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Elegy / Dustin Rowles

Film Reviews | August 22, 2008 | Comments (63)


Why is that, sometimes, watching a good movie feels like such a goddamn chore? You know the type I’m talking about, right? The movie you stick in your Netflix queue because you think you should see it, and then forget about it until it arrives in your mailbox before it is subsequently placed on top of your DVD player for the next six months while your monthly subscription fees go to waste (e.g., I’ve had The Lives of Others checked out since February). Elegy, similarly, is a decent movie if you can force yourself to watch it. It’s just that it’s a melancholy, depressing film that glacially moves toward a desolate ending. It may even trigger a tear or two, but it’s hard to tell whether it’s because the dénouement is extraordinarily touching, or if it’s because of the elation you feel that the credits are finally rolling.

Truthfully, I don’t even know who these serious adult relationship dramas (SARDs) — like this, or last year’s Married Life or half of Julianne Moore’s filmography — are even aimed at anymore. It’s not that they’re bad movies — in fact, most SARDs are better than decent — it’s just that it’s hard to work up a lot of enthusiasm for even the best of this genre like, say ,Todd Haynes’ Far From Heaven, and they never perform particularly well at the box-office. They seem like “prestige” projects, unseen indies that garner a few positive notices before disappearing, though I suppose it is easier than doing a stage production in London if you’re looking to boost your acting cred.

Elegy was adapted from a Phillip Roth novel, The Dying Animal, and it’s fairly typical of Roth’s work over the last fifteen or 20 years in its dealing with issues of mortality and geriatric living, though the Portnoy’s Complaint lustful side of Roth still peeks through here in Elegy’s frank depiction of sex (Roth, John Irving, and John Updike may be the horniest, literary men of all time, but they are also three of my favorite authors and I respect them all too much to call them what they really are: misogynistic pigs). The movie is about an aging cultural critic/college professor, David Kepesh (Ben Kingsley), who falls madly in love with one of his grad students, Conseula Castillo, played by Penelope Cruz, who — if John is to be believed — now has two solid English-speaking roles under her extremely tiny belt. David woos her with his usual brand of intellectual windbaggery, but his affection for her grows much deeper than it has for his usual grad-student conquests. Conseula is vulnerable and unsure of herself (“She knows she’s beautiful but doesn’t know what to do with her beauty”), and over the course of a very long hour, Spanish director Isabel Coixet (My Life Without Me), establishes their relationship before finally introducing the narrative hook, though the events that transpire after that don’t move at any brisker a pace.

For context, Kepesh also has a long-time, no-strings attached lover (Patricia Clarkson, a veteran of these SARDs), who drops by occasionally for a fuck and some decent conversation. His best friend is a Pulitzer-Prize winning poet (Dennis Hopper), who doles out relationship advice despite the wreck of a relationship he’s in. Kepesh also has a strained relationship with his son (Peter Saarsgard) from an abandoned marriage, who — even in his infidelity — manages to be morally superior to David. No one does smug better than Saarsgard.

But the central story focuses on the intense, May-December romance between Kepesh and Consuela, and thematically, Elegy’s message is much less subtle than it probably was in the more capable hands of Roth. Beauty is only skin deep is the platitude, but Hopper’s poet puts it better: “Beautiful women are invisible; we see the beauty, but we never see the person. We’re blocked by the beauty barrier. We’re so dazzled by the outside that we never make it to the inside.” Coixet takes some pains to demonstrate the dazzling “outside,” providing long, voyeuristic looks at Cruz’s naked breasts, which seems a little gratuitous until the “should’ve seen it coming” ending reveals the necessity of it.

Elegy is full of strong performances, a capable script, beautiful cinematography, and it raises some thoughtful issues. It is, undoubtedly, a good film, but it’s so somber, meditative, and so agonizingly full of itself that it’s hard to get excited about it. It’s a great movie to put on your Netflix queue. Just make sure to remove it before they send it to your house.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives with his wife and son in Portland, Maine. Please leave a comment or send an email.









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Comments

Dustin, you MUST watch The Lives of Others. That may have been my favorite movie to come out that year.

Now I'll resume reading your review.

Posted by: JH at August 22, 2008 8:56 AM

*sigh* Juliane Moore, Meryl Streep's younger, less attractive cousin, who she has nothing in common with.

