free counter with statistics Captivity | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People

captivity3.jpg
I Am Pissed the Fuck Off

Captivity / Dustin Rowles

Film Reviews | July 13, 2007 | Comments (399)


I don’t know how else to put this. There’s not a tactful way of saying it — no fancy critic-speak or appropriate metaphors to use here. So, I’ll just put it in the bluntest way possible: I fucking hated Captivity. I loathed it. I want to collect every print in America and burn them all. And I want to throw the filmmakers into the bonfire. I want to emasculate the director, Roland Joffe, and the screenwriters, Larry Cohen and Joseph Tura, in the worst way imaginable. I want to remove their testicles and feed them to wild animals while they look on in horror. I want to remove the three of them from the human race, along with the 12 producers, and the marketing team behind Captivity — I want to inflict upon them all some misguided vigilante justice. Some fantastical, Tarantino brand of vengeance. And though I know by wishing it upon them, I’m stooping to their level, I still desperately want them all to feel the pain of centuries of misogyny and female degradation in one prolonged, indescribably agonizing form of torment.

But, more than anything, I don’t want anyone to see this film — I want it to fail spectacularly. I want the filmgoers of this nation to prove that we’re above this sort of contempt and hate of the female sex. That we’re not actually a nation of sick, twisted frat-boy fuckers who’d get off on this sort of depravity. That there is a line, and that we, collectively, recognize that it’s been crossed, and we won’t subsidize it anymore. That we can reluctantly accept the insulting comedies, the drab thrillers, and the tiresome, lifeless romantic comedies, but that this sort of noxious cinematic poison is not only deplorable, but morally criminal.

Granted, there is an ad for this very movie on our site. One that I mistakenly accepted before seeing the film (and trust me, that odious version of the ad was not the version submitted to me), and one that I can do nothing to get rid of, short of removing the adstrip and pissing off the other advertisers (which I’ve considered) or shutting down the site all together. But then I couldn’t express my utter contempt for Captivity. I couldn’t encourage you all to refuse to give your business to it. To throw metaphorical rocks at its presence. To surreptitiously rip down its movie posters. And to offer the most effective means of protest: Your refusal to see it.

And yes, sure — we have expressed our distaste for torture porn on several occasions on these pages. But Captivity is a new low for what’s already the lowest form of cinematic entertainment. It is the nadir of the subgenre’s short existence. It is everything (everything) that is despicable and vile and offensive about torture porn distilled into 90 minutes of loathsome opprobrium. It’s repellent. Horrid. And thoroughly unpleasant. And I wouldn’t wish the experience of watching it upon anybody. Captivity is a cinematic cesspool where only sick fucking degenerates can get their rocks off, and it’s about as useful as second-hand toilet paper — only, it stinks a whole helluva lot more.

Joffe, who I hope to God doesn’t have a mother alive to see this, sets the mood immediately: Cold and dispassionate. Then he presents the captive, Jennifer (Elisha Cuthbert), a model with no trace of a back story. She’s just a girl. Blonde. Pretty. Has a toy poodle. Likes apple martinis. Has four limbs and a pair of breasts. Joffe doesn’t want to humanize her in any way — she’s just a piece of torture-porn meat. An outlet — an empty receptacle — with which he can show off his depravity. And it’s unfuckingbelievable garbage.

At a bar, Jennifer’s drink is spiked. A few minutes later, she wakes up in the torturer’s dungeon, which the captor has decorated with things from her apartment. Immediately, the cruel fucking bullshit begins. Jennifer is given the Clockwork Orange treatment — she’s strapped into a chair and made to watch the torture of a previous victim, a woman showered with acid. Acid, people. Acid. Fucking sick deplorable shit. The whole movie makes Saw look like motherfucking My Fair Lady with an industrial metal soundtrack.

When Jennifer rebels — when she tries to escape — she’s put in her place by the “man,” like all women should be, I suppose. She’s drugged. Chased with a bone saw in a heating duct. Drugged again. Buried in sand. Drugged again. Made to choose between blowing a hole in her dog with a shotgun or getting shot in the face with it (she chooses the former, and the dog’s guts explode in her face). And, worst of all, she’s made to ingest a smoothie of blended human parts through a funnel. Just for kicks. Sick motherfucking kicks. And, of course, through it all, there are more damsel-in-despair cries than a goddamn Olive Oyl costume party.

In fact, Captivity is basically a 90-minute desensitizing seminar — there are so many torture scenes that, eventually, it becomes tedious, banal. The torture no longer registers as torture, just some sick fuck’s idea of recreation. I mean, after you watch a girl drink human organs, how much more shocking can it feel to watch a small boy stab his mother to death or witness the torturer pull a man’s teeth out with pliers?

*Spoilers here on out, for the douchebag degenerates that actually want to see this bullshit.*

As for the plot, there is none. And I don’t say that in a hyperbolic way, in a way meant to imply that the narrative is weak or there’s no logic in the way it unspools. I mean, literally, there is no plot: An unknown man kidnaps a girl. He tortures her. He tortures her dungeon-mate. He tortures her some more. Then the two captives, inexplicably, fuck each other.

But, of course, just because there’s no plot doesn’t mean that the ending can’t be not only unfathomably ridiculous, but excruciatingly offensive. Because, you see, worse than the torture — the interminable, never-ending, relentless torture — is the punch line to this terrible fucking joke. Jennifer’s male co-captive is actually the captor. The whole goddamn series of torturous events was staged — one sick, motherfucking nauseatingly twisted form of date rape. He killed her dog, he made her eat human organs, and he made her endure days of physical and psychological torture so that he could wear her down and have consensual sex with her while his brother and co-conspirator watched. Why? Why? Why? Why? Why would a guy who has no reservations about showering a woman with acid insist that the sex be consensual? What is the goddamn message here? That roofies just won’t cut it anymore?

Unfuckingbelievable.

And I’m sure the filmmakers will argue that Captivity has some sort of feminist empowerment message behind it because Jennifer, the captive, eventually figures it all out and kills her kidnapper, walking away “triumphantly” as the credits roll. But, that’s total fucking bullshit, because for 89 of the 90-minute run time, Joffe and his cinematic henchmen try to pass off torture and date rape as a form of entertainment — they somehow expect people will want to pay to see a woman suffer for 89 minutes and then hope the audience feels vindicated because she mercilessly puts two in her captor’s chest before the screen goes black. Well, fuck that. And fuck you, Joffe, et al. for thinking we’re that easily manipulated.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives with his wife in Ithaca, New York. You may email him, or leave a comment below.


Jacob's Pajiba | Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix



Comments

wow. that was an intense read.

Posted by: jamie at July 11, 2007 2:23 PM

And this my friends is why I will NEVER understand the hype about Elisha Cuthbert, and even if I could get it, I'll NEVER forgive her for this piece of crap.

Posted by: Be Adequite! at July 11, 2007 2:23 PM

Oh my God. I never had any desire to see this movie, but I just want to say that this is hands-down one of the best reviews I've seen here so far. Brilliant, enraged, *scathing*. Reviews like this are why I fucking love this site.

Thank you for articulating everything that's wrong with the whole stupid torture-porn genre. That shit needs to die, like, yesterday.

Posted by: Kathleen at July 11, 2007 2:24 PM

Wow. No way would I go see this, rent this, and fyi I HATE the trailer on here, have been hating it since it's been up. I actually was covering it with my hand at one point to read some other review.

ick.

Posted by: anne at July 11, 2007 2:27 PM

Thank you Dustin, and all of Pajiba, for not tolerating this misogynistic torture porn that serves no other purpose than to demean and defile womankind. It pisses me off to no extent that these kinds of movies are made, and I hope that your review persuades the public to stay away from this genre, and especially, this stupid fucking movie.

Posted by: Kelly at July 11, 2007 2:29 PM

thank you

Posted by: jvo at July 11, 2007 2:34 PM

Ugg. This sounds like an updated version of I Spit on Your Grave sans the 45 minutes of gang rape, a film I rented because the mailroom guy at my work recommended it as one of his favorite movies, a man whom I never looked at the same again.

Posted by: Julie at July 11, 2007 2:34 PM

Holy fuck. Forget all that "scathing and bitchy" bullshit. When you hate a movie, you hate a motherfucking movie.

And this sounds like one worthy of your hate.

Good God, what possible reason is there to make this? I mean, even some of the worst movies out there have some semblence of a purpose. Scary Movie, while terrible, at least makes someone laugh (just not me). Even that shitpile Hostel could make the claim that it's about human excess and consumerism and some other bullshit. But seriously - what is the point of something like this?

Nothing. There is no point.

Ugh.

Posted by: TK at July 11, 2007 2:35 PM

Dustin, my dear, I crown you (with all the authority of a flimsy burger king paper topper) the King. Doesn't matter what you are king of. Just the King.

And the only other thing I have left to say is:

GUERILLA STICKER CAMPAIGN, PEOPLE!!!

Posted by: nexus 6 at July 11, 2007 2:35 PM

Oh yes, and that was a fucking fantastic review.

Posted by: Julie at July 11, 2007 2:36 PM

Yeah, I was actually going to add a thank you, for a) falling on the grenade for us and
b) writing about it

BUT - frankly, there was no way in hell I was ever going to see this anyway. So I guess what I really feel I should say is:

I'm sorry. I'm sorry you had to see this pile o' crap. I wish we could at least say you got paid, but I know you didn't.

Posted by: TK at July 11, 2007 2:38 PM

Wow, I think I just got a contact high from your seething fury. That review was so overflowing with venom that I almost want to watch the movie to see if it's really that bad.

But I won't.

Posted by: MG at July 11, 2007 2:39 PM

Oh, Dustin. The exquisite fury of this review reminds me of why I come to Pajiba in the first place.

Personally, I wasn't gonna see this movie anyway, but these methods of torture are just too extreme. The consuming of human organs in smoothie form is just too much.
Especially considering the fact that I am drinking a smoothie as we speak. Sigh.

Posted by: Brie at July 11, 2007 2:40 PM

What everybody else said. Thank you, Dustin, for taking a stand. I hope *every* critic does.

Posted by: Cris at July 11, 2007 2:40 PM

And don't forget degenerate asshole After Dark CEO Courtney Solomon who has been responsible for the disgusting ad campaigns which went up all over the place, INCLUDING IN SIGHT OF SCHOOLS, featuring Cuthbert in the "stages" of capitivity starting with her being kidnapped and ending with her laying dead on some table with the focus on her chest.

Solomon's response to the outrage over the ads? To BULLSHIT that he would have them taken down, then drag his feet on it, and then start talking about the release party was "probably not legal" because it featured a variety of tortur-iffic activities for whatever sick fucks would go to it.

There is not enough bad shit in the WORLD that could happen to these people as far as I'm concerned, and Elisha Cuthbert should be fucking ashamed for being involved with this - ANY woman involved with it in any way should be.

Posted by: Josie at July 11, 2007 2:43 PM

I'm old (38), so I never got this whole "torture-porn" genre in the first place. More importantly, I don't know how things like this are "r" rated and get sent out to a mainstream audience.

I spent four years in the army as an infantry soldier and saw first hand what type of violence people can do to one another. If people want to see graphic inhumanity, go to Africa or the Middle-east; you won't get titilated by the suffering, trust me. While I am older than most of the readers on this site, it's nice to know that at Dustin and I think alike on this issue.

Posted by: Bruised&Spongey at July 11, 2007 2:43 PM

So, that's one thumb up, right?

Posted by: kehrsam at July 11, 2007 2:44 PM

I'm glad you spilled the end and confirmed what I'd figured out after having to suffer through the trailer before 1408. Anyone with half a brain cell could have figured out that "twist", which proves to me that you're vitriol is dead on, and that these people just wanted to violently torture and abuse a woman on screen for an hour and a half, then just tacked on the ending to try to justify their sick depravity.

Sorry for the serious run-on, but just thinking about this crap long enough to read the review made me feel sick - that "I threw up in my mouth a little" expression just became literal for me. I had to try to spew at least some of it out as quickly as possible.

Posted by: pinkcheese at July 11, 2007 2:44 PM

I couldn't wait to read your review, Dustin--especially knowing you would probably pan it--and holy shit, you did not disappoint. Amazing. I am basking in the anger. Except instead of tanning me it makes me even pastier than I already am. Oh well. It's quite worth it.

Grammar Nazi Note: Change "deprivation" to "depravity." Just because the review is so fucking brilliant and I can't stand to see it marred by that small malapropism.

Posted by: Amelia at July 11, 2007 2:44 PM

I actually feel a little bit nauseated after reading that review. God.

Is there any way to send this review around the studios? They need to read it.

Thanks, Dustin.

Blugh.

Posted by: alec! at July 11, 2007 2:47 PM

I have a friend whose brother was talking about this film the other day, about how much he wanted to see it. I asked him, "Why?"

He replied, "Dude, it's a hot chick getting tortured."

I'm still waiting for an explanation instead of a disturbing revelation about his psyche.

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at July 11, 2007 2:48 PM

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, for standing up against this disgusting and perverse waste of celluloid. No one needs to see it, and it's about time someone took a moral stand.

Posted by: labosseuse at July 11, 2007 2:48 PM

Wow. Fantastic review.

It makes me feel physically ill that people go to see these movies, but what makes it worse is that women will lower themselves to be a part of the circle jerk.

Can we get back to honest-to-god horror movies now, Hollywood? Thanks.

Posted by: Mara at July 11, 2007 2:50 PM

I'm also interested to hear that you approved an ad different from the one that went up...apparently that's the same bait-and-switch that After Dark pulled in regards to the billboards. Seems that someone took the ad proofs over personally to be approved by the MPAA folks, which were approved...but the ads approved weren't the ones that wound up on billboards. Douchebag Extraordinaire Solomon claims the "wrong image went to the printers."

Oh, I am SO sure.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i898ca0de1754206a72612f6e991544a2

Posted by: Josie at July 11, 2007 2:51 PM

This one will be a rental.

Posted by: Bukowski at July 11, 2007 2:54 PM

Look, I can appreciate that this movie sucked, but I could have done without all the pseudo-feminist hand wringing that accompanied this review.

Posted by: mutterhals at July 11, 2007 2:57 PM

I also saw the preview before 1408 (which we went to see based on Pajiba's positive review) and the only thought I had was "that guy is the one doing all this to her; what a stoopid idea for a movie."

Posted by: scoxsmith at July 11, 2007 2:59 PM

I've got a C-note that says some jackhole corporaet film "critic" calls this a "tour de force".

Posted by: Manny at July 11, 2007 3:00 PM

You made my heart race a bit there Dustin. I haven't read such loathing in quite some time. I bow to you for torturing yourself for the good of us Pajibanians who will never ever see this movie.

Posted by: Stella at July 11, 2007 3:00 PM

Look, I can appreciate that this movie sucked, but I could have done without all the pseudo-feminist hand wringing that accompanied this review.

Then go somewhere else.

Posted by: TK at July 11, 2007 3:02 PM

I don't understand how anyone could watch this (wanting to, not just reviewing) and not come out feeling like slime.

Posted by: Stacy at July 11, 2007 3:02 PM

happyplacehappyplacehappyplace FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHERES THE HARRYPOTTERREVIEW?happyplacehappyplacehappyplace......

Posted by: vaguelyamish at July 11, 2007 3:06 PM

Thanks Dustin - I hope that other film reviewers will echo your sentiments and turn the masses away from shit like this (though somehow I fear it won't happen).

Posted by: b at July 11, 2007 3:10 PM

Thank you Dustin...great review! No,I was never ever, ever going to see this movie, or Saw or Hostel or any torture porn but it makes me feel a little better that someone in the 'industry' is speaking out against this despicable trash. It makes me wonder with the Republican Right able to make headlines with their opinions on abortion, gay marriage, and their agenda of 'family values' that Fox or CNN or any of the other mouthpieces hasn't done something to prevent this shit being made.

Posted by: Brite at July 11, 2007 3:12 PM

Oh Dustin. Thank you so, so, so, so much. As you know, several of us have been complaining about this ad from jump, and I'm so relieved to hear this wasn't OK'd by y'all. I had actually almost stopped coming to this site because of it. Several of my favorite sites, actually. It's everywhere, I can't escape it. (Ah, irony.)
Anyway, this review quite literally gave me chills. I'm not sure how long you're contractually obligated to keep up that fucking ad, but if you do take down the sidebar, I swear to dog that I will visit the other advertisers' websites and even buy something from them, just to give Joffe and Solomon a big Fuck You.
Again, Dustin, thank you. And I'm truly sorry you had to see this.

Posted by: isabelle at July 11, 2007 3:13 PM

"It had me on the edge of my seat!" --Earl Dittman, Wireless Magazines

Posted by: ali at July 11, 2007 3:13 PM

Thank you for watching this so that I will never ever EVER have to watch it. You seriously took one for the Pajiba team, and I am eternally grateful.

Posted by: B.F.D. at July 11, 2007 3:15 PM

I wish somebody would explain to me the difference between pseduo feminist hand wringing and real feminist hand wringing, cuz by golly, I sure don't wanna have to turn in my fem-cred card.

I do wonder if the vitriol would have been the same had the said victim been a guy, but you know, I don't think that would have been made into a movie... unless it were a young boy, because real men don't get victimized, do they? No, they blow shit up a la Ahnold, Brucy and Dolph.

Posted by: Stella at July 11, 2007 3:22 PM

Dustin, just, wow. Whenever I see previews for these kinds of films, I think to myself "Who on earth has the time and equipment to maintain a torture chamber?" Then I ask myself who would want to watch it.

The "hot chick getting tortured" comment is, indeed, disturbing. Perhaps a way for former film nerds to get revenge on the young ladies who spurned them in high school?

Posted by: Samantha T at July 11, 2007 3:23 PM

(not that I ever would anyway, but)
I WILL NOT SEE THIS MOVIE AND I WILL ENCOURAGE EVERYONE I KNOW TO DO THE SAME.

Enough is enough. Fuck this shit.
I'm spending my $10 on Rescue Dawn.

Posted by: go big red at July 11, 2007 3:25 PM

damn dude.

Posted by: Steen at July 11, 2007 3:27 PM

The one thing I do appreciate about this site, aside from the usually brilliant writing, is that you never sugarcoat things. So while the movie probably did suck, I applaud the fact that as a critic you have the gusto to articulate that without trying to find some sort of positive spin for it. I always find that there are laughably bad movies (Alone in the Dark, anyone?), but very few movies that should never have existed in the first place (for me, Willard was one of those). So, good on you for being mad as hell and not taking it anymore.

And don't blame Cuthbert - she has to pay the bills, too. Although really, it sounds like doing porn would have been less of an ego-buster than doing this film.

Posted by: Ben at July 11, 2007 3:29 PM

So Dustin, not a third-date movie?

Posted by: Brian at July 11, 2007 3:29 PM

Oh, and Dustin- Thank you for putting yourself through this so you could honestly convey how much this movie hurts all of us just by existing. By being one (of the very few, I hope) to see it, your words are more valuable in the protest against it.
Of course, any protest against this movie will probably only encourage curiosity ticket sales to idiots who want to see "what all the fuss is about." Assholes.

Posted by: go big red at July 11, 2007 3:34 PM

There are just...there are no words. What is this world coming to?

Posted by: bonnie at July 11, 2007 3:34 PM

I kind of have a body high right now. You made my week.

Posted by: Rachel T at July 11, 2007 3:36 PM

Man, that was some awesome fury there. I loves me a good rant. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Fabulous review. I'll be saving my money, and I'll encourage everyone I know to do the same.

Posted by: Rhonda at July 11, 2007 3:38 PM

"Then go somewhere else."

I heart you, TK.

Posted by: Stella at July 11, 2007 3:40 PM

TK-- yes. Reading all these comments, I just feel so damn relieved there are this many people who are so pissed about this shit! Thank dog we're not all dead inside just yet. I love you guys, seriously.
I'm going to Giant Local Megaplex to see Transformers tonight, but I'm thinking I may just stand near the line for this shit and scream out the "twist" ending, a la Harry Potter spoilers at Harrod's. Although, seriously, didn't everyone know the twist as soon as you saw the trailer?
Of course, if you're dim enough to want to see this, you're dim enough that it may actually not seem obvious.

Posted by: isabelle at July 11, 2007 3:40 PM

WOW. That is an AMAZING review, thank you.

Maybe the sickest thing about this is that, through billboards and sidebar ads, they are making sure that people HAVE TO see some of these images, whether we want to (or want our kids to) or not. It's not enough that they want to spread the hatred among diseased fuckers who want to see this - they want ALL OF US contaminated.

No... wait, y'know what's sicker? The fact that this movie has an R rating. Which means that there will in fact be depraved people who HAVE to see this, who don't bother getting a sitter, and take the kiddies along. It's no secret that the MPAA will tolerate violence over sexual content, but are you fucking kidding me? This got an R?!?

ps: mutterhals pseudo-feminist? Where the hell do you get "pseudo" out of this?

Posted by: Edith at July 11, 2007 3:43 PM

You have no idea how angry at the world I am after reading this review. I knew this movie was "tourtue porn", but I had no idea it would be so brutal. I think I may have to go off on a rant to the guy in the next office who is going to see this later today. Thank you Dustin for reminding me that decent men do not get off on this utter shit.

Posted by: Jackers at July 11, 2007 3:44 PM

Thank you thank you thank you for legitimizing my initial disgust for this movie. Just from the trailers I figured out who the killer was, and that the Cuth is totally useless. Brava.

Posted by: Catherine at July 11, 2007 3:46 PM


TK- i read an article not too long ago about why they make these sort of movies, apparently they're brilliant business decisions. hire a bunch of nobody actors/actresses, get your brother in law to do the special effects, and forego any semblance of plot or integrity all for the bargain pricetag of under $3 million or so. then even if the movie tanks and only makes $9 million or so, you've still tripled your investment.

sick and probably bad for culture as a whole, but the almighty dollar once again has the final say.

Posted by: the-ian at July 11, 2007 3:47 PM

Came here hoping for an HP5 review and checked this review out, despite having decided three weeks ago that Courtney Solomon was one despicable piece of shit -- and holy mother of GOD, thank you for this. I love palpable, smart rage.

Posted by: wickedcurve at July 11, 2007 3:47 PM

::::standing up, applauding::::

Thank you, sir.

Joss Whedon's post on the subject over at Whedonesque, to which you posted a link in the comments section of an earlier review, is the perfect companion piece to this. If I had the faintest idea how to post a link in comments, I'd do it. Anyone else know how?

Oh, and a second noodge to change "deprivation" to "depravity" up there in the second paragraph. I think the clause is missing an "of", also. Sorry. Can't stop the copyeditor in my soul.

Posted by: elizabells at July 11, 2007 3:51 PM

What's Captivity?

Posted by: roXet at July 11, 2007 3:52 PM

You know, as a former Catholic school student, I understand more than most the compelling power of transgression and transgressive art. But this movie strikes me more as a sad example of attention-grubbing one-upsmanship rather than of a truly expressive artistic contravention of conventional morality. So Hostel impales a girl on a spike (I gather...I haven't actually seen it)? Great! Let's have our protagonist drink a blended cocktail of human body parts. The people who put this schlock together must not have gotten very much love from Daddy, if this is the way they choose to express themselves.

