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I Love You, Beth Cooper / Dustin Rowles

Film Reviews | July 10, 2009 | Comments (57)


It’s time, I think. It’s time to put away the boomboxes. Time to put away the scrunchies. Remove Simply Red from our playlists. And take the bras off our heads. The world has moved on. It hurts me as much as anyone to admit this, but it’s time we retired the John Hughes’ archetypes. In 2009, they just don’t fit anymore. Even Hughes, the 1980’s Salinger — who is holed up somewhere in Wisconsin out of the public’s eye — has moved on. It’s time that the rest of Hollywood does the same.

A couple of years ago, television critic Larry Doyle wrote this splendid little coming-of-age novel called I Love You, Beth Cooper. It was a brilliant piece of Hughesian fiction, one of my favorite books of the last five years, and one that borrowed from the entire Hughes oeuvre and a few other movies from the era. It worked because, by and large, it was targeted toward the people who grew up then. We got it. We understood it. The characters were paying homage to largely fake constructs that we categorized ourselves only in retrospect — we identified ex post facto. We probably all thought we were Ferris Buellers at the time; it took a few years of self-reflection to realize that we were probably closer to Wyatt Donnelly.

But the movie? It’s crap. You can’t transplant the spirit of an entire era, and even if you could, what teenager now is going to understand it? Granted, I Love You, Beth Cooper, the movie, is faithful to the word of the book (it was adapted by Doyle), and even the characters look the part — you couldn’t have found, in Paul Rust, a better representation of the Dennis Cooverman on the book’s dust jacket. Jack Carpenter’s ambiguously gay Rich Munch is picture perfect, and even Hayden Panettiere looks the part, even if she’s about as talented as an actress as Martha Dumptruck was skinny. Hell, it was even a nice touch to get Alan Ruck (Ferris Bueller’s Cameron Frye) to play Cooverman’s dad.

But it all absolutely fails under the outdated direction of Chris Columbus. There’s no other way to explain it: They looked the parts, they said the right words, and yet, I Love You, Beth Cooper is somewhere in Egypt’s land, along with Cameron Frye’s blank, distant stare. It possesses absolutely no energy; there’s not an ounce of magic. Unlike the novel, it doesn’t feel like an homage to Hughes; it feels like a badly dated, straight-to-video, humorless, heartless, pale imitation, which is all the more shocking because Larry Doyle’s novel felt like a movie.

I Love You, Beth Cooper opens during a high-school graduations ceremony, where Dennis Cooverman (Rust), the class valedictorian, decides to make it a dare to be great situation and profess his unyielding love for Beth Cooper (Panettiere) in front of the whole class, and Cooper’s older boyfriend. Beth is remarkably sanguine about it, and even decides — with her two best friends — to attend Cooverman’s graduation party, which consists of only Cooverman and his best friend, Rich, a possibly gay theater nerd who spends the entire movie quoting older movies (funny in the book; obnoxious on the screen). Of course, Beth’s military boyfriend, Kevin (Shawn Roberts, who is part Can’t Hardly Wait’s Peter Facinelli and part Weird Science’s Chet) shows up, wreaks some mayhem, beats on Cooverman, and triggers the night-long chase, from party, to high school, and finally, to a cabin in the woods. Blood is spilled. Pratfalls are had. Panties are exposed.

Meanwhile, Cooverman — who somehow epitomizes all of Anthony Michael Hall’s early work without actually capturing any of it — begins to realize that Beth — part Heather, part Claire Standish, and part Can’t Hardly Wait’s Amanda — isn’t exactly the mythic woman he’d idealized through four years of high school. Of course, through the night’s Adventures in Babysitting, sans babysitting, Cooverman begins to fall for the girl he gets to know, although Beth is insightful enough to realize that Cooverman’s life is ahead of him, while hers will essentially end the day after graduation, a notion that felt immensely more bittersweet on the page.

There’s never been an official remake of any of John Hughes’ classic 1980s comedies, but there’s an unofficial one, it seems, a few times a year, made by folks who grew up on Hughes but haven’t seen the inside of a high school in 15 or 20 years. It’s been about 32 years for Chris Columbus, who directed I Love You, Beth Cooper. It’s nice sentiment and all, but you can’t make a Hughesian film for today’s teenagers. It’s a Superbad world, and Farmer Ted has no place in it. He belongs in the basement, with that box of VHS tapes with all the episodes of “21 Jump Street” on them. Nobody cares about the football team’s quarterback or the captain of the cheerleading squad anymore; it’s archaic. High schoolers trade in a different kind of currency now, and I’ve been out of high school long enough not to try making a guess as to what it is.

