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In an effort to tie our review into the Grindhouse double-feature conceit, Dan and I have written separate reviews of each film. That said, while both Planet Terror and Death Proof work as individual movies (as most European markets will screen them), there is something to be said for the full, exhilarating, three-hour experience, complete with fake trailers, adverts, and crossover actors. And as good as each film is, it’s hard to imagine either film working independently as well as they do together, the way Rodriguez’s frenetic action-heavy splatterfest counterbalances Tarantino’s more character-driven, dialogue-rich, collision-and-revenge flick. In either respect, I wouldn’t recommend leaving after the first movie or showing up for the second; they’re both good, and the two together make perfect sense. Like chocolate and peanut butter, T&A, or blood and guts: One is fine, but the combination is downright sinful.

281x211.jpgPlanet Terror: Oh man: Fast cars, motorcycles, gratuitous close-up shots of cleavage, liquefied faces, grainy scratched-up film, oozing blood, caked-on blood, splattered blood, explosions of blood, goopy gore, zombies, melting genitalia, and Tom motherfucking Savini. I felt like I was 12 years old again, drinking milk, eating cookies, and trying to hold my head up at 3:00 in the morning just long enough to see the climactic torrent of blood that would eventually fill an entire screen with the apocalyptic decimation of the undead. And here I thought I’d gotten it all out of my system, that my adolescent weakness for crimson kablooey had dried up, but Robert Rodriguez brought it all back in a bleeding meat-shank of nostalgia, recalling Dawn, Day, Night, and Return of the Living Dead, Zombi 2, and Blood Feast and reigniting my own flicker of fanboyitis for an exhilarating, blood-drenched 90 minutes. Granted, Death Proof (reviewed below) is smarter, less showy, and probably has more mass appeal, but Planet Terror is for everyone who spent his or her teenage years thumbing through Fangoria and loitering in the aisle of the local video store, which always had the film you most wanted to see. Because no one else did.

But what we didn’t get back then was actual stars (Linnea Quigley notwithstanding), a decent budget, and the expertise of Robert Rodriquez. Indeed, Planet Terror is like watching a live concert of your favorite band cover the guiltiest pleasures of your childhood: Ben Folds doing “Living on a Prayer,” Modest Mouse cranking out “Pour Some Sugar on Me,” or the White Stripes covering Journey’s “Don’t Stop Believin’.” It’s bad (so bad), but it’s also so good.

Things get rolling with the opening credits, which play over the lingering close-ups of go-go dancer Cherry Darling’s (Rose McGowan, who has a certain Quigley-esque look about her) stripper-pole performance, which ends with her in tears. Like most of Terror’s flourishes, the tears are largely unnecessary detail; there’s little reason for them, given the already paper-thin nature of the film’s characters — fleshing out their personalities almost seems a wasteful exercise, given where most end up. Anyway, after Cherry’s date with the pole, she heads to a Barth-like diner known for its delicious BBQ, bad company, and unsanitary conditions. There, she runs into El Wray (Freddy Rodriquez), her estranged tow-truck driving boyfriend with a mysterious past, who gives her a ride back home. On the way, however, they are run off the road by a couple of goopy flesh-eaters, who pull Cherry from Wray’s wrecker and snap her leg off with their teeth before Wray scares them away with gunfire.

A chemical virus, let loose by Abby (Naveen Andrews) — a biochemical scientist/businessman who collects testicles — was responsible for the sudden rise in the small-town’s undead population. On a military base outside of town, an evil military man, Lieutenant Muldoon (Bruce Willis), attempted to buy Abby’s chemical stockpile (for reasons that have something to do with Osama Bin Laden; it’s funny, but not important), but the deal turned sour and the chemical was unleashed, infecting everyone around. That is, except for those like Cherry and Wray, who managed to avoid contamination, and others, like Muldoon and his soldiers, who wear gas masks and suck down a chemical that prevents their faces from bubbling like melting pizza cheese.

grindhouse-2.jpgThe other “plot” strand involves the deliciously evil Dr. William Block (Josh Brolin) and his bisexual, stereotypically naughty doctor of a wife, Dr. Dakota Block (Marley Shelton), who both work at the local hospital where the shit really starts to go down. It is there where Dakota’s ex-lover (Fergie) is brought into the ER and an orderly announces, “she’s a no-brainer,” on account of the zombies scooping out her brain (and, given the victim, it’s a two-pronged one-liner). Block then finds out his wife was sleeping with Fergie, so, in a fit of rage, he shoots her hands full of anesthetic, rendering them useless and comically limp. She escapes, but he is infected by a patient (Nicky Katt), who pops his blood pustules into his face.

And that’s the basic setup; the three strands combine and take the townspeople from hospital to diner to military base, where Muldoon is keeping them hostage until … well, it doesn’t really matter. Let’s just say that a military base is another brilliant set-piece that offers a lot of weaponry and plenty of ghouls with bubbly skin and soft heads, which esplode when punctured with ammunition. Also, it has helicopters, the propellers of which can be used for mass decapitations. Who knew? And it’s also where El Wray outfits Cherry with the now familiar machine-gun leg, which she uses with expected results. And yeah, it’s pretty goddamn awesome, even if the device feels slightly borrowed from a guitar case in Rodriguez’s own Desperado. But it’s hard to argue with a go-go dancer who mows down 50 zombies in a merry-go round motion and then blows the smoke off the barrel of her leg. And her hair never musses.

All in all, rather than injecting an annoying wink-wink hipster vibe to an old genre as I’d expected, I actually found that — aside from the Blackberries and cell phones — Planet Terror was every bit the faithful homage to Romero, Savini, Argento, George Armitage, Roger Corman, and their lesser-known colleagues; if those film are not your cup of tea, Terror may not do it for you, unless you have an inordinate fondness for exploding pustules. But in an era where most zombie movies offer subversive twists to the old formula (Shaun of the Dead, 28 Days Later, the upcoming Fido), it was actually refreshing to see one of the old-school variety. It’s a nonsensical bloody spectacle, aggressively supercharged, testosterone-laden, and adolescent as hell. And the 15-year-old id within me loved every second, even if my conscience felt a little guilty for it afterwards.

Intermission: I never thought I’d like anything Rob Zombie does — hell, I never thought I’d see a Rob Zombie film that didn’t give me the kind of screaming nightmares that aren’t even funny to think about a week later — but his trailer for the fictional Werewolf Women of the S.S. is easily the most entertaining thing he’s ever done. It’s part of the series of fake trailers sandwiched in and around Grindhouse, and it’s clear that the contributing filmmakers weren’t afraid to have fun and go for the camp with their ads for the kind of forgotten ’70s trash to which Grindhouse is a painfully loving ode. Edgar Wright’s ad for Don’t is a tongue-in-cheek clip that’s right in line with the director’s awesome Shaun of the Dead, and Rodriguez’s own ad for Machete is an equally hilarious clip, complete with knife fights and a weird threesome in a lake. In fact, all the trailers mix mild suspense with humor to great effect, except for Eli Roth’s ad for the fake Thanksgiving, which is about as sexually perverse as you’d expect from the guy who brought you Hostel and Cabin Fever, where a guy thought he was using his finger to stimulate a woman’s vagina, only to find he was rubbing an open sore. Mmm. Thanksgiving has the same kind of “girl parts are icky” vibe, including a scene on a trampoline that made me pray for temporary amnesia, but other than Roth’s wacky ol’ misogyny, the fake trailers attached to Grindhouse are just as entertaining as the features themselves. And I would totally go see Machete. Who’s with me?

dp1.jpgDeath Proof: Death Proof is the movie Quentin Tarantino has been waiting to make his whole career, and probably his whole life, and it’s absolutely fantastic. To watch it is to be gloriously shunted right into the man’s skittery, explosive id, where car chases and beautiful but deadly women spin in circles every second of every day while a blistering soundtrack of classic American movie themes and below-the-radar tunes from the past 40 years pours out of a battered jukebox in the corner. It’s not that his previous films weren’t also in line with this style; if anything, they helped lead him here. The one-two gut-punch of Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction (and the script for True Romance) gave Tarantino enough cinematic credibility to carry him through the leaner years of the overlooked but lesser Jackie Brown and the overlong Kill Bill epic, which upped Tarantino’s love of all things Tarantinian to an indulgence bordering on the masturbatory. But while Kill Bill was Tarantino’s exhausting ode to the martial arts flicks of his youth that also wanted really badly to be a good story about a strong heroine, Death Proof is a trim, lightning-fast story that’s nothing more than Tarantino doing what he does best for about 80 minutes: Riffing on a great idea.