Also, I recently read an article in the NY Times about that party Mr. Solomon put together for the release of this film, and I recall being very skeeved out by the way he came off. He reminded me of one of those boys in highschool that--you could just tell--had a whole passel of anger issues just bubbling under the surface. They never did or said anything too notably untoward; they weren't brilliant; they weren't goths, punks, or whatever; they were generally pretty bland or nondescript; but every once in a while they would say something in class that was so completely off the wall that everybody kind of shuddered and the teacher just moved along. Or they occasionally doodled guns or people being stabbed. It's like someone's given them an enormous canvas to vent their backward and puerile rage.

Lord, who's green-lighting this stuff?? It's not art or even entertainment.

Posted by: m at July 11, 2007 3:55 PM

You know, with all the sick fucks in this world who hurt people for their own entertainment? It truly terrifies me when it becomes a financial no-brainer to churn out torture porn as way to strike it rich.

Posted by: Wednesday at July 11, 2007 4:00 PM

The only thing that made me laugh about anything related to this movie is the fact that the posters on my train that I see every fucking morning (which, by the way, feature half of Cuthbert's face, complete with her runny mascara, pressed up against a chain-link fence--SEXY!) contain the word "grisly", spelled "grizzly". Does that mean I get to see a huge brown bear with a ball gag somewhere in this film?

Feministing also had a blurb on this movie, and I just cannot believe that people are actually still trying to do the whole "But...but...she's empowered!" bullshit with this movie. Sick fucks.

Posted by: em at July 11, 2007 4:01 PM

hell yeah. now thats a scathing review. and i SO called it the first time i saw the preview some months ago that the co-captive was actually the captor. its obvious from second one of the preview. i will be avoiding this movie at all cost, just like ive avoided every torture porn piece of crap since i first unknowingly watched the excrement pile that is saw a few years back. i can proudly say i havent seen hostel, hostel II, saw II or III, or any of the other knockoffs released since 2004. unfortunately, plenty of other people see these movies and think they are AWESOME because of the sweet gore, man. ive tried to get people to explain to me the appeal of these movies, but nobody can get anywhere beyond "the gore is really cool". fuck these movies, and thank you for this review.

Posted by: jordan at July 11, 2007 4:05 PM

i can't believe people would seriously not come to this site because of the ad banners. who actually pays attention to those things?

Posted by: alex at July 11, 2007 4:06 PM

^5 Dustin, TK, Stella, et al. You make our world a better place--by existing and by speaking the truth. There is no 'pseudo' about it. This was articulate, justified, and righteous feminist wrath. This is the moral slap at those who deny--by producing such filth--that women are fully human beings worthy of respect. Shame on anyone who would participate in "creating" such offensive material. There are other ways to pay the bills that do not create a vacuum in your being/soul/essence/humanity--even if you are a movie starlet or self-proclaimed movie screenwriter, director, producer. . .

Posted by: rudy at July 11, 2007 4:10 PM

Now, if only it was Ann Coulter as the victim....

In bad taste, I know, but to me she is just as exploitative and disgusting as this movie appears to be.

Posted by: nexus 6 at July 11, 2007 4:12 PM

This review, and the many comments, remind me of why I adore this site and the people who frequent it (especially the grammar gurus--I love you, fellow geeks!).

Dustin, I thank you for being such a great guy. What a great role model you'll be for wee Pajiba-hyphenate. Speaking of which, has the little one made his/her appearance yet? Been a little out of the loop lately!

Posted by: MO at July 11, 2007 4:13 PM

Wow. And here I was, thinking I would feel bad for the guy having to review "Chuck and Larry". I had completely ignored this movie, with good reason it seems. My condolences for having to put up with this drek.

I also don't understand how anyone can argue that killing the guy who tortured you on end is supposedly empowering. What, because she realized what a sick fuck he was and gave him what he so rightfully deserved, suddenly she is woman, hear her roar? That isn't empowerment, that is revenge.

If anything does happen to the people responsible for this, they would have unintentionally provided a justification defense for the perpetrator. Not saying you should do anything, just saying.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 11, 2007 4:17 PM

Sounds about right.

Thanks once again for a review that hits the nail right over the goddamn head.

Posted by: AL at July 11, 2007 4:21 PM

As to "feminist hand-wringing", how do you think people would react if the torture porn genre portrayed exclusively children or people of colour or a specific ethnicity being violated? A child?! Why that would be disgusting! But it is always a woman, so it is somehow feminist histrionics to complain that this kind of cinematic mistreatment is abhorrent. We're half the human race, but apparently on some level we have it coming.

The older I get, the angrier this stuff makes me. Enrages me actually.

I wrote to Dustin last week to complain about the placement of the advertisement on the site, so I just want to add my thank you of your indictment to everyone else's.

Posted by: Jocelyn at July 11, 2007 4:22 PM

Wow. I was actually thinking "Captivity" was going to be a bit of a bait and switch after the over the top marketing. Guess not. This flick is the last gasp of torture flicks, I'm guessing it sinks faster than Hostel 2 especially as repugnant as it sounds. I'm not at all surprised about the killer's identity, I had that pegged from the damn TV ads. Just shows how pointless a flick it is, hopefully this is the last nail in the coffin of the genre. Until "Saw 4" at least, that one's inevitable at this point.

Posted by: Rob at July 11, 2007 4:22 PM

I just KNOW that very very soon I will see stupid morons running to the theater to see this.

I dread that pain.

Posted by: dinka at July 11, 2007 4:23 PM

God bless you.

Posted by: Beckylooo at July 11, 2007 4:28 PM

Great review Dustin. I had no intention of seeing this movie. I'm tired of the direction that this is going, with each movie getting more disgusting than the last. Your review has me pissed at this trend.On a side note: "That we're not actually a nation of sick, twisted frat-boy fuckers who'd get off on this sort deprivation. "
I wince every time I read something like that, because being I am in a fraternity, and I can tell you that neither myself nor my friends are twisted sick fucks. It feels to me like hearing about a crime perpetrated by a young black man and saying "all young men are assholes" or "all black people commit crimes". There certainly is a tradition of mysogyny in some fraternities. However, this is not the rule of every one, or of everybody in them. And I read this review and I feel that it is implied that I am responsible for this, or that as a "frat-boy" I would want to watch somebody drink human organ shakes or stab their mother. This is sick to any reasonable person. Please don't indict me for this crap.

Posted by: Matt at July 11, 2007 4:30 PM

Right. The Fuck. On. Dustin.

*clap clap clap clap clap clap*

Posted by: Jen at July 11, 2007 4:38 PM

Lionsgate apparently didn't learn anything from the way "Hostel Part 2" bombed, disappearing in just about a month. So they serve another helping of this bloody swill, with the only difference being that Joffe is a once-talented director now whoring himself and Roth is staying in the gutter where he started.

Should there prove to be justice and "Captivity" tanks, I wonder if Joffe will throw a tantrum about all the mean people who talked crap about his movie. I will be pleased to be among that number.

Posted by: Brett at July 11, 2007 4:39 PM

Thanks for this review -- this torture-porn crap has got to stop. I have enough reasons to fear for my soul without worrying that I haven't done enough to fight this kind of garbage.

Posted by: Meander at July 11, 2007 4:42 PM

Thank you, both for taking one for the team as it were and for talking about the implications of the movie just beyond the fact that it was a bad film.




I'm just glad you use your powers for good.

Posted by: telesilla at July 11, 2007 4:55 PM

where's the hp review? i need some happiness in my life after this one. but thanks for taking one for the team....no matter how bad and offensive these films may be.

Posted by: danae at July 11, 2007 4:59 PM

The films existence has pissed me off since I heard about it. For these reasons, I actually hesitated before clicking the review, simply because I've a tendency toward anger issues.

That being said?
All last vestiges of my faith in humanity are quite dead, but the review? MAGICAL.
Oh the livid scathing hatred.. it was like Christmas! But uplifting!
Bravo, Dustin. And as always, your disgust toward misogyny is adored. Only wish t'were a more common trait.

Posted by: the hel at July 11, 2007 5:04 PM

Dustin, God bless you. You deserve a Pulitzer in criticism for this review. Why shit like this is made is beyond me. Hell, your description of the "smoothie" was enough to gross me out and spoil my appetite. Hell, I feel downright nauseous and I didn't even SEE this damned thing (by the way, you can see that "twist" ending coming in the TV trailer, for chrissakes!). I'm sorry, however, that you had to sit through this abomination. My prayers are with you for a quick recovery.

Posted by: Armando at July 11, 2007 5:06 PM

"Look, I can appreciate that this movie sucked, but I could have done without all the pseudo-feminist hand wringing that accompanied this review.
"

As the father of a little girl who will one day be a woman, and who wants said little girl to be able to inherit a world where she can not only accomplish anything a man can but be equally compensated for it and have the same rights and privileges of the male gender, let me just say:

FUCK YOU, Mutterhals. Fuck you right in the god-damned ear you mysoginistic fucker.

And yes, I know I'm judging you on a single, stupid, stupid comment on a blog, but prove me wrong.

Asshole.

Posted by: Armando at July 11, 2007 5:14 PM

Long time reader - first time writer. I'm not the P.C. type who objects to a clever reference that incorporates a stereotype but, I take umbrage with one element of your review: "That we're not actually a nation of sick, twisted frat-boy fuckers..." If you are referring to demented male sadists who enjoy a premise about mysognisitc violence against women, I concur.

I was a member of a fraternity. Although capable of objectifying women (as opposed to G.D.Is? or sci fi fan boys?, or math geeks?), I and we are not sadists. What does "frat boy" add? A reference to a demographic or a concealed elitist stab?

Posted by: Michael at July 11, 2007 5:17 PM

You know, I just watched "This Movie is Not Yet Rated" the other day, and the fact that this got an R RATING!!!?!?!?!! is appalling. I'm never listening to the MPAA again, and in the future time when I have children, I'll just pre-screen all movies they watch for content.

Honestly, I'd rather my theoretical young children see porn than a woman killing her dog with a shot gun and drinking a smoothie of human organs. At least sex is something that will one day have a place in their lives.

Thanks for the review, thanks for being a feminist (love!) and thanks for not apologizing for either. If there were no Ms.Pajiba Hyphenate, you'd have yourself a 20 year old groupie.

Posted by: Genny at July 11, 2007 5:33 PM

That was a really intense read, sent chills down my spine.

I thought this movie wasn't out yet- because isn't it set to come out on friday the 13th? how come you reviewed it early?

Posted by: dene at July 11, 2007 5:41 PM

Bravo! I decided to boycott this movie from the first teaser I saw, and I've been frightening my peers with how animated I've been in my denouncement of it and my pleas with them not to see it, ever.

I've in fact severed all contact with a guy I[thought I] knew because he wanted to take me to see it on a date. He was way to interested in it (which, by the way, any interest at all is too much interest). I very nearly slapped him.

Posted by: adamae at July 11, 2007 5:43 PM

Judging from the trailer alone, You could
replace Lindsay Lohan's name for
Cuthbert's and describe the
upcoming "I Know Who Killed Me."

God Help Us All when there are people who
consider this dreck entertainment!!!

Posted by: SM at July 11, 2007 5:45 PM

Bravo, sir. Bravo.

Posted by: Rebecca at July 11, 2007 5:48 PM

Thank you so much. I'm actually near tears with fury right now. I had really hoped that this movie wasn't going to be as bad as I feared, but your review confirmed my worst suspicions. Thank you for sitting through this shit so I didn't have to, and for your awesome, awesome, awesome review.

Also, anyone who doesn't think this movie is intrinsically bound up with misogyny needs their fucking head examined.

Posted by: wealhtheow at July 11, 2007 5:49 PM

i just had to click on the ad for 'little odd forest' after reading that one! thank god that was there as my eyes we're on fire from reading that.

Posted by: maxpurr9 at July 11, 2007 5:53 PM

Please please please change deprivation to depravity. It'sa killin me!

Posted by: Squarah at July 11, 2007 5:54 PM

Dustin, you're my hero. You poor guy, having to watch this tripe. Thank you for warning us against Captivity so we don't have to sit through it. Add another named to the list of people who refuse to watch this garbage. I will threaten all my friends, if they DO watch this, they will be tied down and forced to watch Cheaper by the Dozen 2 on repeat for 3 days.

Posted by: Stacey at July 11, 2007 5:54 PM

Can't wait to see this one!!!!!

Posted by: me at July 11, 2007 5:55 PM

I have to defend the filmmaker here.

All those scenes of torture and the cold distant tone were added in by the production company, After Dark, to capitalize on the torture porn craze. Who runs after dark? Why Pajiba darling, director of An American Haunting, Courtney Solomon. He personally bought the rights to the film, then made them change everything. There originally was no gore, no torture, and actual plot.

The reason why the blond girl is so vague is because the original point of the film was a psychological portrayal of how a man could bring themselves to cause this level of harm to another human being. As in, a film more in line with Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (very good) than Hostel (very, very bad). More Hitchcock than Eli Roth (yes, I know that A) I'm knocking Eli a lot here and B) Hitchcock didn't make Henry:..., but the point is valid).

The fact that Courtney Solomon has once again fucked up a good film is disgusting, and the fact is that the man is clinically insane.

After giving a huge rant at the recent Fangoria Weekend of Horrors convention in Secaucus, NJ, I was actually on his side. He received a raw deal from the MPAA and NOW because of a billboard for a film that hadn't even been screened by the MPAA for ratings. But after I cornered him and talked to him for a bit outside the convention, I realized the guy truly was bonkers.

Do not blame this crap on the names mentioned in the credits: this abomination was caused by Courtney Solomon.

Posted by: Robert at July 11, 2007 5:58 PM

em - thanks for the grizzly laugh, i needed that after this.

Posted by: ldini79 at July 11, 2007 6:05 PM

Wow. That fucking movie is even sicker than I thought it was - and I thought it was pretty damn bad. I felt nauseous even reading your review. I'm no Christian right-er or anything, but this is just an offense to human dignity. Damn them for doing this.

Posted by: scullypdx at July 11, 2007 6:08 PM

thank you thank you thank you dustin! and while i'm at it - thank you TK for the response to the other comment. i love this site.

Posted by: kb at July 11, 2007 6:10 PM

I am so in love with you right now it hurts me.

Posted by: elyssadc at July 11, 2007 6:11 PM

That's kind of the same twist as "Saw". Plus Elisha doesn't get naked. Plus at least "I Spit on Your Grave" had HALF of the running time being her revenge, not just the final minute.

Posted by: Godard at July 11, 2007 6:15 PM

To continue in the vain of WTF rageosity that Dustin has employed in his review, I have to ask this:

Elisha Cuthbert? What the fuck? Did you actually read the script before signing up?

Elisha isn't some actress with this shit as her 1st acting gig, so, I will respectfully say, the well-played mantra of "paying the bills" doesn't cut it. Sorry. No go. Not believing it. Not going for it. I'm really, really hoping that, somehow, the script she read was totally different than what the movie turned out to be. Maybe it was supposed to be empowering, and the jerkwads changed scenes mid-production, and she already signed her contract and couldn't get out of it. Yeah, that's it. Because if she went into this with eyes wide open, I......can't fathom it.

What's worse is the sinking feeling that she may very well get MORE offers after this tripe has been released. Oh goodness, I need something soothing - like a blowtorch to take to the head (or testicles) of anyone with decision-making responsibility for this.

Posted by: Daphne at July 11, 2007 6:16 PM

I haven't seen the trailers or the movie but from the hype, apparent controversy, and your review, it really looks like something my dog would barf up. I'd rather watch the Benchwarmers, and that's saying a whole fucking lot right there.

Posted by: Lola at July 11, 2007 6:17 PM

Wait, so the dog was ok, right? But seriously, I have a feeling if Dateline: To Catch a Predator is looking for leads, they should just wait outside the theater when this movie is over.

Posted by: Hollywood Phony at July 11, 2007 6:18 PM

I've said it before... if simply being disgusted by a trend of violence towards women makes me a feminist, well, then by golly I'm a motherfuckin' feminist. I'd hoped this was something people were pretty much in agreement on, but apparently movie trends are proving otherwise.

Which fucking sucks. And Jocelyn actually made the best point, which deserves to be reiterated - if this was children, or people of color, the world would be up in arms. But since it's a girl, oh, ha! It's just another torture movie, no big deal. That, also, fucking sucks. And finally, in addition to my question of "what's the point?", I suppose we should also be asking "what's the appeal?" I mean, I know, different strokes, different folks, all that shit. But seriously, honestly - someone tell me what is appealing/interesting about this movie?

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go kiss my wife and make her dinner. Anyone for bbq?

Posted by: TK at July 11, 2007 6:19 PM

To TK, Armando (and Dustin): Snicker-snack!

You wonderful men are the JS Mills to our Wollstonecrafts.

Posted by: Ranylt at July 11, 2007 6:21 PM

Jesus Christ. I want to throw up just reading the review, let alone seeing the movie.

We live in a fucked up society, people.

Posted by: Missy at July 11, 2007 6:21 PM

Way to go, Dustin. That review was actually worthy of the film. Not that I've seen it, or have any plans to. The only way I'd watch that pile of cinematic crap is if someone drugged me and kidnapped me, then forced me to sit through it Clockwork Orange-style as a prelude to romantic, consensual sex.

Posted by: Mr. Atoz at July 11, 2007 6:24 PM

agreeing with Genny, as i read the review it remined me of regular porn... why would you go to the cinema to see this movie? why does it clasify as a "horror movie", a title that has some social recognition and cinematic value? how can the director support this work? or the main female star! what were they thinking? who pays for this things? do their mothers aprove?
i don't know, this review has left me hopeless. not because i was expecting a good review, but everytime i see a movie with such plot even exist, i think of how sick some people are.

power to the pajiba

Posted by: sol at July 11, 2007 6:26 PM

cool out, bro.

Posted by: brandt at July 11, 2007 6:46 PM

i'm sorry for the double post, but i've just read TK's post, and wanted to comment again:
TK: "But seriously, honestly - someone tell me what is appealing/interesting about this movie?"
i have absolutely no fucking clue. the lack of plot shows how much it's only about torture porn. it's like those really fucked up anime, where a monster rapes a girl, and you can't even think of how anyone can jerk off to that.
but the difference is that the former doesn't show on the cinema across America. and it's not performed by actors and actresses. not that this makes it acceptable, of course, but i don't know... i fear this movie is going to make a lot of money.

Posted by: sol at July 11, 2007 6:56 PM

Not to defend the indefensible but...

Were men prominent in Charlie's Angels or Baywatch? Nope. So there is this thing I'll refer to as tittilation in our culture, and it is vastly disproportionately male driven. Anybody here equally "disgusted" by the genre of women in prison films e.g., Caged Heat?

Is this 'film' is worse because she consumes blended human viscera???

Leaving that aside, (onto the angry feminist issue, would a film of torture againt a man be "anti-male" versus simply misanthropic generally?

Are we sensitive to ensure that women are not debased, because there is historical subjugation and a reactive movement, or do we really care about the debasement of our culture overall?

Man repeateldy stikes wife - villified as a criminal and an ogre. Wife shoots same husband in his sleep (suffering from "battered spouse syndrome"), and she's a hero and the protagonist of a made for tv movie. I know it not exactly on point, and these cases are "man bites dog" but...

Again, not exactly on point, but...I have friends who own and use fur lined handcuffs. One partner is "captive."

So what makes this especially vulgar? A pretty blond teen? A dead dog? The apparent glamorization of her victimization? That its man doing this to a woman? That a human is doing it to a human?

Posted by: Miguel at July 11, 2007 6:58 PM

Your friends are having consensual sex in their home, and if you're alluding to furry handcuffs making that sex a little kinky, that's your perogative. Hopefully they're honest about it with each other and enjoy the hell out of it. Honest kinky is one thing.
It's quite another to disguise what's happening to that girl in the movie as 'female empowerment'.
It's not honest, b/c the real goal of the flick is get some dweeb's rocks off by witnessing torture porn.

and also, I think the current state of the world clearly shows just how much we humans value other humans. There is already too much violence against women in this world for it to be glorified on a 40-ft screen.
I yearn for the day when we respect all life, but ya know, I ain't holdin' my breath.

Posted by: Stella at July 11, 2007 7:13 PM

oh dustin, one more thing. Roland Joffe is Mel Gibson's pen name

Posted by: brandt at July 11, 2007 7:13 PM

Nobody hates torture porn more than me. That's one of the (many) reasons I won't be seeing this movie. Or Saw. Or Hostel. Or Turistas. Etc.

But why does torture porn become worse merely because the only victim is a woman (as opposed to half of the victims being women in other torture porn)? The political overtones -- suggesting that this movie isn't so much about enjoying violence inflicted on others as it is about "the man" keeping "the woman" down -- cheapen your argument.

Look, I'm sure it's a terrible movie and a sick viewing experience. But the argument du jour on this is crap. The objections should be based on humanism, not feminism. And when this type of argument is written by a man, it reeks of paternalism.

Posted by: The Comish (sic) at July 11, 2007 7:15 PM

Well, Miguel, I'll take a couple shots at what is so "vulgar" about this.

1) The glamorization of victimization.

2) The use of cruel victimization to give sexual pleasure to viewers.

3) The sheer scale of the pain and sadism involved - sorry, your friends using fur handcuffs during sex has little to do with this kind of brutality. (I mean, really - how would you feel if your friends tortured and killed each other during sex?)

4) That a man is doing it to a woman.

5) That it is perpetuating a horrifying tradition of forcibly and cruelly debasing women.

6) That it is also perpetuating a horrifying trend of such cruelty towards women being seen as sexual and pleasurable for men.

7) That a human is doing it to a human.

I mean, that's all just off the top of my head, but I think even just one of those reasons is really enough for any sane person.

Posted by: Claire at July 11, 2007 7:16 PM

Says Mark Adams of sundaymirror.co.uk...

It's "...a smartly-made little chiller that manages to keep the levels of suspense racked up pretty high while also delivering clever twists."

He then describes it as "chillingly enjoyable".

This misogenistic idiot's review sounds like it has been written by 10th grade film student.

Posted by: Alyssa at July 11, 2007 7:40 PM

Comish, I'll tell you why the "argument du jour" is relevant - because, with only a few minor exceptions, the bulk of movies like this tend to focus on women specifically suffering. You don't think there are any sociological conclusions to be drawn from that? I would absolutely object from a humanist perspective, and I do. But there is an added element of sexism to this genre that, in my view, is inescapable.

By continuing to make movies like this, I can't help but feel that it's representative of a larger cultural sickness. Your argument is not unlike saying that "men get raped too", and therefore it's not a feminist issue. Yes, men get raped, but they are in the vast minority. If the majority of offenses (in this case, cinematic ones), are against women, then... well, the fucking shoe fits.