But what I can tell you is this: I Love You, Beth Cooper doesn’t understand it any better than I do. Unfortunately, instead of conceding that point and simply making a movie targeted toward 30-somethings aching for a nostalgic trip back to the worst years of their lives (see Adventureland), I Love You, Beth Cooper tries to fit Ducky into a generation more preoccupied with Twilight and Facebook friends than they are being the prom queen. Life moves fast. And Chris Columbus never stopped to look around long enough to notice that it’d passed him by.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. You can email him or leave a comment below.


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Comments

That was a nice review Dustin. And such a shame, I really enjoyed that novel.

Posted by: Julie at July 10, 2009 3:29 PM

Im only 27 and that depressed the hell out of me .
Why i could not really say but shit im glad im leaving for vegas in a few hours to drink the saddness of that review away.

Posted by: gilp at July 10, 2009 3:34 PM

Why can't we shake this girl? I know her last name sounds kinda pervy, but I agree with Todd over at IDLYITW, I'd feel like a pedophile if I ever saw her in a sex scene. Hell, I feel nasty if I see here lick on a lollipop. Can't we find a curvier, red headed young woman to play in movies any more?

Posted by: Xtreme at July 10, 2009 3:35 PM

Sweet mercy, this is perhaps the saddest review I've ever read.

Posted by: slappymcgee at July 10, 2009 3:35 PM

Terrific review. Wow, seriously just spectacular. Inspired. You are exactly the guy to review this movie. This site should be so much more popular with reviews like this one. Nailed it.

Posted by: becks at July 10, 2009 3:47 PM

Well, that's horribly depressing. To be honest with you, I only graduated High School last year, and I still have no idea how it works. How the hell does anyone over the age of 25 think they can understand it any better?

Anyways, this sucks hard, mostly because I sorta dug the shit out of the book. Balls.

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at July 10, 2009 3:54 PM

While this is no surprise that this movie sucks, it's really nice to see people are still giving midgets jobs. She had better be thanking Willow every night before she lays her head on her tiny pillow.

Posted by: Heather! at July 10, 2009 3:56 PM

Good review, but I am Kball's complete lack of surprise. Saw this yawner coming from deep space.

In other obvious news, Micropenis likes explosions! Hey look! BOOM!!! Stop staring at the nubbin! BLAM!!! The prostitutes scream in delight! WHUMP!!! He does NOT need a rubber band to keep the condom on! KABLOWIE!!! He bets that stack of cash on the dresser will make you 'gasm!

Posted by: Kballs at July 10, 2009 3:58 PM

*Yeah, I'm fucking boooorrrred.*

Posted by: Kballs at July 10, 2009 4:01 PM

Did anyone really have high hopes for ILYBC? It's hard enough to make a decent coming of age movie, significantly harder still to adapt one from a young adult novel, but when you are also required to maintain a plot that follows in well-worn teen movie plot tropes and relies on subtle nuance and homage to 80s pop culture archetypes and you trust it all to someone as obtuse and ham-handed as Chris Columbus you can't seriously expect him to pull it off, right? This ain't Harry Potter.

Maybe Rob Thomas could have done something with this material worth pinning your Summer Movie hopes on but this was a suckers bet from pre-production. Rent it if you liked Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist.

Posted by: Yossarian at July 10, 2009 4:03 PM

Wonderful review. This is one of those incredibly insightful, fair reviews that isn't "snarky" or "bitchy" and is a great example of why I started frequenting this website in the first place.

I agree with your entire sentiment. Teenagers from 20 years ago were different from teeenagers today. I don't mean in general, superficial ways; things like angst, self-pity and discomfort will always be a part of American teenagers. But life has changed in real ways since John Hughes brought life to the unlivable. Naive horniness has become oversexed ambition. Misery has become suicidal/homicidal rage. Inter-personal communication has become instantly gratifying and simultaneously distancing. Even the entire educational system (a subject rarely touched upon in ANY highschool film, past or present) has started to suffer -- meaning that our teens minds aren't being fed properly (insert fat joke).

Things. Are. Different.

And you understand that.

I suppose every aging generation looks at the current state of teen life with this same impression, while every teenager believes it isn't so -- that the older generation has just forgotten. I don't think that's the case. I think times genuinely change and new generations have new challanges and perceptions.

Hollywood needs to understand what you seem to grasp so well.

Thanks for the great review.

Posted by: superasente at July 10, 2009 4:12 PM

The whole "popular in high school but there is OMG no future for her" thing is sort of dated as well.

In the kinds of places where these sorts of movies are set, most people go on to college. And--surprise!--the pretty popular girl in high school goes on to be the pretty popular sorority girl at her state school. She gets a degree and a mildly successful job to go with it. Eventually, she gets married and raises her 2.5 kids in the suburbs, chatting up other mom's during the swim lessons. Rough.

