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2008: A Douchebag Odyssey


Eagle Eye / Dustin Rowles

Film Reviews | September 26, 2008 | Comments (80)


I don’t know whether it’s an indication of how blahtastic Eagle Eye was or how compelling the events on Capitol Hill and/or the campaign trail are, but what does it say about the movie that I couldn’t wait for it to end so I could plop my ass back down in front of CNN? Indeed, one of the central plot points in Eagle Eye involves the threat of a train wreck, while in Washington D.C., the train has derailed and is veering dangerously toward freeway traffic. I’ll take the real-life train wreck any day.

Take real life out of the equation, however, and Eagle Eye isn’t an atrocious movie. It’s nonsensical, wacky, and all over the place, but it’s watchable. Kind of. In fact, the best compliment I can pay to the movie is that it’s competent. It’s garbage, but it’s well-executed garbage. And for a good hour or so, it’s even entertaining — completely laughable, but entertaining all the same. Unfortunately, once the mystery is revealed, what little tension there is completely dissipates, swallowed up by a series of ludicrous explosions and lifeless chase scenes meant to shroud the fact that there is no there there.

Eagle Eye is probably best described as a generic cross between The Fugitive and 2001, which is to say it’s a Y-Gen sci-fi thriller. It’s Phillip Dick run through a studio filter and scripted by a computerized program with the voice of Wolf Blitzer. There’s a big idea beneath all the fire and digital effects, but it’s fangless, a homogenized Orwellian theme. That is, if Orwell wore a suit and was subject to the whims of test audiences. There’s so little of substance going on in the film that I fear revealing even one of the plot points will give it all away; once you know what it’s about, you know basically what’s going to happen.

Here’s the flimsiest of plot sketches: Jerry Shaw (Shia LaBeouf) is a slacker copy boy running on the fumes of his bank account. He is informed that his estranged twin brother — a military type — is killed in a freak traffic accident. An hour after the funeral, an ATM spits money at him and a shipment of bomb-making materials arrives in his apartment. He receives a phone call from an unknown woman with a clipped voice who delivers orders, and suddenly, the feds are after Jerry. Meanwhile, Rachel (Michelle Monaghan) receives a phone call from the same woman, telling her that if she doesn’t follow her orders, her son will be killed. The next thing you know, Rachel and Jerry are in cahoots with the phone woman, and they are robbing an armored truck, jumping out of windows, and running from a couple of FBI Agents (Billy Bob Thornton and Ethan Embry). Strangest of all, at least from a logical standpoint, they are ordered — through a series of tasks — to go from the East Coast to L.A., only to fly back to D.C., though nothing is gained from the trek either way. Beneath all of this, there’s some sort of convoluted, absurd web conspiracy involving the Facebook generation’s version of HAL. The less said about that, the better.

What’s so criminal about Eagle Eye is the amount of wasted talent that went into it. The script should’ve been given to one of Michael Bay’s personal assistants and a collection of feces-throwing monkeys. But Steven Spielberg is atop this manure heap, as executive producer, so the talent lined up. The biggest waste is D.J. Caruso, one of Spielberg’s protégés, who is a good director; he just hasn’t been given good material to work with yet (that should change when he directs Y: The Last Man). You can bag on Shia LaBeouf all you want, but he’s one of the better actors under the age of 25 (I know, that doesn’t mean a lot, but still …). Billy Bob Thornton is wasted in a lousy Tommy Lee Jones knock-off role; Michelle Monaghan is asked basically to look pretty and run; Rosario Dawson’s lips look great, even in a military uniform; and Michael Chiklis just clenches his jaw. A lot. Mostly, the action happens around them, and everyone looks like they’re trapped in a vortex of suck waiting for it to blow over so they can collect their paycheck.

The problem here is the script. The story idea allegedly came from Spielberg himself, who clearly cast off the leftovers from his Minority Report script. After that, a group of four screenwriters was brought in to flesh it out, which they apparently did by cutting and pasting scenes from Ridley Scott and Andrew Davis’ least greatest hits. It’s one of the most bland, studio-driven films I’ve seen in a great while — inoffensive, unoriginal, and brain dead. But it’s not a hard movie to watch, just a hard movie to enjoy.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives in Portland, Maine. You can reach him via email, or leave a comment below.


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Comments

"..You can bag on Shia LaBeouf all you want, but he's one of the better actors under the age of 25..."


OMG Rowles, I know it's ok to be in touch with your feminine side but DAMN, DUUUUUUUUUUUDE, snap out of it.

You're gushing over this shithead like he's the second coming, time after time. I question your objectivity AND the integrity of this site.

Why not change the fucking name to Shiajiba, since you love him so much.

You make me sick.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 3:36 PM

"Michelle Monaghan is asked basically to look pretty and run."