Similarly, as mentioned before - if there was a burgeoning genre of films about torture, but the majority of the people being tortured were gay, or black... you wouldn't draw any homophobic or racist conclusions? I find that hard to believe.

Posted by: TK at July 11, 2007 8:06 PM

One question: At any point is she stalked by a cougar?

Actually, as much as -- in theory -- I'd like nothing more than to see Kim Bauer suffer, you're right across the board.

Seriously, thanks for the the venom; this piece of shit is no doubt deserving of every drop of it.

Posted by: Chez at July 11, 2007 8:06 PM

"So what makes this especially vulgar? A pretty blond teen? A dead dog? The apparent glamorization of her victimization? That its man doing this to a woman? That a human is doing it to a human?"

Yes.

Posted by: Armando at July 11, 2007 8:36 PM

I second the appreciation for your "exquisite fury," Dustin. This is a brilliantly enraged review of what looks to be a hideously offensive and disgusting movie. I don't know who the hell this Joffe guy is, but I hope he crashes and burns in spectacular Hollywood style. As for Elisha Cuthbert, is she so hard up for roles that she resorted to this, or has the bleach seeped into her brain and destroyed her logic and sense of self-respect? Idiot.

Five-star review, Dustin. Exuberant applause.

Posted by: Katie at July 11, 2007 9:15 PM

Dustin, you are a beautiful, beautiful man. And I'm am very proud to say that this tripe doesn't look like it's going to play anywhere in my city. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Posted by: prairielily at July 11, 2007 9:28 PM

But why does torture porn become worse merely because the only victim is a woman (as opposed to half of the victims being women in other torture porn)? The political overtones -- suggesting that this movie isn't so much about enjoying violence inflicted on others as it is about "the man" keeping "the woman" down -- cheapen your argument.

You missed something entirely--it's not just about "enjoying violence inflicted on others" it's using sadism to make the main character a more willing sexual plaything for the sadist. He's torturing the hell out of her until she consents out of desperation and insanity, which can't even remotely be considered consent. It's not just that the vicitm's a woman, it's that the victim is a woman who is victimized solely for the sexual gratification it brings her assailant. That's how this is steeped in misogyny.

Posted by: Sally at July 11, 2007 9:30 PM

Thank you, Dustin.

Posted by: demondoll at July 11, 2007 9:44 PM

it's about fucking time! thank you!! thank you!!!

Posted by: Allie at July 11, 2007 10:11 PM

it's about fucking time! thank you!! thank you!!!

Posted by: Allie at July 11, 2007 10:12 PM

the thing that bothers me the most about this piece of crap is the sheer number of people that are complicit in it's creation. movies don't get made without dozens, perhaps hundreds of people involved. every single one of these people are to blame for bringing this to our tables.

Posted by: groanygirl at July 11, 2007 10:14 PM

Dustin, you totally saved me from this crappy movie, which I was only going to see because my scheduled film's release got pushed back. Now I'm so glad I don't have to watch the organ smoothie scene. I hope this movie completely flops, and for once, mere gratuitous sensationalism will not be enough to keep a film's ticket sales afloat.

Posted by: agent bedhead at July 11, 2007 10:25 PM

What I love about this review is that not only did you efficiently and so eloquently express your hate for the cruelty, the evil and the overall pointless grossness of the movie; you also hated it because of the lame plot twist that meant NOTHING and would have made it a bad movie anyway without all the other shit.

That's what made your review a great critique. If you just had a problem with the content, it would have been a kind of amateurish review. But since you had a problem with the way the content was delivered, the review has some good legs on which to stand.

It's not just a bad movie. It's TECHNICALLY a bad movie.

I don't mean to be condescending. I just get on a smartypants tangent sometimes. Sorry.

Posted by: Robert Sims at July 11, 2007 10:35 PM

After hearing about the odious ads they had in LA for this movie, I was wondering if it just got shelved. I was shocked to see an ad for it here as well. I cannot find the words in three languages to describe how vile this whole genre is on every possible level.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your review and comments.

Posted by: Girl With Curious Hair at July 11, 2007 10:45 PM

If you need a palate cleanser, may I suggest Patton Oswalt's new cd, "Werewolves and Lollipops?"

My Sweet Baby Jesus, it is awesome. Patton is getting dangerously close to being Bill-Hicks-Legendary.

Mark my words. In thirty years, it will be: Bruce, Carlin, Pryor, Hicks, Oswalt.

And no, I'm not a publicist. I'm just a schmuck who works in a bookstore.

Posted by: Robert Sims at July 11, 2007 10:50 PM

as a female, i thank you. this kind of misogynistic crap doesn't deserve to be made, produced or seen. i grew sick to my stomach just reading the review.

Posted by: citizen_cris at July 11, 2007 10:51 PM

I love (and by love, read loathe and detest with every fibre of my being) how she has to fuck the guy at the end. Cos that's what I'd want to do after drinking human viscera & shooting my pet - have sex with a complete stranger. That's what all of us uptight women need - a good screwing. I don't care if she kills him in the end - he still got what he wanted out of her, using the vilest means imaginable. And she submits - as any woman would do in that situation, NOT.

And for all you idiots who can't comprehend the so-called "angry feminist issue", well, I just don't know where to begin. Here's a basic lesson: Women constitute the overwhelming number of real-life victims of violence, sexual and otherwise, and overwhelmingly, the perpetrators are men. Therefore, it is reasonable to draw the conclusion that there is obviously an issue with the perception of women by men (not all, but some), which must be due to some kind of socialisation process (unless you want to argue that men are genetically wired to abuse women, which I assume you don't). If we look at the portrayal of women in culture such as movies, we see that again, they are often portrayed as victims of violence, and these movies are disconcertingly popular, and on the increase. This movie in particular is about the victimisation of someone BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN, and he wants to have sex with her. Join the dots.

Of course it's offensive on a human level, but to pretend not to see the implications for the very concerning (and real) issue of violence against women (particularly sexual violence) is completely disingenuous.

Posted by: L2 at July 11, 2007 10:53 PM

It's not just that the vicitm's a woman, it's that the victim is a woman who is victimized solely for the sexual gratification it brings her assailant. That's how this is steeped in misogyny.


Thank you, Sally.


One thing to consider here: it's almost impossible to say "what if this were about a man?" Can anyone here actually imagine that Hollywood would make this same film with a male victim? Yes I know there are male victims in horror movies, but something like this, where the very point of the torture and the horror is to batter a victim down until they'll have sex with their torturer, simply would not get made today.

Posted by: telesilla at July 11, 2007 10:58 PM

I hope you don't mind Dustin, but I am going to cut and paste this review (with proper acknowledgements) into an email and send it en masse, with the attached message that I am requesting that anyone with a shred of human decency boycott this abhorrent dreck.

Posted by: L2 at July 11, 2007 11:00 PM

Also, a) sorry about the double breaks and b) I am NOT saying that this same movie SHOULD be made with a man as a victim; it shouldn't be made at all.

Posted by: telesilla at July 11, 2007 11:02 PM

Thank you for this review Dustin. I am sooooo tired of this Hollywood fascination with degrading and destroying women. Hey we're fighting a war against the evil terrorists who degrade, dehumanize and murder their women for not wearing their burkas or for falling in love with someone who isn't their first cousin...let's make it sexy for Americans to do the same on film! That should change global society's view of our culture!

Geez. I am trying to become a mother at this point in my life. I have nieces I'd jump in front of a semi for (if I weren't pregnant) to save their precious kooky smart meaningful lives. And crap like Captivity is somehow really cool to go watch for young men? I get the whole sick fantasy crap of insecure walking talking dildo-heads...fine...but guess what? It doesn't always have to be the man torturing the woman Hollywood. Capiche? Oh, you think that wouldn't sell? No shit.

Posted by: Clevelandchick at July 11, 2007 11:16 PM

deprivation --> depravation

Posted by: Skorp at July 11, 2007 11:32 PM

Dustin, words cannot express my admiration for you at this moment!

Here's hoping this film tanks so badly that studios will think twice before cranking out any more stupid-assed torture porn crapola.

Posted by: chainsaw mary at July 11, 2007 11:44 PM

Every time I have seen an ad for this movie, I get a queasy feeling in the pit of my stomach without really knowing why. Thank you for telling me why. I am telling everyone I know to boycott.

Posted by: Rachel at July 11, 2007 11:51 PM

Dustin: If do dont mind a brief respite from the thorough ass licking you have been receiving thus far, I think it is complete bullshit to keep that add up of Captivity, contracts be damned. Mind you, I have absolutely no interest in seeing that lame-ass movie, but dont slap these pornagraphers with one hand and take their blood money with the other. You cant get it both ways. Thats hypocrisy. And it doesn't matter that you take the time to point out in your review that you took the add without seeing the movie. You dont get to put on the Publisher hat one day and then the reviewer hat the next -- its a business hazard, I know. Now, I am not saying that you need to issue the studio a refund if you take their add and then trash their movie. Call the movies shitty all you want, its when you take the moral high ground, when you say, I dont know, that you want to throw the filmmakers into the bonfire and emasculate the director because their film is repugnant just put your money where your mouth is and take the add down. Very truly yours, Your friendly neighborhood ombudsman.

Posted by: JP at July 11, 2007 11:52 PM

Would I be up in arms about how disgusting a film like this truly is if the victim were male? Absolutely.

Does that mean that this film, which has been made and is about a female victim, is not a feminist issue. No! The argument is useless because it's a hypothetical standing up to FACT! The one has nothing to do with the other.

And when exactly did 'feminist' become a bad word? This revulsion and outrage is not unreasonable, and I applaud anyone, anywhere who is bold enough to express it. Starting with Dustin.

Posted by: adamae at July 12, 2007 12:04 AM

WTF IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOT. No, the imbecile. No, the crooked mother fucker. No. I can't even. Good GOD what is wrong with whoever came up with this movie?!?!

Posted by: Rachel at July 12, 2007 12:17 AM

Hollywood Phony: If only Dateline WOULD wait outside for these creeps. They're probably scarier than what they usually collect.
The whole thing just disturbs me to no end. I need a drink and a good dose of something silly to get the visuals out of my head!
P.S.
Dustin, you rock! Thanks!

Posted by: Trixie at July 12, 2007 12:42 AM

Just realized this as I was catching up on the comments (almost all of which are brilliant, I love you all)... the thing that would be laughable about this film (if it weren't so hideously wrong on every level) is the very idea that the victimized woman would end up having sex with ANYONE. After an ordeal like that? Who the hell could feel ANYTHING, much less feel like fucking? She wouldn't be looking for sex from her loving husband after that, much less from a stranger.

At first I thought it was just another example of the complete lack of plot - but then I realized it's just a whole new layer of disease: wear the bitch down until she becomes desperate - desperate for some cock! Because that's what she really needs to feel safe and whole! WTF?!?!?

(And because I can't get away from this: but just be sure you don't actually show the sex, because if you show actual fucking, you'll get an NC-17! And you'll lose all those family viewers!)

Posted by: Edith at July 12, 2007 12:44 AM

"And when exactly did 'feminist' become a bad word?"

The day Ronald Reagan won the popular vote for President.

Ironically, I vote 'yes' to the Imus comeback.

And I'll probably only catch a few minutes of this p.o.s. Captivity when it shows up on Cinemax later this year, hopefully the toy-poodle shooting scene. I hate those yappy little mutts.

Posted by: matt at July 12, 2007 12:56 AM

Dustin, I love you, you're fabulous. Thank you for throwing yourself on that grenade -- on behalf of all right-thinking people everywhere, I apologize that a movie like that was ever made. It's a symptom of a sickness in our culture, a deadness of fellow-feeling, and it's going to have repercussions in the future, I just know it. Thank you for your revulsion and your call to arms.

Posted by: zh. at July 12, 2007 1:15 AM

I think what also upsets me a lot about these kind of movies, (and no, I havent seen one..my idea of a truly upsettingly "scary" film is the Dutch version of "The Vanishing", "Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer" or "Repulsion")...but I still cannot fathom how there was real-life footage, accessible to anyone, any age, anywhere, of the real life, no special effects, no CG, not its not a movie-with-actors, murders of Nicholas Berg and Daniel Pearl all over the Internet? I couldnt watch...but I bet I am in the minority. How desensitized to the most truly terrifying images available have people become.., and especially this 18-34 year old male demographic that this torture porn madness is aimed at. Does it play into the fantasy that the War in Iraq is one big StreetFighter video game? Granted, some of the videogames these guys play are pretty raw. And stuff on YouTube, yikes...so whats a little more acid thrown around, ya gotta wonder..?? The bar has truly been raised..or lowered,perhaps. Sheeesh.
IN any case, as a woman, and a mom of a son ,I am so grateful for your righteous scorn,and despair,in this review, Dustin. My own 25 year old son Colin and I can still watch "Fawlty Towers" together, and have a good laugh : i am so gratified that he doesnt possess the rage and fear toward pretty girls that these older (and obviously quite psychosexually damaged) pathetic little pencil-dick "men" who produce this kind of shit obviously do. The healthy attitudes of self-confident and politically conscious men in speaking out against such obscenities as "Craptivity" go a long way in changing the zeitgeist of the kulchur. As a longtime feminist, I do welcome men as allies..and dont think they are ALL potential rapists,stalkers and serial killers..but based on the examples of blatant woman-fear and misogyny as torture-porn is,hey,hang on a minute...
May Craptivity join Hostel 2 in the bowels of obscurity that it so heartily deserves, and tank with nary a ripple. And Elisha,.get a new agent, girlygirl.
Gee, should I feel kinda bad for Roland Joffe, maybe?..an Oscar for "The Killing Fields", and now this?? How does he explain himself to people..his wife, his daughters..? And what kinda guy is named Courtney? Like a boy named Sue? Questions, questions..
Cheers, and good wishes, and to all a good night.

Posted by: devildoggie at July 12, 2007 1:21 AM

Yeah, whatever, men are the victims of violence in torture porn. When are they the victims of *sexual* violence in torture porn? Never. In Hostel II they had a woman torturer, and whom did she torture? Another woman. In a sexual way. Do they ever depict men sexually torturing other men? Or women sexually torturing men? Never. Would that be any better? No, but it's the only reasonable example of setting this kind of misogyny on its head. And it Never. Fucking . Happens.

The violence is sexual. The victim is female. The depiction is gratuitously sexual. Ergo, feminist incensement. There is no other fathomable argument to be made.

Posted by: Jen at July 12, 2007 1:33 AM

That may have been the most intense article I have ever read. Holy shit man. I will never see this movie. ever.

Posted by: zmcavoy at July 12, 2007 2:07 AM

"Do they ever depict men sexually torturing other men?" Yes, see: Pulp Fiction.

Posted by: Matt at July 12, 2007 2:34 AM

This is possibly the best and most honest review I've ever read for a film in my life.

I wasn't planning to watch this film anyway - but now I'll be actively dissuading everyone I know from going to see it.

Posted by: zarahruth at July 12, 2007 2:42 AM

Damn, I was traveling today and missed all the fireworks. Well, see my comments re "Hostel II" but multiply by 10. Dustin, I can't believe you sat through this fucking crap.

The reason Cuthbert's character has sex with the guy after all the torture and abuse is because that's the pathetic fantasy of men who make these films and the needle-dick boys who enjoy them: Treat a woman like a piece of filth, and it will make her more appreciative of the good fortune of having sex with a depraved piece of shit. Her not knowing his identity in the film is just camouflage for the twisted fantasy.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at July 12, 2007 2:54 AM

Ah Pajiba, how i love thee!

Thank you, Dustin. I will be posting this(credited) and passing it around.
Everyone on this site, contributers and readers, you're good people and give me hope (let me wipe this tear away) that empathy and compassion can walk hand in hand with intelligence and sarcasm.

So thanks to all of you posters, as well...I read this site as much for the peanut gallery as the actual posts.

Posted by: bookslut at July 12, 2007 3:16 AM

Put your money where your mouth is: take down the add, or I don't believe a (motherfucking) word you say.

That said, movie sounds like a sexist piece of crap...

Posted by: seth at July 12, 2007 3:46 AM

Here's an idea (a really good one, I think): find Roland and Solomon. Strip them naked and take camera phone pictures of them. Spread the pictures around the internet and give them a taste of what it's really like to be sexually debased.

Posted by: Me! at July 12, 2007 3:49 AM

someone mentioned it and was wondering:
can we get some bumper stickers made?
specifically "fuck torture pore" i think that's pretty catchy, kinda like eye candy, no? maybe a clever visual aid?

these movies will continue for....im going to say...20 more years, becuase they get money. why? because they're marketed as horrors. people will go see them, and it doesnt matter after the point if they dont like them because tey've already forked it over. plus someone (too many comments to go sifting through them all) showed a critic review of him being "glued to his seat". now granted not every critic is a complete jackass (read: non-pajibans) its not enough....

you can tell me that 1408 wasnt a great horror movie, but god damnit, why the fuck would you bash something that is so clearly steering away from where the rest of the industry is going? if we want (good) horror movies, then fucking show respect to even the bad ones that arnt ....well, that arn't captivity.

dustin, i continue to love you as close as i can before it's technically stlalking.

Posted by: Max at July 12, 2007 4:02 AM

Oh come on, tell us what you REALLY thought.

Posted by: madleb at July 12, 2007 4:30 AM

You know, I enjoyed the brutal honesty in this review so much, that I wish Pajiba was this cruel more often.

Too many times have I come here to see praise for a movie I thought to be horrible... be scathing more often, Pajiba! People love it.

Posted by: AD at July 12, 2007 6:33 AM

dustin, i sincerely hope all the love everyone above has given you for enduring this travesty can give you comfort.

also: i am so gratified that he doesnt possess the rage and fear toward pretty girls that these older (and obviously quite psychosexually damaged) pathetic little pencil-dick "men" who produce this kind of shit obviously do.

awesome.

Posted by: razh at July 12, 2007 6:59 AM

Oh dear, Dustin. I've often felt so bad for you, because of all the utterly crappy movies you've had to withstand just so we don't have to, but this takes the cake.

I feel like sending you a fruits basket or something.

Posted by: MJ at July 12, 2007 8:09 AM

So did he like it or not?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 12, 2007 8:35 AM

To the commenters railing on Dustin for not getting rid of the ad, obviously you didn't pay attention to this part too well.

I can do nothing to get rid of, short of removing the adstrip and pissing off the other advertisers (which I've considered) or shutting down the site all together. But then I couldn't express my utter contempt for Captivity.

I would rather he take their money and keep the site running WHILE shitting on their sick movie, than to punish everyone, including himself, by shutting down. Where does that leave the Pajiba staff? Where does that leave this review, considering that no one would be able to see it? What would be more effective: a well-written, thoroughly destructive review available to anyone who uses a web search, or just another web site gone up in a puff of smoke?

Take a seat, calm the hell down, and think before you launch into invectives. Unless you just wanted to be contrary.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 12, 2007 8:39 AM

So, I'm a huge fan of horror films. I've seen many of the classics, but I'm always up for a new fix. Over the past however many years, this new subgenre, as you've dubbed it "torture porn", seems to have pulled itself into the forefront. But what is the point of torture porn? It's not really to scare like traditional horror films. Most of the material isn't scary, it's gross. It's also not really to make you think, because most of them don't even have plots at all. More just chop 'em up and spit 'em out. And they certainly aren't looking for Oscars. So what the heck is the point?

The best I can come up with is that torture porn is meant to elicit a reaction. And not just a "well, yeah, it was sort of gross, violent, whatever." Whether you end up loving it or hating it, creators of the films want you to feel that emotion through every cell of your body and scream it out loud, obsess over how awesome it was at the water cooler, or completely tear it to shreds on a blog.

So, while I have no intention of seeing this film, and while I really did love the rant above, I can't help but feel like the film succeeded. All the "female empowerment" crap is just smoke and mirrors to disguise the real truth, the director just really wanted to get someone screaming. And I can't help but feel like he succeeded...

:(

Posted by: David at July 12, 2007 9:56 AM

This is the response I hope for when I learned that According to Jim was renewed.

Posted by: anikitty at July 12, 2007 10:03 AM

One (only by the barest margins) positive thing I can infer* from this review is that these films are beginning to realize the sexual lust lurking within the torture. That people are getting off on this shit. Now if only they could show that as being sick rather than the norm, we could be getting somewhere.

*Infer because, obviously, I didn't see this crap. I don't even watch the Saw films and they, at least, seem to have some semblance of plot.

Posted by: Christin at July 12, 2007 10:09 AM

Seriously, how can Miguel and The Comish fail to see that these film are specifically harmful to women?

Just judging from the trailer I saw before 1408, this film is designed for men to get off on the voyeuristic way the torture of a nubile young woman is presented to them. The other half of this film's goal is to keep women terrified and "in their place".

I mean, it even says in big, bold, 14-foot-high letters on the screen- "Do you still think it's safe to go out alone at night?" or something to that effect. This question is POINTEDLY directed at women b/c, in conjunction with the words, the trailer shows Cuthbert- a woman- out alone and being stalked like an antelope by a lion. Not to mention, what man is afraid to go out alone at night? I've never heard of one. AND it's women specifically that are told their whole lives by fathers and mothers and everyone else not to be out alone at night. Or drive alone after dark. What man has ever been conditioned to fear this sort of thing?

This film is ACTIVELY telling women that if they go out alone at night, if they behave in an independant manner- THIS WILL HAPPEN TO THEM. They will be tortured back into submission. This movie is telling women that, no matter what they do, they are to be held captive by men. If you want to leave the house, you'd better have a man with you to "protect" you, and if you don't another man will come along and snatch you and torture you for stepping out of line.

Am I the only person who caught that EXTREMELY BLATANT part of the message?

Posted by: BeeBee at July 12, 2007 10:37 AM

What!? Roland Joffé who directed THE MISSION directed this? How can . . . My god, my SOUL HURTS.
Tempted to take Warren Zevon's advice, to take a Thompson Gun and "Blow off Roland's head"
Never watching it, and will never date anyone who likes it.

Posted by: Kiku at July 12, 2007 10:56 AM

Aren't messages like this always obvious and blatant to those most likely affected by them?
Meanwhile, people who are least likely to be the targeted audience bitch about how sensitive and emotional we get when we complain?

And, just as an aside, regarding the whole 'feminist' as a bad word debate, can I just tell you that one of the most moving sights I ever witnessed was in DC a few years ago. My sister and I were walking down the Washington Mall and in front of us was your typical looking 'nukular' family, a trim Grandpa and Grandma, their 30 something daughter w/ her husband and their two kids. They were all wearing these blaringly pink t-shirts. As my sister and I passed them, we snuck a look at the t-shirts. To a one, each of them had "THIS IS WHAT A FEMINIST LOOKS LIKE" in big bold letters.
I tell you, I got a little verklempt.

Posted by: Stella at July 12, 2007 11:14 AM

Can't wait to see it! Your "review" sold me.

Posted by: Eric at July 12, 2007 11:20 AM

Who greenlights this shit??????? For the love of God, whoever gave this sick liitle man the money to make this movie needs to be, to quote the galatic president, caught and shot now.