There's no Hughesian poignancy to modern day high school narratives (the exception is Friday Night Lights, where the characters' ability to pay for and get into college is explored realistically).

Posted by: Mandy at July 10, 2009 4:33 PM

Now I really want to read this novel, so there's a positive, at least.

Posted by: MM at July 10, 2009 4:35 PM

Great review Dustin. I have never had a problem with your snarky reviews, but I do agree with superasente that this was the kind of review that I look for. It was interesting, substantive, and thoughtful: three words I shall never apply to a Peter Travers review.

I also agree that Hughes time has passed. Instead of boys hoping to see panties, tween girls are "sexting" naked pictures of themselves to boys they like (note, POTENTIAL boyfriends). I am actually excited to see what the coming of era movie will be for this high school generation. I highly doubt it will be the "facebook" movie, but it is always so fascinating to watch culture evolve, or, at least how culture is portrayed in movies through the decades. I have hope that someone will be able to capture the essence of today's youth somehow. Whether I get it or not will be beside the point.

Posted by: "Luker" the barbarian at July 10, 2009 4:40 PM

MM, ditto about the novel for sure.

Posted by: Caroline at July 10, 2009 4:41 PM

The big difference with Hughes' high schoolers and today's high schoolers (and I speak as one who tries to feed their minds, even if it gets pushed aside for horror remakes and Facebook) is that the stereotypical tropes don't exist. At least, not where I teach, a large urban school district in the Boston area. There is no BMOC, no brat pack, and while cliques exist and nerds get picked on and all that, it's just.... not the same. If kids watch movies like these, it's for the mildly amusing pratfalls and actual meta-enjoyment of the stereotypes, which maybe sort of points to the problem with today's teens, after all -- they're more like mini-adults.

Posted by: Ariel at July 10, 2009 4:43 PM

Forgive me, it may be my age or my circumstances, but were Hughes' movies really that relevant? If so, it is kinda frightening. I enjoyed Weird Science, but the high school life they had was just as fantastical as the woman they created.

Then again, I was apparently an alien, because I didn't get the point to any of it. School spirit, dances, popularity. What did that have to do with anything? Why would anybody care about the quarterback or the prom queen in the first place? Does that get my ass a diploma faster? Does it get me away from those suffocating classes?

I might be the only one, but still: did anybody feel the Hughesian high school experience was just as ridiculous and unrealistic as anything today?

Posted by: Vermillion at July 10, 2009 4:47 PM

I also agree that Hughes time has passed. Instead of boys hoping to see panties, tween girls are "sexting" naked pictures of themselves to boys they like (note, POTENTIAL boyfriends).

Not to mention the myriad forms of porn available without any of the previous obstacles.

If anything, technology is the major reason such movies don't really work anymore. It is like cell phones in horror films: they strip away tension and challenge, and any attempt to artificially restore it (low battery, no signal, lost) is done so ridiculously. There are no real challenges for teens anymore. Most of the teens today have had wilder lives than I could have comprehended.

Maybe the problem is that the parents (those former teens in the 70s and 80s) are so busy trying to relive their pasts (or the pasts they think they had), that the kids had to grow up fast. And now nobody has any idea what the hell is going on.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 10, 2009 4:57 PM

Vermillion, I agree with you 100%. My friends in college shoved Hughes' films down my throat mercilessly and I just never got why they seemed to connect with them so much. My high school experience was absolutely nothing like a Hughes movie and any way, shape, or form. They were cute enough to watch, but certainly never made me think "Yes, that's exactly what it was like!" Nope, not so much.

Posted by: osmate77 at July 10, 2009 5:01 PM

Seeing Hayden Pantywhore in the marquee is all the evidence I need to render verdict to the effect that this is pure unadulterated excrement of the smelliest order.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 10, 2009 5:07 PM

I don't think I ever took high school seriously enough to really connect to any high school movie that aimed to be anything other than a comedy. I graduated from high school 4 years ago, and while there probably were people doing wild stuff, I just hung out with my mellow friends and took a bunch of AP classes. I did a few extracurriculars and held down a part time job. That's what I remember from high school. I was excited to get out.

Posted by: kelsy at July 10, 2009 5:29 PM

Hayden is not too much of a concern considering she looks like a Hobbit with Down Syndrome. If her face was anymore bland and emotionless, Andy Warhol would rise from his grave and have it minted in solid metal.

High school is the hell that most of us had to endure before finding out what a hellish existence adulthood is. Kelsy if it's any consolation to you, just imagine this...

