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Clueless II: This Time, We Mean It, Motherfuckers

I Could Never Be Your Woman / Dustin Rowles

Film Reviews | February 20, 2008 | Comments (58)


Inarguably, the 1980s are, and probably will always remain, the best decade ever for teenage comedies — they came in with Fast Times at Ridgemont High and ended, suitably, with Heathers and Pump up the Volume, a 1990 film whose heart belonged in the 80s (“Jam me, jack me, push me, pull me, talk hard — *nostalgia tear*”). Sadly, aside from the occasional accidental gem, Pump Up the Volume also marked an end to that era. The Aughts have had Mean Girls and Superbad, but the landscape has otherwise been barren, while the 90s had only one certifiable, zeitgeistian hit: Amy Heckerling’s Clueless, an inexplicably great film that most of us assume was a satire on the vacuous pre-text messaging, mall-dwelling teenagers of the time.

But given Heckerling’s entire body of work (Fast Times aside, the success of which I attribute more to Cameron Crowe than to Heckerling’s hacky directing skills), maybe Clueless was more of an accidental hit — an aberration. Is it possible that we read more intelligence into the script than what actually existed? Could we have mistaken earnestness for irony? After all, it’s not as though Heckerling has had a history of biting satire: It certainly doesn’t exist in Look Who’s Talking, Look Who’s Talking Too, Johnny Dangerously, Loser or freakin’ Night at the Roxbury. Mayhaps we (or maybe it’s just me) have given entirely too much credit to Heckerling; either that, or — as a writer, in any respect — Clueless represents her one flash of brilliance, never apparently to be duplicated.

I mention this by way of introducing the review of I Could Never Be Your Woman, a film plagued by studio problems that nevertheless wound up exactly where it should be: In the straight-to-DVD bin, right next to Blonde Ambition and American Pie: The Naked Mile. It may sound like an overstatement given their collective works, but for Paul Rudd, Michelle Pfeiffer, and even Amy Heckerling, I Could Never Be Your Woman will likely stand as the biggest embarrassment of their respective careers, careers — by the by — which even include these asstastic gems: The Object of My Affection, Look Who’s Talking, Too, Tequila Sunrise, and Married to the Mob. I realize that Pfeiffer’s career is already on a downturn and that Rudd, surely, took this role out of some misguided obligation to Heckerling, but damn, it hurts to see good people make such huge, honking asses out of themselves. I understand that the film has suffered from innumerable release-date delays (there are references to the WB and UPN in the film), but the humor is more dated than even that: It’s as though it were a full-length sitcom that aired on Nickelodeon in 1997 — I kept expecting Topanga to show up or the cast to start belting out the “Breaker High” theme song. Indeed, the only element missing was a much-needed laugh track, so at least I would’ve known where the fucking jokes were meant to be.

Oh, it’s bad, people. It’s comedic ball-sweat dripped into a plate of week-old chili-fries. It’s a caged cinematic fart rattling a tin can on your bowels. It is to funny what a sports-arena lavatory is to clean. I Could Never Be Your Woman puts the suck in suck. The funniest joke (if you even want to call it that) in the entire movie comes when Rudd’s character shoots a grape into a woman’s ass crack, but even then, the execution of it is off. Stacey Dash — who played Cher’s best friend in Clueless — must have thought that she’d finally gotten another shot at glory after a decade of straight-to-DVD features when she landed a role alongside Paul Rudd and Michelle Pfeifer, but as it turns out, Woman amazingly represents the nadir of even her career, a notch below Secrets of a Hollywood Nurse. But hey! The lighting in the film is spectacular!

The story, such as it is, involves Rosie (Pfeiffer), a divorced 45-year-old television writer and mother of a teenage daughter. She falls for a younger man, Adam (Paul Rudd), after he auditions for her television show and lands a part. And then, for some reason, there’s all sorts of nonexistent high-jinx involving him being a much younger man than her (nevermind that few people would blink an eye at the prospect of a guy like Rudd dating a gal like Pfeiffer — pretty people flock to pretty people, age notwithstanding), most of which centers on Rosie’s younger secretary, Jeannie (Sarah Alexander) attempting to sabotage their relationship by photoshopping Adam’s face into pictures with the show’s younger star, Brianna (Stacey Dash) and leaving them around for Rosie to find. Moreover, the age disparity between the two is fucking insignificant anyway because both characters act like motherfucking 12 year olds during the entire film (pillow fights, “seafood/C-food” jokes, etc.). There’s also a throwaway subplot (to go along with the throwaway major plot) about Rosie’s daughter, who starts menstruating and then gets a crush.

