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Charlie Bartlett / Dustin Rowles

Film Reviews | February 21, 2008 | Comments (94)


It’s strangely ironic that, in just yesterday’s review, I was ruing the absence of decent teen films, specifically the dearth of teen dramedies that thematically grabbed onto the Pump Up the Volume baton; ironic because Charlie Bartlett is the best approximation of that film to come through the multiplex since Hard-On Harry talked his way to the big house. In fact, first-time screenwriter Gustin Nash (who will write the Youth in Revolt script next) should probably even pony up a percentage of his take to Allan Moyle. Not that I’m complaining, mind you — you could do a lot worse than rip off the film that was not only the coup de grace of the John Hughes era, but a film that introduced an entire generation of teenagers to Lenny Bruce (show of hands: How many folks ran out and bought How To Talk Dirty and Influence People after watching Volume? And how many people used “Wienerschnitzel” as their answering machine message? Just me, then?)

Indeed, Bartlett may as well be an unofficial remake: Exchange Hard On Harry for Bartlett, pirate radio for pharmaceuticals and therapy, and Samantha Mathis for Kat Dennings, and you’ve got extremely similar films, though Bartlett does throw in a few Rushmore nods and an alterna-Harold and Maude musical vibe, which probably makes it even more appealing to adults than teenagers, who are likely too busy text-speaking and recycling to bother rising up against the administration in the school cafeteria (query me this, tweeners: Just how much of your identity iswrapped up in your ringtone these days?)

In Bartlett, Charlie is a kid who doesn’t realize he’s not an adult because his mother (Hope Davis) has treated him as one since Charlie’s dad went to prison. Charlie, meanwhile, has been kicked out of a series of private schools and finally forced to into a public one, where, honestly, he just wants to be liked. Trouble is, a decent understanding of literature and a modicum of intelligence elicits a beat down in public school (nice to know nothing changes), and Charlie becomes the victim of bully tyrants who don’t like the Latin emblem on his jacket. So, Charlie — who has been misdiagnosed with ADD — subdues his tormenter, Murphy (Tyler Hilton) with some pyschobabble and convinces him to be his business partner in a pharmaceutical business: Charlie diagnoses his classmates in the boys’ restroom, mimics the symptoms for various shrinks around town, and sells the drugs to his peers. Before long, Charlie’s drugs and therapy skills earn him Ferris Bueller status, as well as the title “boyfriend to the principal’s daughter (Dennings).” The principal (Robert Downey), meanwhile, is a pushover drunk; a sympathetic authoritarian, but an authoritarian all the same. Principal Grant encourages Charlie to do right by his popularity, while also warning him away from his daughter. Alas, things go swimmingly for Charlie until a student attempts to overdose on Charlie’s prescribed pills (see the Volume parallels?) and his Charlie-empowered classmates rise up against the administration’s decision to install video cameras in the school.

Granted, Charlie Bartlett’s storyline is as conventional as its Hughesian forbearers, but it’s significantly less glossy — there’s a certain indie aesthetic to Charlie that, sadly, will likely turn away a lot of its intended audience, who’d probably prefer to see Briana Evigan’s abdominal muscles or Taylor Kitch’s pecs (not that I can talk; there was a lot to be said for Samantha Mathis’ “Everybody Knows” scene in Volume).

But while Charlie isn’t nearly as good as a film likeJuno, it does have considerably more authenticity: No one tries, for instance, to impress you with quirky dialogue or hamburger phones, and Nash and director Jon Poll do a commendable job of capturing the insecurities of high school without turning those insecure kids into loser caricatures (there is, however, a mentally-challenged kid who has no business in the film). And while it lacks much in the way of inventiveness and originality, teenage audiences who haven’t been schooled in Molly Ringwald’s oeuvre won’t know it, while older audiences will appreciate the throwback vibe. But what everyone can appreciate is how great Anton Yelchin is (he’s, like, the next Justin Long Matthew Broderick), as well as the presence of Robert Downey who, as always, is fucking brilliant in what I believe is his first father role. If Charlie Bartlett is any indication, when Downey decides to start selling out to family films, Steve Martin will have an appropriate successor.

What’s most refreshing about this film, however, is that while most teenage pics glorify status and center largely on the unpopular kid gaining his or her popularity via makeover, revenge, or fuck, Charlie Bartlett is less about becoming popular and more about what to do with that popularity once you achieve it.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives with his wife and son in Ithaca, New York. You may email him, or leave a comment below.


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Comments

Plus it has two of the Degrassi: TNG kids in it. Juno only had one.

Posted by: Lobstersurprise at February 21, 2008 12:57 PM

Great, now TK and I will have to undergo another round of "Who Loves Kat Dennings More?".

