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Bring back (or make official again) Hangover Theater and Underappreciated Gems!

I want Cannonball Read to keep going! I love seeing book reviews from a site I pretty much trust in all other regards. And if it starts with a clean slate (whenever the new "year" rolls around) I'm totally jumping on that train.

I liked the music reviews a lot. I'm sorry to see them go. But I'll be following them in the new location.

I would like to see another Paheeba Day, since it was amazing and I want to contribute.

Yay on Cannonball Read, Two Truths and a Lie, Underappreciated Gems, Hangover Theater, Twisted Masterpieces, and Boozehound Cinephile!

Nay on... well, nothing.

Trailer Appreciation needs to step up its game. Either let's get some really awesome trailers from yesteryear that we might not have seen or start showcasing more recently released trailers. Although I guess we already do that.

Awww, I'm sad that Pajiba Music didn't fly with everyone. I looked forward to the playlists and have added a number of songs to my library that wouldn't have found their way there otherwise.

I also want to keep the Cannonball read and am more than willing to participate when it rolls around again.

Two Truths and a Lie is great fun. It could be giving the wrong people ideas though. Hollywood folk seem to have no trouble coming up with ridiculous ideas all by themselves, so I doubt that they're trolling for them, but I wouldn't put it past them either.

Please keep the retrospectives coming. Obviously, you gotta have current reviews -- but it's always seemed to me that movie critics write with one hand (figuratively) tied behind their backs, because they can't discuss the movie in full.

But the retrospectives allow for the kind of wonky deconstruction that I've always liked, and Drew Morton is presently killing it.

Oh, and I like the frequent comment diversions, myself. But I understand if it's a pain in the ass to keep up with the pace.

Oh, and the weekend hijack threads are fun for those of us who don't get their share of commenting in during their workday (grr, have I mentioned that work has been cutting into my Pajiba time?? Stupid WebSense blocking all the good stuff....)

'Kay, I think that's my two cents' worth and then some.

I reckon Pajiba Music would have worked much better (at least for me) if there was a little more diversity in the styles covered - it always seemed to largely consist of quirky indie/emo/post-rock, hip-hop or mainstream metal - and while I have much love for The Appleseed Cast, Explosions In The Sky, Saul Williams and Lamb Of God (no, seriously - I'm a little schizophrenic like that - I can go from strumming 'Marigold & Patchwork' on my guitar to frantically riffing away at 'Laid To Rest' in the blink of an eye), a lot of the Pajiba Music articles covered bands that I frankly never gave a toss about, and after checking them out as a result of the article, still never had an urge to listen to again.

I suppose that's a result of only having three or four writers - I imagine a music section of Pajiba would involve having an entire staff dedicated to just that. Hell, if you ever fancy expanding the section, I could contribute reviews in the areas of brutal death metal, post-hardcore, grindcore and black metal... But of course, that would be of interest to very few of the site's readers, I imagine.

So, yeah, I reckon retiring Pajiba Music is the way to go, even though the quality of the writing was great, despite me personally not being interested in the bands that were covered most of the time.

I think that more readers should be allowed to submit reviews of films into either the Pajiba Blockbuster, Under appreciated Gems or Twisted Masterpiece sections. I'm always in the mood to share film input, especially those of obscure and weird finds.
And bring those back, because I love them so much!

I like the "Two Truths and a Lie" thing - given how much trade news is pretty infuriating these days, it's a nice way to soften the pill by having at least one bit of "well, at least they're not doing that yet" with it. Plus, I was getting genuinely fearful that you'd fall victim to some kind of rage-induced harm, like spontaneous combustion or putting your head through the monitor.

Trailer Appreciation I tend to click on less, mostly because, out of the first few, none of them struck me as being hugely entertaining trailers. That said, I don't think I've ever seen a trailer for a movie that I thought was cool and good and artistic in and of itself, so maybe they're just hard to find?

