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Borat / Daniel Carlson

Film Reviews | November 4, 2006 | Comments (135)


There’s no point in beating around the bush, so I’ll just get this out of the way up top: Borat made me laugh till I cried. I can’t promise I won’t get all thoughtful and interprety on you later in the review, but know this: Borat is soaringly hilarious and completely irresistible. I shuddered with tears of joy many times during the film’s brief 84 minutes, struggling to regain my composure in an effort to hear what was happening onscreen. In an era where ironic hipster detachment has all but taken over modern humor — think of how McSweeney’s aims for a smug nod of approval more than actual laughter — Borat offers the kind of skull-smashing guffaws that are all too rare in movies. For the nine of you who’ve been living in a cave on Mars with your fingers in your ears for the past few months, Borat is the comic creation of Sacha Baron Cohen, the British-born and Cambridge-educated actor and writer responsible for HBO’s short-lived “Da Ali G Show,” in which he assumed various alter egos and interviewed unsuspecting U.S. citizens. Among these was Borat Sagdiyev, a TV reporter from Kazakhstan with a hatred of Jews and ridiculously broken English. After flopping with the feature Ali G Indahouse a few years ago, Baron Cohen turned to the Borat character. The resulting faux-documentary, whose complete title is Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan, is a stunning success, the kind of extreme satire that aims for the gut and skewers any and all that cross its path. It’s also, I should repeat, the funniest movie you’ll see all year.

The film’s brief prologue features Borat showing off his village to the camera crew, including his prostitute sister, with whom Borat shares a firm open-mouthed kiss. Much has been made recently of Baron Cohen’s relentless mocking of Kazakhstan, but politics has nothing to do with it: The fact is that most people couldn’t find Kazakhstan on a map. It’s the perfect place for Borat to call home because, while viewers will likely know Baron Cohen is only joking when we see a cow living in Borat’s house or a car being pulled by a horse, there’s just enough alienness in our perceptions of that part of the world for the jokes to have an uneasy smell of half-truth, as if things really might have been that bad there just a few years ago.

Borat’s government dispatches him to the United States to make a documentary about what he finds there, which is all the impetus needed to get the story going: Soon enough, Borat and his producer, Azamat (Ken Davitian), have landed in New York City, and the film is off and running. Some of the footage is captured on hidden cameras, like the moment on the subway when Borat drops his suitcase and accidentally releases a chicken. These are the best parts of the film, and stand in marked contrast to the plotted scenes that director Larry Charles (“Seinfeld,” “Curb Your Enthusiasm”) inevitably has to use to shape the flimsy narrative. There are no fewer than four screenwriters credited: Baron Cohen, Anthony Hines, Peter Baynham, and Dan Mazer, three of whom also are given story credits along with Todd Phillips (Old School), the film’s original director, who dropped out early in production. All that creative muscle has produced a remarkably thin narrative, but it’s not for lack of talent. Rather, the problem is assuming that a film like this would even need a strong, driving storyline. The glory of the Borat skits from Baron Cohen’s TV work was their willful lack of existential examination: For better of worse, they just simply were. Watching Azamat groom Borat for an interview is funny enough, but without the unwitting participation of an interview subject, the scenes lack the punch of the rest of the film. Borat is at its best when it’s just Borat.

That plot, such as it is, involves Borat’s sudden desire to flee New York for California, allowing for a memorable road trip across the country. Baron Cohen is gifted enough to carry the film through the stitched-together interviews and set pieces in which Borat learns to drive, buys a car, and spends time with various groups and clubs as he journeys across the American South. The reactions he elicits from some of the interviewees are priceless: When Borat asks a car salesman what kind of vehicle would attract a woman who is “shaved,” the dealer doesn’t miss a beat before responding, “Well, that would be a Corvette.” Mining such gold nuggets for all they’re worth, Baron Cohen pushes the envelope in every situation, inducing cringes and gasps as he violates pretty much every rule of what is considered polite society. I’m being purposefully vague here, and not just because there’s simply too much in the film to recap, but because I don’t want to spoil anything. Besides, transcribed to paper, most of the jokes look too flat and simple to work; it’s only on the screen that Baron Cohen hammers them home.

This is not to say that the entire film is some extended exercise in exploring the inherent prejudices that a lot of Americans seem to have; this is, after all, a comedy, and Baron Cohen is determined to get just as many miles out of poop jokes as he is a thought-provoking exchange about the role of U.S. minorities. But the physical gross-outs — particularly the jaw-dropping scene in which Borat and Azamat wrestle naked — aren’t signs of two different Borats, but two halves of the same whole. The intellectual comic and the physical jackass are the same guy, and it works for Baron Cohen: The startlingly open moments of emotional honesty seem to have more effect once your guard’s been lowered by his peculiar brand of slapstick. Baron Cohen fully inhabits the character of Borat, riffing on anything and everything. His funniest lines are the ones that play up the character as a superstitious dolt, as when he sees a Barbie doll at a garage sale and asks the proprietor, “Who is this woman you have shrunk?” He gets away with it all because Southerners pride themselves on politeness, and watching them square off against such a boor is exquisitely uncomfortable.

The screening I attended was packed, which is unusual for a matinee, though maybe not so strange for Hollywood, where there are plenty of young, unemployed actors with nothing better to do than go to the movies. But I think it’s more than that. The full house lapped up the comedy, but not because Baron Cohen is simply the flavor of the month. Rather, he got that way by offering a harsh brand of subversive comedy that’s so offensive, that so cuts to the core of our darkest prejudices, that most people don’t even try it. Borat’s anti-Semitism is an outrageous caricature that, by its very extremity, points out the absurdity of only slightly milder actual anti-Semitism.

As amazing as the movie is, Borat is clearly a one-way ticket for Baron Cohen. “Borat” used to be a below-the-radar codeword for a small group of people familiar with the comedian’s work, but the film’s scope and exposure have surely put an end to that. But it’s clear from his commitment to the role that Baron Cohen knew all that going in, and was determined to go out in a brilliant blaze of glory. It worked.

Daniel Carlson is the managing editor of Pajiba and a low-level employee at a Hollywood industry magazine. You can visit his blog, Slowly Going Bald.


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Comments

I just saw this today, and my God it was fucking brilliant. I'm reviewing it for my school paper. I was just so impressed. The whole sequence at the car dealership was just so brilliant

Posted by: Joe at November 3, 2006 9:32 PM

Hilarious movie! The audience was laughing so hard during the wrestling scene that I worried some of them might pass out or hurt themselves.

Good work has been done with this film :D

Posted by: AD at November 3, 2006 9:49 PM

The boyfriend went to see it this evening after work with some friends as I wasn't too keen, but after reading this, I might have to reevaluate.

Posted by: Taryn at November 3, 2006 9:51 PM

A-mazing. I went in slightly skeptical because I am usually pretty sensitive to off-color jokes, but those provided in this film were so over the top that I forgot to be outraged and just laughed till my sides hurt.

Posted by: Rachel at November 3, 2006 10:05 PM

It was, without question, the funniest movie I have ever seen. I have never laughed so hard in my life. I was almost falling out of my seat during the "naked wrestling" bit. NOTHING I have even seen before compared to that. It was so simple, it was brilliant.

Posted by: Ash at November 3, 2006 10:16 PM

Yea...I would go see this movie, but I think I liked the shtick better when it was done by Yakov Smirnoff in the 80's.

Posted by: Renee at November 3, 2006 11:40 PM

ooooh, you're so clever, you referenced yakov smirnoff.

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at November 4, 2006 10:26 AM

The poster didn't imply that Yakov Smirnoff was an obscure Tolstoy character. Borat = Joe Dirt with an accent.

Posted by: Arf at November 4, 2006 11:18 AM

Joe Dirt = Borat - social satire - humor

Posted by: Adam at November 4, 2006 3:24 PM

You know, I know it's all very hip to hate something that's gotten to much press and so many people like, but this isn't Blue Collar Comedy Tour or Yes, Dear. It's the fucking Peter Sellers or Andy Kaufman of our generation. At the very least, it's funny. It makes you laugh. At the very most, it's insightful and makes you examine your own prejudices. So in conclusion, all the Borat-haters can suck a dick.

Posted by: Boorat at November 4, 2006 4:40 PM

You saw Yakov Smirnoff in his prime? How old are you?

Posted by: Steve at November 4, 2006 4:41 PM

Man, I totally hated this film. Really. I probably laughed about three times. My boyfriend found it hysterical.

Guess I need to go get my sense of humor checked. I wonder when it broke...