Posted by: Caramello at July 12, 2007 11:21 AM

Thank you, I won't waste my time on this one. Bad enough that women around the world are trafficked and tortured as sex slaves, I don't need to see some Holywoodized b.s.

Posted by: Natalie at July 12, 2007 11:26 AM

What a bunch of whiny fucking robots! Oh, Pajiba says the movie is naughty, I won't see it, I don't have a mind of my own.

If he'd liked the movie, how many of you stupid fucks would have watched it and then proclaimed your undying love and admiration to the filmmakers for such a a brilliant piece of art?

Grow a fucking brain...

Thanks!

Posted by: Chris at July 12, 2007 11:35 AM

Aw Chris, you make it soo easy to verbally bitch slap you.

Posted by: Stella at July 12, 2007 11:45 AM

So easy that you didn't? Excellent.

Go fuck yourself...

Posted by: Chris at July 12, 2007 11:48 AM

I long for the day when all movies have a gaggle of empowered women sitting at a table made from recycled materials, discussing the inevitable death of the planet from man-made global warming, the inherent evils of capitalism, and shed a few tears over the lack of socialist healthcare. Now that's entertainment!

Posted by: Liberal_Agenda at July 12, 2007 11:57 AM

Hahaha ... Chris, believe it or not, if you hang around Pajiba for a while you will see plenty of posts from readers who disagree with the reviewer. The reason that doesn't happen too often is that most people who bother to read Pajiba reviews know that the reviewers have similar taste and values to their own and thus can accurately sum up the aspects of the movie that are important to those readers. We're here because we like the way they watch movies and think about them, and we appreciate them giving us a heads-up about a movie that might violate some of our shared standards. Honestly, why are you even on a movie review site if you don't believe it is possible to gauge the worth of a movie through a competent review?

For example, in case you haven't gathered that by, say, reading the comments, almost all of these readers feel torture porn like Captivity violates a standard - a film standard, a moral standard, etc. Dustin's summary of the ENTIRE MOVIE allows us to judge the plot without seeing the film itself, and clearly, we primarily feel that it is morally reprehensible and weak story-telling. Or do you think we're only against female debasement for male sexual pleasure because Dustin said so? Because I know if he posted saying it was really cool and hot, I'd just be disappointed in him. Fortunately, he hasn't disappointed me yet.

PS - Don't mean to sound as if I'm speaking for EVERYONE here.

Posted by: Claire at July 12, 2007 11:59 AM

It was a movie review.

Let me walk you through it:

Hmmm. I would like to see a movie this weekend, but there are so many choices. This one looks interesting but movies are expensive, so I'd like to find out if I'm going to be wasting my money. I'd better read some reviews.

I have read Dustin's reviews in the past and he seems to like many of the same films I do.

I wonder what he thinks of this film?

Oh.

But wait there's more. I'm online so now there is a forum for a really very interesting discussion of what films mean and their impact on and reflection of our culture.

Posted by: Henry at July 12, 2007 12:02 PM

Thanks Claire. I guess you can type faster than I can.

Posted by: Henry at July 12, 2007 12:04 PM

Liberal Agenda,

It's socialized medicine not socialist healthcare. I don't think anyone wants a healtcare system based on Stalinist Russia's.

Posted by: Jocelyn at July 12, 2007 12:08 PM

good god, reading the REVIEW made me sick to my stomach.

And as for the person who said this?

And don't blame Cuthbert - she has to pay the bills, too. Although really, it sounds like doing porn would have been less of an ego-buster than doing this film.

Forget that. I've got five words for Elisha.

"You want fries with that?"

Hell yes I'm going to blame her for taking that job. I'd blame any actress who degraded herself by voluntarily agreeing to a movie like this. I'd blame the actress, the other actors, the director, the editor, the producer. Anyone who willingly works on that kind of drek?

DESERVES THE BLAME.

Posted by: m at July 12, 2007 12:09 PM

If he'd liked the movie, how many of you stupid fucks would have watched it and then proclaimed your undying love and admiration to the filmmakers for such a a brilliant piece of art?

So if I agree with him, I have no brain?

Dustin, you are my zombie master.

Posted by: mswas at July 12, 2007 12:09 PM

Chris darlin', I was merely stating a fact. See subsequent posts for proof.

Posted by: Stella at July 12, 2007 12:11 PM

Dustin. Thank you. I won't watch torture porn anyway, but thanks to this review, I have convinced a few fans of the genre not to see this movie.

Chris, don't be contrary just to stir shit up. It's kinda pathetic.

Posted by: Theresa at July 12, 2007 12:24 PM

First of all I'm going to agree that the film must be terrible.
However, you are just another idiot internet film critic.
For once I would like one of you ignorant fucks to actually write something meaningful.
'this film fucking sucked' 'I hated this film'
You shit heads are never able to give a good reason why you don't like something.
It's all inane drivel.
What is obvious is that you don't know enough about film to review a movie fairly.
Do the world a favor and throw in the towel.
Your one of a thousand internet film reviewing fucksticks anyway.
Leave it to the people that actually know something about film Pajiba.
Because it's painfully clear that you don't know shit.

Posted by: Fuck You at July 12, 2007 12:38 PM

This movie is pure woman-hatred, from beginning to end. This blatant kind of hatred of an entire category of humans only rears its head when the targeted group is succeeding in its bid for equality.


Therefore, we're winning. This sexualized hatred is the last gasp of an obsolete mindset, desperate to hang on to the power it has already lost.

Posted by: elsworthy at July 12, 2007 12:39 PM

Thank you for the review. I think I'm going to print this up and give a copy to all my friends' stupid little brothers who want to see this move.

Posted by: Jill at July 12, 2007 12:40 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one who could see through the previews to the 'plot twist' and I'm glad I'm not the only one unnerved and disgusted by these kinds of films. No way will I go see this horrid pile of hateful, poorly-written crap.

Posted by: Aviana at July 12, 2007 12:45 PM

"It had me on the edge of my seat!" --Earl Dittman, Wireless Magazines

Hopefully, that means he was almost ready to leave throughout the entire movie. But, alas; probably not!

Absolutely no redeeming value!

Posted by: derekthered at July 12, 2007 12:49 PM

I agree with your points, and I think tasteful people ought to avoid this movie. But I have one important point to make:

Do not make a big deal of boycotting it! Didn't you learn anything from the fundies? Remember "The Last Temptation of Christ?" A boycott is exactly the publicity these directors want.

Posted by: Literacity at July 12, 2007 12:53 PM

I commented on this review yesterday, but I must comment again. Dustin, I want you to know that this review has inspired me and has been the smack in the head I've been needing for a long time.

As a sophomore in college, I'm, of course, broke. For a second job, I work for a company that throws parties in clubs. I have been a shot girl for the past couple of months (go ahead, laugh all you want), and I thought I actually enjoyed it. But I've always felt that I've been stuck in a rut, that I needed to be challenged a whole helluva lot more. This review has made me think more about us females and how often we are thought of as lesser than males, and has made me realize that this job is catered to males and pleasing them. You should see some of the outfits I've worn, none of which I would normally EVER wear in public. And for what? To make all these men happy? To play into some little fantasy they have that maybe this cute chick is easy and I can take her home with me later?

I'm not some fucking plaything for the scum that I typically see in the clubs (and believe me, they are scum. What kind of 35 year old man hangs out in a club and hits on 18 year olds?!) I refuse to continue degrading myself in order to get some drunkard's money. I'm putting in my two weeks notice today.

I want to thank you for helping me see the light, because no one else would.

Posted by: Alyssa at July 12, 2007 12:56 PM

Quick question: what's the deal with the automatic junk filter? I just tried to post something completely relevant, and got a message that my post was "shuffled off." Does that mean it'll ever appear?

Sorry for the derail.

Posted by: Literacity at July 12, 2007 12:56 PM

Big fat "Word!" to the bulk of this thread.

I guess the only thing left to say is:

DUSTIN FOR PRESIDENT.

Posted by: alanna at July 12, 2007 1:01 PM

By the way, I am a husband, a brother to a strong healthy sister, a mentor to younger women where I work, and I believe no means no). But -

According to one commentator, "This film is ACTIVELY telling women that if they go out alone at night, if they behave in an independant manner- THIS WILL HAPPEN TO THEM."

When you depict something, or even gratuitously display that same thing, does that OF COURSE means you are espousing the theme????

If the movie had shown her kidnapped while out with her boyfirend, then the message would have been different(?) as it would not have been designed to actively commiunicate that women should not be out alone at night leading independent lives? REALLY? Same gross film in my book.

Freud said "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." I think this is more like a disgusting foul Rorschact (sp?) into which people imprint there own political identity.

Were people right to be offended by Jar Jar Binks or Danny Davito's potrayal of the Penguin (Blacks and Jews respectively). Sure, if you wanna be offended, all you ahve to do is open your door. Is George Lucas excoriated for a racist? Nope. Seems like the knee jerk here is stronger because the torture and sexualization. And maybe deservedely so.

But I'd say Blacks and Jews have had a pretty tough road also.

If we follow the most extreme Catherine McKinnon wing here -

All pornography must be banned. To hell with the patricarchal 1st amendment. That supposed freedom is just a tool to oppress women. And until the Senate and House of Represetatives are 51 % female, we know the rule of law is a joke.

We must ban "To His Coy Mistress" Sick fucking poet. We must destroy all prints of The Rape of the Sabine women. If we supress the display of the impulse in "arts," maybe it will go away in reality.

(But to some, Madonna is "empowering" in flaunting her sexuality because its her choice?)

Hey, and maybe if we stop crime shows on TV, there will be no crime, like in the 1930s before TV.

Does art imitate life, or vice versa????

If women should be accorded some special protection in the arts because in reality they are sexual prey for a few demented souls (I believe the statistics from advocate groups that 1 in 2 women are subject to some form of sexual assault are massively exxagerated by a definition that includes "staring" or unwanted catcalls), then they are no equals under the law.

You cannot be equal and infantalized at the same time.

Posted by: Miguel at July 12, 2007 1:02 PM

Here's a basic lesson: Women constitute the overwhelming number of real-life victims of violence, sexual and otherwise, and overwhelmingly, the perpetrators are men. Therefore, it is reasonable to draw the conclusion that there is obviously an issue with the perception of women by men (not all, but some), which must be due to some kind of socialisation process....

Women do NOT "constitute the overwhelming number of real-life victims of violence." According to the Dept. of Justice, men experience higher victimization rates for all types of violent crime except rape/sexual assault. Which, notably, was not one of the crimes perpetrated on the victim in this movie.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict_v.htm#gender

Posted by: The Comish (sic) at July 12, 2007 1:24 PM

L2:
Here's a basic lesson: Women constitute the overwhelming number of real-life victims of violence, sexual and otherwise, and overwhelmingly, the perpetrators are men. Therefore, it is reasonable to draw the conclusion that there is obviously an issue with the perception of women by men (not all, but some), which must be due to some kind of socialisation process

Women do NOT "constitute the overwhelming number of real-life victims of violence." According to the Dept. of Justice, men experience higher victimization rates for all types of violent crimes except rape/sexual assault. Which, notably, was not one of the crimes perpetrated on the victim in this movie. (I had to delete the link to the DOJ website because my message gets caught up in the spam filter. You'll have to do a google search.)

Posted by: The Comish (sic) at July 12, 2007 1:27 PM

A bunch of fucking cry babies you people are. Why give a shitty movie credence by going on and on about misogyny and female hatred and all this other PC crap. You people wouldn't know misogyny if it came on your face. And the reviewer came across as some sort of raving causehead desperately trying to ingratiate himself with the hairy-pitted feminists that apparently frequent this site. It's an unimportant, commercial film that's only goal is to make money. Save your hatred for something more important, or don't. Continue your masterbatory bitchfest and feign superiority, I don't care. I gave up on Pajiba after I saw 1408; that was the most tepid, frightless piece of shit I've ever sat through, and the reviewer practically came all over himself while talking it up.

Posted by: mutterhals at July 12, 2007 1:28 PM

Agree with Stella.

With Claire - I was asking what made THIS film worse than other torture flicks, e.g., Hostel or Saw apparently, or other sexualized women in danger/captivity flicks, e.g., Caged Heat. Of your list, #s 1, 2, 3 and 7 apply to all torture films. #s 4, 5, and 6, speak specifically to gender and power.

I knew the handcuff thing was not exactly on topic. Just an analogy to show that many people enjoy power/lack of control issues in their healthy sexuality. Its bloody common. Most psychologist and psychaitrists will tell you that there is almost always a factor of power and near violence in the act of coitus. And a sociobiologist will tell you its common in mammals.

Is sadism really worse when a man does it? (Because any depiction of it acts to reinforce the historical subjegation of women?) Not sure we should reject any art if it allegedly reinforces a historical "violation").

Ever see adverts for Dominatrix/Mistress? Plenty of men pay to be dominated, and even have pain inflicted. Not my cup of tea, and I would not pay to see it done, but...

Homo sum: humani nil a me alienum puto.

Posted by: Miguel at July 12, 2007 1:37 PM

Agree with Stella.

With Claire - I was asking what made THIS film worse than other torture flicks, e.g., Hostel or Saw apparently, or other sexualized women in danger/captivity flicks, e.g., Caged Heat. Of your list, #s 1, 2, 3 and 7 apply to all torture films. #s 4, 5, and 6, speak specifically to gender and power.

I knew the handcuff thing was not exactly on topic. Just an analogy to show that many people enjoy power/lack of control issues in their healthy sexuality. Its bloody common. Most psychologist and psychaitrists will tell you that there is almost always a factor of power and near violence in the act of coitus. And a sociobiologist will tell you its common in mammals.

Is sadism really worse when a man does it? (Because any depiction of it acts to reinforce the historical subjegation of women?) Not sure we should reject any art if it allegedly reinforces a historical "violation").

Ever see adverts for Dominatrix/Mistress? Plenty of men pay to be dominated, and even have pain inflicted. Not my cup of tea, and I would not pay to see it done, but...

Homo sum: humani nil a me alienum puto.

Seems like a lot of critics want to injure the director/screenwriter, or attack their sexuality. Kinda ironic?

Posted by: Miguel at July 12, 2007 1:38 PM

No kidding.
The torture genre has never ever once bequeathed me a minute of entertainment, though I have given it a try. All the Saw movies are an interminable bore and Hostel made me tired.
And despite having girl-parts and liking to do it with boys, I don't mind misogyny in movies for the most part. I mean, I subsist on a diet of giallo films, gin, and Camel Lights. But I do mind tackiness. And Captivity sounds very very tacky.

Posted by: Amanda at July 12, 2007 1:39 PM

I don't think there is anything I could come up with to say that hasn't already been said. Almost certainly said better than I could have managed. I was disgusted with this movie from the trailer alone, and your review has only confirmed what I feared.
However, I would point out that I find it grating/troubling that many of you decrying this film are the same people that only a few reviews ago were happily talking about beating the shit out of little kids. For the terrible crime of being "creepy". I have to wonder where the line of acceptable violence is drawn, what exactly is the thinking behind one act of violence being wrong and horrid, and the other being just fine and even funny?
I'm not trying to be a shit stirrer or detract from the point made in this review and the comments. I agree that this is misogyny, this is torture porn and it's disgusting. However, I was pretty equally disgusted by the comments over at the Joshua review about beating children or even killing them.

Posted by: Anne at July 12, 2007 1:41 PM

TK:
If the majority of offenses (in this case, cinematic ones), are against women, then... well, the fucking shoe fits.

But that's my point. First of all, the majority of "cinematic offenses" aren't against women. How many women were tortured/killed in the Lethal Weapon series, Reservoir Dogs, Saving Private Ryan, and Braveheart? I can think of 2 (Mel Gibson's girlfriend in Lethal Weapon and his wife in Braveheart). Now how many men were tortured/killed in those movies? Dozens? Hundreds? So why haven't we seen any articles decrying the bias against men in movies?

It's because society views men like Storm Troopers or Ogres (in Lord of the Rings). We're bullet fodder. It's our job to die to protect the women. We're programmed to notice less when men suffer violence than when women do. That's the reason that throughout history, most soldiers have been men.

And that's the second reason the argument is silly. These movies often feature women because it's more emotionally effective. It takes advantage of our sociological programming. Just as the bad guys will so often kidnap a child - because we naturally have a desire to protect children - these movies feature women as victims because they're more helpless, more innocent, and we're more likely to care if they are hurt or die. For as long as there's been fiction, men have played the role of savior and women have played the role of victim for this exact reason: because we feel more of a need to protect women.

And that's the third reason the argument is silly. These movies are supposedly misogynistic because they feature women as victims. But that impulse of disgust you feel isn't because you view women as equals, but because you see women as helpless and in need of protection. It's the same argument that some people make against pornography: It's harmful and degrading to women, and so we men won't allow women to participate in it even if they want to do so. And that's bullshit.

Again, I think these movies are disgusting, and I wouldn't buy a ticket to one unless it came with a chance to punch the director in the face. But Elisha Cuthbert doesn't seem to think she needs protection. I don't agree with her decision, but it's her decision to make, and I respect that.

Posted by: The Comish (sic) at July 12, 2007 1:41 PM

Hmmm...open discourse of a very real and disturbing sociological trend = "masterbatory bitchfest and feign[ed] superiority"? Perhaps from the viewpoint of the minority side of a debate. Honestly, though, you seems to be extremely (and oddly) upset over what is really nothing more that a forum of like minded people expressing their disgust with an increasingly twisted filme genre. Perhaps you need more calcium in your diet?

Posted by: pinkcheese at July 12, 2007 1:45 PM

Considering the height of the pedistal he's standing on, most of you must have some really long necks to get so much ass kissing in.

"The average victim of violent acts is a male attacked by another male (Ringel, 1997)."

I'm sure you weren't aware of this. So the next time a movie comes out showing graphic male on male violence, I'll expect the same type of scathing review.

Posted by: high and mighty at July 12, 2007 1:52 PM

I'd like to respond to a lot more things on here, but I'm at work. I couldn't let this pass, though.

Comish,
There is a crucial difference between torture and murder of men in films and of the same of women, which is the sexualization. Torture porn is used to give sexual pleasure to men who enjoy watching women being brutally tortured or sexually assaulted. These films aren't marketed towards people who see women as weak things to be protected OR towards people who see them as equals, but towards people who consider them objects deserving of pain. This is NOT to say that I like gratuitous violence of any kind - I despise torture films in general, as well as all films that involve such unnecessary and sadistic violence.

Secondly, there is more at stake for women here than one girl's right to make cheap bucks off exploiting this sick fantasy. The impulse of disgust I feel is because women are PORTRAYED as weak people who need protection to survive - and who are valued only when they are not protected, when they are brutally tortured and exploited. It reinforces the stereotypical image of women as weak and subject to the sexual desires of men. Furthermore, it PANDERS to and ENCOURAGES that desire. They don't make these films to raise awareness of sexual crime, they make them to titillate some guys who think girls getting sexually and physically abused is hot and pleasurable. They're reinforcing an image of sexual pleasure that can cause direct harm to women - who are in fact the victims of most sexual violence. And that is HARMFUL.

Posted by: Claire at July 12, 2007 2:00 PM

I find this all very sad. During the commentary for "The Killing Fields," Joffe says that Haing S. Ngor (who played Dith Pran) told him that he wasn't doing justice to how horrible conditions really were (and he would know). Joffe told him he probably couldn't get away with showing that level of senseless violence, even though it had actually happened, and its inclusion could be justified by its being based on real life. Joffe chose to be subtle about the devastation.

What happened? (Don't answer this, it's rhetorical)

Thanks Dustin.

Posted by: Darcy at July 12, 2007 2:19 PM

Wow, mutterhead or whatever your name is. To use the word "came" on something twice in one comment and the term "hairy-pitted feminists" really gives credence to your point. Learn how to spell masturbatory.

Posted by: kate at July 12, 2007 2:36 PM

Mutterhals: If you hate this site so much then why are you wasting your time reading reviews and posting comments on it.

Also, the characterization of feminists as "hairy-pitted" is the same sexism that we are all railing against and if sexism exists in the art then it is reasonable (in fact, rational) to assume that it exists in the wider culture.

You truly make me afraid to have children someday.

Posted by: Shan at July 12, 2007 2:44 PM

So, kate, I guess he means that "hairy-pitted feminists" are men, right?

"I gave up on Pajiba after I saw 1408; that was the most tepid, frightless piece of shit I've ever sat through, and the reviewer practically came all over himself while talking it up."

Ok, then. Let us hairy-pitted, liberal nazi, man haters go about our business. Bu-bye.

Posted by: nexus 6 at July 12, 2007 2:58 PM

I gave up on Pajiba after I saw 1408

Then why are you still here? Oh, that's right, because you think being an insulting dolt is amusing. Anyway, on to the actual, intelligent comments...

Comish - I think that the fundamental difference between the movies you listed (Lethal Weapon, etc), besides the fact that those are popcorn action movies, is that they are not movies ABOUT torture. And this is. It is the central plot. Without it, there is no movie. It is a torture movie. And this particular genre seems to define itself by having the victim portrayed by women. That is the big difference between, say, Die Hard, and I Spit On Your Grave.

I think the arguments you make about women as helpless victim and men as the protector are good arguments. But: And that's the second reason the argument is silly. These movies often feature women because it's more emotionally effective. I'm not sure what your point is... because it's emotionally effective, and because historically and sociologically there is a male urge to protect women, we shouldn't be offended by the movie? I don't get that.

Yes, the bulk of violence is man on man. But the way I see it is that violence against women specifically because they are women is a very real and very prevalent problem in this country, and in the world, and is distinct from other crimes. This movie seeks to make a profit on that, and in fact sensationalize it. That is where the sexism comes in.

Anyway. I'm always happy to debate, and I'm glad we're keeping it civil. Unlike some of the other jackasses around here.

Posted by: TK at July 12, 2007 3:02 PM

Anne, as one of the posters from the "Beat your kids" segment, let me explain why my position there is no different from my position here.

It's about power and who wields it.

I support beating the crap out of a kid that kills his dog. The dog is not consciously aware that the human he trusts is about to kill it.
The family dog is in a position of powerlessness and therefore elicits feelings of protectiveness from me.

What grates here is the perpetuation of the stereotype of women as weak, sexual beings.

In both cases, the less-empowered character gets the sympathy.

Were the situation reversed and an adult were to harm a child, I'd be all for making him slice off his testicles and watching him eat before ordering him to die.

Posted by: Stella at July 12, 2007 3:13 PM

Thank you Dustin for giving such a well though out and appropriate social statement in the form of a review. The voice in this review is the reason I keep coming back to Pajiba and trust the opinions and recommendations of all the Pajiba contributors.

Keep fighting the good fight.