The opening titles of Death Proof — originally released under another name, in one of the film’s many nods to its spiritual predecessors — unfold over a close-up of female feet propped on the dashboard of a car, idly bopping to Jack Nitzche’s “The Last Race.” Tarantino’s had a thing for feet for a while, but this time he’s enamored of the entire female body, transitioning from the credits to a loving (if slightly creepily so) shot following Jungle Julia (Sydney Tamiia Poitier), radio DJ, through her apartment wearing nothing but panties and a snug T-shirt. Soon enough she’s riding in the back of a car, legs luxuriously extended, while Shanna (Jordan Ladd) drives and Arlene (Vanessa Ferlito) rides shotgun as the trio cruises the streets of Austin. Tarantino’s a pop culture sponge, so it isn’t surprising that his recent collaborations with Robert Rodriguez have infused the first act of Death Proof with a deep love for the ATX, from the glances of the Alamo Drafthouse and Guero’s Taco Bar to the Texas Chili Parlor. From the car to the bar where the girls wind up, Tarantino’s film is an energetic departure from Rodriguez’s Planet Terror in that Tarantino actually down-shifts the action, content to let the story meander while the girls sit around and drink and get high. But the slower story is never dull, as Tarantino keeps the focus on the relationships of the girls and lets them talk and swig Shiner. And oh, does Tarantino have a thing for these women: Julia smokes out on the bar’s porch with her feet propped up on the low fence, and Tarantino captures every raindrop that runs back down her leg, just as he worshipfully frames Arlene’s gently thrusting pelvis as she dances by the jukebox. This is a man pretty much willingly at the mercy of these women, but he’s not (quite) reducing their strength to mere sexuality; it’s more that they are tough, vital women, and for Tarantino, part of that means wielding their sexuality like a weapon.

The film doesn’t even get scary when Stuntman Mike (Kurt Russell), a gravel-voiced older man with a scar down the left side of his face, starts flirting a little with Pam (Rose McGowan) at the bar and occasionally casting an eye over to Julia and the other girls. It’s as if Tarantino is intentionally waiting almost too long before assembling the characters into an actual story, but when he does, it gets intense quickly. Stuntman Mike gives Pam a lift home in his car, a tricked-out muscle car meant for stunt work, but as soon as she’s in the car, he stops pretending to be normal and simply advises her in a frighteningly conversational tone that she’d “better start getting scared.” And just like that, Tarantino makes the leap from atmospheric short film to terrifying thriller, sliding between the two with ease and grace. I’d rather not go into how the sequence pans out; just watch for yourself, and you’ll see what I mean.

dp4.jpgA year later, Stuntman Mike is in Tennessee, and winds up stalking another group of young women: Abbie (Rosario Dawson), Kim (Tracie Thoms), Lee (Mary Elizabeth Winstead), and Zoe Bell, playing herself. Kim and Zoe are stunt workers, and the four wind up test-driving a 1970 Dodge Challenger in an overt nod to Vanishing Point, one of the many films from which Tarantino culled the raw material for his own. One of the best scenes in the film is a continuous take of the foursome eating lunch at a diner while the camera gently circles them to capture their conversation, but also captures Mike eating casually at the bar before leaving. Tarantino is dangling the potential danger right in front of the victims, and it’s eerie. Mike eventually starts harassing the women while they’re driving the Challenger, resulting in some terrifying stuntwork from Bell, but the women wind up fighting back in a way Mike never anticipated. That they do so isn’t exactly a surprise; after all, after the almost throwaway first act and the plainest of introductions to the new bunch of characters, there wouldn’t be much of a film if they all just gave up and went home. But it’s another testament to Tarantino’s love of and respect for his female characters, however twisted that love might look in execution, that they are resolutely strong, unfailingly loyal, and ultimately unbreakable.

In addition to all that, Death Proof has a stylistic leg up on Planet Terror: While Rodriguez’s film never abandoned the look of scratched film negatives or poorly dubbed sound, Tarantino slowly phases out the gimmicks to focus on the story’s underlying suspense. It’s as if he wants to celebrate the good old days but also preserve whatever potency his film has in its own right, and it ultimately makes his film the slightly better of the pair, not because it takes itself too seriously, but because it never tries to force the joke. The music is equally fantastic, a mix tape of movie geekdom that includes Pino Donaggio’s “Sally and Jack” from Brian DePalma’s Blow Out and Eddie Beram’s “Riot in Thunder Alley” from, well, Thunder Alley. The whole thing is held together by Tarantino’s unshaking hand and relentless pursuit of the cheap American thrill-ride that’s informed his aesthetic from the beginning. And at that, the film is an unqualified success.

For better or worse, Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino love making movies, and love doing it their own way. I think it’s for the better. As collaborators, the pair of writer-directors influence each other to new and greater heights, from the slick and earnestly cornball neo-noir of Rodriguez’s Sin City, on which Tarantino co-directed some, to the epic experiment that is Grindhouse. They’ve created a world both proudly fictional and yet oddly real, as if performed by a troupe of actors accustomed to rotating roles in a series of pulp exploitation flicks. The line between the two films is blurry at best; Rose McGowan plays two distinctly different characters in each, yet Marley Shelton appears in both as the same character, as does Michael Parks, who appears as Sheriff Earl McGraw in both Planet Terror and Death Proof. The rabbit hole gets a little deeper when you realize that Parks also played McGraw in the Kill Bill films. It’s a blood-filled, profanity-laced, rocket-fueled blast of three solid hours, swinging from zombie flick to campy sex to straight-ahead action to psychological thriller without pausing for breath. Tarantino’s and Rodriguez’s half-films couldn’t exist without each other, since each half informs the whole experience. Taken individually, each brief feature is a graphic but heartfelt throwback; taken together, it’s an unforgettable ride, and the kind of movie that will likely inspire its own imitators a generation from now.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives with his wife in Ithaca, New York. You may email him, or leave a comment below.

Daniel Carlson is the managing editor of Pajiba and a low-level employee at a Hollywood industry magazine. You can visit his blog, Slowly Going Bald.


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Comments

Hey, Asshole, thanks for the shitty play-by-play of the entire fucking movie (saving me the trouble of properly enjoying it). Who knew that you were using Pajiba as a forum to release "Grindhouse, the Novelisation". Fucking prick.

Posted by: Spoiled Milk at April 6, 2007 10:19 PM

Wow--I just--wow. I have never heard you two so exuberant over anything before this. Those reviews are positively electric--apparently the film's effect goes home with people in pretty aluminium swans for handy retrieval.

As I am weak before 60s and 70s cinema of all stripes, exploitation, horror, Argento, Kurt Russell (who John Carpenter spent years grooming for this role!), zombies (who--don't you guys know?--OFTEN crop up around military bases?), Nicky Katt and even Bruce Willis when he's being arch, and as I never say no to a gaze or three at the luscious Naveen, I am like a metal shaving colliding inexorably with Soft Gamma Repeater 1806-20.

There's no two ways about it--goddamn you both if you've set my expectations too high.

Posted by: Ranylt at April 6, 2007 10:21 PM

Holy crap! A very positive review for a horror film on Pajiba? I never thought I would see this day...I'm sorry. I'm getting a little teary here. Sure, some of that positivity has to come from the directors of the film (cause the mentions of Roth and Zombie are predictably negative) but it's a start.