Posted by: Miranda at November 4, 2006 5:54 PM

crap, I didn't even know the guy had a prime. In twentieth century he tells jokes. In twenty first century, he IS the joke.

Posted by: Me at November 4, 2006 5:55 PM

Hey Miranda, it sounds like your boyfriend needs to dump your humorless ass!

Posted by: Paco at November 4, 2006 8:28 PM

I saw this a few months ago for free at one of those myspace screenings.

This movie has something funny for everyone. Everything is just so damn outrageous and over-the-top, you just have to laugh at yourself and your own silly little prejudices.

Viva Borat

Posted by: Alexa at November 4, 2006 10:10 PM

I'm pretty sure Y. Smirnoff has made a second life for himself as a painter. I think his work features predominantly-- if not completely, themes of inspirational Americana.

Posted by: M at November 5, 2006 12:11 AM

"After flopping with the feature Ali G Indahouse a few years ago, Baron Cohen turned to the Borat character."

This is incorrect. Borat was a character even from the early British Ali G shows.

He burned through his British suspects/unwitting participants with all 3 characters (Gay Austrian, Borat and Ali G).

He then turned to the US...

Ali G spent 2 seasons on HBO - but they don't have ratings per se. Cohen's work on those episodes is genius.

The British character mind exhibits more temperance e.g. Extras has had on 12 episodes and is now done. (Season 2 of Extras is a TV masterpiece) We Americans tend to stay way past our comedic welcome...e.g. Weekend at Bernies 2! - Policy Acadamy 5!, SNL season 32 ... or whatever it is now.

SBC has not worn out his welcome - he will emerge elsewhere.

I would give massive kudos to Mazar though - his work on Dog Bites Man on Comedy Central - fricking hilarious.

Posted by: cc at November 5, 2006 12:52 AM

It seems Groucho Marx's looks, and Chico Marx's stereotypical ethnic schtick, figures heavily into the Borat character.



I don't have a problem with this because Milton Berle never met a joke he didn't steal, and I'm more than willing to appeal to Uncle Miltie's authority. In Borat, Baron Cohen has stolen from the best of the best, and I'm not talking about the unexplained phenomenon that is Yakoff Smirnoff.



Yes, this entire Borat gig is essentially a vaudeville routine of the Marx variety. Plenty of slapstick, a funny dialect reliant on mispronunciations and misunderstandings, ethnic humor, and a bit of music, all wrapped up into one gangly, hairy man crossing America like the proverbial fish outta water, just as the Marx Brothers were in plenty of their films.



Borat is a classic character, if not 100% original, but it works because Sacha Baron Cohen is a very smart and funny man. I hope he wrecks the box office in the next few weeks.

Posted by: Hank at November 5, 2006 1:06 AM

Basically, it was the most exhausting movie ever. Me and my entire party laughed so hard that we could barely breathe. Most hilarious thing I've seen at a movie theatre in years

Posted by: madams at November 5, 2006 1:44 AM

I laughed until I hyperventilated. We went last night to a midnight showing and the theatre was STILL crowded. I might have to see it again because I think I missed some parts from the roaring laughter all around me.

Posted by: tetetetigi at November 5, 2006 11:30 AM

Dudes this movie is so fucking funny high

Posted by: EB at November 5, 2006 12:06 PM

Sorta what I got from watching Borat, too, Hank. The Marx brothers influence really struck me as I've been reading one of Groucho's biographies lately. Sacha possesses loads of insight and intelligence, which is what separates the truly comedic greats from the rest of the masses.

The movie, frankly, was a bit disappointing, but had moments of brilliance. The best of Borat's wit is captured in similar-situation segments of 'Da Ali G Show,' as well as some of what shows up on the net. Scenes from a couple TV ads weren't in the movie at all, so I'm waiting to *rent* the DVD to see if the scenes appear as cut scene extras. Fingers crossed, but the American movie industry as of late ruins almost everything it touches.....and Borat didn't escape that.

Posted by: HopkinsBella at November 5, 2006 12:32 PM

Lines were so impossibly crossed with this movie.

Wow . . . !

I expect an onslaught of bad imitations in the months and weeks to come. None of them will ever equal it.

Posted by: John at November 5, 2006 4:33 PM

2 of my favorie things about this movie were somewhat understated, relatively speaking.

First, the scene in the Pentacostal Church. The situation itself is so ridiculous and absurd that Borat need only be swept up into it for it to be comedic. You can't say he mocked Christianity. It mocked itself in this presentation.

The other thing that killed me: when a despondent Borat drops his bag on the sidewalk and the chicken inside clucks. You forget all about the chicken after the jaw dropping interaction with the frat boys, but there it is again. I beleive I snorted. Deep in my soul and out loud.

Posted by: Louise at November 5, 2006 6:34 PM

The reviewer was not suggesting that Cohen created Borat after the film "Ali G IndaHouse" flopped at the box office. He was saying that after the film built around his Ali G character flopped, he decided to mine the Borat character's big screen potential. Learn to read before criticizing the reviewer.

Posted by: Uh-uh at November 5, 2006 6:39 PM

Yea, I agree with John that there's going to be TONS of Borat impressions in the next few (or more) months. It's going to be like Group X all over again.

Posted by: Renee at November 6, 2006 12:11 AM

This was a really funny film with to many priceless moments to recount. My husband laughed so hard he started chocking. Luckily he didn't die!

Posted by: suzy at November 6, 2006 12:21 AM

My favorite scene was the one in the antique shop. I was dying.

Posted by: boobaloob at November 6, 2006 12:28 AM

Instead of coming to my house for Thanksgiving, my mother is taking a BUS from CANADA to see Yakov Smirnov. Nofuckingkidding.

My God, I really am in hell!!! What did I ever do...?

Posted by: Robb at November 6, 2006 2:36 AM

I absolutely agree with the review - I laughed until my face hurt. I'm not sure all the other theatre patrons were taking it the same way though... two couples walked out during the naked wrestling scene. Weird. Long live Borat!

Posted by: Ayn at November 6, 2006 8:51 AM

This is what I wanted to see Friday night and we saw "Saw III" instead.

Posted by: Noelegy at November 6, 2006 10:00 AM

This is either a stupid question or a compliment to SBC, but: Was Pam in on it?

Posted by: Captain Cliche at November 6, 2006 10:02 AM

This is either a stupid question or a compliment to SBC, but: Was Pam in on it?

That was totally my question too! She didn't seem like she was at all, but surely he would have been arrested for that if she wasn't.

Posted by: roses at November 6, 2006 11:19 AM

I laughed so hard during this movie I was making weird noises and my face was sore afterward. The naked wrestling made me squirm in my seat, and SBC and Davitian's total commitment to the scene was brilliant. Funniest scene in a movie in a loooong time. And Borat's unabashed fear and hatred of the Jewish race is so over the top (and seemingly based not on reality or experience but on all the generic stereotypes we know), you can't help but laugh.
One other thing: Comparing the Borat character to Yakov Smirnov is completely ridiculous. May as well compare Dane Cook to George Carlin, right? I mean, they both do observational humor and they're both American. Same thing, right? Wrong.

Posted by: Kballs at November 6, 2006 12:11 PM

"And Borat's unabashed fear and hatred of the Jewish race is so over the top (and seemingly based not on reality or experience but on all the generic stereotypes we know)"

Hmm... with a name like Sacha Baron Cohen - you'd think his anti-semitism would be genuine?

Posted by: WandringSoul at November 6, 2006 12:26 PM

I've noticed the anti-semitism come up a few times, with people seeming to carefully forgive him for it or kind of wonder where he's going with it. Maybe I'm not giving people here enough credit, but y'all do realize he's Jewish, right? I can't tell from what's being written if people realize this and are wondering what he's doing with it or whatever, or if they don't realize it and are wondering how he can get away with it.

Btw, SBC is a genius but man does he ever make me squirm. I'm not sure if the discomfort is worth the laughs, but I'll probably check this out at some point.

Posted by: Eep at November 6, 2006 12:33 PM

"...there's just enough alienness in our perceptions of that part of the world for the jokes to have an uneasy smell of half-truth..."



I've been to Kazakhstan and I can tell you that there are uneasy smells all over the place. ;-)

Posted by: Jelinas at November 6, 2006 1:17 PM

I'm in the distinct minority here, but I was thoroughly disappointed with the movie. Most of the jokes were stupid, at best. Example: when he goes into an antiques shop and starts breaking things. OHMYGODTHATSFUNNY!...NOT!

Also, while he inflicts himself on real people in his show, the majority of these people were actors. The frat boys? The antique-shop owners? The Jewish couple? Pamela Andeson? All of these people were obviously actors (with the debatable exception of Pam).