I'll get the sharp implements of death, and he will register the battle arena. This time, I hope he remembers the schedule AFTER the spinning class.

P.S. I love her more.

Posted by: Vermillion at February 21, 2008 1:02 PM

Hmm...not convinced. Though I like that Yelchin kid. And Downey. Dammit, might have to watch it. I'm not big on "teenager" films because I can't identify with any of their problems. I had a fairly unusual adolescence.

Posted by: joker at February 21, 2008 1:02 PM

Mah god I love me some Robert Downey Jr. Absolutely one of the most gifted actors around; his recent performance in Zodiac was stellar. He also seems to have made the same anti-aging deal-with-the-devil as Johnny Depp, which is amazing, especially given RD's past. The man is just . . . *sigh*

The movie sounds meh, and the trailers were especially underwhelming, so I think I'll skip it for now.

Posted by: llism at February 21, 2008 1:07 PM

I'll wait for on HBO

Posted by: wsapnin at February 21, 2008 1:09 PM

The only thing I got from Pump Up The Volume was a tingly feeling every time Christian Slater was on the screen - which was often. What? I was 12!

Posted by: Kolby at February 21, 2008 1:09 PM

I'll wait for IT on HBO.

dammit

Posted by: wsapnin at February 21, 2008 1:10 PM

Nash and director Jon Poll do a commendable job of capturing the insecurities of high school without turning those insecure kids into loser caricatures

Are you kidding? Every kid in the movie except Charlie was a total stereotype. The punk with the heart of gold, the creative videogame playing loser, the slutty cheerleader with the heart of gold--they were all the same old caricatures! There may not have been any hamburger phones but that doesn't necessarily make it more realistic.

Although I do agree that Yelchin and Downey were both fantastic.

Posted by: Lizzle at February 21, 2008 1:10 PM

is that Yelchin boy the sort of soft spoken, pale one?That can play creepy and intense but is actually really adorable?
*googles*

i love him!

and RBJ is guaranteed buttah so hell balls as yeah i'll be checkin this shizz out

llism, your words on the RBJ are just...so very true. especially the trail off...there is nothing to suitably express RBJ love other than...*sigh*
he's just So.Damn.Good.

Posted by: nadine at February 21, 2008 1:13 PM

I'm not a tweener, so is it good or bad that much of my ringtone relates directly to my identity, or, at least, a portion thereof.

It's "Heavy Action" aka the theme to "Monday Night Football". And whether I want it to or not, it says something.

Posted by: courtney at February 21, 2008 1:19 PM

"the creative videogame playing loser"

Posted by: Stella at February 21, 2008 1:20 PM

wow, that was supposed to come out with an arrow pointing at my name...

Posted by: Stella at February 21, 2008 1:21 PM

I *love* Robert Downey Jr. and glad to see his brown hair again. Boy I need to see Wonder Boys again.

Is it me or did trailers for this come out like 6+ months ago? I think I saw it before Once in June/July...

Posted by: Amanda47 at February 21, 2008 1:28 PM

nadine, did you see him when he was on Inside the Actors Studio? He looked so healthy, and so happy, and he was all charming and schmoopy about his wife, and not to sound like a complete dork, but it really made me feel good to think (hope) that he'll make it out of all that bullshit. I mean, not that I know him or anything, I just root for him, ya know?

Posted by: llism at February 21, 2008 1:29 PM

Lobstersurprise:

It actually had THREE Degrassi: TNG kids - Paige, Jimmy & Craig.

I really liked this movie, although the "kid who gets picked on and then becomes a punk who really just wanted to fit in all along" character was more than a bit contrived.

I'm also really excited about the Youth In Revolt movie, but a little weary about Michael Cera playing Nick Twisp. I LOVE Michael Cera, but Nick is a bit too edgy/rebellious for him.

Also, my ringtone is the default tone that came with the phone. I'm really lame.

Posted by: Stephanie at February 21, 2008 1:35 PM

Tweener rhymes with Weener, and that pretty much sums up my thoughts on that generation. Am I a dick for saying that? Perhaps. But I also have enough common sense to know that if you own a cell phone, the primary purpose (i.e. what you're paying for) is to make phone calls, not text the motherfucker sitting ten feet away from you.

Wandering aimelessly with a flock of "better-than-thou" Abercrombied Hot Topic dolts in the local food court whilst texting acronyms and misspelled grammarless sentences to another group of aimless twits... Good times...

Man, and I thought I was a loser in high school for getting stoned behind the 7-11 before my shift started at Pizza Hut.

