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The Curious Case of Benjamin Button / Daniel Carlson

Film Reviews | December 30, 2008 | Comments (87)


The Curious Case of Benjamin Button is easily director David Fincher’s most ambitious project to date, but it’s also his most tonally uneven and least satisfying. Although his features have been based on others’ screenplays, he’s always brought a fantastically realized sense of self and style to each of his films. The grimy vomit-noir of Seven and the minor masterpiece that was Zodiac differ in texture and sensibility, but they’re alike in their devotion to a unifying aura within their respective universes; basically, Fincher makes movies that feel complete. But The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, though filled with promised and sprinkled with moments of genuine power and connection, is ultimately too unsteady to serve as anything other than a sad reminder of the great film that lies somewhere beneath the surface.

The film opens in a New Orleans hospital room as the rain of the approaching Hurricane Katrina begins to hit the window. Daisy (Cate Blanchett) is old and dying, and she’s spending what will be her last hours alive with her daughter, Caroline (Julia Ormond). Daisy tells Caroline the story of the giant clock that used to be at the train station, a clock that ran backward, and her recollection is illustrated in the jerky, cracked style of an old film reel: It’s the first indication that Fincher isn’t just trying for something grand but for an intentionally cinematic feeling, an air of presentation that references the story’s own twists even as they unfold. But when Caroline begins to read to her mother from a battered old diary, the flashbacks take on the same polished look of the present-day scenes, and the narration shifts to the voice of Benjamin Button (Brad Pitt), who takes over from there. It’s Benjamin who tells the story of his own life, tracing the events of his unique look at coming of age. The gimmick of the film — written by Eric Roth and based on the short story by F. Scott Fitzgerald — is that Benjamin ages in reverse: Born around 1918, as an infant he looked like an old man, and as time passes, his body grows in stature and gradually becomes less gnarled and decrepit until he turns into a better-than-average-looking guy. After Benjamin’s mother dies giving birth, his horrified father leaves the wrinkled newborn on the back steps of an old folks home, where he’s adopted and raised by one of the workers, Queenie (Taraji P. Henson).

Fincher achieves the effect through a mix of makeup and CGI whose combined outcome walks the gray area between magical and unsettling. It’s Pitt’s animated face slapped on the body of someone else to make him appear to be a withered old man, as well as a modulated version of his voice. As a result, it’s impossible to relate to the character as anything other than kind-of-Pitt until he ages to the point that he can be portrayed by the actor in makeup. The early scenes in the home are also where Fincher stumbles a bit and the film slides from a drama with comic relief to a film that doesn’t quite know what tone to take. There’s the old man who talks about being struck by lightning seven times, each recollection punctuated by a brief flashback, constructed like that same old film reel, of the man being blasted from on high; these scenes are often jammed haphazardly between those dealing with Benjamin’s growing understanding of the nature of life, death, and the world around him, but it’s never clear if Fincher is trying to lighten a dark moment, darken a light one, or if he just didn’t know what to do.

But the center of the film is where the wheels begin to click and Fincher begins to tell part of a genuinely tragic love story. As a young/old man, Benjamin meets Daisy, whose grandmother lives in the home, and the two take to each other instantly. The bulk of the film, and its best moments, deal with their close friendship as it skips across time like a stone on water, with Benjamin growing younger as Daisy turns from girl to woman. Benjamin sets off to see the world when he’s 17 and looks like he’s 65, promising to write the teenage Daisy, and Fincher spends most of the lengthy second act following Benjamin’s travels and service in World War II — the tugboat he worked was pressed into service following Pearl Harbor — and Daisy’s young adulthood as she moves to New York to become a dancer. Their sporadic reunion scenes are never less than heartbreaking, too: They long ago realized they love each other more than they can admit or define, but, as is pretty much always the case, they can never connect on the timing. It’s in these reflections of doomed but compelling love, as Benjamin looks younger and Daisy looks older, that Fincher’s film finds its heart, even if only for a while. But after a certain point, the story begins to sag under the weight of its framing device, cutting back to the hospital room as Daisy and Caroline deal with the effects of the tale that’s being told. These returns to the present turn Benjamin’s story from a sprawling one into one that’s been chopped and reassembled, and they negatively transform the film from one man’s story to something more jumbled and less attainable. Had Fincher and Roth eliminated the present-day framing and relied on the strength of the core story, the film would have been tighter, truer, and more resonant.

Despite a few moments of (maybe not totally unintentional) eeriness involving the extreme ends of Benjamin’s life, the makeup and CGI are more nuanced and impressive than any other live-action feature to date. From a technical standpoint, it’s understandable that Fincher didn’t want the camera to dwell too long on Pitt’s or Blanchett’s faces when they’d been digitally buffed to a youthful sheen, but he and cinematographer Claudio Miranda make it work to their advantage by filling the film with shadows; it’s no accident that every major turning point or revelation happens when one character is cloaked in the dimness of an empty room, speaking to someone in the light of the living world. Pitt and Blanchett do wonderful work carrying a script that often seems reluctant to give them a chance to do any good together for more than a few minutes. Roth’s screenplay, despite its scope, seems to occasionally borrow too heavily from his work on Forrest Gump, from the Southern setting to the years-long love affair that just barely works to the preponderance of death, etc.

