the "I Want Candy" montage, which had me cringing in my seat with acute embarrassment for whoever had to edit said sequence. What left me dry was the actual script. The monotony and repetition of simple plot points. How many times do I have to scream, "I get it! She parties a lot, let's move on." And because of the dilly dallying SC does during the majority of the film, she leaves herself little room to create a real ending for the film. One she wasn't afraid to delve into due to her inadequacies as a writer. In other words, she copped out.

Posted by: uno at October 25, 2006 9:19 AM

i went to see marie antoinette on sunday and it sucked bigtime. i have no regard for kirsten dunst, never did, and now never will. the camera work was halfass, and the use of music (tho i adore bowwowwow) was infact baz luhrmann schtick. sofia lost any credit she earned from the tokyo flick. thank god for the versialles locale. i wish i had dozed-off. two thumbs down.

Posted by: A.J. at October 25, 2006 11:20 AM

Oh, let's not get too carried away, there were a couple of pretty impressive historical errors. If nothing else, Austria is, and always has been, Catholic. Why did Coppolla make Marie confused by the sign of the Cross? That made no sense. Admittedly this probably only annoys prim Central European History majors, but I think I speak for us both when I say we're pissed.

Posted by: Lucas Goldstein at October 25, 2006 10:06 PM

"Admittedly this probably only annoys prim Central European History majors, but I think I speak for us both when I say we're pissed."

Lucas, this comment is hilarious. I get very irritated when people are historically irresponsible, as well. I understand that to be entirely authentic, one would have to have all of the actors lose half their teeth and everything, but there are certain unjustified liberties that Hollywood takes with historical movies.

Posted by: Samantha T at October 26, 2006 7:16 AM

So much for the professional historian on set.

*throws up hands in despair and walks away*

Posted by: ranylt at October 26, 2006 7:36 AM

Saw this last night and enjoyed it very much. I thought I was going to be annoyed by the music, but I thought it worked well in conveying the youthfulness and emotions of its heroine. And I welcome any opportunity to hear the underappreciated Adam Ant!

Posted by: mla at October 26, 2006 1:42 PM

I'm looking forward to this, personally. What I've seen of the trailers reminds of of "Plunkett and Macleane" more than anything, which was another oddball 18th-century story/20th-century music pairing.

Marie Antoinette never said "Let them eat cake," by the way. The word she used was "brioche," which was a superior, white-flour kind of bread and the only kind of bread she would have been familiar with, and some think that the remark was meant kindly, rather than the callousness that has been attributed to her throughout history. "Cake" is a mistranslation. Unfortunately, I forget where I got this information. :)

Posted by: Noelegy at October 26, 2006 3:24 PM

I went in with the expectation of plotless eye-candy, so I can't say I was disappointed. I like eye-candy, actually, so in that regard I was even pleased. My beefs with the film are as follows:

First, there was no sense of time present; Coppola had to rely on artificial maneuvers like the placement/replacement of the family portrait (one baby lighter the second time) to move us ahead. MA married the Dauphin when she was 14 or 15; she must have been 34 or thereabouts when they were forced back to Paris. I had NO sense from this movie that 20 years had passed, that any of the people had aged more than a couple weeks. Babies showed up and re-appeared as toddlers here and there, but on the whole, this looks like Marie's account of what happened over Spring Break, not of half a lifetime.

Second, MA's story is just too damn fascinating to gloss over the way Coppola did. Historically accurate? Frankly, given the scant amount of ground she even bothered to cover, she'd better be! Too many plotlines and angles were hinted at - Du Barry, Fersen, etc. - without being explored. On the other hand, maybe she MEANT it as a teaser - a noble attempt at driving library traffic (or at least, InfoPlease and WikiPedia hits). Doubtful, but if so, I guess you got me.