As a sidenote: Hot Topic does NOT make you a punk. The punks of my youth would curb-stomp these pasty-faced mallrats while piercing their eyelids with rusty safety pins. Don't wear a Misfits or Skinny Puppy shirt unless you KNOW who the fuck the band is...

Godspeed, Charlie Bartlett, godspeed... (cue stupid tween anthem)

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at February 21, 2008 1:38 PM

Mmmmm...Robert Downey Jr. Goshdarnit, he can be the bacon to my eggs. I even sat through Gothika because of his presence. Sadly, not worth it...ten bucks and two hours that I'll never get back. The trailer for this looked not terribly shitty, and was filled with Robert-y goodness, so chances are good that another ten bucks and two hours are headed down the drain. Such is life.

Posted by: Leacock at February 21, 2008 1:44 PM

I just really like the whole "bathroom stall as confessional" image in the trailer. And Anton Yelchin in his adorable blazer. (What? I'm only flesh and blood!)

And I don't have a ringtone because I can't figure out how to get the one I bought to work. And the one I bought was "The Imperial March." Get geekier, I dare ya'.

Posted by: Smithy at February 21, 2008 1:46 PM

IIism, I'm totally youtube-ing that Actor's Studio video now.

Posted by: Leacock at February 21, 2008 1:52 PM

Skittimus - I'm onto you. You're sure to make the Box Office Round Up if you keep this up. Bastard.

Posted by: Kolby at February 21, 2008 1:56 PM

Um...*cough*Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego*cough*

Posted by: ScarletKnight at February 21, 2008 2:00 PM

C'mon, Skittmus, if you're going to bag on the tween lemmings, get your slams right. You can't be a Abercrombie and a Hot Topic faux punk. It's like mixing apples and shampoo.

I want to be a punk like Henry Rollins. I don't need a mohawk, or safety pins, or a Black Flag t-shirt. I just need to overwhelm you with angry free verse and then headbutt you into a pile of strawberry smoothie.

And when I was submitting scripts, I was given a copy of Charlie Bartlett and told that's the kind of film they were looking for.

Posted by: insertclevernamehere at February 21, 2008 2:04 PM

ScarletKnight, that is AMAZING. Seriously, I want to be there when your phone rings so I can soak up all the free-radical AMAZING that would generate.

Posted by: Smithy at February 21, 2008 2:05 PM

Um...*cough*Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego*cough*

Don't you dare *cough* that song like it is something to be ashamed of.

Posted by: Vermillion at February 21, 2008 2:08 PM

Isn't dealing drugs sort of, you know, wrong?

That said, Kat Dennings was the best thing about The 40-Year-Old Virgin, so I might check this out when it's on cable.

Posted by: Todd at February 21, 2008 2:22 PM

Smithy, I take your dare. I can't figure out how to make my ringtone work either, and it's the theme from "Doctor Who." Methinks you should consider yourself outgeeked.

Posted by: Sarah at February 21, 2008 2:32 PM

i met my best friend because her ringtone was "the final countdown" in reference to gob. we knew that it must be true friendship if we both have such good taste.

and not all tweeners are mindless automatons enslaved to their phones. many of them are, but not all.

(sarah: i love doctor who!)

Posted by: maggie at February 21, 2008 2:43 PM

I actually saw this movie in a pre-screening about a year ago, before Sidney Kimmel abruptly pulled all ad spending and pushed the movie back a year - does anyone know why they did that? I got the impression it was related to the content being somehow controversial in terms of current events but I couldn't figure it out. Anyway, I know that the studio lost a ton of money moving it back, so I'm curious if anyone knows what happened there.

Posted by: JPV at February 21, 2008 2:45 PM

I'm totally loving the use of "tweenager" and other tween-prefixed words in the comments section. It's so ridiculous and demeaning. TWEENS.

I want to see this, but the whole dealing drugs thing irritates me a little. Not for the illegality Todd already mentioned, but because I'm not really sure our whole prescription drug culture is really that great and hilarious. Although, I gather from the premise of the movie that it's pretty much a satire of just that. So I guess I'll just buy a ticket and see how it plays out.

Posted by: Gudrun at February 21, 2008 2:49 PM

Wow. Three Degrassi kids. Well that just beats Juno's one Degrassi kid hands down. With Jimmy, no less, the future Barack of the North (is that too offensive?). If only the OG Degrassi actors could get some non-Degrassi associated work.

Posted by: Lobstersurprise at February 21, 2008 2:55 PM

"Trouble is, a decent understanding of literature and a modicum of intelligence elicits a beat down in public school (nice to know nothing changes)..."

Did I go to high school in another dimension? There was no such bullying at my school. In fact some of the more popular kids were also highly intelligent. I can only actually remember two fights breaking out on school grounds during my four-year career, one involving a girl getting her ponytail weave ripped out and thrown across the cafeteria.

