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Demolition Man / TK

Ah, Hangover Theater. I realize now, particularly after reading the reviews of my esteemed colleague Mr. Prisco, that I have done thee a disservice. I didn’t fully comprehend the point of Hangover Theater. My review of 48 Hours was probably cheating. In retrospect, Hangover Theater is not about quality films. It is not about groundbreaking cinema, or exciting first performances. No, Hangover Theater is about turning the lights down, curling up with an egg sandwich and a bottle of water, and watching something to dull the pain. And what dulls your senses more than dumb action movies? Nothing. Nothing at all, I say.

Which is why I present to you perhaps the dumbest of the dumb action movies (not directed by Michael Bay or Simon West) — Demolition Man. I hardly know where to begin. Because make no mistake, you collection of suffering boozebags, Demolition Man is fucking stupid. I mean, jaw-droppingly fucking stupid. It’s got plot holes you could skid a school bus through sideways. It’s got leaps in logic that defies the laws of common sense, not to mention physics. It’s got more shots of Stallone’s well-spritzed ass than I care to recollect. It’s got Wesley Snipes wearing striped pants and a checkered leather jacket, with bleached-blond hair (so you know he’s really evil!). It’s got Rob Schneider. (And let me tell you folks, on the list of people that I would enjoy picking up by the neck and crotch and throwing up and then down a flight of stairs, and then perhaps into a lake filled with mutant zombie alligators who enjoy sexually molesting humans … well, Rob Schneider is high up on that list. I loathe that bug-eyed, cheap-seat, mouth-breathing sucktastic vortex of talent and self-respect more than almost any other actor this side of Larry the Cable Guy.)

And yet — and yet, I’m strangely drawn to Demolition Man. In fact, when I was checking out what’s showing this weekend, I actually made a little “ooh lookie!” noise when I saw it on the schedule. In fact, I eschewed infinitely funnier (not to mention smarter) fare in its favor. Because as much as the phrase is overused, the fact is that Demolition Man really is so bad it’s good. No, really. Shut up, it is. Don’t look at me like that. I’m serious, Goddamnit!

So let me count the reasons why:

1. The Plot. First thing to note: this movie stars Sylvester Stallone (Over The Top, Rhinestone) as John Spartan, a breathtakingly virile police officer who is known for his violence and unabashed destruction of public property, so much so that it earns him the titular nickname, Demolition Man. And since every ultra-violent, speech-impeded, greased-up superhero needs an arch-nemesis, Wesley Snipes (Money Train, The Detonator) plays Simon Phoenix, the deadly, rapacious criminal who hates authority and laughs at an uncomfortably high pitch. Spartan plays the Batman to Phoenix’s Joker in a futuristic 1996, where Los Angeles has been turned into a giant war zone that looks suspiciously like it was constructed from dirty Playmobiles. Eventually, they duke it out in an abandoned warehouse, and Phoenix is captured, but not before Spartan blows up the building, unwittingly blowing up a couple dozen hostages as well. As a result, they are both condemned to be cryogenically frozen as punishment. Obviously, if you have two muscle-bound mass murderers, the best punishment is to make them into murderer-sicles. Anyway. Blah blah, fast forward 40 years to 2036 where Simon Phoenix, a.k.a. Blade II: Electric Boogaloo (is that joke overused yet?) escapes from his frozen prison (as if risen from the grave… like a Phoenix! Hey-O!), kills a bunch of guards, and promptly proceeds to go on a rampage through the new city known as San Angeles (Los Angeles and Santa Barbara merged after an earthquake… or something). Phoenix is able to freely run amuck because San Angeles has been turned into some creepy dystopian “Futurama” episode, where things like alcohol, drugs, smoking, sex, swearing and presumably peeing outside have been banned. They’ve completely eliminated all forms of crime, to the point where the cops no longer know how to deal with actual violence. So of course, the only way for them to deal with the wild and crazy Simon Phoenix is to thaw out the man who caught him, one John Spartan. Cut to second shot of Stallone’s ass. Oy.

Anyway, Spartan is revived, he has to deal with the silly ways of peaceful and gentle San Angeles, he swears a lot and takes a shit, he has some sort of weird mind sex with Sandra Bullock, and a bunch of shit blows up. He then has an argument with the police chief because heroes always have loud arguments with their police chief, a bunch more shit blows up, Dennis Leary leads a bunch of chain-smoking, rat-eating, alcoholic Road Warrior rip-offs to a revolt against the cult-like leader of San Angeles (who, unsurprisingly, is actually eeeevil), a bunch more shit blows up and then Stallone makes out with Sandra Bullock. Along the way he learns that Taco Bell is the only restaurant left, Arnold Schwarzenegger used to be President (gulp!), and that for some reason everyone dresses like they buy their clothes at the Jedi Council Cheap Knock-Off Shoppe.