“We are not little children any more,” Daisy admonishes Benjamin when she’s getting older and he’s still a little old. It’s a fantastic line not just because it plays into the film’s key theme of loss and the transitive nature of love but because it’s a tacit acknowledgement of just how weird Benjamin’s situation is, and that Daisy knew from the start that he was a boy in an elderly body and that he’s aging inside even as his body grows younger. The simple acceptance of that fantastical way of life is sorely underplayed in the film, and though the story’s time frame allows Benjamin to live pretty easily off the grid, it would have been nice for Fincher to have dug deeper into the lives and reactions of Benjamin’s friends and loved ones as they watched him slide backward through life. But like too many other parts of the story, it just doesn’t connect. That’s the main problem with the film: Like its central characters, Fincher and the story come at each other crosswise, meeting in the middle but ultimately consigned to pass unfulfilled, knowing what might have been but unable to change what is.

Daniel Carlson is the managing editor of Pajiba and a low-level employee at a Hollywood industry magazine. You can visit his blog, Slowly Going Bald.


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Comments

I thought Tim Roth did this movie already?

Posted by: Pookie at December 26, 2008 2:59 PM

Was it just me, or were the Katrina references offensive as hell?

Posted by: whatBENwatches at December 26, 2008 3:10 PM

Great review, Daniel.

I agree that the pre-Katrina framing was awkward and that the whole thing could have been trimmed and more focused, but it's still a fascinating and emotionally earnest film. Definitely worth checking out if you're interested.

I did spend much of the film trying to work out how old he was both physically and mentally based on the spoken and implied indicators of the passage of time. It would have been neat if Fincher had just thrown up a time stamp every now and then with the date and Button's physical age (starting around 85?).

Posted by: Macafee at December 26, 2008 3:24 PM

wow...you know the trailer for this film nearly made it promising. It's unfortunate to have a film with such potential end up, to be something that should have been packaged strait to dvd. I was talking to my fiancé and we were saying that it sounds a lot like 'forest gump' as stated, 'forever young' and a little bit of the, 'polar express'
...interesting.

Posted by: Jingam at December 26, 2008 3:47 PM

I didn't want to see this, but I thought this would get a glowing review. It's a bit too weird for me.

I wish you had talked more about Henson's performance; I heard it was outstanding. She's not a fave of mine, but she got a lot of postive press.

Posted by: Brie at December 26, 2008 4:26 PM

Does he die as a fetus, or a newborn, or does he get hit by a bus when he's 4?

Posted by: Sabrina at December 26, 2008 5:20 PM

I don't know if I can take the idea of living backward seriously when I keep remembering that "Mork and Mindy" did the same thing.(Yes, I watched it. I had lousy taste as a teenager.)Apparently on Ork, people don't age, they "youthen." So when Mork and Mindy had a child, he was played by Jonathan Winters. I don't remember how they dealt with Pam Dawber delivering a full-sized man. Of course, they didn't have to deal with the child youthening for long. I think the show ended before they had to make JW younger.His birth was one of the show's jump-the-shark moments.

Posted by: rlr260 at December 26, 2008 5:40 PM

do you guys like ANYTHING? i mean, really. or rather, do you like anything that isn't some indie filled with has-been actors or newbies?

Posted by: danielle at December 26, 2008 5:58 PM

danielle: The site is subtitled "Scathing Reviews, Bitchy People." So here's the scathing review, and in posting this comment, I guess I'm fulfilling the second part of the subtitle's promise.

Posted by: whatBENwatches at December 26, 2008 6:04 PM

danielle: Actually, yes. We loved Iron Man. Also, your mom... oh wait, you said no has-beens...

whatBENwatches: Actually, that was a middling review, and I know you can be bitchier. Is holiday cheer making you soft?

Posted by: PaleoLithchick at December 26, 2008 7:03 PM

If you plan to watch this in Philly, you best plan to shut the fuck up when you do or someone might bust a cap in your ass.

Posted by: hugeinjapan at December 26, 2008 7:25 PM

Hugeinjapan:
Good thing I'm not anywhere near Philly or planning to see it now that I read the review. On the side note, your handle name is offensive. We Japanese are not THAT small despite the fact... I mean the stereotypes. Like TLC said it's hard to find good man but good to find a hard man and, may I add, as Michael Caine said in an Austin Power shitty sequel 2 "It's not the size, it's how you use it." This, of course, in no way in lieu of defending the size of our guns, I mean it would still do the job....

You know what? Our high-tech penis might be small but super efficient and high-performing, like our cars and good for everyone. So there! Get over your giant stone age excuse of useless blunder! I'm so above that!

Posted by: yocean at December 26, 2008 8:47 PM

You're saying "It ain't the size of the boat that makes the waves, it's the motion of the yocean"?

Posted by: bucdaddy at December 26, 2008 9:18 PM

Hell to the motherfuckin no! I know goddamn well ain't no japan motherfucker up in this piece talkin shit bout slanging his man-hammer. Motherfucker please, ya'll just got through diggin ya'll way up from out that rubble we left ya'll in from that bomb we dropped on ya'll ass. You goddamn right you bet not take yo rice eating ass to no Philly with no crying baby, get yo ass bitch slapped, cause that's how we roll beoooch.

Posted by: Pookie at December 26, 2008 9:44 PM

I had me a japan bitch just the other day, bitch said to me " you not get this black shoal brudder, I to tight."