But it’s the details that make I Could Never Be Your Woman so shitsmeartastic. Take, for instance, the fact that Rosie’s ex-husband, played by Jon Lovitz, left her for a younger woman (in what fucking universe, people?). Or this: The show that Rosie works on is called, “You Go, Girl,” and later, when she’s fired by her boss (Fred Willard), her show is replaced by one called, “The Shizzle.” Or how about this: Rosie’s confidante is a chip-eating Mother Nature apparition played by Tracey Ullman, who tries to convince Rose to get plastic surgery. Or this: Pfeiffer’s character wears Iron Maiden T-Shirts (Eddie the Head probably tried to leap from the shirt to his death). Or that Rosie, when confronted by her daughter’s teacher (Wallace “Never Start a Land War in Asia” Shawn), blames her lower test scores on her period. Or this: Her daughter’s shtick is making up her own words to Alanis Morissette songs (“Isn’t it Moronic,” about President Bush). Of course, there’s also this: Henry Winkler plays himself, the victim of a prank call by Rosie’s daughter, whose witty joke is to utter, “Ayyyyy!” into the phone and hang up.

Not convinced? Well, how about this: Graham Norton is in it.

I don’t think I need to say anymore.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives with his wife and son in Ithaca, New York. You may email him, or leave a comment below.


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Comments

Wow. This looked like a loser to me in spite of my beloved Paul Rudd, but I had no idea it could be so horrendous. I'm sad. I think I'll go watch an 80's movie and think of better times.

Posted by: Lainie at February 20, 2008 1:09 PM

Sad that this is what Michelle Pfeiffer gets to follow up Stardust with.

Posted by: jbrader at February 20, 2008 1:19 PM

I sincerely believe 80s teen flicks are superior to any produced in the 90s or today. However, I often wonder whether this is because they depict teenagers I can relate to, and an era that makes me feel all gooshy and nostalgic, and because I grew up watching them. I don't necessarily understand teen culture today, and I wonder whether that's why contemporary movies about teens don't do anything for me. I'm starting think some of us (I definately do this) might cut 80s movies a little too much slack.

Posted by: tt_marie at February 20, 2008 1:29 PM

re: Michelle Pfeiffer: To her credit, she looks pretty hot in that picture up there. She has aged incredibly well, regardless of whether she's had work done. If she has, she still looks very natural.

Posted by: tt_marie at February 20, 2008 1:31 PM

Hmm, this was getting some decent pub for being substantially superior to "straight-to-DVD" fair -- The Onion AV Club and "Entertainment Weekly" both ran features about it within the past week or so covering the difficulties in getting it released, how Heckerling's "vision" still radiates through the studio executives' tomfuckery, and how it's much better than many films with theatrical releases -- we're probably all looking at you, Napalm Vagina.

Because of Paul Rudd and Heckerling, I was actually considering putting this in-queue. Now I'm getting the sense that there was a major sympathy factor in play in those articles. In fairness, the AV Club featured it as an extension of the "My Year in Flops" series, but the guy liked this film pretty well.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at February 20, 2008 1:53 PM

Pfeiffer's career is already on a downturn

I refuse to believe that after the glory that was Stardust. I would have so many of that movie's glowy-haired gay pirate babies.

Posted by: Julie at February 20, 2008 1:53 PM

This does indeed look craptastic, but is it fair to say that Michelle Pfeiffer's career is on the downturn? She disappeared for a bit, on her own volition, and then reappeared recently in "Hairspray" and "Stardust", both of which she was very well-received in. Just sayin.

Posted by: julie at February 20, 2008 1:54 PM

I remember reading about this movie's release problems and feeling kind of bad that it was sort of impossible for me to actually have sympathy. Because it just sounded like crap.

Posted by: telis at February 20, 2008 1:56 PM

Look at that, lower-case julie and I think alike...are you my conscience? :p

Posted by: Julie at February 20, 2008 1:57 PM

Norton doesn't start singing 'Bohemian Rhapsody' Father Noel Furlong-style does he? Because that only works when he's terrorizing a youth group. Actually, that's the only thing that he's done that works. John Inman could've pissed all over him without even mussing his Panto Dame wig.