Posted by: Matt at July 12, 2007 3:18 PM

Wow, Roland Joffe directed The Killing Fields. And I just spent three months in Cambodia. I saw the movie and didn't think it did justice to the political situation, pretty much the same way no movie can do justice to it, or the Holocaust, or rape, or you know, reality. Movies are fake. They can't do justice to reality.
So, check it out. I'm a chick, consider myself a feminist, shave my armpits. I fucking love horror movies. And comics. I love gore. My big complaint with Saw was that it moved too quickly through all the interesting gory set ups. And the lame ending and acting, but the acting was bad in Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and I totally love that movie. So what makes this movie different? I would say, this: now do you think it's safe to go out alone tonight? I mean, get real people, sexualizing anyone dying isn't new. Watch some Dario Argento. And fair enough, the sex death connection is a theme of horror. But that line just pisses me off. No, I don't think it's safe to walk alone at night. Hey, it's dark out here in the nice old suberbs and I can't go to sleep and I'd like a beer but because my friend got attacked on the street the other night, I think it would be stupid to go. You think I'm whining? Try living with actually not being able to walk around at night without taking a real risk as your reality. You will complain so fast. Not to mention how fast you will complain if your ass gets raped. I know men are victims of crimes, but there's no comparative tag line you could stick on a movie that would make a guy think: I KNOW, jackass. I know can't walk around in Iraq alone.
Any city, any suburb. Different if you're a girl. So yeah, other groups have got it bad too, but that doesn't mean that what women have to complain about isn't reasonable. The difference between women and minority groups is, we aren't a minority, and people think it's silly when you complain. And if a movie came out whose ad campaign was kind of capitalizing on the fears of a minority group, all hell would break out, and people wouldn't tell them to shave their armpits. And let's put this in the context of the reaction to movies like Monster and Hard Candy, where many critics' main problem was that the director seemed to have too much sympathy with the female characters' actions.
I guess what I'm saying is I'm quite all right with lots of things, being a pretty hardcore horror movie fan, but when you're telling America, which is torn between religious elements saying sex is terrible and bad and women are a temptation to turn your eyes away from, and mainstream society if trying to titillate you, and your movie is about making some girl's torture out to be sexy and artfully-smeared-mascarariffic as possible, maybe you shouldn't stick a finger in the face of all the girls who aren't going to see this movie proclaiming: we have made rape and torture totally palatable to all the confused and frustrated males out there, RUN HOME WHILE YOU CAN, bitches! Better not have your periods while we rape you, or we'll make you feel like unfuckable hags and call you unshaved feminists whose sole interests comprise global warming and Michael Moore documentaries.

Posted by: Pheegs at July 12, 2007 4:28 PM

What a ghey piece of trash. (the movie, not you Mr. Rowles)

Posted by: dmo at July 12, 2007 4:31 PM

VERMILLION-- As I said before, "it doesn't matter that you take the time to point out in your review that you took the add without seeing the movie..." At least read my post before you knock it. You just cant take such a HIGH moral stance on an issue and not back it up with your actions. Its one thing to think the movie is garbage, but its quite another thing if Dustin thinks the movie is 1) morally repugnant and 2) that no one should see the movie on those grounds. Having to pay the bills is no excuse and a cop out unless he can tell me that he accepts EVERY add that comes in. He does have editorial control over which adds appear in his publication. Would he accept the add that says the Jewish Holocaust never happened? Of course not. Sounds a lot like the politician who says they only accept money from pornographers in order to get elected and fight porno. Yah, right. Elisha Cuthbert and the producers Dustin wants to eviscerate cant play the "just paying the bills" card and neither can Dustin. To his credit, he did seem to carefully ponder this issue, but he made the wrong decision.

Posted by: JP at July 12, 2007 4:31 PM

I posted the truth behind this film when the review first went up, and all of you people are so obsessed with jumping down the throats of everyone listed in this review that you ignore where the problem really lies.

At this point, I do intend to see this film in theaters because of the amount of garbage the entire production company went through. A billboard resulted in the first ever incidence of the MPAA actively punishing a film before it even went before the rating board. As a fan of film, I don't think it is fair to stand idly by and watch the MPAA, run by those who are financially able to meet their membership requirements in the millions of dollars every year, become mad with power and punish a film they had not even seen with sanctions and fines based on an advertisement. Did you know that Regal refuses to play this film because of threatened action by the National Organization of Women even after the film received an R rating with minimal edits? Did you know that the MPAA has only approved one advertisement for the film with moving images? And won't even let the production team mention that people need to check their local listings because Regal banned the film? Because apparently everyone else in the world of media but the actual production company has full right to mention that the film faced problems with the MPAA except the people behind the distribution and bastardization of the film itself.

I don't know if I will enjoy this film or not. I would hope that it would disgust me to the point that when I write a review for it this weekend and post it up all over the internet (through user driven content sites Associated Content and Helium among many others) that I can adequately express in a fair manner why this is not a good film or what exactly is wrong with it.

I'm not big on the whole "See a film before you can have an opinion", but the amount of vitriol being tossed out at 4 people (the director, the screenwriters, and the star) who didn't even have the opportunity to make the final creative decisions in a film that wasn't even supposed to be close to torture porn is more disgusting than all the roofie tossing, acid bathing, dick biting horror you can toss at me. Learn the truth behind a scenario like this before claiming that people in real life need to be beaten, abused, raped, confined, or tortured in like manner.

If you really want to vent your disgust, please get in contact with Courtney Solomon, the man who told the creative team behind the film that he would only distribute their psychological thriller if they turned it into a torture porn movie. The link in this post is not my own, but the message board community for his precious After Dark Horror Fest. Vent there and let him really hear the message.

Posted by: Robert at July 12, 2007 4:43 PM

So, JP, your solution is that he either remove the adstrip completely and alienate the rest of the advertisers, thereby jeopardizing the site's continued livelihood? Or should they shut down the site altogether? Because, as mentioned, he accepted it prior to seeing the movie, and now those are the ONLY two options.

So, which should he choose? Hmmm? What would you do, in your eminent, sanctimonious wisdom, have done?

Posted by: TK at July 12, 2007 4:44 PM

i want to thank you for revealing the reveal because it confirmed the dead on accuracy of my not-difficult-to-predict guess i made to my cine-companion while seeing the trailer pre-1408: "he's so obviously the killer."

now if i can just convince her to go on a second date, i can tell her "i told you so" over some organ frappuccinos. mmmmm, organs.

Posted by: lennyx at July 12, 2007 4:57 PM

Chris:

Thanks for being one of the first dolts today to make the comment that usually gets made by dolts here, i.e., "guhhh, elitist Pajibans slamming movies you haven't even seen, just going along with the reviewer."

Are you, um, retarded, Chris? (Sorry in advance to PC'ers who don't like that word, but Chris is apparently retarded.) One reads reviews to decide whether to see something. If one could only comment after seeing it, then one could never have a discussion about something horrifyingly terrible without seeing it, which would defeat one of the primary points of reviews. And I don't feel like wasting my time with that.

I don't really feel like wasting my time with you either, dipshit, but enough morons show up and make the same inane comment that I thought if I tried to say it S-L-O-W for you, you might get it. I can't wait for your witty comeback, since your commentary to this point has been so sharp.

Also, for being a dick to others here, I'll do what Stella was too classy to do: Bitch-slap your stupid ass. Go crawl back into your trailer-park twin bed with your sister and resume whatever is you do between corn-nut feedings and WWF marathons. Fuckwit.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at July 12, 2007 5:09 PM

TK. I would take the add down, did I not make that clear enough for you. I have done the equivalent in my profession and would not hesitate to do it again. By the way, his message would be that much stronger if he didn't threaten to take the add down but has some balls and actually went through with it. He should advise the advertiser that although he appreaciates its business and looks forward to working with them in the future, he cannot in good conscious continue to run an add for a movie that he finds reprehensible. Otherwise, this whole "we need the money to fight the good fight" argument is complete bullshit. Fuck it. I'm going to Wal-Mart. Why should I make the sacrifice when going elsewhere costs ME more money?

Posted by: JP at July 12, 2007 5:12 PM

Is it upsetting that I figured out the BIG TWIST (the male captive with her was really her captor) from the trailer?

Unfortunately, this movie probably won't be the last banal, plotless, insipid torture porn movie released.

There's a reason Hitchcock's films are considered classics: they're more often than not psychologically terrifying without making the viewer watch something as vicious as human torture (nay, female torture) for the sake of entertainment.

Posted by: Renee at July 12, 2007 5:32 PM

Robert, I understand what you're saying about the circumstances surrounding this production. However, if I were an artist (as film-makers most certainly are) and I was told that I could create a piece of art that I was as emotionally invested in as you are saying these people were, but in order to do so, I would have to warp it into someone else's vision - something hideously offensive and all but unrelated to my original idea - I would tell them, "Hell No! Now I'm off to fill out an application at McDonalds."

Plenty of people in Hollywood back out of film projects for various reasons every day. If it was really that important to them, they wouldn't have sold out. So, maybe this exercise in depravity wasn't what they wanted to do in the begining, but they sold out, did what they were told, and for that alone they deserve every single ounce of vitriol being spewed at them by a disgusted public.

Posted by: pinkcheese at July 12, 2007 5:57 PM

I think I love you Dustin.

Posted by: Gaby at July 12, 2007 6:12 PM

Part of what disturbs me about this movie is that its release occurs about three months after the killing of Dua Khalil, a 17-year-old Iraqi woman, in an "honor killing" that was captured on a phone and released on the internet. Joss Whedon first addressed it on his blog, and after reading the CNN story (here's the link: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/18/iraq.honorkilling/index.html), I was even more horrified after reading this review. I am a feminist (though NOT a hairy-pitted one) and I'm stunned and horrified that so many women around the world are killed for various "reasons." There is no reason to let it spill into our entertainment.

Oh, and in the action flicks that I've seen, I've yet to witness the hero forcing his victims to drink an organ smoothie.

Posted by: bonnie at July 12, 2007 6:25 PM

Part of what disturbs me about this movie is that its release occurs about three months after the killing of Dua Khalil, a 17-year-old Iraqi woman, in an "honor killing" that was captured on a phone and released on the internet. Joss Whedon first addressed it on his blog, and after reading the CNN story I was even more horrified after reading this review. I am a feminist (though NOT a hairy-pitted one) and I'm stunned and horrified that so many women around the world are killed for various "reasons." There is no reason to let it spill into our entertainment.

Oh, and in the action flicks that I've seen, I've yet to witness the hero forcing his victims to drink an organ smoothie.

Posted by: bonnie at July 12, 2007 6:25 PM

To any other SF geeks out there (if any...):

Doesn't this remind you a little of the nebula award winning novelette "The Screwfly Solution" by Alice Sheldon?

Obviously not the movie itself, but it strikes me that a society that can produce and tolerate a movie like that belongs in that story, not in our world.

If anyone's interested Wikipedia have a link to the entire story online.

Posted by: Brandon at July 12, 2007 6:49 PM

If it's so bad, why do you advertise it on your website? That's kinda tacky.....

Posted by: Ravynn at July 12, 2007 6:51 PM

Thank you for taking one for the team Dustin so we don't ever have to see this garbage. Meanwhile, talented filmmkares with something meaningful to say get snubbed by the same studios that produce crap like this...This is why I prefer public programming.

Posted by: A.Lo at July 12, 2007 7:07 PM

Regardless of how disgusting this film sounds, and I surely wouldnt go and see it, I dont see the big deal with it. If you dont like torture porn, heres an idea, dont watch it! Its really pretty simple, and im really tired of hearing about how this and that is so morally wrong. Morals are in the eye of the beholder, if some sick fuck wants to go see this movie then he/she(not likely) should go do so. Thats why this is America is it not?

Posted by: Sacrament at July 12, 2007 7:09 PM

"Plenty of people in Hollywood back out of film projects for various reasons every day. If it was really that important to them, they wouldn't have sold out. So, maybe this exercise in depravity wasn't what they wanted to do in the begining, but they sold out, did what they were told, and for that alone they deserve every single ounce of vitriol being spewed at them by a disgusted public."

I totally get what you are saying, I just think that some of this hatred should be saved for Courtney Solomon. Not that that absolves the others of wrongdoing, just that we should be spreading the hate a bit more.

As in, Courtney Solomon is a dick. He took an original idea (again) and rammed it straight into the ground (again), offending everyone in the process (again). And then he'll gladly take credit for it all in interviews but not put his name in the credits and all over the promotional materials? That's cowardly.

Posted by: Robert at July 12, 2007 7:15 PM

finally. a sensible movie critic that will actually tell the truth. albeit the truth plus a whole mess of F-bombs. but thank you, as a woman i feel better knowing that at least one male on this planet doesn't enjoy this kind of nonsense!!!

Posted by: Lauren at July 12, 2007 7:30 PM

I detest torture porn, so there was never any chance of me seeing this movie. I don't find violence entertaining, and I never have. I even hated Nightmare on Elm Street.

(Inexplicably, I love war films. Not for the violence, I suppose, but for the inevitable humanity that springs from them.)

I read the first part of your review planning to argue misogyny with you, because frankly, I find torture porn featuring women far less offensive, misogynistically (well, you know) speaking, than films that depict women as a) simpering fools without a thought in their heads other than marriage and children; b) heartless cunts hellbent on destroying anything that crosses their path as they climb the corporate ladder; c) clueless damsels in distress who are, inevitably, saved by a Big Strong Man. And so forth. You get the idea. There are a million ways in which filmmakers fail to give women a third dimension.

And unfortunately, whenever a woman in a film is depicted as being a real live breathing human being with layers and depth, then the MEN in the film are automatically and nearly without fail painted as evil, cruel bastards. (Thelma and Louise springs immediately to mind.)

That's the kind of misogyny that really fucking pisses me off. Women are usually brainless and weak - but if they aren't, you'd better believe the men around them are.

It seems to me that most people in our society, male AND fmale, can't imagine a strong, intelligent woman standing toe-to-toe with a similarly strong, intelligent man.

This Captivity, this kind of shit is just foolishness, in my opinion. It's irrelevant.

Anyway, so then I read the comments and saw Kevin's remark, wherein he described his friend's brother being all over the idea of this movie because it's a hot chick getting tortured, and it occurred to me that you might have something with your theory.

Still, I remain unconvinced. My opinion is that men like Joe Francis and Dov Charney do a much larger disservice to the female gender than do a thousand films like Captivity. Captivity is just a hot girl getting tortured. It's obvious, and it is disposable.

But "Girls Gone Wild!" and American Apparel advertisements and Fergie videos and the Starter Wife and Cosmopolitan magazine and on and on, those things are much more insidious, because they're much more subtle. They're nearly invisible. Everyone is too focused on the bully on the playground to pay them much attention.

So Captivity doesn't repulse me based on its childish "misogyny"; it repulses me based on the fact that people inflicting pain on other people - regardless of their gender - does not get me off.

(I hope this made some sort of sense; I'm trying to get this out there before I leave work for the day, so you know. Bear that in mind.)

Posted by: juliagulia at July 12, 2007 7:47 PM

I'm so in love with Amanda. If you dump the camel lights I"ll marry you.

Posted by: gus hanson at July 12, 2007 7:55 PM

thank you, thank you so very much for being a male voice of reason about this depraved and disgusting genre.

Posted by: Catherine at July 12, 2007 8:50 PM

Thanks for the review. I've only read about the film and seen previews, but you summed up my thoughts exactly. FUCK TORTURE PORN. I knew a few cocksuckers in high school that joked about "snuff porn" and they're the types of cunts that would get off on this movie. I really do hope the writers, directors, producers, actors, and actresses in this movie get fucking sodomized to death. FUCKING DIE ELISHA (she's the only shitbag associated with this film that I know by name).

Posted by: Tuco at July 12, 2007 9:21 PM

"A bunch of fucking cry babies you people are."

I don't think Yoda likes us.

Brandon - I was also thinking about The Screwfly Solution in the same light. It was a truly disturbing short story. I recommend skipping the ham-handed "Masters of Horror" adaptation of it though, unless people have a burning desire to see Jason Priestley's pubes.

Posted by: Craig at July 12, 2007 9:39 PM

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I had no intention of ever seeing this movie, but I really needed a reminder that there are men out there who hate this misogynistic torture porn crap. I heart you all. Especially Dustin. Add me to the list of groupies!

Posted by: Alyssa at July 12, 2007 10:37 PM

thanks, dustin.

from a mom and wife AND a true horror movie fan that was a f-ing awesome review.

Posted by: joey at July 12, 2007 10:56 PM

A-fucking-MEN!

Posted by: jar at July 12, 2007 11:00 PM

Matt: Pulp Fiction did not dedicate an hour and a half to the sexual torture of men by other men... try again.

Posted by: Sarah at July 12, 2007 11:02 PM

I hate torture porn/ I didn't like Hostel or Saw and was not even considering seeing any of the follow ups. I think this kind of subject matter is less than tasteful... I will, however, see this movie. Why? Larry Cohen. That's why. He's the screenwriter and director of "It's Alive!", "God Told Me To", "Q", "The Stuff", "The Ambulance" and many other quirky, undefinible features. He co-wrote this screenplay, so there has to be something to it.

BTW, your review smacks of the same critical hypocracy that Roger Ebert had for "I Spit On Your Grave" back in the old "Sneak Previews" days.

Posted by: Terry at July 12, 2007 11:35 PM

JP: I read your post, all of them, and you still have yet to say more than "Take down the add".

First, there is one goddamn 'd' in ad or advertisement.

Second, it is not just one advertiser being affected here, but all of those stuck in the sides. It isn't just an ethical issue; it is a technical one. Those ads are coded together. It takes time to put them in and it takes time to remove them. As Dustin said, in order for him to get rid of it now, he would have to either dump the ads (pretty much all of those on the side where the Captivity ad is located) or shut down the site while he did maintenance.

You conveniently gloss over the part where he says advertisers (as in plural) and insist that he is being hypocritical for not bringing the entire damn site to a full stop. Maybe it is just me, but that doesn't seem very logical.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 13, 2007 12:11 AM

Ugh. Hate this kind of film. Kudos to you.

Posted by: Phillip Arthur at July 13, 2007 12:42 AM

All of the obvious sick shit about this film has been dissected (no pun intended) in so many articulate, thoughtful ways (Chris, mutterhals, et al excepted), but one of the most disturbing aspects of all this is that this excrement used to be underground; now it's mainstream. What does that say about the degradation of our society?

Posted by: Grace at July 13, 2007 1:08 AM

Vermillion: I read all your posts too, and you still haven't said more than "Keep the ad." Keep the ad because we cant risk losing Pajiba. wawawa. Keep the ad because its too tough to take it down. wawawa. Pathetic. (Oh, and thanks for the spelling lesson you pretentious prick). Anyway, I found it funny that the guy who was PISSED THE FUCK OFF really showed those movie jerkoffs where to stick it and ... well, he kept the ad up. I am giving him a pass because I just read he had a baby, so I am going to assume his vitriol ran out of steam upon the sight of his new child. But by keeping the add (sic) up Pajiba has acquiesced to being a cog in the masochistic machine. Anyway, I've said my peace on the matter. Enjoy the movie. I would go see it, but apparently I have to go report to Remedial English before I can post again.

Posted by: JP at July 13, 2007 1:53 AM

Late to the party but WOW - spectacular review. It should be mandatory reading in high school.

The comments here are really reassuring, too (hi all, new reader). Nice to know so many intelligent, decent people are out there.

Does anyone remember the movie "Grand Canyon"? This all reminds me of Steve Martin's character - the slimeball director. Not even a violent brush with death truly redeemed his drive to pump out shit movies to get your cash.

Sigh.

Posted by: Ace Tomato at July 13, 2007 2:11 AM

The comish: "But that impulse of disgust you feel isn't because you view women as equals, but because you see women as helpless and in need of protection."

I think your choice of words betrays you. You don't see women as equals, but as helpless and in need of protection.

Posted by: RH at July 13, 2007 2:43 AM

Face it. Solomon hates film. Solomon hates the audience. In Captivity, he found the perfect movie to get across how much he hates the movie-going public. He's the captor, the audience is Elisha.

Posted by: Rachel at July 13, 2007 3:05 AM

Bless whoever posted the Earl Dittman quote. If you need a counterpoint to whatever the worst movie ever made at the moment is, you can count on Earl. It's sad - I know Earl and he's a nice guy...so nice, he never saw a movie he didn't not-just-like-but-LUUUUVVVV...all to make sure he continues to get invited to cover the studio junkets.

Earl's a very, very, very large man, so literally ANY movie could legitimately have him on the edge of his seat.

Sadly, I also know Elisha and she's convinced herself that this piece of cinematic excrement somehow has merit. Here's what she said to me: "I'm not really one to be comfortable watching films like that. But to make 'em is a whole lot of fun!"

Then I asked her about being friends with Paris Hilton and she literally ran away.

Posted by: Agent Orange at July 13, 2007 3:55 AM

Dustin,

Ever since you included Cinderella Man and Mr. and Ms Smith on your 10 best list for 2005, I've always been a little suspicious of your reviews. If i remember correctly you also excluded Brokeback Mountain. With review you have totally redeemed yourself. I want to paste this review along the halls in my college. Bravo

Posted by: Piato at July 13, 2007 7:05 AM

Don't agree with the axes and pitchforks censorship mentality that's taken hold around here. Truth is the market will give this piece of cinematic excrement exactly what it's due. IT will fail, horribly.

Oh, and I agree with the second poster, Elisha Cuthberth is another example of today's crop of actors. All fluff, ZERO substance, can't act her way out of a paper bag.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 13, 2007 7:11 AM

Dustin you are my hero. That is all. Keep up the good work so I don't ever have to watch any of this bullshit

Posted by: JIM at July 13, 2007 7:21 AM

You know, I've never objected to the "torture porn" genre because I grew up on horror films and splatter movies and never saw them as anything more than exercises in "okay, go grab the plaster and latex and let's see how we can fuck somebody up with a chainsaw!" special effects. Sure, there was always the whole "the girl who doesn't have sex will live" thing going on, but horror movies are always about deep, icky, primal fear that's as rooted in our heads as the sex drive so it always made sense to keep everything on an adolescent level. So you can imagine my surprise when I saw the "leaked" footage from "Hostel 2" where Heather Matarrazzo gets killed and actually found myself offended... and now this. Don't get me wrong. I love a good zombie rampage or exploding head or chainsaw slaughter, but when did we get so obsessed with *suffering*? I don't get it. I don't understand it. I don't want to see it. What the hell's wrong with me? Am I growing up? Between this and the really fucked up "slap her and gag her" porn that's starting to creep into the mainstream I'm really starting to worry about the world. I worry for the future...

Posted by: The Anomalous Coward at July 13, 2007 10:19 AM

JP: Trust me, I am usually the last person to tell anyone about spelling errors. But that particular one, repeated over and over, was just annoying. If that makes me a pretentious prick, I can live with that. And considering all your talk, you should know about pretentious pricks.

It seems that you are not really all that fond of the site, if you are so gung-ho about the wanting to shut down for want of a lousy ad. If you are a fan, it surprises me your willingness to put so many people out just to satisfy a wrong that will go away on its own. This is not a grave injustice that needs a sacrificial lamb. It is an ad for a really stupid movie. Maybe it is wrong for me to care about the site itself more than an ad that I never bothered to look at in the first place, but that is how I felt. So sorry to offend.