Sound good enough to me. Hell, she could be asked to look dopey and somersault and I'd still buy a ticket - that lady is foxy as all get out.

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at September 26, 2008 3:44 PM

Shiajiba!!!

yea, and I second what BSlim said.

Posted by: dene chen at September 26, 2008 4:05 PM

Hey, Rowles. Remember when I told you when you first started working for Pajiba, the guys that last in this business are the guys who fly straight, Low-key, quiet. But the guys who want it all, chicas, champagne, flash... they don't last.

Posted by: Pookie at September 26, 2008 4:10 PM

I thought it was more of a cross between Live Free or Die Hard and 2001.

Also, that is SO Julianne Moore's voice on the phone. She can disavow connection with this film all she likes, but I would know that over-annunciation anywhere.

Posted by: coveredinbees at September 26, 2008 4:18 PM

Full disclosure: My husband and I used to wake up early to watch Even Stevens because we thought "that Shia kid" was funny. We did not have kids then, and we have never smoked pot. When he made the crossover to film, I was excited for his career. Without regard for the actual FILMS he does, I've always thought he was a pretty good actor. Affable, at the very least. And so tonight, my husband and I are going down to the multiplex and paying cash dollars to watch this movie with our heads high and our shame deeply repressed.

I'll go ahead and revoke my own cool card.

Posted by: Mella at September 26, 2008 4:23 PM

So what's the twist? Does it turn out to be a time-traveling, movie-crossing Angelina Jolie from Wanted who just wants to fuck with Billy's head, and at the end has her boytoy Shia give him a vial of blood and a good night kiss right before she swings in on a vine with guns blazing, gunning everyone down except for Rosario who she makes out with as the credits roll? Cuz I'd watch that...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at September 26, 2008 4:39 PM

Mella, you're not the only one. I also agree with Dustin about Shia LaBeouf. I know he can be kind of assy in real life, but I like him anyway, and I also used to love "Even Stevens". He's funny and mouthy and kind of awkward, and he's a lot more palatable on film than most of the other actors his age. I may or may not see this in a theatre, but I'll definitely be watching it at some point.

Posted by: Sarina at September 26, 2008 4:39 PM

...with fucking bells on...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at September 26, 2008 4:40 PM

What is it about Billy Bob Thornton that makes me think dirty? Is it the dirty in his eyes? The dirty on his skin? His dirty lips? His general dirtiness? I don't care if he's crazy. The dude is fuckable (especially in "Pushing Tin".)

That said, I'm waiting to catch this one on cable.

Posted by: Sofía at September 26, 2008 4:41 PM

Damn, sounds like they ran this movie thru the Hollywood SUCK filter too!

Posted by: ph at September 26, 2008 4:56 PM

Hey, Rowles. Don't tell me you sent Vermillion out to review Spike's new movie?

Posted by: Pookie at September 26, 2008 4:59 PM

Two thoughts:

1) coveredinbees, I thought that the voice over the phone was Joan Allen, reprising her "Bourne" films role.

2) Is it just me, or is Michelle Monaghan just NOT old enough to be Shia LaBeouf's mother?

Posted by: Ariel at September 26, 2008 5:22 PM

God, I can't FUCKING BELIEVE YOU PEOPLE!

"affable" "awkward" "funny"

You're describing Tom Hanks 2.0 is that what we WANT? It's like this kid he DOESN'T ACT he's doing his Nickelodeon/Disney/Whatever shtick.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD... Look, I liked the Amanda Show too, shit I'd fucking watch marathons of that shit and Clarissa Explains it All too...that doesn't mean I'm gonna start spooging over Bynes' and Joan Harts' acting chops(I'm not excluding other things).
This Shia person is their male equivalent. THE VERY DEFINITION OF BLAND and half-assedeness, don't give him your money pleeeeease.

Give me DiCaprio, or that (I can't believe I'm gonna say this) Emo Vader Chritenwhathisface any day over this tool.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 5:22 PM

Okay, I idiotically take that second part back. I had heard she was playing Shia's mother, but IMDB has informed me that they are strangers. That makes a little more sense, even if the rest of the movie is serviceable crap.

Posted by: Ariel at September 26, 2008 5:24 PM

michelle monaghan doesn't play HIS mom. Just another mom worried about her son. ... right? Otherwise yes, I completely agree with you and am worried about the casting director.

Posted by: J at September 26, 2008 5:25 PM

BSlim

You can shove Hayden Christensen up your emo ass. Seriously, he's so slender, it'd almost be comfortable. Like a tampon with a plastic applicator. And also? Melissa Joan Hart has no acting chops. She has acting gums. You leave my affable Shia LeBeouf alone. Good day.

I SAID GOOD DAY!