Posted by: Pookie at December 26, 2008 9:54 PM

New best garage band name :'High Tech Penis'

I think the review was on the kinder side too..but have sympathy..the film was absolutely beautiful to look at wonderfully acted...but the story was very much underwritten, Brad Pitt (transitioning albeit fascinatingly from golem to jailbait to senile infancy) mostly gets by here acting aloof and reserved like he did in 'meet joe black' and then the overall pacing needed to be tighter too. Still if you like old down south New Orleans (the city deserves a best supporting nod for this one) and sad fables that make you question your own mortality over the holidays, then by all means see this in a theatre, othewise wait for the dvd

Posted by: tinman at December 26, 2008 9:56 PM

I don't know how many of you are aware of this but in the last Top Comment column TMax had a nervous breakdown and though it best that he leave Pajiba permanently. And in honor of TMax leaving I'm going to start my very own TMax clock. I shall mark the day until he returns to pajiba, or when his body is found, or which ever comes first. Tmax is missing Day 1

Posted by: Pookie at December 26, 2008 10:19 PM

bucdaddy:
That and the fictional atomic submarine. Now, that's some obscure reference.


Pookie
Ah, gotta love your predictability. I knew I can rile you up though you were never anywhere near my original intended target range. I had a high-school best friend who likened Japanese girls to Porche, compact and high-performance. They are not to be treated with blunt object or half-assed thuggery. I mean, how much of thug are you if the best you can pull is to be a violent, offensive, ladies man on an anonymous comment board for a movie review site? You are amusing, I'll give you that, but your act, and your mom, is so old and trite I won't touch her even if she looked like a Dame. Follow the suite. Get your tired sorry ass out. It's called change. get on it before you get under it's high-tech penis bullet train rail.

Oh, and that rabble? We got out of that and became the world's leading economical force by 70's. I don't believe you have enough intellectual capacity to understand how much of a feat that is. But, whatever, it made us stronger, so thanks. Now we are taking you over and riding your stupid amusing ass. Oh, and I'm also an American, so don't disappoint me by going all "go back to your country" on me> You are better than that, right, pookie boy?

Tinman
It's filled with all the youthful angry semen that moves the above-mentioned submarine, :D

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Posted by: G at December 26, 2008 11:05 PM

*Sits back with popcorn and beer, awaits fireworks*

Posted by: bucdaddy at December 26, 2008 11:10 PM

Great review, firstly.

Secondly, it also happens to be the most critical review of the film I've seen. And like I assumed would be the case, knowing the story, the film seems to falter at all the moments I knew it would. At least you called it out, versus other critics who only speak in positives like "hit it's stride when Daisy enters as a young woman" and bs like that.

Well, knowing the story wasn't that important; it was really seeing the trailer where Brad Pitt was shown at about eight or ten (I'm guessing) and looked like someone spliced Gremlins 2 with Cocoon 2 and didn't think to maybe update the graphics a bit.

Thirdly, no mention of Henson's performance? Strange. Most people I know who I wish would shut the fuck up and quit talking about this film when I haven't seen it yet do nothing but rave about her and Swinton.

Fourthly, fuck I need to see this movie tomorrow. Damn the gigantic running time to hell, I'll probably couple it with Doubt and stream Vicky Christina Barcelona after I get home and blog.

I should have saved myself the trouble and not watched Gran Torino a second time. It's too good to ignore, yet too racist for people to accept it's too good to be ignored. I don't blame the lukewarm average viewer reaction with all the "zipperheads," "slopes," "slants", "gooks," and dog eating jokes thrown about. Still, it's easily the best film I've seen since The Queen. Easily.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2008 11:37 PM

Nice tangents, but what I was referring to was that a guy literally got shot in a Philly theater for talking during this film. Try Googling phila theater shot button. Sounds like there needs to be something in addition to the pre-show reminder about silencing your cell phones.

Posted by: hugeinjapan at December 27, 2008 12:06 AM

I saw this the other day and was found it to be incredibly boring. Like painfully, horribly boring. And I saw Antarnajuat which is also in the 3 hr range, yet is in Inuit and has a lot of periods with no dialogue and yet somehow kept my attention the whole time. Button did not, take out the aging backwards part and you've got every sappy romance movie ever made. The story goes nowhere, the characters go nowhere and they bombard with you cliches. It's like instead of making a movie about a man aging backwards and dealing with the consequences and living an interesting and thought provoking life, they had a man aging backwards who lived the most boring life ever. There was one line where he talked about not wasting a moment of your life because they are so precious, and if I wasn't in the theatre with my family I would have taken that as my cue to walk out.

Posted by: The Ross Sea Party at December 27, 2008 1:45 AM

Hey hugeinjapan,

I found the article http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20081226_Phila__man_shot_because_family_talked_during_movie.html

What kills me is that the guy, after shooting a father, proceeded to sit and watch the rest of the movie in what he caused to be an empty theatre.

Like I heard somewhere once, opposite of love is not hate, its apathy.

Posted by: yocean at December 27, 2008 1:50 AM

Is it just me or were the Southern accents just terrible?

This had great potential but was just too long and too emotionally draining.

Posted by: Tina at December 27, 2008 4:21 AM

Yocean I'm sorry I wasn't able to respond to your unwarranted attack on me earlier, but I was running around all day and I was beat when I got back home. First, I never questioned your sexual prowess, only an idiot would come here to pajiba and proclaim that he has a high-tech penis, what the fuck does that even mean?


What is it exactly I've done to be called a thug, and do you normally call people you disagree with thugs? I would never tell you to go back to your country, after all you're an American. But I will say this, if Japan is so superior to America in all aspects such as economics, technology, bitches, then why are you still here?


Yes Yocean, my mom is old, good to see you can go to the my daddy can beat your daddy card. Because that's what two adults that disagree do, they talk about each other's parents, stay classy Yoc.