After that April Fools Joke where I thought that maybe I had more in common with the writers here than I thought (Sister Act IS awesome, ya'll, and don't you forget it, if for nothing else than the supporting cast), this is a good step forward.

Who am I kidding? The next horror film I enjoy is going to receive an awful review here, and I'll post a well thought out response, and then be heckled by people who hate horror films and told to go watch the TCM remake (which I hate).

Nothing was spoiled, Spoiled Milk. And if you think the plot is sophisticated enough that not learning every readily available detail about the film on the spot is detrimental to your enjoyment of it, I feel sorry for you. Truly.

Posted by: Robert at April 6, 2007 10:22 PM

Milk - if ya don't want to read in detail about the films don't read the damn blog - IDIOT

Posted by: Mic at April 6, 2007 10:25 PM

I've been waiting all day for this review, refreshing the homepage every thirty minutes, and holding my breath...just praying, PRAYING that it would say exactly what it said.

Off to the 11:00 pm showing at the Alamo Drafthouse. Much love to the Pajiba team for the review.

Posted by: Nancy at April 6, 2007 10:27 PM

Nice tage team guys. A verbally tight review and cannot wait to see it. The last double I went to was Re-Animator followed by Silver Bullet and a place that no longer exists in the Chicago area but that was a blast. Those two movies worked together and now it seems as though two guys on their collective game seem to have made me long for more Drive-Ins where I saw the Exorsist as a 4 year slumped down in the back seat of my parents 73 Monte Carlo.

Posted by: Rich at April 6, 2007 10:30 PM

Awesome. I've been talking about this movie like the geek that I am for some time now...so glad to hear that it's lived up to the hype.

I'm going to go watch something slick and violent and be smug and happy now. (and quietly resent the fact that grindhouse doesn't come out here for another month.)

Posted by: Anja at April 6, 2007 10:31 PM

I love love love love love love this movie!!!! I especially loved Death Proof and Zoe Bell is my new favorite actress. She was awesome on the car. Is it strange that I was slightly attracted to Stuntman Mike, and even felt for his character? I don't know how to deal with it.

Rodriquez is usually hit or miss for me, but this collaboration really changed my attitude towards him. He was really able to hold his own with a solid movie, coupled with a quintessential Tarantino flick. As Stuntman Mike would say, "I will take him out of my Chicken Shit list. He is OK in my book."

P.S. The movie was Cabin Fever in which the main character pleasured a sore. Mmmm...sexy

Posted by: Daisy at April 6, 2007 10:32 PM

Just saw Grindhouse this afternoon, I loved it! Most fun I've had at the movies in years. It's so fun and stays with you for a long time afterwards. Although, I'm gonna have to disagree with you guys on the Eli Roth trailer. The trailer for Thanksgiving was without a doubt, briliant and hilarious. I think I actually saw a turkey get raped. Whats not to love? I hate to say it but it was amazing.

Posted by: amy at April 6, 2007 10:37 PM

One last thing...did you notice that Sheriff Earl McGraw was Dr. Dakota Block's father?

I may be greedy, but I would eagerly welcome another collaboration from these two directors.

Oh, and to Spoiled Milk- Take it from someone who has seen this movie, there was so much more in this movie than discussed in the review. I know I will be seeing it again, because I am sure I missed those small tidbits you can only catch during a second viewing.

Posted by: Daisy at April 6, 2007 10:49 PM

just a question: isn't that scene that was described in this review from cabin fever, not hostel?

Posted by: danae at April 6, 2007 11:28 PM

saw the 10 pm showing in chicago last night, and i thought planet terror was absolutely hysterical in every way, and so were the trailers, but i gotta say, i was getting mighty bored during tarantino's segment....i think he took the whole "terrible dialogue and go nowhere plot, with some random action sequences interjected" way too far. i understand that most of the movies they are referencing were just like that... but then he had to do a show off scene with the endlessly revolving camera...which confused me. i thought the purpose was to make a throwback to bad movies, not try to show off your super duper camera skills. that whole scene bored me to tears. the action sequences were fantastic though, and kurt russell was pretty funny, though i didnt like the sudden shift in character at the end... but i really hated that wanda sykes wannabe... maybe im not a true exploitation fan, but planet terror was far more entertaining.

Posted by: jordan at April 6, 2007 11:30 PM

Wow... say what you will about the geeks on other forums, but they at least use spoiler warnings with great ease. Really, pretentious hipsters, it's not that hard.

Posted by: Nerd Nerdlinger at April 7, 2007 12:13 AM

Although I loved both movies, I'm going to have to agree with jordan. Planet Terror was by far the more entertaining of the two, easily one of my favorite movies in years. I'd go so far as to say that I would pay another nine bucks to see Rodriguez's awesome zombie flick again by itself. It was just that fucking awesome.

Death Proof was... well, probably the most bizarre movie I've ever seen. I thought it was also a great movie by itself (especially the first act), but the second half's looooooooooooooooooong diner table conversation was pushing it way too much. Granted, the action sequences were amazing when they finally came, and the ending was totally awesome, but the boring diatribe of dialogue in the middle made it almost not worth my while to sit through the entire thing. Almost.

Posted by: madams at April 7, 2007 12:20 AM

After my obligitory post-submission comment proofread, I realize now that I use the word 'awesome' (which is often found being used in conjuction with the word 'totally') way too much.

Posted by: madams at April 7, 2007 12:25 AM

Eli Roth is disgusting.

Posted by: Miranda at April 7, 2007 1:27 AM

Whoa. It's like you took everything I thought about the movie and put it in coherent, articulate review form.

Posted by: Anna at April 7, 2007 2:09 AM

I just got back from a packed theater which was full of cheering, clapping, LOUD laughter and many, many gasps of horror, revulsion and surprise. I can't remember when I've ever felt so satisfied with the value I got for my movie dollar. Planet Terror was hilarious gross-out camp, with laugh-out loud ridiculous dialogue to boot. Although Rodriguez did sneak in a moment of genuine emotion with the brothers. I might have shed a tear. And mmm, Sayid. Best bad movie ever.
Death Proof is a completely different beast, and your review is spot on. Tarantino worships these women, and we really are drawn into their world and relationships. It's so very jarring to downshift from that first act into the second, and I was kind of reluctant to go there, you know? But damn if I wasn't clenching muscles I didn't know I had during that road rageapalooza. If I could go gay, I would so be Zoe Bell's bitch.
Also, Eli Roth? Fucking disgusting, dude. See a therapist immediately.
Also, spoilerphobe dickheads? Please get up off your asses and see the fucking movie or don't go looking for reviews and then cry about it. Take some personal responsibility for your stupidity.

Posted by: greentara at April 7, 2007 2:37 AM

Oh, speaking of a rabbit hole, did you guys catch the Big Kahuna Burger namecheck? QT, you self-referential scamp, you.

Posted by: greentara at April 7, 2007 3:28 AM

Guess I'll be a first voice to take some issues with the substance of the review. But first I'll say that overall, I really enjoyed the film, and I'm not at all one to count myself among the throngs of Tarantino worshippers out there. I went to see a loud, retro, entertaining 70's drive-in double feature spectacle, and that's what I got. I'm a big fan of 70's movies, and I loved how they spent so much time on little details like replicating crappy film stock complete with scratches, jump cuts, sound errors, etc.

That being said, I think it was a very uneven 3+ hours. Planet Terror and all the prevues were fantastic. When it came to Death Proof, I noticed a sharp decline in quality. The problem was that once again Tarantino could not help but indulge himself in all his bad movie making habits to ridiculous levels. One of those being scenes of characters quibbling over pointless, boring minutia. Yes, that has always been his style, and yes, even though I cannot stand it and have never found these kind of scenes to be particularly witty, if he wants to stick them in his regular films thats his perogative. But the 5-10 minutes where characters detour into these boring bullshit sessions really killed all the energy from the first half. The genere is 70's drive-in B movie. That means action, action, skin, gore, action. Don't fuck up the formula just because you feel compelled to show off your character banter writing in every single one of your films.