Now on the flip side, "decent understanding of literature and a modicum of intelligence" didn't do much to help a girl get a date, but that's a whole other topic all together.

The "Pump Up the Volume" (which I am so pulling off the shelf for a viewing this weekend) comparison appears forced. Maybe I'll have to see the film but right now I am not buying the connection between pirate radio DJ inspiring students to rebel and a teenage therapist doling out drugs in the little boys room. Talk Hard and Take Your Pill? Humph.

Robert Downey Jr. really redeemed himself to me with his ego-free performance in "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" and his throwaway quip at last year's Oscars.

And while my ringtone is simply a beep, my husband uses "The Imperial March" for my phone calls and a girlfriend of mine has "Toxic" blare every time I call her mobile. Now what does that say about me?

Posted by: Alabamapink at February 21, 2008 2:56 PM

llism, i havent bit i'll youtube it as soon as, thanks!
Im in the UK so we dont get inside the actors studio(a frikkin travesty) but i did see him right when The Singing Detective was released which i think was just as he'd like, officially gotten clean, he was on a talk show over here and was SO open and so self deprecating about his problems,he told a story about how he'd broken out of rehab and found himself trying to either buy or beg booze at like, three am, wearing a hawaiian shirt and bright yellow shorts.
He didnt lie about anything, try to hide anything or shy away from any subject.
I have a policy of no matter who, i have massive respect for anyone who can free themselves of their vices, especially when they've been in the grip of them for so long, and even more so for anyone who can make fun of them without making light of them. He can crack jokes about the stuff he got up to, make fun of himself and his 'silly' behaviour, but doesnt make you think he's dismissing his own problems and is at risk of back sliding.
Gotta love some one who can take that approach.

Posted by: nadine at February 21, 2008 2:56 PM

I still maintain that you haven't really lived until you're attempted to sing the Doctor Who theme from memory in a public place. At high volume. While totally inebriated.

booooo-doooooo-beeeee-ooooooo-dooooo, doooo-dooooo-dooooo! do-doo-dooo-doo-doo-do-dooo! beeee-ooooooop-wooooooo!

Posted by: Smithy at February 21, 2008 2:57 PM

I will see this purely out of devotion for Robert Downey Jr.

Ooh, and Kat Dennings has great boobage.

Posted by: Julie at February 21, 2008 2:59 PM

Smithy, have you ever had that situation where you start singing the booodoooo and some one nearby comes out of no where with the 'duh duh duh DUM duh duh duh DUM duh duh duh DUM...'

that can just about rock my socks that can.

Posted by: nadine at February 21, 2008 3:08 PM

"How many folks ran out and bought How To Talk Dirty and Influence People after watching Volume? And how many people used "Wienerschnitzel" as their answering machine message? Just me, then?)"

I started writing dreadful poetry in the vein of the "Eat me Beat Me Lady", discovered Leonard Cohen, the Pixies AND the Beastie Boys (I was sheltered) and decided it was okay to hate my school and everyone in it and move away as soon as humanly possible. It also gave me permission to loathe pseudo-authority figures I didn't respect. The fricking movie changed my life.

You want whale sperm with that? No!

Posted by: Farfalina at February 21, 2008 3:09 PM

**SLIGHT SPOILERS BELOW**

While Charlie is ultimately selling pills to become well-liked in school, it seems like he genuinely thinks he is helping the kids he sells the pills to. He comes up with the idea after a fellow student confesses that he is suicidal, and Charlie acquires the pills (Prozac? I forget) to try to help him. Also, he is presumably not making any money from this (or, at least, money isn't discussed other than Charlie bribing the punk kid for help - and Charlie is already rich so it is a non-issue).

Towards the middle of the movie Charlie realizes that he is actually doing more harm than good, and makes an announcement to the student body that he won't be selling drugs anymore. He spends the rest of the movie finding non-pharmaceutical ways of helping his fellow student.

Posted by: Stephanie at February 21, 2008 3:10 PM

Disclaimer: I am 32, and my ringtone is Miles Davis' Solar. And yes, it is extremely important to my identity.

Posted by: Farfalina at February 21, 2008 3:11 PM

VERMILLION!!!!!

[draws sword]

TO THE DEATH!

Posted by: TK at February 21, 2008 3:23 PM

Yay, bloodshed!

Posted by: Julie at February 21, 2008 3:28 PM

I got to see the first screening of this movie at my highschool last year, and I'm glad to see it got a positive review here. It's not thinking particularly out of the box, or doing something I haven't seen before, but it's a vast improvement over most of the teenage movies that show up in theatres, it's funny, and there are times when it manages to perfectly express the series of awkward, confusing experiences that is being a teenager.
Also, Robert Downey Jr. is freaking brilliant.