As for the general retrospectives, though, keep 'em coming. And the Boozehound Cinephile. And the liveblogs of awful movies. Gotta love a bit of nostalgia.

I'm very fond of Two Truths and a Lie

I don't really care one way or the other for Trailer Appreciation

Bring back regular real time reviews!!!

I second the suggestion for a weekend hijack thread to be a weekly thing--maybe under a theme from a Diversion.

I like Two Truths and a Lie because, as someone said before, it keeps the worst news from being too horrible. I'm not sure about Trailer Appreciation--in all honesty I skip the posts. I'd rather get full reviews of the movies featured in them.

And I really, really love the Trashy TV reviews, and look forward to more TV reviews when the seasons start back up again.

Also, some of us in the Cannonball Read have cut-off dates in December of this year. It was only Prisco and the people who started it early who had the end date of September. So I think quite a few of us still have a ways to go and will keep writing the reviews...would it be the worst thing in the world to wait until the current participants finish? Remember that Prisco cut off the entrance date at December of last year, so maybe keep it going til December of this year?

Hmmm. What else. I would love more Guides, and more reader-vote dictated things...I love the Pajiba 10, and the votes we did for the Top 20 seasons. Being the EE master I have to say I REALLY love the stuff where the commenters help contribute to content somehow. It's one of the things I like best about this place.

Leave the inside jokes and referrences out of the stories.

Meh, Jen if that's sour grapes, my vines must be shitty, too. Finally getting regular (albeit temp) employment has left me unable to post a lot, or for that matter, really wanting to; but it's especially hard to get into the comments when it feels like most of the stories reference some hilarious comment from the night-or-so before. Again, comments are awesome for running wild, but... anyway.

Because of my absence, I assume my vote counts for half or something, so the real import thing is this...

I'd give everyone a cookie if the Boozehound would post more. I wanna learn how to drink like a lady fish.

Also...I have to say that maybe there's too many separate posts dedicated to trailers, and sometimes they don't get so many comments. Maybe do posts with 2 or 3 trailers? It might help with clutter and keep the big stories from being pushed down so fast.

More TV Whore, Boozehound and Hangover Theatre!

Two Truths is cool. Trailer, meh.

I tuned out of Pajiba Music pretty quickly, for three reasons:

1. I just don't connect much with music today.

2. And I don't have the inclination (or the gear) to explore.

1 and 2 are my fault for getting old.

3. There's so much good stuff on here now that even devoting probably two hours a day (and sometimes more) to Pajiba as I do, I still don't have the time to read everything. A good post and string of comments can eat up a good half hour, especially if I try to compose a thoughtful comment myself. I'm forced to triage, and since this is primarily a movie site the music just fell to the bottom. That's no fault of the writers at all, it's just a time management conundrum.

I'm OK with diversions going back to one or two a week, because I sympathize with DR's situation. I'm often stuck for just one topic to throw up for the weekend. But if we do cut back to two a week, I hope one of them IS for the weekend.

As for a constructive suggestion, I thought Drew's work on film noir was very well done. I would be interested in seeing more genre exploration like that.

Otherwise, I really have no problems or large suggestions for the site. I like how the thing just seems to evolve and stays fresh and interesting and funny. Very very funny. Y'all are GREAT company.

I loves the Pajiba.

I second (third?) the motion for an official weekend comment diversion/hijack.

I will miss the music column, but I guess I can just follow it in it's new home.

Also, I'm going to start begging again, but I would love to see a "Rescue Me" re-cap. This season is already over, save the finale, it gives you overlords plenty of time to get caught up and get a writer on it for next season. Please?

Pretty, pretty please??

Kudos to TK & co for the music columns, I'm guessing it's not so much the quality of your work as the scale of the task? At least movies come on a slightly more contained schedule, the sheer volume and diversity of music about makes it a tougher gig to cover in any sort of depth. FWIW, I enjoyed them anyway

But the retrospectives allow for the kind of wonky deconstruction that I've always liked, and Drew Morton is presently killing it.

Second that.