Finally, althought I respect what Coppola was trying to do - make historical figures relevant and accessible to their modern counterparts - I think she took the easy way out with music. In more capable hands, it might have been an interesting, even daring, move - in Coppola's, it seems like a shortcut. The objective of just about ANY art form - be it movies, plays, novels, paintings, etc. - is to coax people out of their comfortable mindsets and get them to identify with the new, the unfamiliar, even the distasteful. If the writers/performers can't pull it off, soundtrack and slang won't make up the difference. I honestly don't know if Coppola's performers had the chops to play 18th century European nobles we'd identify with and care about....but it's pretty apparent that even if they HAD the talent, their director didn't have any use for it.

Posted by: Regan at October 26, 2006 11:12 PM

I'm not getting this. So it is sort of like the cool and hip Danes and DiCaprio version of Romeo & Juliet? Where we have to dumb it down and modernize it for people to relate?

I have no interest in seeing this film. If Dunst didn't ruin it for me, the fact that once again history is being used as a vehicle through which modern culture gets to suck its own dick, does.

Posted by: ofthrees at October 27, 2006 7:38 PM

Marie Antoinette never said "let them eat cake". It was an often circulated rumor attributed to many princesses going as far back as 100 years before Marie Antoinette was even born. If it was uttered by her (if anything it was discussed) she would have used the word "brioche".

I loved this film, the flippant nature of the movie evokes the day to day life of the young Marie Antoinette. I recommend reading "Marie Antoinette - The Journey" the book the film was based after and the article about the writing of the film in the November VF if you wish to criticize.

Posted by: H at October 27, 2006 11:17 PM

I haven't seen the film yet, but I do happen to be in a PhD program for French history, and word on the street among French historians is that this movie is NOT AT ALL historically accurate!

So, enjoy the film for whatever other charms it has, but don't think you're watching the History Channel, because SC's Marie Antoinette is as far from the History Channel as "Gilligan's Island" was from a documentary on the South Pacific.

Posted by: filakia at October 28, 2006 3:03 PM

The Baz Luhrmann version of Romeo & Juliet was not "modernized" and "dumbed down" for contemporary audiences. You don't know what you're talking about. It is a wonderful, post-modern performance of a play that was meant to entertain the masses. And what do the masses want? Sex and violence, AND idealized "romantic love".

Posted by: English Teacher at October 28, 2006 3:46 PM

I have to say I found this review highly disappointing - almost as disappointing as the film. Coppola's addiction to the story of the poor little rich girl served her extremely poorly in this case. Her extreme focus on the hedonistic aspects of Marie Antoinnette's life might have been acceptable if this was merely a biography of the period's Paris Hilton, but the fact, with which Coppola repeatedly refuses to engage, is that Marie Antoinnette was a member of one of the most incompetent and parasitic monarchies in European history, however naive she herself may have been.

I found the depiction of the revolutionaries - a howling mob outside the gates - to be weak and unsatisfying. I didn't expect MA to have any comprehension of what was happening, but I did hope that the filmmaker would at least have some. Instead she shows a sweet blonde woman being victimised by a dirty mob, and never even gestures towards the massive (and deserved) discontent with the monarchy. In the end I felt Coppola's refusal to face the revolution and all its effects robbed the film of any dramatic heft it might have had, and left it as vapid as its heroine. Extraordinarily disappointing.

Posted by: Fionna at October 29, 2006 7:40 AM

I have to say I found this review highly disappointing - almost as disappointing as the film. Coppola's addiction to the story of the poor little rich girl served her extremely poorly in this case. Her extreme focus on the hedonistic aspects of Marie Antoinnette's life might have been acceptable if this was merely a biography of the period's Paris Hilton, but the fact, with which Coppola repeatedly refuses to engage, is that Marie Antoinnette was a member of one of the most incompetent and parasitic monarchies in European history, however naive she herself may have been.

I found the depiction of the revolutionaries - a howling mob outside the gates - to be weak and unsatisfying. I didn't expect MA to have any comprehension of what was happening, but I did hope that the filmmaker would at least have some. Instead she shows a sweet blonde woman being victimised by a dirty mob, and never even gestures towards the massive (and deserved) discontent with the monarchy. In the end I felt Coppola's refusal to face the revolution and all its effects robbed the film of any dramatic heft it might have had, and left it as vapid as its heroine. Extraordinarily disappointing.