'Are you free?'

'I'm free--to shove a spiky red-hot poker into your nethers. But don't worry, it'll ride up with wear. *spit* Bitch.'

Why does Vizzini even know that a pubescent girl (who was magically born in 1982, judging by her music tastes)has begun menstruating? Having been a pubescent girl, I can vouch for the fact that is Number One of the list of things that you would rather be garotted than let your male teacher know. He must sneak an ear into the girl's washroom, and listen in on their hopes and dreams...

Leif Garrett
Corey
Stor(e)y
Allegory
Montessori
The Coreys
Fergal Sharkey
David St. Hubbins
Gabby Hayes

Either that, or he can sniff them out once they're shedding their motherly juices like a lion. That's the only reason I can think of that explains why he's always wanting to put his head in her lap.

Sarah Alexander (if it's the one I'm thinking about from COUPLING) Ullman and Norton? This film really has its finger on the Hollywood pulse. Where did they film this thing, Cornwall? Was Hammersmith too expensive?

I don't understand this Jeannie character. Is she some kind of Iago-like malcontent who has a tiny reason for a grudge, but is doing this mainly for shits and giggles? Is that ever explained? I'll bet a couple more subplots about that would wake this baby up.

Rudd and Pfeiffer look alternately embarassed and resigned in that photo. Is that pretty much representative of their performances?

Maybe people were banking on Heckerling too much after CLUELESS. I mean, everybody thought that Alicia Silverstone was a revelation who was on to big things, so they really bet on the wrong horse with that one. I'm sure if you asked Heckerling, she'd be characteristically happy to know that you cared.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at February 20, 2008 1:59 PM

Paul Rudd is officially dead to me.

*SOB!!!

Posted by: boo at February 20, 2008 1:59 PM

Hey! I liked Johnny Dangerously, you fargin' icehole!

Posted by: Todd at February 20, 2008 2:03 PM

Greetings and salutations.
There are very few movies you could discuss nowadays and compare favorably to the beauty that was Eighties Teen Humor. I was watching Heathers last night and every joke made me sadder, until I realized I kept saying "You can't even say that stuff anymore" out loud to myself.
sigh

Posted by: that bees chick at February 20, 2008 2:04 PM

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The first is never get involved in a land war in Asia. The second, and only slightly less well-known, is never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!!

Posted by: thejodester at February 20, 2008 2:07 PM

I am going to have to call P.Rudd and have a "now looky here" talk. Maybe I'll volunteer my script reading services.

Posted by: wsapnin at February 20, 2008 2:07 PM

"Probably he means no...harm."
"He's really very short on...charm!"

Posted by: Julie at February 20, 2008 2:11 PM

Oh, man, Johnny Dangerously is AWESOME! Fargin' iceholes, indeed!

Posted by: megbon at February 20, 2008 2:14 PM

Wouldn't you consider 10 Things I Hate About You a 90's teen comedy gem? It's more oft-quoted among my set than Clueless, if anything.

Posted by: Ling at February 20, 2008 2:37 PM

I am firmly in the pro Johnny Dangerously camp. I loved that movie. Granted, the last time I saw it I was probably 12, but still...

Don't grab me, Johnny. My mother grabbed me once... ONCE.

It was Joe Piscopo's finest hour.

Posted by: Ajax19 at February 20, 2008 2:38 PM

All right, Pajibans, stop that rhyming now, I mean it!

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at February 20, 2008 2:43 PM

Anybody want a peanut?

Well played! -- DR

And less than two minutes later! tb

Posted by: Julie at February 20, 2008 2:45 PM

Paul Middle-Name Rudd! Young man, you sit down and you tell me: WHAT. WERE. YOU. THINKING?!

Posted by: Smithy at February 20, 2008 2:45 PM

JoMamaBesser: I'm not sure I get the list in the middle of your post so maybe I'm missing something but for the record, no-one who would have the taste and discernment to be listening to Feargal Sharkey would ever be listening to Leif Garrett.