Also, news flash, Tarantino, you suck at acting. It's bad enough that he always has to stick himself into his films, but at least keep it to an extra role with minimal screen time.

Beyond that, I thought that without Kurt Russel, Death Proof would have been just dead boring. I didn't find any of the other characters to be very interesting (no matter how easy on the eyes). I didn't think they treated Russel's character consistently either. It started out well with him being revealed to be some kind of obsessed, mentally-deranged, perverted stalker, but then they downgraded him into more of a whiny asshole at the end. He becomes more of a jerk than a deeply psychotic individual. Tarantino's portion would have been improved by some serious cutting and re-editing.

Bottom line though, even with the flaws of the second act would I see Grindhouse again and recommend it to my friends. Absolutely!

Posted by: dw at April 7, 2007 4:04 AM

I can't wait.


On another note, Dustin, you might want to change "28 Days" to "28 Days Later" in your reference to zombie movies with a twist. Mind you, having zombies in it certainly would have improved that Sandra Bullock crapfest of a movie. But I don't think that's what you meant.

Noted and corrected. The old classic Pam Beesly mistake.

Posted by: Lyric at April 7, 2007 4:21 AM

Well well. Loved loved loved Planet Terror, and the previews were awesome. I'm surprised no one had more to say about the "Don't" preview. Aside from Zombie's hilarious one, 'Don't' was pretty much the funniest trailer I've seen. It was a laugh a second, and I wanna see the movie :(

Sorry Daniel, I really really was not impressed by Death Proof. I was actually even more underwhelmed than I thought I'd be. There were times (especially in the beginning, how long can it take for the action to start?) when I wanted to find a remote control and hit fast forward. The second half was solid, the car scene was epic and absolutely awesome beyond all reason... but the first half should have been cut completely, in my opinion. Seems rather... like pretty-looking, 'clean' fluff.

What I loved about Planet Terror is that no minute was wasted; I could have seen more of it happily, and further explored Cherry and Wray's lives, I genuinely adored them. Tarentino prides himself on his characters, and yet Rodriguez created the most memorable characters in all of Grindhouse; what gives, Quentin?
In Death Proof, he could have easily sliced off 45 minutes of that clunker, and it would've been an amazing and tight movie.

I don't know... the sad thing is, I normally love Tarentino movies. But Death Proof, well... easily one of the more dull movies of his career, despite a scene that is arguably the best one he's ever filmed. Le sigh.

Posted by: AD at April 7, 2007 5:29 AM

My two cents: Reviews are meant to be read BEFORE you see a movie and therefore should go light on revealing the plot. Readers have a right to get huffy if too much is spilled because, in some cases, they're reading the review to decide if they want to see the film. It's tough for the reviewer to know how much plot to explain and how much to hold back in order to give his/her opinion. The "Planet Terror" review gave away a bit too much, I think, although I agree with Daisy that plenty of fun, shocking moments weren't mentioned. That's just my opinion as a former movie reviewer for a mid-sized daily newspaper.

That said, I agree with many of the comments above: "Death Proof" had interesting moments but too much pointless talky-talk. I think it was hurt by following "Planet Terror," which was non-stop action. I couldn't help but get a bit restless during the meandering conversations after the non-stop bang-crash-whiz of Rodriguez's film. Still, I had more fun in watching this in the theater yesterday than I've had in any movie in recent memory.

Posted by: SBN at April 7, 2007 11:09 AM

reviewer seems to revel in the semen stained ghetto that is tarantino. hopelessly self indulgent garbage.

Posted by: Rorschach at April 7, 2007 11:21 AM

In their Defense, they really loved the movie(s) so I don't blame them for going so deep into the pulpy matter of Grindhouse. I was in a rush while reading the review, so I read it, but not all of me was reading so I just remember that Dustin and Daniel said the whole movie is like a orgasm of gore and thrills. Which, when executed rightly makes a good film.
Too bad I'm stuck taking a 10 year old to Meet the Robinsons instead of seeing this movie. Le Sigh.

Posted by: Ben at April 7, 2007 11:43 AM

Wow. Reading that made me way more excited for this than I was before. Although I'm pissed that the intermission material is good, because I was planning on using that time to go have a cigarette but I guess if it's worth watching I should stay and watch (:

Posted by: Katie at April 7, 2007 11:46 AM

Got to agree with the comments that Death Proof was weak. It had parts that were entertaining, but the first half's pacing was such an energy drainer after Planet Terror and the trailers.

And also kind of agree with the complaints about the details in the Planet Terror review. Yes, some plot should be explained in a review. And sure, the point of this movie isn't really the plot itself. But still, I'm not sure it was necessary to go so in-depth on the plot, to get your point across. A little self-indulgent (and I think you got at least one plot point wrong...psuedo-spoiler warning...the army guys aren't sucking down another chemical to prevent becoming pus-bags, they're sucking down the same chemical).

But everyone should still see this movie.

Posted by: Steven at April 7, 2007 12:06 PM

I hated Death Proof and found it horrendlously boring. Zoe Ball's accent was grating. The long discussion scenes were badly paced. I'll just say this though


TARANTINO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? COOL. STOP APPEARING IN MOVIES. PLEASE. YOU ARE A REALLY ANNOYING ACTOR. AND THAT PANT-DROPPING SCENE? PLEASE STOP. Thanks,

KKT

Posted by: KKt at April 7, 2007 12:16 PM

Yeah, I don't really care that Rodriguez is an "artist". Planet Terror sounds like shit, frankly, and if anyone else directed it you would be ridiculing the absurdity of Rose McGowan (Rose McGowan...best known for being Marilyn Manson's ex and the star of the WB's "Charmed"...) shooting pustule-covered zombies with a machine gun as a leg.
Maybe it is just my personal inibilatily to see the appeal. I thought Sin City was crap and sick, but at least it looked really good. I'll pass Pajiba.

Posted by: Al at April 7, 2007 12:34 PM

KKT: You know why Zoe Bell did such a great job w/ her NZ accent? She plays herself in the movie. So I guess that means you find NZ accents "grating" in general.

Also: for the posters who thought the breakfast scene was a waste of time - it was essential for character building. Every thing they talked about related to later events. If you don't know or care about the personalities of the "victims" then what's the point? QT's pacing was perfect, in my opinion, just not what you might expect if you just want to see some T&A get blown up just for the sake of watching it.

Posted by: trillion at April 7, 2007 1:39 PM

If you liked the trailer, imdb actually lists Machete as being in pre-production...

Posted by: spielcat at April 7, 2007 2:49 PM

I want to see Machete more than any other movie in the works right now. "You fucked with the wrong Mexican."

Gold

Posted by: the_Wakeful at April 7, 2007 3:41 PM

This. Movie. Sucked. Balls.

I went to see it simply because everyone on this site has been pushing it for the last 4 months, and never have I been more dissappointed. OMG it's blood and titties everyone! Be offended! Please. I stopped paying attention about half way through Planet Terror and focused on trying to get the last Junior Mint out of the bottom of the box (it was somehow wedged down there).

ps. Quentin Tarentino is a narcississtic hack who has made a total of two good movies over ten years ago and has been spitting out garbage ever since.

Posted by: i want my 7.50 back at April 7, 2007 5:17 PM

Dear Trillion,

I knew Zoe Bell came from NZ and her accent is grating like all the accents from NZ. Simple as that! "What is the point" indeed. Face it: Death proof is not beautifully paced, it's horribly bad, bland and boring. To each his own, I guess.

Posted by: KKt at April 7, 2007 6:33 PM

Dear KKt
It's a shame you can't appreciate the delicate art of pacing. For the sake of your lover, you might want to reconsider that stance.

Also, discounting an entire nation's natural accent? Classy, you bigot.

Posted by: Rebecca H. at April 7, 2007 7:25 PM

It seems there is another analogy for the two types of people on this earth...