Posted by: Mella at September 26, 2008 5:26 PM

AHHHH! EMO VADER IS ANGER INSIDE ME! I would rather have even stevens then emo vader, because at least even stevens didn't stab my heart.

Posted by: emily1bob at September 26, 2008 5:33 PM

AHHH!!! EMO VADER IS ANGER IN MY HEART! I would rather have even stevens than emo vader because at least even stevens didn't stab me in my cold dead heart repeatedly.

Posted by: emily1bob at September 26, 2008 5:35 PM

She has acting gums. You leave my affable Shia LeBeouf alone. Good day.

I SAID GOOD DAY!

Posted by: Mella at September 26, 2008 5:26 PM

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Oh, that's just soooooooo mature.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 5:40 PM

Oh, that's just soooooooo mature.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 5:40 PM

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Yeah? So's your face.

Posted by: Mella at September 26, 2008 5:44 PM

Yeah? So's your face.

Posted by: Mella at September 26, 2008 5:44 PM

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No, you mean YOUR face.

*Why are you hittin' yourself*

*Why do you keep hittin' yourself*

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 5:47 PM

BSlim, DiCaprio is more than ten years older than LaBeouf, so they're not contemporaries. Hayden Christensen is also something like five years older than LaBeouf, so again, not really a contemporary (and I'm sorry, but I can't fucking stand Hayden Christensen). When compared to other kids of his actual age, yeah, I definitely think Shia LaBeouf is a pretty decent actor. The only other male actor I can think of (at least off the top of my head) age 22 or younger who I don't want to punch in the face on principle is Michael Cera, and I have my doubts about his abilities to pull off an action-y(ish) role, even a middling one.

I don't really see anything wrong with a young Tom Hanks or Will Smith type of performer. Generic charm will always have its place, and is certainly more enjoyable to watch onscreen than whatever it is you want to call it that's oozed by the Zac Efron types. What would you even call an action or suspense movie starring Zac Efron? The Curious Case of the Missing Masculinity?

Posted by: Sarina at September 26, 2008 5:47 PM

You can bag on Shia LaBeouf all you want, but he's one of the better actors under the age of 25 (I know, that doesn't mean a lot, but still ...)

I agree Dustin. I watched Even Stevens with my kids and I always thought Shia LaBeouf was talented, funny and with a certain maturity about his acting. I have continued to follow his career and have not been disappointed.

I know he can come off as a bit of a prick in interviews but that's what I like about him. He may be a prick but he is a palatable prick.

I don't think anyone can deny that LaBeouf unabashedly and enthusiastically loves film and from what I can see has a great work ethic.

I also agree that Caruso is a good director and needs better material. All you fanboys can start pissing and moaning now because it looks like it is going to be Caruso directing and LaBeouf starring in Y:The Last Man.

But like Mella, tomorrow I am going with my friend and contribute my hard earned and rapidly dwindling dollar to Eagle Eye's box office stats.

Posted by: allheavens at September 26, 2008 5:49 PM

"..When compared to other kids of his actual age, yeah, I definitely think Shia LaBeouf is a pretty decent actor..."

So that's our standard? "When compared to...?"

That's just a cop out, at least DiCaprio at that age, had range, ...Hayden well,I'm just putting him there as an example of how low the bar is and yet he's still better than this kid, that's how bad Shia is.

Look at least don't call Shia an actor he IS NOT, he does the same annoying routine..... in EVERYTHING

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 5:53 PM

No, you mean YOUR face.

*Why are you hittin' yourself*

*Why do you keep hittin' yourself*

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 5:47 PM

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Goddammit!! You know I hate that! NUT CHECK!!


*swings wildly at BSlim's nuts, misses by a mile, storms off indignantly*

Posted by: Mella at September 26, 2008 5:54 PM

So that's our standard? "When compared to...?"

Well, yeah, pretty much. I mean, when you've got a box fulla busted small appliances, at least the clock will be right a couple times, yanno? But what the hell are you gonna do with a hand mixer that's got no buttons, a broken cord, and a plastic whisk super-glued in where the beater's supposed to go?

Posted by: Sarina at September 26, 2008 6:01 PM

But what the hell are you gonna do with a hand mixer that's got no buttons, a broken cord, and a plastic whisk super-glued in where the beater's supposed to go?

Girl, I'd tell you, but this isn't the place.

Posted by: Mella at September 26, 2008 6:03 PM

Girl, I'd tell you, but this isn't the place.

No no...go on...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at September 26, 2008 6:06 PM

Yes...DO, go on...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 6:07 PM

*whisperwhisper*

...pour a melting, but still cold Wendy's Frosty over your...

*whisperwhisper*

...tie it very tightly with a licorice whip...

*whisperwhisper*

...because the Jell-o won't set unless you...