2. The cast: I’ve already mentioned Stallone and Snipes. Sandra Bullock (The Net, Fire on the Amazon) stars as the perky cop/sidekick/disturbing love interest Lenina Huxley (get it? Huxley? Yep, that’s a Brave New World reference folks! Sleep tight.), while Dr. Raymond Cocteau, the aforementioned cult leader, is played by Nigel Hawthorne (The Madness of King George). Then there is also Schneider, playing an annoying asshole as usual. But what’s even more fascinating is that there are probably a dozen “that guys” in this movie. Seriously. If you’re a random trivia geek like me, this is a treasure trove of “that guy” moments. The dude with the eels from Nightbreed? Absolutely! The black Agent Johnson from Die Hard? Yup, he’s there (oddly, again in a helicopter). The captain from the Lethal Weapon movies? You betcha! The bouncer from the rave scene in Blade? Uh huh. Jesse freakin’ Ventura? You’re damn skippy! Dan Motherfucking Cortese? Sadly, yes. It’s a cornucopia of useless actor trivia. Christ, Jack Black is in it!

Oh, I forgot to mention — if you think you’re gonna make it through a movie where Wesley Snipes plays a guy named Simon … without any Simon Says references? Boy, do I have some bad news for you.

3. The direction: Directed by Marco Brambilla, whose only other full-length credit is 1997’s Excess Baggage, Demolition Man is a mess. It succeeds in being a high-budget action movie that looks like it was funded by breaking into my car and stealing the change under the floor mats. The vision of the future for Demolition Man basically consists of gluing some extra plastic to some well-polished Oldsmobiles, raiding the wardrobes and sets of both Mad Max and Defending Your Life, buying grown-up sized G.I. Joe guns and calling it a day. The music consists of either insanely bombastic orchestral pieces during the action scenes, or, most puzzlingly, resurrecting UTFO for all of Wesley Snipes scenes. I shit you not. Watch his scenes and see if you can hold yourself back from doing the Worm.

However, the best part of the directing is that Demolition Man tries to be a smart movie disguised as a dumb movie. Basically, it tries to hide a tasty bit of social commentary beneath its hard candy shell … and fails gloriously. Its failure is twofold: First, because that bit of subtlety is not even remotely subtle, and second, by not making any damn sense. It makes a lame attempt at pointing out the evils of political correctness by showing the consequences — namely, we’d all be stuck in a boring society that won’t let us masturbate and forces us to wear bathrobes all day. Except that we get to eat Taco Bell all day and drive fancy future cars! And everyone’s favorite music is … 20th Century advertising jingles? And yet, well, don’t you see? By outlawing all that is bad, we lose ourselves and become sissified, mindless drones! What is the only way to prevent this grim assimilation? Why nothing other than senseless violence! It’s completely nonsensical, so much so that if you’re willing and able to shut your cortex down, you’ll find yourself oddly drawn into its idiotic world.

On the other hand, if you’re going to go into Demolition Man looking for a deeper meaning to the mysteries of life, frankly, you need to be hit in the forehead with a claw hammer. Because despite its paltry attempts at lofty aspiration, Demolition Man is not a thinking man’s movie. No, it’s a movie for leftover Chinese and multiple Gatorades, for pajama pants and unwashed hair. It’s four-Advils-and-a-large-coffee entertainment. And Saturday, at 8:00 PM on Cinemax (of course), it’s yours. Enjoy, you beautiful drunken louts.

TK can be found wandering aimlessly through suburban Massachusetts, wondering how the hell he got there while yelling at the kids on his lawn. You can find him wasting his time at Uncooked Meat.


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Comments

This movie is so deliciously stupid that I can't HELP but watch it. When Stallone needs toilet paper, so he curses until he has enough citations to wipe his ass? Priceless Oscar-worthy yumminess.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 11:53 AM

Hell yeah! This was on TBS (home of hangover theatre) last month and I stayed up waaay late watching it. The best part--the oldies radio station that plays nothing but commercials.

Posted by: Jonesy at April 11, 2008 11:58 AM

"a breathtakingly virile police officer"

I'm sorry I just can't get past this sentence. I keep seeing the scene from The Meaning of Life where the babies keep dropping out of the Catholic woman every 20 seconds.

Posted by: PaddyDog at April 11, 2008 12:04 PM

There are no words to describe my absolute love for this movie. I have three copies. One on VHS taped from the TV, complete with advery breaks one *coughillegallydownloadedcough* copy and one on DVD.

It's the Edgar Friendly monologue on freedom* that does it. And Wesley Snipes' sheer joy at playing a psychopathic maniac. And the crappy attempts at social commentary. And the seashells and the crappy attempt at mystifying some elements of the future that they represent.

Cracking review TK. I will be re watching it this weekend along with The Running Man in a Stupid Action Movie Spectacular.

