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What's Wrong with You?

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Comment Diversions | Comments (317)



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Today’s comment diversion gives you all a chance to take swipes at the collective tastes of the Pajiba staff and its readership. It comes from Cree83, who posited this diversion in an email:

Which Pajiba darling (actor, director, whatever) do you secretly or not so secretly dislike and why? Example: mine is Alyson Hannigan. She gets a lot of love from Pajiba commenters, and she does seem like a nice person, but I hate her acting style. It’s like she’s saying her lines twice as slow as everyone else. So that’s my suggestion, if you guys take them, and if it’s not too mean spirited.

I love the notion that Cree83 believes that there’s a topic too mean-spirited for this readership.

So have at it, folks. I only ask that you take it easy on a certain, well-sculpted individual with a name that rhymes with Shyan Sheynolds.









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Comments

I hate TK.

There, I said it! FREEDOM!!!!

Posted by: boo at April 15, 2009 4:04 PM

No way, Ryan Reynolds it is. When i was 14, my masturbatory height, my little brother used to commandeer the tv and turn that show about the pizza place way the fuck up. That mans voice ruined many a wank, for which he will never be forgiven.

Posted by: david at April 15, 2009 4:04 PM

Oh, you don't really mean a Pajiba persona, do you.

Damn. I fail at life. But my hate lives on!!!

YOU HEAR ME, SWEATERVESTMAN???

Posted by: boo at April 15, 2009 4:05 PM

I hate Ryan Reynolds, responsible for the Homersexualizationing of one Dustin Rowles.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 15, 2009 4:05 PM

You juss jealous.

Posted by: boo at April 15, 2009 4:06 PM

Well I remember a time when everyone was all googly-goo over Eliza Dushku. I'm pretty sure she's right up there with Lindsey Lohan for me in terms of actual talent. Otherwise, the Pajibans seem to be spot on.

Posted by: Kiki at April 15, 2009 4:07 PM

I hate myself.

I feel so unburdened now.

Posted by: twig at April 15, 2009 4:07 PM

I fucking loathe Conrad...

Posted by: Skitz at April 15, 2009 4:10 PM

Jeremy is an asshole. I feel sorry for his brother.

Posted by: Conrad (last name withheld) at April 15, 2009 4:11 PM

HA HA! Successful thread jack.

I am the white bitchface devil today.

Posted by: boo at April 15, 2009 4:11 PM

Hey gang! Michael bay here!

I hate you Tyler Perry! Hate, hate, hate you!

Michael Bay, signing off!

Posted by: Michael Bay at April 15, 2009 4:12 PM

I never really cared for Alyson Hannigan when she was on Buffy. But ever since she went without the red hair on How I Met Your Mother I think she is the cutest thing there is.

And I don't have much against Ryan Reynolds. But he gets way too much attention on this site. If you're going to fawn over a guy at least make it NPH. That man can do no wrong.

Posted by: Dave at April 15, 2009 4:13 PM

Aw man. I saw the title and thought I could unload with all the stupid shit I've been too ashamed to tell my friends. Guess it will have to wait till I'm drunk.

Posted by: grinder at April 15, 2009 4:13 PM

Seth Rogen. I just really, really dislike looking at him (chubby or thin) and do not find him amusing. Also, I feel he is the reason I didn't like Zach and Miri as much as I wanted to, so I resent him for that.

Posted by: PallasJay at April 15, 2009 4:14 PM

I don't really think I like Seth Rogan. I'll accept the blows to the head now, thanks.

Posted by: Mrcreosote at April 15, 2009 4:14 PM

I wouldn't mind treating Prisco to some blade work, real slow.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 15, 2009 4:17 PM

I *hate* Maggie Gyllenhaal (except for Secretary). I can't see her without thinking she is very smug and kind of mean.

Posted by: Lee at April 15, 2009 4:17 PM

True Romance.

I regret nothing.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at April 15, 2009 4:18 PM

I don't get the Kevin Smith thing. He seems like an okay guy, I just don't care for his films.

Posted by: kelsy at April 15, 2009 4:19 PM

Didn't like The Sopranos

The Decemberists do nothing for me.

Don't give a rip about Lost, 24, or Doctor Who.

Thought Sports Night was overrated.

Think World of Warcraft, Everquest, and The Sims are supertard.

I've seen one episode of ER.

I've seen about ten episodes of Futurama.

Albinos creep me out.

There. Done...

Posted by: Skitz at April 15, 2009 4:19 PM

Also Arrested Development.

I regret even less than I did before when I regretted nothing.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at April 15, 2009 4:19 PM

OH! OH! Diblo Cody and all her cronies.

I've got your eggo-preggo *RIGHT HERE,* stripper.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 15, 2009 4:20 PM

Actually, I usually feel ashamed to admit I liked things the Pajiberati deems unworthy. Like...


Juno.

Posted by: Macafee at April 15, 2009 4:20 PM

*diablo (pfft whatever)

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 15, 2009 4:20 PM

Heath Ledger was a talented guy but no way did he deserve the Oscar for his twitchy, tedious, one-note performance in The Dark Knight. And while I'm on the subject, TDK itself was an adequate way to spend a summer afternoon, not -- as some have asserted -- the best and most awesomest genre movie of all time or whatever.

There, I said it. I feel much better now, thanks.

Posted by: Kate at April 15, 2009 4:21 PM

I can't think of any! Am I so brain-washed? I'll probably think of one once everybody has already posted and I'll be stuck posting "Me Too" like some brain-dead AOLer.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at April 15, 2009 4:21 PM

I hate Paul Rudd.

Ok, I lied. I actually adore Paul Rudd. I just couldn't think of anyone I do hate who isn't also hated by most Pajibans, like Scarjo or Rainbow Killer.

Posted by: Kolby at April 15, 2009 4:21 PM

I know everyone loves Veronica Mars, but dammit, Kristen Bell annoys me.

Posted by: battgirl at April 15, 2009 4:21 PM

HA HA HA HA! Boo wins.

I'm tempted to put down The Wire, but it would hurt me too much to even lie about that. The biggest Pajiban darling I'm not a fan of is Brick. I just thought it was pretentious and boring. Yes yes, I KNOW.

Also:
Moulin Rouge-is too loud, too bright, and the scenery chewing makes me weep inside.
The Host-made me sleepy. And I wanted to love it so much.

And for as much as I love Firefly (I own both the series and Serenity), I do think it's flawed and not quite the OMG Best Show EVER!! that it's often described as.

Posted by: Julie at April 15, 2009 4:22 PM

"30 Rock." I'm not saying it's bad -- Alec Baldwin should win a lifetime Emmy for Donaghy -- I just think it gets a pretty hard sell because of how few decent comedies there are.

And, Skitz, absolute agreement on "Sports Night." I've never understood the love for that show. Not funny. Not compelling.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at April 15, 2009 4:23 PM

Goddamn fucking Juno. Seriously, why did everyone like this movie?

And, thanks to Juno, I hate Ellen Page.

Fuck you, Ellen. Fame ruined you.

And Bleaker. I hate Bleaker. Is that how you say his name?

Fuck Bleaker.

Posted by: annoyingmouse at April 15, 2009 4:25 PM

I usually feel ashamed to admit I liked things the Pajiberati deems unworthy.

A good alt-diversion; I'm continually surprised by the put-downs directed at The English Patient 'round these parts. It's a great movie, so suck it.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at April 15, 2009 4:25 PM

Nathan Fillion. All right actor, decent-looking "regular guy," seems like a nice enough dude...but he's so very average to me. So very...Canadian. Yes.

Posted by: Geetch at April 15, 2009 4:25 PM

30 Rock is NOT the best comedy on TV. It's not even the best comedy on Thursday nights.

Posted by: TylerDFC at April 15, 2009 4:26 PM

That movie, in the banner at the top of the site, the one with the guy holding the boombox over his head? Snooooooore.

Posted by: admin at April 15, 2009 4:26 PM

Ok, I've thought of three: I've never seen Firefly, Battlestar Galactica or The Wire, which doesn't necessarilty mean that I will instantly hate any of them, but it's not like I'm in a hurry to see them. Catch my drift?

Posted by: Kolby at April 15, 2009 4:26 PM

Oh! 30 Rock! I've watched maybe three episodes and I didn't find it funny at all.

Posted by: Macafee at April 15, 2009 4:26 PM

Oops. Almost forgot this one - I don't care about pro sports. Period.

There is absolutely nothing about them that interest me. I'll watch a highlights clip, but after that it's yawnsville. As far as entertainment goes, I'd rather organize my friggin' spice drawer. I'll go to a high school baseball/football/basketball/hockey game, but other than that? Nope. I have no team allegiance. I quote no stats. I've never owned a piece of team memorabilia. No shirts, stickers, caps or pins.

There you have it.

Posted by: Skitz at April 15, 2009 4:27 PM

can't get past the first few eps of the wire on account of it being infinity billion times worse than the shield.

Posted by: trippdup at April 15, 2009 4:29 PM

Well, I don't really dislike Battlestar Galactica, I just feel that if I ever saw it was on, I would not think twice about changing the channel. I've never seen it but it seems rather dull.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at April 15, 2009 4:29 PM

Kristen Bell can't act her way out of a fucking paper bag. She couldn't even play a semi-famous actress in Forgetting Sarah Marshall convincingly.

If you can't play YOURSELF, you fail.

Posted by: Big Daddy Bacchus at April 15, 2009 4:30 PM

oh and tracy morgan. he is the complete antithesis of funny.

Posted by: trippdup at April 15, 2009 4:30 PM

BORAT was a horrible movie
I also found Napoleon Dynamite to have consistancy of dogshit.
The first season of Lost was great but the rest didn't wet my whistle.

Posted by: badalamenti at April 15, 2009 4:30 PM

Kristen Bell. Can't stand her.

Posted by: MG at April 15, 2009 4:32 PM

I hate the entire Apatowian clan of dipshits, whores, no talents hacks and fat fucks.
God, do I hate them all.
I also hate the stupids fucks who love'em.
Yes, I have some kind of death wish.

Posted by: grinder at April 15, 2009 4:32 PM

While I get that they are mindless explosion filled cannolis of suck...

I like Jerry Bruckheimer and Michael Bay type movies.

And I'm looking forward to Transformers 2.

I feel clean and dirty... I feel clirty.

Posted by: antietam at April 15, 2009 4:32 PM

Ben Folds.

Cram it, Rowles.

Posted by: TK at April 15, 2009 4:33 PM

Unpopular Stuff I Like For Which You Can Bite My Sweet Behind:

The Big Bang Theory
John Mayer
Ben Stiller
The Dave Matthews Band
The Barenakes Ladies

I will refrain from posting more, lest I be beaten with my copy of the Lilywhite Sessions.


Posted by: Julie at April 15, 2009 4:33 PM

It's been a while since I've been around these parts, so maybe I'm not alone on this one, but I thought Children of Men sucked some major old man balls, aside from the Clive Owen eye candy.

Posted by: Noxbu at April 15, 2009 4:35 PM

I hate people. There, I said it, and that includes all of you assholes. I would be A-OK with a third world war destroying humanity. I would be completely willing to sacrifice myself in order to get rid of everybody else. My cat's ok though, he's chill and he is standing on my lap at the moment. It makes it very hard to type. So to all you motherfuckers that hate my cat: FUCK YOU I hope you die in the first wave of H-bombs.

Posted by: the_wakeful at April 15, 2009 4:35 PM

I was underwhelmed by Spaced. Reluctant to drop in the second series disc for months now.

Sorry 'bout that.

Posted by: Adere at April 15, 2009 4:36 PM

Oh, and I've laughed more than a few times at Three and a Half Men. That's right. It's crude and formulaic, but by Godtopus, if I happen to catch an episode in sindication, that shit makes me giggle.

I feel lighter somehow. Ahhhhh.

Posted by: Kolby at April 15, 2009 4:39 PM

I hate 'Obscure Indy Rock Band.'

By this I mean, i hate the perception that it's uncool to listen to any musician or band that doesn't wear tight, tight jeans, use the oldest antique instruments, has some pale chick blowing on a comb a one of the rhythm section, has gone multi-platinum. It seems like there's this notion around here that "we need to be as obscure as possible to prove our cool" when listing music/ipod preferences.

Case in point...who the fuck were eleventy-seven percent of the bands listed on the "Anticipated Albums of 2009"? So many big releases were ignored that it seemed...almost intentional on some people's parts. Just in the next 3 months there are new offering from:

Death Cab for Cutie (14th)
Depeche Mode
Jane's Addiction
Method Man & Redman
Green Day
Busta Rhymes
Eminem
311
Rancid
Incubus

Why aren't these anticipated? Have these bands begun to be unworthy because they have maintained some mainstream success and lost all indy-cred, haven't put out an album in almost 5 years, started Lollapalooza (1 of them) but now everyone is TOO COOL for Lollapalooza, consitantly bring the ruckus and form like Voltron, finally found how to rock, needs money for his defense fund, only pokes fun at the easy targets, got too old to chill out, punk is dead, or have a lead singer who has gotten too full of himself?

No...they should be anticipated because we need to see if they can go back to that sound that broke them in the first place, see if they can shake off the old age and cobwebs and still bring emotion, are working with Trent Fucking Reznor and sound amazing, constantly write the trickiness that will twist your skull, are maturing beyond 3 chords and into a great rock band, he needs money for his defense fund, his targets may be easy but the dude is still sick and it's fun to hear him tear down the tabloid statues, will ALWAYS funk up the party, can still smash your face with a Mickey's bottle, and...yeah...dude's a little full of himself, but his band sure can write good music.

Stop trying to outcool eachother. It's OK to listen to terrestrial radio and enjoy what plays.

Posted by: PissBoy at April 15, 2009 4:39 PM

Oh yeah...add Dave Matthews Band['s new album to that list too. Can they move on after a death within the band???

Posted by: PissBoy at April 15, 2009 4:41 PM

My husband is screeching behind me "Royal Tennenbaums! All of those Pajba people loved that movie, it SUCKS!"

God knows I have tried to get him to see the light, but it just isn't going to happen.

Posted by: courtney at April 15, 2009 4:41 PM

Ohhhh. I thought you were asking what's wrong with us. Share our major malfunctions. I don't need a diversion to grouse at sacred cows.

Posted by: Jay at April 15, 2009 4:41 PM

Naomi Watts.

And Cillian Murphy. That guy completely freaks me out.

Posted by: Annabanana at April 15, 2009 4:42 PM

I hated The Descent. It was not some new genre blasting awesomeness and it wasn't scary. Boom- roasted, er, disliked!

Posted by: Pinky McLadybits at April 15, 2009 4:43 PM

Oh PissBoy. That made me tear up a little. And seriously, I'm more excited for Green Day's new album than anything right now. Now excuse me as I listen to "Dancing Nancies" for the bajillionth time.