Posted by: Fionna at October 29, 2006 7:40 AM

Fionna, Amen, Amen, Amen.

Posted by: Samantha T at October 29, 2006 4:20 PM

This review and Antonia Fraser's article in this month's Vanity Fair may get me over my severe aversion to Kiki. Maybe.

Posted by: Candy at October 29, 2006 6:09 PM

this movie felt like it was directed by an 8-year old girl. puppies, treats, pretty dresses, lambs, cute little toddlers, flowers!...i mean, what the hell? the script was non-existent, how does something like this get made?

i, too felt that sofia coppola only seemed to be interested in this story because she connected herself to the idea of this priveliged life of endless parties and having everything she could want...she is really misunderstood and just wants to have fun, everybody! please forgive her for godfather 3! i hope her next movie shows me something besides a pretty girl walking along pretty landscapes with the sun caressing her from behind...i'm beginning to think there is not really that much this woman really has to offer..

Posted by: mariootsa at October 29, 2006 7:44 PM

THANK FUCKING GOD Kirstin Dunst doen't have the same damned teeth as every other bleach-head "Oh I'm soooo up to the minute, want to see my stupid stomach?" (well actually, NO, I don't) with the money to pay for the same old tired freakin----yawn---porcelain veneers as all the rest of them.
I hate to tell you this but you are all individuals too and just because someone doesn't look like a retouched picture in a skin mag isn't exactly a "bad" thing.
Loved Schwartzman, he rocked and was a sweet little king. Dunst was good considering what she was given to do...the pug was freakin' adorable but where the hell was Hello Kitty?

Posted by: Mary at November 2, 2006 2:34 PM

What I got from the film was how insulated, ill-formed and clueless the Royals were, locked in their rituals and idleness. As they were not portrayed as aging in the film, as one commentator above noted, you'd be forgiven for thinking that they were always clueless and sheltered. But Louis and MA were ruling one of the largest powers in Europe and, after 20 years, you'd expect some political awareness which would indicate the choices/lack thereof that the characters made - too bad we didn't see these. I enjoyed the film, found it had one party scene too many, too much sheperdess MA, the montage will date terribly (and for the record, bowowow are crap cartoon manufactured shite); Dunst was perfect as a shy young foreign princess and not-so-sharp queen. Versailles looked sublime and Judy Davis shoulda been in it more. Finis

Posted by: Lizzie at November 3, 2006 10:44 PM

I found the movie sweet and sour. The costumes, food, and scenery were fabulous but the story dragged and Marie needed much more depth for the story to be so focussed on her. Sophia Coppola tried to make it more accessible to young people but the music was disconcerting.

Posted by: Bonnie at November 6, 2006 8:41 PM

This movie should've just cut through the period piece bullshit and simply been called "Can't Hardly Consummate". At least then I wouldn't have watched it with any expectations.

Posted by: Ailsa at February 19, 2007 3:06 AM

Can't say I liked the film at all. Strangely, the elements I thought I would hate the most were the ones I didn't really mind too much. The music and dialouge was a little clever-clever, but was okay at an abstract representation of decadence in the Palace of Versailles.

No, the real problem is Sophia Coppolla's bizarre notion of wanting to rehabilitate Marie Antoinette. There is certainly an argument to say she was not the monster the revolutionaries made her out to be, but if you want to make this point, you have to demonstrate the facts with some accuracy, especially the political ones. Of which the latter, there was absolutely none in the film. All Sophia did here to rehabilitate Marie Antoinnette's reputation was cast her as a generally nice and sweet person, and point out that she never said "let them eat cake" - not exactly the type of argument that is going to overturn public opinion.

Oh, and the one thing that was clearly a load of rubbish was that we were expected to believe that a princess brought up in the Hapsburg Court would know nothing about court etiquette. Please.

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