*whisperwhisper*

...and voila! The best part is you can reuse it again and again!

Posted by: Mella at September 26, 2008 6:12 PM

(fans face) Hey, can I get some ice water over here?

Posted by: lordhelmet at September 26, 2008 6:14 PM

Mmmmm....licorice....

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at September 26, 2008 6:20 PM

Where on earth are your minds!? I for one would never, NEVER! say anything which might be construed as naughty or obscene. I am a woman of the highest moral standards. Sarah Palin regularly consults me on matters of conservative decorum.

Um, this is just, uh, my recipe for Tulsa Tiramisu. I have to be careful with it; it's a family secret. Soooo, yeah.

Posted by: Mella at September 26, 2008 6:23 PM

I'd love to have a taste of your tiramisu!

...what? I love custard...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at September 26, 2008 6:29 PM

I would looooove to lick all the utensils you used, then..... pre-wash them...

*raises/lowers eyebrows*

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 6:34 PM

So that's our standard? "When compared to...?"

Every actor is not going to come out of the womb fully formed, i.e., Brando, Depp, Jackson. Some have to develop over time, LaBeouf at age 22 is at a good place as far as is skills are concerned.

A young DiCaprio did have range but his roles as an adult have been wildly inconsistent. Great in Catch Me If You Can and The Aviator, okay in The Departed and Blood Diamond. And watch Russell Crow make him eat shit in Body of Lies.

Hayden Christensen was good in Shattered Glass and My Life as a House but what as he done for me lately? Awake, Jumper, Star Wars, anyone?

Michael Cera, just endless variations on his George Michael Bluth character from Arrested Development.

Jamie Bell, I like Bell he is quietly building his resume and giving good performances in small films, like The Chumscrubber and Undertow. I will have to forgive him Jumper.

Emile Hirsch, good actor but does anyone else think this little bastard is just a little too smug and self-satisfied?

It is one thing to be good or great in a film with a great director, a great script and a wonderful supporting cast. But it is another thing to be great or good in a film with a bad director, a mediocre script and a fair to middling supporting cast.

If you can carry a fairly decent film but not a great film (Disturbia) or a outright bad film (Transformers) on your back and still come away with good reviews and a career that's still on the fast track, then let's give a little credit where credit is due.

When did being the everyman, being charming, being funny become a liability in film? Hard to make you laugh, easy to make you cry. LaBeouf can make you do both.

Let the hate begin.

Posted by: allheavens at September 26, 2008 6:40 PM

"Every actor is not going to come out of the womb fully formed, i.e., Brando, Depp, Jackson. Some have to develop over time, LaBeouf at age 22 is at a good place as far as is skills are concerned...."


Eh, in his early twenties Brando was on Broadway, when that mattered, he proceeded to study with Adler and was perfecting that whole Stanislavski technique he used. Depp, did 21 Jump Street and then VOLUNTARILY shed his whole teeny-bopper marketing in favor of following a serious career.
DiCaprio was doing Gilbert Grape and This Boy's Life.
In other words, these folks were ACTING and honing their skill, call it their *craft*.

What has young master LeBufoon done?

Even Stevens for...ah Disney, and then he did Holes, where he played ah...the same type of character, then he did "I Robot" where he played...mmmm the same character except with A VERY ANNOYING wigga' slant. Then came Constantine mmmm...he stretched, a little...then he went back to type on Transformers and Disturbia AND Raiders of the Lost Depends.

C'mon.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 7:02 PM

Oh, and another thing this kid basically got away from a drunk driving charge today. I won't go into crime & punishment debates regarding that little incident.

However, by many accounts he seems to have an affinity for Lohan type shenanigans, so those who are enabling like Mr. Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg will surely be partly to blame when he ends up killing somebody.

Face it the "tortured artiste" persona is not applicable here, he ain't no River Phoenix.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 7:37 PM

Sofía's Claymate-type confession du-jour:

I adore Hayden Christensen. I don't care if he can't act. And he's not even my type. But part of me is strongly convinced that one day, maybe ten years from now or more, he and I are going to have awkward-turned-okay sex. Then we'll have sex again and it's going to be awesome. We'll probably get married and move to his farm in Canada (yes, I'm well-versed in all-things Christensen -- or "Den", as his friends call him) and have sex in the snow, and our pale skins will disappear in the white snow, and our cheeks and noses will be red, and I'll play with the snow flakes on his hair and bite his Adam's apple until it also turns red.

He'll continue "acting", and I'll write a few screenplays for him, including the one that will shut everyone up and showcase his talent (dammit, Hayden, I know you have it; it's probably hidden in your monstrous Adam's apple.) We'll make silly home movies with our blonde children, and I'll touch his knee every time he tries to roll his r's while trying to speak Spanish.