Posted by: Julie at April 15, 2009 4:45 PM

There is a lot of energy expended on this site about La Heigl. What gives? She's just some actress.

Whenever I see a Kevin Smith movie all I can think is, "Would you just shut the hell up?"

Mr. Henry and I don't get the Arrested Development thing. It's designed for people with the attention span of a gnat.

I don't get all of the hate for Paul Haggis either. I liked the movie Crash. Shall my name be stricken from the Book of Life?

30 Rock is not funny. It is not meta, it is not clever; it is a so-so sitcom with hacknied, predictable plots. Everytime we watch it AFTER the BEST sitcom on TV (and pray for Baldwin to appear and be amusing), we say "Why did we watch that?"

I was in New York with my mum and we were walking past the NBC store at Rockefeller Center and I saw a big poster for 30 Rock. I said, "That's a show the critics wet themselves over and it's not funny." It was then the man in front of me looked over his shoulder. It was Tracy Morgan. Serendipity.


Posted by: Henry at April 15, 2009 4:48 PM

I hate Joss Whedon. I don't think it's news, but I hate him and every actor associated with him, except Nathan Fillion. All of them.

I hate How I Met Your Mother. I don't find it funny at all. Never ever, have.

I don't think Jason Bateman is all that, and while I don't hate Arrested Development, I don't think it's as genius as most people here claim it is.

I hate Veronica Mars.

Most of the music in the musical posts.

I don't think Robert Downey, Jr. is that exciting. I don't like him, but he's overpraised here.

*phew*

I feel so unburdened now.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 4:49 PM

Ohhhh. I thought you were asking what's wrong with us.

Heeeee. Me too, I was all ready to list my procrastination and my terrible memory for multiplication tables :p

Posted by: Julie at April 15, 2009 4:49 PM

I enjoyed Independence Day immensely.

Eddie Izzard, aside from his role in The Riches, bores the piss out of me.

Demitri Martin is a one-trick pony, and the trick sucks.

I'm one hundred percent behind Geetch on the Fillion thing.

It's a Wonderful Life sucks. I'm not apologizing. I think it sucks.

I have never liked Johnny Depp in anything. Ever. He's vanilla yogurt.

I'll watch any movie Tom Cruise is in. He's fucking nuts, but the guy's good.

Aside from The Royal Tenenbaums, Wes Anderson = falling asleep.

I enjoyed Chocolate Starfish & The Hot Dog Flavored Water.

Reality Bites was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Posted by: Skitz at April 15, 2009 4:50 PM

kevin smith.
maggie gyllenhaal.
true romance.

Posted by: corleone1967 at April 15, 2009 4:50 PM

I, for one, am in SERIOUS anticipation of DM's new album. Only another week!

I really kinda love The Day After Tomorrow. And Independence Day, for that matter. I like love disaster movies.

Posted by: lizzieborden at April 15, 2009 4:50 PM

I think if you like BSG, you are a cylon. YOU ARE ALL CYLONS.

(I like Hootie and the Blowfish, Julie, so we could hang out sometime. . .and, you know, be white. Even though Hootie (I know his name is Darius, but really it's Hootie) is black, he's white. I'm white. Peace out).

Posted by: coveredinbees at April 15, 2009 4:51 PM

TOTALLY agree. I think he's unbelievably boring and looks like a skinny pimp.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 4:52 PM

And this will probably get me killed but:

I hate John Cusack. I hate him. I loved High Fidelity, but I hate everything else he has ever done.

Including 'Say Anything'. I cannot stand to look at his face, and I can't believe people find him attractive.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 4:53 PM

Pissboy, I owe you a stiff goddam drink. Well said...

Posted by: Skitz at April 15, 2009 4:54 PM

It's a Wonderful Life sucks. I'm not apologizing. I think it sucks.

OOH, me too! Hated it. I saw it for the first time last Christmas at my mom's, and as she and her friend sobbed on the couch I ran upstairs to my brother's room to laugh hysterically, calm myself, and come back down as to not hurt their feelings.

Coveredinbees, for some reason your Hootie comment made me want to eat a black and white cookie. Damn you.

Posted by: Julie at April 15, 2009 4:55 PM

One word: Statham.

I just don't get it.

Posted by: Spender at April 15, 2009 4:56 PM

That's funny, my comment made me want to watch Macaulay Culkin rap with Michael Jackson. The brain is a dangerous playground.

Posted by: coveredinbees at April 15, 2009 4:57 PM

-Don't like LOST

-Don't like Ryan Reynolds (turns out I kept thinking he's the guy from The Notebook, who I DO like, or at least, can't remember him from one movie to the next, so don't DISLIKE...)

-Think Zooey Deschanel SUX as an actress, oi, god, I wish I had my hour of Tin Man back!

-Chapelle Show, I chuckled when that guy Wayne was on, and "Rick JAMES, bitch!" is funny, but other than that???

-I am so over the man-child movie trend that I refuse to watch anything with Seth Rogen or that Bleaker guy. Enough is enough. Grow the fuck up. I had to do it, and it ain't that hard.

-Don't get all the Rainbow Killer hate. I am not saying I think she is god's gift to acting or nothing, I just don't get the hate.

-Southpark. Don't. get. the. funny. (until like 2 years later, so I guess it's just me)

Posted by: Stella at April 15, 2009 4:59 PM

Afternoon Comment Diversion:
They are always way too long by the time I make it to them five minutes after they were posted. Im always too lazy to read them all; I end up scrolling and some witty prick has come along and said everything I want to say but in a much better way.

Oh and someone find out what rock Alex the Odd is hiding under I need some more retrospectives on things from here in the UK.

Posted by: jim of the lower case at April 15, 2009 4:59 PM

And a P.S. to PissBoy:
If I want to know about
Death Cab for Cutie
Depeche Mode
Jane's Addiction
Method Man & Redman
Green Day
Busta Rhymes
Eminem
311
Rancid
Incubus...
I can check out Spin or Rolling Stone.
I'm here for the weird.

Posted by: Spender at April 15, 2009 5:00 PM

Skitz....TOTALLY. Choc Starfish....dug it. They're reuniting too. Might I give them a listen? Most definitely. I can harken back to my pre-millenium grumpitude and break shit to poundy-6-string-bass, powerchord stompmyfeet and pout music.

...it's theraputic.

Posted by: PissBoy at April 15, 2009 5:01 PM

Hot Fuzz! Am I really the only one who didn't think that was nearly as hilarious as it thought it was? Look, I loved Shaun of the Dead, but Hot Fuzz was like 2 1/2 hours long with jokes barely sprinkled in. The Michael Bay action movie parody has been done before (and Hot Fuzz is nothing close to Team America)

Posted by: c at April 15, 2009 5:03 PM

Ok, I do laugh sometimes, but for all the over-adulationizing this second tier writer/director gets I have to say out loud and proud that I cannot stand Judd Apatow. I get that he gives validity to all freaks and geeks out there, but come on, at best he aims higher than Sarah Silverman (who I hate also, but she has a rockin' body so she gets a pass) for poo-poo, caa-caa jokes.

Posted by: Duane at April 15, 2009 5:05 PM

Sci-fi in general. I cannot for the life of me get interested in anything that involves aliens. I dated a sci-fi lover and I really tried to get into it, but just found it kind of....dull. This includes, but is not limited to: Firefly, Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, Star Wars, Hitch hikers guide to the galaxy. Only thing sci-fi-ish I did enjoy was Ender's Game. I do however like classic mystery type stuff. (Agatha Christie/Sherlock Holmes) So feel free to make fun of me for that.

Posted by: ami at April 15, 2009 5:05 PM

You guys having fun? Good.

Let me throw some suck at you: The Grateful Dead. Phish. Fleet Foxes.

Ass on a sharp stick.

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at April 15, 2009 5:06 PM

Hot Fuzz, like Serenity, seemed like an extended episode of a show, if Hot Fuzz were a tv show, and Firefly was still, y'know, on.
Still. I laughed my fool head off at Hot Fuzz and Serenity, even if I do nod off every now and again.
It's the banter, really.
I love me some good banter.

Posted by: Stella at April 15, 2009 5:07 PM

I'm with figgy. I hate Joss Whedon. My hate for him knows no bounds. He seems like a genuinely good guy and all, and I like some of his societal critique, but I hate his writing. His dialogue is so fucking smug and self-aware and wink-wink-nudge-nudge and fucking stilted. I feel like all of his actors (and his characters) are just puppets with his hands up their asses, speaking with the same "voice". Etc. Etc.

Also, I liked TDK, but it wasn't good enough to warrant re-watching. Ledger's Oscar for that movie was just an apology for being snubbed for the award he SHOULD have won for his fucking spot-on portrayal of a cowboy in "Brokeback Mountain".

I do, however, like Robert Downey Jr. That man is indeed a charmer!

Posted by: teacupnosaucer at April 15, 2009 5:08 PM

I liked the movie Crash. Shall my name be stricken from the Book of Life?

/mutters to self, pores over large, dusty book, makes long strike-through in large, black marker.

Some things are not up for debate.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at April 15, 2009 5:09 PM

I used to really like Famliy Guy, but it's gotten very stale.

I used to really hate American Dad, but it's gotten better. Not as stale.

I used to pee my pants at night, but it's gotten better. Not at all stale.

I used to hate Firefly, and I still do. That show is so stale.

Posted by: annoyingmouse at April 15, 2009 5:09 PM

teacupnosaucer, your handle intrigues me.

Posted by: Stella at April 15, 2009 5:11 PM

Wow, I've only commented a couple of times and I feel like people are going to kill me for this one but...

I didn't really like Arrested Development. There, I said it.

And come to think of it, Rushmore sucked.

Posted by: Fletch at April 15, 2009 5:11 PM

I really can't stand anything Kevin Smith has ever done. Even his Jay Leno appearances make me throw up a little in my mouth. Fucking "Silent Bob". Is that all you've got?

I will say this - it's better than seeing Quentin Terribletino trying to act in his own movies.

Posted by: Codeman at April 15, 2009 5:11 PM

I don't find Nathan Fillion attractive. AT ALL.

Posted by: stardust savant at April 15, 2009 5:13 PM

I'm here for the weird.

That arguement in and of itself is self-contradictory. This page is about 14% weird, and 96% of that is in the music. Other than that, this is just pure pop-culture wrapped in wit and intelligence.

It's OK though. I won't tell anyone. Wouldn't want them not believing you were ironic enough for your ironic t-shirt.

I'm here for the weird.

And the funny thing about that...
Death Cab for Cutie used to be in the same population from which it is now shunned. As was Jane's Addiction. And Depeche Mode. And Busta Rhymes. And all of Wu-Tang. Do you stop being weird when you start being successful?

Posted by: PissBoy at April 15, 2009 5:13 PM

White people with dreads should be punched in the face. That goes double for white people with dreads that have chunks of wood and pottery and giant glass beads and other ridiculous shit in it. What the hell are you trying to prove/say? It can't possibly be comfortable to sleep with. It's hot. It looks like shit. Stop it.

PBR and Old Milwaukee. Pretty sure it had something to do with a goddam hipster revival or something. Bottom line? That beer tastes like shit. It has always tasted like shit. It tasted like shit ten years ago too, remember? So why the fuck is everybody chugging Pabst Tall Boys now?

Chuck Taylors. Had one pair. Eighth grade. Never needed to own another pair. I think they look stupid. Can't quite understand why they cost more than ten bucks...


Posted by: Skitz at April 15, 2009 5:13 PM

I totally agree with Rowles about Grateful Dead and Phish. That stuff is worse than a big bag of rotten ass.

Posted by: Codeman at April 15, 2009 5:14 PM

Oh, God..."There Will Be Blood"

What a piece of shit. It was like a parody of a movie. The acting from the preacher guy felt so...staged. Like he was playing a community theater version of a preacher written by an angry atheist.

The ONLY good thing I have to say about that movie is that the music was haunting, and even that is barely a compliment.

Was there even a plot? Ugh.

Posted by: VInce Noir at April 15, 2009 5:17 PM

I don't understand this attraction to Nathan Fillion. Or Ryan Reynolds. Or Heath Ledger. Or Megan Fox. Or The Incredibles.

Posted by: Robert at April 15, 2009 5:19 PM

And Jason Mraz is a guilty pleasure. I know his music is cheesy and stupid.......and I don't care. It's fun.

TK, I know what you're thinking. You can stick it straight up your ass.

Posted by: stardust savant at April 15, 2009 5:20 PM

You know, this bizarre Shyan Shenolds obsession actually made its way into a dream I had last night.

He now is part of a very exclusive club of celebs that have shown up in my dreams, the other two being Christopher Reeve and Michael J. Fox.

Ditto on the Joss Whedon. After "Buffy," the movie, he should have stopped.

And "30 Rock." Dr. Spaceman was funny. Everything else was not.

"Superbad" just made me sad and uncomfortable.

"Fight Club," "Momento," that damned Kaiser Sose movie, and all that other crap that tries too hard to be clever and twisty. They were BORING. I remember the Kaiser Sose reveal, and absolutely NOTHING about the other two. I'd rather watch my toenails grow for a few hours than sit through any of them ever again, because at least if I wasted several hours of my life, I don't have to pretend that watching my toenails grow somehow enriched me as a person.

Posted by: frumpiefox at April 15, 2009 5:20 PM

Pissboy: Word
Dustin: Double word.

Posted by: TylerDFC at April 15, 2009 5:20 PM

"Let me throw some suck at you: The Grateful Dead. Phish. Fleet Foxes."

Amen. I'm gonna toss some Neil Young and a hefty helping of Led Zep on that suck pile, if you don't mind...

Posted by: Skitz at April 15, 2009 5:21 PM

Seth Rogen -- not funny at all.

Judd Apatow -- watch one of his movies, and it's funny. But he says the same damn story over and over again. Sarah Marshall was vaguely entertaining, but it wasn't special.

High Fidelity -- I kept fighting the urge to go find John Cusack and spoon out his eyes with a rusty spork in vengeance.

Posted by: Donut Plains at April 15, 2009 5:21 PM

Battlestar Galactica is mediocre at best.

I can only pray that someday you will all understand that.

Posted by: Todd at April 15, 2009 5:21 PM

High-five, teacup! I really, really hate the smugness of Whedon.

Spender: you break my heart.

This IS fun, Dustin! Whee!

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 5:25 PM

White people with dreads should be punched in the face.

But the braided goatee is all win. Double if you have elastic bands in it.

Posted by: admin at April 15, 2009 5:26 PM

Hoookay, here goes...

Lost bores me. I have yet to watch Juno, and I'm okay with the continuing of that trend. The only time I enjoyed Kristen Bell was her exit from Deadwood. I'm so over Judd Apatow. Thank you for F&G, but reel back the output. Distance, fonder hearts, all that rot. Ironman was nowhere NEAR as enjoyable as TDK. RDJ isn't even that attractive.