I sat in the theater, listening to uproarious laughter (at an Ivy League school, no less) and couldn't help but think, "do these morons find this funny?"

I promptly went home and watched an episode of Arrested Development.

Posted by: George at November 6, 2006 4:45 PM

Dear "Ivy League" George,

Your aside: "(at an Ivy League school, no less)" shows you to be a snobby pseudo-intellectual asshole. No wonder you didn't think it was funny.

Shouldn't you be swilling sherry or doing whatever it is you people like to do instead of mingling with the unwashed masses at a movie theater?

Posted by: Not George at November 6, 2006 6:11 PM

Kudos to a film that actually made me cover my hyper self-aware, overly ironic, desensitized generation Y eyes in shock, and that forced me to peek through my fingers out of sheer awe and delight. A fun and, yes, excruciatingly uncomfortable movie-going experience.

Posted by: Becca at November 6, 2006 7:48 PM

Dear Sir,

I didn't state that I attend an Ivy League school, only that I watched a movie at one.

In fact, this movie was nothing more than an excuse for "pseudo-intellectual assholes" to laugh at the "unwashed masses" of America. You'll note that Borat didn't make his cross-country trek through those noted conservative hotbeds of New England, Michigan, Illinois, Washington, and Oregon. No, he chose to lampoon the already-lampooned-to-death South. (As I recall, Andy Kaufman did these jokes roughly thirty years ago.)

A key component of humor is the difference between what the audience expects and what transpires. At a rodeo in Texas, I'd lay fairly good odds that a great many people are uneducated, racist, drunk, or all of the above. The obviousness of this situation deprives it of any humor, because the audience already expects this.

My major quibble with this movie was that there was no cleverness to it. Singing that Kazakhstan is the greatest country on earth to a group of patriots will provoke boos anywhere. There was nothing original about that scene (or most of the movie), only the always-present belief in casual liberals that Americans ought to silently accede to insults. That he did it to a group of rodeo-goers to provoke your laughter only proves your prejudice, not their stupidity.

It goes without saying that a similar analysis can be made about nearly every scene in the movie.

Posted by: Not Not George at November 6, 2006 8:04 PM

Wait, Yakov Smirnoff has a prime?

I think a better comparison is Andy Kaufman, because Baron Cohen's victims don't realize that they're the joke.

Posted by: rekkedhog at November 6, 2006 8:41 PM

Re : The reason I compared Cohen's character Borat to Yakov Smirnoff is due to the fact that the two of them are only well-known because they're "foreigners" who act all befuddled about American practices. That and Borat's voice is a dead-ringer for Yakov's.

Posted by: Renee at November 6, 2006 8:48 PM

Comparing Sacha Baron Cohen to Yakov Smirnoff is like comparing Andy Kaufman to Dane Cook.

Posted by: Ray at November 6, 2006 8:56 PM

George, what you see is what you get with Borat...I'm really surprised you decided to even watch it and took it so seriously that you didn't even let yourself enjoy it. Basically, it's a similar argument that people like yourself use against the Daily Show, that it's not news therefore not to be taken seriously at all. well Borat is essentially Sasha Cohen, a comedian, and not a satirist (like Stephen Colbert), who is making fun of the U.S., and mostly the South, because it's easier to make fun of it (as Andy Kaufman did before him) and that's mostly been the focus of his previous work on the Ali G show. So what? What's your point? Borat is an ignorant, hilarious Kazahk bumpkin weeding his way through the ignorant masses in the U.S...the film is a mere extension of that premise. He merely reflects the prejuidice that exists. It's not like it's meant to be this deep satire on American life. That would take too much time, it's just about Borat and the stupid Americans he meets along the way, and reminds us to lighten up and get with the program.

Posted by: Gina at November 6, 2006 9:03 PM

The rodeo wasn't in Texas, it was in Georgia.

Posted by: Marie Laveau at November 6, 2006 9:26 PM

Actually, I think the rodeo was in Virginia.

Posted by: Jessica at November 6, 2006 11:12 PM

Except that it's not ignorant Americans he meets along the way. The people he meets, with a very few exceptions, are actors. When you take into account that this was a screenplay, with writers, actors, directors, and one comedian, it's a lot less interesting.

That's not to say that there aren't loads and loads of ignorant Americans, but we already knew that. It just seems like he picked the lowest-hanging fruit he could find.

I talked to my friend about this, and while he enjoyed the movie, he admitted there was a collective element to the affair. That is, everyone else was laughing, so he did as well.

Think for a moment about the actual jokes that appear in this movie. A man breaking china in a (fake) antiques shop? Two men wrestling without their clothes? Referring to a black man as a "chocolate-face?" Pulling your pants down and trying to check into a nice hotel? Really? Is this what comedy has come to?

Imagine if this was presented as a straight-up movie, without the Kazakh schtick overlaid? It would be a film for children, and rather retarded children at that. (Not to coin a word from Borat.)

Posted by: George at November 7, 2006 12:54 AM

George,

According to IMDb, there are only 4 actors (including Pam Anderson) in this movie. So unless a couple hundred actors chose to remain uncredited, those were actual, real Americans (igonorant or otherwise) who were not in on the joke in those scenes.

Posted by: Tammy at November 7, 2006 11:09 AM

Way to go Tammy. I was going to point out the same thing. On the Today show yesterday, they said that no one in the movie was clued in to what he was doing. They were actual, true life interactions with every day people. So George, basically, you're just wrong. And if you were expecting anything more than what the movie actually was, then you're just uninformed. I think the rest of the US saw the trailors for the movie and new exactly what to expect. So, everyone, let's cut George a little slack...he's not the brightest bulb in the pack, it appears.

The movie was priceless and I will be buying the DVD in the hopes that there are plenty of extra edited scenes included. I saw the movie on opening night (Friday) and my face still hurts from laughing so much. Is it possible to pull a facial muscle?

Posted by: Helcat at November 7, 2006 11:40 AM

On another note: my favorite scene is when he's learning to drive and the instructor tells him he can't pull over and have sex with any woman he wants b/c in THIS country, women have the right to chose who they have sex with.

Borat's response: WHAT????

I laughed so hard I almost threw up on myself!

Posted by: Helcat at November 7, 2006 11:42 AM

I apologize for missing the point on the actors. Clearly, I'm wrong.

However, you haven't addressed my main argument, which concerns the stupidity of the material presented.

Can you honestly say that a grotesquely fat man wrestling with a slightly less grotesque one is comedy? Is it funnier that they're naked?

What about a white man going up to a group of black men and asking how to act like them?

For god's sake people, anyone with a pulse can think of this. That he has a thick mustache and speaks with an accent doesn't make Borat funny.

Posted by: George at November 7, 2006 11:52 AM

"For god's sake people, anyone with a pulse can think of this. That he has a thick mustache and speaks with an accent doesn't make Borat funny. " Actually, if anyone can think of it, why hasn't anyone before? And, to be honest, the mustache and the accent DOES make it funny. It's not the only funny thing, but it's a part of the whole package.

"Can you honestly say that a grotesquely fat man wrestling with a slightly less grotesque one is comedy? Is it funnier that they're naked?" Yes and yes.

But really, the truth is that this isn't your cup of tea, George. I get that. I don't agree, but who says I have to?

Posted by: TK at November 7, 2006 12:33 PM

George, you must be a riot at the ole Skull and Bones mixers.

"Remember that scene in Caddyshack when the Bishop has the best round of his life, but then is struck by lightning and his moronic caddy (talk about pandering to the lowest common denominator there) runs away, then he says later 'There is no god!' Talk about going for the obvious laugh - the Bishop turns into an atheist drunk over a golf game, ha ha. And don't even get me started on Rodney Dangerfield's crass brand of 'humor.' I mean, how funny is it to ridicule the uptight Judge Smails? Anyone could do that. Hrmph! I can't believe all the morons that thought that movie was funny. Gosh, when is Hollywood gonna wake up and make Dante's 'Divine Comedy' a movie? Now THAT would really tickle Muffy's funny bone!"

Posted by: mike at November 7, 2006 12:41 PM

Yes - a grotesquely fat man wrestling with a slightly less grotesque one is funny.

And I'm not too proud or self-aware to say that.