All of the people that were really popular in high school are probably waiting tables or got knocked up after graduation.

Nothing fills my heart full of good cheer and laughter at the thought that some of the vainglorious, insufferable, and mediocre beings who inhabited that place have most met with abject failure, drug addiction, and possible death. I know it sounds bad but some of them deserved it.

Posted by: bignick at July 10, 2009 5:39 PM

I'll have you know I have a glandular problem!

Posted by: Martha Dumptruck at July 10, 2009 5:41 PM

would it help if i got high first?


and martha, my date for the prom kinda flaked out...

Posted by: gp at July 10, 2009 5:54 PM

Looks like I'll be reading this one again... maybe I'll netflix it down the road, but I won't be heading to the theater for it anytime soon.

I'd like to echo all the commenters who were a bit saddened by this review. But that might have more to do with the idea of closing the door on the past than with this review itself.

Agh. I feel old. I need a drink.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at July 10, 2009 6:03 PM

bignick>> no consolation necessary. I liked high school well enough (as much as you can, I guess). I was just trying to point out that my experience wasn't steeped in cliques and other Hughesian shenanigans nor was it extremely wild. I got through the experience fairly unscathed, but there doesn't seem to be very many movies about those kids. But I guess that isn't very cinematic.

Posted by: kelsy at July 10, 2009 8:24 PM

I'm 16 now. I never understood the Hughesian archetypes. When I was younger I assumed that this was how it was in high school, but as I got older I just got tired of them. My generation has been marinating in these stereotypes for a very long time, which means none of us can really say "hey, he GOT it"!

Every time I see a movie or something and there's a pretty, popular, rich snotty girl as a rival to our merely upper middle class, artsy/quasi-nerdy, ugly-but-actually-beautiful-with-glasses-on heroine, I always brace myself and prepare to humor the movie. Sure enough, here come the asshole jocks, the hilarious jokes at the expense of the nerds who are too nerdy and the rich snobs who are not nerdy enough, and some arbitrary extracurricular being deemed the epitome of geekery (usually yearbook). These tropes are never really challenged or explored beyond the obvious way of having the snotty girl have lemonade poured on her head or something. If we're lucky, the popular kids are shown to have no future, or maybe they're only bullies because their parents neglect them. Even so, the underlying message remains the same: they're all out to get you because they're jealous, and everyone prettier, richer, or more more charming than you is stupid and pathetic (people who are uglier, poorer, and less charming than you, on the other hand, are intrinsically hilarious).

To answer the question of what my generation's coming-of-age movie will be: One of the movies that seemed to speak to the people in my high school (or at least the guys) was Superbad. Aside from the obvious reasons (i.e. they liked the jokes), I think it spoke to them because there weren't really those archetypes. Seth, Evan, and McLovin were unpopular largely because they were uncharismatic, which, at least in my school, is how it really goes. Also, a lot of it didn't have much to do with high school, so it both feed into the adolescent desire to be an adult, and it wasn't yet another movie that cluelessly "dissects high school", by way of presenting and not dissecting meaningless archetypes.

/rant

It sounds to me like this movie is more of a pastiche of these cliches than a parody or an examination, so, yeah, pass.

Posted by: Lenina Crowne at July 10, 2009 9:53 PM

I read the book after it was on the Best of 2008 (I think that was the year?) list on here, and I really loved it...but I looked the trailer up on Youtube one night out of morbid curiosity and the only thing I could say after watching was that the book was good.
It's pretty sad...maybe not everything should be made into a movie, though, Hollywood.
I'd like to italicize Holly wood, but I don't know how, so just imagine it.

Posted by: Cait at July 10, 2009 11:13 PM

Hayden, pull up your shirt, for the love of God. You look so trashy. Do you WANT to look like Britney Spears?

Posted by: figgy at July 10, 2009 11:26 PM

Well damn. What do you mean high school isn't like it used to be? I'll eventually have to get three kids through high school and I'm going to look every bit as clueless to them as I figured my parents were when I was in high school. How do you tell who's popular anymore? Please tell me that rich still equals popular, because if I can at least count on that then I will still sort of know where things stand. So how do I go about learning how things work now, so I don't look as clueless as Ferris Bueller's parents? Crap!

Read a very differently worded but similar sentiment review of this movie on NPR today. The second time always confirms it.

Posted by: katy at July 10, 2009 11:56 PM

Hayden, pull up your shirt, for the love of God. You look so trashy. Do you WANT to look like Britney Spears?