I'm afraid I went too far with the last one, but there it is.

PS: On Whedon. The only thing that really gets me is his hate for father figures, his constant anti-gun harping, that smoking always equivocated villainous.

Posted by: Anne at April 15, 2009 5:26 PM

I didn't like 'A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius'.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 5:28 PM

Does anyone still like "Spiderman"? I hated that trash and its terrible rubber-band-man computer generated effects.

Speaking of computer generated crap, Pixar--eff you Pixar and all of your shitty computerized crap, yes even "Toy Story."

And "Finding Nemo," too.

Posted by: frumpiefox at April 15, 2009 5:36 PM

I hate that it bothers me that some of you hate things I love! I do, however, take great joy in knowing I will have to poop on your cars as revenge.

Posted by: Pinky McLadybits at April 15, 2009 5:36 PM

I hated "Wicked". And "Cryptonomicron".

Posted by: Stella at April 15, 2009 5:37 PM

I'm sorry, but people...I can't understand the LoTR hate and I never will. I loved the music, the cinematography, Gandalf was my hero and I want an elven sword. So there!

Furthermore, Heroes and Lost - over rated.

Posted by: Four Eyes at April 15, 2009 5:38 PM

Almost forgot. Outside of Arrested Development I usually want to punch Jason Bateman. Even in the show, there are a few times I'd really love to throw him against a hot Cornballer. In anything other than the show, he's the same goddamn character. That works for some people, IMO, but not him. Probably because his character is kind of an asshole, right?

Also, I'm surprised how many people don't like AD. There's no judgment on my end... I just legitimately find it hilarious and thought most intelligent people did.

Posted by: Noxbu at April 15, 2009 5:43 PM

I hate the hand wringing over every frigging stupid fad.

Yes, they are stupid, but if our society can't handle some LOLcats and Twattles, we were screwed to begin with.

Posted by: frumpiefox at April 15, 2009 5:43 PM

Skitz,
You seriously know adults who drink Old Milwaukee? Shit. I drank that shit when I was 18 cause it was cheap. I feel the same way about Bud and Coors drinkers. The "manly" douches who can't handle beer that has taste should have their balls showed up back where they belong, and they can spend the rest of their lives drinking pina coladas with my Grandma.

Posted by: grinder at April 15, 2009 5:44 PM

Holy frakking gods, I didn't like Battlestar Galactica one bit! The entire series played out before my eyes in the past couple of months (mr. meaux watched and greatly enjoyed it), and the stupid made-up swear words? The whole clobbering-over-the-head with religious themes? They drove me nuts!

Posted by: meaux at April 15, 2009 5:44 PM

Oh, and Wall-E was only slightly entertaining. I was not overly charmed by it at all.

Posted by: meaux at April 15, 2009 5:46 PM

"I didn't like 'A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius'."

Ditto. I owe you a stiff drink as well Figgy.

Any television show you've gotta watch the whole goddam series to have any idea what's going on gets the finger from me. I wanted to watch Lost - really, I did. But I happened to miss a few friggin' episodes here and there, and before I could say "whatthefuckisgoingon" I hadn't a clue.

That's some Prince Valiant, Mark Trail, Judge Parker shit right there. Seriously... Trail's been trying to save a goddam dog from a mama grizzly bear protecting her cubs for three years now. Shit, if I wanna know who the dog belongs to in the first place, I gotta go back to 1983 to get the lowdown. And Valiant's no better - it's like watching the Lord of the Rings trilogy without the benefit of moving pictures - that sonuvabitch has been riding somewhere for the past twenty goddam years.

Posted by: Skitz at April 15, 2009 5:46 PM

I don't get the extreme hate for Katherine Heigl. It's not like she's out there killing babies.

I don't get why anyone would watch Lost much less read a recap about it. The really crazy thing I don't get is why that show is still on. They're not even on the island anymore!

And one more thing- Stargate SG-1 was way more fun than Battlestar Gallatica.

Posted by: brenia at April 15, 2009 5:46 PM

Fuck Nick Cannon

Posted by: Dave at April 15, 2009 5:49 PM

I've never really cared for Futurama.

Posted by: Jack Asstro, Esquire at April 15, 2009 5:50 PM

Also, the Wheel of Time and LOTR.
... and Sword of Truth, after WFR - and now I'm too afraid to even reread that because I fear I'll hate it.

Posted by: Stella at April 15, 2009 5:53 PM

Oof, I really never got into Futurama, either. Never got all the love for it.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 5:53 PM

I love LOLCats. I think it's cute and stupid and it makes me laugh at times.

And no, I'm not a mouth breather. Fuck you.

Posted by: Wormer at April 15, 2009 5:58 PM

Whedon: just no.

I dislike people who dislike things because they know it's their own flawed understanding or perception of things that prevents them from understanding it, but blame the thing instead of themselves because it's easier than changing.

If you don't understand that sentence you're in this category.

Posted by: Recondite at April 15, 2009 5:59 PM

I agree with admin's first comment. Say Anything was boring. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was a great film (Jim Carrey in the best role I've ever seen him), but I've never understood other commenters' infatuation for Kate Winslet. She seems like an awesome, down-to-earth person in interviews, and she's not a bad actress, but I don't understand her appeal (her looks and movies). Unless I've forgotten something, everything else here on the site is pretty agreeable to me.

Posted by: KP at April 15, 2009 5:59 PM

Another non-Heigl hater here. And I'm afraid I absolutely despise Shawshank Redemption and everything it stands for; I'd rather be stuck in a lift with Perez Hilton for two hours than have to watch that sack of crap again.

Posted by: Caspar at April 15, 2009 6:02 PM

Figgy, I just threw the Statham out there for funsies. Hell, after a few Old Milwaukees I'd probably hit that real hard. And as far as music goes, PissBoy, I meant no real offense to you. I love DM, Jane's Addiction and Busta Rhymes (though I've just never cared much about Death Cab for Cutie) but they get plenty of coverage in the mainstream music press while Pajiba's music writers let us know about some pretty good music that we might otherwise never hear about. I appreciate what TK, Felicia and Caspar bring to the table. I do, however, agree with Dustin that the Grateful Dead are a steamy pile. I grew up in the 60's-70's and never once understood their appeal.

Posted by: Spender at April 15, 2009 6:03 PM

I like Twilight. The movie, not the book.

Pajiba: Scathing Reviews for H8ters.

booya!!!!

Posted by: boo at April 15, 2009 6:05 PM

PS: On Whedon. The only thing that really gets me is his hate for father figures,

Anne I'm curious what you mean by that. Giles is one of the best fathers ever on television ever. Sure he left at a stupid time, but that was the actor's choice. You can hate on Buffy, you can hate on Whedon, that's fine, I just don't understand this comment.

Posted by: coveredinbees at April 15, 2009 6:05 PM

And one more thing- Stargate SG-1 was way more fun than Battlestar Galactica.

Posted by: brenia at April 15, 2009 5:46 PM
------------------------------------------------------
Brenia,
My wife would kill you and keep you from your resurrection ship but I am in complete agreement.

Posted by: Spender at April 15, 2009 6:07 PM

i do not think that Joel Mchale is funny. He is kind of tired and sad.

Posted by: badalamenti at April 15, 2009 6:07 PM

Battlestar Galactica can choke on my chode.

Josh Whedon is OVER-RAAAATED, Clap Clap ... Clap Clap Clap, OVER-RAAATED...

Posted by: Beyonce Rowles (L.O.V.E.) at April 15, 2009 6:08 PM

Giles is one of the best fathers ever on television ever.

Shepherd Book as well.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at April 15, 2009 6:10 PM

I hate all of the stupid names Joss Whedon gives his characters. The nickname for Joseph is Joe, not Joss, you douchenozzle.

Posted by: frumpiefox at April 15, 2009 6:16 PM

And I'll even add stupid Echo's awesome handler on stupid Dollhouse, even though I don't know his name. He's a Whedon archetype, and the show may only last 12 episodes, but I kind of heart him.

Posted by: coveredinbees at April 15, 2009 6:17 PM

Yo, Figgy. We need to hang out.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at April 15, 2009 6:19 PM

robert deniro is over-rated.

Posted by: jimmy at April 15, 2009 6:22 PM

Ooh! Ooh! I got one that I bet half of you will agree with, and the other half will spit out whatever they may be eating or drinking in horror:

I love Shakespeare in Love.

Posted by: Neon at April 15, 2009 6:23 PM

and David Foster Wallace needed to tighten up his stories.

Posted by: jimmy at April 15, 2009 6:26 PM

about every time i get lured into a music related post, my soul is crushed by awful sounds. i'd say it's a 98% chance i will not understand the appeal.
i also don't understand the seth rogen love... until a few weeks ago i thought he was faking his voice. i do like the movies he's in, but not cause he's in them.
lost, wtf? i have never cared. the insistance of friends and family that i should watch it just makes me care less. same for 30 rock, friends try to make me watch it and i guess it's alright but not good enough for me to take the initiative to watch every week. even my unbridled love and admiration for tina fey can't get me interested.
@brenia, i'd have to say your battlestar galactica opinion is misinformed since you've only seen the beginning of the series. just cause stargate has brighter colors doesn't make it more fun :p
and as a white girl with hair so curly i fight a constant war with its habit of tangling in clumps, i too hate white people dreads. the fact that i have to try so hard to keep from having them just intensifies my dislike.

Posted by: yeratomato at April 15, 2009 6:27 PM

I like Twilight. The movie, not the book.
Pajiba: Scathing Reviews for H8ters. booya!!!! Posted by: boo

I like, nay, LOVE the Twilight movie. I rented it, watched, returned it, then turned around and bought it.

SUCK ON IT, PAJIBA!
Boo, we should watch a marathon of all the movies when they're all released. Awesome.

Posted by: popejenn at April 15, 2009 6:29 PM

Yes, yes we do.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 6:29 PM

I'll chime in with the Grateful Dead and Phish hate. And I've pontificated at length before about not getting music and music reviews in general, but I'm willing to be self-deprecating about it and admit that I'm currently listening to a ten year old Gin Blossoms CD as I flip through the anticipated albums articles and verify that I've only even heard songs by three or four of the bands on the list.

Also, I loathed American Beauty and Life is Beautiful. I thought Kill Bill was intensely boring and I firmly believe that every musical except for the Buffy musical sucks ass. I sincerely hoped that every single character in the stage productions of Rent and Les Miserables would die horrible agonizing deaths inflicted by sporks.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at April 15, 2009 6:32 PM

Here's one that has the potential to get me kicked in the sack:

I hate frisbee golf even more than regular golf. It's a frisbee. It's meant to be thrown between two or more people, and in some cases, caught by a happy pooch. There is no reason it should be thrown and walked after. None whatsoever.

I heard somebody once refer to it as "frolf". That person was a moron...

Posted by: Skitz at April 15, 2009 6:33 PM

Neon, I love Shakespeare in Love, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

I loved Dogma, but I don't really like any of the other movies Kevin Smith has done. My love for him comes almost exclusively from his public persona, I think he's hilarious and smart, and after watching his talks in colleges...well, I just love the guy.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 6:33 PM

Skitz, I'm SO glad that there is another person out there who hates frisbee golf. I hate, hate, HATE that pointless game!!!

Posted by: brenia at April 15, 2009 6:44 PM

I couldn't think of anything at first, but reading the comments - 30 Rock. I still haven't watched anything past the first season. I just don't find it all that funny.

Posted by: dsbs at April 15, 2009 6:45 PM

Oh, forgot to say:

Geetch, what the hell? You make "Canadian" sound like a bad thing. We are above average, thank you very much!

Posted by: meaux at April 15, 2009 6:46 PM

nicolas cage doesn't really bother me.
i don't watch a movie JUST because he's in it, but having him as the lead isn't really a deal-breaker either.

Posted by: gp at April 15, 2009 6:47 PM

enough with the frisbee golf hate.

it is meant to be enjoyed as the games of our inbred aristocratic descendants were enjoyed- drunk and filled with a casual disdain of humanity.

it should have clubs though. i mean the bludgeoning kind.

Posted by: jimmy at April 15, 2009 6:49 PM

Dancer in the Dark is possibly the worst movie ever made.
Phish is awful and even Phish's individual parts suck when they play by themselves.
I never watched Veronica Mars and don't get the Kristen Bell love. At all.
The Office blows.

And I miss the Greys Anatomy recaps. They were funny and hate-filled and brightened my day.

Posted by: king at April 15, 2009 6:53 PM

Aaaww, Steve, that makes me sad. As punishment, you will sit there while I perform all of the songs from 'Chicago' for your listening pleasure.

Don't worry, all the broken glass will be paid for by me. It's gonna be SO much fun.

I loved The English Patient. Come on, it has Naveen Andrews shirtless and wet. Thank you very much.

And to ease up on some of the hate:
-I love that Stacey posts so many videos of dogs doing funny things.
-I love that Dustin 'pretends' (or not!) to love Ryan Reynolds for our enjoyment. And posts photos of abs.
-I love that Dan loves Star Wars.
-I love that Ted loves booze.
-I love that Prisco loves ham.

And many other things, of course.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 6:53 PM

I don't get the allure of Neal Patrick Harris. Just don't.

British comedy bores the shit out of me. Black Adder, Fawlty Towers, and this'll twist your knickers - Monty Python's Holy Grail. S-N-O-R-E

And as far as House goes? I've seen probably ten episodes. I don't need to see any more. They're essentially the same. They're good, don't get me wrong, but the friggin' story's the same all the goddam time. Sick person. Diagnosis is made. Person gets worse. House calls everybody an idiot. House pops some painkillers. There's some sexual tension. House pops some more medication. House calls the patient a moron. There's some doodling on a dry-erase board. Crazy ass solution is reached. House rides his motorcycle home to either an empty apartment or has a hooker make a house call. Done.

Posted by: Skitz at April 15, 2009 6:54 PM

I didn't like Iron Man. So overrated, such a childhood-boy-fantasy-big-guns-big-explosions-big-suck crapfest if ever I saw one. And so, soooo not better than The Dark Knight.

And I know that opinion is not exactly common here in Pajiland.

Posted by: JJ McClay at April 15, 2009 6:54 PM

Dustin, are you serious about Fleet Foxes? Man alive. That makes me sad. And oh shit, I've got to say a few words to Pissboy. Numero uno: I've missed you! But also: I can't answer for the other music writers, but in my case I genuinely didn't know those other bands you mention had albums coming out, apart from Eminem, as they're bands I don't like and therefore I don't follow what they're doing. It's not out of an elitist desire to appear left-field, honestly.

Posted by: Caspar at April 15, 2009 6:58 PM

No offense taken Spender. None at all.

Posted by: PissBoy at April 15, 2009 6:58 PM

I think the Beatles are overrated.