Posted by: JJ at November 7, 2006 12:44 PM

I'm not sure there's any sense in defending/attacking such a movie as Borat - some people will like it and some just won't - but I loved it. It was wonderful, not only in its most base form (the generally silly, often outrageous humor), but also because it is a gentle nudge for audiences around the world to take a closer look at Western culture, and see it for how absurd it really can be. It doesn't matter that a Jewish man is posing as a raving anti-semite, that he engages in a squirmingly uncomfortable naked altercation with his associate, that he commits various potty faux-pas... In the end, you leave with the understanding that, in far too many ways, a huge part of America has become caught up in trying to preserve certain inappropriate or outdated traditions, at the same time desperately afraid of potentially dangerous outsiders, and also ashamed to express themeslves in ways that might be viewed as strange or suspicious by their neighbours. Think about the few people in the movie who ended up being genuinely kind or helpful or at least quasi-comfortable with Borat. These people are a minority in America, and the movie reveals that plainly.

Posted by: B at November 7, 2006 12:45 PM

B - if the movie was filled with genuinely kind and helpful Americans, it wouldn't be funny. SBC either avoided those types of people, or left the majority of them on the cutting room floor. To make this movie a comment on the intelligence of America is almost as dumb as making it about Kazakh reporters.

Posted by: mike at November 7, 2006 12:55 PM

I think you missed my point, mike... I said it was funny, and I loved it for that (just about peed my pants a few times!), but I was trying to maybe elucidate that there was even more to appreciate. In uncovering the large part of America that behaves this way, Cohen gives his audience a little something extra to mull over when the pooping and clucking and romance-exploding is over.

Posted by: B at November 7, 2006 1:03 PM

I was taking exception with you stating that kind and helpful people are a minority in the US and A. Borat hilariously skewers some deserving morons and segments of our society. But to assume that his targets are representative of America as a whole is ignorant, as ignorant as watching an episode of Cops and thinking "Geez, Pittsburgh sure is filled with dumb-ass crack whores!" (Although the Albuquerque epsidoes probably understate the craptitude of that city). That said, I'll fuck off now, and enjoy the movie!

Posted by: mike at November 7, 2006 1:22 PM

Point taken - I shouldn't say they're a minority. Done and done.

Posted by: B at November 7, 2006 1:34 PM

I can't help but notice the same kind of reverse snobbery with this movie that there was with Snakes on a Plane. Except, for some reason, this one is succesful...

Posted by: Christine at November 7, 2006 2:03 PM

Like the sleeve of a wizard.

This is inspiration for my next Halloween costume.

Posted by: Britt at November 7, 2006 2:04 PM

I thought the scenes with the so-called kinder people (the driving teacher, the "Dining Club") were some of the funniest scenes. You could see their uncomfort, and their work to keep a polite and kind decorum despite his best efforts to shock them.

Helcat, LOVED that scene. His WHAT????!!! was so believable.

His commitment to the character was excellent. Bravo!

Posted by: Kara at November 7, 2006 2:12 PM

haaaaated this movie! The humor comes from those folks not in on the joke. That's not humor, it's a sophomoric prank which sadly epitomizes our sophomoric society. Borat is outrageous and yes, if you allow it, he is funny, but only insomuch as one might think inviting a black man to a black tie affair, calling him a nigger all night and treating him like a waiter is funny because, ... it's all a big joke, see? Stupid.

To compare Baron to Peter Sellers is beyond insulting. Andy kaufman yes, definitely, another guy whose "brilliance" was centered on ridiculing other people. It's masturbatory only.

Sad commentary on our society when this is the number one film in America.

Posted by: snooooooze at November 7, 2006 3:09 PM

Yakov Smirnoff does not have a monopoly on the innocuous, naive but unintentionally funny foreign guy. That's like saying every comedian that followed Richard Pryor is a sad knockoff with absolutely nothing new brought to the table. I think Eddie Murphy et. al. would kindly disagree.

Posted by: Jahed at November 7, 2006 3:36 PM

Yakov Smirnoff has his own "theater" in Branson, Missouri, so don't be disrespecting him, please.

Posted by: booger at November 7, 2006 4:11 PM

It is a tribute to SBC's skill, courageousness and talent as an actor and comedian to evoke this much reaction, positive or negative from people around the world. His unwavering commitment to character is beyond admirable.

I've loved Borat on the Ali G Show for several years and the movie doesn't disappoint.

Posted by: KVA at November 7, 2006 4:25 PM

Da. Da Ali G Show. Husband chastised me already.

Posted by: KVA at November 7, 2006 4:37 PM

I saw the 'please click once'. This was an accident. I'm banned from posting. This is why I lurk.

Posted by: KVA at November 7, 2006 4:40 PM

I think the people who are attacking the film perhaps missed the point. Its a Jewish comedian, pointing out the ridiculousness of anti-semites. Anti-Semites, especially american ones (i mean presumably educated ones) ARE ridiculously stupid.

Oh... and i dont know who Yakov Smirnoff even is... do you have to be middle aged to understand the reference?

Posted by: Carrie at November 7, 2006 6:23 PM

The point is, when you say something completely absurd, you will ALWAYS get some degree of assent from the people you're speaking to. America is tolerant to the point of being ripe for "Borat." The backlash of political correctness, you know?

I almost peed my pants, I laughed so hard. This is the funniest movie in YEARS. Absolutely dead-on timing, SBC...I thought of Groucho, too. Also, Buster Keaton in the hard-luck scenes. But it also evoked Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. How does that happen?

Posted by: Pookie at November 7, 2006 7:26 PM

I can't help but notice the same kind of reverse snobbery with this movie that there was with Snakes on a Plane.

Agreed, Christine. As only a handful of posters have mentioned, there are some who won't like the movie. Kudos to those who feel free to disagree and state their love without resorting to juvenile insults about those who don't care for SBC's brand of comedy.

That said, I haven't seen the movie yet, but I find SBC hilarious. I have no doubt that I will enjoy Borat. It's great that many have gotten what seems to be a good laugh from a movie. Haven't been many of those around lately, it seems.

Posted by: Daphne at November 7, 2006 7:38 PM

I didn't find this movie very funny at all and feel really weird about it. I thought I would love it. My boyfriend says that I haven't seen enough of SBC previously, but is that really it? Neither had several of our friends who laughed hysterically throughout. I love South Park, Kids in the Hall, Trailer Park Boys and lots of other crude humour so I know it's not me being over-sensitive. I wasn't offended, I just didn't laugh very much. But it's been so universally applauded I am beginning to think I have no sense of humour. I'm questioning my worth as a human being and think I may be moving into the realm of "I just don't get those young people's humour".

The bear and the chicken made me laugh. And the bag of poo at the dinner table. But the rest was just, well, not that funny.

What's wrong with me?

Posted by: Jessica at November 7, 2006 11:54 PM

Nothing wrong with you Jessica - It's not the kind of humour you have to think about too hard. It's either going to make you laugh or it's not. I nearly injured myself watching this movie, but my girlfriend, who has an amazing sense of humour had the odd chuckle here and there. She enjoyed it, but not to the extent that I did - and there is nothing wrong with her - I assure you.

Posted by: Craig at November 8, 2006 1:45 AM

Boys, boys....you can try to intellectualize this and argue over minutiae until the cows come home, but let's not turn this into a pissing contest. Sasha Baron Cohen is following in the footsteps of a legion of brilliant satirists like Lenny Bruce, Richard Pryor, George Carlin, and others who reveal and lampoon our deeply-buried prejudices through humour. He has his own style and to compare him to anyone else is facetious. I think he's brilliant.

Posted by: Valerie at November 8, 2006 9:39 AM

Oh... and i dont know who Yakov Smirnoff even is... do you have to be middle aged to understand the reference?

Five years ago, the response would be "Yes." But considering that he (along with hundreds of thousands of other 80's references) was mocked (?) in a Family Guy episode, it seems like a younger audience would be familiar with the name (although, to be fair, it wasn't a particularly good episode).

My main thing with the movie is just that I feel the "foreigner-that-doesn't-understand-American-Ways" is a bit overdone. That and the fact that since Group X is from this area, I've had to hear every bad Group X impression for about four years, so that can wear on you.

Posted by: Renee at November 8, 2006 10:29 AM

"Come here gypsy give me your tears"..... funniest line in the movie....

Posted by: Roberto the magician at November 8, 2006 12:48 PM

I think Borat will live on. Everyone thinks he'll never be able to pull off Borat again. But Ali G was so huge in Europe when not a soul had heard of him here. It's the same with Borat. He interviews 50somethings and 20somethings will go see the movie.

Someone mentioned Dog Bites Man, one of the funniest TV shows I have ever seen and a very similar vein to the style of Borat. It's a type of comedy that, as someone said, requires a lot of intelligence and an absolute, total balls-out commitment to the material and the character. That's what Baron-Cohen had.