Posted by: figgy at July 10, 2009 11:26 PM
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Shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at July 11, 2009 12:01 AM

I can't understand why Hayden Panettiere is famous. I mean, I know it's the same thing with Megan Fox, where the general public is told she's hot so many times they start believing it themselves, but at least Megan Fox does a reasonable impression of hotness. Hayden looks like a little girl. She's about four feet tall and she's got these chubby little hands that wouldn't look out of place on a baby. It gives me the serious creeps.

Posted by: James at July 11, 2009 3:41 AM

Martha Dumptruck, I'm sorry to hear that you have a glandular problem. Would you like me to get you a step ladder so we can finish our conversation face to face?

Posted by: bignick at July 11, 2009 5:03 AM

James, Megan Fox is somewhat hot because she looks like she was designed for one purpose: to gurgle meat popsicles.

Hayden Pantywad on the other hand doesn't even register on the fuckable scale. It's kinda difficult to put her on there when I remember what she looked like in Remember The Titans. Hayden is only a dick magnet for horny old guys (over the age of 35) who want to relive their youth by the fucking the head cheerleader. You know, the American Beauty mid life crisis.

Posted by: bignick at July 11, 2009 5:06 AM

Why should Hughesian archetypes hold up today? They didn't make any sense when I was 16 and The Breakfast Club was out in theaters. The concerns about popularity and cliques seemed like throwbacks to the '50s.

Posted by: cinderkeys at July 11, 2009 5:19 AM

I do have to say, one nice thing about 80s teen movies - including Highes' oeuvre - is that they were pretty simple on the whole "rich vs not-rich" conflict. Karate kid, Girls Just Wanna Have Fun, Pretty in Pink, Flashdance even. There's still a bit of that in movies now, but it has more complex tones, and it's often racial. I'm not saying race and class aren't connected, but maybe if we paid more attention in this country to wealth and less to race, we'd be better off.

Oh, but there I go being all Socialist and crap.

Posted by: Ariel at July 11, 2009 7:37 AM

Two Twilight references in this review. Nice.

When I saw the previews for this film, I asked, "Wait, this didn't come out already?" Hayden P. charmed me in Remember the Titans, but only the first time I saw it. Now, I'd rather just watch her try to hock Neutrogena products than actually see her in a movie or Heroes.

Posted by: duckandcover at July 11, 2009 8:00 AM

Hayden is only a dick magnet for horny old guys (over the age of 35) who want to relive their youth by the fucking the head cheerleader. You know, the American Beauty mid life crisis.

Posted by: bignick at July 11, 2009 5:06 AM
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You say that like it's a bad thing.

5.23.57

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at July 11, 2009 12:26 PM

You say that like it's a bad thing.

And like there is an age limit.

12.07.82

Hayden P. charmed me in Remember the Titans, but only the first time I saw it. Now, I'd rather just watch her try to hock Neutrogena products than actually see her in a movie or Heroes.

Same here. And she was pretty funny on Malcolm In The Middle. I think the issue is in Titans and Malcolm (and the commercials), she wasn't being presented as a object of desire or fetish fuel; she was just playing her part.

That could be said for a lot of actresses really; the quality of the role goes down as the implied sexuality goes up.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 11, 2009 1:06 PM

BTW, bignick, I never got to fuck the head cheerleader in my youth, so I wouldn't be reliving anything. I'd be LIVING! Unless you have some kind of statute of limitations you wish to impose upon my freedom? Or are you ageist and I should just climb on the next iceberg that floats by?

And if it makes you feel any better, I wouldn't fuck her at all, if she'd be fine with just 69ing all day.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at July 11, 2009 1:41 PM

Seth, Evan, and McLovin were unpopular largely because they were uncharismatic, which, at least in my school, is how it really goes

This is exactly why I loved Napolean Dynamite. It was like the actual reality version of the Hughes oeuvre.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at July 11, 2009 2:10 PM

Loved the review.

Posted by: Mick J at July 11, 2009 3:53 PM

Simply Red will remain on my playlist. Period.

Posted by: Finn at July 12, 2009 12:24 AM

bucdaddy, I would never ever impugn your rights to do whatever you wish to do with your wrinkly flesh to Hayden Pantywad. She is over the age of 18 and as such is a legal adult.

However I would recommend against 69 with Pantywad. She seems to have little to no experience in such matters, which would cause frustration and eventual loss of wood.

Posted by: bignick at July 12, 2009 5:29 AM

bucdaddy, I would never ever impugn your rights to do whatever you wish to do with your wrinkly flesh to Hayden Pantywad. She is over the age of 18 and as such is a legal adult.

However I would recommend against 69 with Pantywad. She seems to have little to no experience in such matters, which would cause frustration and eventual loss of wood.

Posted by: bignick at July 12, 2009 5:30 AM

Sorry about the double post, my connection lagged on me.