Posted by: Pookie at December 27, 2008 8:43 AM

*DING*

There's the bell, and it looks like the judges have awarded Round 1 to ... Pookie. Yes, he gave yocean a pretty good pounding there, but yocean took it and kept standing. But we have a long way to go, remember this is a 15-rounder, so, stick around, folks, we'll be back after these messages!

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So the point of this movie is that no matter which direction you approach life from, you end up drooling and stupid?

Posted by: bucdaddy at December 27, 2008 9:48 AM

I was semi-dragged to this movie, but I ended up being quite moved by it, especially toward the end. I thought it was worth seeing, even though it was a bit too long.

I agree that the framing device was unnecessary. I never understand why movies do that, a la Titanic. It feels lazy. If the story can't carry itself it should be revisited. That said, I thought the Blanchett/Pitt scenes worked very well as she was getting older (don't want to give anything away), but I thought they were weak earlier. I found the teenage/20s Cate pretty insufferable and couldn't understand why Brad's character was so drawn to her.

I also nearly laughed out loud when Tilda Swinton was referred to as "plain" in the movie. I think she's gorgeous and I know others disagree, but she's anything but plain.

Posted by: samantha t at December 27, 2008 11:02 AM

Pookie,

See, you are missing all sorts of point. My first comment was not about boasting my sexual prowess. It was supposed be self deprecating humor edging on desperation, so, yeah, of course High-Tech Penis is ridunkulous (or whatever the correct spelling is in this incident). Why are you acting like you are threaten by it?

And, unwarranted? That describe your firing out to me, taking your oh-so precious time out of your life to mention it on the other comment thread so I won't miss it, when nothing in my original comment meant to offend you.

And sorry you took offense in being called a thug. I thought that was what your projecting to be. Can you be more clear where your identity stands next time so it would be easier to spot that tiny sphere of influence you have on this world? I mean, I was so surprised that you had enough complication in you to cared to be classy. Hearing that from you of all people were like hearing the word "soul" from George W.

And the reason why I am here in U.S.A.? Because, after all is said and done, this country has more potential of changing than Japan and I have people I love here. That doesn't stop me from wanting things to be better everywhere, here included. I was just merely pointing out your erroneous assumption on Japan's current standing. After the 9-11 attack, someone said to my also-half-Japanese classmate that "we should bomb Japan to just in case" half joking. I mean, is that the level you wanna sink into? I hope not.

Anyway, my vitriol is properly vented. Thanks. Next time I would try to be better on your mamma etc retort. Not as seasoned and trained in internet comment war as you are, you see? But I won't let myself go down on your level and comment about Black woman I once dated.

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As for the movie, now that there are only boring and gloomy trite like this one available, I'm starting to see the appeal of Four Christmas of all things. Stupid Oscar desperation season!

Posted by: yocean at December 27, 2008 11:12 AM

Pookie,

See, you are missing all sorts of point. My first comment was not about boasting my sexual prowess. It was supposed be self deprecating humor edging on desperation, so, yeah, of course High-Tech Penis is ridunkulous (or whatever the correct spelling is in this incident). Why are you acting like you are threaten by it?

And, unwarranted? That describe your firing out to me, taking your oh-so precious time out of your life to mention it on the other comment thread so I won't miss it, when nothing in my original comment meant to offend you.

And sorry you took offense in being called a thug. I thought that was what your projecting to be. Can you be more clear where your identity stands next time so it would be easier to spot that tiny sphere of influence you have on this world? I mean, I was so surprised that you had enough complication in you to cared to be classy. Hearing that from you of all people were like hearing the word "soul" from George W.

And the reason why I am here in U.S.A.? Because, after all is said and done, this country has more potential of changing than Japan and I have people I love here. That doesn't stop me from wanting things to be better everywhere, here included. I was just merely pointing out your erroneous assumption on Japan's current standing. After the 9-11 attack, someone said to my also-half-Japanese classmate that "we should bomb Japan to just in case" half joking. I mean, is that the level you wanna sink into? I hope not.

Anyway, my vitriol is properly vented. Thanks. Next time I would try to be better on your mamma etc retort. Not as seasoned and trained in internet comment war as you are, you see? But I won't let myself go down on your level and comment about Black woman I once dated.

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As for the movie, now that there are only boring and gloomy trite like this one available, I'm starting to see the appeal of Four Christmas of all things. Stupid Oscar desperation season!

Posted by: yocean at December 27, 2008 11:12 AM

I've pretty much given up on Brad Pitt after that Jesse James movie. I preferred him with a tiny bit of self-deprecating humor but he seems to be going for the gold lately, and I don't enjoy movies that heavy-handedly attempt to manipulate my emotions. Any comparisons he once received to Robert Redford are long past.

Posted by: snapnhiss at December 27, 2008 11:33 AM

Yoc,

You still haven't giving me an answer as to why do you think I'm a thug, thug implies I'm a criminal, have I perpetrated some sort of crime on you or on anyone you know? Yes, you are much more intelligent than I, I'll give you that. But that is why it is so perplexing to me that would you bring my mother into this conversation.

I'm somewhat disheartened by your public attacks on me, I come here for good conversation and to be among friends. Your Pearl Harbor attack on my character only infuses my steely determination with a singular purpose of stamping out cultural warfare.

Now you've even sunk to a new low by trumpeting your gigolo ways as it relates to dating women. Sir, are so vain that you need to brag about having high-tech loins? I have traveled many places and have befriended many people of all social and economic classes, my faith in people still exist despite your herculean attempt to darken my love of mankind.