I hate the Lord of the Rings films. I think they are bloody boring.

I think Firefly was/is overrated, and Serenity was/is.....okay-ish.

Also, I think all you Browncoats (or whatever) should be glad it ended so soon. At least that way you didn't have to watch your beloved characters get tortured and killed off....very...very ...slowly...over 5 or 7 seasons.

This is why I love and hate Joss Whedon, he creates great (lovable) characters, and then proceeds to assassinate them. Did I mention he does this slowly so you don't realise what's happening until it is too late? Well, that's what he does.

I like Kevin Smith, his films are okay.

I don't like Eliza Dushku, that's why I am not going to watch Dollhouse.

I like Ryan Reynolds. Shirtless.

I do not like Terrence Howard. The man cannot act. Furthermore, he looks like he is going to burst into tears in every single scene, of every single film I have had the unfortunate pleasure of seeing him in.

I like the Big Bang Theory. I especially like Sheldon.

That is all I could think of for now. Btw, this is my first time posting. So there,I'm not scared of you "regulars".

Posted by: M at April 15, 2009 6:58 PM

*Snarl! Hiss!* Back into hiding with you, M! How dare you feel comfortable enough to comment in these parts!

(heehee)

Posted by: meaux at April 15, 2009 7:02 PM

Ooooh, they really need to do the Grey's reviews again, they were fantastic. And the show has sunk so far that, boy, they would be epic. But I don't want any of the staffers to go through it. Hmm. Maybe TK. I bet he'd LOVE that.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 7:02 PM

Ooh, thought of two, no wait, three others in addition to sci-fi in general: Superbad. I love so many of the people involved, including Apatow who has gotten a lot of shit sent his way today, but I was seriously disappointed with this one. Superbad leads to my second one, Jonah Hill. He just drives me batshit crazy in almost every role he plays. I have only found him remotely funny twice: once in his bit part in 40 year old virgin in which he is trying to buy the sparkly goldfish platform boots, the other is the very first scene of his in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. My final piece of dislike that will probably get me disowned from Pajiba is that I couldn't even make it through Tropic Thunder. I thought it was obnoxious and too much like the movies it was trying to skewer (I find big budget action movies unbearable. I'm not interested in violence and explosions for entertainment.)

Posted by: ami at April 15, 2009 7:06 PM

"I'm not interested in violence and explosions for entertainment."

[...crosses ami from Wendel's July Fourth Explodagasma guest list...]

Posted by: Skitz at April 15, 2009 7:15 PM

meux, thank you for the warm welcome.

Also, I meant to write unfortunate displeasure with regards to Mr. Howard.

Posted by: M at April 15, 2009 7:15 PM

Ummm ... I have a confession to make ... the Mrs. makes me Grey's Anatomy, and I have to confess it's not that bad. It's cheesy and stupid and the medicine is eye-rollingly bad most of the time (come on everything I know about medicine I've learned from TV, so if I know you're full of shit, you're really not doing your due diligence), but it's entertaining enough to watch when you've watched the good stuff on the Tivo. More to the point I guess, it's bad enough to be fun to snark at, but just good enough that it's not painful to watch.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at April 15, 2009 7:15 PM

I hate any of you fucking hipsters out there.

http://lookatthisfuckinghipster.tumblr.com/

Posted by: Beyonce Rowles (L.O.V.E.) at April 15, 2009 7:24 PM

I like shows like Futurama and South Park so theoretically I should be part of the "Family Guy" demographic but I really hate that show, the humor just feels so leaden and self-conscious and forced ALL THE TIME. Joke after joke is like "hey look, this is funny because it violates some widely-held taboo and is therefore 'inappropriate', aren't we naughty?" or "hey look, we're doing a reference to some TV show/movie/commercial you probably haven't thought about in a while, we didn't really do anything creative with it but it's funny because you recognize it!" or "hey look, some character is talking about something irrelevant to the scene and it's funny because we're drawing it out way too long!" I don't know, it's hard to put my finger on what annoys me about FG, it's like good comedy needs a certain feeling of spontaneity or playfulness, whereas with this show I just have the constant feeling of "they're trying way too hard".

That said, uh, I often end up watching it anyway because it's on around the time I get take-out dinner and it's more entertaining than the local news. So I have to admit that I do think Stewie is pretty funny sometimes, though only when he's being a regular character and not an "evil genius baby" gimmick.

Posted by: Jesse M. at April 15, 2009 7:24 PM

I'm going to have to agree with ami on Tropic Thunder. Save for RDJ and the best thing that Tom has done since ever, it would have just been another Ben Stiller movie.

Yes Steven, it is that bad. You may want to check your happy place to see if anything is missing.

Posted by: admin at April 15, 2009 7:26 PM

I know I'm not exactly one of the Eloquents around here, but it's amazing how the chance to hate on the stuff the Pajiba-ers love brings out the lurkers.

That said, while I will be eternally grateful to Joss Whedon for season 1-4 of 'Buffy', I didn't really care for 'Firefly' that much. I like Fillion, LOVE Tudyk, but aside from that, it was, at best, like a B- series. And yeah, Whedon's daddy issues annoy the shit out of me as well. And then there's 'Dollhouse'...

Posted by: Mimi at April 15, 2009 7:33 PM

Oh, and while, again, I have a soft spot for Alyson Hannigan (she seems so sweet), I definitely think that she is the wekaest part of 'How I Met Your Mother.' If she wasn't attached to Jason Segel she would be kind of useless.

Posted by: Mimi at April 15, 2009 7:34 PM

Heigl was right about "Knocked Up" - it was sexist. And also not very good. Apatow's dialogue skills are weak.

Wes Anderson is a mediocre filmmaker. No, scratch that, "Darjeeling Limited" was a pretentious piece of crap seemingly written by a precocious 13 year old. It's luggage, you see. Like, baggage? That must be discarded! The Abbey Road thing - I get enraged just thinking about it.

Posted by: Abby at April 15, 2009 7:35 PM

PissBoy, I'm waiting for Depeche Mode and in fact mentioned it in that very column. Nobody else seemed interested. I've been listening to Music For The Masses these days to whet my appetite.

I'm not sure if it's Joss Whedon I can't stand, or just the actors he hires - though I did like James Marsters. Either way, his shows don't do much for my world.

And finally, I can't stand most of the comedies (television or movie) of today. So I'd say 90 percent of the comedies that get reviewed here, I just skip over. I don't know if it's my sense of humor that's bad, or that of most of America. I'm going with my own gut though.

Posted by: Cindy at April 15, 2009 7:43 PM

And I'm not saying there's an elitism thing. It's almost a general refusal to note the popular with some reviewers. Others...notsomuch. I don't care if you know it...I love everything boo writes, so it's not her. I print it out, blow it up into life-sized posters so I can hug it, print out 4 pages per sheet of paper and make tiny napkins of booisms. I even sent one of the articles to cafepress and had them make it into a comforter for me so I could be wrapped in boo-warmth. But she already knows that. I am, afterall, going to bear her children...I'll likely get knocked up sometime around the Roots Picnic when I sleep with her Mr. boo under my boo-blankets.

Posted by: PissBoy at April 15, 2009 7:44 PM

YOU TAKE THAT BACK ABOUT WALL-E, MEAUX!

Tropic Thunder was meh, even RDJ. I hate Taye Diggs and that douchetool that's playing Spock. I like a lot of Tom Cruise's movies. Eliza Dushku sucks and her name is annoying to type. I've seen all the Spiderman movies and I don't give a shit about them. I liked Lost In Translation. Jamie Foxx can kiss my ass. I hate the grammar nazis. I love disaster movies. Oh, and...

PANDAS SUCK!

Posted by: jM at April 15, 2009 7:45 PM

correction...her AND* Mr. boo

Posted by: PissBoy at April 15, 2009 7:45 PM

Abby: I don't know if I could really disagree with a person more. Except that, yes, Heigl was weak in Knocked Up. But The Darjeeling Limited was one of my favorite films ever. People throw around that word "pretentious" to try and be cool and make up for the fact that they simply didn't understand or enjoy a film. But in fact some of the best films of all time are pretentious in that they involve a certain amount of context or re-watching to really gather the full message.

Anyway, on to the topic at hand. I actually don't like Glenn Close. And I find even a young Meryl Streep to be horribly unattractive (though very talented). I actually hate the guy who plays Simon on Firefly, as well as Sarah Michelle Gellar.

And I feel bad for saying this, but I'm starting to think that Leonardo Dicaprio has no range to speak of. Even when he's playing a very unique character, he plays that character exactly like every other character he's ever played. Which isn't to say he isn't a good actor, just that he's not a particularly good character actor.

And you know what? I like Keanu Reeves. Yeah. I said it.

Posted by: ChristianH at April 15, 2009 7:54 PM

Kevin Smith, Seth Rogen, Michael Moore.

Big ole chubby dudes keeping the hot chick dream alive for millions of chubby screenwriters scratching their haunches in the dank basements of Ameritude.

May you someday be reduced to an ever expanding sportcoat, hosting a gameshow being mauled daily with the prizewinning affections of a theousand Mimi Bobeks.

May Jay and Silent Bob choke on each other's child sized fucknuggets.

Posted by: Stacy D at April 15, 2009 7:54 PM

Eh, I can't hate on a lot of stuff, because if it doesn't grab me, I just don't watch it. I'll get an eensy bit apoplectic with the Stargate hate, because my ex-husband used to watch that horseshit endlesslesslesslessly (hell, yeah, that's a word), and in terms of plot and characters, let's just say I think the creators of Archie and Jughead obviously did a little moonlighting in their later years. Terrible, terrible crap, brought nothing new to the table.

I don't watch Lost, Amazing Race, American Idol, or How I Met Your Mother. I've never seen a Jason Statham movie. I'm too old to wax nostalgic about Ninja Turtles or Rainbow Brite, and Scooby Doo fucking sucked to anybody who wasn't stoned out of his gourd. My childhood can't be raped because I was a child in the seventies and there wasn't anything in that entire TV decade that wouldn't spread its legs willingly for any and all comers.

Posted by: Wednesday at April 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Having said that, I kind of like Horatio Sanz.

Posted by: Stacy D at April 15, 2009 7:58 PM

figgy: I was wrong about Abby. I have never disagreed with anyone the way I disagree with you. You shock and appall me.

PissBoy: There are a few reasons those albums weren't on the anticipated albums list. For one, I'm not sure some of those are true (Death Cab, for instance), though if all of them are, it's entirely possible we just didn't hear about them. Secondly, those lists were entirely subjective to the individual writers. I, for example, am far more excited about a new Flaming Lips or Grizzly Bear album than anything by Green Day or Eminem. For the record, any anticipation I could have had for the new Eminem album was shattered when I heard his new single. It's awful. Finally, I don't think any of the writers here on this site is specifically not reviewing mainstream artists, as that would be idiotic and exclusionary. Rather, I think the writers are making a concerted effort to INclude artists you may never have heard of before, giving a broader scope of the industry and diversifying tastes. We do three album reviews a week. Every blog in the universe is reviewing the major releases. We're just giving some different flavors you might like if you gave them a shot. I think your attitude is far more pretentious, that anyone without any mainstream success does not deserve coverage on this site.

Yes, I just called you out.

Posted by: ChristianH at April 15, 2009 8:03 PM

I hate that most of the people here don't actually know anything about films or even the business. I've kind of grown up with this website in a weird way, and although the celebrity gossip and stuff is funny, the shift away from a focus on film is really sad. I wonder if maybe we didn't discuss all of the tabloid bullshit that perhaps movies wouldn't be based on who pulled some publicity stunt. I know I'm just an idealist, but I remember Pajiba didn't used to be like this.
Now it just seems like the site is filled with weird thirty year olds who don't know each other but act like they do or something. What is the use of creating a community that is ultimately based on a false sense of familiarity and spewing nonsense?

Posted by: OT at April 15, 2009 8:10 PM

I'm watching Three Kings right now and I kind of heart Spike Jonze more than ever. I had no idear he acted in this. Just thought I would add some unasked for love to this hate thread.

Posted by: coveredinbees at April 15, 2009 8:16 PM

I secretly love Chick Flicks. Love love love love love them. Confessions Of A Shopaholic was actually a good movie, and I loved every minute of it. So my Pajiba hate would be for the Chick-Flick haters. Suck it!

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at April 15, 2009 8:24 PM

God, some of the hate on this thread actually hurts my heart. Arrested Development? Seth Rogen? Kevin Smith? Wes Anderson? John Cusack? Fleet Foxes? And someone actually took the intitiative to call out The Decemberists???

Fine, here's my retaliatory measure: I think Caddyshack is stupid, and highly overrated. Same for Seinfeld. And 30 Rock.

Take it. Take it hard.

Posted by: ChristianH at April 15, 2009 8:31 PM

Wow! I don't think I've ever shocked and appalled anyone. Hee. Hey, at least I like Wes Anderson? And I don't like Leo that much?

But...you like Keanu? You and I are DONE professionally, sir!

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 8:40 PM

Professionally...but not romantically, I trust?

Posted by: ChristianH at April 15, 2009 8:42 PM

Well, there's a lot of things Pajibans love that I can't stand...

1. Nathan Fillion. Great body, great ass, but the face is all wrong. He just looks dumb. Like he's mentally slow and can't string words together.

2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Love Kate Winslet, but this movie bores me to tears.

3. LOST. Fuck me, I hate this show, and all the fucking hype that comes with it. The hatch, the numbers, the island, the monsters, the secrets, the experiments...seriously, who gives a shit? People act like you're too stupid to get it if you don't like it. Get the fuck out of my face with that. It's a show. It's a fucking show. Eventually, it will end, and the shit is not real. Locke and Jack and Hurley and Kate aren't real, people! It's too much damn work to keep up. I don't want to have to take a fucking class to watch a fucking show!

3. Arrested Development, BSG & Firefly. Truthfully, I have nothing against these shows, I just didn't care enough about them to watch. They were on, they were over. Boo-hoo.

4. Ryan Reynolds. He's sexy, but not some brilliant actor. He plays the same damn character in everything, but he gets a pass here because he has great abs. Whatever.

5. 30 Rock & The Office. Oh, God make it stop. This is why I didn't even bother watching Parks & Recreation. I like Tiny Fey & Steve Carell, but this smug bullshit on TV is getting on my nerves, and now they're adding more. Ugh.

6. Borat & Children of Men blew donkey balls. Borat just isn't funny, and Children of Men was no different than any war movie I've seen. Next.

Posted by: Brie at April 15, 2009 8:44 PM

There's nothing smug about 30 Rock or The Office. I don't know where you're getting that from. The fans are smug, sure, but you can't blame the shows.

This isn't really a popular topic, but I hate that y'all seem to love the Borne sequels. I watched the first 45 minutes of Borne 2 and couldn't keep watching, and then y'all say that the third is like the second one but better, which to me sounds like a pile of shit, but with more shit. The first one was a brilliant movie, the second one was a piece of shit action flick.

