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Conversations with Other Women / Dustin Rowles

Film Reviews | August 16, 2006 | Comments (22)


Does anyone else find it odd that two of the most common themes in literature are divorce and adultery, yet they rarely appear in films anymore? Hollywood is always about the quirky couple, the budding romance, and the inevitable airport scene. I mean, I enjoy a good Cusackian love story as much as the next guy, but there’s more truth in one great tale of adultery or the breakup of a marriage than all of Cameron Crowe and Nora Ephron’s films combined. Even this summer’s Vince Vaughn/Jennifer Aniston flick, The Break-Up — which failed on almost every level — still possessed more honesty about the human condition than probably any other film released this summer. And the one thing that irked me about other reviews for it was that so many critics wondered why we’d want to go to the movies to watch someone else fight. Well, that was the only goddamn thing I wanted to see in The Break-Up because — sans the witty retorts and the Vince Vaughn boom-shake — the reasoning behind not wanting to wash the dishes was the one goddamn thing with which I could identify.

And yet, the last two great films about real “adult” issues that I can remember were both released in the same month, two years ago: The Door in the Floor and one of the best infidelity movies I’ve ever seen, We Don’t Live Here Anymore. I suppose I understand the reasoning behind the dearth of adult-oriented flicks; there’s not a lot of commercial appeal to a movie that’s difficult to watch, that hurts in a way you don’t really want to hurt, and that eschews escapism in favor of dense conversations about one’s motivation to sleep with someone else. But I think there is so much more to learn about oneself and one’s relationship by watching someone else’s gradually fall apart onscreen, and I just wish that the studios had more courage and audiences had a stronger sensibility for stomaching a movie about the unmaking, the remaking, or the failed remaking of a couple that doesn’t end each sentence with a punchline. After all, most of us experience great relationships only once or twice in our lives, and yet we all seem to suffer through countless bad ones.

Conversations with Other Women is one of those films with excellent leads but zero box-office potential; it is an “adult” film in the strictest sense and, unless you’ve suffered through your own failed long-term relationships, it holds little appeal. In fact, even for those who have, I suppose it’s hard to get worked up enough to run to the multiplex simply because you can identify with a divorced couple seemingly incapable of finding closure, which is probably why Conversations only opened on 13 screens and will most likely disappear from those by next weekend.

Conversations starts out innocently enough with an unnamed man (Aaron Eckhart) approaching an unnamed woman (Helena Bonham Carter) at a wedding that’s winding down. On its face, it appears only that he wants to get laid, and that she may or may not share a similar train of thought. It’s his sister getting married, and she’s only attending the wedding out of morbid curiosity, because her ex-husband is in attendance. She is remarried to cardiologist, and he is in an empty relationship with a girl named Sarah (“a poem, in two syllables”), who’s half his age. The flirtation between these two goes on for quite a while, and it is mostly clever. But there is an odd sense of animosity and affection in their banter, and a weird subtext that isn’t at first clear, until it is gradually revealed that they once knew each other. In fact, “he” is actually “her” ex-husband.

Once this fact becomes clear, the conversation gains a new sense of levity. They are meeting for the first time since their divorce, some 10 years ago. We are not privy to the details of their marriage’s demise, but two things seem certain: They were both quite in love with each other, and the divorce was painful for both parties. I suspect the best way to encapsulate their relationship is this: It is as though Jesse and Celine from Linklater’s Before Sunrise finally got hitched, divorced several years later, and then met again a decade thereafter. The conversation, in fact, has a very similar feel to that of Linklater’s Before Sunrise/Sunset films, though there is little sense of optimism, and the tiny pangs of hurt build as post-divorce revelations are made.

It’s difficult to describe the incumbent feelings the two are experiencing in a movie review. But you can probably imagine what it might feel like to meet an ex-spouse many years later. There is an overwhelming feeling of ownership, I would imagine. As in, you feel like you know this person, you own a history together, and yet all of that is betrayed by the intervening decade of experience. Your ex, whom you once spent each night of your life with, is now married to someone else and, though you have moved on with your life, you might still feel an inextricable bond via that shared relationship. And I suppose that, in a very primeval sense, you’d want to remark your territory. Or you’d want closure. Or the things you once loved about the person would resurge, and the things that led to the failure of the relationship would have been erased by time. Or maybe it’s all of this. I dunno. But, it’s all very tied up in the conversations between “him” and “her.”

I suspect that, for a certain class of people with ex-spouses, Conversations with Other Women is infinitely relatable. Divorce, without children, obviously results in a weird death of a relationship, especially if you don’t share the same friends. And meeting many years later, I can imagine it feels as though a ghost of it has resurfaced, affording you an opportunity to say all the things you wanted to say, to find out what has happened since, and — of course — to fleetingly re-experience that once great love, unburdened by consequence, which is exactly what he and she do here. However, there are no tears, no histrionics, and no melodramatics. It’s just conversation. But it’s no less affecting.

I should also mention the conceit behind Conversations with Other Women, because clearly even a good story in the indie world cannot get made without a conceit. Hans Canosa, who directs the film, actually splits the screen for the entire running time. Though it is somewhat grating at first, it ultimately works, allowing the audience to see each side of the conversation as it happens without having to break away for a reaction shot. There is a lot going on in each actor’s face of one side of the equation while the other is speaking, and both Eckhart and Bonham-Carter take excellent advantage of the opportunity to emote. In fact, though both Eckhart and Bonham-Carter have a string of great performances behind them, there’s a heartbreaking nuance in their split-screen performances here that rises to a level unmatched in either’s previous work. It’s a goddamn shame no one will see either side.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives in a blue house with his wife in a hippie colony/college town in upstate New York. You may email him, or leave a comment below.