There will not be a Borat 2, but he'll appear again. NW

Posted by: Noel at November 9, 2006 12:49 AM

Nobody has mentioned my favorite part.... directly after the naked fight when they run in the elevator, everyone else gets out on the next floor, but one guy actually waits in the elevator for his floor, looking anywhere but at the two naked guys he is riding in the elevator with.

OH, and when he said "Who is this woman you have shrunk gypsy". The way he said it was just hilarious, he was absolutely convinced that this woman was a gypsy and that this barbie was a shrunken woman.

AND when he threw money at the "shape shifting" jewish cockroaches.

Posted by: Kate at November 9, 2006 1:00 AM

This movie was the biggest waste of time...pause...NOT!


No really, I nearly threw up because I was laughing so hard.

Posted by: Christine at November 9, 2006 1:08 AM

Borat must be based on the 'I kiss you' guy from 6 or 7 years ago.

http://www.istanbul.tc/mahir/mahir/

Posted by: i kiss you at November 9, 2006 1:40 AM

Borat is funny.What makes him even more hilarious is, if you know it, that HE IS A JEWISH comedian and the scenes 'from his native village in kazakhstan" are filmed in a Romanian village.As I am Romanian born, I understood the words and, TRUST me, the swear words were even funnier than the translation!!
For other segments -cut scenes and Borat episodes from UK(filmed 2 yrs ago,I think) go to Youtube.com .There is loads of extras there.

Posted by: simonne at November 9, 2006 5:08 AM

I'm so glad that someone else loved the part where he dropped the bag and the chicken clucked. For some reason, I always giggle when I think about that particular bit.
I laughed harder at this movie than I have ever laughed at a movie before. I was laughing so hard that tears were pouring down my face.
Beautiful.

Posted by: Kat at November 10, 2006 9:58 AM

Some of you are REALLY over thinking this film. Just sit back, relax and enjoy it. I seriously think I pulled something, I laughed so hard. For almost the entire movie. And while I find a lot of things funny, I find very few things laugh-out-loud funny.

There was a guy about seven rows down who was laughing so hard, so long, he started to retch and gag and I was afraid he was going to vomit.

Just realizing that a movie could make you laugh so hard you puke made me laugh AGAIN.

The people with me couldn't breathe, couldn't speak, tears rolling down their faces, and we just clutched at each other the whole time. One of my party fell on the movie theater floor.

I feel sorry for anyone who is so lacking in a sense of humor that they could just sit there through a movie like that.

Posted by: Kathy at November 10, 2006 11:14 AM

I normally agree with most every review but I thought this movie was unbearably terrible.

Posted by: amber at November 10, 2006 11:59 AM

I think the problem with people who criticize this film is underthinking, not overthinking. If you understand it as a satire, everything--including the over-the-top absurdities--falls into a context that makes it a very revealing and worthwhile film.

Posted by: Diana at November 10, 2006 2:06 PM

I didn't think it was all that funny! There I said it. I am familiar with SBC, I understand that it is a satire, I get that it not a "thinking" comedy. But I just didn't find the jokes very funny. I was checking my phone for the time most of the movie. I chuckled at some parts, but mostly I was bored. I was amped to see this movie, because I think SBC is hilarious. What went wrong? I wasn't offended per se, I was cringing at the naked wrestling. I just DIDN'T think it was funny. kinda LAME actually.

Posted by: Trini at November 10, 2006 2:34 PM

Wow-

Are you allowed to not like the movie? I understand that some of you guys intensely enjoy watching two naked men wrestle- it's a free country- go for it. But I'm confused as to the level of animosity towards those who don't care for the movie. Are you that childish towards everyone who disagrees with you or ar you more angry about people dissing your love of incestuous prostitutes? Hmmmm. I'll just say I liked the movie so I don't get called an asshole. (The next threader who calls me an asshole is about as original as this stupid Borat/Yakov remake).

Posted by: Justin at November 10, 2006 2:57 PM

I'm sure I will love this movie. That said, I completely understand the "Are we on the same planet?" feelings when it comes to movies. I really, really didn't like "Something About Mary" and I was made to feel like a spoilsport about it on several occasions.

Posted by: Samantha T at November 10, 2006 5:02 PM

I laughed, not that hard, but I laughed. And then I got bored in some parts and wondered if I was missing something. I understand both sides here. It was funny, but not groundbreaking or amazing. I didn't laugh til I puked or got hurt or anything.

The funniest part, for me, is that those frat boys are suing. I think we should sue them.

Posted by: Theresa at November 10, 2006 11:50 PM

I sat down, relaxed, and laughed out loud for the dinner-table-bag-o-poo and the dropped-bag-hen-cluck, but no cackling tears came; no side cramping was invoked; and my face felt fine as the credits rolled. What happened? Where was my retching vomit I was promised? I won't give up though. Come DVD time, I'll provide it another shot.

But, as for this deep river of satirical social commentary on the "absurdity" of Western culture and its "inappropriate outdated traditions" mocked by the "genius" irony of the Anti-Semitic Jew? Yeah, we get it. Save it for the freshman sociology course.

Posted by: Rob B at November 11, 2006 1:49 AM

I have to agree with Rob here. I laughed out loud at some parts (ie the wrestling, the dinner, and the chicken in the bag) but to be honest I laughed more in Jackass 2. This movie seriously didn't live up to the hype. Most of the jokes were given away in the commercials/trailers. I have watched SBC as Ali G and laughed but Borat is the same method with a different accent. I am not even going to give the DVD a try.

Not impressed.

Posted by: pabs at November 11, 2006 3:00 PM

satire huh?, ..... how about a movie about a Jew named Cohen making tens of millions at the partial expense of some of the most impoverished people in the world, ... now thats funny, .... lol

Posted by: Chuck at November 11, 2006 7:49 PM

satire huh?, ..... how about a movie about a Jew named Cohen making tens of millions at the partial expense of some of the most impoverished people in the world, ... now thats funny, .... lol

Posted by: Chuck at November 11, 2006 7:50 PM

... like the sleeve of a wizard.

... a jar of gypsy tears

Just reading those lines made me remember laughing out loud and doing so again. Yes, if you did not laugh out loud at least once during this movie there IS something wrong with YOU. No, really, there is. Really! There is something wrong with YOU.

Posted by: wizardsleevesteve at November 11, 2006 8:07 PM

Really! YOU!

Posted by: wizardsleevesteve at November 11, 2006 8:09 PM

[i]Are you allowed to not like the movie? I understand that some of you guys intensely enjoy watching two naked men wrestle- it's a free country- go for it. But I'm confused as to the level of animosity towards those who don't care for the movie. Are you that childish towards everyone who disagrees with you or ar you more angry about people dissing your love of incestuous prostitutes?[/i]

I don't think the animosity comes from people not liking the movie, it comes from people saying they didn't like the movie and then saying that anyone who did like it is childish and stupid.

Posted by: _cG at November 11, 2006 8:27 PM

The first 45 minutes were HIlarious. The second 45 minutes... not so much.

Posted by: Ed at November 11, 2006 10:39 PM

I agree with Chuck - half the jokes were along the lines of, "ha ha, aren't poverty-stricken nations funny?!?!" And that I didn't find funny at all.

Plus, yeah, Cohen is Jewish, and from what I hear he even lived in Tel Aviv for a period of time. Which adds another disturbing dimension when his character is a raging anti-Semitic Muslim.

This movie had it's moments, but overall I was underwhelmed.

Posted by: Gudrun at November 12, 2006 12:20 AM

"Chuck" seems to have fallen prey to SBC's very premise:

satire huh?, ..... how about a movie about a Jew named Cohen making tens of millions at the partial expense of some of the most impoverished people in the world

Beware the Jew...he will change forms. (Give him money, and maybe he will go away...)

Yikes.

Posted by: G at November 12, 2006 1:26 AM

In case my derisive sarcasm wasn't sufficiently clear, allow me to add (in my best gritted "Newman!" voice):

Jews!

Get over yourselves. You liked it, you didn't -- chickens are clucking, and the world is goings on.

Posted by: G at November 12, 2006 1:33 AM

I will also clarify and imbellish the intent of my sarcastic comments for "G".
I appeal to Cohen to donate $500,000 to infrastructure for that poor Rumanian town. I respect his inherent understanding of right and wrong and now that he has the money in hand it is the least he could do for those poor people whom he portrayed so miserably for profit.

Posted by: chuck at November 12, 2006 7:22 AM

I really can't understand the hate, I can understand being unable to laugh, but if it isn't your cup of tea why not just move on?

I can't stand this attitude where humor is put on "tiers" and certain folks have to label it "jackass" humor or "potty" humor. Please get over yourselves?