*reproduced here for your viewing pleasure: [interesting fact - the second hit when googling said monologue was me, commenting on Pajiba, aeons ago (before my blog days) defending my love of said monologue.]

"According to Cocteau's plan, I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal?"

Posted by: Alex the Odd at April 11, 2008 12:15 PM

This really is one of the best hangover movies ever. Or it's-1:00-in-the-morning-and-I-just-got-in-and-I-can't-sleep-and-I-just-found-this-container-of-ice-cream-and-a-spoon-OH-GOODIE-! movies.

But you forgot about the knitting. Sure, it's a throwaway moment, but when Stallone starts messing with yarn, then later presents Sandra Bullock with his handiwork and starts going on about how he could do a nice sweater for her, it just totally seals the deal for me.

Posted by: PaleoLithchick at April 11, 2008 12:18 PM

...that fucking Stallone, a first class douche bag. Tax evading Snipes, you go my brother.

Posted by: Pookie at April 11, 2008 12:19 PM

Excess Baggage

Wait a minute. The man responsible for this "gem" was also behind one of my favorite guilty pleasures?

Ouch.

This really is one of the worst/best bad movies ever.

Nice selection.

Posted by: Melody at April 11, 2008 12:26 PM

Okay, let's see if I can kill this conversation.

HA!


okay, got the joke out of the way, moving on...

I haven't been hungover in years, thus I've never seen this. However, it may certainly be worth risking a hangover for.

Do hangover movies also work as drunkenly laughing movies? Case by case basis?

Either way, I think you sold me. But....does Sandra Bullock here win over the also unseen Diane Lane in "Judge Dredd"?

And TK is totally ignoring my baby zebra post. He is definitely born again hard.

Posted by: Jay at April 11, 2008 12:41 PM

This movie has so many eminently quotable lines. I think I may just add it to 'PCU' and 'Airheads' as my ultimate sick-day trifecta.

Posted by: twig at April 11, 2008 12:44 PM

Judge Dredd never happened.

It NEVER HAPPENED.

Posted by: twig at April 11, 2008 12:45 PM

Alex, excellent speech recap. But I can't let that go without finishing it, because the closing is great, too:

"I've seen the future. You know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener."

Love it. I also love when Sandra Bullock not only points out how Sly paused to deliver an awful one-liner ("You're gonna regret this the rest of your life--both seconds of it.") outside the Taco Bell, but admits being turned on by it.

Although, admittedly, Sly was very big and brave in this flick. But not nearly as pretty as sissy-Benjamin Bratt.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this. Best to quit while I'm (kind of) ahead.

Posted by: Sean at April 11, 2008 12:51 PM

twig...I knew you'd say that.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at April 11, 2008 12:52 PM

Great review, TK. I LOVE this movie! Anything with Wesley Snipes has me hooked anyway. "Blade" is my favorite personal "hangover theater" movie.
Have seen it more times than I will admit to ("catch you f***ers at a bad time?").

Posted by: Bev M. at April 11, 2008 12:53 PM

Pookie:

I thought you resigned? Stop messing with me like this. You're like a country and western song breaking my heart by walking out and then showing up again. And of course I go running to take you back. I need help.

Posted by: PaddyDog at April 11, 2008 12:59 PM

My favorite part of this review? The stellar film credits given behind each actor's name. Fire on the Amazon?!! word!

Posted by: PissBoy at April 11, 2008 1:01 PM

Don't forget the baby Benjamin Bratt yuminess.

Posted by: Brigette at April 11, 2008 1:05 PM

Bev M. best Snipes line in that movie to follow:

The scene...chasing the crispy vamp through the hospital. Security shoots him in his chestiful body armor. He cocks his head, and going ultrasonic with the pitch of his voice, queries of them:

"Mutha'fukka! Are you ooutta your damn mind?!" I replay that 10 seconds 4 or 5 times every time i watch that movie.

Posted by: PissBoy at April 11, 2008 1:07 PM

Posted by: PissBoy at April 11, 2008 1:11 PM

If you pay attention during one of the scenes near the beginning, another frozen guy is listed as "Scott Peterson". Means a whooooole new thing all these years later.

Posted by: feramones at April 11, 2008 1:11 PM

I am too for enjoying this movies. Anybody curious for where he is now? I hear he's injecting horse-tranquilizers at www.imoldbutillstillfuckingkillyoumillionaire.com. Check him out!

Posted by: Spambotimus Canthinkofshit at April 11, 2008 1:20 PM

LOVE the review title. All I have to say.

Posted by: Todd at April 11, 2008 1:21 PM

PB, that may be the best Snipes line, but my heart will eternally belong to-

"I'm gonna be naughty. I'm gonna be a naughty vampire god!"