Posted by: PaddyDog at February 20, 2008 2:50 PM

TB-I always have Princess Bride on the brain.:)

Posted by: Julie at February 20, 2008 3:15 PM

I'm just really disappointed that I'm going to have to start lying about enjoying Married to the Mob. Although I must say Matthew Modine was cute enough at the time to obscure almost any major film crime, so maybe that explains it.

Posted by: Emily at February 20, 2008 3:17 PM

What's funny is that Ebert & Roeper reviewed this on the straight-to-DVD portion of the show this week (not Ebert, but whoever his replacement was) and gave it two thumbs up. They said it has some flaws but is more good than bad and deserved a theatrical release.

I think I'll go ahead and trust this review instead.

Posted by: Darth Corleone at February 20, 2008 3:19 PM

shitsmeartastic...HA! Erm...are you sure this is how you feel?

Posted by: Tamara at February 20, 2008 3:23 PM

I kept expecting Topanga to show up

I don't know whay, but I think all movies would be helped by having a character named Topanga show up at some point of time. Doesn't need to be played by Danielle Fishel always (maybe every 4th movie?)

Posted by: Brian at February 20, 2008 3:26 PM

Sarah Alexander is in this? That's too bad - I liked her in the various British sitcoms I've seen here in (Green Wing, Coupling). While this movie didn't sound that good I didn't think it would be this bad.

In IMDBing the cast I found this hilarious picture of Wallace Shawn. Where is that Asia quote from?
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm132946176/nm0001728

Posted by: Brian at February 20, 2008 3:33 PM

Sad that this is what Michelle Pfeiffer gets to follow up Stardust with

Technically she didn't - the aforementioned studio issues delayed the release fot his, but I think it was made before Stardust. IMDB lists it that way.

Posted by: Brian at February 20, 2008 3:35 PM

Brian: *it's from The Princess Bride, when Vizzini (Shawn) is having a battle of wits with the Man in Black.

*I need to get a life. Sigh.

Posted by: Julie at February 20, 2008 3:36 PM

Julie - I relized that as I read the comments. I was live commenting the review as I read it.

*I need to get a life. Sigh. No, you're ok. Never hurts to get out more though

Posted by: Brian at February 20, 2008 3:40 PM

It was Joe Piscopo's finest hour.

I beg to differ. Joe Piscopo's finest hour was in Wiseguys http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092226/

Thank you Mr. Acavano!

Posted by: mswas at February 20, 2008 4:22 PM

I think you mean "seafood/SEE food."

Oh and by the way: xyz.

Heeeeeee.

Posted by: Kathy at February 20, 2008 4:30 PM

I actually liked this movie, which is funny because before I saw it I thought the trailer was really horrible. But then my friend insisted it was good and when I watched it I thought it was cute/sweet/goofy and all the characters were really likable. I thought the "You Go, Girl" thing was funny because it did sound like a show that would be on UPN. I thought twelve-year-old girls prank calling Henry Winkler and going "aaaayyyyyy" was pretty realistic. Sadly, if I had his number I would still probably do it.

Posted by: Romy at February 20, 2008 5:15 PM

I WILL see this film, despite any bad reviews. Why? Because, I honest-to-god believe that the more Michelle Pfeifer movies I sit through, the closer I am to having an actual shot at tongue-kissing her.

F'reals, B!

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at February 20, 2008 5:15 PM

See, every time I'm wiling to concede that MAYBE isn't being run by a bunch of assclowns along comes Rowles to reaffirm my suspicions.

You are ragging on Johnny Dangerously? Are you fucking serious? That's a classic.

You know, my mother ragged on Johnny Dangerously once.....just...once.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 20, 2008 5:32 PM

Correction: *willing to concede that MAYBE this site*


stupid Dell...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 20, 2008 5:34 PM

I didn't hate it, but I did find myself getting a little embarassed for Paul Rudd. Most of the time he was his usual charming self, but every once in a while he'd go way over the top to do something "funny", and it was majorly cringe-inducing.

Michelle Pfeiffer gets one pass on the insecure-brink-of-middle-aged-woman-freak-out character. ONE.

I thought Saoirse Ronan was adorable, though. I really like her.

Posted by: Mimi at February 20, 2008 6:28 PM

Hey...