What is it about you, Hayden?

Oh, and I like "Life as a House." I cry every time I watch it. I just wanna take that skinny Goth kid, have him rest his black head of hair on my lap and rub his ear between my thumb and forefinger.

Posted by: Sofía at September 26, 2008 8:27 PM

Unless he kills himself. Then we can make the comparison.

I can't say anything. Shia annoys me, but what I've seen him in he seemed to be okay. Yeah, he carried Transformers...but then again, so did Megan Fox's perfect little O mouth. Emile Hirsch may be one of the few current under-25 actors that I'm okay with....but quite honestly, you don't know how far someone comes along until they've made a name for themselves. You'd never heard word one about 21 Jump Street if Johnny Depp hadn't become such a great and huge actor.

So really...they're all shit now...but that's because they're just getting started. Let them figure out if they can make it or not before we call them child actor prodigies.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at September 26, 2008 8:39 PM

Sofia...that was stalker-worthy disturbing. I'm proud of you.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at September 26, 2008 8:41 PM

BSlim, I didn't say the kid was awesome; I said he was comparatively enjoyable to watch. I also said he's kind of assy in real life. It's not like I'm crying about how he should be showered with accolades over here, so I'm not sure what the big deal is about it. And yes, you and everyone else could name dozens of better actors with greater range, but they're all way older. There really aren't any phenomenal tiny tot actors. There are a few young actresses who are quite talented, but I guess maybe the boys are all too busy masturbating and dicking around on Xbox Live or something.

Now, if you wanna yell at me for a genuinely inexplicable (and baseless) affection for someone utterly devoid of both talent and appeal, then you can yell at me about how I like Kirsten Dunst even though she sucks in just about every possible way.

Posted by: Sarina at September 26, 2008 9:02 PM

bite his Adam's apple until it also turns red

So, Sophia's some kind of vampire, or into bloodsports somehow? Just kidding, you're welcome here in Canada any time. You can even bring Hayden with you, but if he comes anywhere near me I'm going to have to whup his ass for helping pervert Star Wars with his Emo Vader. I've got a Schwartz Ring just itching to be used. But if you keep him in line and if he keeps you happy, then I've got no problem with that!

Posted by: lordhelmet at September 26, 2008 9:49 PM

I'm even more convinced now:

He's devoid of acting talent.
He's geeting a free pass 'cause "he's OMG OMG OMG soooo hawt"
He's annoying.
He didn't carry Transformers, that's what the giant robots were there for.
Other superior young actors at his age were doing challenging, wider ranging material, this drunken coke-up punk is still strictly Disney.
No, I will not use my money to line his pockets while he half-asses his way through life.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 9:51 PM

So what's the twist? Does it turn out to be a time-traveling, movie-crossing Angelina Jolie from Wanted who just wants to fuck with Billy's head, and at the end has her boytoy Shia give him a vial of blood and a good night kiss right before she swings in on a vine with guns blazing, gunning everyone down except for Rosario who she makes out with as the credits roll? Cuz I'd watch that...

....GET THIS MAN A SCRIPT DEAL! NOW!!!!!

As far as BSlim and his issue with Shia: to each his or her own. I thought he was pretty good in Battle for Shaker Heights and Holes.

And as far as his sidekick turns in Constantine and I, Robot, well, anyone could have played those. They weren't really showcases for acting skills. And nobody is gonna argue that a damn Michael Bay movie featuring giant robots is going to feature even Golden Globe winning performances. And EVERYONE looked bad in Indiana Jones Nuked the Fridge.

And on the other end, BSlim regularly cries about any actor born after 1975 being absolute shite, and has now started this frankly disturbing trend of declaring nearly any female celebrity brought up on this site as being a transsexual.

So folks, if you like Shia, or (like me) just don't care enough to hate him, you don't have to defend it to the local cranky old man.

Now, if you will excuse me, I need to get back to thinking of Angelina Jolie having her way with Michelle Monaghan and Rosario Dawson. The way God intended.

Posted by: Vermillion at September 26, 2008 9:54 PM

Vermillion, I love the way you think! That's where the script deal should be!

Posted by: lordhelmet at September 26, 2008 9:59 PM

I believe I state my reasons for not enjoying Mr. LaBooofs body of work. They all have to do with film. Then again maybe YOUR disturbing trend of sexualizing every "hottie" born after '75 includes Shia here.

It might as well, anyone who fantasizes about Rosario Dawson is probably not very discriminating when it comes to gender.

Or maybe nobody should discuss shit on Pajiba then. Is that what you want...Or only discuss wht YOU want?

Tell us oh Master Jedi.