Posted by: twig at April 11, 2008 1:30 PM

Can anyone explain why I always get this and Judge Dredd mixed up? As I was reading the (excellent) review, I kept wondering why there was no mention of Diane Lane, or Max von Sydow. Is it the Schneider factor that's mashed these two movies together into an epic shitstorm clusterfuck called Demolition Dredd?

Brain hurt now. Brain need beer.

Posted by: Groundloop at April 11, 2008 1:44 PM

There must be some sort of odd chemical reaction that oozes through my TV screen when Stallone & Schneider are together on film. Because, I CANNOT leave my house or change the channel if I stumble across either Demolition Man or Judge Dredd. I realize that Dredd is so bad it's just bad, but I can't resist. Just. Can't. Resist.

Posted by: Smello at April 11, 2008 1:45 PM

"I'm gonna be naughty. I'm gonna be a naughty vampire god!"

How have I never seen this movie?!

I need to watch Blade ASAP.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 1:47 PM

Let's go blow this guy!

I effing love this movie. LOVE it. It never fails to amuse me how ALL restaurants are Taco Bell, because, you know, they won the franchise wars.

I would like you to accompany me ... to Taco Bell.

Posted by: Cady at April 11, 2008 1:51 PM

Whoa, wait....late again, Jack FREAKIN'BLACK is in this??? Admittedly, it's been a long ass time since I've seen it, but JEEEEEEZ!

Posted by: dammitjanet at April 11, 2008 2:01 PM

"What happens to be your boggle?"

Come on, how can you not love this movie? It's got Edgar Friendly, Taco Bell, the Three Seashells, Sandra Bullock in her yummy prime, the Verbal Morality Statute...and on and on and on.

Not all films have to be witty and cool and indie, people. There should always be a place for dumb action flicks that make you giggle and manage to make fun of action movie cliches while simultaneously falling into them. I put Demolition Man into the same category as Last Action Hero, another much-maligned early/mid-nineties box office failure featuring one of our two favorite roid-head action stars. Yes, they're "bad" in the sense that they're not going to win any Oscars, but should every film be trying to achieve that ultimate goal? Or should it be okay for some films to be enjoyably bad, winking at the audience while they blow some more shit up? As long as I'm not treated like an idiot (hello, Brett Ratner, you king of douches), I'll continue paying money to see these kinds of movies.

Posted by: Abe Froman at April 11, 2008 2:13 PM

Wow, dammitjanet, I don't remember seeing Jack Black as one of the "scraps" either. Guess I'll have to watch this again soon.

Although does anyone remember seeing Tenacious D in Bio-Dome? It appears that Mr. Black had quite a number of small appearances before his big break getting his freakin' arm blown off in The Jackal.

Posted by: Sean at April 11, 2008 2:18 PM

Not all films have to be witty and cool and indie, people.

Abe, what makes me love this place is that most of us here seem to love this movie, in all its craptastic explosion-y goodness :)

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 2:18 PM

Let's go blow this guy!

"You really matched his meet! You really licked his ass!"

Posted by: twig at April 11, 2008 2:21 PM

"Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?"
"Eeewww, disgusting! You mean...fluid transfer?!"

Hee.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 2:23 PM

Julie,

I can vouch for Blade I and II, though Blade I is the best, and one of the better comic-book movies that's been made. Blade III is only worth watching for Ryan Reynolds, although it is worth watching for Ryan Reynolds.

Posted by: twig at April 11, 2008 2:24 PM

I pose the question: What ISN'T worth watching for Ryan Reynolds?

nothing, my friends, nothing isn't worth watching for Ryan Reynolds

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 2:29 PM

wow...that was some interesting grammer....

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 2:29 PM

Also worth mentioning from Blade III is Patton Oswalt's brief but amusing appearance.

...

Shit, I'm not kidding anyone. I love all of the Blade movies. I have all the DVDs and saw all three in the theater. They combine several of my biggest movie weaknesses: vampires, swords, and people who can jump off of very high places and land coolly on their feet.

Posted by: Sean at April 11, 2008 2:30 PM

I saw about 10 gloriously bloody moments of Blade, and about 20 gloriously abs-tastic minutes of Blade III. Somehow though...that's it.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 2:30 PM

Bethy...ABS(see what I did there?!)olutely.

I just need ten minutes with him...just give me ten minutes.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 2:32 PM

Julie, I'm gonna take a guess and say that was the first ten minutes of Blade? Oh man, oh man that is one of my favorite opening sequences in a movie ever.

nothing, my friends, nothing isn't worth watching for Ryan Reynolds

Grammar be damned, that's motto material there. This is when I wish I knew Latin.