As for this.Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, here's a clue, it feels like work, you are not being entertained.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 22, 2008 9:02 AM

Penelope Cruz?

Add bestiality to Ben Kingsley's diverse resume...

Posted by: Che Grovera at August 22, 2008 9:03 AM

I also had The Lives of Others here from Netflix for like 3 months this summer before I just gave up and sent it back. I still desperately want to see it, but my work schedule doesn't give me the kind of time to really focus on that kind of movie.

I've also had The Last King of Scotland here since... April.

Anyway, Elegy sounds pretty good. I'll put that in my queue when it hits DVD. Maybe by that point I'll have time for Deep Movies.

Posted by: Gabs at August 22, 2008 9:13 AM

The Lives of Others is so much better than a typical SARDs movie -- there is a reason it beat out Pan's Labyrinth for the Best Foreign Film Oscar.

Posted by: Jenn at August 22, 2008 9:25 AM

I get that Irving is somewhat a sexual deviant, but I don't get why you would describe him as misogynistic. The female characters portrayed in his books are always very strong and mostly his male characters are a lot more screwed up. Even though he's kind of obsessed with rape and sexual disease, he doesn't victim blame or punish female sexual free spirits.

Posted by: nischi at August 22, 2008 9:39 AM

you lazy hack, read an adult book, listen to a classical soundtrack, watch a SARD or just fucking THINK

Or give up the right to criticize the banal spoon fed shit that is the other end of the cultural bell curve.

you use it, or lose it.

Posted by: thaf at August 22, 2008 9:42 AM

People:

Listen to what we are telling you. Pop The Lives of Others into the DVD player right now. It's not boring, it doesn't drag, it will grab you from the start and you won't be able to walk away even to have a quick pee. Also, it's not a SARD at all.

As for this one, if the whole thing hinges on not being able to see what's inside beautiful women because they're too beautiful (a tired cliche if you ask me), then perhaps they should have cast a beautiful woman in the role.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 22, 2008 9:45 AM

"(Roth, John Irving, and John Updike may be the horniest, literary men of all time, and I respect them all too much to call them what they really are: misogynistic pigs)"

Okay, Updike and Roth I get (I guess) but calling Irving a misogynistic pig? Seriously?

I've read almost everyone one of his books and as a card carrying member of the hotpocket society I call bullshit on that. So the dude has some minor hang-ups on prostitution, incest and old chicks. He also goes bonkers for bears, tattoo's and random acts of inter species violence. It makes him quirky (and a fucking genius) but not a woman hater. The guy paints detailed pictures of complicated characters that make weird choices, but because they are so well written you root for them anyway. It's true that a lot of his female characters are wounded or abused in some way, but so are the males. And even if they are dealt an unfortunate faith, that is often true for the world we live in. Or do you have to be "packing vag" (I don't recall who introduced that phrase but it made me feel weird the last time I put on my jeans, like I should also have a holster of some kind...anyway) to write about women these days. He doesn't push women in a victim role, he shows how people survive. How they find happiness (or content) in unorthodox places and more importantly, he never judges them. He just writes honestly about people that are as interesting as the crazy world they live in.

Misogynism is a real problem, in literature, in politics, in life. But calling people sexist pigs for portraying women in a way that might be perceived as unflattering to those who don't look beyond the surface is part of the problem. Writing about whores and abuse victims doesn't make you a misogynist. Calling your wife a cunt on television does...

Posted by: Pants at August 22, 2008 9:46 AM

Patricia Clarkson, a veteran of these SARDs

Alas, it's true. She has another SARD coming out, too, Phoebe in Wonderland, and it's the same deal. It feels like something you should want to see, it's packaged nicely with a good cast, and it's a bit of a slog to get through. Oh well, someday Patty and I will look back on this, she sitting on her sofa and I crouched in the bushes outside, and we'll laugh and laugh.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 22, 2008 9:50 AM

Bravo Pants. Lovely lovely last paragraph.

Dustin, I simply MUST echo the love for Das Leben Der Anderen, but I also recognize it is a movie that might be difficult for a parent of a young bebe to focus on.

Have a date night a do yourself a solid, my friend.

Posted by: boo at August 22, 2008 9:51 AM

...a card carrying member of the hotpocket society....

Heehee, love it, Pants! As for "Packing vag," while it's also very funny, it kind of sounds more like a euphemism for sex than for lady bits....