Posted by: Zuzu at February 21, 2008 3:31 PM

Go for the underbelly, TK!

Posted by: Smithy at February 21, 2008 3:33 PM

My ringtone is Fraggle Rock. I am not ashamed.

Posted by: Sarina at February 21, 2008 3:35 PM

SO BE IT!!!!!

[draws sword, with convenient rifle attachment]

Hey, I never said I would be fair.

Posted by: Vermillion at February 21, 2008 3:37 PM

I saw this movie a couple weeks ago as part of the NYU Director's Series (which is a highfalutin name for a bunch of fair-to-middling semi-indie movies that we get to see for free), and I have to say that the only reason I didn't hate it was that I didn't pay for it. Granted, Yelchin was terrific, and I'll watch anything with RDJ in it, but the movie was incredibly contrived and horribly unrealistic, which wouldn't be that big a deal if Jon Poll hadn't come up afterwards and stated repeatedly that he was trying to create a completely realistic high school environment. Also, the suicide scene and the scene with AY and RDJ and the drunken gun firing were both bullshit, as well as the scene where Yelchin punches RDJ; not to mention the fact that not a single one of the supporting high schoolers outside of RDJ's daughter was believable. I mean, the film wasn't THAT bad, but it wasn't good either.

Posted by: fringecamp at February 21, 2008 3:49 PM

I have a different ringtone for each person when they call me. Usually their fav song, or a song that I feel suits them. I.E. Mom = Sweet Home Alabama, Dad = Johnny Cash, and so forth. It works wonders, because I know who's calling. Makes it so much easier to ignore people, or makes me run to grab my phone quicker. Depends on my mood... And what type of energy i'm willing to exert.

Posted by: Jax at February 21, 2008 3:50 PM

Vermillion:

So. It's gonna be like that. Well. Allow me to deploy you my secret weapons:

1. [whips open jacket[]
WHISKEYBABYNINJASTAR!

2. [opens door behind, letting in zombie hordes]

Verrr... milllll... ionnnnnn!!!

BRAINSSSSSS!!!!

*guhhhhhhhhh....*

Posted by: TK at February 21, 2008 3:57 PM

Also, my ringtone is the "Theme from 007". Yes, I am a shameless dork.

When my wife calls it's "Portions for Foxes" by Rilo Kiley, which I think is pretty cool. So there.

Posted by: TK at February 21, 2008 4:10 PM

Can someone please direct me to the posting/comment thread wherein WHISKEYBABYNINJASTAR made its debut?

Although I have seen the fantastic graphic and have already pledged to put the bumper sticker on my car's pristine bumper, I still need to know the original source.

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: tamatha at February 21, 2008 4:12 PM

Awww, poor Vermillion.

Don't panic, V! Remember, your sword has a convenient rifle attachment! Shoot them in the head!

Posted by: Sarina at February 21, 2008 4:14 PM

Tamatha, I believe it was in one of the weekly box office roundups, one from late January with a Meet the Spartans picture. That discussion started the Whiskeybabyninjastar! and the Murder Spree :)

Posted by: Julie at February 21, 2008 4:17 PM

"That discussion started the Whiskeybabyninjastar! and the Murder Spree."

Where else are you gonna read things like this? Nowhere. That's why I likes the joint.

Vermillion and TK, I'm armed with a shitload of ninja poof-bombs and a barbed-wire bat. First one here's got dibs on 'em. I've also got a half-eaten Manwich from yesterday...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at February 21, 2008 4:27 PM

I just looked it up Tamatha, it's a weekly box office roundup entitled "I Am Shitty!" :)

Re-reading that thread was quite a trippy experience.

Posted by: Julie at February 21, 2008 4:28 PM

Speaking of the Pajiba Bus(ted) Tour (2008!), when is the bus leaving. I'm still in the mood for a little bit of bludgeoning.

Posted by: Kolby at February 21, 2008 4:29 PM

Oh, and my ringtone is 'Orange and Blue' - also known as the GATOR FIGHT SONG!

[takes seat next to TK on the dork train]

Posted by: Kolby at February 21, 2008 4:30 PM

Me too Kolby, I am all about mixing brutal beatings and beer.

*my ringtone is Modest Mouse's "Ocean Breathes Salty", but my phone sucks goat ass so it sounds like a Whiskeybabyninjastar! is playing it on an out of tune kiddie piano.

Posted by: Julie at February 21, 2008 4:35 PM

*shoots one zombie, decapitates another*

You son of a bitch! This will not stand!