I never said "Keep the ad." I said that it was wrong for folks to insult Dustin's integrity when he was in a tight spot, and to demand immediate action that he could not perform. I would be quite happy when he does get rid of it, but I can see how he could not do so right away.

Not once did you give him any options besides trashing the site as some grand statement. Yet, if you think about it, what would that accomplish? Would that cause the people wanting to see this movie change their minds? No, because they would just see a missing web page, or a page saying how this guy hated a movie so much he shut down his own site rather than promote it. They would consider it, then go to the myriads of other sites to find out what all the hoopla was about, giving this movie even more attention than a half-hidden ad that could easily be blocked by your browser.

Would it make the promoters of this movie change their ways? No, that would be dependent on the box office numbers, and with no review up to possibly influence decision making, Dustin's effect on that aspect would be considerably less, don't you think?

And why the low blow of assuming I wish to see this claptrap? Did I wound you that much by pointing out your misspelled word? I do so apologize. I didn't know that I was insulting a Scripps National Spelling Bee Champion.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 13, 2007 10:50 AM

Excellent point bruised&spongey. Thank you for bringing that to our attention. And you're not old, you can't be, I just turned 34.

Posted by: anniescam at July 13, 2007 10:53 AM

Censorship? This doesn't come close. (And the axes and pitchforks were part of the "Hue and Cry" of vigilante "justice" usually permissible for non-speech related offenses.) Censorship is government imposed and enforced banning of speech. What we have here is the First Amendment in action, i.e., more speech, lots of speech, divergent opinions all played out in the Pajiban marketplace of ideas.

That this particular marketplace tends to attract people who have similar values/beliefs/opinions is not surprising--most markets do--but we (the "government," as it were) are not actively excluding others. Hooray for spirited argument, especially if scathing and bitchy (as advertised).

Kudos to Dustin for taking a stand, wrathful, foul-mouthed, incensed, and deeply appreciated by many of us who share his utter distaste for cinematic speech that degrades another human being, particularly women. Go ahead, call me paternalistic, I plead guilty. I do not want my daughters or sons exposed to this filth. I do not want it available to the susceptible target audience of mental and ethical midgets who will get reinforcement for their belief that it is acceptible to treat someone this way. I am not,however, advocating banning this movie and its ilk. This is torture porn fantasy that only feeds already sick minds, in my opinion. Accordingly, I am calling on those of us who decry this offensive material to speak out and to vote with our dollars and not patronize this desecration or its purveyors.

I have no problem whatsoever calling it out as such and encouraging others who believe likewise to do the same. If you disagree, have at it in the marketplace of ideas, where defenders of torture porn are all but unarmed intellectually and morally.

Unlike some, I do not fear for the future because we still have ready opportunity for people to speak their minds. The cretins have always been amongst us, unfortunately, it appears that they are now able to finance, film, and distribute broadly movies that play to their deviant (lack of) sensibilities. That does not mean that any of the rest of us lose our right and ability to blunt those efforts to degrade our society.

Posted by: rudy at July 13, 2007 11:48 AM

I'm the kind of girl who just ignores what doesn't interest me, in a "life is too short to waste brain space on crap" kind of way. So torture-porn as a genre never even hit my radar. I love spooky and scary, but not gory just for the sake of watching fake blood fly around. So all the Saws and Hostels and Captivities don't even occur to me. But I did stumble across a few internet sites that mention how grotesquely disgusting this movie is. And I am quite happy to see that Dustin and so many commenters, agree. It is good to know so many people will be ignoring this movie as I have.

The really cool thing about movies is that we are free to not give a fuck about the shitty ones. So here's to not giving a fuck.

Posted by: Chris at July 13, 2007 11:59 AM

I read this site often...love the reviews...and even put up with EVERYTHING eventually coming down to evil republicans vs. humanity....but the fact that NO ONE thinks that nexus 6's comment on Ann Coulter, no matter how repugnant you may find her,is downright evil, just scares me. It shows how hipocritical many here are. She is a woman, and you would WANT to see her killed and raped this way? Hmmmm...Sit and say how it disgusts you all you want, but unfortunately for the people that agree with this line of thinking, the people who made this movie SHARE your political views...hell, they are the ones driving a particular political party with their "blood money". NO ONE comes out and refuses to take money from these studios. NO ONE makes it a point to stop this shit. Torture porn is awful, disgusting and completely unnecessary, but the creeps who pay the $$ for this garbage ensure that it will go on...and for the person who said that bringing ANY attention to this trash will only bring out the assholes who will see it because it is trendy...Bravo! I am sure that no matter how many good points I have made here, I will be bashed because I may or may not be an EVIL republican....which is it? Muhahahahaha!

Posted by: teebee at July 13, 2007 12:04 PM

Thanks Dustin, and most of the posters. Nothing like a bit of righteous anger. I feel like hosting a boot party. But I also feel like hugging you and giving you milk and cookies.

Can I make one point that seems to have eluded the posters with - shall we say 'questionable' or 'frightening' attitudes towards women specifically and sexual politics in general?

If you don't give a shit about women, at least give a shit about yourselves. Films like this dehumanise men as well. The message is that men are animals. And every person (whether male or female) who gets sexual kicks from this type of shit is announcing to the world that they are inhuman.

Some of the comments on this posting have reminded me of the men who say women ask for it when they get sexually assaulted. That's the same thing as saying- "He's a man, therefore he cannot be trusted around a short skirt or a provocative dance. He is an animal, ruled by sexual and violent urges. He should not be expected to be able to control himself."

THAT sounds like true man hating to me.

Posted by: Amanda at July 13, 2007 12:11 PM

Thanks Dustin, and most of the posters. Nothing like a bit of righteous anger. I feel like hosting a boot party. But I also feel like hugging you and giving you milk and cookies.

Can I make one point that seems to have eluded the posters with - shall we say 'questionable' or 'frightening' attitudes towards women specifically and sexual politics in general?

If you don't give a shit about women, at least give a shit about yourselves. Films like this dehumanise men as well. The message is that men are animals. And every person (whether male or female) who gets sexual kicks from this type of shit is announcing to the world that they are inhuman.

Some of the comments on this posting have reminded me of the men who say women ask for it when they get sexually assaulted. That's the same thing as saying- "He's a man, therefore he cannot be trusted around a short skirt or a provocative dance. He is an animal, ruled by sexual and violent urges. He should not be expected to be able to control himself."

THAT sounds like true man hating to me.

Posted by: Amanda at July 13, 2007 12:12 PM

Very good review. Don't worry Mr. Rowles, I have no intention of seeing this picture. I'm tired of the torture genre. Some sick freaks must like watching people in agony. Like you said, women are getting the worst of it, but some "people" like viewing this stuff no matter what gender the victim is. How pathetic.

Posted by: Dave at July 13, 2007 12:12 PM

Very good review. Don't worry Mr. Rowles, I have no intention of seeing this picture. I'm tired of the torture genre. Some sick freaks must like watching people in agony. Like you said, women are getting the worst of it, but some "people" like viewing this stuff no matter what gender the victim is. How pathetic.

Posted by: Dave at July 13, 2007 12:13 PM

Sorry for the double post!

Posted by: Amanda at July 13, 2007 12:44 PM

Don't ever put the original "Saw" in the same category as this crap. "Saw" has a plot and a mind-fuck of a twist ending.

Just letting you all know that.

Posted by: jeff at July 13, 2007 12:57 PM

Censorship is government imposed and enforced banning of speech. What we have here is the First Amendment in action, i.e., more speech, lots of speech, divergent opinions all played out in the Pajiban marketplace of ideas.

*********************************************

Yeah whatever, all I'm seeing is a gangbang (and please don't explain the literal definition of gangbang) there's a certain self important "pajibian" group mentality in this place that's a little off-putting as of late.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 13, 2007 1:07 PM

teebee, you are, I assume, fucking kidding me right? There is a substantial... no, a GIGANTIC difference between making a movie that is offensive and degrading to woman, and nexus's off-color joke. And for god's sake, spare me the woe-is-me-I'm-the-lone-republican routine. Only ONE person, out of over 250 comments, even used the word republican. The conservative doth protest too much, methinks.

And JP - wait, fuck it. Vermillion - damn boy, when you fight back, you use teeth. Well said.

Posted by: TK at July 13, 2007 1:23 PM

Hmmm, I actually thought that the other captive would be the kidnapper, and that's just from the previews. Anyway, it sounds awful.

Posted by: beletseri at July 13, 2007 1:42 PM

You know what, Amanda? That was worth saying twice! Brava!

Posted by: MO at July 13, 2007 2:13 PM

Wow. I actually wanted to see this but i didn't know anything of it. I tried to get my friend to see it with me but she said she doesn't want to and not because it's scary. So she sent me this review and I was thinking "damn". I'm glad you didn't hold back on this review it really opened my eyes to what the movie was out to be. Forget seeing this I have no desire to now...


Thank You.

Posted by: Wesley at July 13, 2007 2:25 PM

Wow. I actually wanted to see this but i didn't know anything of it. I tried to get my friend to see it with me but she said she doesn't want to and not because it's scary. So she sent me this review and I was thinking "damn". I'm glad you didn't hold back on this review it really opened my eyes to what the movie was out to be. Forget seeing this I have no desire to now...


Thank You.

Posted by: Wesley at July 13, 2007 2:26 PM

Amanda,

Can I have a cookie?! I love cookies.

Posted by: TK at July 13, 2007 2:45 PM

Loved the review, never had plans to see the movie or Hostel, Saw, etc...
Is it weird that, after my initial disgust, the first thing I thought when reading about the aforementioned human organ smoothie was concern over whether there is risk of Elisha's character getting e. coli?

Posted by: C_Orser at July 13, 2007 2:57 PM

BarbadoSlim, What is it about spirited, indeed the scathing and bitchy, exchange of ideas that puts you off? If you cannot be more articulate than "Yeah, whatever" then I suppose your delicate little sensibilities would mistake adult conversation for a "gangbang". If you do not like the prevailing "group mentality," then contribute something worth considering to change it. As it is, your submission(s) hardly advances the debate. A suggestion: if you are "put off," then act on that and cease your minimal-value commentary.

Posted by: rudy at July 13, 2007 3:55 PM

I saw it and the review is accurate. I saw is as I think Elisha is hot and I love torture porn. This just sucked. Boring, no build up to anything, just a waste.

Posted by: CM at July 13, 2007 4:17 PM

Sounds like this flick makes Boxing Helena look like The Sound of Music......

Posted by: courtney at July 13, 2007 4:26 PM

As it is, your submission(s) hardly advances the debate. A suggestion: if you are "put off," then act on that and cease your minimal-value commentary.

************************************************

Do I work for you? I ask you again do I FUCKING work for you? No, right? then what gives you the right to order me around. And who the hell made you arbiter of the value of commentary around here?

My commentary stands as is, minimal as you think it is (and take wild guess as to what I think of your opinion). It's not surprising to see that "pajibans" can be as mob-minded as the lowest common denominator ditto-head.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 13, 2007 4:50 PM

First, killer review.

I live in Boston, so I'm not familiar with the ads in LA, but there are ads for Craptivity on the T (the subway), and I've had to look at them for weeks now. Even at first glance, I was curious and disgusted by the image of Cuthbert's face, make-up smeared, behind a fence/cage. I looked at it longer, trying to figure out exactly what the point of the "film" was, and I concluded that it was yet another carnography/torture-porn flick; and yet I felt something more - I wasn't quite seeing the whole picture. I thought "Her tears are dripping with mascara, her mouth is open slightly as if to release a horrified cry, and the overall look is gritty and dark. This shit has gone too fucking far."

After reading your review, I feel relieved that my basic instincts about this piece of shit were mature and clear. I actually feel like a good person because I don't enjoy this drek.

All day today at work, I was telling people to avoid the movie at all costs. As far as the ads go, I always carry a boxcutter and was very close to shredding the ad to pieces before I got off the train, but I stopped at the last moment for fear of being arrested (there was a T guy nearby). Perhaps if I ride at night...

Posted by: AnonymousSkull at July 13, 2007 5:05 PM

I don't protest....and no woe-is-me....just a little ridiculous that when someone agrees with your POV you label it "off color", however, when you disagree with statements of any ilk, you and the "mob" waste no time in hurling insult after insult to drive that person away. Using the " If you don't like it then leave." or " Your contribution is minimal anyway" lines most often. Most do go, they have thin skin. But like I said...I agree with most things said...I just wish the whining about left/right would stop. If it is wrong it is wrong...plain and simple. And nexus 6 was wrong. Saying you HOPE so and so ( who is a real live breathing person...I think... ) gets raped and killed is DIFFERENT than making a movie ( definitely fake I might add...unless it is a documentary ) about said action? C'mon, are YOU fucking kidding ME? You are free to express your opinion, but don't hide behind a veil of outrage over things like movies when you giggle about those very same things happening to actual people. My input may go unappreciated, and it may be minimal...but I won't go...I just love honest reviews too much....sorry.

Posted by: teebee at July 13, 2007 5:09 PM

It's just more of the same, you see, people don't wanna debate shit they want to bully, the classic dictatorship by majority. And to actually think that I thought this place w as different. If anything the smug jackassery can get worse because of the supposed higher level of education.

I actually agree that the movie is crap, I just said the market would decide its fate. I didn't feel the need to write an over worded self-serving Supreme Court brief about it.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 13, 2007 5:17 PM

I'm so sorry you had to see this, Dustin, but thanks for the warning.
I have not loved every movie that has been positively reviewed on Pajiba, but I do applaud anyone trying to make a movie of significance or actual entertainment. I am really sick of celebrity-packaged crap. And, personally, I become physically ill whenever there's needless violence towards women.
As for the ad on Pajiba - it just made me wish more than ever that this movie would come and go as quickly as possible.

Posted by: mfg at July 13, 2007 5:26 PM

You know this genre of movies ,and this movie in particular, is so fucking awful in every sense of the word, that the TV spot for it mentions the the FUCKING BILLBOARD that got all that attention. The ad mentions another ad that was just as terrible as the movie. And of course it is the "most controversial horror movie ever" says fucking who? Some jerkoff? Christ fucking almighty take this so called "genre" and put a fucking bullet in its rotted brain. Fuck Fuckity Fuck Fuck.

Posted by: Gigantor at July 13, 2007 6:18 PM

I put this in my netflix queue a while back. I'm taking it off right now.

Posted by: Candy at July 13, 2007 8:07 PM

So.... What do you all think about "Classics" like "MANIAC", "Last House On The Left", "Last House On Dead End Street", "I Spit On Your Grave", "Mother's Day" and the like... or is that beyond you scopes since their all older films.

I ask because you're talking about these current Torture Porn films the same way protestors talked about those films back in the day.

I think those films were more effective, given their filmmaking style: grittier and more realistic.

Ithink the only thing really unsettling about this new crop of films ("Capitivity" included) is that they're slicker looking, have name actors, and are released on a grad scale, like the major film releases.

Personally, I find you lot much scarier than the MPAA.

Posted by: Terry at July 13, 2007 8:36 PM

So many stupid comments about this review. Let's all get pissed because Rowles is! Yipee! If you haven't seen it, shut the fuck up. Just don't see it. I never intended to, and I won't. 4 paragraphs of Rowles letting us know how pissed he is doesn't deserve a Pulitzer or a pat on the back, folks. If any of you actually needed to be told this film would be shit then you have problems of your own.

Posted by: markus at July 13, 2007 9:06 PM

motherfucking slow clap for this review.

Posted by: Bobbie at July 13, 2007 9:25 PM

dont be so soft you crybaby if you dont like the movie dont go. I'll be going tomorrow to watch it cannt wait. dont need your psychbabble

Posted by: williard at July 13, 2007 9:33 PM

Never thought I would be saying this, but in their own way, BarbadoSlim and markus are right. Dustin had to see this as position as a film critic. While the review was quite entertaining by itself, the glad handing and self-congratulation is overwhelming. I admit, I am guilty of it as well, and I own up to my part.

rudy, you claim we are here for the free exchange of ideas, but when they presented ideas that were not coinciding with the groupthink, they were attacked. It wasn't like he was one of those guys who has to pop in and say "Stop being sheep! Why listen to a review?", which I do believe we did receive here on this page. BarbadoSlim agreed that the movie was garbage, and merely stated that the market would show how people truly felt about this film. Hell, he is practically an optimist, believing that the number of people who get off on films like this are considerably outnumbered by those who realize what utter dross this movie is.

If you thought the movie was crap already, great, wonderful even. But this isn't Watergate folks. This wasn't some groundbreaking piece of journalism. This was a man sick and tired of torture porn giving a crappy movie the text equivalent of the finger. That is all. You already know how you felt, and you should already be secure in your feelings. Getting validation from this review is pretty creepy.

I am not saying we cannot express your concurrence with the review. Just tone down the righteous indignation a bit, especially if you were not going to see it anyway. In my opinion, the best example of an appropriate comment was from Wesley. He told how he felt about the flick, and how the review affected him. I wish I had kept it that simple.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 13, 2007 9:59 PM

I think everybody got caught up. If I went out of line I apologize to those participants who are honestly trying to raise the bar and the level of discourse.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 13, 2007 10:05 PM

Vermillion, I heard Pretentious Pricks is opening up for Bad Religion on the Warped Tour. Wanna go?

Posted by: JP at July 13, 2007 11:03 PM

This movie looks like horrible, depraved bullshit and I'm glad it's getting 9% at rotten tomatoes- here's hoping the audience response (or total lack thereof) will mirror the critical one.

That said, reading this review was so heartening. I skimmed the comments and saw a few people saying "lay off the feminist shit" or whatever, but it's so refreshing to hear a guy who is as pissed the fuck off about injustice (or cinematic representations of injustice) against women as women are. Thanks for taking a stand.

Posted by: twibs at July 13, 2007 11:22 PM

Good to know that there are other people out there who won't stand for this new brand of genre. First Saw, then Hostel, Hostel II, then this?! Lets put an end to this trend already people! I don't care if it targets males or females, it's just wrong and an insult to cinematic industry.

Posted by: Lauren at July 13, 2007 11:43 PM

Dustin was so busy retching at the pointless sadism of Captivity that he missed the film's other apparent message, as symbolized by it's leading lady: If typecasting is inevitable, lie back and enjoy it.

Memo to Elisha Cuthbert: You need to fire your agent while you still have a career. And you probably ought to get your head examined while you're at it. Or check into rehab, even. Were you on FRICKIN' DRUGS when you decided this would be a good movie to add to your film resume? Jeez, woman...

Elisha does have acting talent. Too bad she has horrible judgement when it comes to picking movie roles.

And Teebee: right on. I guess that makes two conservatives who read Pajiba...although wishing that sort of horrible death on anyone based on nothing more than political malice is inexcusable.

And for the guy further up the thread who was bitching about the "feminist" message of Dustin's review: there's nothing "feminist" about outrage over the mistreatment of women, real or imagined. Where I come from, that sort of outrage is part and parcel of being a man, actually.

Posted by: Wes S. at July 14, 2007 1:42 AM

I'm scratching my head over the idea that some of the folks commenting have that this is a new genre.
As already pointed out by several other readers, these kinds of movies have been around for decades. So it's having a small resurgence lately . It has a catchy new name though in "torture porn", which may be why it is suddenly on everyone's radar. A large number of the older '70's horror films would easily fall into this category, including classics like Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

There are several fascinating elements in a lot of the comments so far. One of the most interesting (to me), is the way people decry the film's cruelty, while advocating the same torture for the people involved in making the film.
Or, even more bizarre, decrying the violence and then suggesting that it would be OK if it was perpetrated on someone they don't agree with politically.

It would be interesting if the current administration decided to ban films like this on moral grounds. Would that change how some of you feel about these kinds of films? If W came on television and said "Captiverty is an uffront to the 'Mercan way of life, and we must protect our young'uns from this kind of garbage". Would everyone be saying "Yeah, ban that shit!!!"? I'm guessing that they wouldn't.

So, sure, you may not like this genre. Don't go see the movies. That is really the bottom line...

I'm simply offering this as food for thought, hopefully I haven't misspelled anything that will immediately discount any point I am trying to make.

For the record (before I get the "if you don't like the reviews why are you posting here, troll?" responses), I like reading Pajiba, I mostly agree with the reviews and hence, I use them to help decide if I am going to enjoy a movie. I also don't normally watch a lot of "torture porn".

Posted by: canologY at July 14, 2007 6:55 AM

I enjoyed the review. Amussing thing how _rage_ engages. Ironic?

And, hey, thanks for the evidently overcompensating high-fly anti-mysogyny act. Your naivete is quite endearing.

Posted by: 44 at July 14, 2007 6:59 AM

This movie is what degraded beings do to each other. If you are not at least Clear as defined by Dianetics and Scientology you are degraded. Quite the crap and get on the Bridge to Total Freedom! Watch out for the perverts and criminals in the world. You will find the worst of the worst on my website www.religiousfreedomwatch.org the things they do are much worse than this movie. Just be grateful my company, American Coast Title is run well and is profitabel enough to pay for the public service website.

And if you want to make money look at the reward section of my site.

Joel Phillips

Posted by: Joel Phillips at July 14, 2007 11:58 AM

For all those telling people to tone down the indignation just because you're sick of reading it, or maybe you just want to piss some people off, there's absolutely nothing wrong with people being outraged and offended by and outrageously offensive film. This is exactly the kind of response it should be getting. And if people are offended by it and want to say so, that's not them just going along with everyone else, that's them having their heads in the right place.

Posted by: Meredith at July 14, 2007 12:18 PM

To Gus Hanson: So, you'll marry me if I give up the Camels, huh? Are you wealthy enough to fund the luxurious and daily cocaine habit that will replace it? If so: Yes, I will marry you.

Oh, and you'd better be a dreamboat and have a big wiener.

Posted by: Amanda at July 14, 2007 1:49 PM

I have to say that I am rather new to Pajiba and reading this review i thought the writer might have been a woman. Very refreshing to see that men see and don't put up with the over all excepted misogyny passed off as a movie. I watched the preview and I had a feeling the co-captive was in fact the captor. So not only is it a sorry excuse for torture-porn.. oh wait.. it's supposed to be a movie.. The script sucks cause even in the preview you can guess the god damn ending~!! Also... Elisha Cuthbert seems very underrated to me but if she ever wants to have a real film career, next time, read the script before just blindly saying yes to whatever movie will have you.

Posted by: G at July 14, 2007 1:51 PM

Ahhh!! There's a false-Amanda leaving comments here! Just to keep things straight, from now on I'll be Amanda H!!!!!!!

In your face, false-Amanda!

Posted by: Amanda at July 14, 2007 1:55 PM

Wow. Not that I planned to see this pile of dog vomit anyway, but thanks for jumping on the grenade for us.

To the moviegoers of America, I quote the words of Jay Sherman: "If the movie stinks, just don't go!"

Posted by: Angel H. at July 14, 2007 4:09 PM

Wow, Dustin, I agree with everything you wrote! Thanks for sticking up for what you believe in.