Posted by: Lucas at April 15, 2009 8:48 PM

What is the use of creating a community that is ultimately based on a false sense of familiarity and spewing nonsense?

OT: That sounds like every real-life friendship I've ever had.

Also, I totally dig that there's animosity toward some of the site's standard bearers. The next time some troll comes out of the woodwork and suggest we're all a bunch of sheep, I will point them to this thread.

And sorry, ChristianH. I've taken quite a few music recs from you guys, but Fleet Foxes is the only one I generally disliked.

And thanks, Steven. I'm going to go dig up my Gin Blossoms album now.

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at April 15, 2009 8:51 PM

Now it just seems like the site is filled with weird thirty year olds who don't know each other but act like they do or something. What is the use of creating a community that is ultimately based on a false sense of familiarity and spewing nonsense?

Posted by: OT at April 15, 2009 8:10 PM
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Damn.
I belong to a community built around an online radio station and, like many of the 'jibans, we actually get together on (at least) an annual basis... and have the same sense of family that is found among the good folks here. "A false sense of familiarity"? Jebus, when Alabama Pink passed the sense of loss felt by all was as strong as if a family member had been taken too soon because, in a very real way, it was exactly the same feeling.
As for weird... well, yeah? So fuckin' what? Weird is cool and these are the coolest people ever.

Posted by: Spender at April 15, 2009 8:52 PM

I hate that most of the people here don't actually know anything about films or even the business.

I hate it when people make statments like that. What degree or practical experience do I need to be able to state my opinion on whether a movie is shit or not?

As for weird thirty-somethings, you're fucking A right.

Posted by: admin at April 15, 2009 8:54 PM

Hey, I'm not thirty something. Don't call me OLD.

*runs the hell away*

And ChristianH, alas, I'm taken both outside and inside of Pajiba. What can I say, I'm hot stuff.

I love this thread. Like Dustin said, it proves we're not sheep, but we're a tight, diverse community.

So baaaaaaah the fuck off.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 9:23 PM

PS: On Whedon. The only thing that really gets me is his hate for father figures, his constant anti-gun harping, that smoking always equivocated villainous.

I couldn't agree more, especially the gun part. Seriously, people of Pajiba, guns are a valuable right, and a far more important element to our checks and balances than almost any of you give credit for.

I've already admited to not hating LotR and the Star Wars prequels, so I'm going to delve into some far more controversial stuff. You just had to open pandora's box, Dustin.

I didn't like Garden State, it didn't do anything I wanted it to.

I fucking hate 2001: A Space Odyssey. It's the most overrated film of all time.

You guys don't hate Fall Out Boy nearly enough. Why is that?

Sometimes, Adam Sandler makes me laugh. But I'm ashamed to admit it.

I also don't hate Titanic or Forrest Gump. Let's face it, there was one nomination up in each of the years that deserved best picture more than they did. Fuck, the only intolerable part about Titanic was Celine Dion. And if it hadn't won, the Academy would have to live with giving Ben Affleck the Oscar.

As for Forest Gump, Quiz Show and Pulp Fiction were fine films, Fiction's one of the best ever, but they did not deserve the Oscar more than Gump! The only film that did was The Shawshank Redemption, so fuck you! There, I said it. Begin the throwing, now.

Posted by: George at April 15, 2009 9:25 PM

If I see a guy who looks exactly like me - same hair, same eyes, same weight, etc - only with a mustache and goatee, I'm going to walk right up to my evil doppelganger and say, "Hi Skitz. How goes?" Then I'm going to cock punch him for disliking baseball (a pro sport). Past that, I agree with everything my evil self dislikes.

I hate Star Trek. I think its iterations - with a few episodes of Next Generation excepted - are mindless, stupid, sci-fi fluff made to coddle the socially retarded, emotionally stunted sci-fi fans. When I see someone dressed up as their favorite character, I have a hard time stifling a laugh. Fuck Star Trek - I hope L. Ron Hubbard is skull-fucking Gene Roddenberry in Hell.

I never had any desire to watch Lost or 24. I saw the first season of Heroes on DVD and it confirmed everything I thought about it back when I originally saw the premiere and decided not to follow it. I've seen the storylines done better in better comic books.

I'll keep my thoughts regarding World Of Warcraft to myself. Who needs two socially inept mobs gunning for me?

Posted by: David at April 15, 2009 9:35 PM

I HATE Forest Gump. Fucking baby boomer nostalgia. We should have had another Vietnam to thin out their ranks more in the seventies.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at April 15, 2009 9:37 PM

Some real hatred out here. So let me add mine:

- I have never seen Lost, but I'm sure it'll somehow be explained by a meteor/time vortex/a dream sequence/a drug-induced dream sequence/aliens or angels testing humanity's souls.

- Never cared for The Office. I think Steve Carrell's funniest stint was with The Daily Show years ago -- OK, that and Anchorman.

- I LOATHE Zach Braff and his movies and Wes Anderson and his movies. Oh and American Beauty, Ordinary People, Revolutionary Road and any other White Well-To-Do Families Struggle With Their Perfect Lives movies.

- Tell Michael Gondry to start writing a script before he starts shooting.

- What the fuck was Donnie Darko all about?

- Tell whoever puts the music column to stop listening to all that indie self-centered junk and put some Iron Maiden and AC/DC on!

Posted by: Fredo at April 15, 2009 9:53 PM

Posted by: OT at April 15, 2009 8:10 PM

Seriously?
Like, are you *actually* serious with this comment?

...

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at April 15, 2009 9:56 PM

I'm a little surprised by all the Kristen Bell hate. I like to think of her as my vegetarian-snarky-blonde soulmate. We'd totally be BFF. And this is not just because I loved Veronica Mars. Which was awesome by the way, disregarding season three.

That being said, I hate 30 Rock. The Office is okay most days, even really funny every now and then, but 30 Rock just plain sucks.

And I second the "meh" on TDK. I'm not a super hero action film kind of girl, but it wasn't that bad. But the greatest of all time? Hardly. Ledger's Oscar was just overdue from Brokeback.

Posted by: Austin asking for trouble at April 15, 2009 9:56 PM

Stripe, how is hating Forrest Gump attacking something that Pajibans hold dear? So far, I'm the only one on this site that doesn't hate it.

Posted by: George at April 15, 2009 9:57 PM

this is, by the way, the whiniest, bitchiest thread I've ever seen here.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at April 15, 2009 9:57 PM

AVB: That's to be expected, what with the topic and all.

Here's some anti-hate: I hate that y'all hate Dollhouse. The last episode was really good, and there were a few before that were also good, while none of the other episodes were bad. Just because it doesn't live up to the hype doesn't make it low quality. Hell, the entire first season of Buffy was worse than anything that's been on Dollhouse so far, and y'all give it a free pass because you were younger and had less refined taste back when it was on.

This is a criticism site, so it's fair game to take shots at a show you don't like. Keep doing it, it's fine, I just figured I'd say how I feel.

Posted by: Lucas at April 15, 2009 10:06 PM

I do not wish I were an Oscar Meyer wiener. That is not what I'd really like to be. Because if I were an Oscar Meyer wiener, I'd be dead, motherfucker.

Posted by: branded at April 15, 2009 10:09 PM

There's nothing smug about 30 Rock or The Office. I don't know where you're getting that from. The fans are smug, sure, but you can't blame the shows.

I know the fans don't help, but whenever I watch either, "smug" is the first word that pops up. Particularly with The Office. I haven't seen the British version, but I can imagine that the dry wit comes across better than it does in the American version. There are a few decent characters on the show, but not enough to watch every week. Half the time, I forget it's even on.

Posted by: Brie at April 15, 2009 10:11 PM

yeah, I hear that, Lucas.

But it's bringin' me *down*, man.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at April 15, 2009 10:20 PM

Nathan Fillion and Jason Bateman are more than one person?

Posted by: Not Goldie at April 15, 2009 10:22 PM

Extra was crap. Some of the celebrity cameos were really funny (Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, Ronnie Corbett) but on the whole? Mustard thoroughly uncut.

Which leads to Kate Winslet. Can someone just tell her to...(I'm trying to think of a less hateful way of saying 'shut the fucking fuck up, put on some clothes, and if you start Oscar-jockeying and bitching about you weight again I will slap the ass off of your face) stop? Easily the least funny Extras appearance too. Incongruity between public perception and actual behaviour! Oooh, and a wacky costume!

Cameron Crowe films make me want to defenestrate myself. Dobler needs to kickbox himself off a cliff.

High Fidelity was good book. The end.

The Wizard of Oz. No severed limbs? We're done.

Casa-Blank Stare. I've attempted this movie six times, and have fallen asleep every time. And I have a diagnosed sleep disorder. Hmm, maybe I should buy it and lay off the warm milk.

Saw a few episodes of Veronica Mars. I didn't make it to three.

Alyson Hannigan. Same delivery of every line: 'I'm so cute, aren't I chipper little stinker? I'm on a SIT-COM'. Fire her.

Art Linklatter. Waking Life: Praying for Death.

Fight Club. DO drop the soap, you'll get exactly what you deserve.

Larry Sanders Show. Just put Gary's scalpel out to pasture. It's seen enough action.

Maggie Gyllenhaal, you don't have to jowls to get away with your BEYOND-abhorrent character in Stranger Than Pirandello (who had the guts to follow his story to its natural conclusion).

I think Violet Affleck is the ugliest fucking baby to have ever been spawned. Come at me bitches.

I'd like to know what the snake oil to cocaine ratio is at Bob Dylan's apothecary.

Blade Runner. There's rape scene that's a hundred times more radical than anything in Observe and Report. Also See: Boring as Fuck.

The Arcade Fire: SHHHHHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!

'Would you say that to Zooey Deschanels'? What? That the musical industry is already too overloaded with almost pathologically tuneless indie spittle, and her songs aren't helping? Yes. Yes I would. Why aren't any of the indie bands allowed to sing well? By that token, Death Club for Whiny.

Seinfeld: A show about tedium. Although Elaine's dancing was pretty boss.

I think Bryan Cranston is great. He's such a talented person, and seems like a sweetheart, too. Breaking bad? If I wanted to see a desperate authority figure peddling drugs to burnouts, I'd turn my head.

I always go into something wanting to enjoy it, so I'm saying this just to be contrary. I'll never understand the fascination surrounding The Man Who is Also a Bat. Fell asleep in Batman Begins, only made it through TDK because I knew I'd be getting some action afterwards. *sigh*, I miss that.

Sarah Silverman, you are on my shit list.

She's written some stuff that I enjoy, but anything who thinks Margaret Atwood is funny is off of his meds.

Jimmy Carr is repulsive, as is what's-his-face with the rat nest on his head.

Star Wars.

FUCKING HOCKEY. ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! And I'm from Canada. High-stickin', low scorin', and miasma? you BET it exists. *puke-a-duke*

This could go on for days. I have to get back to work.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at April 15, 2009 10:28 PM

I DON'T want to be contrary vis-a-vis TDK. Urgh, I'm dumb.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at April 15, 2009 10:34 PM

I completely agree with hating on Leo Dicaprio in every role except Arnie Grape in What's Eating Gilbert Grape. I hate that movie by the way, but I thought Leo was actually incredibly good at playing... I'm not sure what euphemism is embraced right now...developmentally delayed(?). Maybe if he just sticks to that...

Posted by: king at April 15, 2009 10:41 PM

He played what he knew, king.

Posted by: popejenn at April 15, 2009 10:55 PM

I think it's kind of therapeutic. We all need to get stuff off our chests. I mean, some of the comments could piss me off, but why let them? I like knowing that opinions aren't universal on Pajiba, and besides, I'm gonna kill everyone who doesn't agree with me, eventually.

But really, I'm not gonna let it bug me. I honestly think it's done in good fun, and no one (except the trolls) is gonna be offended by opinions expressed here or anything.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 10:56 PM

Thanks for that summation, AvB, saved me from reading 200 whiny, bitchy comments.

And speaking of going straight to the bottom, IMHO the quality of the comments has diminished considerably since the abolition of the EE. We're not nearly as funny as we used to be, not as interesting either (and by "We're" I mean everybody but me).

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at April 15, 2009 10:58 PM

I disagree.

But, you know, different strokes.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 11:01 PM

Drew Barrymore and all of country music. I'd include more but none of the rest cross over to "hate" for me.

Posted by: branded at April 15, 2009 11:01 PM

I'm so glad this topic was chosen, because I have a grievance to air here.

I hated Firefly. Hated it. I gave it a chance, hell, I gave it too many chances! I watched more than four episodes only to realize that this show was boring, hokey, childish, cheaply sentimental and poorly acted. Above all, it was guilty of the worst possible sin: taking itself WAY to seriously. Christ on a cracker, when your characters are riding spaceships around some Wild-West version of the galaxy, you need to lighten up!

Ahhhh. I feel better now.

Posted by: Friday at April 15, 2009 11:05 PM

Soooooo late to the party, but I really can't stand Robert Downey, Jr. and James Spader. Michael Pitt and his big pouty lips can eat a bowl of dicks, too.

Posted by: Mattfactor at April 15, 2009 11:07 PM

Ha! Exactly! It's The Airing of the Grievances!

Next week: The feats of strength!

Easterus for the rest of us!

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 11:07 PM

I agree with the poster that said that they hate when they join the comment diversion 5 minutes later and there are too many posts to even read them all, let alone join in.

Yes, I am sorry I can't quote you directly becuase I read about 50 more comments and can't find you again.

Anyway I am just saying that as a pre-tense for why I am so late in responding...but from your "I Hate Obscure Indie Bands" post Pissboy... I love you

Posted by: ashes at April 15, 2009 11:12 PM

Next week: The feats of strength!

You're going down Figs. I've been tossing Mooses for about for weeks now.

Branded, I agree with your distain for Barrymore and coountry music. As a matter of fact, I think a country song about Drew Barrymore may have been the WMD that Bushy was looking for.

Posted by: admin at April 15, 2009 11:14 PM

I SHALL LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

There can only be one!

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 11:23 PM

When do we gather around the Rowles pole and tell everyone how much they've disappointed us?

Um, reading that back, I'm not sure I like the image ... ew.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at April 15, 2009 11:29 PM

Who are you disagreeing with, figgy, me?

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at April 15, 2009 11:30 PM

i love keanu too!
i just didn't want to be the only one.

Posted by: gp at April 15, 2009 11:33 PM

Yes, commadaddy.

Posted by: figgy at April 15, 2009 11:37 PM

I would say "thanks for the catharsis", but this is just a ripple in my sea of bile.