Besides, you are married already! How does your wife feel about you devoting this much attention to another woman, huh? One you never even met, by gum!

*goes for the ninja poof bombs*

And don't think I won't remember those who rooted against me, Smithy!!!!!

My ringtone, if I could get it to work: One Winged Angel. Look it up.

Posted by: Vermillion at February 21, 2008 4:42 PM

Julie
Thanks! I'm in the process of reading through the thread.

If it weren't so late in the work day and my eyes going cross from starin' at the computer, I'm sure I'd be making swifter progress...

Posted by: tamatha at February 21, 2008 4:44 PM

TK - my ringtone is "portions for foxes" too - because pretty much every time I get a phone call, it's bad news (baby, it's bad news bad news bad newwwwws)

Posted by: Bambina at February 21, 2008 4:54 PM

Sorry Vermillion, it's a matter of principle now.

And once I unleash Zombie 'Bama... you are rightly and truly screwed.

Not to mention the indestructible Whiskeybabyninjastar!

I'm sorry, son, but you brought this on yourself.

ZOMBIE MINIONS! DINNER! IS! SERVED!

Posted by: TK at February 21, 2008 4:55 PM

This looked cute. I'll go for any indie movie nowadays, and this one might just fit the bill.

Posted by: Kamakaze Feminist at February 21, 2008 5:01 PM

My ringtone is the opening theme from Firefly. I couldn't find any place selling it, so I created it myself by converting the MP3 of the theme to the format my phone uses. I also created my phone's wallpaper, the logo for Serenity. I'm a hardcore geek, and proud of it!

Posted by: CptCrckpot at February 21, 2008 5:39 PM

Incidentally, I read this review while listening to "Wave of Mutilation (U.K. Surf)"

Just felt like mentioning...

Posted by: Kizzer at February 21, 2008 5:59 PM

The cough is not hiding my shame, for as my grandmother tells me often "No tienes vergüenza." And it's true. And thank you Smithy, that song automatically improves all saving throws by +2. But then to have the House of Vermillion pull out One-Winged Angel...I bow to you sir and offer my nodachi in service. I won't be able to stop Whiskeybabyninjastar! but I will buy you the time to escape. Just don't forget to hit me with a Phoenix Down afterwards!!

Posted by: ScarletKnight at February 21, 2008 6:16 PM

I appreciate the help, ScarletKnight. These undead bastards can't stand against us!

[ATB mater is filled]

I summon the power of AbeVigoda!!!

HP: ????/????
MP: ????/????
Age: ????

Posted by: Vermillion at February 21, 2008 6:39 PM

Oh, and almost forgot:

LIMIT BREAK!!!!!!

Posted by: Vermillion at February 21, 2008 6:41 PM

So, on with my tangent.

I just finished reading the comment thread for I.Am.Shitty and that is definitely one of the most hilarious threads I have read on this site, which is sayin' something.

I'm sorry I missed it in the first place.

My only question is, PissBoy, where can I get my Pajiba 2008 Killing Spree t-shirt? Just tell me where to send my check (I swear I'm good for it) and I will be one happy lady. Does it come with the WHISKEYBABYNINJASTAR graphic too?

Posted by: tamatha at February 21, 2008 6:56 PM

Oh. Muh. Gaw. Limit Break...

Sweet staggering moses, if I could put time in a bottle... Man, I lost a significant (put that in all caps, bright red with a flame graphic behind it and a rockin' tune) amount of time playing FF8. I actually called in sick to work a couple times to play that bitch. My PSOne would see me comin' and I could almost hear it beg for an hour's rest. Good times....

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at February 21, 2008 6:58 PM

Hey, where is that WBNS graphic anyway? I thought it was on the Pajiba (Bus)Ted Tour 2008 round up, but I don't see it...

Posted by: tamatha at February 21, 2008 7:08 PM

but...

but...

*whispers*

has someone told Vermillion that TK's a ghost?

How can he possilby defeat the unearthly?

Anybody out there care to make it interesting?

Posted by: general rhubarb at February 21, 2008 7:29 PM

Oh man, I was all excited because I just got a new ring, Weezer's Say it Ain't So. I'm not a tween, but never ever underestimate the awesomeness that is text messaging. It's a blessing to those who dislike phoning people.

Posted by: IamKateness at February 21, 2008 8:25 PM

did anyone else think it could have been PG13 if it tried? i was expecting it to ("doesn't it matter to you whether your daughter has a relationship with her mother you FUC---"), i guess, so i was a bit put off by all the "fuck" etc. not that i'm against the word, but you have a slightly immature teenage movie with a full-fledged moral and you make it inaccessible to those on a short leash?