"There are people who like Planet Terror, and people (the smart ones who are not impressed by constant blood and guts) who like Death Proof."

Posted by: Daisy at April 7, 2007 8:15 PM

"and plenty of ghouls with bubbly-skin and soft heads, which esplode when punctured with ammunition."


i am hoping the nod to "esplode" has to do with King of the Hill, and isn't just a typo.

Posted by: m.k. at April 7, 2007 9:07 PM

I wanted to watch a Grindhouse movie. So Planet Terror rocked hard. Deathproof sucked some balls, and I want to see Thanksgiving!
And I love blood and titties.

Posted by: Joanna at April 7, 2007 9:44 PM

I'm a huge fan of splatter-fests like Planet Terror, but found myself preferring Death Proof far more. Overall, however, they were a fantastic pair and I wouldn't trade my time or money spent on Grindhouse for anything else.

Definitely some of the best fun I've had in the theater.

Posted by: Anonymous Skull at April 7, 2007 9:56 PM

WOW!!!! I just saw grindhouse and what a blast, by far the best movie or movies I can recall seeing in years. I have always thought that QT and RR were great directors, but this was some mad shit. I can't wait for QT and RR next movie.

Posted by: my bottom hoe at April 7, 2007 10:21 PM

LOVED "Grindhouse". I think both reviews were spot on, from my perspective.

"Planet Terror" was an exercise in excess, with all the trappings of a '70's grindhouse flick. My only problem with it (and mind you, in no way did it detract from my enjoyment of it) was that it seemed like it was TOO successfully ambitious for a low-budget 70's flick. TOO good, and it seemed like it had an extremely high budget (all the "reel missing"s, scratched film stock, and audio/video inconsistencies aside) for a supposed "grindhouse" flick. But hey, no complaints from me.

And Dustin...you name checked Savini, Argento, and Romero, but where's the love for Fulci? Yes, I know, you dropped "Zombi 2" in, but you gotta give Fulci his nomenclature-atorial due. Several scenes from "Planet Terror" were lifted directly from Fulci movies. In fact, I'm about to go start watching "The Beyond" for the 20th time.

The trailers were awesome, though I think Zombie's "Werewolf" trailer was a little bland and uninspired. "Thanksgiving" was AWESOME, and I don't even like Eli Roth. But Michael Biehn's, "That SON OF A BITCH" line in the trailer was CLASSIC. And I'd see "Machete" and "Don't" in a second were they actual films.

I won't go into it much, but I agree with Pajiba's take on "Death Proof". I expected not to like it, because the synopsis sounded so bland (even though I have a man-crush on Kurt Russell). But I thought it was fantastic, self-indulgent dialogue aside (and that didn't even bother me that much). Russell's Stuntman Mike is one of the most simultaneously disturbing, charming, evil, and ultimately PUSSY serial killers to come along in years. And it shows that Tarantino can actually direct action, as I was on the edge of my seat for the entire final car chase sequence.

So anyway, anyone with a passing interest in cinema should see "Grindhouse". And if you're a Fulci fan, you will be wishing the man were still alive to remake "Planet Terror". Seacrest out.

Posted by: idiot dentist at April 7, 2007 10:53 PM


oh, and Dustin...

"But what we didn't get back then was actual stars (Linnea Quigley, notwithstanding), a decent budget, and the expertise of Robert Rodriquez. Indeed, Planet Terror is like watching a live concert of your favorite band cover the guiltiest pleasures of your childhood: Ben Folds doing "Living on a Prayer," Modest Mouse cranking out "Pour Some Sugar on Me," or the White Stripes covering Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'." It's bad (so bad), but it's also so good."

It simply could not have been summed up any better than this. All reviews of "Planet Terror" could contain this paragraph and all other information would be obsolete. Kudos.

Posted by: idiot dentist at April 7, 2007 10:55 PM

Planet Terror was great, although I found myself getting bored with it an hour in.

Death Proof, however... Death Proof is amazing. Kurt Russell knocked it out of the damn ballpark. He is maybe the most entertaining element in the entire 3+ hours.

Death Proof > Planet Terror

C'mon folks. Let your horror-boners cool off for awhile and be honest.

Posted by: tk at April 8, 2007 2:38 AM

Hmm, the reviews from other sites (shock! awe! I read other sites!) are fairly consistent with yours. Many thought Planet Terror was kickass, knockdown, dragout action, while Death Proof was more low-key.

Daisy: Your categories are a bit unfair. They should break down like this:

Those who liked Planet Terror;
Those who liked Death Proof;
Those who hated both.

It seems to be virtually impossible to find someone who liked both. No "i preferred this one to that one" or any other gladhanding. Just one person to say "I liked both." Ah, the magic of movies.

Posted by: Vermillion at April 8, 2007 10:18 AM

Dear Rebecca H,

I see that you like the NZ accent, as do many others. It is simply a matter of taste, not of bigotry. Some people find Dutch one of the ugliest languages on the face of the earth, it is also a matter of taste. I appreciate your concern for my lover (!?) but to me, the pacing of Death Proof was horrendous. Once again, let's agree to disagree! I do hate political correctness. I've only lived in America for a few months but many people openly deride certain Southern accents. I did not in any way say that NZ people were stupid or religious maniacs. I simply said that I found their accent grating. Happy Easter, everyone.

KKt

Posted by: KKt at April 8, 2007 10:32 AM

I absolutely loved the whole experience beginning to end, save for two exceptions: Roth's cringeworthy trampoline scene and the somewhat-too-long diner dialogue in Deathproof. Near perfect pacing for the entire 3 hours and a ridiculous yet ridiculously satisfying ending.

However, and I'm not the first person to say it, SPOILER WARNINGS dammit! And before someone else pipes in with an equally perplexing comment ala:


"Take some personal responsibility for your stupidity."


SBN beat me to it; I sure as hell don't read reviews to tell me whether or not I enjoyed the movie I JUST saw. While you certainly didn't give away the whole movie there was some unnecessary detail given.

Posted by: gravyboat at April 8, 2007 11:19 AM

I am one of those who can't decide between the two - to take one or both out of context seems like treason; both together made a fucking awesome shit sandwich.

And Death Proof made me proud to be a girl, inexplicably... I wonder what fun things they'll do with the DVD.

Posted by: Sarah at April 8, 2007 11:40 AM

One other thing that I forgot to mention, did no one else like the 'Hobo With A Shotgun' trailer? Maybe it wasn't the best, but it was still pretty good.

Posted by: gravyboat at April 8, 2007 12:05 PM

"And I would totally go see Machete. Who's with me?"
Just wait a little while.
[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0985694/]

Posted by: eb at April 8, 2007 3:52 PM

just please tell me it's a hundred thousand times better than from dusk til dawn.

Posted by: matt at April 8, 2007 4:17 PM

Grindhouse was a pleasure to watch. As Tarantino said in an interview, you're not just renting a seat when you go to this movie.

As other people have pointed out, Death Proof has a whole lot of dialogue and relatively static scenes - but that's much closer to the Z-grade films that I remember than the tightly packed Planet Terror. Rodriguez may have scratched up the print, but it's actually less like a Grindhouse flick than Death Proof.

SBN: "Readers have a right" not to have spoilers sprung on them in reviews? What precisely do you imagine the writers of Pajiba owe you? Unlike the readers of newspapers or magazines, you're not paying for the content here. You may say that readers have a reasonable expectation to certain things. But a right? I'm not so sure about that. Now that I think about it, Spoiled Milk's "Hey, Asshole" comment may be more appropriate, although I don't think there's much to spoil in these films.

By the way, [SPOILER] did anyone else notice that the women's triumph at the end of Tarantino's film is necessarily a bit short-lived, since the interweaving of the two films implies that the world of Death Proof is about to be overrun by the chemical zombies of Planet Terror? [/SPOILER] Just saying.