Enjoy.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 10:06 PM

BSlim, I've had a rough week so I'm tired and I don't want to fight anymore. Let's agree to disagree and then just make out and touch each other inappropriately. I was born after '75 so I guess that means I suck, but I'm pretty sure that sucking can only be a positive attribute under these particular circumstances, correct?

Posted by: Sarina at September 26, 2008 10:10 PM

I'm not fighting with anyone sugartits hehehehehe, we are still getting bitchy about film and film related subjects, right?


At least that's what I thought.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 10:18 PM

I was kidding.

...about the fighting, I mean. Not about the making out and inappropriate touching. I would never joke about such things.

Posted by: Sarina at September 26, 2008 10:27 PM

Tell us oh Master Jedi.

Sure thing.

1) Stop being jealous, for one. If I say I am going to mount you, then dammit, it will happen. You don't have to be snippy!

2) I really don't care who or what you are using to define gender. It just seems very...limiting to me. Then again, that could be the jealousy talking once more.

3) I think screaming you head off over an actor that gets a "meh" at best from everyone else is a waste of your bitching talents, really. There are so many more overexposed actors that deserve it a hell of a lot more than some random Disney kid that got lucky.

Posted by: Vermillion at September 26, 2008 10:30 PM

Duly note I'll give your musings, the consideration...they deserve.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 10:32 PM

*noted

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 10:33 PM

Let's take a look at what the young LaDoofus lad has in store for us next, I think this is, from an article on Pitchfork, let's take a look!

"...Yep, you read right. LaBeouf is looking to play Def Jux rapper Cage, aka Chris Palko, in a forthcoming film about the MC's life, according to an article in the December issue of SPIN. "I have been listening to Cage since I got into hip-hop when I was 12," LaBeouf said. "I grew up on the West Coast listening to a lot of 2Pac and Eazy-E, so when I found out that Cage was white, it was incredible. I'd never heard anything like that..."

Mmmmmmm

Hahahahaha...oh yeah, this kid's got some range, he's not repetitive..at all. And he keepz it realz to boot, yo.'

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 10:58 PM

I just got back from seeing it and enjoyed it. It had some gaping holes (like why is a homeland security flatfoot have codes to get to the president) and way too much shoot-em-up (at one point Shia and Billy Bob crawl out of a car accident to get into another car which also is in an accident). I liked the Big Brother (Sister?) atmosphere and how the co-stars carried the "What the hell is happening to us?" attitude throughout the movie. It's interesting that they never know what's going on, it's always the human side of Big Sister (Chilis, Thornton, and Dawson) that does. I agree that these characters were not used enough and I remember when Ethan was heralded as the Fine Young Cannibal that Shia is playing now. I have to check imdb and see if that's Julianne Moore playing Ariel. I also liked how Monohan wasn't glammed up as a young mom and how they didn't force them to be uncomfortable lovers (remember Speed?). After Bangkok and Babylon, I needed something with a story.

Posted by: sabian30 at September 26, 2008 11:10 PM

"..I liked the Big Brother (Sister?) atmosphere and how the co-stars carried the "What the hell is happening to us?" attitude throughout the movie..."

It seems like every movie he does has a similar theme, I bet he did all or any number of these things:

*behave manically
*talk really really really fast
*use the same facial expressions he (and all Disney drones) perfected on Even Stevens: grin, grimace and pout like an idiot.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 26, 2008 11:23 PM

Oh BSlim, he doesn't talk that fast. You're just listening too slowly. Also, you forgot to mention that he will trip over and/or fall off of something at some point, maybe even more than once, probably while talking to or looking at a girl.

Posted by: Sarina at September 26, 2008 11:30 PM

I'm not going to lie. I've loved Shia TheBeef since his awkward, semi-gross looking Even Stevens days. I might even have the Even Stevens movie on DVD (as well as The Greatest Game Ever Played, Holes, Disturbia, and all the sidekick ones), but I digress.

I have to defend when people say he might be assy in real life. Although I've never met him in real life, he always really great anecdotes on talk shows and seems more down to earth than the rest of those kids in showbiz that are our age. He's cool with the fact that his dad was a clown who lives in his garage with a blow up mattress and a big screen, and that his mom lives in a little person's house. Whatever dude.

Plus, I'd like to think that one day we could possibly have an awkward sexual encounter that could lead to a nicely expensive dinner. Or maybe the other way around.

ALSO he was PRECIOUS on Freaks & Geeks. ABSOLUTELY PRECIOUS.

Posted by: Kash at September 27, 2008 12:30 AM

And now that I've gone through and read the rest of the comments, to compare him with Leo at 22 or Depp or even Brando, how many movies are being made now that test the boundaries that these guys dealt with? If Shia were offered the role of Jake Gyllenhaal's younger retarded brother, I'm sure he'd take it (as long as he didn't have to go full-tard). And I know I follow Broadway, but how many people, not even younger folks, people, do you know that follow Broadway now? It doesn't garner the respect that it used to, and it should. That shit is damn hard.