Posted by: meretyping at February 21, 2008 8:28 PM

Haha, Degrassi kicks ass, and it looks like this movie will too :)

Posted by: Jen at February 21, 2008 8:38 PM

Pump Up the Volume is one of my all-time favorite movies. I was optimistic about this movie after seeing the trailer, but now I'm downright excited.

Posted by: bartap at February 21, 2008 8:50 PM

You had me at three kids from Degrassi: TNG. But then you REALLY had me at Craig Manning from Degrassi: TNG. Also, I love Robert Downey Jr. in anything. I might have to go see this after all.

Posted by: burpany at February 21, 2008 9:20 PM

Wait, there are 3 Degrassi kids in this one? Damnit, I thought pie-faced Paige was it.

Still, I have always had love for Robert Downey Jr. Although I didn't have the stomach to watch Fur or The Singing Detective, but I think only about 10 people saw those, anyway.

Posted by: Brie at February 21, 2008 9:51 PM

[shuffles in, albeit tardy]

Where's my boy, Vermillion? I need some yummies in my tummy.

[smacks lips]

And I scoff at your silly gamer references.

Guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh! BRAAAAIIIINSSSSSSSSSS!

Posted by: Zombie 'Bama at February 21, 2008 10:14 PM

What adults need to realize is that Juno's supposed "quirky dialogue" - glorified everywhere else and mocked here - is exactly, to a T, frightengingly accurately today's teenager-speak. (I cannot believe I just said "today's teenager-speak".) It's not trying to impress you. It sounds like a pile of high-school kids wrote the screenplay. In fact, and I don't mean to brag/self-depricate, Juno and I talk almost exactly the same way.

Therefore, the authenticity of Charlie Bartlett that supposedly had Juno beat has been descredited by moi.

Posted by: Ling at February 21, 2008 10:34 PM

SKINNY PUPPY! Thanks for the memories, Skittimus. I listened to that album (yes, you read correctly, album) over and over again during my days of angst. And did I mention I saw them LIVE at a divey teen club somewheres in New Westminster? And didn't you hate them for turning into "Images in Vogue" but secretly hummed "...don't mistake my lust for love" every chance you got? Sigh. Where are the Molly Ringwalds of today?

But back to "silly gamer references".

Posted by: kootenay girl at February 21, 2008 10:37 PM

I HAD DAYS OF ANGST TOO!! OH...Oh... OH GAWD I HAD THEM TOO!!! Bwah-ah-ha-ah-haaaa-haaaaa!

Yeah, Peter Murphy, Circle Jerks, DK, Dead Milkmen, Soiuxie Souix & the Bansheemophones (yeah, my spelling it shitty - what of it?). Manomanoman, those bring back good times, good music - back when you HAD to know the song title as opposed to the track number.

Live huh? Oh I wish I had a Flux Capasitomater...

Molly turned 40. Keep it strong bitch!!!

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at February 21, 2008 11:34 PM

Has this turned into a ringtone comment diversion?

Here I go:

"The Side Crawler's Dance" from Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap.

Posted by: Adere at February 22, 2008 2:06 AM

Ling - I've been saying the same thing ever since the Juno-backlash started. My friends and I talk exactly the same way as the kids in the film did. Of course, we're in our early twenties, but it still stands. Every piece of dialogue, with the exception of Rainn Wilson, was completely accurate.

Back on topic: This movie looked pretty charming and I, like apparently everyone else on Pajiba, have a ridiculous soft spot for RDJ, so I'm totally there.

You did lose me for a second at Taylor Kitch's pecs, though. I drifted off into thoughts of...ahem, never mind.

And for the record, my ringtone is the opening riff of 'The Final Countdown', because it makes me giggle.

Posted by: Mimi at February 22, 2008 2:28 AM

I'm not a tweener, but my ringtone says a lot about me. It's a cut of 'Spiders' by System of a Down (does anyone here even know who they are; I mean, the music diversions always make me feel like a total loner in my music tastes).

Posted by: Cuno at February 22, 2008 12:38 PM

My cock is much bigger than yours,

My cock can walk right through the door

With a feeling so pure...

It's got you screaming back for more.


Yeah, I know who they are...is that bad?

Posted by: ScarletKnight at February 22, 2008 2:00 PM

kootenay girl & skittimus >> my word! Skinny Puppy is some kind of theme in my life! Glorioski - I lived in their abandoned apartment, I worked in the office they used as a studio (and if I could unleash whatever they had hidden in the giant metal closet safe that no-one, including the police, could figure out how to open short of a bomb - I bet it would be the defining weapon on TK and Vermillion's ongoing battle ... to the pain!). In short, they pervade my life...I looooove lust for love. If my cell phone had any features whatsoever I'd probably choose that one.