Posted by: bignick at July 12, 2009 5:31 AM

Anybody ever pull out their yearbooks and actually LOOK at the head cheereleader? I remembered the cheerleaders in my school being super hot---then I looked at the yearbook. OUCH. It's amazing how being 16 and horny colors one's perceptions.

Posted by: Mike at July 12, 2009 12:59 PM

haha I think Mandy got a little offended...she doesn't mind being the Christy Masters Christiansen of the world!

Posted by: mae at July 12, 2009 1:31 PM

I don't get the Hughes adoration. Not because there's NO entertainment value (although, I DO love me some rampant racism. Boys who don't have pink skin? AHHHHHH!), but because there seem to be these legions of people out there for whom these films acted as a walking mirror. I think it's kind of intriguing because I've never felt that sense of connection to a film, and I'd kind of like to know what it's like. Or maybe they were just supposed to do that. I only have a plexiglass rhombus-shaped box where my heart is supposed to be, so plays for the ol' 'Emotion Zone' don't register right.

It was always the same idea of adolescence that was being presented, so was one supposed to feel as if granted an absolution, or look to this stuff as an edifying primer? Neither, because they're just films--silly ones at that. And I lack too many of the ideal demographic bullet points, to expect that they would be marketed towards me, let alone be able to find some aspect of them which would be representative of something of my own life.

But I guess statements like 'just a bunch of silly movies' are one of the billions of reasons I could never be a film reviewer. Shrug?

And if I were to say what I truly think of FREAKS AND GEEKS (perhaps the reason no one watched it in the first place was because it was as asinine and cliched as every other adolescent after-school abatoire posing as entertainment--omigosh, she had a party when her folks were away, and it got out of hand. A FUCKING REVELATION--), my family would have to identify my corpse via my dental records.

Although, I've got too much student debt to have any regard for my life so: Stupid, re-headed crap. Ooh, remember that time when the uncool kid had a crush on the 'bad boy with hidden depths'? That TOTALLY made me re-think the way that uncool kids sometimes have crushes on the 'bad boys with hidden depths'. And the way we think about throwing pies, too. I am forever cleansed! I guess you can't re-invent the wheel.

That was my own fault for not staying true to my 'on the whole, teenagers are not interesting' stance. though. So, I'm out of line on that front.

Whether any of this stuff strikes a chord with your erstwhile high school mis-remembered experiences or phantasms isn't up for the firing squad. But, I get the sense that there are scores and scores of people who didn't really find that these character types (so-narrow and living in carefully-delineated categories as per my own narrow-minded bias)existed in any kind of real life capacity. I guess I was one of the myriad boring kids who were caught up in activities that were not based solely on watching the 'desirable' ones with longing, contempt or both. Or with being one of these individuals who either does or doesn't struggle with it.

It has nothing to do with hoping that these kids would get their just desserts by having inordinately terrible lives, or by spending hours thinking, saying or in some manner expressing biliousness, or being haughtily self-satisfied. I had enough of my own life to lead/enjoy/be tormented by. Stay out of the fray, I'm crashing this on my own, I'm an independent lady!!!!!!

Those stories aren't very interesting, though. So what do you do? I suppose no one should make a show based on my high school experiences.

Episode 1: Marilyn reads Shakespeare at the table until she finishes it. Then watches a re-run of something.

Episode 2: Marilyn's hayfever makes it difficult for her to speak loudly enough during her French class presentation on Monaco.

Episode 3: Marilyn does algebra homework on her birthday. She doesn't like algebra, but would gladly take it over graphing.

Episode 4: At lunch, Marilyn shares some banana bread that she made last night with her friend. The results are delicious.

Episode 5: During an electrical storm, Marilyn is forced to close her umbrella. This exacerbates her already-worsening flu symptoms. And, hoping to read HOWARD'S END during March Break, is far too sick to leave bed. One unfortunate morning, too weak to stand up, she is forced to watch that one episode with the bicycle store, Dudley, the bed-jumping and the wine...YOU KNOW! She is so thoroughly creeped out, she wonders what exactly forced her to vomit in her sick bucket. She falls asleep during that one episode of ALL IN THE FAMILY when Edith almost gets raped, and is pleasantly surprised to wake up during the episode of THE FLINTSTONES with The Way-Outs. She reads HOWARD'S END three weeks later, and likes it.

Episode 6: Marilyn's friend, who is obsessed with NSYNC, calls while one of their albums is playing in the background. When her friend answers a knock at her own door, Marilyn hangs up.

Episode 7: Marilyn's friend calls back.