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Comments

Wow. Helluva review Dustin, and you're right... NO ONE is going to see this. And it seems that some of us will keep an eye out for it, and then watch it, and then feel a weird regret/joy about seeing it.

That's not necessarily a bad thing.

Posted by: TK at August 16, 2006 3:49 PM

Excellent review... even with the spoiled plot twist ( :P ), I want to see this movie.

Posted by: Brit at August 16, 2006 4:16 PM

Oh, and I appreciate the Damien Rice reference. :)

Posted by: Brit at August 16, 2006 4:17 PM

no chance, football season is around the corner, the girls can enjoy this one on a sunday afternoon..thank-you

Posted by: pasadenamike at August 16, 2006 4:20 PM

Damn, I didn't hear anything about this. And my local theater will never play it!


And I have such a crush on Helena Bonham-Carter, too. Ah well, there's always DVD/rental.

Posted by: anaxa at August 16, 2006 4:22 PM

Nice Damien Rice reference. Also, Carter is consistently great in her roles, as is Eckhart...but you're right, no one will see this.

Posted by: em at August 16, 2006 5:00 PM

I just added it to mt Netflix queue. Thanks for the heads-up.

Posted by: Al Christensen at August 16, 2006 5:15 PM

Ah cannonball.

Posted by: Kevin at August 16, 2006 6:25 PM

When you float like a cannonbaaaaaal. I love Helena Bonham Carter. So psyched to hear she is going to be Bellatrix LeStrange in the new Harry Potter. I will definitely check this one out on DVD since I checked our art house theater and it's not there nor coming soon.

Posted by: wontingwitch at August 16, 2006 9:45 PM

I saw this at the Sonoma Film Festival several months ago and loved it, but I agree that it has no box office potential. It's really is a shame no one will watch it.

Posted by: Mouse at August 16, 2006 11:41 PM

Damn, just the review of this was painful in that way. Didn't help that "O" was the album I listened to throughout my own capital-letter-B-reakup.



Dustin, your description of those "ownership" feelings is exactly right. And as much as it hurts to think of again, it's also heartening, in a misery loves company kinda way, to have it so succintly put.
But isn't that exactly why we would want to see this kind of movie?

Posted by: isabelle at August 17, 2006 12:35 AM

Wonderful review Dustin, thank you. I'll make a point of seeing this film.

Posted by: lexie at August 17, 2006 12:56 AM

i don't think no one will see it. It got the cover of one of the weekly magazines here in Toronto- it is the indie movie to see of the week, people see those. And especially with this type of review and the way it spreads, becomes common, it is something special. I actually heard that it wasn't so great but after reading this review I think I'll see it. I really LOVED 'AKA' which also used a split screen and came out a few years ago at the festivals.

Posted by: adrianne at August 17, 2006 3:26 AM

speaking of Damien Rice, what about 'Closer'? that was a gut punch adultery movie if i ever saw one... was that more than 2 years ago? all i know is i saw it once, and never want to see it again.

Posted by: crafty at August 17, 2006 10:14 AM

God I love Helena Bonham Carter, she's one of the greatest actresses of our time and no one ever notices her. She gives so much depth to her characters because she has so much skill and they always feel so complete. There's no one-dimensionality with her...perhaps in her earlier films, but she's always been spot on. This film looks as painful as Closer was, which I rented and felt really depressed afterwards. I love Helena, so I'll probably rent this and watch it alone...

Posted by: Gina at August 17, 2006 2:23 PM

mmm, damien rice. i absolutely love him, and "cannonball."
anywho, i'll probably rent this. no way in hell it'll come to my town with its 3,000-person population.

Posted by: cassie at August 18, 2006 2:55 PM

I live in Philadelphia, and am willing to travel to see this movie. Does anyone know where it's playing nearby?

Posted by: La Femme Nikita at August 19, 2006 10:05 AM

I'd also like to point out this rare occasion where an actor/actress are about the same age and team up (indeed, HBC's older than AE). Bravo!

I think Aaron Eckhart has an unreal amount of charisma (love Helena, but Aaron's getting no love in the comments yet!). I thought he kicked ass in "Thank You for Smoking" and can't imagine anybody else in the role.

Posted by: Samantha T at August 20, 2006 10:33 AM

The break-up most faithfully portrayed the human condition?!?! Well, maybe if the human condition is anorexia and a perennial frat party. I'm a little worried about you.

Posted by: kiki at August 20, 2006 9:13 PM

"In fact, "he" is actually "her" exhusband."

Dustin, who are you quoting here?

Posted by: BitterB at August 21, 2006 1:32 PM

Eckhart is the bomb, and interesting that he appears in this movie, as he also appears in two of the other great relationships-are-actually-complicated-and-often-don't-work-out movies that Dustin pines for (and two of my all-time favorites): "In the Company of Men" and "Your Friends and Neighbors." Great shows, and unflinching, gut-wrenching mirrors on how and why we hurt others and allow ourselves to be hurt.

On a lighter note to the Pajiba guys, my roommate just borrowed Arrested Development from a friend, so I will be devouring the first season over the course of the next week or so. Seems great so far.

Posted by: Eep at August 26, 2006 8:12 PM

Hmm, I thought this looked like an interesting movie, but usually, helena bonham carter's performances are pretty painful for me to watch. Maybe it's just me, but I always feel as if she plays a role as who she imagines herself to be: a bored, indie, misunderstood, "the world hates me cuz I'm SUCH a weirdo" kind of person. And that ticks me off, but since I really enjoy Eckhart's acting, maybe I'll rent it...

Posted by: lena at August 27, 2006 1:59 AM





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