Posted by: twig at April 11, 2008 2:33 PM

new Pajiba motto

"(some latin words)...Ryan Reynolds...(some latin words)....ABS....(some latin words)....HOT!!!"

and Julie, not if I get to him first. I can run pretty fast when the prize at the end is that pretty

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 2:37 PM

I think so Twig...where they're all in the club and it starts raining blood and the vampires get all slurpy chompy? Badass.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 2:38 PM

Julie: What you need ten minutes for, I can accomplish in five. He'll hardly even know I was there...except for the confused grin he won't be able to wipe off of his face all day.

Posted by: feramones at April 11, 2008 2:38 PM

Ah yes, but Feramones what you can accomplish in five I can accomplish MULTIPLE times in ten :)

But Bethy, I'm a dirty fighter, and not at all adverse to hair-pulling, scratching, and bra-strap snapping.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 2:41 PM

Curses! Foiled again! (and again, and again, and again....)

Can we share? You had me at "hair-pulling".

Posted by: feramones at April 11, 2008 2:45 PM

Twig,

I believe it's "I'm gonna be naughty. I'm gonna be a naughty BLOOD god!"

But agreed, best line.

Posted by: Boogs at April 11, 2008 2:47 PM

It's Ryan-Reynolds-Girl-Fight-Sandwich night here at Pajiba!

This was the international poster (I think) featuring Mr. Reynolds, btw.

Posted by: twig at April 11, 2008 2:47 PM

but see Julie, you already got a cold-dead John Krasinski...so I figure you've had more than your fair share of ill-gotten eye candy

but if you still want to persue my Ryan, I will have you know I have a toolbox stock full of nasty architectural tools at my beck and call

you really don't want to know what I can do to somebody with a lead holder, x-acto blade and a flexible rule

(by the by, how to you get the new fangled HTML tags to work?)

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 2:49 PM

Boogs; IMDB gives it up as 'vampire'. I hope I'm not wrong, I already got chastised once this week for misspelling 'Sysiphisian.'

Posted by: twig at April 11, 2008 2:50 PM

I thought Jack Black's triumphant debut was getting vaporized by a Martian as Billy Glenn in Mars Attacks! I love that movie.
"They blew up Congress!" [laughs and points]

Posted by: thejodester at April 11, 2008 2:53 PM

I must be the one person who didn't get what the hell Donal Logue was doing there and never bought it. Too schlubby to be scary for me, I guess. But I like them more as just "I know both Karate AND Karazy" beat-em-ups, so I probably like III the best. And going back to Passenger 57 I do enjoy Wesley in his "don't you get that I'm the shit??!!?" hero mode. It was funny to see him being the grouch with Jessica and Ryan too.

Posted by: Jay at April 11, 2008 2:54 PM

I thought Jack Black's triumphant debut was getting vaporized by a Martian as Billy Glenn in Mars Attacks! I love that movie.


You even know his character's name?

Kudos for appreciating that glorious redheaded stepchild.

What the fuck is wrong with people???? It's great!!!

I mean........fuck!!!

Sorry, that's about 11 years of resentment I've held onto.

(I know, I know, Jack...I'm an adult, I should just cope)

Posted by: Jay at April 11, 2008 3:00 PM

You wouldn't even believe how long I thought that this movie and Judge Dredd were one in the same. Even today, there are times I have trouble distinguishing certain scenes between the two...

yet, I do honestly enjoy watching both of them.

Posted by: Colin at April 11, 2008 3:00 PM

But Bethy!! Ryan is so warm...and HARD. :p

For the html tags (I have to type it out instead of providing examples, since typing it would only bold or italicize the text): if you want to make something bold, type a greater than sign, then b, then the less than sign, then the text you want in bold, then to close the tag do another greater than sign, backslash, b, then the less than sign. Same goes for italics, except you use an i.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 3:00 PM

HTML test #1, comencing....now

Julie, thanks for the help! as payment, I will give you slight headstart in the Race for Ryan (its got a name now, so everybody knows we're serious) to give you the impression you are doing well and that boost of self-confidence. Unfortunatly, it will be to no avail, as I have hijacked the MurderTank (keep that bit o' information on the downlow) and we all know that has been souped out to the max and no other land vehicle can match it for speed (or murderous tendacies).

( ok, I apparently need to cut back on the caffine...yikes)

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 3:06 PM

damn! so close......

eventually I will master this, until then, I apologize to everybody in advance for the onslaught of bold and italics that they will be hit with

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 3:08 PM

Oh, the Race for Ryan is ON, and I will WIN.

Why? Because I have a jet pack and a Super Soaker filled with mace.

And you have now invoked the wrath of the Godtopus by stealing the Murdertank...how did you so stealthily take the key from around his neck?

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 3:10 PM

Make sure you close the tag...the first tag is without the backslash, the closing tag is with it. The text should be snugly nestled betwixt the two...like how Ryan Reynolds' face will be in between my heaving breasts when I win the race.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 3:13 PM

Bethy... I found this page to be very useful. That should help you get the hang of it.