Anything "Apatow crowd"-related, anything Diablo Cody-related, Arrested Development or The Wire (couldn't give less of a shit), the disdain for The Mentalist (which is a comfort food like mashed potatoes with real butter--and it's the first time in years that a show I like seems to be guaranteed a second season, so fuck right off), most of the new music recs (although the Telefon Tel Aviv rec and that Dead Prez cut were great!), and the lack of a requirement that those who post be 30 or over. Unless that would exclude Jay, who makes me wish I had a penis.

That last one isn't directed at a certain person, it's more of a wish for life in general. Kind of a reverse Logan's Run, where everyone under 30 and over 75 gets remanded to interment camps in the remote areas of Montana for the winter (in summer, say hello to the New Mexico desert!) and the rest of us enjoy better parking, movie theaters and libraries that are actually quiet, and networks who covet our opinions and disposable income and program themselves accordingly.

Posted by: ALR at April 15, 2009 11:50 PM

Hmph.

*makes note to return figgy's diamond necklace and tiara wedding present to jewelry store*

What? Oh yeah, the topic ...

I have fucking had it up to my ass with movies based on comic books. Fuck Batman, fuck Superman, fuck Hulk, fuck them all, because the outcome is never -- NEVER -- in doubt. Good guy wins, bad guy loses, AND YOU ALWAYS KNOW THIS GOING IN, so what's the fucking point?

Oh, sorry, maybe I should have had a *spoiler* warning on there for you "graphic novel" geeks.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at April 15, 2009 11:50 PM

Oh, and the fact that the Firefly spot in the banner is missing while Daniel Day-Lewis' Moustache of Menace is still up there.

And fuck The Incredibles, too.

Posted by: ALR at April 15, 2009 11:55 PM

Abby: I don't know if I could really disagree with a person more. Except that, yes, Heigl was weak in Knocked Up. But The Darjeeling Limited was one of my favorite films ever. People throw around that word "pretentious" to try and be cool and make up for the fact that they simply didn't understand or enjoy a film. But in fact some of the best films of all time are pretentious in that they involve a certain amount of context or re-watching to really gather the full message.

Or the film in question was, simply, in my opinion, not very good. Concluding that anyone who disagrees didn't understand or is "trying to be cool" (a pretty futile pursuit in my case) is pretty arrogant.

I wouldn't re-watch "Darjeeling Limited" for love or money. Instead I'd watch a Satyajit Ray or something else that isn't Detached White Boy nonsense.

Posted by: Abby at April 16, 2009 12:08 AM

I really don't get Family Guy.

I have fallen asleep during most (nay, all) Wes Anderson movies I've seen. All my friends think he's a comic genius but I don't ever laugh.

Jason Schwartzman is not funny.

I love LOLcats.

I feel so free now.

Posted by: Clifford at April 16, 2009 12:13 AM

"Then I'm going to cock punch him for disliking baseball."

Man, it's not that I dislike it - I just don't give a shit. Regardless, should anybody randomly punch me in the sack some day, I'm going to assume it's you, David.

That being said...

When are you gonna fess up and admit you thought Chinese Democracy was fucking brilliant, TK? Now's the perfect time...

Posted by: Skitz at April 16, 2009 12:16 AM

I just don't get Rowles' man-love for this Pookie guy. All damn day long it's "Pookie this" and "Pookie that" and "Pookie, you're the greatest." I think I speak for all Pajiblets when I say: Enough already.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at April 16, 2009 12:18 AM

I dislike Zooey Deschanel.


Ironically, though, what I dislike most is our tendency to heap criticism on things we once liked just because they got stale because we talked about them too much or heard too much hype.

Posted by: karstark at April 16, 2009 12:24 AM

I love Dharma & Greg. I own the complete series.

I also hate that Conrad somehow managed to win an EE.

I think that aside from the general storylines, any/all versions of Final Fantasy are a mindfuck of tedium* and a goddamed chore to play. Entertainment is lost...

*Who receives credit for that phrase? I use it often...

Posted by: Skitz at April 16, 2009 12:32 AM

I don't like 30 Rock as much as I like The Office and Arrested Development. The characters feel too absurd (unlike The Office, compare Jack with Michael, and one of them is a pretty funny caricature and the other is an actual sad/funny human being). Also, I hate Jenna and Tracy, they get annoying quickly. Still, 30 Rock is one of my favorite current shows, tough it isn't better than the two I've mentioned (by the way, Angel is more entertaining than Buffy)
Also, Wall-E and the Iron Giant are way better than The Incredibles (tough that was better than most of Dreamworks movies)

Posted by: Radlum at April 16, 2009 12:56 AM

OK,

I recently just said how much I don't like Jonah Hill. I'm beginning to lose my taste for the Apatow movies as a whole. I will still stand up for Paul Rudd, but everyone else needs to go away from his little posse and take some time off and regroup. And stop giving your wife larger roles in every movie. She's a sidekick, not a love interest.

Kristen Wiig, cute girl, 100 variations on the same theme.

I don't like any modern music. Who the fuck is Lady Gaga? I've seen preop trannies that looked better than her. Remember when people actually had to sing on a song?

I disagree with the Say Anything bashers, but that's your right. I was a senior in HS when it came out and it hit me just right.

Clifford - You are right, Jason Schwartzman is not funny. His mother was the worst part of the Godfather and Rocky movies as well. Remember which movie she had the most lines in? Godfather 3....and that sucked big fat schwanze.

I don't understand the Twilight love. I've avoided big hyped items in the past like Titanic and this just seems like much ado about nothing. And the two leads look to be fucking morons.

I never watched ER. And I know someone who was on the show the last 4-5 seasons.

Skitz, I love the fact that I won an EE. I hate I still haven't gotten the shirt.

Posted by: Rubble44 at April 16, 2009 12:59 AM

You know what?

Posted by: Lucas at April 16, 2009 1:00 AM

star wars.

Posted by: jasper at April 16, 2009 1:28 AM

Truth be told, I really hate baseball. It's by far my least favorite sport. I don't get it.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at April 16, 2009 1:56 AM

Um thanks Dustin, I think?

Spender: I honestly didn't mean to offend you. I guess I was referring more to the state of the internet in general, I mean how much of the site and the entertainment you get from it is derived from comments and readers' contributions? Especially when there is such a crazy band of Pajiba militants who will argue about anything. Whether that should be considered interactivity or exploitation I don't know.

How come the Pajibans don't do some sort of activism for net neutrality preservation? That could be cool.

To whoever said the thing about knowing about films, the fact of the matter is that the more you broaden your cultural and historical context in terms of cinema, your perceptions of films will change. You don't have to be so defensive just because you love Seth Rogen or whatever.

Anna von whocares: I also seriously think that you have too much spare time.

Posted by: OT at April 16, 2009 2:02 AM

Jack Nicholson

Posted by: ceejeemcbeegee at April 16, 2009 2:16 AM

I'm not sure what the grievance is. When the reviewers aren't 'bitchy' enough, that becomes a point of contention. Then, when there's an open invitation to bitch, no strings attached, hands start wringing over the whining bitchiness. This place is great fun, but I'm starting to wonder when the Pajiba Manifesto Sponsored by Biafra Books Incorrigible is going to be published.

Isn't this just a place to have fun and write sometimes intelligent, sometimes crack-addled comments on the worst celebrity hell-spawn ever
created? I vent senselessly on my poor Pajiba friends because in real life I don't like getting slapped.

Hoping that doesn't sound like I'm trying to be condescending or hypocritical.

Ah, who cares? I'm still on a high after going the most kickass concert of my life last night. I rocked out like a brain-damaged Kilted Yaksman front row, centre.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at April 16, 2009 2:37 AM

There Will Be Blood made me want to jam pencils into my own neck.

Assassination of Jesse James blah blah blah sucked ass despite having Sam Rockwell in it.

Lost has been shite ever since (and, if I'm really honest, quite a bit before) they killed Mr Eko.

Wicked I'm reading at the moment and can't wait til I'm finished, simply so I never have to pick the sodding thing up again.

Posted by: Lisa S at April 16, 2009 2:48 AM

Oh, and 2001: A Space Odyssey is totally overrated - even though I've never made it all the way through. By the time the monkey throws the bone in the air, I'm snoring and dribbling ever so slightly.

Posted by: Lisa S at April 16, 2009 2:49 AM

People you all don't like but I find quite fabulous: Rainbow Killer.

People I find overrated but still likable: Ryan Reynolds, Eliza Dushku, RDJ and Kate Winslet.

People I find straight up gross: Maggie Gyllenhaal.

Oh, and I Love You, Man was not that funny. IT WAS NOT.

Posted by: monkey_b at April 16, 2009 4:57 AM

Family Guy. It's just too stupid for me.

Posted by: FabMax at April 16, 2009 6:20 AM

OT, you must have way too much spare time on your own hands if you're bothering to respond to this weird little fake community.

Please, don't trouble yourself further. Unless you want to join in the fun, rather than looking down on our "false" sense of familiarity, in which case, go mad (arguably, literally).

Posted by: meaux at April 16, 2009 6:24 AM

Brokeback Mountain.
HATED that movie. I found it to be overrated and plodding, with no help from Anne Hathaway, who I think is a simply horrendous actress. So if you want to include a semi popular actress in the Pajiba world who I loathe, there you go.

Posted by: Kamikaze Feminist at April 16, 2009 6:33 AM

I don't get the Hugh Jackman love. Did I spell his name right? Hell, I don't care. I don't see anything attractive about the guy, especially in his Wolverine mode. All that face fur, that tank top exposing his veiny arms--ugh.

But I am currently in love with Alan Rickman, which many find impossible to understand, so there you go.

I also hate Statham. His characters have no sense of humor. I lost all respect for him in that movie where he dodged bullets despite not being in the Matrix.


Don't get the Zooey dechanel love. I don't hate her, I just don't see much of her, and while she's cute enough, she doesn't strike me as drop dead gorgeous or particularly good in the roles I have seen her in.

I love Lord of the Rings. They are gorgeous, fascinating films, beautifully acted. I am SICK to death of hearing all the bitching about how much walking was in the first one. It's a fantasy film, they're on a quest--how else are they supposed to get from point A to B?

I also find this comment diversion kinda depressing.

Posted by: DeadBessie at April 16, 2009 7:53 AM

Ok, I haven't read all the comments, so I'll just say this.....I hate, repeat HATED, HATE Seinfeld. Not funny, over-rated, self-indulgent, wink-wink, nudge-nudge, look-how-clever-we-are humor that got real old, real fast. You all suck. Now go away.

I feel better now. Thank you. Commence to hate me.

Posted by: dammitjanet at April 16, 2009 8:42 AM

- Lost gets too much attention here. What's next, a Gilligan's Island recap?

- Juno was an eyeraping "good" time, written in piss and the blood of eight year olds.

- 2001 is pretty boring, but I won't hold it against Kubrick because Dr. Strangelove is still a favorite.

- There Will Be Blood only gave me 5 minutes of joy, and that was after sitting through almost two and a half hours of ham and pretension. Still, "Milkshake", "DRINK IT UP", and "DRAIIINNAAGGEE" never fail to make me laugh.

- Tropic Thunder had a couple funny gags, spread through boring patches and action.

- Michael Cera needs to retire his retarded Muppet ass and get killed off in the Arrested Development movie.

- Diablo Cody should never be allowed near any writing impliment again, unless it's that pen and pad that they give to the wait staff at Friday's.

- Palahniuk is an ok writer. Choke didn't blow me away, haven't read any of his other stuff yet.

- Watched the first episode of Heroes...and knew it sucked off the bat.

- Watched the first season of The Office, and I haven't motivated myself to even think about season 2 on DVD. Michael Scott is the only character I could muster affection for, though Dwight is pretty funny too. What I don't get the gaganess about Pam and Jim. I mean sure, unrequited love blahblahblah, but honestly? They are the two most vanilla people I could ever think of coupling. Their potential kids couldn't be whiter if they dipped them in White Out.

- "Indie Quirk" is anything but. I don't mind indie, but it's a fine line between displaying art and screaming to the world "LIKE ME, I'M SOPHISTICATED, I LISTEN TO BLUR AND BELLE AND SEBASTIAN ON THE WAY TO WHOLE FOODS!" News flash: being a sophisticate isn't a bad thing. Neither is taking a shower, and partially selling out to the Man. The bills must be paid somehow.

- I am not a Cylon, at least I don't think I do. Ooh, "All Along The Watchtower". I love that song.

- Jason Statham is ok, but not amazing, and Ryan Reynolds is starting to wear out his welcome.

However, after all of this I can agree BSG is quite good, some of the Apatow magic is still working on me, and I'd have Kelly Clarkson in a hot minute. Just because we disagree doesn't mean we can't still like each other a lot, Pajiba.

Posted by: Doctor Controversy at April 16, 2009 9:10 AM

Skitz, you are dead to me.
Doctor Controversy, as much as you hurt my heart, I will give you one more chance. Go read Survivor or Lullaby, and THEN tell me Palahniuk is just "OK"...

Posted by: Patty O'Green at April 16, 2009 9:36 AM

I have been waiting for the opportunity to unburden my giant case of the "mehs" for Robert Downey Jr. He seems smug, smarmy, and kind of dickish. I can actually handle dickishness alone, sometimes even mild smugness, but not when combined with smarm. Bleah.

Posted by: Tubesy at April 16, 2009 9:46 AM

I may get lynched for this, but Apocalypse Now...saw it for the first time about a year ago, and really...not impressed at all. Maybe I expected too much. All I know is that when it was over, I was like, "That was it??" Same thing with The Deer Hunter. Maybe it's just war movies that suck for me, but I still think these two sucked a lot of ass.

I also didn't particularly like The Dark Knight. Couldn't help but laugh and Bale's "Batman Voice" the whole time, thought it was way too fucking long, and even though I love both Aaron Eckhardt and Maggie Gyllenhaal, I didn't think anyone did a particularly good job acting in the movie. For that matter, I hated Batman Begins as well. Boring as fuck, and I understand it's Gotham City and it's supposed to be dreary as fuck, but it was so dark in all the shots I felt like I couldn't make out what was what. Oh, and the story sucked. And I am a huge comic fan and love Batman...these movies were just a pile of crap for me.

Also Sarah Silverman = not funny at all. Rented Jesus is Magic, made it like, 20 mins in (longest 20 mins of my life) before I gave up. Her show is fucking terrible as well.

Fleet Foxes is the worst fucking band I've ever heard play in my life. Heard them for the first time when they were on SNL, and I couldn't help but question if it was a skit or not...couldn't believe that there were ppl that looked like that and sounded like that, that had an audience.

And I {heart} Dave Matthews Band. Don't care how that makes me sound, but their music puts me in a happy place, so :-P

Wow, I feel SO much better : )

Posted by: stina at April 16, 2009 9:53 AM

To all you Music Column haters:

Ahem: This is just to say that hating the music column is actually very Pajiba-like, since we've received nothing but hate since it started.

That isn't subversive.

So there. Sheeple.