And that drunk driving stuff - that's bullshit. I totally agree that celebrities should have to pay the same penalties and do the same time that us civilians do. Fucking Lohan with her DUIs and 'usable' amount of cocaine gets by with like 30 hours of community service?? I got arrested for shoplifting (hardcore, right?) and had to do more community service than that. And yet she still has her license and is insurable to work on set. The world is a fucked up place.

Posted by: Kash at September 27, 2008 12:40 AM

Vermillion, I wanna hump your leg. Let me know when you're in town.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at September 27, 2008 2:28 AM

I just hope that I'm alive two years from now when this little punk is doing time just so I can say: I TOLD YOU SO.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 27, 2008 8:43 AM

Oh, and I want to be on record as the one who called Shiajiba out on its blatant enabling and encouragement of this degenerate.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 27, 2008 9:20 AM

BSlim your new name is ShiaSlim. WTF!! not Paul Newman.

Posted by: Pookie at September 27, 2008 10:16 AM

I figured the woman on the phone was Jane from the Ender books, gone batshiat insane and just messing round with people for the fun of it. Seriously, you do not want to piss that girl off.

Posted by: naive_charm at September 27, 2008 12:04 PM

Is this still going on?!

Well. BSlim, you'll be pleased to know that it wasn't a very good movie. But it was a FUN movie. And my man didn't let me down; he was great in a role that required little of him, as usual. The revelation for me was that Billy Bob Thornton and The Commish were kind of... suck. Weird.

Anyhoodle, you'll also be pleased to know that I will not be shelling out hard-earned ducats to watch the next Transformers fiasco. If Paul Newman came back from the dead and made a cameo in that shit, I STILL wouldn't pay to see it.


...too soon?

Posted by: Mella at September 27, 2008 12:54 PM

BarbadoSlim, what's all the fuss about? The kid is vanilla ice cream. Not even the good kind with the vanilla seeds in there and everything, just the $4-a-gallon-bucket variety. It's not that good, but at least it's vaguely okay. At least you aren't eating dog food. This metaphor has gone a little weird, but hopefully you know what I mean.

And who fucking said Hayden Christensen? I will flay you. That kid has a negative pass after Star Wars. He could cure cancer and I'd still want to introduce him to my trusty Louisville Slugger, which, I might add, has roughly double his personality.

Posted by: JustJoe at September 27, 2008 1:54 PM

Wow, this movie sounds stupid. Then again, it seems like just business for Hollywoood people, and people might actually feel thrilled about it.

What I really find hard to understand is, why would anyone spend so much time and effort dissing Shia LaBeouf? The guy's able to fulfill whatever expectations studios and people may have (probably like this movie), even if he is an ass. He's always affable but not lovable, or marginally competent but no Brando, or kind of a douche but not a giant asshole. BSlim, unless you're his psycho ex girlfriend, this went just too far. I wouldn't even care but you make me want to defend the guy from the Transformers movie.

Posted by: JC at September 27, 2008 2:24 PM

I despise HIM and EVERYTHING he represents:

The new Nick/Disney Post-Douchebag Generation. Getting by on marketing, hype, blandness. Notice how many of you are just sayin' bah: "kid's alright, when compared to so and so.." HUH?
I thought we were supposed to criticize and take people to task for this sort of thing on this god damned site.

This ain't In Touch or People.com.

Jeeez And I'm the asshole.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 27, 2008 2:33 PM

You know what?

You suck Shia off, swallow his full load and then have him cream all over your faces fiiiiine with me.

Just don't start whining on other threads about how someone else is lacking in the acting skill/craft. If you like Shia, you have ZERO standards.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 27, 2008 2:39 PM

As long as the financial model stays the same for these studios, so will the production model. I agree with your principles: okay shouldn't cut it. LeBeouf being "one of the better actors under 25" stands as a monument to artless commercial film-making and those who will pay to see it.

Posted by: Just Joe at September 27, 2008 3:32 PM

DAMN, BarbadoSlim, what did this kid do to you, bitch slap you and then piss on you?

Eh, in his early twenties Brando was on Broadway, when that mattered, he proceeded to study with Adler and was perfecting that whole Stanislavski technique he used. Depp, did 21 Jump Street and then VOLUNTARILY shed his whole teeny-bopper marketing in favor of following a serious career.
DiCaprio was doing Gilbert Grape and This Boy's Life.
In other words, these folks were ACTING and honing their skill, call it their *craft*.