This movie is sick, sicker than sick. I HATE this type of sick and twisted movie genre with a passion...actually, this movie shouldn't even be put into a categlory it's so horrible.

Posted by: Jennyloveland at July 14, 2007 4:55 PM

Some feminist writes: "Is this 'film' worse [than Caged Heat etc] because she consumes blended human viscera???"
Yes, in fact, yes it is. Do you really not get the difference or are you just being obtuse for political reasons?
Obviously there are women out there with as many issues as the nerks who make torture porn movies. In fact I'm sure there are girls out there with body and rejection issues who want to watch "hot chicks get tortured" just as much as the boys.
Maybe more.
I blame "Fear Factor" for plumbing these depths, more than older exploitation movies, and showing the public acceptance of and appetite for them (and for bugs and offal slurpys).
The prize ass was the guy who blamed it all on the producers. Because the directors wanted to make an arty plot movie, but it got left on the cutting room floor. Cue violins. IDIOT. How stupid can you get? You can't edit in scenes that didn't get shot, even today.
As for the Manga genre, I enjoy that stuff, it reaches parts of the psyche that bear little connection to reality. The BIG difference is that the makers of torture porn try to convince you that what you see is REALLY HAPPENING, and that is never an issue when the Manga monster comes out of the sixth dimension to rape the Manga girl.

Posted by: George at July 14, 2007 6:54 PM

Meredith said: And if people are offended by it and want to say so, that's not them just going along with everyone else, that's them having their heads in the right place.

Wait a sec.
Are you saying that anyone who isn't offended that this movie exists doesn't have their head in the right place?
Does this count for all movies that offend people? Or just the ones that offend you?

There were thousands of people offended by the photo by Andres Serrano called Piss Christ. Mostly Christian conservatives, were they "just having their heads in the right place"?

Art's not comfortable. Maybe the filmmakers wanted this type of response in order to make a point about the dehumanization of women, or our societal obsession with celebrity (Cuthbert's character is supposed to be some big fashion model/actress ala Paris Hilton).

Saying you dislike this kind of movie is fine. Saying that movies like this shouldn't exist is simply censorship and is just as fucked up here as in any other situation. Before I get excoriated for that statement, let me add that wishing movies like this one didn't exist is cool as well.

Posted by: canologY at July 14, 2007 7:11 PM

That is the best, no holds barred, review of any movie I ever read.

Thank you. I will avoid this movie like the plague.

Posted by: Sue at July 14, 2007 7:15 PM

George opined: As for the Manga genre, I enjoy that stuff, it reaches parts of the psyche that bear little connection to reality. The BIG difference is that the makers of torture porn try to convince you that what you see is REALLY HAPPENING, and that is never an issue when the Manga monster comes out of the sixth dimension to rape the Manga girl.

LOL

That's a joke, right?

Who the hell sits in a theater and thinks "this is really happening, eek!!"?

And it's ok to enjoy looking at Japanese schoolgirls getting sodomized by Cthulhu as long as it's just a cartoon? Do they have animated manga? If so, would that be ok to enjoy? What about a big budget live-action manga? Would that still be ok? It seems to me that if you enjoy watching girls getting raped by monsters then you don't get to pass judgment on people who may like watching movies like Captivity.
How the hell is it that manga touches the dark recesses of the psyche and this movie doesn't?

Posted by: canology at July 14, 2007 7:27 PM

I'm puzzled.

Does everyone assume that people who watch these movies enjoys them on a sexual level? I sincerely doubt that that is the case in 95% of the cases (obviously there are some fucked up people in the world).
Some people watch these movies to be horrified as a form of catharsis, which is what I have always assumed the horror genre in general aims for.

I haven't seen Captivity, but I really doubt that the theater is filled with guys angrily jerking off to it.

Posted by: canology at July 14, 2007 7:39 PM

Its a horror suspense movie stop trying to use it to get up on your feminist soapbox. Its a fucking movie, not real and if you don't like it then don't ever watch it again. There's way more important things in this world to bitch about then some stupid movie.

Posted by: getoverit at July 14, 2007 8:47 PM

WOW...George...dude...DUDE!..I beg to differ...see....you aren't sitting in a crowded theater watching manga rape cartoons...you are sitting naked in front of your computer beating off....these A-holes made a movie to cash in on the OTHER a-holes who enjoy this trash ( for God knows what reason but it won't end here ). But paying to watch a cartoon about monsters and schoolgirls getting raped by said monsters alone in a dark room on your computer is just creepy. There really isnt a better word to describe it. I could curse and I guess it could just add more weight to it, but I just don't think it is neccessary here. So it's just CREEPY. Now, I don't know if you actually watch it or you just used it as a reference, but I for one would have made DAMN sure to put in that little disclaimer. Just sayin'.

Posted by: teebee at July 14, 2007 9:26 PM

You now what sucks? Clicking on someones name here in the comments....then reading their blog...then finding that they are VERY funny...funnier than you thought you were...and you just really wanted to be angry with them for a minute...but now you can't...that sucks...I think...Nexus6 & TK.....funny stuff. BTW...shit-ninja...classic.

Posted by: teebee at July 14, 2007 10:02 PM

wow dustin reading this review made me WANT to go and see this film. can't wait!

Posted by: blah at July 15, 2007 12:06 AM

dustin...nice review. get that aggression out before the baby starts crying at 2 am!!!

seriously, though, even though i am a fan of the most extreme and unnecessary horror, i had this one figured out about halfway through the trailer.

i though, "hmmmm, how could they market this the same way as "saw" et al yet still make an 'original' movie?" OK, make the "other guy" the captor.

granted, i don't try to figure movies out and i tend to just enjoy them and let them take me where they will, but this one was just too obvious.

and BTW, elisha cuthbert is too damn hot to be stooping to this level. at the very least, she needs to do "girl next door 2", where she returns to porn and bangs the shit out of the headmasters of the colleges of the 3 losers in "girl next door" so they can graduate. i'd pay to see that.

Posted by: idiot dentist at July 15, 2007 12:32 AM

The movie can't actually be worse than this "review," can it?

Posted by: ElfShotTheFood at July 15, 2007 1:07 AM

teebee - come by anytime.

-ShitNinja

Posted by: TK at July 15, 2007 1:41 AM

OK, i know that roland jaffe directed "the killing fields" (AND "super mario brothers", for all you haters out there...), but please GOD don't tell me that THE larry cohen of "god told me to", "Q", "it's alive", and "the stuff", is involved in this shit.

i'll go check IMDB, and if this is true, i man have the urge to drive my car, jerk the wheel, and careen into a goddamn bridge abutment!

please let this not be so.

Posted by: idiot dentist at July 15, 2007 2:05 AM

Tried posting earlier today, apparently it didn't go through and now I'm at the perfect buzz level to drool all over this site & sound completely ridiculous doing it.
Dustin, I fully intend to never, ever get on your bad side, never ever ever - I'd have to leave the country after receiving a brutally-written beating I could imagine you giving me in response to any offense I may inadvertently inflict upon you, which I will now apologize for in advance if such a horrible occasion should arise.
I tore into your deliciously hateful review like a Doberman on fresh, wet, raw hamburger meat (I save my better metaphors for times when I can post more timely - sorry for this substitute). I hate summertime and, like more than most people would like to admit, my temper naturally goes up with the temperature itself, confirming my belief that a confluence of different reactions to this most excellent review virtually brimming over with hatred and disgust from most commenters involved is a direct result of part of our global-warming mentality coupled with our ever-expanding realization that the current administration is screwing us just as they have from the beginning, and that indeed they expect to bankrupt our nation and leave the rest of us to fend for ourselves when we're no longer considered a "powerful" country, directly because Bush and Cheney decided that was no longer relevant (Come on, peeps, I rarely have a forum to bash Bush- indulge me already).
Let's face it folks, even with the vitriol that two of our most consistent commenters (Vermillion & B-Slim) admit went a bit over the edge, reading that incredibly craptastic review of a sick excuse for a movie (AND each and every single comment) only provided my troubled mind with further proof that we love a great bitch-slapping review of a movie that Dustin seems to deliver better than anyone nowadays.
MG summed it up perfectly for me when he "got a contact high from your seething fury." All the rest of you have made my own opinions obsolete, which is both satisfying and frustrating at the same time, seeing that virtually every thought I could articulate on the subject at hand has already been covered and communicated, mostly in such eloquent ways that any singular opinion I could offer would be less than minimal to the overall and complete, fair and balanced response (yeah, I went there) we've already seen in this comments section at this point, am I right?
Hell, maybe now my window unit has cooled the bedroom air with a nippy 74-degree temp I can finally go to sleep in, seeing that it's closing in on 3 am and this is the coolest time I can hope for in a 24-hour SC day.
Thanks to everyone for the great Saturday morning reading I enjoyed so much. G'night already.

Posted by: TMax at July 15, 2007 3:07 AM

JP: Sure, as long as I can bring my Scrabble spelling dictionary. :)

44: Oh, PLEASE do elaborate further.

Joel Phillips: FREE KATIE!!!!

Posted by: Vermillion at July 15, 2007 7:22 AM

I hope the dvd is unrated.

Posted by: funforall at July 15, 2007 12:08 PM

Another thank you to add to your list. For making sure that people understand the utter effing sickness of any movie like this.

Posted by: IamKateness at July 15, 2007 12:52 PM

As my birth name is Amanda, I'm pretty sure I'm not a "false Amanda." Sorry to confuse your adoring fans though.

Posted by: Amanda at July 15, 2007 3:33 PM

I KNEW this film would be craptastic and another hit on a really decomposed horse.
reviews like this make me happy.
good job, man.

Posted by: filmfaerie at July 15, 2007 5:44 PM

now i HELL of want to see it. It sounds rad
www.iseerobots.com

Posted by: Ben Lid at July 15, 2007 6:20 PM

That's righteous anger and well done at that.

Posted by: Andrew at July 15, 2007 7:05 PM

Maybe the filmmakers wanted this type of response in order to make a point about the dehumanization of women, or our societal obsession with celebrity

And maybe Rudolph the Red-nosed reindeer will sew my prom dress while I drink rainbows from a fountain made of moonbeams.
Sorry about the sarcasm.
Go to www.stickersisters.com for your guerilla sticker needs.

Also, I will be sending this review to many people.

Posted by: Molly at July 15, 2007 8:47 PM

One of the more laughable trends of modern society is the feminist demand for both equality and special treatment concurrently.

I'm not saying I approve of the movie. In fact, I'm as outraged by it as anyone else is. What may be more outrageous, though, is the fact that the people screaming "misogyny" in this thread are the ones responsible for the fact that a film like this can be considered acceptable. This movie is a great example of true equality. In a world of equality, gender roles have no bearing on how offensive a film is. So, feminists, enjoy your world when no gentlemen are left. It shouldn't be long, since there haven't been any ladies for years.

Posted by: LogicalThinking at July 15, 2007 8:48 PM

Soooooo... I should let men open doors for me and stop demanding equal pay for equal work because then I might not get tortured for someone's sexual pleasure?

Interesting perspective.

Posted by: Molly at July 15, 2007 8:53 PM

Show me a woman that knows what equal work is and I'll stand beside you fighting for her right to get equal pay. Also, I don't think holding doors is what being a gentleman is about. Being a gentleman is having respect for women by realizing what they are: the other, very different but just as important, half of the human race. The problem with feminists is that they are insulted by men looking at them differently and treating them as such. Guess what, women! You ARE different than men. The best way I've heard it stated it this: "If men didn't exist, nature would've killed off women. If women didn't exist, men would've killed off themselves." Obviously this takes out of consideration sexual reproduction, but I think it is an effective illustration of humanity.

Posted by: MeAgain at July 15, 2007 9:38 PM

I'm a few days late on this because I just came to your site for the first time via the comments on the avclub's review, but I am subscribing to the feed (i hope there is one!) right away. This review was amazing, and I feel a little ridiculous saying this but it has rejuvenated my faith in feminism. I'm glad to see that there are so many other angry feminists out there in the world--and I mean that in a good way. Thank you, Dustin!

Posted by: mcbaker at July 15, 2007 9:41 PM

Opening weekend: $1.5M

Torture porn is dead. It's about damn time.

Posted by: Rob at July 15, 2007 9:41 PM

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Posted by: Elizabeth at July 15, 2007 11:55 PM

I would never have been interested in this movie, but maybe this piece from CNN will tell the tale: "The weekend's other new wide release, grisly horror story "Captivity" from Lionsgate and After Dark Films, opened out of the top 10 with $1.55 million, coming in at No. 12. The movie stars Elisha Cuthbert as a model who is abducted and tortured."
It probably won't take much to get back the productions costs, but maybe this will end this type of film once and for all.

Posted by: memikeyounot at July 16, 2007 12:36 AM

I feel that both this rant and Joss Whedon's have a sexist logic underlying them. Others have pointed out that objecting to the films because the torture object was a sexy young woman is sexist. I agree. The notion that women should receive special treatment or respect that men do not, presupposes an inequality between men and women. Objections should be on humanist grounds.

People have rebutted by saying that only men (bad, wrong men instructed by twisted, woman-hating culture) like torture porn and THAT is why these films are about men hating women.

In my experience this is demonstrably false.

If people will venture to read fan fiction and erotica written by women, it will not take them long to discover that lots and lots of women like to fantasize about attractive young people, usually men, tortured in a sexual way, often with the victim then have sex with their captor or presented as getting off on the torture.

I would love to see a day when women have the opportunity and daring to make expensive movies about their "sick depraved" sexual fantasies instead of only being able to express themselves in the anonymity and low cost venue of the internet.

Posted by: Amanda at July 16, 2007 12:58 AM

I'm glad this review is coming from a man. As a young woman, what I see around me eveyday is starting to warp my consiousness. My deepest fear is that this sort of dreck is actually what most men secretly want. I can barely look at my male friends without thinking "5 beers away from date rapist", and men on the street are just that much worse. I sincerely hope you're the rule and not the exception.

Posted by: rrm at July 16, 2007 3:20 AM

Actually, I rescind my previous statements after reading a small fraction of the comments. For every man who was repulsed it seemed like there were at least 3 more who were excited. I will continue to live in fear.

Posted by: rrm at July 16, 2007 3:26 AM

It's a shame so many of you have chosen to view this as an anti-female flick rather than put into perspective the real message of the film... how modern society has changed gender roles to empower women. I didn't get it first either but it really says alot when men are reduced to voyuerism to feel equal/worthy of an attractive female. We can only hope that's as far as people will go to achieve a 'high' but to dismiss the film entirely for the niche it's targeting is the real crime.

Posted by: Lone voice at July 16, 2007 3:51 AM

rm, I hope you don't seriously make life choices along the lines of "I will continue to live in fear" based on comments made by a bunch of juvenile miscreants on a movie review website.

Posted by: canology at July 16, 2007 5:43 AM

Amanda: I must disagree with you. I don't think this review is being sexist, instead it is approaching the movie on it's (for lack of a better word) merits: the movie is about a man torturing a woman for the express purpose of sexual contact. He does not regard her as a human being to be conversed with; he sees her as a disobedient plaything that he is punishing in order to 'correct' her bad behavior. It is difficult to see this in a completely humanistic way, and I don't think it is fair to invalidate an opinion on those grounds.

If women DID make these types of flicks, then we could use the humanistic viewpoint, because then there would be something to compare against. But they don't. Women are most certainly free to make whatever dark and twisted movies they wish, but I think the reason they don't is they are struggling against the still-held belief that women are somehow asexual and pure until a man comes along and 'saves' her from it. That is why the anonymity of the Internet is so appealing. The day a woman does make a film like this, I sincerely hope people are just as offended as they are now. But the signs are pointing towards a wounding, if not a death, of this subgenre. And its days on this earth are mercifully shortened.

Lone voice: You are severely mistaken if you think this movie somehow shows that women are more empowered. Take a look around. At least in Western culture, women have held that power for centuries. The whole idea behind things like manners, etiquette, courtship, weddings and more are based around the idea that the woman was not worthy of the man until he proved himself. Dozens of myths and stories center around how a man has to go through many a trial to win his beloved's hand.

The only thing this movie does is tell men that if a pretty girl seems out of your reach, then just drug, kidnap, and torture her until she is a broken, shambling mess. Then she is brought down to an acceptable level. Instead of approaching her like a human being and asking her out, he concocts this elaborate plan to mindfuck her completely, just to get in her panties. Basically, if she says no, or even if she MIGHT say no, beat her down until she says yes. Does that sound empowering to you? It sounded to me more like an attempt to drain power, reason, and resolve from her.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 16, 2007 7:30 AM

One of the more laughable trends of modern society is the feminist demand for both equality and special treatment concurrently.

The reason there's a "demand" is because the equality hasn't been achieved. And, pray tell, what special treatment?
'cuz last I checked, I still have to shell out $55 a month for birth control, while useless shit like Viagra is covered.

Posted by: Stella at July 16, 2007 9:12 AM

:D lol you hatin coz u a woman who belongs in the kitchen :D don't like it? turn ur face and i'll give another black one :D elisha + consensual sex = gold , no matter how u look at it...

Posted by: buzzlightyear at July 16, 2007 9:27 AM

lol u stupid gay loser's/females (in same group) should all stick to harry potter and alice in wonderland coz that's all u can jack off teh :D
stupid noob can't even right a review without crying like a bitch

Posted by: buzz light year at July 16, 2007 9:31 AM

:D this movie is enacting my dream :D can't wait to drug my 3rd sexy female :D

Posted by: buzz at July 16, 2007 9:41 AM

As a woman and a hellaciously opinionated one, I Fucking HATE torture porn\craptacular movies that do absolutely nothing but help to participate in the dumbification of the general public. I love war movies and genuinely good horror movies (of which I have seen few that freak me out as badly as the original 1950's edition of "Psycho"). I cannot really think of a single good horror movie in recent years. This kind of disturbing, pseudo-psychological wanna-be mindfuck needs to be stopped. This boils down to a particularly nauseating way to spend 90 minutes during which time, if you a soul-bearing being, your brain cells should actually begin screaming for help or acting like a group of lemmings and committing mass suicide.

Bonnie, your comment about the honor killing is a great point to bring up. Currently in the UK, there is a trial about an honor killing of a young woman by her father and uncle. They slit her throat and the police were unable to stop it, even with a order of protection. Also, kudos on the following comment.
"Oh, and in the action flicks that I've seen, I've yet to witness the hero forcing his victims to drink an organ smoothie."
I believe that this holds true for most movies. Action, Sci-Fi, Chick Flick, what have ya.
The only reason I have not posted until now is because of my intense hate for this type of movie. I have no intent on ever seeing this movie or any of it's torture porn partners.
Bravo Dustin, Bravo.

Posted by: Melody at July 16, 2007 10:54 AM

WTF????I think I threw up in my mouth.
A little...

You know Hollywood is over when this peiece of shit is made.

Posted by: Jean at July 16, 2007 11:35 AM

teebee: yeah, i knew it was a risk when i went there with the coulter joke. it was a reference to another thread about rape, and someone made a bad joke and people went betchass crazy. so, please don't take it personally, and i don't take things personally, and that way, we are all happy and can appreciate one another's bad, tasteless jokes. :)

cheers!
N6

Posted by: nexus 6 at July 16, 2007 11:59 AM

I don't know if anyone is still following this anaconda of a thread; but I just came across this article on CNN.com.

Looks like this film's performance at the b.o. holds out a tiny speck of hope for humankind, and also, apparently, means that more than a few carnographic projects that were "in development" are now in the shitter.

Posted by: Jerce at July 16, 2007 12:08 PM

This movie is really poopy.

Not many people saw it last weekend, so this movie probably helped to hasten the end of the current torture porn trend. Bad movie -> bad business -> there's some sense in the world.

That's the take-home message for me.

Posted by: madmaxmedia at July 16, 2007 12:37 PM

So, did you give back the money you made off the ad?

Posted by: eschwroe at July 16, 2007 1:22 PM

I can understand the misogyny discussion but no one has mentioned how Elisha's character blows her captor's cock and balls off with a shotgun, then blows a hole in his shoulder and finally ends it by a shot to the head. Then she says, "Thanks for the lesson."

Posted by: Cheetah at July 16, 2007 2:37 PM

I so have a crush on you Dustin. Thanks for the review.

Posted by: Fairmaiden327 at July 16, 2007 4:06 PM

My what a ride this "anaconda" of a thread has been. Nice to see so many people standing up for their opinions, regardless of what side they're on. Would this be the longest set of comments, I wonder? Ah well, at any rate:

Thread's dead, baby. Thread's dead.

RIP

Posted by: Stella at July 16, 2007 4:56 PM

Are there 2 versions of this movie or something? I just watched it (streamed it for free online. I'm glad I didn't waste my money). Sure, it was a bad movie but I found it relatively tame. Many of these graphic torture scenes you wrote about weren't in the movie I watched. There was no video of acid being poured on another girl, there was no being chased by a bone saw, there was no shooting of a dog, and there was no drinking of organs. The only real torture scenes consisted of lights being turned off, the girl being coerced into changing her outfits, and the sand trap. So is there like an uncensored version or did you just not see the movie?

Posted by: Kristy at July 17, 2007 5:13 AM

i swear i will NOT see this movie to see what all the fuss is about. Nope, not even when I read such a negative review--denouncing its horrors in no way piques my interest at all. I am not at all curious as to what new boundaries this film may claim to cross, and I swear I could not care less what so-called commentary or even special effects are involved. I am not a part of the society critqued in the above comments and neither is anyone else who left those comments. I am a completely detached, wholesome individual and refuse to seperate content from creator. There's simply no excuse.

I mean, it's not like the genuine hate and disgust for this movie is going to make people who aren't so easily deflected by a movies content want to go see it more or anything.

cheers

Posted by: matt at July 17, 2007 8:16 AM

My first time here to read reviews, and I am so glad I stopped.

When is sick fucking shit going to stop being entertainment?

Of course, since the govt now sponsors torture, mainstreaming it & desensitizing it only gets an R rating....

Oy.

Posted by: Diane W at July 17, 2007 10:00 AM

I made the very unfortunate mistake of being drunk and going to the movie theatre and seeing this movie.
However, in my defence, I will say that I had never heard of it before and had no idea what it was about.
Let's just say I was very very angrily sober by the end.
The only way they could have redeemed themselves after this stinking piece of shit was to have Elisha Cuthbert put down a little hurtin' of her own. Grab those pliers. ACTUALLY pull his teeth out. Remove his testicles with a machete. Chop his arms off with a chainsaw. Tie him to the chair and make him a nice little smoothie, a la Your Own Fucking Dick flavor.
Christ.
What a stupid fucking movie.

Posted by: Marley at July 17, 2007 1:20 PM

The market spoke!

Hate to say, "I told ya so" but I just did, didn't I :)

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 17, 2007 1:41 PM

FROM CNN: With Captivity opening to just $1.5 million last weekend, After Dark Films' Courtney Solomon is ready to leave behind torture porn and explore exciting new exploitative film genres: "It's overkill. I think audiences have said, 'I've had enough.' It's as simple as that."