Posted by: Pookie at December 27, 2008 12:23 PM

I loved this movie. At times it was a bit Gump-esque, but if you don't go into this movie expecting it for what it is - a sentimental tale of an unusual, somewhat epic life - then you will be disappointed.

Also, having read Fitzgerald's original story, I think that, for all its melodrama, the screenplay actually improves upon the emotional gravitas of the story. "Benjamin Button" as a story was no Gatsby, and F. Scott seemed instead to treat it as a mere "curious" concept: what would happen if someone aged in reverse? What Roth and Fincher do with that intriguing frame was to create a meditation on youth, death, timing, and love, with actual characterization that (to me) was lacking in the source. Is it entirely successful, the best movie I've ever seen about these topics? No. But it was engrossing, entertaining, emotional (it played me like a fiddle, and I'm not afraid to admit it), and as the reviewer said, ambitious. Overall, a good film.

Oh, and about the Katrina framing: I actually though that in a way, it worked. Even though you care about these characters and Benjamin's interesting condition, the story really contemplates the inevitability and universality of death. Because New Orleans was so significant as a setting, and because everyone in the audience knows the end result of that storm, I think it prompts people to consider the real-life implications of life and death, not just the fantastical story itself. At least, it caused my family to discuss that on our drive home from the theatre.

Posted by: Ariel at December 27, 2008 12:40 PM

Nice comment Ariel, but there's a war going on here sugar.

Posted by: Pookie at December 27, 2008 12:48 PM

Pookie:

Hey can we be done? You kinda lost me there and I'm sorry about your mother comment okay? That was my lame attempt at my misguided view on what you might do or enjoy.

You are the only angry one here. Okay. Now I'm gonna go see Gran Torino.

Wishes and Wings brotha!

Posted by: yocean at December 27, 2008 1:37 PM

Pookie:

Hey can we be done? You kinda lost me there and I'm sorry about your mother comment okay? That was my lame attempt at my misguided view on what you might do or enjoy.

You are the only angry one here. Okay. Now I'm gonna go see Gran Torino.

Wishes and Wings brotha!

Posted by: yocean at December 27, 2008 1:38 PM

Is that some sort of veiled threat you're making by saying you're going to go see Gran Torino? I'm sure you'll recognize some of your homies, so how long have you been a member of the Yukuza, and is it true you have to cut off one of your fingers to show loyalty?

Posted by: Pookie at December 27, 2008 1:54 PM


"Why can't we start old
and get younger?"

Iona, Pretty in Pink

Posted by: goldend at December 27, 2008 2:08 PM

Oh I almost forgot, TMax is missing: Day 2.

Posted by: Pookie at December 27, 2008 3:27 PM

Both fighters start Round 2 on the defensive, almost apologetic, a little faint jabbing, trying to get a read on the other guy and ... WHOA! Pookie lands a BIG roundhouse Yukuza to the head and there's a crushing follow-up "finger of loyalty"! And DOWN GOES YOCEAN! DOWN GOES ...

*DING*

Wow, saved by the bell, he was there. They have to help yocean back to his corner. Folks, Round 2 clearly belongs to Pookie.

Back after these messages.

*pops another beer*

Posted by: bucdaddy at December 27, 2008 3:52 PM

Yes, but does the Brad Pitt Die?

okay, this is getting old...

Posted by: Withnail at December 27, 2008 4:10 PM

Wow, is this the same Pookie that called me an asshole for comparing a Tyler Perry movie to the Holocaust, up here using the Hiroshima bombing to execute a dick joke? Hellooo Hypocracy!

Posted by: smatt584 at December 27, 2008 4:21 PM

*pops another beer*

Posted by: bucdaddy at December 27, 2008 3:52 PM

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*here*

*throws beer*

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 27, 2008 4:28 PM

Hazing by Pookie is a sign that you've made it to the big leagues. All true Eloquents must face this trial by fire. Thank the Godtopus that the eye of Pook has turned towards you. It is a great honor.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at December 27, 2008 5:32 PM

Banks? Thanks!

*catches beer*

There seems to be a commotion in the yocean corner. Will he answer the bell for Round 3?

Posted by: bucdaddy at December 27, 2008 5:40 PM

Mr. Rhyme, I apologize if i have offended your people. Please forgive my ignorance, as your customs are still new and strange to me. Accept my humbled apologies lest your fierce and vengeful God smite me with his/her sexual and/or racial furor.

Posted by: smatt584 at December 27, 2008 7:03 PM

Smatt584, please forgive me for saying those awful things to you, but if you're like me you know that in warfare anything goes. bucdaddy, from this moment forward let it be known that Pookie does not seek fights, but he will defend himself when attacked. I do not take any joy in what I've done to Yocean. I pray for peace, but train for war.

Posted by: Pookie at December 27, 2008 7:21 PM

I feel that tomorrow will be a brighter day...

Except i live in Seattle where the weather is shit right now. Damn.

Posted by: smatt584 at December 27, 2008 7:47 PM

Let me start this comment by saying that I'm an incredibly bitter individual. I'm angry, pissed off, and I haven't seen a decent movie since Zack and Miri.

That being said, I loved this movie. I needed to see it. It was relaxing, entertaining, and the concept was great too. Plus, Brad Pitt's acting is criminally underrated, probably because men of his looks aren't known for having his acting ability. But the man can act, and that needs to be said.

So quit your bitching and enjoy the movie. Some of these people agree with me, some don't. But the movie is good, and if you stop bitching about what could have been, than maybe you can finally enjoy the movie. Plus, the effects were handled very nicely, I think they did an excellent job avoiding the uncanny valley.