Posted by: TK at April 11, 2008 3:13 PM

I relayed Manny's story to him, and while he was laughing himself to unconciousness, I ever so carefully slipped the key off

then ran like hell

this will probably end badly for me, but my goal is to violate Ryan in many unspeakable ways before Godtopus smites me where I (hopefully) lay....

you would't deprive a girl of her dying wish, would you?

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 3:17 PM

Thanks TK!

so Julie, if you win (which you won't), you plan on suffecating Ryan afterwards so nobody else can have him? very clever, very clever....

I must say, I was not expecting so formidable a foe....

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 3:21 PM

hey! I did it!!

[does a happy dance]

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 3:22 PM

Could it be that the previously infallible (!) IMDB is wrong??!! Say it ain't so! It's definitely BLOOD god, though (spoken by the immortal [in this case, almost quite literally] Donal Logue).

Posted by: Boogs at April 11, 2008 3:25 PM

feromones, Bethy, and my Julie....

Ryan-Reynolds-Girl-Fight-Sandwich = Hot!!!

Continue...I'll just sit back and watch...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at April 11, 2008 3:34 PM

You should have been better prepared Bethy, we all know that I enjoy my men any way I can get them...with or without pulses.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 3:35 PM

Boogs, as someone who's seen Blade more times than I care to admit... I'm pretty certain it's naughty vampire god.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: TK at April 11, 2008 3:37 PM

Julie & Bethy: I definitely think we should work together on this one. I mean, what if his glorious abs put you in a trance-like state and there's nobody there to snap you out of it?

opportunity fucking wasted.

Posted by: feramones at April 11, 2008 3:46 PM

ahh....but you see, I have already found my way to Ryan's house, drugged him, and laid a complex web of booby (hehe) traps in a 5 mile radius of what I am now calling Ryan and Bethy's House of Passion and Bliss

tread lightly Julie...tread lightly....

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 3:46 PM

TK/Twig,

OK. Now you have me second-guessing myself. Lest this thread turn into a perpetual "yes-it-is, no-it-isn't" pedantathon, can someone check this on YouTube (if they have it) or at home (if they're there right now)? I'm at work, and military network firewalls block YouTube (in case we see something positive about Hillary or Obama or, god forbid, negative about that paean to perpetual Patriotism, the beloved John McCain!).

Posted by: Boogs at April 11, 2008 3:47 PM

I'm with Feramones if only because Bethy is totally going to beat me to him, and god dammit I will NOT concede defeat. I'd rather share.

Feramones, you're like King Solomon.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 3:49 PM

feramones, fear not, I have applied a special "anti-Ryan's glorious abs trance" coating to my glasses

I am now what you call "invincible"

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 3:49 PM

Julie, I think Bethy's just pulling these ideas straight outta her ass.

Plus, I know where they keep the MurderTank's spare. The minute she gets out we can crash the house and kidnap him. Nacho station, martini bar, and hot loving inside an indestructible death machine...is it still kidnapping if the guy doesn't even want to be saved?

Posted by: feramones at April 11, 2008 3:55 PM

TK: naughty umpire god?

Posted by: twig at April 11, 2008 3:58 PM

wait, you guys are setting up a nacho station and martini bar? well hell....that totally beats my make your own english muffin pizza table....

[sheepishly siddles up to Julie and feramones]

what do you say?
room for one more in the house?
I hear I make an excellent pot roast......

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 4:00 PM

Oh good...the cat fighting's over...and the loving can begin...let me just make sure the MurderTankā„¢'s remote internal video cameras are still working...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at April 11, 2008 4:08 PM

is it still kidnapping if the guy doesn't even want to be saved?

NOPE. God bless Stockholm Syndrome.

Ok FINE, Bethy, but that better be a damned fine pot roast. Shadows is going to get hungry while watching us through his viewfinder.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 4:12 PM

oh, it'll be the best damn pot roast you've ever tasted

now...where do you keep the horseradish....

and since Shadows is in the MurderTank already, think he can run out and get some potatos and onions?

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 4:25 PM

God, I'm so lost I can't tell if the pot roast is some sort of kinky allusion or not.

I'll go get the 'potatoes and onions.' Whatever that is, you freaks.

Posted by: twig at April 11, 2008 4:30 PM

Okay, fine, sure, I can go get groceries and drinks for everyone (we don't want to return the MurderTankā„¢ to Skitt with its reserves depleted...

but you DAMN WELL BETTER not start without me...

A guy's got to have some standards...I may let you have Julie...but I get to watch...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at April 11, 2008 4:41 PM

First taco dip, now pot roast is forever sullied. Yay.

Shadows, we wouldn't dare, we'll even set up a lifeguard chair for your viewing pleasure, complete with ONE card that lets you tag yourself in.

Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2008 4:46 PM

you guys are slowly but surely killing all the foods I know and love....

and Shadows, you better damn well count yourself among the luckiest men on the face of the earth for this, thats all I'm saying

Posted by: Bethy at April 11, 2008 4:52 PM

In the sports bar next to the place where I took driver's ed, there was a Demolition Man pinball machine. I wanna go back there and play it now.

Posted by: Tin lizzie at April 11, 2008 6:10 PM

PB -- This could go on for awhile!
Deacon: "I'll tell ya what we are, sista, we're the top of the f***in' foodchain!"

Julie -- GO. SEE. BLADE. NOW.

Posted by: Bev M. at April 11, 2008 6:26 PM

While everyone's busy in the MT...
I loved the scene where they went into the underground and Stallone swapped his watch for a burger, then Sandra Bullock was all 'I don't see any cows down here'. But when Stallone found he was really eating a rat burger he had the courage of his convictions and kept eating (it couldn't have been more unhealthy, and at least the rats would have been free range).

Posted by: ChrisD at April 11, 2008 6:40 PM

But....does Sandra Bullock here win over the also unseen Diane Lane in "Judge Dredd"?

Sandra high-kicks the hell out of some Mook in her tight-pants San Angeles PD uniform. So, yeah, she wins.

Blade III is only worth watching for Ryan Reynolds, although it is worth watching for Ryan Reynolds.

Jessica Biel in full-on ActionGirl mode, is good, very good.

Posted by: Meander at April 11, 2008 6:52 PM

Oh Bethy...I really, really do. As will all the hipsters I sell the video to.

Just kidding!!!

(You guys will get your cuts, I swear)

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at April 11, 2008 7:01 PM

Didn't anyone else notice how annnnnnnnoying Sandra Bullock's character was in this movie? Wait. How many N's in annnnnnnnnnoying? Probably not enough.

She grated upon my nerves and I was unable to forgive her until I stumbled upon Love Potion Number 9 on cable one Sunday afternoon. Hangover, anyone? Yeah, baby.

Posted by: greer at April 11, 2008 7:03 PM

I used to worship Sandra. Seriously. Had ever movie she was ever in, on VHS and on DVD. I liked her.... She was the epitome of cute girl next door with sass. She played that role well. Loved her in When the Party's Over. Adored her in Demolition Man. Worshipped her in Fire on the Amazon (shut up, I'm still a guy). Speed was fantastic. The Net was cheesy but she saved it from being hopeless. Even While You Were Sleeping was a pretty good romcom.

Then she started to relish that role. Doing movies that only were romcoms that showcased that role. She started to become a one-trick pony. No versatility. No challenge. Despite my worship...she was starting to bore me. By the time Murder by Numbers came around, I was already meh'd out on her.

It depresses me, ya know? Now, I don't even know what she's up to. The last straw was Crash. That was just godawful. I mean....awful.

I really don't know why I just said all that...except, maybe to say...just because someone was great, doesn't mean they stay great.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at April 11, 2008 7:12 PM

Mental note: don't post on Pajiba when you're half drunk and...otherwise...mentally distracted

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at April 11, 2008 7:14 PM

If you've ever lived in Japan, you'll be stunned at how Demolition Man mirrors life in Tokyo. Western TV shows are taken out of context (I cringed when a friend there proudly told me she loved "Diff'rent Strokes"). Groupthink abounds, and societal goals seem eerily similar to Cocteau's. It was the first movie I saw that I could use to explain to my friends what living in Tokyo was like. Of course, Lost in Translation later came and trumped the movie, but it is still a guilty pleasure.

Posted by: MrMischevous at April 11, 2008 7:22 PM

Hell, Mr. Dakaron, a beer or two on an empty stomach can really get the juices going. And again, we don't know your name.


YET.

But you've provided very few clues to work with. Clever boy.

Besides, either my Police joke was as bad as I acknowledged it to be, or no one knew what I was talking about, so you're doing okay. Now, if there was hypothetically some appendage of Sandra's that was somehow going to poke out of your neck, THEN I would say "shit, man, I think he's drunk". I think I've only ever seen Love Potion #9, The Vanishing, The Thing Called Love and Miss Congeniality but, yeah, crushable. What if, say, Sandra and Marisa Tomei and Jennifer Tilly all got together for some kind of really good, interesting ensemble thing? That'd be somethin, huh?

Oh and the "kicking mooks in the tight pants" observation is duly noted.

Posted by: Jay at April 11, 2008 7:53 PM

"...What if, say, Sandra and Marisa Tomei and Jennifer Tilly all got together for some kind of really good, interesting ensemble thing? That'd be somethin, huh?..."

Ack...my mind just broke...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at April 11, 2008 8:11 PM

Ah, yes, I vaguely remember this movie.