Posted by: boo at April 16, 2009 9:55 AM

I like Twilight. The movie, not the book.

I've seen the movie four times. Wow. I feel better.

Posted by: Pinky McLadybits at April 16, 2009 10:23 AM

C'mon, Boo! Most of my posts in here have been in defense of the music column.
I even went out and bought "ironic t-shirts" in your honor (at least I think they're ironic... I'll have to model them for PissBoy to get his seal of approval). Ain't that lovin' you, baby?

Posted by: Spender at April 16, 2009 10:39 AM

Man, it's not that I dislike it - I just don't give a shit. Regardless, should anybody randomly punch me in the sack some day, I'm going to assume it's you, David.

I would at least give you fair warning, Skitz. I'd say something like "Avast, Evil David!!!" before the ol' KAPOW! Then I'd buy you a pint or two. Such is my respect and agreement for your opinions, baseball apathy aside. But you'd know it was me because I'm the guy who looks exactly like you, minus the evil mustache and goatee.

That said, I don't understand the Will Ferrell love, Anchorman and Stranger Than Fiction aside. He essentially plays the same character in every other movie.

Warner Bros. cartoons are far better than Disney cartoon. I'm speaking about the shorts, not the feature length films.

I've never read a Harry Potter novel, and I never plan to. There's a tirade behind that statement that involves the words "undeserved adoration," "useless British children," and "doesn't actually do anything." But it's long-winded and borders on the psychotic.

Posted by: David at April 16, 2009 10:52 AM

- Scrubs
- How I Met Your Mother
- Arrested Development (it's okay...but not great)
- people saying "loves me some"
- Ryan Reynolds
- Zooey Deschenal (I don't care if her name's spelled correctly)
- Maggie Gyllenhall (I don't care if her name's spelled correctly)
- The design trend of plastering as much random text and graphic shapes as possible into a design. It usually adds nothing to the design other than making it look cluttered.
- Nancy Pelosi
- Hollywood remakes
- Knocked Up
- Anything Joss Whedon does (although, I just started watching Firefly, and it is enjoyable...not great, but it's probably the best thing he's ever done)
- Hipsters
- Walking into my favorite bar after a horrible day at work to relax with some beer and some wings, only to find it filled with loud, screaming, college girls all talking at full volume about stupid shit like Twilight
- Celebrity gossip websites and magazines
- Trust fund hippies
- Facebook, Myspace, Twitter
- Oversized exhausts on shitty cars...actually I hate all of that after-market car shit
- Republicans
- Democrats

Posted by: dave at April 16, 2009 11:17 AM

I hate the commentators. While I enjoy the comment roundups with the best comments, I hate how ridiculously elitist the commentators themselves seem. I'm sure it is not intentional, but it is hard for me to want to comment on a review or a story, when the comment thread is devoted to some goddamn argument that has NOTHING to do with the review. It would be nice, if commentators who are "established" and whatnot made an effort to include others by staying somewhat on topic, rather than ranting about inside jokes that only 12 other people and the editors understand.

I've been reading Pajiba from the very beginning, or at least a few months in, and I love it to death. I honestly try reading the comments, and try participating, but it just never seems worth it to me.I don't have time to read every comment, or to post on every story, and it makes me feel like a second-class citizen whenever I do read the comments.

As for celebrities, like some others, I hate Kate Winslet. She is neither attractive, nor talented. And yes, I also hated Eternal Sunshine.

Posted by: luker for 2 years at April 16, 2009 11:25 AM

I tried to watch The Wire and was like are you kidding me. Don't think Rainbow Killer is that bad. TDK was ok.

Posted by: blacksred at April 16, 2009 11:31 AM

Hey luker for 2 years...I can understand how off-topic comments/arguements can throw you. Hell I myself am guilty of participating in them...but that should never stop you from commenting.

I hate the people who bitch about comments...but never comment. If you are making a comment on the review/article at hand but the thread is arguing about velcro vs. laces...no one is gonna lash out at you and flame you out because you are on the topic, but just not theirs....

...unless your comment is stupid and doesn't conform to our elitist tendencies and conform to our established opinions. Then you just suck.

But yeah...lurkers...stop being wussies because a "thread is off-topic" or "cetain commenters dominate...blahblahblah". Certain eloquents became eloquents because they decided to comment. Hell...some of them became reviewers themselves. But guess what...if you never say anything...don't bitch and moan because you never say anything. Your fucking keyboard is right in front of you...all you need to do is move your digits to the keys in a concise and coherent fashion.

Thank you for commenting luker... (dude...you totally have to keep the typo in your handle now...it's unique)...but never be afraid. And if anyone fucks with you, including me, just fuck with them right back. Just comment already...or just ignore them. Bunch of handles on a website is all we be mate.

Posted by: PissBoy at April 16, 2009 11:34 AM

Ain't that lovin' you, baby?

Posted by: Spender at April 16, 2009 10:39 AM

Absolutely, Spender. You are one of the few, my friend. Which makes you uber-subversive! High fives!

Posted by: boo at April 16, 2009 11:43 AM

A bunch of love handles.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at April 16, 2009 11:43 AM

I love Mike Myers. After "Wayne's World" and "So I Married and Axe Murder," he gets a permanent pass to do whatever he wants. No I won't watch his latest shit movies, but damned if I won't defend his right to make them.

I saw "Diary of a Mad Black Woman" 3 times, and I'll watch it again, in fact I'll watch it every time it's on basic cable. A bitchy Tyler Perry in a fat suit is hilarious.

Posted by: frumpiefox at April 16, 2009 11:44 AM

I know I'm late to the party, but: I honestly don't understand why you jizz all over yourselves for Kevin Smith and Seth Rogen. I feel like it's because they're two of the only famous people who would take the time to talk to you and because Rogen looks like Dan. They both seem like cool enough people in real life, but their movies aren't that great. I hate that growly shout-voice Rogen does when he's trying to express anger or something in his movies. It's cringe inducing. As is the "pillow-pants" kid in Clerks II and the poop scene in Zach and Miri. Anyhoo. Carry on!

Posted by: b at April 16, 2009 11:47 AM

Statham. I just don't get it.

Posted by: SofĂ­a at April 16, 2009 11:48 AM

Super late to the party, so as to accompany my whine with some irrelevance! An excelent repast.

I dislike 90% of the films on the Pajiba Blockbuster list. "Office Space" was underwhelming and doesn't deserve to be on the top banner. Ryan Reynolds has the same eye-wonk as Kristin Bell, where their gaze goes inward instead of out. They aren't cross-eyed per se, but don't pretend it isn't there.

Also, the whole thing on the site where the NEXT post down the page links to the left arrow, and the PREVIOUS post links to the right, bamboozles the fuck outta me every time. Since when, in the western world, does going right mean going backwards? The next post down from the top of the page should be linked with the right arrow.
Eh? EH?

Posted by: Lauren at April 16, 2009 11:50 AM

Spender...i thought neither of us took offense or meant offense? You need to take my words with a grain of salt dude. I'm naturally arguementative. I love to stir the shit. It's what I do. But in the end...I just want to be that gentle guy slwoly stalking the hallways of a business complex with some really rough, thick hemp roap, a crooked pipe, and a dull knife...hoping to meet the person of my dreams where they say something that upsets me greatly, but conveniently, they have no family or friends in their lives to miss them and I can simply smack them over the head with me crooked pipe and drag them to my car. Then...tie them up with the uncomfy road and introduce them to their innards in alphabetical order using my puyrdy knife.

Is that too much to dream of? I don't think so. But totally...come to the Roots Picnic and model me a shirt. I do laugh when they are witty.

Posted by: PissBoy at April 16, 2009 11:54 AM

stupid spell check...

uncomfy rope.

Posted by: PissBoy at April 16, 2009 11:54 AM

PissBoy, your advice to Luker was priceless.
Thank you. I hope all lurkers take it to heart and jump the fuck on in here feet first.
Now, let's have another beer and get back to pissing on each other's opinions.

Posted by: Spender at April 16, 2009 11:55 AM

There's a "Dave" and a "David"? Fuck. Now I have to change my name.

Posted by: dave at April 16, 2009 11:57 AM

Sweet! I love beer! But I'm totally sure yours sucks! Your beer sucks!

Posted by: PissBoy at April 16, 2009 11:58 AM

And really, PissBoy... no offense taken. I like and respect your opinions even when I disagree. That's the "Pajiba Way", no?

Posted by: Spender at April 16, 2009 11:59 AM

See what Spender and I did there??? That!, ladies and gents...is how you argue knowing full well that the other person is VERY LIKELY fucking with you. Spender...me and you are buds. Her on out....

....but your opinions are still poop. I read it on the internet so i know it's true.

Posted by: PissBoy at April 16, 2009 11:59 AM

Oh, fuck, no... NOW it's on. Anyone who thinks that "Milaukee's Best" sucks is... well, dead to me.
DEAD, I tells ya!

Posted by: Spender at April 16, 2009 12:01 PM

Damnit Pissboy. One of the few things I've picked up during my LURKING is the importance of not making obvious typos/grammatical errors during a "serious" comment. I considered pretending it was intentional, and that my name is Luke and it was super-intentional, but fuck it.

You are right that I was being a whiny little bitch (but if that ain't pajiba, then I guess I am missing the point)and so I'm going to try a trial run of actively commenting this week. But, what I was really trying to get at is that even if no-one yells at me for staying on-topic, it is almost worse to be ignored.

What would actually be useful/interesting for people like me who are die hard review readers (I even read Tk's music reviews despite them being about god-awful genres, well-written, but why the country music?), but are inconsistent comment readers, is to get some background as to the rich tapestry that is the comment thread.

I challenge one of the eloquents (or all of them) to write a "who's who" of pajiba, a master bio if you will, so that I can have a rough idea of what is going on when people are rambling on unrelated things. I mean cmon, you guys and girls can't possibly pass up an excuse to rant/rave about yourself?

Posted by: luker for 2 years at April 16, 2009 12:03 PM

Always late to the damn party.

Ahem. I hate: Office Space, Napoleon Dynamite, Borat, Say Anything (I could happily fucking kill that damned paperboy. Oh, the loathing, it fills my soul.), and honestly? I was expecting Juno and Knocked Up to be peeing-in-my-panties funny. I hate comedies that are hyped to the point where you think that you could possibly die of asphyxiation from laughing, but then when you watch them you're all, "Really? This is all you've got? What the fuck?!" And then for the next two hours you question whether or not you're losing your sense of humor. Thus, the bad movie machine sucks 4 hours out of your life that you'll never get back. Fuckers.

Posted by: Captain Steve at April 16, 2009 12:04 PM

No rape-heavy/rape-themed movies are artistically beautiful or culturally important enough to sit through all the rape and watch. None. Ever. And that includes Clockwork Orange,which I won't even read. So you can all stuff it.

/with consent, of course.

Posted by: Sweetie Dahling at April 16, 2009 12:07 PM

stina,

TOTALLY saw Fleet Foxes on SNL as well. My husband and I spent the whole time going, "Um, really?" Sounded like dudes from 5 different bands played 4 different songs while the lead singer was doing a drunk Meat Loaf impression. SO BAD, so over-the-top, so out of sync with each other. Maybe their recordings are better, I wouldn't know, because watching them live was just painful.

Posted by: Tammy at April 16, 2009 12:13 PM

Also, I really, really hate Quark. I can't stress that enough.

Posted by: dave at April 16, 2009 12:16 PM

Samuel L. Jackson. bleh.

He and Jack Nicholson can only play themselves.

Hacks.

Posted by: wsapnin at April 16, 2009 12:21 PM

I've been watching from the sidelines, but today I thought I might join the fun (ranting is fun).

This is my contibution;

Seinfeld (Kramer made me nuts and so did.....ok, all of them)
Friends
Futurama/Family Guy/and that other one (Just don't get any of them)
Final Fantasy
Sports, professional or otherwise. Unless, of course, my kids are playing.
There Will Be Blood also made me want to jam a pencil in my eye.
No Country For Old Men is a couple of hours of my life I will never get back. Yes, I realize what I'm saying, my husband threatened divorce the first time I said it, and I'm still sticking to my guns.
That thingy (

On a brighter note; I love Guy Ritchie movies, LOLcats, EverQuest, Neil Young, Ryan Reynolds, ScarJo (just not together, I'd like both to myself, but together seems wrong...)RDJ, and this website.

Thanks! I feel a great weight has been lifted. I'd love to come back and play again soon!

Posted by: Eyvi at April 16, 2009 12:31 PM

PissBoy is my hero. We should have that response to luker in a Guide to New Commenters.

Seriously. A year ago I was too afraid to comment, and now...well, now I talk to damn much. But you gotta dig your own trench in this place. And STAY there.

Posted by: figgy at April 16, 2009 12:31 PM

I'm such a noob. My comment got cut off and I didn't seem to notice before hitting Post Comment.

I tried to say "That thingy (

K, I've had my say.

Posted by: Eyvi at April 16, 2009 12:53 PM

Oh! I give up!

Posted by: Eyvi at April 16, 2009 12:53 PM

Waitafrigginsecond... So is it going to be luker for 2 years , or simply luker? You could go the whole luker no more route, especially seeing how you said you're going to do a trial run of commenting...

Anyhow... Here's some additional hate:

King Of The Hill sucks. It has always sucked.

Ditto to wsapnin on the Sam Jackson thing. He plays Sam Jackson. That's the extent of his range. Aside from A Time To Kill, his career has sucked since 1994.

That goes double/triple for McConodouche (although, to be fair, he's not really well liked around these parts anyhow), Ryan Reynolds, Owen Wilson, Luke Wilson, and Dushgoo... Dushku? Douchegoop? That sucky girl from Buffy... You know, the one with all the dumb-ass slang and fake-ass badassery? Her.

"nom nom", or "nom nom nom" used when talking about food. It 's retarded. Like saying "LOL" aloud. Fuck cyberspeak...

Scrubs. I have nothing else to say here. Yeah, it might be good, but the only good thing Zac Effron has done is slap together a couple of decent soundtracks...

The tossing around of the word "Eloquents" as though it's some secret fucking club. Pissboy was right - it's a keyboard and a goddam monitor. There's no secret handshake, there's no "cool kids" table, there's nothing but what you choose to type and the handle you attach. Fuck, ninety percent of what I toss up here is ridiculous rambling. Seriously. I haven't seen a movie in theaters since Gleaming the Cube.

The only thing "eloquent" about any of the regulars is that we know how to type a complete sentence. That's why we're shunned from AICN...

Now that's a slap right there. A SNAP I TELL YOU!

Posted by: Skitz at April 16, 2009 12:56 PM

DUDE!! Eyvi! I feel your pain! It seems like some combinations of punctuation and html tags just get wiped! I just pound my fists and kick a puppy when that happens. And you KNOW it always happens when you have something good to say....and you've typed for a mile. Has nothing to do with being a noobie. Stupid 'puters.