If you came in the movie expecting some intellectually stimulating comedy, you're the real fool. Go watch some snide Dennis Miller.

The rest of us, who enjoyed it, realized what we were getting into and loved the movie for it. The timing, his schtick and how he plays off the people (who aren't scripted but total strangers) reflects how on the spot brilliant SBC is and kept me and my buddies laughing well into the next skit.

Sure some of you can dislike it, but I have yet to hear a real reason other than it hurt some sensitive sensibilities. Honestly, the Borat hate sounds like it's coming from an uppity bullcrap PC attitude than anything else.

Posted by: Dev at November 12, 2006 5:04 PM

I liked it, but I didn't laugh myself silly. I actually found myself thinking about it for hours afterward--I was surprised by that.

He held up a mirror to certain segments of our society and it wasn't pretty at all. There were moments that were just....really sad. The gun shop owner didn't bat a freaking eyelid when Borat asked him for the best gun with which to kill Jews, he just said, "Well, probably a 9 mm..."

I gasped. I know I shouldn't be surprised. But damn, that's harsh. And the rodeo guy? Yeah, I know, I know. I live in Texas, I've BEEN around these people. But it's still sad when you hear it out loud.

The nicest people in the movie were the Jewish couple and the black teenagers in Atlanta.

Oddly, my favorite parts where the short intro and ending when he's in Khazakstan.

Posted by: Anastasia at November 12, 2006 10:38 PM

Sure some of you can dislike it, but I have yet to hear a real reason other than it hurt some sensitive sensibilities.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but why does anyone have to explain their reason for disliking the movie? SBC's humor, like any other comedian, is not for everyone. It may be as simple as that. And while there have been condescending remarks from those who dislike the movie, there have been just as many who expressed their dislike only and were ridiculed for it (i.e. something's wrong with them, their boyfriend should break up with them, they have no sense of humor, etc). It feels like high school, or maybe even college, all over again, with the cool kids mocking the minority because they dare to be different, and the overly intellectual patronizing the cool kids for not being as high-minded. At the end of the day, it's just a damn movie.

Posted by: Daphne at November 12, 2006 11:33 PM

I think the Borat character, and the movie in general, are very funny. I just have one reservation. As an American Jew, I was a little uncomfortable sitting through some of the satirical anti-semitic scenes. I realize SBC is an observant jew and all that, and I understand most viewers are intelligent enough to "get" the joke of his over-the-top ant-semitism in the film. The problem is, there are plenty of people in this country that hold real anti-semitic beliefs. My fear is that Borat sketches like "Running of the Jew" and "Throw the Jew in the Well," etc. might serve to reinforce anti-semitism, among the uneducated out there (and give these idiots plenty of "jew-hating" sound bites to repeat after leaving the theater), instead of exposing the ridiculous nature of such prejudices. Maybe I'm not giving the average viewer enough credit, but there are plenty of people out there that actually believe the stereotypes SBC is mocking in the movie. I don't think these kind of people need any fuel for the fire. Wish I could say America is ready for a movie like this. I'm definitely a Borat fan -- and I know some fellow posters will tell me to "lighten up." I'm just afraid that a lot of people out there, aren't prepared or willing to honestly look at the stupidity of their own prejudices.

Posted by: Marc at November 12, 2006 11:44 PM

Marc, I don't think people who hold anti-semitic views would look to Borat to fuel their beliefs/be encouraged by his sketches, mindsets are too different? I just can't see them actually relating to him.

I haven't seen Borat yet but fully intend to, loved him from the old days of AliG, really looking forward to it, the review makes it sound promising too :)

Posted by: AcidCandy at November 13, 2006 5:40 AM

Marc, I don't think people who hold anti-semitic views would look to Borat to fuel their beliefs/be encouraged by his sketches, mindsets are too different? I just can't see them actually relating to him.

I haven't seen Borat yet but fully intend to, loved him from the old days of AliG, really looking forward to it, the review makes it sound promising too :)

Posted by: AcidCandy at November 13, 2006 5:41 AM

I agree with an earlier post that this is the kind of movie you either like or don't, and it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to try over-analyze it. It's not that kind of movie. I also believe that you shouldn't anticipate laughing your ass off. At this point there's so much hype about how funny it is that if people aren't rolling in the aisles they're wondering what's wrong with themselves. Personally, I laughed so hard that my face hurt, but that's just me.

Posted by: alex at November 13, 2006 11:22 AM

"Borat's anti-Semitism is an outrageous caricature that, by its very extremity, points out the absurdity of only slightly milder actual anti-Semitism."


Bullshit. A jew inciting anti-semitism so that he can profit from it. Gee....kinda makes ya wonder.
Reminds me of pharmaceutical compaines creating illnesses to make money off of selling the "cure".

Posted by: Mothy at November 13, 2006 1:01 PM

"I've been to Kazakhstan and I can tell you that there are uneasy smells all over the place. ;-)"

Look, MORON, I am from Kazakhstan and I can tell you for sure that the only thing that smells around here is your foul mouth. While ALL the bits about Kazakhstan are made up, the moronic nature of the American life with all its stupid and xenophobic citizenty so well shown in the movie is not. So use your brains, my friend...

Posted by: A Kazakh at November 13, 2006 2:52 PM

My fear is that Borat sketches like "Running of the Jew" and "Throw the Jew in the Well," etc. might serve to reinforce anti-semitism, among the uneducated out there
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I think that would be a fair turn after a Jew made some low-hitting fun on the unsuspecting Kazakhs. BTW, antisemitism (real one) is on the rise in Kazakhstan (real country) of late thanks to this movie. SBC also made fun of Romanians whose dirt-poor village he filmed pretending he cared about their way of life. How sad and stupid. Need more reasons for antisemitism?

Remember, pornography (and this movie is a pornography in a cultural sense) is also very popular in certain circles and makes big money, but is still banned in movie theaters as it offends many people, especially those who still have a brain...

Posted by: UFO at November 13, 2006 3:02 PM

Mothy-

Please tell me you didn't mean that to sound as bad as it does on the screen. You sound so inflammatory - it sounds like you're saying the only reason someone like Cohen ("a jew") would make a movie like this is for the profit. As if satire isn't a legitimate art form and his status as "a jew" transcends his status as an artist or comedian and therefore negates any other motive he might have for creating "Borat."

Is this what you mean? I sure hope not. That's a pretty cynical worldview.

Posted by: Tammy at November 13, 2006 3:16 PM

I would rather spend 90 minutes with Sasha Baron Cohen as either himself or as "Borat" than even 1 minute with the numerous
people posting who lack the ability to laugh at his humor or to "get" it on any level. What arid lives they must perpetuate!
They have my sympathy.

Posted by: Dee at November 13, 2006 11:02 PM

I laughed- at least once a minute. I admired the movied just as a great big ballsy performance.

I'm glad he toned the act down a bit for the sweet Jewish couple.

Someone posted that the frat boys are suing. I like to hear more about this.

Also, does anyone know if Pam is on record anywhere in reaction to her being sacked.

Posted by: Mike D at November 14, 2006 1:49 AM

"Just playing devil's advocate here, but why does anyone have to explain their reason for disliking the movie?"

I dunno, because if nobody explained their reasons, the thread would look like this:

I loved it!!

LMFFO!!!!!!!!

Hated it. It's shit.

Fuck you. It cracked my shit up


Just like YouTube.

"SBC's humor, like any other comedian, is not for everyone."

Granted. Not everyone could sell this kind of humour, either. But SBC has sweetness and sincerity. Weren't you a little sad when he learned the truth about Pam and set his chicken free?

At his best, he doesn't push too hard, and just lets the humour unfold around him. I was a little concerned about the Romanian villagers, who seemed terribly poor, but it's pretty obvious they're in on the joke.

For the people who are concerned the film will provoke anti-Semitism: hearing no evil, seeing no evil, and speaking no evil does not stop prejudice, and exposing racism does not provoke it. "Borat" is proof enough of that.

Posted by: Janis at November 14, 2006 7:51 AM

Many did explain their reasoning, and somehow they weren't deemed "real." Whatever. I find SBC hilarious; it just irks that those who legitimately don't find him funny are flamed for it.

As for Pam and the chicken, I wouldn't know since I haven't seen it yet. Looking forward to it, though.