Also - I didn't mention it, but I do have a line-art-only version of the whiskeybabyninjastar! if anyone would like to go forth with the sticker. I truly lust for acceptance, don't I? For the record - I'm gonna grant Dustin and Dan joint copyright ownership of the thing, 'cause I KNOW we need the secret symbols...I'll take requests too...I gotta itchy wacom pen trigga finga!

Posted by: Rebeccah at February 22, 2008 3:24 PM

Maybe we should have a ringtone comment diversion one of these days...

Mine is the "Fruity Oaty Bar" song from Serenity.

Posted by: Nika at February 23, 2008 4:20 PM

Ringtone: Pink Floyd "Wish you were here".

Nika... I love that tune because every time I get to it (yea I've watched Serenity multiple times, like you haven't!), I know my favourite part is coming! River-Ass-Kicking! Good times.

Posted by: joker at February 23, 2008 4:42 PM

Ringtones!!

My younger sister has the "Darth Vader Theme" as her ringtone, but only when I call her. She is an evil genius.

My own ringtones are an absolute study in bad taste, including "Crank That Soulja Boy," and "Larger Than Life" by the Backstreet Boys.

*shrugs* What can I say? I like those songs.

Posted by: KatyBelle at February 23, 2008 11:52 PM

ps. I also have a "Scotland The Brave" ringtone too, set for when my mum calls me. She's from Edinburgh.

Posted by: KatyBelle at February 23, 2008 11:54 PM

Dustin,

either:

"Query, tweeners:"

or,

"Answer me this, tweeners:"

You can't just mash them together.

By the way, I doubt authentic tweens would venture to the land of Pajiba.

Posted by: Brighton at February 24, 2008 11:10 AM

Unnecessary use of special needs student aside (though the shortbus gag was good the first time), I kind of really liked the film.

My only problem was how mediocre the girl's singing was. When you try to use a father missing his girl's beautiful singing voice as a sign of a strained relationship, shouldn't the girl have at least a passable singing voice? Not rejected at the open call delusional Idol contestant voice?

Posted by: Robert at February 24, 2008 11:20 AM

Just how much of your identity iswrapped up in your ringtone these days?)
I have always felt it reveals abit too much, which is why I use the standars setting (or vibrate). It did however lead to an interesting converstaion with my manager - picture a successful, petite, mid-forties asian woman with approximately 60 people reporting to her and a yearly budget in the ballpark of $30 million with a ring tone of "Hips Don't Lie." I walked past her office as her cell went off with that delightful song, requiring me to walk in ask for an explanation. She sheepishly explained her daughter was playing with her phone (don't I secretly doubt her).

Posted by: Brian at February 24, 2008 7:31 PM

I love Michael Cera as well but Youth in Revolt is one of my top three books of all time, and it's sooo hard to imagine him in that role. It really seems like that should be a role for a newcomer.

Posted by: sara at February 28, 2008 10:56 AM

Skittimus

True, I'm often scoffing and headshaking at the texting, tabloidy youth of today. "They're so
glimmery and false! Their music tastes are so lacking! They misspell, missquote, misslive! Why in MY day I..."

And I think that's what it goes back to, "In MY day." I'd like to think in my day I did it so much better. I think near everyone thinks they did it better in their day. We were smarter, snarkier, more disenfranchised, more in the know.

Or maybe we are just jealous. Or nostalgic.

Because if I really look back at my day, the majority of my peers were pretty lame at times. Including me. And we thought ourselves the cool exceptions to our mangy pack of teens. Sure if you traipse through the mall, or hang out at the latest fad band concert, you're going to see some pretty silly kids. It's like shooting ducks in a barrel. Or fish. Whatever.

What I'm trying to say is that it seems like as a once-hip generation fades into adulthood, the only thing we can do to make ourselves feel better is to point our fingers at those that are up-and-coming. I'm sure we know these kids as well and as deeply as the adults around us knew us then. Pshaw.

Also, I find the Skinny Puppy refrence hilarious. Seeing as the kids I knew who were really into industrial music were the pastiest, computergeekiest, most ascocial untoughs ever (I include myself in this grouping, replacing "computergeekiest" with just "geekiest").

*And so, teenage Mandy Tori sits lame and alone in her room reading Notes from Underground and listening to Throbbing Gristle, but comforts herself with the thought that although she is lame and alone she is cooler than her Tommy Hilfiger'd peers because she is reading Notes from Underground and listening to Throbbing Gristle.*

Posted by: mandy tori at March 2, 2008 4:30 PM