Episode 8: Knowing that her friend hates the song 'Little Boxes', Marilyn informs her friend of the dubious virtues of 'ticky-tacky'. She's something of a latter-day trouvere.

Episode 9: Marilyn doesn't want to go the Hallowe'en Dance, and watches IT'S THE GREAT PUMPKIN, CHARLIE BROWN. More than a decade later, she supports that decision.

Episode 10: Marilyn misses three weeks of choir practice after having her four back molars removed to prevent future impaction. This hurt like eight bitches on a bitch-boat.

Episode 11: Marilyn's mother is tired of hearing Rachmaninoff, and asks her to practice her Beethoven, Schubert or Schumann when the two of them are at home. In a few months, she will discover the world of French music, also learning that her mother hates Debussy. Marilyn questions her mother's sanity, and is currently a Debussy-Ravel-Satie-Poulenc specialist.

Episode 12: Pre-empted for cramps.

Episode 13: Marilyn watches the World Cup in the cafetorium during her morning spare. She should be parsing sentences, but thinks, 'fuck this space shit', and pushes her notes away.

Episode 14: Marilyn's bra size goes up, mother insists on even looser gabardines.

Episode 15: Marilyn gets a pimple. It has no bearing on her day. She anticipates another one in the days to come.

Episode 16: Snow Day. Marilyn harmonizes assigned Bach chorales for her music theory teacher. One of Marilyn's friends calls up to talk about some loser boy. Marilyn pretends, but doesn't care much.

Episode 17: Marilyn misses her bus. She must wait in the corridor for 'O, Canada' to finish before she is allowed to enter into her biology class and dissect a pig fetus. She did a serviceable job, despite the fact that her lab partner bailed on her. Marilyn decides that this is due to some 'weak, wack-ass personality flaw'. She's probably right.

Episode 18: Marilyn goes to a movie: it is of poor quality.

Episode 19: Marilyn gets a new locker. It is ugly. As per always, this one goes unused and undecorated.

Episode 20: Marilyn applies for her first student loan. Contemplates the boxcar circuit in lieu of university.

Episode 21: Nothing happened.

Episode 22. Marilyn does her hair slightly differently.

Episode 23. Marilyn realizes that she has forgotten how to play badminton, is not bothered by this.

Episode 24. Marilyn has a geography midterm. No shenanigans are involved, and no mayhem ensues.

Episode 25: Marilyn does not become popular. That is all.

Episode 26: Marilyn trips up a stair, later forgets what she was talking about in the middle of the story.

Episode 27: Marilyn looks it up, learns that there was such a thing as an 'anti-pope', which is not to be confused with the 'King of the Popes' or 'MacArthur Park'.

Episode 28: Marilyn wonders in a day-dream when she's going to use this crap, but is not nearly incurious or obnoxious enough to voice this concern.

Episode 29: Marilyn decides that the Nickleback kids are not good ambassadors for Canada. The bottle kids are better.

Episode 30: Marilyn burns the dinner a little bit, but it's still good.

I had some fucked-up crap going on, done to me in high school, as does everyone. I guess this type of situation isn't cinematic, even if it recognizable to many. Sure, there was unrequited love--though I've always that to be a redundant statement, because why would need to qualify 'love'? Sure, there was overwork and stress, but shoulder shrugs, right? There was a lot of other terrible stuff that's neither here nor there, but it's not as if high school as a concept always has to be either the walking Arcadia or Stygian enema that it's purported to be.

I think I've made no point at all. Oh well. Cthulthlu fhtagn, all.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at July 12, 2009 9:47 PM

I always found Hughes' films to be a strangely intoxicating daydream of high school. My personal experience was more along the lines of kids rather than sixteen candles.

Posted by: denvergal at July 12, 2009 10:43 PM

i hate that the marilyn show was cancelled.

it started a little slow, but when she read 'howard's end' in episode 5, i realized i was hooked. episode 12 totally pissed me off, but when we finally got to 22, *swoons*.
when dinner was burnt in the series finale... god, why am i crying just remembering it?

and then as suddenly as it appeared, it was gone, replaced by (what IS this?) some whiny hookers on the beach? oh. brooke hogan, DUH(!).

fuck you, network heads! always taking good shows off the air, like, you know, the facts of life and baretta.

Posted by: gp at July 12, 2009 11:55 PM

The thing about high school is that everything seemed like a big fucking deal. Hughes somehow captured this angst in a compelling way, even if you recognized the situations as false. I actually think that with today's kids, there is just a lot less angst. At least for those who are raised in homes with enough money to buy them enough things to achieve electronic induced passivity.