Posted by: Daphne at November 14, 2006 9:06 PM

Went to see this with my bf and one of his buddies. I really can't decide whether the movie or my guy's reaction to it was funnier (for the record he didn't stop laughing the ENTIRE time). I'm gonna have to say that I wouldn't recommend this movie to just anyone, but the more I think about it, the more I like it. If you think about it, it's pretty damn genius. They had to know the people they pulled into the skits were going to get pissed once it aired. So, suddenly a movie that could have been mildly successful is now going to be #1 in the box offices for WEEKS because of all the bitching and free press. Am I the kind of girl that usually goes for that kind of humor? nah. Jackass doesn't do a thing for me...but I liked Borat and have no intentions of denying anyone else their enjoyment by over-analyzing it.

Posted by: justmy2cents at November 15, 2006 5:52 PM

I forget where I read it, but Pamela Anderson discussed her part in the movie with SBC beforehand. She did indeed know.
As for the frat kids, they are suing because they claim that the producers and crew took them to a bar so they could "loosen up" before shooting, and then had them sign a contract even though they were inebriated. They also were apparently told that the documentary wasn't going to be shown in America.
Personally, I think they're just embarrassed about all the things that they said and are trying to make themselves look better, considering they said some pretty offensive shit. But they should know better than say all that into a camera, whether it's going to be shown in their own country or not.
By the way, the movie was fucking hilarious. I heard SBC is thinking about making a Bruno movie. I seriously hope he doesn't because Bruno for an hour and a half would be a nightmare.

Posted by: Burgundy at November 15, 2006 6:32 PM

"It feels like high school, or maybe even college, all over again, with the cool kids mocking the minority because they dare to be different, and the overly intellectual patronizing the cool kids for not being as high-minded. At the end of the day, it's just a damn movie."

I have a feeling a lot of people have lost the notion of satire or don't even know the point of it given that they're offended by some scenes. Scenes that were meant to be totally outrageous. I'm not even digging at people for not finding scenes funny, humor is subjective. I'm just wondering what was so offensive?

(Yes I know which scenes were deemed to be anti-semitic and some were offended by the Kazhak beginning, but why?)

Although it was a scripted film how many of you who were offended happened to watch "Life is Beautiful?" Did that offend you as well given the location? The time period? If not, what makes it different?

(And please spare me the Oscar crap, anyone who browses here knows that a movie's merits cannot be based on awards, especially the Oscars.)

Posted by: dev at November 15, 2006 11:59 PM

Burgundy: I don't know if a Bruno movie is in the works, but the Austrian Tourist Board is already worried about its possible effects on the the country - there are seious ongoing governement and media debates about it here!

Posted by: cinekat at November 16, 2006 11:46 AM

I am a conservative christian and I absolutely loved this movie. It exposed many american prejudices and our hypocrasy. We are so politically correct that we don't talk about these issues. I think that this movie is doing it's job. Even on this very board it is still doing that. I don't know how many references to ignorant southerners I have seen on this board. Enough to know that plenty of people have preconcieved notions about the intelligence and kindness of people they have Never met. I have traveled through forty states and met all sorts, trust me, there are just as many ignorant people in massachussettes as in North Carolina. By the way, that rodeo was held in Virginia folks. NOt exactly red neck territory. Not everyone who goes to a rodeo is a redneck asshole. I have been to several and I am from Michigan. The parts where he deals with Alan Keyes were hysterical. I thought Mr. Keyes was extremely gracious. This was not a big jab at conservatives. If that were the case that hysterical scene from the NOW ladies would not have been there. He rips away the veil of false civility on every level and exposes people. What have many people have told themselves they don't believe or condone? prejudgement on the basis of skin color or nationality, religion or maybe even the region of the country which someone lives in. Why do we laugh so hard at the cow in Borat's kazach home? Most of us still think that people in the former soviet union are still standing in breadlines and sharing light bulbs. Even though we know it's ridiculous to think that way. Did He showed people's prejudices? yes. But, he also showed peoples hearts. Did the Frat boys come off badly? Yes. But when he started crying, their first impulse was to comfort him. People aren't all bad. I came away from this film not feeling bad about people, but hopeful. This will make people think. Plus, that elevator scene where borat and his manager are naked and that guy is just pretending not to notice made me laugh so hard I cried. If two naked men ran into my elevator, that is EXACTLY what i would do. That and the chicken cluck when he threw down his bag on the highway. I spent that whole movie laughing.
sincerely,
christina Oursler

Posted by: cmoursler at November 18, 2006 4:50 AM

Pamela was not in on it. Trust me this is like
the 4th time he has done stuff to her like this.
He crashed her dog wedding also. She has security
get him removed.

Posted by: nikki at November 19, 2006 1:18 AM

Nikki, that is NOT true. I just read a quote of hers where she talked about planning the scene out in advance with him. She knew exactly who he was, and exactly what was going to happen. She's been a fan of his for years.

Posted by: Kathy at November 20, 2006 12:16 AM

This is quite some feud we've got going on in here. I can hear the pixilated bugles of the pro-Borats sounding on the horizon as I type, and risk becoming canon-fodder for the anti-Borats' dangerously cerebral arsenal if I stay too long. Thus, I'll try to be brief, and return to the safety of passive observation as soon as possible.

There were just a couple of points I wanted to make. The first is that, while its fine if men naked-wrestling their way through the karma sutra (if anyone has a right to be outraged it's Davitian over the discrepancy between his and SBC's censorial black-box proportions) isn't to your taste, it is hypocritical to denounce those who do find it funny as juvenile or un-intellectual. Bawdiness is a key component of much comedy, and such lofty authors as Boccaccio, Cervantes, Seneca and Chaucer have exploited it to its fullest. The latter, in his Miller's tale has a priest mistakenly kissing a woman's splayed bottom, believing it to be her lips, then realizing he's been duped because of its unnatural hairiness.

The second point is that we shouldn't be too quick to accuse people of prejudice. Most often what we see in Borat's encounters aren't deep-set prejudices, but people in awkward situations going along with him because they don't know what else to do (and aren't given time to stop and think about it). Thus the hotel staff shares in Borat's felicitations over his wife's demise; the car salesman recommends a corvette to attract a "shaved" lady; the gun salesman recommends a gun he thinks he might sell when Borat wants something to "kill a Jew"; and the rodeo audience cheer as Borat poses increasingly hideous tortures for the men women and children from the terrorism-linked regions of the middle east. These people aren't displaying ingrained sexism or racism; they're just trying to pick up on whatever fragments of Borat's broken English they can relate to. They hear what they're hoping to hear and react according to the most favorable interpretation of Borat's outlandish statements. The crowd most likely cheers not because they want the inhabitants of Iraq to be mutilated but because they want themselves to be safe (note how they stop cheering when children are brought into the equation). The car salesman pitches the Corvette not because he's endorsing Borat's comical sexism, but because he sees Borat as a potential buyer for what's traditionally regarded as a sexy car.

We laugh because it's funny to see people put in embarrassing situations - this is human nature and there is nothing inherently problematic with it. It becomes a problem if the butt of the joke is more negatively affected by it than the joke was worth (i.e. if it did more harm than good). However, part of the reason the butt of the joke would be more negatively affected is because we are so quick to defame their characters, label them as prejudice, and force them to bear the weight of prolonged social stigma, instead of just acknowledging their reactions for what they're truly worth (i.e. just the same stumbling reactions of most people in their situation). If, once the prank was played, we gave the victim a hearty pat on the back and congratulated them for being such a good sport, instead of undeservedly shaming them as universal pariahs, Borat style comedy would cause far less controversy and bring far more pleasure as a result.

Posted by: Pangloss at November 22, 2006 2:44 PM

This is quite some feud we've got going on in here. I can hear the pixilated bugles of the pro-Borats sounding on the horizon as I type, and risk becoming canon-fodder for the anti-Borats' dangerously cerebral arsenal if I stay too long. Thus, I'll try to be brief, and return to the safety of passive observation as soon as possible.

There were just a couple of points I wanted to make. The first is that, while its fine if men naked-wrestling their way through the karma sutra (if anyone has a right to be outraged it's Davitian over the discrepancy between his and SBC's censorial black-box proportions) isn't to your taste, it is hypocritical to denounce those who do find it funny as juvenile or un-intellectual. Bawdiness is a key component of much comedy, and such lofty authors as Boccaccio, Cervantes, Seneca and Chaucer have exploited it to its fullest. The latter, in his Miller's tale has a priest mistakenly kissing a woman's splayed bottom, believing it to be her lips, then realizing he's been duped because of its unnatural hairiness.