Besides, the best films that have come out this year other than this are Iron Man, The Dark Knight, Zack and Miri, and Wall-E. The odds of those films getting noticed at the Oscars are slim at best, now at least I'll have something to root for.

Posted by: George at December 27, 2008 8:28 PM

What's a movie?

Posted by: smatt584 at December 27, 2008 8:35 PM

I enjoyed it. nuff said.

Posted by: Colin at December 27, 2008 9:18 PM

Oh god, shut up. I know some of you are supposed to be big Pajiba heroes and all, but you're annoying as hell.

Posted by: Ali at December 27, 2008 10:18 PM

Oh god, shut up. I know some of you are supposed to be big Pajiba heroes and all, but you're annoying as hell.

Posted by: Ali at December 27, 2008 10:18 PM

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Oh and I bet you think you you are hot shit in a Champagne glass, but you are just cold diarrhea IN A DIXIE CUP! ....err *cough* *cough*

Sorry SORRY, been watching the Venture Bros box set...hehehehe.. YOUR NAME IS BITCH!

hahahahaha...sorry again.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 27, 2008 10:31 PM

Ali for Eloquent Eloquence!

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at December 27, 2008 10:32 PM

Pookie,

That's an excellent policy.

Me, I take the side of neither peace nor war. I'm simply keeping score.

Posted by: bucdaddy at December 27, 2008 10:42 PM

Oh, and in all seriousness, the pure disdain shown by Ali for "pajiba heroes" and other things I've been noticing for a couple of weeks (not the least of which is a certain admin here who: "hates the same seven motherfuckers always posting and making him sick" ....leads me to believe this place is just about done.

It's been real.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 27, 2008 10:45 PM

Wait, there was hazing going on? I don't really feel like I lost on comment war, but if that the rule to enter this self congratulatory circle jerk you call online community, more power to you.

Pookie, or Mac daddy on the hill (that's the better wording isn't it?). Since when do you decide what gets to be a new low? I think the reason for your hazing and all that unfounded bashing is your attempt to protect the turf your curved out. But, please, don't mistake this for anything "public." You are the one trying to make it more private and your don't like to be called out you area just a king on a tiny hill with transparent robes. And how do you take thing like High-tech Penis seriously? Really, how low is your sense of security? I'm worried about you. I mean, how do you find threat in every miniscule thing and be content with yourself? That's some feat.

You know, you are one of the reasons I don't make much comment here. You have been put on the dais without knowing the fate that awaits all heroes that becomes a tyrants is to be drugged down and killed for the enjoyment of the public you so adore. Well, they are irritated and bored with your trite crap. You've been up there long enough. Get off it before you get dispatched and thrown aside. How's that for an unveiled threat?

To answer your questions, first, there are actual difference between Hmong people and Japanese people, like there are different Caucasians and so many different type of people living in Africa. And whoever thinks racial categorizing and stereo-typing makes you edgy or something, get real. You are just showing how dumb you are and nothing else. And you think mentioning Pearl Harbor would get some response? There's a word for people like you who act like they are still in Junior High when they are online in Japan: "Permanent 14 syndrome"

Secondly, Yakuza do cut their finger, pinkies first, when they make mistakes or dishonor their family or themselves. Or sometime, just to show that they are serious about some deal. They were once behind the economical uprising in war-torn country. That's why Hiroshima Yakuza are known to be most dangerous. They had principles. But these days, they make money mostly making porn and selling some drugs.

And if you want this to continue, mark my word, I will dismantle you and take you down word by word, dignity by dignity and a fragile ego driven finger by finger. I don't like to pounce on the weak, but I would enjoy crushing you till you change your way.

Oh, and Gran Torino was awesome. So funny yet sad.

Posted by: yocean at December 28, 2008 12:22 AM

On the second thought, fuck commentary war. I don't need to spend my time and energy on making you better. I have better things to do. Frankly dear, I don't give a damn.

So, I will not respond to any hateful , offensive or otherwise stupid comments. I'd still lurk here and occasionally comment cuz I like this site but feel no need to be initiated into your stupid clique.

Posted by: yocean at December 28, 2008 5:46 AM

On the second thought, fuck commentary wars. i don't need to spend my time and energy to make you better. I got a better thing to do and I neither care or feel the need to be initiated in your stupid clique.

I will still come her for reviews and would comment occasionally but won't response to anything I will find offensive, hateful, or otherwise stupid.

Frankly dear, I don't give a damn.

Posted by: yocean at December 28, 2008 5:53 AM

I saw this movie on Friday and absolutely loved it. Yes, it could have been trimmed by maybe 30 minutes, but the acting was great, the scenery was beautiful, and I found the storyline to be compelling.

That said, I agree with Ali. Could you folks just comment about the movie instead of wasting time by trying to prove who has the bigger penis?

Posted by: teresam at December 28, 2008 8:01 AM

Porn! Sweet Jesus! The Yakuza makes porn? Well color me interested Yocean. But seriously dude, you might want to rethink quoting "Gone with the wind," next thing you know you'll be saying that "Queen" is your favorite rock band. That's how rumors get started, then it ends up with some guy allegedly hitting you in the seat.

Posted by: Pookie at December 28, 2008 8:34 AM

Oh god, shut up. I know some of you are supposed to be big Pajiba heroes and all, but you're annoying as hell.

Ali: At least when the women take over a comment section, we get to read fun stuff like boob-foundling and euphemisms for naughty bits.

This is a shame, indeed.