Something about wiping your ass with seashells and having freaky cybersex with motorcycle helmets.

I think that I'd rather be covered in my own cooling vomit than watch this again. Once was enough on my fragile seven-year-old psyche.

Also: wikipedia seems to have a random fucking article about the Demolition Man pinball machine, if anyone's interested in taking a gander.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demolition_Man_%28pinball%29

It comes with the CRYO-CLAW mode, which I'm sure after competing grants you a sweet-ass weapon that comes with the capability of shaking babies and stealing souls.

Posted by: Jaci at April 11, 2008 8:21 PM

"...What if, say, Sandra and Marisa Tomei and Jennifer Tilly all got together for some kind of really good, interesting ensemble thing? That'd be somethin, huh?..."

Dancing at the Blue Iguana (2000)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217355/

Posted by: Meander at April 11, 2008 9:31 PM

When this was first released, I was the spitting image of Sandra Bullock. Unfortunately, she got hotter and I just got older.

Posted by: eiluj at April 11, 2008 10:13 PM

The late Nigel Hawthorne admitted a couple of years later that he didn't really enjoy making this movie and only signed on for one reason.
He had played King George on stage in the West End, but thought he wouldn't get the part in the upcoming movie version unless he upped his Hollywood profile. Sad, but true.

Posted by: Simon B at April 12, 2008 6:19 AM

"Mental note: don't post on Pajiba when you're half drunk and...otherwise...mentally distracted"

Shadows, that is the best time to post on Pajiba.

Posted by: greer at April 12, 2008 10:18 AM

He is a cuttie, he is my favorite. I love him. I saw him on"SeekingRich.com"last week. I am wondering what kind of relationship he is looking for on that site.

Posted by: Nana at April 12, 2008 10:44 AM

I am pissed that i dont have cinimax right now! I remember watching this when i was 11. . . oh the memories. The topless, wet blonde that "accidentally" calls john spartan, hello sexual awakening! It's actually kind of sad that a sylvester stallone movie is responsible for my maturing in some fashion. . .

Posted by: adam at April 12, 2008 10:57 AM

Demolition Man is one of my favorite all time movies. Is it because it is so very socially conscious? Is it because it leads one to think about the human condition and the betterment of society? Is it because of the superb acting, direction, and visualization of the politics of fear and corruption? Has it any redeeming social or artistic value. No, no, a thousand times no! It is just simply just about the most fun movie (well, basically guy movie, I'll admit) of all time. The dialogue is to die for; Edgar Friendly's speech, Lenina's broken one-liners, Garcia's little boy adoration of jingles. Oh, come on! When they start singing Armour Hot Dogs in harmony (sort of), how crazy is that? The sweater knitting, Taco Bell, the three sea shells, "if you would prefer an automated response please press 1". Some movies are just delightful, boneheaded fun which, admittedly, one sometimes has to exert a bit more effort than usual to suspend their disbelief. So, how come Phoenix has to tell Spartan he's standing in gasoline; he can't smell it? Phoenix can really toss a guy through plate glass (or whatever it is) when he can't kick through it? Do you really see cows around in any city (or anyplace else, for that matter; maybe we are eating rats right now)? Whether Demolition Man is so completely over the top on purpose of they just got lucky, who cares! It is a delightful, delicious, guilty pleasure...pretty much like Taco Bell.

Posted by: fidlrjiffy at April 12, 2008 11:24 AM

What fortuitous chance be this? As I catch up on this weeks Pajiba, home on a Saturday night with a cold, I flip thru my TiVo and great goodly-moogly! "Demolition Man" is on! Thanks you Cinemax!

Posted by: Ciji at April 12, 2008 11:16 PM

"They were already dead!"

Posted by: NF at April 13, 2008 2:04 AM

"is it still kidnapping if the guy doesn't even want to be saved?"

Sounds like the definition of marriage.

Posted by: Lindsey at April 13, 2008 3:35 PM

"is it still kidnapping if the guy doesn't even want to be saved?"

Sounds like a definition of marriage.

Posted by: Lindsey at April 13, 2008 3:38 PM

So I am new here, and a little overwhelmed by the comments, so forgive me if someone has already addressed this.

But I hate this movie solely for the fact I have to stare at Stallone's nubbin hanging from the ceiling every time I go eat at Planet Hollywood.*

*I never eat at Planet Hollywood.**

**OK, yes I do.

Posted by: dmbmeg at April 15, 2008 5:13 PM

"Away, you blow them away!"

Ah, how I loved that movie! All these quotes are making me nostalgic, must rewatch.

We never found out how to use the three seashells, either.

Posted by: arjumand at April 16, 2008 9:29 AM

"picking up by the neck and crotch"

You actually want to touch Rob Schneider's crotch??

Posted by: brubaker at April 17, 2008 3:18 PM



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