Posted by: palinode at April 8, 2007 5:28 PM

I'm usually not so picky, but you've taken his statement out of context palinode. What he said was "Readers have a right...to get huffy if too much is spilled because, in some cases, they're reading the review to decide if they want to see the film." And they certainly do have a right (and reasonable grounds) to be mad.

Neither do I buy that Pajiba (and I realize none of the Pajiba writers were the ones to say it) isn't the least bit accountable to its readership even if we don't directly pay them.


So I think I'm done squabbling now...

Posted by: gravyboat at April 8, 2007 10:48 PM

Four words for the entirety of Grindhouse:

Best movie ever made, ever.

Posted by: dood at April 9, 2007 12:48 AM

Fuck yeah, I'm totally down for some MACHETE!!! That movie would seriously kick ass. I was a little disappointed that the trailer was fake.

Posted by: bev at April 9, 2007 2:51 AM

wasn't the preview for "Hobo with a shotgun" the winner at the SXSW festival in Austin? so including it in Grindhouse is RR's shout out to Austinites. word.

Posted by: Sarah at April 9, 2007 6:54 AM

Just like Borat, this is more than likely an over-hyped handjob of something masquerading as film. I don't mean to bemoan the state of American Film, but that film-makers would go out of their way to create an homage to sub-par films is pathetic and a total waste of time. What a tool Tarantino is, what mis-guided fools are those who adore him.

Posted by: joebobbriggs at April 9, 2007 8:14 AM

Awww, joebobbriggs, it's ok.
Sounds like someone needs Santa to bring them their Weenie Whistle.

It's ok to have fun.

Posted by: Bucko at April 9, 2007 10:40 AM

Joebobriggs I kind of agree. I like Tarantino and I will probably enjoy this film, but I don't understand the worship.

Posted by: soda at April 9, 2007 11:10 AM

Planet Terror: Enjoyed immensely, even the missing reel gag.

Deathproof: No connection between the two halves of the movie, and even 'Stuntman Mike', the only connection, seemed different. Give me something to work with here, Quenton. Deathproof really shined when Stuntman Mike began playing cat and mouse in the first half all the way up through the crash. I kept waiting for the cat and mouse to start in the second half.... and waiting... and waiting. Oh...look! Cars!!!

Posted by: Spike at April 9, 2007 11:31 AM

and yet "Are We Done Yet?", a film you gentlemen wouldn't even deign to review beats it in the box office. lament for the wretched state of cinema...

Posted by: the-ian at April 9, 2007 11:38 AM

I must say that the Office refence in the CORRECTIONS note made my day. JAM on.

Posted by: Christy at April 9, 2007 11:45 AM

We got to see this at the drive in, it was 85 degrees in Seattle, just a perfect environment for this. Great review and couldn't agree more, the best movie going experience I've had in a long time!

Posted by: Kristyne at April 9, 2007 11:53 AM

In my theater they actually had to put up a sign saying that the missing scenes and the scratchy picture were intentional. There's a lot of morons out there.

Posted by: Tron at April 9, 2007 12:47 PM

Actually, "Hobo with a shotgun" was created by a couple of Nova Scotians from up here in Canada. :3

Posted by: Heather at April 9, 2007 1:18 PM

I am a long time fan of low-grade movies (DVD collection 3000+), and I went to the opening show. Loved Planet Terror, was bored to tears by Death Proof. Shocked my wife by asking her to leave before the end; I have NEVER done that before. Tarantino can make some extremely good films, but I think he has become too cool for school now, as the dialogue he wrote was insipid and lame. I will buy the DVD, but only so I can fast forward to the car chases, and skip the rambling, stream of consciousness crap. Would that he had made a movie from one of the trailers they conconcted.

Posted by: stiffdoc at April 9, 2007 3:09 PM

I agree with Spoiled Milk's message, if not his delivery. You don't usually spend so much time recapping plot points in your reviews, why start now, with this movie? Makes little sense to me.

Posted by: Roger at April 9, 2007 3:52 PM

We have a drive-in theatre here in lovely Santa Cruz CA and I'm delighted they are showing Grindhouse as a double feature! We're loading up the pickup truck, putting some Mad Dog on ice, and heading out Wedneday night.

People are so silly being upset about plot point give-aways. It's not like this is freakin' Chekov here, people! The plot is secondary to the viscera.

Posted by: debkakes at April 9, 2007 6:15 PM

I love me a zombie movie and I really love me some Kurt Russell. He's da man...

RE spoilers: you're entitled to be annoyed, but if you got to the first one and then continued reading the extremely long review, it's sorta your fault. Besides, it's a zombie flick and a revenge fantasy. Not much plot to ruin there. So calm the fuck down. Jeez...

Posted by: LL at April 9, 2007 8:12 PM

I can't believe that some people liked the ad for Thanksgiving. That's not a Turkey getting raped, but a dead naked woman stuffed like a freaking turkey.

I fall on the Death Proof side of goodness.

Posted by: Psyke at April 9, 2007 9:11 PM

hey

i LOVED your reviews-- and i thought the whole grindhouse series was totally kick-ass!! loved it!
i was lucky enough to work on the rob zombie trailer-- and was thrilled that my footage actually ended up in the final footage! (im one of the 2 werewolf women- and you see us 3 times for about 2 seconds each time)-- but even that was more than i was expecting, since rob shot about 30 hours of amazing footage of so many name actors for his 3 minute trailer!
i really hope he makes the full feature- cause it was soo deliciously twisted and fun!
xo
lorielle

Posted by: lorielle at April 9, 2007 9:17 PM

Wow!!! Haven't commented in a while, but couldn't resist this one. Loved both flix. Saw it three times (all mattinees) over the weekend; first time solo, seated fairly close to the screen, second time a little further back with a male friend, third time with a female friend, next to back row. The third time was enough for a while, though that could be due to the loud, whiny, moron behind me who couldn't handle having to pay attention to some dialogue, and didn't understand that the grainy stock, missing reels, and various other tidbits were all part of the show.
Planet Terror actually made it look like QT could act, given some direction. He was a fairly convincing, typical, knuckle-headed rifle-jockey. A nice contrast to the whiny bitch he's always been in every other cameo. "And I've been to Morocco!"
I so love Rose, and it appears QT does to, with her appearance in both flix and the tattoo on "Butterfly's" left elbow. I've been a fan since, "Doom Generation", but checked out when she moved to "Charmed." I just couldn't stomach the premise.
Death Proof, "howevah" was my favorite of the two. The pacing was necessary to really fuel the desire to see the conclusion. Without the, albeit, droning first act (Though for me, the only reason it was hard to get through, was because I really don't find any of the women in the first act attractive. And, as for Julia having a big ass,PLEASE! Everyone of those girls, in both films, apart from the crazy babysitter twins and Kim, had a backwithacrack perpetrating as a nice ass. Not that's the standard of a woman's worth, but if you gonna talk about a big ass...), we wouldn't have been as thrilled to see the conclusion we saw. It also set the contrast between the tough guy persona that Stuntman Mike projected, and the real deal we see in the end.
As for the trailers, Machete and Thanksgiving take the cake. I loved the fact that they were equally extreme in different ways.
I also loved all the references to previous Tarantino props, from the Red Apple smokes to the Big Kahuna burger. I also liked the way he slipped an ad in for the Tex-mex place, whose cups "the girls" were sipping from in the first act of Death Proof.
I think the reason I liked Death Proof more than Planet Terror was because DP had resolution, whereas PT was more ethereal when it came to a conclusion. Plus, DP's insane car scene was worth the price everytime! I hope we don't see a rash of idiots paying the price for attempting to re-enact that scene.
I also loved the not so subtle jab at TN. Having been an out-of-state college student here for the last four years, it was really vindicating.

Posted by: newmillenniumcraka at April 10, 2007 12:10 AM

Machete is coming out straight to DVD. All y'all prepared?