Posted by: MO(meaux) at August 22, 2008 9:52 AM

Add me to the "The Lives of Others is brilliant" camp. Once you start watching it, it won't feel like work, it will feel like someone is talking beautiful, logical sense to you. Great film.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 22, 2008 9:53 AM

Great observation on the Netflix woes, lemme 'splain my current conundrum:

I've had the 5th season of 'The Wire' in my queue since at least April. Now that it's finally on DVD, they've sent me discs 2 and 3, but disc 1 has a 'Long Wait' & I don't want to watch the episodes out of order (I'm on the three-at-a-time plan). So I've been holding on to discs 2 and 3 and I immediately send back every other DVD that's on my queue, hoping eventually I'll get disc 1.

This doesn't make sense to me. Why would only disc 1 have a 'Long Wait' while the other 3 or 4 discs are 'Available Now'?

Ah, it's a problem I don't really expect an answer to, just wanted to vent a bit at the prospect of another weekend without the latest 'Wire' marathon. Carry on.

Posted by: TMax at August 22, 2008 9:55 AM

"She knows she's beautiful but doesn't know what to do with her beauty"

OH, PUL-EASE! Give me a break.

Actually, I went to university with the beautiful woman I have ever seen. She "no makeup" beautiful, if you know what I mean. She looked like she was maybe wearing a little mascara and that's all, and that her hair just happen to fall that way naturally into silken waves. All the boys in my dorm wanted to go out with her, and some of them even were brave enough to ask her out. They all went out with her ONCE, because they didn't ask her out a second time. They said that she was so used to just being looked at that she never developed any conversation techniques. She was the most boring date they ever had. I never saw her after the first semester. I always figured she married some older rich guy and retired.

Posted by: BWeaves at August 22, 2008 10:04 AM

My new Netflix rule is that if I hold a movie for longer than a month it gets sent back. The Orphanage and In Bruges are getting close so I need to pop them in this weekend. Every now and then I'll send everything back unwatched if nothing is grabbing my attention. Usually this works to get me back in the habit of watching. I must have had Brick for 2 months before finally mailing it back unseen. I think it's on HD Movies this month, I'm probably catch it there.

This movie sounds painful. It's not even getting a pity slot.

Posted by: TylerDFC at August 22, 2008 10:14 AM

I'll add my adulation for The Lives of Others, although I still would have given the Oscar to Pan's Labyrinth.

I really want to see this movie - and wonder if perhaps this just isn't Dustin's *type* of movie? And if it's on the melancholy side, wasn't Vicky Christina Barcelona as well?

I'm also off to see Tell No One this weekend - I don't recall that being reviewed here yet?

Posted by: Cindy at August 22, 2008 10:18 AM

This movie hits close to home for me. In college I had an affair with a married professor and it ended on a very sad note. I'm not sure which one of us did the seducing, but nonetheless it happened. To this day I often think of him.

Posted by: Pookie at August 22, 2008 10:23 AM

then perhaps they should have cast a beautiful woman in the role.

Oh you catty bitch, you.


Very interesting. I completely relate to Dustin's problem with medicinal movies that aren't any fun to watch, along with the "waitflixing" and "notflixing" (though I don't know if there's a term for the long time period before you send it back). I hadn't realized that Julianne Moore's kinda got her own genre, or at least represents one, but it's true, and I really don't have time or enthusiasm for those stories.

I know "The Lives of Others" isn't the same kind of drama, but I have a bit of the same "is it gonna ruin my day?" hesistancy. I can get depressed for no concrete reason as it is. Plus, "The Lives of Others" is also a peer pressure movie, and that never works on me. The same friend who's urged me to see it several times has also commanded that I watch "Army of Shadows". I've put it on the Netflix list but......we'll see what happens!

Posted by: Jay at August 22, 2008 10:24 AM

Cindy, I'm seeing that too. It looks absolutely amazing, and has received a 92% at RT.

Posted by: boo at August 22, 2008 10:27 AM

Cindy and boo: Check back in an hour or so.

Posted by: ted boynton at August 22, 2008 10:33 AM

though I don't know if there's a term for the long time period before you send it back

Procrastiflixing?