Can we just fire up the MurderTank and go on some sort of soul-saving redemption tour? Like, just hit all those poor suckers who have run afoul and baptimatize 'em in a pool of boozy spirits? We could quote the good quotes, rattle off fuzzy memories of their awesomeness, and then point out all the stupid things they've done of late? We can all wear robes. Robes are cool, right? If someone can get started on a hymnal of sorts, I'm sure there's a musician among us that can get some churchy fucking phat beats and we can clap and get some moves down. Can we do this soon, please? Or else I'm afraid Mr. Rudd is gonna wind up in an American Pie DVD release... He's SINKING people!! He CAN be saved!!

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at February 20, 2008 6:36 PM

I'll get the brews and pick you up, I won't tell you where we are gonna start but, hint: it starts with Pajiba and ends with Staff...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 20, 2008 6:41 PM

Cool. I'll be out front with my barb-wire bat-chucks and a sack of ninja smoke poofs.

My mom's packing up some Manwiches and Capri Suns, but I told her to keep the porch light on.

Lookout, Mr. Rudd... PAJIBA'S COMIN' AND WE'RE BRINGING HELL WITH US!! (that was kinda lame... sorry 'bout that).

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at February 20, 2008 6:53 PM

Stacey Dash is tasty. She should go into the over-40 Hotness Hall of Fame.

Posted by: JP at February 20, 2008 7:45 PM

"Rosie's confidante is a chip-eating Mother Nature apparition played by Tracey Ullman"

No. This did not happen. You have to be making this up. I reject your reality!

Posted by: greer at February 20, 2008 8:47 PM

PaddyDog,

You're probably reading too much intelligence and forethought into my list. Leif Garrett, I don't know, just a loser who popped into my mind. Same goes for The Coreys (did anyone see the ad that Haim took out with his 'jonsing for a hit' scrawl?) Those two are scabs in human form.

Well, when talking about any Cor(e)y, one MUST defer to the greatest Corey of them all, the one who graces the cover of 'Non-Threatening Boys' magazine. And the same Corey who also has his own hotline for girls who are coming into their sexual awakening, but are really scared about it, 'Hounds of Love'-style.

He was featured pretty heavily in some early-era Simpsons episodes, but we really haven't heard from him since around 1994. Too bad, they could've done great things with him. I guess in the true spirit of a Corey, he got fat and volatile, with an overabundant sense of entitlement and...self worth.

Seriously, have you heard Corey Haim sing? I hope he feels badly about himself, and thinks he doesn't deserve happiness. There is a nauseating clip of him from his teen pop idol-wannabe heyday, performing on a Canadian teeny-bopper show, but I can't remember what is was. Maybe he was on Tarzan Dan, or Electric Circus, I just don't remember. It was prefaced by some laughably self-aggrandizing cluster-fuckery about his music and its aims, and was accompanied by dancing that would make the tarantella-like convusions of a person recently injected with a nerve toxin take notice and issue caution.

It was bad, you see.

Anyway, he sounds like someone wrapped a cat's vocal cords around a mighty oak, and cautioned it to 'Sing, SING!', lest it be sent to the salt mines...and by salt, I mean acid. Anyone who sings like that, while looking like that, should suffer humiliations galore, violent, tear-soaked nights, and...oops, looks like Father Time took care of that for me. And if any of you men or ladies were warm for his form back in the day, you weren't taking enough crack, and you should've opened your own eyes to the beady-eyed, rat-faced nobody who polluted your screens. As far as Haim goes: he's in such a sorry state, he doesn't need my derision.

Here's my derision: If I see you, I'll beat you to death with Lucas, and me and Kerry Green will laugh at your funeral, because you turned out to be an even bigger loser than Charlie Sheen. Apropos of nothing, I hope you are currently incontinent.

But back to the original (good) Corey. On his hotline, he would say empty-headed, but sweet little nothings for the girls on what were obviously pre-recorded tracks for a 1-900 number. Lisa suffered with an addiction to this hotline in one notable episode. He'd say things like:

'Hi, this is Corey. *pause* I hope you and I can get married someday!'

or,

'Hmmm, let's see what's in the news today. *newspaper shuffling* OH! Um...Canada stalls...on...trade...PACT.' (Which we probably would do)

or,

'Here are some things that rhyme with Corey: story allegory, Montessori...'.

So that's the story on that.