Posted by: wee at April 10, 2007 1:28 AM

Just saw the films last night. I thought Planet Terror was fantastic. Death Proof had potential, but got dragged down with Tarantino's incessant references (yes, I know Vanishing Point is a good film; no, I did not need to hear an entire discussion about it during the movie). I did not feel like there was any character development AT ALL in that film - they were flat, two dimensional characters, and no diner conversation ala Tarantino could fix that.

The problem with Zoe Bell was not her accent, it was the fact that she can't act. I spent the whole first part of that section of the film trying to find out why in the hell they cast her, until the obvious stunt driving made me realize that she is a stuntwoman, not an actress. Then again, maybe no actress could have saved the ridiculous dialogue coming out of her and everyone else's mouths. The stunts were amazing, and I give her high praise for that, but nothing else.

The black female characters were offensive, and not because "they were made to be," but because Tarantino had to throw in "n-gga please" all over the place in the most awkward moments. Not one of the female characters seemed remotely real - all I could see were actors, not characters. And I loved Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown, and both Kill Bills. This film pushed the boundaries of how much pointless talk I can stomach before leaving the film. Kurt Russel is the only reason I stayed at all. He was fantastic. The sad thing, is that I admired both directors for using female protagonists. But while all the conversation in Planet Terror was made to be funny, in Death Proof, it took on an uncomfortable overwritten tone that made the film into a film students' wet dream.

Posted by: Robby at April 10, 2007 3:46 PM

Have to agree with spoiled milk, this isnt a review, its a detailed synopsis. Reviews critique, compare, contrast, deconstruct, put in perspective, etc. You don't know how to review films, obviously, you're just regurgitating that plot, that's why this is one of the longest reviews I've ever read and it contsins the least insight. Mr. Cranky has more perspicacity than you.

Posted by: darcy_lane at April 11, 2007 8:37 AM

Those movies are awesome. They're not perfect, but I think it is clear that it precisely wasn't the point. I think I would have appreciated some 15 minutes (of PT) and 45 minutes (of DP) to be shorter, but who am I to say? Maybe it wouldn't work without the dialogues.

P.S. Much to my surprise, the local cineplex now have $4.95 thursdays instead of the usual mega-flat-rate! So that makes it the official best five bucks I've ever spent in my entire life.

Posted by: Sunsneezer at April 11, 2007 9:56 AM

"overlooked but lesser Jackie Brown"

Psh. I can't even give you credit for preferring the good half of this one after that line.

Posted by: milo at April 11, 2007 10:44 PM

Just left after walking out of Tarantino's half of the film. I guess if you like misogynistic, woman-slaughtering fests then yeah, it really was fantastic.

But I'll take Rodriguez's half over Tarantino's any fucking day.

Posted by: chriso at April 13, 2007 2:14 AM

"Just left after walking out of Tarantino's half of the film. I guess if you like misogynistic, woman-slaughtering fests then yeah, it really was fantastic."

Misogynistic? You probably should have stayed for the end.

Posted by: Duffy at April 14, 2007 3:54 PM

Something is wrong here. This film is getting rave reviews everywhere, yet it's tanking miserably at the BO. I cannot judge the film itself as I haven't seen it yet, but it is hard to figure, given that it would appear to be an appealing flick for the masses.

Posted by: Adam at April 14, 2007 3:55 PM

Planet Terror tried hard to be a cheesy bad movie and was successful. Death Proof, while dialogue heavy, uses a pulpy premise but plays it straight so it works. The final 20 minutes of Death Proof are so good you walk out of the theater jazzed. I'll watch Planet Terror at home to see the missing reel (funny joke, but not more than once), I'll BUY Death Proof because it kicked ass.
I'll just mute Eli Roth. He was by far the worst part of that movie and I was hoping dearly Stantman Mike was going to run him over at some point. Who wants to bet he wrote his own dialogue for that scene?

Posted by: Rob at April 14, 2007 6:42 PM

I loved it, but put me in the Planet Terror camp. It was honest, simple gory proof that KISS is sometimes the best principle, particularly when you are trying to sell an action movie about frigging zombies. Death Proof on the other hand was a comedown, too unevenly paced for me to give any more than a pass. Tarantino was sliding into loving-his-own- farts territory with the Kill Bill films and DP had a bit too much of the stench. It would have worked better if it had preceded PT for mine.

As for GH's box office performance, the movie focusses on recreating a cinematic culture that, whilst influential, is ultimately a fringe interest to mainstream film goers. I love Romero et al, but I also know what a select bunch of fans I am a part of. There are very few people in my acquaintance through family, work, neighbourhood etc that I could imagine wanting to see this sort of film.
This stuff was great because it WASNT mainstream, so it is hardly surprising that it isn't doing a roaring trade

Posted by: Dave Shepherd at April 14, 2007 9:32 PM

The husband and I saw it tonight. Could not stop laughing at the trailers, and the husband? Was like a little boy during the first flick. Love love huge major love.

Unfortunately, we walked out of the second flick, before the first girl got in Kurt Russell's car. Now we wish we hadn't--we totally forgot it gets crazy right after that.

Still and all--the only critique I have is that after the first film, it's very hard to downshift to the slow pace of the second. The girls (the first set) were BORING as hell.

"This time, they fucked with the WRONG Mexican!" HILARIOUS. I'd go see Machete in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Kathy at April 14, 2007 10:50 PM

This was the most fun I've had at a movie in years. And I really fucking want Machete to be made into a real movie. Cheech's line as the priest made me so happy.

Also, I loved the line "That's as useless as a pecker on a pope" in Planet Terror

Posted by: Joe at April 15, 2007 9:03 PM

It seems to be virtually impossible to find someone who liked both. No "i preferred this one to that one" or any other gladhanding. Just one person to say "I liked both."

I loved both equally, Vermillion, for different reasons. I am so glad I saw them in the theatre, smacked together, on the big screen that way. Like a lot of other posters, and the reviewers, I have to say it was one of the best times I've ever had in a theatre. Big goofy grin on my face the whole three hours--and Mr. Ranylt did not stop guffawing in shock and cinematic joy.

The Rob Zombie trailer is probably even better when you've seen "Night Porter," which Zombie obviously has. Good God, that was perfect (laced with a dash of Kier, to boot). And surely "Death Proof" is a little richer if you've got not just "Vanishing Point" under your belt (which I don't) but also rape/revenge or invincible-she camps (especially "Faster, Pussycat.") I'm the first to say a work of art can't rely solely on intertext/homage to make it, but "Grindhouse" as a package just...wow...the intertext is just one part of the fun for me, however "clever" it was designed to make me feel; I got off way more on the action, the humour, the cast (!!!), the dialogue (!!) and the laudable structure of both films. These geeks know how to make movies--it took them years to win me over (especially His Irritatingness, Mr. T) but they've each made enough films that sing for me, at this point, so I must yield no matter how out of fashion it is to do so.

And I have to agree with trillion about the point of the dialogue scenes in DP--Tarantino's mirror structure was great, and I'm not sure I would have been half as nailed to my seat during the second part of the film if those earlier scenes hadn't come before. It really worked for me and my clan, anyway. And Zoe Bell has my esteem.

Finally, I knew Nicky Katt was in this and I still didn't recognize the boy...man, he disappears.

Posted by: Ranylt at April 15, 2007 10:39 PM

"Barth-like"?

Was that a You Can't Do That on Television reference?

"daahhhhh... what do you think is in the burgers?"

Posted by: JH at April 16, 2007 2:21 PM

I caught this yesterday before it left theatres, and I'm glad I did - it's really something that needs to be seen in a movie house as opposed to DVD. I'm too young to have been part of the grindhouse culture, but I can appreciate what's being done here, and I got a major kick out of it.

It's not really the content of the movies themselves that make it so much fun, it's the whole presentation; the double-feature conceit, the grungy aesthetic, and the unapologetic approach to sexploitation and gore.

I really enjoyed both movies, but I enjoyed Planet Terror a bit more. Although I agree that Death Proof's dialogue and buildup was necessary to give the climax that extra punch, I still think it was a bit too longwinded for its own good. Both films had some pacing problems, in my opinion. On the whole, though, Grindhouse was three hours of bloody adolescent fun, and $6.50 well spent.