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 22, 2008 10:35 AM

Gabs, I've never ever posted before, but I felt compelled to because you mentioned The Last King of Scotland. I netflixed it recently during a James McAvoy streak, and I thought that it was going to be one of those movies that I took me months to get around to watching, because I really did think it was going to be a chore to watch (like I did with Away From Her - though that one really was pretty depressing and hard to watch, if well done). Last King of Scotland wasn't like that at all for me, though. I forced myself to watch it last night, and it was completely intense and thrilling and I was on the edge of my seat just like a cliched movie critic through a lot of it! It was really powerful stuff, and I don't even mean in a good for you kind of way. More like a political thriller than a longwinded political drama. You should watch it!

Posted by: Leslie at August 22, 2008 10:35 AM

Jay:

We've Pajibaed together for how long now and today you come to the realization that I'm a catty bitch? Have you been asleep at the key board?

I don't think The Lives of Others will depress you at all. Give it a chance.

Juianne Moore: I'm a fan, but yeah, she has taken on some roles that seem to be determined to make people see her as only the "indiest" of actresses. Her character in Savage Grace makes Angela Lansbury's character in Manchurian Candidate seem like Mary Poppins.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 22, 2008 10:36 AM

Tyler, you should definitely make the effort to see Brick. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Posted by: jM at August 22, 2008 10:38 AM

TylerDFC, "In Bruges" made a Colin Farell fan out of me. I laughed, I cried, I loved.

Posted by: Brigette at August 22, 2008 10:39 AM

Ted: YAY!!

Posted by: boo at August 22, 2008 10:43 AM

boo I've read nothing but great reviews, and I love a good thriller.

Thanks tb.

I caught A Girl Cut in Two last weekend - has anyone else seen that one? It has a bit of the older man younger woman thing going, but with a twist. I can't say I was captivated, though it had some intriguing bits. At least with Elegy I can get on board the Ben Kingsley train. With the older gentleman in AGCIT, François Berléand, I did not see the appeal.

Posted by: Cindy at August 22, 2008 10:46 AM

I completely agree Brigette. In Bruges had me alternately laughing and feeling that heart-tug thing. I will say it takes a few minutes to get going at the start.

Posted by: Cindy at August 22, 2008 10:50 AM

I completely agree Brigette. In Bruges had me alternately laughing and feeling that heart-tug thing. I will say it takes a few minutes to get going at the start, but once it does it's completely captivating.

Posted by: Cindy at August 22, 2008 10:51 AM

I've been meaning to watch "Dazed and Confused" since I was 16 years old. I've rented it dozens of times, but I never seem to get around to watching it. It's sort of become a life goal to finish that movie before I die.

Posted by: brenia at August 22, 2008 10:52 AM

Apparently I don't edit well.

Posted by: Cindy at August 22, 2008 10:52 AM

I actually enjoyed this movie. My wife picked it up and I found myself entertained. Not a top ten, but definitely worth checking out.

Posted by: Conrad (last name withheld) at August 22, 2008 10:54 AM

TylerDFC, Brigette is right; In Bruges is definitely worth a watch. I figured I'd give it a shot based on what I'd heard here, fully expecting to get bored and give up on it--but damned if it wasn't a really entertaining, surprisingly fast-paced film!

Posted by: MO(meaux) at August 22, 2008 10:55 AM

Wow. I've never seen Updike called out as a misogynist and I must admit that it pleases me to see that happen. Boyfriend is a fabulous writer, but his female characters (or characterization of females, more accurately) always made me uncomfortable for reasons I couldn't articulate. For whatever reason, Roth never bothered me quite as much because Roth was never really a voice for refined, professional manhood the way the way Updike was. Updike's men always struck me as the types who would put women into "women to have fun with" and "women to marry camps", whereas Roth's men either don't get married or have complicated marriages with the former camp. I don't know - Roth just always struck me as more up-front about the ladies.

I also love just about all of his books, but I DETESTED "The Dying Animal." I thought it was lazy as hell and the boob thing was just outrageous.

As for Irving, I think he's got wimmin issues, but I do enjoy his writing. I don't think he's misogynistic, actually, but he does celebrate and simultaneously break apart certain kinds of man's men in a funny way.

Posted by: samantha t at August 22, 2008 11:08 AM

Julianne Moore was actually really good in Lebowski, though, and also in Boogie Nights. you can't really consider either of those "indies", I don't think. I feel like maybe she just chooses roles that are interesting to her, without thinking about whether they're interesting to other people? Just kind of an impression of her that I have for no real reason.