Posted by: brandt at July 17, 2007 1:50 PM

Haven't read this whole thread, but has anyone yet floated the theory that this movie is basically "Revenge of the Nerds" gone postal? The nerd's dream is consensual sex with the super-hottie. He's mad as hell that she won't even fart in his direction. Hence the fantasy of reducing the super-hottie to a quivering, needy, readily-consenting blob of pussy. Any takers? Haters?

Posted by: imanerd at July 17, 2007 1:59 PM

I can understand the the people who are against movies such as this, but it is only a movie. There have been far worse movies made than this one. I have done research on past and present serial killers, cults etc and this movie is nothing compared to the real thing. This movie was not made to piss anyone off it was made for the day and age of horror mania. The grosser the better. Take Hostel I,II and Saw (all). I found Hostel II to be worse then Captivity . There is a
basis for everything so, not everythingt has to have a plot. I have been desensitized to these kind of movies for YEARS and I look beyond the personal feelings (that so many of you seem to have) towards the porn torture. If you really want to make a difference then put your frustrations, anger, dissappoints and what else you may have or feel, towards child molesters, rapists , murderers etc that we co exist with in the real world. What happens in our very neighborhoods, Congress, Churches, Schools are (as I have said before) far worse then this movie could ever hope to be. This movie did not bother me or piss me off and I have no hate for the people who have made it. If you really want to see something disturbing go to court, watch a rape trial, and there you will learn that Justice is the scary one. For example a women was raped and beaten within an inch of her life, the rapist admitted to eveything and got off with 2 years probabtion. No jail time, penalties, community service. This woman had no idea who this man was she never met/saw him before, but he was able to walk free because she knew she was going to be raped and she told him to please use a condom because a disease will be far worse then a rape . Now, where is our equal rights groups on that, where is the anger for the judge, jury, defendants, and plantiffs. That man was able to run around free and commit more rapes which he did and was imprisoned for two years 4 years probation due to the raping of a minor . If all the Womens Lib Activists and Bleeding Hearts want something to bitch and moan about then pick a topic that makes a difference, and something that we could have control of. Banning a movie is pointless, because there are those that are still able to buy them,. To cut this short there was a reference made to the flick I spit on your Grave and the 45 minute rape scene, Oh My God, Please that movie at best should be a comedy, Drama. Horror/rape were not explicit enough for the movie to be banned. The inuendo of rape was there but Damn, you can see a worse rape scene in the movie The generals Daughter. I am a female so please so not think that I am some guy digging this sort of movie for the T & A. I watch movies such as this just to see who can be the most gross and imaginative. Why else would anyone go to see this. It is the same thing as rubber-necking on the freeway after an accident, All of US wonder how much blood there is /how mangled are the cars. We ALL have a morbid curiosity and is part of US ALL and there is no way to get rid of it, it is after all human nature. If you really want to see something utterly disturbing watch the movie Cannibal. It is based on the the true story of Armin Meiwes and Bend Juergen. I watched this movie in fast forward ( due to the fact that sex between two men is DEFINATELY not my cup of tea ) but it is cannibalism at its best(far worse then drinking human entrails). It is a TRUELY REVOLTING movie. Sorry for the typing errors but I was in a hurry I have class , Medical Student

Posted by: CK at July 17, 2007 2:52 PM

"And don't blame Cuthbert - she has to pay the bills, too."

Are you crazy? A movie star is hurting for cash? Really? Reality check, please.

Posted by: Ashley at July 17, 2007 3:46 PM

I'd like to address the criticism leveled at Pajiba readers who agree with the review without having seen the movie. Dustin revealed that there is a scene where the female protagonist (if such a word is applicable) is forced to decide between shooting her pet or being shot herself.

Now. Without having seen the movie, I can honestly say that I have NO desire to see a movie that has a scene like that in it. There is NO redeeming quality in something like that. Even if the rest of the movie were worthwhile, I'm grateful to Dustin for having revealed that spoiler, because that scene alone would have ruined it for me. Please tell me what possible value, artistic or entertainment, that this sort of scene has.

Some years ago, under a different screen name, I used to take part in an online rendered art community. Almost all of the artists used Poser or Bryce to create scenes and scenarios in which no actual human being was harmed. The name of the site contained the word "erotica," although the genre ran more toward kinky. There were limits--no snuff, bestiality, or obviously underage content could be used--but it could get fairly extreme.


I was one of the few female artists on the site. I can tell you that there were some members who definitely wanted to see "a hot chick get tortured." There were many members who didn't contribute actual artwork themselves, just commented on other members' contributions, and some of those comments got a bit frightening. There was one guy in particular who always wanted to see female genitalia being brutalized in some manner, and his comments reflected his frustration that the artists weren't willing to give in to his preferred kink. So yes, there are people out there who will flock to see "Captivity."

What worries me most is that I actually know someone--note I didn't say he was a friend--who will probably get off on this movie.

Posted by: Noelegy at July 17, 2007 3:58 PM

I'd like to address the criticism leveled at Pajiba readers who agree with the review without having seen the movie. Dustin revealed that there is a scene where the female protagonist (if such a word is applicable) is forced to decide between shooting her pet or being shot herself.

Now. Without having seen the movie, I can honestly say that I have NO desire to see a movie that has a scene like that in it. There is NO redeeming quality in something like that. Even if the rest of the movie were worthwhile, I'm grateful to Dustin for having revealed that spoiler, because that scene alone would have ruined it for me. Please tell me what possible value, artistic or entertainment, that this sort of scene has.

Some years ago, under a different screen name, I used to take part in an online rendered art community. Almost all of the artists used Poser or Bryce to create scenes and scenarios in which no actual human being was harmed. The name of the site contained the word "erotica," although the genre ran more toward kinky. There were limits--no snuff, bestiality, or obviously underage content could be used--but it could get fairly extreme.


I was one of the few female artists on the site. I can tell you that there were some members who definitely wanted to see "a hot chick get tortured." There were many members who didn't contribute actual artwork themselves, just commented on other members' contributions, and some of those comments got a bit frightening. There was one guy in particular who always wanted to see female genitalia being brutalized in some manner, and his comments reflected his frustration that the artists weren't willing to give in to his preferred kink. So yes, there are people out there who will flock to see "Captivity."

What worries me most is that I actually know someone--note I didn't say he was a friend--who will probably get off on this movie.

Posted by: Noelegy at July 17, 2007 3:58 PM

I must have downloaded a censored version - i didnt see any of the blender or dog scene. Fucking a, rippers, dont bother with censored versions!!

Posted by: Jimbo at July 17, 2007 4:30 PM

I am sick to fucking death of continually seeing women portrayed as nothing more than victims and playthings, and I am further nauseated that after seeing the ads for this movie on the metro, my male colleagues seemed excited to see "that chick from 24" get tortured. Appalling.

Posted by: claire at July 17, 2007 5:07 PM

N6...no offense taken...she is truly an awful person...she knows no bounds and embarasses conservatives everywhere...unfortunately she, along with good 'ol boy Rush are the voice of the right....at least that's what THEY tell us...anyway...I was just concerned because I have read many a comment on this site that would have included that statement as a true desire and the whole discussion centered around how awful women were being treated....so....we all good?

Posted by: teebee at July 17, 2007 10:18 PM

I saw it with my friend who writes reviews for e online, we gave it an F. The rottentomatoes tagline, "it sure beats hearing that you've got cancer." Although, at some point it just became laughably bad for me, though I am quite macabe, and, for the ninety seconds he was onscreen, the fat brother was really good.

Posted by: brandon at July 17, 2007 11:58 PM

this movie was awful and predictable, but your review was even worse. its kinda like people getting self-righteous and calling for the execution of mass murderers. taking a stand against obviously offensive material isnt really all that interesting.

Posted by: spleen at July 18, 2007 7:05 AM

Rich at fourfour tore you a new one, Dustin. I'd suggest checking it out.

It'll be a humbling experience.

Posted by: David at July 18, 2007 10:21 AM

Thanks for this. I'll never understand the warped "wait, this isn't woman-hating because of the one scene" logic.

Posted by: Hannah at July 18, 2007 12:25 PM

teebee, we good.

Posted by: nexus 6 at July 18, 2007 2:07 PM

Wow! Whatta review! This movie got some real bad reviews, but this is the best best bad review I've read, of anything really, in quite a long time! First time to your site, and I know I'll be back.

Posted by: Rose at July 18, 2007 2:12 PM

I applaud you for this. I can only hope that this review can stop the insanity of these types of movies. Seriously, it disturbs me out that people actually enjoy watching these films.

Posted by: Tara at July 18, 2007 7:54 PM

....welllll i can't say i'd feel close to a shred of remorse at all if half of those nasty things we've been talking about happened to Ann Coulter... sorry if that makes me an asshole?

Posted by: matt at July 18, 2007 9:13 PM

Your sanctimonious, self-righteous review has made me unbelievably excited to go and see this pile of claptrap. I'm a bit weary of the torture-porn genre, as well, but what even more tiresome is the hysterical hand-wringing and self-congratulatory moralizing that inevitably come with the reviews of these films. Strangely enough, horrible, ghastly, awful things occur in horror films...and then we have to hear reviewers bemoan the fact that there was something icky and wretched took place in a horror movie. If we were back in the Paris of the late 1800's, you'd probably be standing outside the Grand Guignol, crying about the "atrocities" that were being enacted inside. The humor of someone reacting this vehemently and hysterically about a film that sounds so utterly, obviously calculated to provoke and incense is priceless.

Posted by: Roman Totale at July 18, 2007 9:33 PM

Cheers, Dustin. You are truly one of the good ones. And thank god for all of y'all that are hating on this movie, for all the right reasons--there is hope yet.

People who like movies like this ARE the terrorists.

Posted by: Vi at July 18, 2007 11:38 PM

pretty much all you ranting raving skids who sit on here talking about stupid bullshit all I want to know is it a good movie or not? I dont want peoples reviews who havent even seen the movie but think its stupid anyways do you always go by somebody elses perspective? SO THE QUESTION IS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN 'CAPTIVITY' IS IT A MOVIE TO SEE IN THE THEATRE OR NO?

Posted by: Kelly at July 19, 2007 12:17 AM

"Please tell me what possible value, artistic or entertainment, that this sort of scene has."

...er, go see it in its context?

Posted by: matt at July 19, 2007 5:06 AM

Call me crazy, but isn't it weird that the "torture porn" genre didn't really get going until Amwerica started admitting that we torture people and like it?

This war is destroying us all.

Posted by: Erik Swanson at July 19, 2007 7:53 AM

man that review was ace!!!!

I am going to post it on my blog and link it back to you..... this needs to be heard!!!

these films are just plain crap! bull a load of bullshit!

wow what a twist!!

like the late great bill hick said "a huh huh will thar bee titties in it!"

man!!!

peace

G

Posted by: graemephillips at July 19, 2007 7:59 AM

thank you for this review. crucial.

Posted by: kate at July 19, 2007 9:26 AM

Jesus, that review was scarier than the film looks. Elisha Cuthbert is definitely in Kim Bauer-mode when it comes to her career, as in everything she touches turns to suck. Thanks for saving my soul.

Posted by: The VZA at July 19, 2007 2:53 PM

The phrase "torture porn" has only come out in the last few years, but movies just like these have been around since long before the Iraq war. Try again...

Posted by: canology at July 20, 2007 5:01 AM

Matt said:

....welllll i can't say i'd feel close to a shred of remorse at all if half of those nasty things we've been talking about happened to Ann Coulter... sorry if that makes me an asshole?

Yeah, that makes you an asshole. Why the fuck is it OK to torture people who don't agree with you politically? What sort of fucked up world do you want to live in? Torture is only misogynistic if it happens to non-conservative women?
I'm gonna promote you from "asshole" to "fucking idiot".

Posted by: canology at July 20, 2007 5:08 AM

Let me be blunt for one moment...

half of you motherfucking people havent even seen this movie so you all have no room to say anything about it.
personally i havent seen it either but im not sitting there taling crap about it and you all are. why dont you actually whatch it before you act all smart alec and agree just to look cool. If you have seen nothing but the trailer then why are you even saying 1 word about that movie?! hu?! huh?! why dont you leave a smart alec comment to that?! huh?! yeah try again.
~sierra

Posted by: sierra at July 21, 2007 3:46 AM

Let me be blunt for one moment...

half of you motherfucking people havent even seen this movie so you all have no room to say anything about it.
personally i havent seen it either but im not sitting there taling crap about it and you all are. why dont you actually whatch it before you act all smart alec and agree just to look cool. If you have seen nothing but the trailer then why are you even saying 1 word about that movie?! hu?! huh?! why dont you leave a smart alec comment to that?! huh?! yeah try again.
~sierra

Posted by: sierra at July 21, 2007 3:49 AM

Okay, let me be blunt for one moment. Half of you motherfucking people havent even seen Captivity so why the fuck are you sitting there talking shit about a movie that you havent even seen?! Its bullshit. Good job or nice burn or whatever the fuck you want to hear goes out to all that have seen the movie and are giving bad reviews. I personally havent seen this movie but im also not going to sit here and act all tough and say shit about it. Some of you dicks are saying that you saw the trailer and all this other bullshit excuses. Just because you see the fucking trailer of a movie doesnt mean that you saw the whole fucking thing so dont fucking act like you have and give and review on the damn movie because you have NO PLACE to judge it until you have seen all 90 min. of the fuckin thing. This shit is fucking pissing me off to no end. Who the hell do some of you people think you are? Yeah its fine to give your honest opinion on a movie...IF YOUV SEEN IT!!! Okay. Yeah I know that some of you have seen it and you are only giving an opinion, which you have a right to, but all the rest of you are only going by there opinion and thats bullshit too. All of this is bullshit. We all have our own opinion and this was mine about all your dick-ass, bullshit, fucked-up, lame-ass,fake comments on Captivity.
-sierra

Posted by: sierra at July 21, 2007 5:28 AM

what?!
now none of you flakes want to comment anymore because you know im talking about you.
thats what you should of done a long time ago.
your just a bunch of bitchy people just like you all are listed online.
its really funny.
you all are talking about this movie but you dont even realize everyone else is talking about you.
saying some of the same stuff i just did.
its a real sad shame.
your all just a bunch of cowards.
-sierra

Posted by: sierra at July 21, 2007 1:35 PM

Hey sierra, I think they aren't commenting anymore because this is a week-old review and nobody is reading it any more.

Besides, what the heck did you expect after starting things off by calling everyone a bunch of whiny, bitchy motherfucking lemmings? Most people don't bother responding to Australopithecine rants, especially when they are obviously being provoked.

Oh, and when you are leaving comments and there are words that are underlined, it means that they are misspelled. That way you won't have to post three times trying to get it right!

Posted by: canology at July 21, 2007 8:56 PM

I just watched an AMC Moviefest interview with the film's screenwriter, Larry Cohen. This is verbatim what he had to say when asked upon whom the main character is based.

"She's a character that was inspired by Paris Hilton. I'll come out and admit it. She's a spoiled brat, model, actress, who has really no talent, who's gotten by on publicity. She slapped a cop one time, and got herself on the front pages. She deserves what she's gonna get. This is like Paris Hilton's brief incarceration, exaggerated one thousand fold. This is the kind of prison that everybody wishes Paris Hilton had been sent to."

I have several issues here with this. I know there is this perception that Paris has "no talent, has gotten by on publicity." I totally disagree. I think she's a major talent. She is an artist, a smart business woman, has earned millions. She works hard & parties hard. Like millions of people. She has certainly entertained a hell of a lot of people over the years.

As far as this "slapped a cop" bit goes, Paris has done nothing remotely like that at all. No one can deny that she's always cooperative with the authorities. Even when they won't leave her alone, as they are constantly stopping her to hit on her. As she is wont to say, "We love the police."

As for this kind of small, narrow-minded, cruel thinking and mentality, I believe it but I don't understand it, refuse to accept it. This wanting to punish, to death-wish someone who has hurt no one. This kind of misogyny. All because you don't like her lifestyle, her freedom. Mind your own damn business then. Just because the media talks a lot about someone you don't appreciate, you are not forced to pay attention.

It is really just hate fronting for jealousy.

I could go on & on but Mr Rowles's scathingly brilliant review of the movie does justice just nicely. If I mean by nicely that he makes me feel his painful torture at seeing hers, of enduring this painfully tortured movie-going experience, then harrowing hell yes.

Posted by: thewaymouth at July 23, 2007 12:47 AM

".....I have several issues here with this. I know there is this perception that Paris has "no talent, has gotten by on publicity." I totally disagree. I think she's a major talent. She is an artist, a smart business woman, has earned millions. She works hard & parties hard. Like millions of people. She has certainly entertained a hell of a lot of people over the years........"

Are you out of your FUCKING MIND?!?!??!

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 23, 2007 2:09 PM

Elisha Cuthbert is a crappy actress with even poorer judgment in choosing roles/casting agents. This movie will certainly solidify her status on the C-list.

Posted by: ClassicHorrorFan at July 24, 2007 10:52 AM

"*Spoilers here on out, for the douchebag degenerates that actually want to see this bullshit.*"

Don´t you think it´s fucking stupid to assume that you have to be a "degenerate" if you want to see a certain movie, no matter how bad or tasteless or whatever it is?

Obviously you are a fan of censorship and want to control what other people are watching. Because OF COURSE they have to be sick perverts if they want to see something you don´t approve of. Do you agree with every movies "message" that you are seeing and want to either reenact it later or get off on it? Surely nobody will just watch a movie to watch a movie. No, everybody who wants to see a brutal tasteless film has to be a freak. Now let´s pray for all the sinners and burn some books. Praise the lord.

Posted by: Thomas at July 25, 2007 8:07 AM

Honestly, I know this is probably mild-seeming to some people here, but I felt this way about Se7en. Also about the first five minutes of Joan of Arc. This type of horrifying, dehumanizing "torture porn" is not good, even in small doses. It's even more disgusting that, now, they make full-length, mainstream movies about it. I bet if you ask the filmmakers, they'll say they have to compete with the Internet, or that consumers want this type of thing, or whatever.

All I know is that there must be a moral absolute somewhere, a stopping-place at some point, before we collectively drown in our own excrement.

I refuse to support movies like this, and I hope other people (lots of other people) feel the same.

Posted by: peggy nature at July 29, 2007 8:03 PM

Thank you.

Posted by: Lea at August 3, 2007 4:41 AM

Ha ha ha, I won...

Posted by: mutterhals at August 9, 2007 12:38 PM

Personally, I'd like to thank you for writing this review, because it makes me want to see this film even more! And it makes me laugh, because I know some of you will call me a "sick, degenerate" for saying that. Horror films/torture films/etc, are made for one purpose....to make people uneasy. If you throw in a little message or center the story around a singular metaphor, then you weren't truly focused on scaring people in the first place.
I'm GLAD they're making films like this and NOT focusing on cliché messages or metaphors in the films. That's what makes films like Friday the 13th and Halloween such CLASSIC horror films....you don't have to analyze anything or pay attention. You just watch, and get scared.
I'm glad horror/thriller films are starting to FINALLY become offensive, again.

Posted by: Nick at August 27, 2007 5:12 PM

I saw the movie I liked the movie! Sure it's brutal and even offensive but that is why it's called A FUCKING MOVIE!!! If you don't like it don't watch it you piece of shit!

Posted by: FUCKALLOFYOU at August 31, 2007 12:30 PM

You Dustin would certainly be one of the motherfuckers I wouldn't mind blowing the brains out of! Suck on that you fuckin idiot!

Posted by: Impaler1027 at August 31, 2007 12:44 PM

WOW....this was the most hilarious and yet at the same time most disturbing thing i've seen in quite a long time....And no, I'm not talking about the movie. I am in fact talking about this movie review. This guy thinks the movie reached a new low in the torture genre, worse than all the SAW movies or the Hostels?! Are you kidding me? Has the reviewer even seen this movie or is he being desensetized by his misguided sense of morality. And people are thanking and agreeing with him blindly and admit to not seeing it. The movie is possibly the worst movie I have ever seen, and yes, the plot does assume a misoginistic approach. But this is the made for tv version of SAW, watered down, without the gore. To take this on as the exemplary genre pit pottom depravity exhibit is just ridiculous.

I was waiting for the unexpected twist at the end of the review in whih he would reveal he was being sarcastic but this was not the case. The review did manage to be worse than the movie itself, a feat I figured impossible after seeing it. To avoid having such a low opinion of this reviewer, I will assume that it was misposted, as the review must have been intended to be posted under the Hostel 2 review page. Or worse, he is only creating hype that will for sure be unrequited by the non-"frat boy" audience. Who knows, maybe the movie's marketing people sent him a free poster....

Posted by: Dan at September 1, 2007 10:27 PM

People who enjoy watching torture are fucking sick loser sons of bitches. There's no message here. You just get off on it and you're trying to justify it. Freaks.

Posted by: Sara at September 4, 2007 2:38 AM

I thought about seeing this movie, but now i don't have a single desire to. I thought Saw was fucked up, but not this way. Your right, no one should make movies that show rape and pain of women (or anyone else for that matter). I am a Elshia Cuthbert fan (due to the severe 24 addiction i have developed), but this disapoints me that she would do a movie such as this.

Posted by: Karl at September 5, 2007 3:30 PM

awesome review man, fuckin awesome

Posted by: joejoe at September 6, 2007 5:26 PM

I am dying to see this movie

Posted by: Md.asif at October 10, 2007 12:27 AM

I couldn't have enjoyed a movie more than I enjoyed this one. My 3 year old was equally thrilled. You are probably right however in your review. We need more movies about fag and lesbian relationships,inter-racial relationships and bullshit mockumentries on "global warming." It's ALL relative.

Posted by: Gerhardt at October 28, 2007 11:53 AM

i'm sorry but what the FUCK???

Ok yes, I agree with Dustins review, i haven't seen this film and I have no urges to see it to be perfectly honest but wtf??

PEOPLE.HAVE.NO.OPINIONS of their own on this site. I just read about some girl who was handing in her notice because she'd "seen the light" thanks to dustins review. The guy is a fucking film critic. Can you not make up your own mind about dressing up like a slut and taking notes off "scum". In actual fact I think YOU lady are the scum for taking money off NORMAL men who are just going to see a piece of ass. What the hell is wrong with you!

So yes this is torture porn and yes dustin your review is just going to spark such a shitstorm that people are going to FLOCK to it!! I think this whole fucking thing is a setup! you accept their advert, you write a shitty review.....reverse psychology becuase all the little college kids are gonna be "omg she drinks organs......i wanna see!!". Fuck me this is weak. WEAK.

Posted by: Oh.fuck.off at October 29, 2007 7:23 PM

I want to see this movie even more after reading the bullshit,I have heard about this horror movie,For christ sakes you morons,It's only a horror movie,Trust me I have seen worse,This is like alice in wonder land compared to some horror movies I have seen so get a life and get a brain,Dip shits.(Grow Up)~Crazy Dragon~

Posted by: Crazy Dragon at January 8, 2008 3:06 PM