As for the low income kids, fuck, they are usually the kind of colors that don't show up in movies. I would love to see a good fucking movie about urban high school students that doesnt revolve completely around teen pregnancy, drugs, or some sort of Stand by Me Teacher bullshit. Because there is a lot of angst associated with poverty and limited futures. Like one student I have who is smart enough to see that she COULD be someone if given a chance, but doesn't get the best grades because she takes care of her little brothers and sister. She plays basketball, but misses a lot of games for the same reason. Won't be able to get a scholarship, and will probably work be a nurse or admin person and grow up to do the same drudgery her parents have made her do since she was a child. She doesn't do drugs, isn't a knocked up teen, just a young black woman frustrated at her options in life. Do a movie about THAT Hollywood.

Posted by: MissSmilla at July 13, 2009 12:19 AM

MissSmilla: Yup. I'm the youngest of three, but the rest is applicable. To any stranger on the street, I'm a walking set of statistics, and was born bound for perdition. I'm not exactly whooping it up presently, but I would have been in some beyond-dire straits were it not for the good old welfare state. Eat that, Archie Bunker.

Putting the extra economic/emotional strain on the family in a world you never made makes something go off. For a lot of people like me, it was evident early on that if you want to succeed, you have to MAKE every person with those statistician's eyes know that you're the best. The mindset of a lot of people in similar situations with their children is, 'I will do every fucking thing to you if that means you'll be better off. I don't care if means that you'll hate me for all of eternity with more-than-earned ferocity. You'll be well-off enough to pay a therapist to listen to you bitch about it.'

Ideal? No.
Fun? Never. Welcome to exam of ninety-seven in the 'Do we deign you good enough for our magnet school' challenge. Oh, magnet school kids. Often, I wanted to punch them too. Not for the sheer virtue of being nerds, but because of their smugness. Remember that episode of Andy Partridge with the child genius? Mild case. You know, that insipid little puke with the blonde hair upon which that character was based had a sex change? His name is 'Lauren' now. True.
Abusive? I'll give you nightmares.
Atypical: If only.
Effective. Yes.
Worth it? We'll see.

All things equal, I'm pretty lucky. I didn't go (too) crazy, and nothing (that) bad has stemmed directly from it. I very, very frequently think of what could have happened in my life, if even one of the variables were different. I think of how there are so many kids in the position of MissSmilla's student, who didn't get to hang around with kids and people who (though frequently repulsive and abusive) gave me my only living shot. If ever a camera crew were to focus on her these days, it would probably be to give Michelle Pfeiffer some congressional medal, or the rile up the liberal blood and get some sort of documentary Oscar. I'd rather have a bad start than a bad end, and it could've gone straight to hell for me were it not for pure-ass luck.


However, there are no plans for some sort of 'Marilyn After Dark' Series. I have conditional insomnia, and it's not good for my sleep hygiene techniques. My nights can't be considered interesting enough to film anyway. Why watch me watch MAUDE? Do it yourself. That's called initiative!

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at July 13, 2009 1:23 AM

(sheepishly) yes, ma'am.

Posted by: gp at July 13, 2009 9:54 AM

I was just talking to my sister (she grew up in the 80s, I grew up in the naughties) about how I just can't "get" The Breakfast Club. I enjoy the movie, but I just cannot relate to it. She was shocked.

Posted by: kayla at July 13, 2009 1:05 PM

Although the review is good, what many of the commenters think of as "different for today's kids" is strictly the presentation of 'scary stuff' by the 24hr news networks.

While CNN and MSNBC talk about Sexting and oral sex as though it were common, talking to most adolescent teenage boys seems to suggest they are actually LESS likely to 'get some' than younger generations. Many of these kids have been chaperoned and on 'play dates' for most of their lives, and tend to do activities in groups, rather than a chance to spend time one-on-one with a girl.

Just as the 50's preached about "reefer madness" the current outcry about sexting has pretty limited utility. The vast majority of males will not have had sex by 15. In fact, the proportion of adults who first had sex before age 15 was highest for non-Hispanic blacks (28 percent) compared to 14 percent for both Mexican-Americans and non-Hispanic whites (US National Center for Health Statistics).

Just 14 percent for a pink-skinned John Hughesian!!

So while the cliché's of the John Hughes films have always been slightly off, it's clear that kids still pine to see real panties, because they aren't going to see anything else.

Hardly anyone was ever an exact Ducky clone, and fewer still and Farris. But the angst and awkwardness then is still in kids today. It may be silly to put the object of lust in a cheerleader outfit, the fact that a boy longs for a girl who doesn't know him hasn't changed since boys went to war over Helen of Troy.

Posted by: morganew at July 13, 2009 3:40 PM

I concur.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at July 13, 2009 9:35 PM





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