I'm thoroughly intrigued by Tell No One now, though. I seem to remember having heard about it, but then I guess I forgot about it.

Also, on the Brick love train.

Pookie, you've got my hot pocket all microwaved with your hot Pookie-on-prof action.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at August 22, 2008 11:12 AM

One day, I'll learn to use HTML tags properly.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at August 22, 2008 11:13 AM

Oh my God, you guys, I can't believe you're discussing Julianne Moore's SARDs but have somehow failed to mention the SARDiest of them ALL: The Lost World: Jurassic Park. It made me cry. It... it changed me.

Posted by: Sarina at August 22, 2008 11:21 AM

"In Bruges" made a Colin Farell fan out of me. I laughed, I cried, I loved.

Ooh ooh, me too! Great engaging film.

I somehow have missed out on reading anything by Roth OR Updike, though I own books by both. They mock me from my bookcase and yet I can never bring myself to read them.

Posted by: Julie at August 22, 2008 11:23 AM

Oh my God, you guys, I can't believe you're discussing Julianne Moore's SARDs but have somehow failed to mention the SARDiest of them ALL: The Lost World: Jurassic Park. It made me cry. It... it changed me.

Truly a grave omission. Whose heart didn't flutter at the sight of the little girl doing Gymkata on a raptor?

That is true artistry at work, folks.

Posted by: Vermillion at August 22, 2008 11:36 AM

I really enjoyed this film. Yes, it moves slowly at times, but I thought that added something appropriate to the overall mood and feel, and really helped develop the characters. I thought the performances were solid - I thought Cruz's performance was fantastic - very intensely emotional; even the way she performed physically. Also, it was an undeniably beautiful film. I would recommend it.

Posted by: tt_marie at August 22, 2008 11:50 AM

Holy shit Vermillion, Gymkata reference? I love you. I can't watch the Pommel Horse event without reciting, "the skill of gymnastics...the KILL of karate"...If you ask me, that's cinematic gold right there!

Posted by: Lux at August 22, 2008 11:58 AM

That settles it, In Bruges is going in the DVD player tonight. The Pajibites have spoken, if it blows I'm hijacking the MT and coming after you all!

Posted by: TylerDFC at August 22, 2008 12:07 PM

Oh, and a big YES to "The Lives of Others." It is fantastic - really absorbing and, I'd argue, has a relatively happy ending. I also thought the music kicked ass.

Posted by: samantha t at August 22, 2008 12:13 PM

Okay, I'm being a haunt here: another issue I had with Roth's "The Dying Animal" was SPOILER ALERT the pervasive theme that breast cancer is somehow more tragic because it robs dudes of the pleasure of women's beautiful boobs. Give me a f****ing break! Typical male-centric Roth, but with no redeeming qualities such as humor and insight.

Posted by: samantha t at August 22, 2008 12:16 PM

I second (or third, or whatever) the assertion that John Irving isn't a misogynist. I think he does grotesque characters very well, and the female ones can just be harder to stomach. Glad to see the Irving love on here though -- he's my favorite and I don't hear his name enough!

Posted by: bf at August 22, 2008 12:49 PM

"long, voyeuristic looks at Cruz's naked breasts" - yummy.

Posted by: sosumi at August 22, 2008 1:06 PM

It is a great travesty that Das Leben Der Anderen was packaged the way it was for American consumption. The Sony website and preview show just about every sex related scene there is in the entire film, nearly completely misrepresenting it.

DLDA is one of the finest German films I've seen, and having lived there off and on for a few years, I've seen my fair share. Please pop it in and watch it.

Posted by: Alon at August 22, 2008 1:14 PM

Che, Heh, I about spewed on "bestiality." Cruz was giving me a come-hither look from a magazine cover in the drug store today, and you know those cover shots are posed and lighted and airbrushed to infinity so she looks the absolute very best she possibly can, and probably even better than is physically possible, and still ... I get nothin.' It haunts my sleep to think what she looks like when she rolls over in the a.m.

But you know what's sad? I'd tumble her in a heartbeat over SJP and Julia Roberts. Gah.

Posted by: bucdaddy at August 22, 2008 2:24 PM

Gymkata's flag was always kept flying on the Satellite of Love.

Hai-Keeba!