Posted by: Mentalepsy at May 1, 2007 1:57 PM

Personally I left during Death Proof and didn't like it at all. Too much "bitch" this and "mother fucker" that. Too much talk, not enough action. I loved Planet Terror though!

Posted by: Rachel at May 4, 2007 2:05 PM

i loved tarantino's piece in this movie, rodriguez was good too, i laughed a lot.
but, to idiot Jordan, no way i found the dialogues tiresome, everythings was so exciting, i knew something very thrilling was waiting to happen, of course all that atmosphere of quietness is to entertain and distract the viwer until something very shocking happens.

i liked it so much i watched 3 times, mainly the 2nd movie, and the actresses, all of them, fabulous, mainly jungle julia, abbie, kim and butterfly (so hilarious).

Jose

Posted by: jose at May 7, 2007 8:04 PM

wow, i'm appalled at the criticism tarantino received for his part of the movie, cause it was the one that made me impressed most.

he absoluteyl kicks ass, rodriguez would be dead boring to see twice. the only part that i loved much as the moment that the woman flies in the sky shooting with her gun.

well, by what i have read so far from these comments, i think that the IDIOTS tend, those with mediocre intelligence, tend to prefer Rodriguex' movie, as the ones that care more about other elements and not idiotism, tend to love much better tarantino's.

absolutely fantastic tarantino's deathproof.

Posted by: jose at May 7, 2007 8:21 PM

other thing, i loved the NZ accent of the stuntwoman.
i loved their roles. i loved the dialogues, as long as they were.
i loved everything, *I* loved everything about DP, and I disagree sharply with people who didn't.
I also, think that the SPOILER was correct, if the guys didnt want to know details, why did they read? damn it?
Because they are fucking Beavies and Butthead.

I also diagree with the morron that criticized the NZ accent, much better than other accents, every accents are cute. Rather, I think her accent is awful, this reader accent is awful.

Mwa-haha, can't you be smarter, QT's DPP was way better, why do you guys only like idiotism, so PT was better just because it was contentless?
C'mon...

Posted by: jose at May 7, 2007 8:54 PM

It first I thought this was a forum for fans of smart cinema, but having seen so many teen-like comments, "Hey, those explosions and killings and bllod kicks ass!", I realized theyre just a bunch of empty mind idiots, just like the little person who offended NZ accent...

Bunch of losers capitulating to an oppresive system...

Posted by: jose at May 7, 2007 9:16 PM

I love zombie movies so much that even I don't quite understand it. And I thought Planet Terror was awesome -- really quite perfect -- and definitely better than Death Proof. I totally disagree that fleshing out the characters was almost a waste of time. Damn! I cared about those characters. And in no way was Planet Terror so bad it was good. It was genuinely great because it accomplished the point of the whole exercise. That is, the movie is a faithful homage to a genre in which "so bad it's good" is one of the highest compliments one can pay. And also, the action was perfectly paced. I never lost interest for a second.

Death Proof, on the other hand, did not seem much like a grindhouse flick to me. It was way too talky, the build-up was too slow, and the characters, with the exception of Stuntman Mike, were just not sleazy enough. An exploitation movie about a bunch of genuinely hot young woman leading enviable lives? I don't think so. I mean, for the most part I liked all the girls (Jungle Julie excepted -- what a fucking bitch), but they were just like any group of hip young women in any other hip major Hollywood film, and that's not what Grindhouse was supposed to be about. I respect Rodriguez for giving us exactly what we went there for.

I do think that the murder of the first five girls was inspired, because it was some seriously sadistic shit. Kurt Russell gave a really great performance. Rose McGowan's death was particularly hard to take. The car chase was spectacular and I loved seeing those women turn the tables on him. I was perturbed at how they left the cheerleader alone with that huge redneck after telling him she was a porn actress, and it really bothered me that we never found out what happened to her. It seems really out of keeping with the message of female empowerment and sisterhood that I presume we were supposed to take away from the film. And after all the discussion about the gun, and defense against rape, they left that girl there where should could have been raped. What the hell was up with that?

Also, I couldn't agree more with the poster who complained about Tarantino as an actor. Everytime he appeared onscreen I was like "damn, get out of my face." He really is so wooden. If he insists on doing it, he should be onscreen for a matter of seconds and keep his mouth shut, like Hitchcock used to do. I think Tarantino is a bit too far up his own ass. And Death Proof, while it had many great elements to it, was no where near his best film. But Planet Terror just might be Rodriquez'.

And a note to the people who thought this was all just a bunch of shit: well obviously, this type of film is not for you. If you don't like horror and exploitation cinema, you're really in no position to comment on an homage to the genre.

Posted by: Vanessa at May 26, 2007 11:54 PM

I love zombie movies so much that even I don't quite understand it. And I thought Planet Terror was awesome -- really quite perfect -- and definitely better than Death Proof. I totally disagree that fleshing out the characters was almost a waste of time. Damn! I cared about those characters. And in no way was Planet Terror so bad it was good. It was genuinely great because it accomplished the point of the whole exercise. That is, the movie is a faithful homage to a genre in which "so bad it's good" is one of the highest compliments one can pay. And also, the action was perfectly paced. I never lost interest for a second.

Death Proof, on the other hand, did not seem much like a grindhouse flick to me. It was way too talky, the build-up was too slow, and the characters, with the exception of Stuntman Mike, were just not sleazy enough. An exploitation movie about a bunch of genuinely hot young woman leading enviable lives? I don't think so. I mean, for the most part I liked all the girls (Jungle Julie excepted -- what a fucking bitch), but they were just like any group of hip young women in any other hip major Hollywood film, and that's not what Grindhouse was supposed to be about. I respect Rodriguez for giving us exactly what we went there for.

I do think that the murder of the first five girls was inspired, because it was some seriously sadistic shit. Kurt Russell gave a really great performance. Rose McGowan's death was particularly hard to take. The car chase was spectacular and I loved seeing those women turn the tables on him. I was perturbed at how they left the cheerleader alone with that huge redneck after telling him she was a porn actress, and it really bothered me that we never found out what happened to her. It seems really out of keeping with the message of female empowerment and sisterhood that I presume we were supposed to take away from the film. And after all the discussion about the gun, and defense against rape, they left that girl there where should could have been raped. What the hell was up with that?

Also, I couldn't agree more with the poster who complained about Tarantino as an actor. Everytime he appeared onscreen I was like "damn, get out of my face." He really is so wooden. If he insists on doing it, he should be onscreen for a matter of seconds and keep his mouth shut, like Hitchcock used to do. I think Tarantino is a bit too far up his own ass. And Death Proof, while it had many great elements to it, was no where near his best film. But Planet Terror just might be Rodriquez'.

And a note to the people who thought this was all just a bunch of shit: well obviously, this type of film is not for you. If you don't like horror and exploitation cinema, you're really in no position to comment on an homage to the genre.

Posted by: Vanessa at May 26, 2007 11:57 PM

Oops. Awfully long for a double post. Sorry about that.

Posted by: Vanessa at May 26, 2007 11:59 PM

Hey, can't you people express disagreement with the opinions of others without calling them idiots?

I'm pretty sure that, though some of you very rude people might be as smart as I am, not a one of you is smarter.

I'm also pretty sure that all of you are a good bit younger than I am. Hopefully you'll manage to learn some manners and humility as you age.

Posted by: Vanessa at May 27, 2007 12:07 AM

Planet Terror was a damn near perfect Zombie Apocalypse love letter, great off the wall craziness.

Death Proof was interminable and NOT a "grindhouse" movie. 90% inane dialog (45 minutes before anything actually happens?) and a car chase straight out of an episode of CHiP's? Since when is that exploitation fare? I can't imagine what Tarantino was thinking but he wasted a fantastic Kurt Russell performance.

Posted by: Sean at September 30, 2007 5:03 PM