Posted by: PissBoy at April 16, 2009 12:56 PM

I will be happy to be the example of what not to do, if it means someone actually writes a guide.

People are much less likely to be afraid if they understand that commenter X's modus operandi is to be offended by everything, or to pretend to be drunk, or to only talk about velcro.

Posted by: "luker" for 2 years at April 16, 2009 12:58 PM

Hey luker, I'm a longtime lurker sometime commenter...I'm pretty sure people just blank on my posts on their way to funnier ones, but does it stop me? Does it fuck.

I don't care either way, it just feels good to ramble.

Hope you continue to comment, though it's still fun here either way.

Posted by: Lisa S at April 16, 2009 1:03 PM

I feel the new commenter string growing! I feel the love. I really really do. And by "the love" I mean I'm touching myself right now. I call it 'The Love'. I used to call it Napoleon because I use it to 'divide and conquer' so to speak (see what i did there?). But then I found out how short Napoleon was....


...so yeah. I could still call it Napoleon. Don't judge me.

Spender will fuck your shit up.

Posted by: PissBoy at April 16, 2009 1:12 PM

Yes, it sometimes gets dull being on the periphery, I can emphasize completely. But I'm just not invested in being Internet-Popular. I've been reading for four years, and uh, you know, screw it. People form bonds, make cliques and trade inside jokes in every possible social arena. Interpersonal dynamics won't mystically become derailed because of this bubble. Then I remember: I can't be bothered to make friends in real life, so I'm not going to ingratiate myself here either.

Godtopus, MurderTank, Eloquents, sexual banter, I don't pay close enough attention to know what any of that is. If I did, when would I be able to schedule my 'weeping softly into my pillow time'?

There's something to be said for not getting dragged into mind-bendingly hostile flame wars. I mean, if half of the remarks I see here were directed towards me, I would ruin this place with my anger.

Everyone wants to know that in some corner of the universe, there's a meritocracy that rewards intelligence and encourages bonhomie. We also want to believe that we're the standard bearers of those twin aspirations. In a setting like this, you live and die by the force of your personality and that of the ones around you. In real life, we can think of all types of reasons-- completely divorced from our actual being-- to explain why we're just not there yet. When you're anonymous, you don't get that comfort/excuse.

Rightly or wrongly, this is often around the time when pejoratives like 'hivemind', 'elitist', 'hipster douchebag', 'misogynist' start getting flung around. Thus we have entered into a round of: 'I hate X comments', 'Then stay away, nobody'. Often when reading these events, there can be a pervasive 'No Homers' aura about the place, and the feeling of exclusion I would assume can be daunting. As if one has arrived to a party that started before you arrived, and would be fine without your presence.

Individuals who are less deranged than I am could take that as a huge cue: Why even bother, right? I'm guessing the reason that some others don't want to de-lurk is because of the feeling that there's a cognitive disconnect between the notion held here that it's not blood in our veins, but ichor. Don't forget. But if that's the case, why are there descents into junior high juvenile hijinks.

Compound that with the fact that a number of comments have ended up with a spot on staff, and I guess it stands to reason that a person could become despondent over a semi-real consequence of being ignored. What makes so-and-so so great?

Speaking up and being of no consequence is far more galling than not speaking up, and adopting an air of detached bemusement over the nature/quality of the comments. But, if you don't say anything, you're depriving us of your various witty remarks.

I lurked for a long time before I posted anything. I keep reading that people are anxious about becoming a viscera sandwich for the cool kids. Bah! I posted for the first time because I felt like it, so cliques be damned, and to hell with all your mercy!

Entre-nous, I don't know what anyone is talking about half the time. I just comment on the topic, someone has to, right? All told, it's just names on a screen until you connect with the ideas of someone else, or clash. Going in for insta-popularity just seems forced, desperate and disingenuous.

I want to hear what YOU have to say, not see a sad bid for acceptance from the members who have been ordained as, or fancy themselves to be The Augers of Awesome. When a young Gershwin met Ravel, he played some of his compositions for the older composer. Not being confident enough to really let his own voice shine through, he took up the models of the European composers and music. When he asked for advice on how to make his music more European, Ravel, seeing his talent said, why be a second-rate Ravel when you're a first-rate Gershwin? Nothing lame in trying and being your super self. If some stuck-up prig gives you heat for it, tell him to go suck a fuck!

Also, Freaks and Greeks? About as special as a rolled-up twenty in a crack den.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at April 16, 2009 1:27 PM

PissBoy, Skitz, figgy, AvB, hell, all of the regulars... yes, even Barbado Slim and Pookie... bring something unique and pretty damned cool to this Algonquinesque Round Table of Snark and Cynicism. There's a lot of sniping and infighting and most of it's done in fun but even when there's a genuine firefight you know that it's just family bickering and that by day's end, everybdody's singing 'Kumbaya' around the burning effigy of Uwe Boll.
So, dear Luker and all others who wish to de-cloak, take figgy's advice and dig that damned trench!

Posted by: Spender at April 16, 2009 1:27 PM

(off topic portion)
Look I am not trying to pretend like there is a physical force stopping me or other people like me from commenting. In fact I'm being a huge hypocrite and ignoring the main comment thread for this one.

I understand that the eloquent group is NOT a table of popular kids that is exclusive in the breakfast club sense. Pissboy you are right, no one has to play any role that they don't want to, as you control your name and your public perception.

What DOES matter is that often times trying to comment is like trying to review act 2 of the sequel to a movie you also haven't seen.

What would make it much easier, is if there was an honest to god background. While I may not know BSG well, I can read the wikipedia, get the basics down and still appreciate/understand most of the damn comments. It would be nice to have that here as well for the actual commentators.

(On topic portion): i can think of at least three informercials that are more fun to watch than lost in translation--shamwow, shaving legs by rubbing things on them, snuggie)


Posted by: "luker" for 2 years at April 16, 2009 1:30 PM

Actually, my comment is (relatively)crappy. See Jo 'Mama' Besser for some actual analysis.

Posted by: "luker" for 2 years at April 16, 2009 1:33 PM

Damn...
Jo Mama's comment belongs in The Pajiba Hall of Fame.
Brilliant.

Posted by: Spender at April 16, 2009 1:33 PM

Also, it helps to be nice and hammered.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 16, 2009 1:44 PM

I was thinking about this thread in the shower this morning. (Yes, I think about Pajiba in the shower.) It occurred to me that some of the defenses and attacks of specific pop culture items seem to be more on point as to what qualifies as "Pajiban" than others. Perhaps Pajiba readers are perhaps a bit more disparate in taste than we might assume. Obviously, Dustin and company ultimately determine the prevailing conversation of what is "good" and what is "bad." I'm curious, though, what stars, movies, television shows, etc., qualify as the most "Pajiban."

For example, on the top banner right now we have The Incredibles, Office Space, Say Anything, Lost, There Will Be Blood, Robert Downey Jr., and The Dark Knight singled out. I consider myself a casual fan of all of those but a hardcore fan of only three of the seven.

My idea is to create a survey for Pajiba readers in which a grand list is presented, and each person rates each item in terms of their enthusiasm as a fan. Perhaps a scale of 1 to 5 could be used with 5 being intense fandom, 3 indifference, and 1 intense dislike. Then we could consolidate all the results and have a definitive list of what Pajiba readers most enjoy. Once this is completed, then a discussion like this becomes more relevant. (E.g., if Ryan Reynolds were statistically crowned the king of Pajiba, stating an opinion here that he sucks becomes more interesting.)

Just a random idea from a former statistician...

Posted by: DarthCorleone at April 16, 2009 1:49 PM

Get on it boy. Put your money where your mouth is. Or I guess your statistical prowess where your mouth is. whatever, you do it, cuz no one else wants to.

Posted by: wsapnin at April 16, 2009 2:03 PM

Ooh DarthCorleone, do it, do it!

Posted by: Lisa S at April 16, 2009 2:20 PM

wow, i never noticed the Lost portion of the Pajiba banner.

Jo Mama, your comments always make me smile. you say what i'm thinking--only you say it better than i ever could.

Posted by: pq at April 16, 2009 2:30 PM

I don't care how smuggy Dennis Miller it is, Skitz just successfully pulled off a Gleaming the Cube reference.

Bwahahahahahah! (Is what delight sounds like).

Posted by: Stacy D at April 16, 2009 2:38 PM

Skitz, I can't believe you hate King of the Hill. You made my love for you diminish just a bit. It's so sad. I do love the rest of your comment.

Except...I AM the Cool Kids Table, dammit. Me, alone. Join me in coolness.

And really, commenting is all about not really listening to anyone and just being really opinionated and knowing how to throw out good insults. And other witticisms. THAT IS IT.

And like BSlim said, being nice and drunk helps.

Posted by: figgy at April 16, 2009 2:41 PM

I'd be happy to do the busy work on the project, y'all, although it might end up taking several weeks at least. First and foremost, I'd need a pulpit larger than comment #300 on this thread to get everyone's feedback on what belongs on the list. Second, I'd need actual participation from enough people for it to be relevant once I complete the survey.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at April 16, 2009 2:54 PM

DarthCorleone: I just came back to see how this thread was going, and saw your suggestion. Coincidentally, I just finished writing a post/questionnaire very similar in nature to that suggestion, as I am similarly curious. It'll be published tomorrow. Do check back.

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at April 16, 2009 3:02 PM

Man, I know there's a Cool Kids Table figgums, I'm just to hipster to sit at it, dig? I'd explain, but I've got to sneek outside for an American Spirit and polish of what's left of my PBR Tall Boy before hitting the secondhand store for a pair of testicle crushing women's jeans and a junior-sized hoodie with a pocket for this month's copy of Readymade. Meet me at the VFW later and we'll discuss why Good Times is the anti-Cosby Show and you can give me a ride to the VideoTan - they found me a mint VHS of Johnny Suede... I'd invite you, but I noticed you smile too much. That and you look like you showered recently... My friends aren't into that scene...

Posted by: Skitz at April 16, 2009 3:08 PM

I'm not sure I want my personal tastes and intimacies being tallied and archived for future reference by someone like Rowles.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 16, 2009 3:19 PM

Dustin>> Right after I wrote that post, I saw your introduction on that other thread today and wondered if you were thinking similarly. I don't have much experience with web-based surveying, but there's probably an easy web engine that could be used to make it happen. If my idea has any appeal, I was thinking it should probably be a scale of 1 to 9 to allow for a little more differentiation in personal ranking. 5 could be indifference, and there could also be a separate answer altogether to indicate complete lack of knowledge. (E.g., "Who's Alyson Hannigan?") It could be broken down into music, books, movies, specific people from all arenas, etc. I think it'd be interesting to see not only what has the highest and lowest averages but also which have the widest variances (thus, inspiring the most love/hate). I'll be interested to see what you have in mind...

Posted by: DarthCorleone at April 16, 2009 3:24 PM

*sigh*

I know. I'm either too uncool and cheery (and just don't care enough) to be a hipster, or I'm way too cool for them. Either one is fine with me.

Posted by: figgy at April 16, 2009 3:25 PM

Slim >> LOL

It's all for science, I tell you! Science has never been misused. :- )

Posted by: DarthCorleone at April 16, 2009 3:27 PM

Re. the Eloquents: I actually won that game once, and I still am pretty durn sure I ain't no Eloquent. I'm just bad at shutting up.

Also, I fairly recently realized that if you're name's blue, it's a linky link and not the secret club badge.

Posted by: frumpiefox at April 16, 2009 3:37 PM

or to only talk about velcro.

Ha! That was awesome "Luker".

I haven't seen a movie in theaters since Gleaming the Cube.

And that made me pee a little, Skittums.

Posted by: Julie at April 16, 2009 3:43 PM

I'm kind of pissed that I spent the entire weekend developing a super-secret handshake only to have Skitz take me down with a hail of soul crushing denial bullets.

Posted by: admin at April 16, 2009 4:16 PM

What'd I do now?

I sincerely hope I didn't offend anybody with anything I might have said in the comments above. Please know that more than anything, I wish to be welcomed into your homes. I long to break bread with your families, peruse your vacation albums, listen to witty anecdotes, and have a safe place to lay my weary head when the night comes to an end.

Will I wait until you are deep in slumber before rising to rifle through your medicine cabinets? Of course I will. For that is what a good guest does. Will I use your good flatware to jimmy the lock on your video cabinet looking for pornographic home movies? Of course not. That would be incredibly rude. I'll simply bash the lock with a decorative vase or a picture frame. Will I raid your liquor cabinet of the top shelf libations that I earlier turned down in exchange for a glass of cheap Merlot? Yes. Indeed I will. Because I am a fiend when it comes to alcohol. And when you arise to find my under-developed, parasitic half-brother and I blacked out in your front yard with your intoxicants raging through our body and the VCR looping you and your beloved's first attempts at anal, know this: you brought it upon yourself when you invited us in...

Posted by: Skitz at April 16, 2009 4:49 PM

Hee hee hee.

Posted by: Julie at April 16, 2009 5:11 PM

I see Skitz singing "Oh, Deanna, oh, oh, Deanna...."

He ain't down here for your money, he ain't down here for your love, he's down here for your soul....

Posted by: Stacy D at April 16, 2009 5:32 PM

I am not letting Conrad into my house.

Posted by: figgy at April 16, 2009 5:40 PM

Is there any way I can have Wendel over and make Skitz wait out in the car?

Posted by: admin at April 16, 2009 5:43 PM

Err...Wendel. I get all these people confused.

Posted by: figgy at April 16, 2009 5:51 PM

NATALIE PORTMAN. Plain looking without makeup, and an extremely boring actress. I don't care what university she went too, she cannot act.

Posted by: Kayla at April 16, 2009 6:43 PM

30 Rock is boring, that Pohler chick? Eh. Natalie Portman is annoying, Arrested Development was dumb.

Oh, I LIKE KATHERINE HEIGL. A LOT.

Posted by: TWoP Fan at April 16, 2009 7:23 PM

I completely forgot to say Wes Anderson! Phew. As you were, everyone.

Posted by: Caspar at April 16, 2009 8:32 PM

Any chance we could leave this up as a weekly bitchfest? Not necessarily to go off the rails on Pajiba-likes/dislikes, but more of a "this is what I fucking hate this day/week/month" sort of thing? It'd kind of be like the weekend free-for-all, but basted in a tangy BBQ of snark and unbridled anger... Obviously it'd come with a side of deep-fried disgust and a chipolte-ranch dipping sauce...

Posted by: Skitz at April 16, 2009 11:42 PM

I prefer my anger bridled, with spurs and a whip. But that just angers my bride.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at April 17, 2009 1:48 AM

I Hate Nicalos Cage...

Everyone should by now anyway

Posted by: RonnyK at April 19, 2009 1:24 PM


















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