Posted by: Jay at August 22, 2008 2:46 PM

Fuck a May-December romance. Fuck in right in the ass. I have had it with May-December romances. Ben Kingsley and Penelope Cruz? Hell to the fuck no. Jack Nicholson and Helen Hunt in As Good as it Gets? Please. And let's not forget Catherine Zeta-Jones and Sean "Oops, I Crapped My Pants" Connery in Entrapment.

I'm not trying to be a cranky bitch here; I realize that these relationships do exist in reality. But WHY?! Relationships of the sexual persuasion should not exist between beautiful young women and men with faces like catcher's mitts who are so old they probably won't even go down on a vagooter because foreplay hadn't been invented yet back when they were honing their game.

But maybe I'm just bitter.

Posted by: Mella at August 22, 2008 2:46 PM

Okay, where was everybody when Sean Connery was married to Gena Rowlands in "Playing By Heart"?

I......wag my finger!

(but how about "August and September"? That's a really good song!)

Posted by: Jay at August 22, 2008 2:58 PM

Mella, your post made me laugh hysterically. The only women I know in real life who have gotten involved in much, much older dudes (I'm talking 20 years+) have some major daddy issues. I want to see a Kathy Bates/Jude Law hook-up STAT.

Posted by: samantha t at August 22, 2008 3:23 PM

I want to see a Kathy Bates/Jude Law hook-up STAT.

samantha t, that might just be the hottest thing I've read today.

Brief Crossing. 2001, Catherine Breillat.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at August 22, 2008 3:31 PM

"...it is subsequently placed on top of your DVD player for the next six months while your monthly subscription fees go to waste"

you just described Mystic River perfectly.

Posted by: Stella at August 22, 2008 4:05 PM

Bitter Mella,

"Go down on a vagooter"? Honey, I'm 51, and if it was air conditioned I'd live in there.

Posted by: bucdaddy at August 22, 2008 9:33 PM

I loved Abe Vagooder on "Barney Miller." Now THAT guy had a face like a catcher's mitt.

Posted by: bucdaddy at August 22, 2008 9:42 PM

I loved Abe Vagooter on "Barney Miller." Now THAT guy had a face like a catcher's mitt.

Posted by: bucdaddy at August 22, 2008 9:43 PM

Fuck. Double post. Note to self: edit BEFORE you push the Post Comment thingie.

Posted by: bucdaddy at August 22, 2008 10:36 PM

The name of the character played by Penélope Cruz is Consuela, not Conseula.

Posted by: Nat at August 23, 2008 3:52 PM

Bitter Mella,

"Go down on a vagooter"? Honey, I'm 51, and if it was air conditioned I'd live in there.

Posted by: bucdaddy at August 22, 2008 9:33 PM

And I'd bet you've got great skin. Vagooter essence is a veritable youth tonic. That's science. Spread the word.

...And the legs. ZING!!

Posted by: (Slightly Less Bitter) Mella at August 23, 2008 4:36 PM

I saw "Elegy" yesterday and really wanted to like it, but found myself counting the minutes until it was over. Yes, it's beautifully shot. Yes, the acting is good (this could easily have fallen onto less accomplished shoulders and been a true disaster.) And still, I would have been okay with it if it had ended, oh, about 20 minutes earlier than it did. The "should've seen it coming" ending was painful - cliched, maudlin, dull.

There is a moment just before it goes south when Kingsley's character drops a racquet ball and it rolls to rest against the wall. I held my breath for a second then, thinking, could this be the ending? A quiet ending that left us with the characters' lives as unresolved and messy as they were when the film started? Now that would have been a movie I'd wanted to have seen, but sadly, it kept going.

I also thought the stronger love story was between Kingsley's and Hopper's characters. Their final scene together was raw and complex and beautiful.

Posted by: medusa at August 24, 2008 8:00 AM

oh, and I agree with others about "The Lives of Others." It's very different than this, seriously. And all the more poignant to watch now, knowing that the lead actor, Ulrich Muhe, has since passed away.

And I need to throw one into the bad May-December flick pile - Steve Martin and Claire Danes in "Shopgirl." The film was horrible, and not helped by the fact that the "issues" in the couple's romance had nothing to do with the fact that he was old enough to be her grandfather, but were based on his "lack of commitment" or some other such cliched nonsense. At least in "Elegy" Kingsley's character is tormented by the age difference, because at least he's smart enough to realize it's a huge deal.

Posted by: medusa at August 24, 2008 8:14 AM