I will still come her for reviews and would comment occasionally but won't response to anything I will find offensive, hateful, or otherwise stupid.

yocean: Amazingly, most folks end up doing the same thing after meeting Pookie, myself included. It is a excellent cure for internet addiction.

Posted by: Vermillion at December 28, 2008 8:37 AM

Well well well, look what the cat drug in. Look everybody, its V, and he's here to tell us he's above the nonsense. V, shouldn't you be getting ready for church? Cause in hot-lanta ya'll do church real fancy and shit, with yer linens and yer gators.

Posted by: Pookie at December 28, 2008 8:56 AM

Okay, now I'm stuck picturing Vermillion walking a gator into church-- and I don't even know what he looks like, y'all.

Well, Vermillion. The gator is about 7 feet long and has a blue satin bow tied around its neck.

Posted by: PaleoLithchick at December 28, 2008 9:46 AM

PaleoLithchick, V knows exactly what I'm talking about when I mention gators and linens.

Posted by: Pookie at December 28, 2008 9:50 AM

I came by here on a Sunday morning to read the review for this movie and, for some reason, stuck around for some of the comments. Sweet jeebus, don't you people have anything better to do than talk to your internet friends/foes/whatever all weekend? I mean, I'm eight months pregnant and don't have the most swingin social life right now, but I STILL don't have time for this nonsense. Dan -- love your reviews. Commenters -- goddamn, are you people annoying.

Posted by: bf at December 28, 2008 10:39 AM

I don't know pregnant lady, but maybe we make comments because the guy that runs this website wants us to make comments. Shouldn't you be laying down and having someone rub your feet?

Posted by: Pookie at December 28, 2008 11:21 AM

I saw this yesterday with some friends who had come into town from Louisiana. One of whom we were living with for Katrina, and she was part of our long evacuation caravan.
Anyway, we get comfy and immediately there's local Katrina news footage that we haven't seen since 2005. It was unsettling. It didn't make much sense for the context of the movie and, sure, we were bound to feel a little taken aback by it. But it was such an odd thing to see. We talked about it afterward and figure that since Pitt got on the NOLA rebuilding train while he was filming this, he wanted to include something about the area. Which is fine. It just felt weird. And then we started discussing which part of the lakefront the summer home was on, picking out landmarks---I'm really homesick now.

As far as the rest of the movie, I liked it. It wasn't amazing, and it was certainly uneven, but parts of it were so gently told that I left feeling a little charmed by the whole thing.

Posted by: Sharon at December 28, 2008 1:20 PM

I just wanted to apologize for annoying some with my off-movie comments.

I long for the day when you can make a funny, at least in intention, comment without someone goading you into a war that nobody wants.

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On the movie related notes. I come to this site because their reviews are pretty much spot on for my taste. I LOVED Gran Torino and Yes Man I snuck into was as desperate and unfunny as the review here suggested. But I stuck because I love Zoey Deschanel (Her and Rachel Mc Adams, i just can't resist) and the message of the movie kinda talked to me. Funny thing was I laughed way harder with Gran Torino than with Funny Man, a supposed comedy. Jim Carey desperate was painful to see. So, since I love films, I probably find the reason to spend three hours watching this one,too. It's a Holiday season and I clearly have too much time on my hand :P

Posted by: yocean at December 28, 2008 1:39 PM

I floved it! That is all.

Posted by: shiningstar28463 at December 28, 2008 3:08 PM

You guys hit the nail on the head - eliminate the present-day crap, and you would have had a beautiful story. I found the Katrina angle to be tasteless and pointless.

Posted by: book owl at December 28, 2008 8:33 PM

You know what, they could have kept the Katrina bits without actually naming it. The fact that they put footage up, named the storm . . . too much of an anchor for the present, actually pinpointing a day.
They could have let it be any storm, since the behavior prior to landfall was typical of any other storm season.
I'm curious, though, why some find it offensive. I know why my friends and I were a little put off, but we pretty much feel that way about any cinematic or artistic references to that time. It stings. But what's behind the reaction for others?

Posted by: Sharon at December 29, 2008 1:17 AM

Yocean, you can sign me up for a man with a funky new high-tech penis. I tell you, I am sick to death of those low-tech, low performance peni (plural of penis?) that constantly try to slide into the wrong hole and only work once! Maybe it's time I tried out some super efficient highly performing penis! But first, a couple of questions. Is this an import only product? Is a high-tech penis similar to other high tech gadgets and software - highly hyped prior to arrival, suffering from delivery delays (perhaps not a detriment in this context) and then not only failing to deliver on the promises but also not delivering on the expected basic services and compatibilities? Maybe I should wait for the consumer review.

Posted by: Iwantsprinkles at December 29, 2008 2:16 AM

Which admin says the comments/commentors make them sick? I missed that somehow. Be careful what you wish for Pajiba...

Posted by: Be Adequite! at December 29, 2008 2:59 AM

What the hell, people? What is going on here? Have you all lost your mind during the holidays? Is it because, deep down, you all miss Rowles? The shepperd leaves and the sheep start attacking each other?

What's with the wolves coming out of nowhere? Don't pretend you're better than the rest of us. We're all sheep, people. And we're sharing the same pasture.

Allow me to remind you of our anthem:
Baa-ram-ewe. Baa-ram-ewe. To your breed, your fleece, your clan be true. Sheep be true. Baa-ram-ewe.

That's better. Oh, and Pookie?

what the fuck does (a high-tech penis) even mean?