The second point is that we shouldn't be too quick to accuse people of prejudice. Most often what we see in Borat's encounters aren't deep-set prejudices, but people in awkward situations going along with him because they don't know what else to do (and aren't given time to stop and think about it). Thus the hotel staff shares in Borat's felicitations over his wife's demise; the car salesman recommends a corvette to attract a "shaved" lady; the gun salesman recommends a gun he thinks he might sell when Borat wants something to "kill a Jew"; and the rodeo audience cheer as Borat poses increasingly hideous tortures for the men women and children from the terrorism-linked regions of the middle east. These people aren't displaying ingrained sexism or racism; they're just trying to pick up on whatever fragments of Borat's broken English they can relate to. They hear what they're hoping to hear and react according to the most favorable interpretation of Borat's outlandish statements. The crowd most likely cheers not because they want the inhabitants of Iraq to be mutilated but because they want themselves to be safe (note how they stop cheering when children are brought into the equation). The car salesman pitches the Corvette not because he's endorsing Borat's comical sexism, but because he sees Borat as a potential buyer for what's traditionally regarded as a sexy car.

We laugh because it's funny to see people put in embarrassing situations - this is human nature and there is nothing inherently problematic with it. It becomes a problem if the butt of the joke is more negatively affected by it than the joke was worth (i.e. if it did more harm than good). However, part of the reason the butt of the joke would be more negatively affected is because we are so quick to defame their characters, label them as prejudice, and force them to bear the weight of prolonged social stigma, instead of just acknowledging their reactions for what they're truly worth (i.e. just the same stumbling reactions of most people in their situation). If, once the prank was played, we gave the victim a hearty pat on the back and congratulated them for being such a good sport, instead of undeservedly shaming them as universal pariahs, Borat style comedy would cause far less controversy and bring far more pleasure as a result.

Posted by: Pangloss at November 22, 2006 2:48 PM

Taken straight off the internet:

NOVEMBER 13--Justin Seay, one of the many unwitting co-stars of "Borat," would prefer these days to be known only as "John Doe." The University of South Carolina graduate, 24, is one of two former fraternity members to file a lawsuit last week (using the fictitious Doe handle) against the comedy's producers and Twentieth Century Fox. An excerpt from the Los Angeles Superior court filing appears below. A drunken Seay appears in the film with two fellow Chi Psi frat brothers, and the boisterous trio acquits themselves exactly as you'd expect. In his lawsuit, Seay contends that last October the "Borat" crew got him and his pals drunk and encouraged them to engage in "behavior that they otherwise would not have engaged in." As a result, Seay/Doe claims that he has suffered humiliation, mental anguish, and emotional and mental distress, for which he wants to be paid damages. We'll let the courts handle those claims, but Seay--pictured above in a still from the movie--does not seem like an amateur when it comes to partying. On his MySpace page, Seay lists "gettin' drunk and havin' a good time" as one of his interests, along with NASCAR and "pretty much any typical guy stuff." In an August poem to Seay, a friend writes, "Hey Hey Justin Seay, Drinks like a fish everyday!" A followup message opens with the salutation, "Hi Drunk Friend!!!" But it is the photos of Seay that will probably draw the interest of lawyers defending the producers of the movie, which stars comedian Sacha Baron Cohen as a clueless, anti-Semitic journalist from Kazakhstan. Seay, it seems, is rarely photographed without alcohol in his hand, as seen in a series of eight MySpace photos reproduced here. Reached today on his cell phone, Seay, a former Chi Psi vice president, declined comment on his lawsuit.

So basically, he's a rich kid who doesn't like that people have seen what he's really like. Sad...

This movie was hilarious, even though I spent most of the film cringing rather than laughing! My boyfriend laughed all the way through and I can't wait for Bruno!

(For those who don't know, Bruno is another of SBC's characters; a gay austrian TV presenter - Universal Pictures have bought the rights to that film for $42.5 million)

Also for those asking who was in on it? Pamela Anderson was, as was the woman who winds up as his wife in the end, his "sister", his "manager" Azamat... e really obvious ones, in other words. The rest were all legit.

Posted by: Irish at November 30, 2006 9:13 AM

SBC is a cheap cable TV whore who somehow
appeals to retarded US-Americans (most of them).

Everyone else just shudders.

Posted by: Borat sucks at December 9, 2006 10:53 AM

Borat hit DVD this week in N. American so I finally saw it (the Running of the Jews, the shapeshifting cockroaches, the clucking bag-hen, the Pentacostals...still laughing).

Just wanted to post an observation: the "Throw the Jew down the well" singalong seems to have gone AWOL. Butchers.

Posted by: ranylt at March 8, 2007 9:27 PM

i saw borat, and it wasn't necessarily my cup of tea, but i can appreciate that i may not have gotten the humor intended...what i don't understand is why stressing the fact that SBC is jewish makes it alright to make a joke about anti-semitism at a jewish couples' expense. i can't imagine the couple were too thrilled when they heard about/saw the film, even if it exposes some people's ignorance and anti-semitism. what about the other minorities borat portrays in the film. are we validating his racist jokes even though he's not black? i'm confused by some people's willingness to give him credibility based on his faith alone....

Posted by: danae at March 16, 2007 4:53 PM

I finally saw this last night. I expected the anti-Semitism, but I chose to see it in the light of making anti-Semitists look ridiculous; the actual Jews in the film were shown to be compassionate and hospitable, with Borat and Azamat coming off as ignorant asses.

I didn't laugh out loud at the nude wrestling scene, but mostly because I was watching this with my (rather sheltered) oldest stepson and was uncomfortable because he was there (as I was with the scenes where Borat showed off nude pictures of his son). It was funny, but maybe went on a little too long; I passed my threshold for hairy man-boobs about thirty seconds into that scene.

To those speculating about the rodeo: they didn't even stop in Texas. Although I guess to anyone who thinks that everyone south of the Mason-Dixon line is racist/ignorant/inbred/uneducated/toothless/etc., it doesn't really matter, because like any target of bigotry, we "all look alike."

I thought it was sweet when he set his chicken free. I thought it was interesting how he was greeted with mostly rudeness in New York and mostly kindness in the South. The Southerners responded with anger only when pushed beyond a certain point; even the antique-shop guy kept his cool until Borat offered bags of pubic hair as payment.

What I admired was SBC's ability to keep in the character at all costs, his utter straight-facedness while saying the most outrageous things. He was so earnest, so eager to learn, so unaware of how outlandish he seemed.

Posted by: Noelegy at March 23, 2007 2:00 PM

Just a few thoughts...

I gotta say, this may make me a traitor to my generation and all, but i didnt get it. For the first time, I felt like that girl (that girl being a humorless, lifeless one) since i just didnt see it.

maybe the hype (including the first line of this review) was anti-climactic, but i was waiting for the messiah of comedies. i'm still waiting.

how two naked dudes, one of whom is vastly overweight, 69-ing on a hotel bed was the FUNNIEST THING to happen since, well, everything apparently, is beyond me.

and was no one irritated by the rampant southern satire? predictably i found the eastern european satire to be funnier, but maybe that's because the southerners are idiots horse has been beaten to a pulp. WE GET IT- PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH CANT TIE THEIR SHOES AND ARE UP FOR SLAVERY OF WOMEN AND MINORITIES.

i did laugh when he started unpacking in the elevator and unpacked his chicken (not a metaphor).

Gotta hand it to Cohen though, he has balls (not that you'd know from the obviously overly-long black rectangle in the naked wrestling scene)- when looking at the running of the jews, i couldnt help but say aloud "How did this movie get made??!" And he was committed to his character and he knew America well enough to know it'd work. and work it did.
wah wah wee wah.

Posted by: Christy at April 9, 2007 12:30 PM

I'll amend that I understand it would be much hipper to acknowledge the satire and "social significance" of what Cohen tried to do. And I certainly wasn't offended. I just didn't think most of it was that funny.

"Think for a moment about the actual jokes that appear in this movie. A man breaking china in a (fake) antiques shop? Two men wrestling without their clothes? Referring to a black man as a "chocolate-face?" Pulling your pants down and trying to check into a nice hotel? Really? Is this what comedy has come to?"

Amen. I'll take the subtle, witty humor of the Office or Arrested Development.

I think cohen's brilliant though...

Posted by: Christy at April 9, 2007 12:42 PM

maybe all these comments are what Baron Cohen was trying to do in the first place? generate talk about the state of our country and of third-world countries elsewhere? there can be humor involved in that too...

Posted by: Eileen at June 8, 2007 3:17 PM

I saw Borat on DVD. Moments were truly hilarious, others unwatchable, some of it was obvious, some (quite a lot) touching, but what comedy is non-stop laughs? Lots of them if you're in the mood, none if you're not, maybe. But this was way better than most - and I predict no-one will dare to copy him for a long time.

Posted by: George at July 16, 2007 10:25 AM