Sweetie, I know what honing your craft is but some actors do have to actually "work" harder at it than others, it does not come as "naturally" to some as others. And that is what I mean when I talk about Brando, Depp and DiCaprio, all whom I think were preternaturally talented and who built upon that talent...well maybe not DiCaprio.

Brando honed his acting skills long before he met Stella Adler. Though Brando was highly trained by Alder and was given a tool (Stanislavski's System of acting) which allowed him to expand upon his training. The Method is given too much credit for Brando's skill as an actor. His Via Zapata co-star Anthony Quinn made a most telling statement about Brando. "I admire Marlon's talent, but I don't envy the pain that created it." I have to agree the talent was there, Adler gave him the training to channel it.

Depp did voluntarily give up being typed-cast as a "heartthrob" and left 21 Jump Street but does that qualify him for sainthood. I mean did he give up his heartthrob status to work with AIDS orphans? Besides he had to wade through a lot of shit before he got to Platoon, Cry-Baby and Edward Scissorhands.

And don't even go there with DiCaprio because he played right into the hype after Titanic. His CV is really too uneven to be mentioned along with Brando and Depp.

All three have done strictly commercial films, Brando, A Countess of Hong Kong, Tea House of the August Moon, Bedtime Story, Depp, Priates of the Caribbean, Nick of Time, The Astronaut's Wife, hell he is slated to do Dark Shadows in 2010 and DiCaprio, Titanic, The Quick and the Dead, The Man in the Iron Mask.

I am not placing LaBeouf in his current incarnation in their league; he may never be in their league. But I am not willing to dump all over this kid because of his Disney background, because of how he is being marketed, or because others think he lacks talent.

If he turns into Zac Efron and is doing High School Musical X at age 26 or Nick Cage at age 35 doing whatever crap movie he happens to be doing then I'll be the first to call him on his shit.

Posted by: allheavens at September 28, 2008 2:46 PM

We'll see, let's follow the young lad's career.

As you ALL know, in the time I've been here I have tried to cultivate an image of fairness and objectivity.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 28, 2008 3:36 PM

I kind of liked him in Disturbia.

Posted by: "Sybil" "Knife Pile" von Beaverplatz at September 29, 2008 10:55 AM

As you ALL know, in the time I've been here I have tried to cultivate an image of fairness and objectivity.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 28, 2008 3:36 PM

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And yet all you've managed is to cultivate an image of thievery and debauchery. Haha! Burn! WHEEEEE!!

I *heart* Shia ROFLCOPTERLOLLERSKATES!! I'm so excited! I'm so excited! I'm so...so...scared.

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Posted by: Mella at September 29, 2008 11:07 AM

Shia...is mediocre, with promise I think. But he needs to grow a brass pair (of balls or ovaries, Blargh does not discriminate) and accept a role that will stretch his "everyman-charming-sassy-boy" schtick. Actually, in a deleted scene that was at the end of Constantine, he is an angel of some sort (doesn't seem like a nice one, very somber); he is sitting on top of a headstone, and he glares at the camera in a way that convinces me there might be some talent in him.

So, BSlim -- I swear you are one of the following: 1) a 14-yr-old emo kid; 2) a 38 year old internet meme-whore; 3) a smoking hot mechanic. Not sure why I think this. May you please confirm or deny any of my guesses?

Posted by: Blargh at September 30, 2008 12:38 AM

God(topus) dammit dude. I'm so cracked out on uppers studying for a midterm that I just pulled out my OED to look up the definition of 'blahtastic'.

Fuck THIS. Do I need to college degree to join the eloquents? Because if not, I'm walking RIGHT NOW.

Posted by: College Boy at September 30, 2008 3:28 AM

I was reading the comments, but then had to skip down to add my own when allheavens mentioned Jamie Bell.

I absolutely love Jamie Bell (even in Nicholas Nickleby), he made Jumper a re-watchable movie for me (and Nicholas Nickleby). I think something should be said when the supporting character gets a video game chronicling him and the main character doesn't. Also, Billy Elliot was a really great film (I know someone, who swears a ton, who didn't like the movie because she said there was too much swearing WTF?)

Also, Jamie Bell is awesome and damn sexy. Unfortunately, like my ultimate girlcrush Jessica Hynes, he seems intent on acting in movies that are difficult to find in Atlanta if you don't want to sit in a dark movie theatre where either the chairs squeak so badly you can't hear the movie (Grrr Plaza!!!) or the chairs are as sticky as the floors (Ewww Tara!!!)

Posted by: Renee at October 2, 2008 11:25 AM

who the fuck is the girl computer voice? She sounded like Julianne Moore, which I think is kinda suspect since she wouldn't be caught dead in this movie.

Posted by: tallulahc at January 15, 2009 2:20 AM

FUCK it was Julianne Moore. Sigh.

Posted by: tallulahc at January 15, 2009 2:24 AM





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