As for Feargal Sharkey, I don't know. I've had 'A Good Heart' stuck in my head, as well as that song by Fairground Attraction, you know,

'It's got to be, ye-ah...PER-FECT!
It's got to be, ye-ah...WORTH IT!
Too many people, take second best,
But I won't take anything less.
It's got to be, ye-ah...
PURR-ER-ER-ER-ER-ER-FECT!'

I'm going to take my vitamins now.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at February 20, 2008 9:30 PM

Shitsmeartastic!! You've made me snort my peppermint tea! And not in a good way! Damn, where's a napkin? Oh my God, that's funny.

Posted by: Lori at February 20, 2008 9:43 PM

perhaps michelle p should start showing some skin before we all lose interest in her sweet little ass.. the clock is ticking!!

Posted by: PASADENAMIKE at February 21, 2008 12:33 AM

Jo 'Mama' Besser >> can you let me in on what particular vitamins you've been taking? They are doing you some good, honey. Also, we Canadians can get 'em cheap, eh?

I'll pick them up after I drop my kid off at Montessori in the morning.

Posted by: Rebeccah at February 21, 2008 1:11 AM

You lay off "Johnny Dangerously"...

...Or else this is fargin war.

(The thing that finally inspired me to comment on this site is an insult of "Johnny Dangerously". Jesus.)

Posted by: dk at February 21, 2008 1:42 AM

I had no idea there were other people that disliked Graham Norton.

The mere idea that Clueless was an earnest attempt at portraying Valley Girls and not a satire sends shivers down my spine. Don't bring it up anymore, please.

Posted by: Adere at February 21, 2008 4:28 AM

Whatever, Dustin. I fucking love Tequila Sunrise. Its one of the worst scripts ever, but Michelle Pfeiffer, Mel Gibson, Kurt Russell AND Raul Julia. C'mon! Its totally materialistic 80's schlock and I love every minute of it.

Posted by: Finn at February 21, 2008 11:23 AM

I don't think you need to let Heckerling off the stupidity hook just for producing Clueless, because the entire plot is lifted straight from Jane Austen, who was a brilliantly subtle satirist.

Posted by: Laura at February 21, 2008 11:44 AM

Geeze I need to get to reading/commenting on these posts sooner rather than later. I need to stress the fact that Clueless was a reconceptualization of Emma. I don't think anybody gives it too much credit. If anything, the general public doesn't give it enough credit. It's fracking EMMA in a 90s HIGH SCHOOL ROM-COM. It's brilliant. They study this film in Master's of Literature programs around the nation...C'MON people.

Posted by: vinniedelpino at February 21, 2008 2:00 PM

I can't believe this movie was put on cinemas in Argentina, and went straight to DVD in the USA. How 3rd world country are we!
The saddest part was the poster: it read "Paul Rudd (Friends)", ouch!

Posted by: sol at February 21, 2008 2:48 PM

And what the hell is wrong with Married to the Mob?

Posted by: Adam C at February 21, 2008 6:06 PM

Rebeccah,

Nothing special, just a multivitamin and cod liver oil capsules. Don't laugh, it's good for you. And you can't taste it that way, just don't burp.

No, what you're seeing is a combination of sleep-deprivation, unearned righteous indignation, general sourness of attitude, student poverty, lone-wolf disorder, low caffeine levels, stress-induced ocean madness, ocean rudeness, boredom, hunger, maybe some kind of palsy, refined sugar-jones, let's say Seasonal Affective Disorder, and I'll bet there's a little touch of fairy dust in there too.

So, I'm betting it's nothing you'd want. But if any of those things gets you closer to giving the Coreys a serious old-fashioned-hippie-ass-whompin', by all means.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at February 22, 2008 1:52 AM

But... but... Michelle Pfeiffer in an Iron Maiden T-shirt? As an unashamed Maiden fanboy (I'm going to see them play their first arena show in the UK in a few months, where they will be playing only songs from their first seven albums), that's almost enough by itself to get me to watch this...

Posted by: Dill The Devil at February 22, 2008 9:57 AM

Stacey Dash is actually in her 40s, so is Michelle Pfeiffer, right..? Why make age an issue if he's going for someone 5 years younger and that's perfectly acceptable?
To the film's credit, they managed to get the hottest old people in the bizz. Maybe a sequel will have Diane Lane, Cate Blanchet and... Paul Rudd (he's the only baby-faced man that appeals to me).

Posted by: stara at February 24, 2008 5:52 PM





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