*pulls Optimus' pants down*

Posted by: Sofía at December 29, 2008 9:13 AM

I do think the Katrina references were done with the best of intentions given Pitt's and Jolie's philanthropy in the area. I did like the image of the clock getting submerged with water at the end, too.

Posted by: samantha t at December 29, 2008 9:55 AM

This review did not go far enough. The movie wasn't aggressively bad but there was little to get excited about. It was mostly a 3 hour snoozefest. I really didn't see where there was a good movie within. The central premise of a man aging backwards was intriguing, but the reactions of all those around him were mystifying. In reality this guy would have been if not a national celebrity then certainly a medical one. Yet for everyone around him it was if he had a common cold. The present day interludes were unnecessary and distracting but without them it would still have been a dull movie.

As for the performances, everyone was uniformly good, but no one stood out and if anyone wins an award for this I'll know it was just a really shitty year for acting.

I was disappointed. I am a big fan of Fincher. For me this movie was the worst of his career.

Finally, was anyone else annoyed at the director's decision to film about 20 minutes in the middle of the movie as if there were "raindrop shadows" all over the film stock?

Posted by: Ed Newman at December 29, 2008 11:17 AM

It was a pretty ambitious and difficult movie to direct, and a challenging one at that. Fincher likes challenging movies and the weight of this one sagged in the middle and was a bit long, but there were some pretty good lines in it and at least the message was positive. I don't think the movie was the worst of his career either, but it could have been better. It was definitely uneven and I'm not sure what I think about it. But it was Forrest Gump-ish, which I didn't mind, but that's the writer for you.

Posted by: ph at December 31, 2008 2:14 PM

This movie was SO BORING!

"Bla, bla, bla. I'm hold and young at the same time. I'm a metaphor for the history of New Orleans as an old city and then I got washed away and am having trouble surviving as a new city with a clean slate, I.E. baby. Y'all, Ma'am, Sir, Spanish Moss, Collard Greens and Jambalaya."

Unrelated note: Anyone want to write my Graduate school application essays?

Posted by: JohnnyVonAwesome at January 1, 2009 6:57 PM

Apparently Pajiba dwellers don't like this style of movie...?

Frankly, it didn't bore me at all. I found it to be intriguing, charming and endearing. I saw no "confusion" of tone, it was funny, touching AND sad. Why can't a movie have complex layers of tone? What's wrong with laughing a little when you're not crying? I actually think it strikes a wonderful balance there. You just need to go into it expecting to laugh and cry, and not being ashamed or overly preoccupied about it.

And truth be told,
I didn't catch that it was Katrina until I came to this site and saw all the whining about it. To me, it was simply a hurricane. Okay, that's an extra detail or few, but it's not like they shout KATRINA KATRINA KATRINA. It's on the tv screen maybe, here and there, it's nowhere near as blatant or obvious as the actual STORY events of the movie.

I do agree that this movie could have been a tad better, but to call it boring is simply absurd, unless it's really, really not your "kind" of movie. Yes, it's slow. Yes, it's quiet. But I for one have the attention span for it, and I greatly enjoyed its timeless feel and subtlety. It's like reading a book, it allows you to soak in and enjoy it before it's over.

Fincher can do better, but I think, considering how ambitious a task this was, he did a fine job with the material.

Posted by: Anon at January 2, 2009 5:56 AM

Benjamin Button was very Fincher-esque... almost as good as his other stuff if not for some nagging plot holes

Posted by: coffee fiend at January 2, 2009 10:19 AM

I watched this movie...Pirated of course..i'm actually pretty sad that I wasted some of my bandwidth on this shithole of a movie. Thank God I didn't pay to watch it. Thank god I had Scrubs reruns playing on the tv while watching it on my laptop so I wasn't completely brain-dead by the end of the movies. Actually you want to know the best part of the movie? The credits.. It gave me time to reflect on my life and think "why the fuck did I just watch that" Anyway thanks for reading - Oh, and by the way I am the Judge now, and Pookie wins. I don't know what round it is but honestly I just don't care enough to actually read through all of you pathetic excuses for "reviews" or "comments" whatever you call them. sorry

Posted by: Father at January 3, 2009 1:24 AM

I fell asleep almost at the end, but the whole thing was too long. It lagged in certain places, making what could've been a good movie to mediocre. I wish they had the insight to edit some scenes. Although, Cate, as always, was exceptional. I'm not sold on Brad. It's really not his best role, 7even comes to mind.

Posted by: tallulahc at January 3, 2009 3:06 PM

This movie was way too long. Brad Pitt basically played the same character as in Meet Joe Black, "Death." Cate Blanchett was hot. I would give the movie to its supporting cast; they made it watchable, especially the actress who portrayed Queenie.

Posted by: andewot at January 5, 2009 12:47 AM

It's an extremely entertaining film. For me, it worked on many levels.

Certainly worth seeing. Don't let this review discourage you.

Posted by: Erik at January 5, 2009 1:31 AM

This thread is stupid and boring now with you boring stupidheads talking about the stupid boring movie now.
I miss Pookie. =(

Posted by: jamiepants at January 5, 2009 5:34 PM

I tire of reviewers who need to feel like they are the first to discover something negative about anything that is too well-like or well-recieved. Just because it's popular doesn't mean it did something wrong that only a great mind like yours can concieve. More of the same (except differnt) from the burn-after-reading review. Because it went under the radar and was admittedly smart (in that it didn't spell things out for the audience) the reviewer liked it. So predictable. I miss insightful pajiba.

Posted by: mollination at January 22, 2009 12:09 PM