Posted by: alphawhiskey at August 31, 2009 11:06 PM

I'll third it, assuming you mean it in a good way. Ditto on more Boozehound, though Ted's time will no doubt have something to do with it. I enjoy the retrospectives, mainly because it is a chance to reconsider something I have seen, rather than just compliment a review of something I haven't.

1. I completely agree -- a weekend comment diversion type feature would be awesome.
2. Each trailer appreciation you post makes my day.
3. You guys are all amazing. If I were 13 I'd do one of those little heart things.

I like Two Truths and a Lie, although I'm usually wrong.

I didn't read the music all the time, just because, but when I did read I picked up on a few new artists. I'll definitely follow the music.

I miss Boozehound.

The cannonball reads have been great, I promise to participate next time. I've put quite a few of the books on my list to read.

It would be fun to have a Sunday morning hangover MST3K, or something. I know I check the site over the weekend, even though I know there are no new posts, but I can't help myself.

I'm very sad to hear that Music is going away. I must admit I've been slow to dip my foot in there, but I've been secretly sampling some of the offerings (and wasn't there an article or two about the old school record labels...that rocked my world) and you guys on the music team have opened more than a few doors for me. Unfair.

As for the rest of Jiba - yes, I agree with everything above - trailers did not compel, 'at least one is a lie' is pretty good, and the retrospectives, guides, Drew's Noir action, and trash tv are extremely compelling offerings besides the always quality reviews. I billionth the request for more boozehound. I like when the community gives back and random reader submissions are always interesting. I'd love more of those thorough reviews on older films suggested above.

and...I give up. I just wrote about three paragraphs on reorganizing the content on the masthead, but it sounded stupid when I re-read it, so I deleted it. I'm amazed you aren't insane yet, Rowles. All this and Axl's damn juice better be cold.

I miss the occasional "real-time" reviews of totally lame movies/shows, it seems like there used to be more.

Whatever happened to Classics Week? I see the film noir features, but its not the same without the Pajiba banner change for the week.

i tend to read nearly every post, even if i don't comment in them (no, i do NOT hog the threads). and i read them all the more when i have no idea of the subject matter. i like being clued in. plus that whole obsessive-completist thing. i found a lot of exposure to music i normally wouldn't have heard and that's a Good thing. maybe a once a week recap of what's going on from TK and the gang. otherwise, why don't you just cut off my foot or a hand? i could stand to be a little more unbalanced.

I would like to see a sample of reviews versus this site. For example, Dustin hates it, but posts 5 to 10 other reviews to show the way others are in the tank.

Conservative Corner, once a week or the like?

Lose the cliquey keep Two Truths...miss the Real Time reviews

How about a "reader review of the week"?

Oh yeah, and you could cut back on the ads - pop up or otherwise - you money grubbing whores.

No more SERIOUSLY RANDOM LIST.

More Unappreciated Gems and other retrospects. These, usually, longer and more researched or thought out pieces are where you guys shine and impress. Most of your writing about movies, rather than the celebrity gossip stuff (which is also enjoyed), is downright fucking insightful and you can feel the love for film. You are also one of the lesser pandering review blogs, and that's tough to find on inter-web technology.

Maybe try to delve into comics a little more. Maybe test out a comic section. Wednesday review of comics for a couple weeks, see the reaction. Yeah? Sound good? You all agree? Yeah?

/cocksucking off

Posted by: Sofía at September 1, 2009 1:11 AM

Yah, I vote for more of that!

The variety of content offered on the site keeps everything interesting and fresh, but more retrospectives (and guides), please! I second bringing back Classics Week, too. I always enjoy reading reviews on the older stuff, then revisiting them on DVD (I rarely go to the movies).

Sophia wrote:

Several lurkers have started posting regularly, sometimes regarding the posts, sometimes to share a special moment by the fire with the Eloquents.

IMO, anyone who chooses to post is an "Eloquent." Those who choose to lurk are Eloquents we who have not yet introduced themselves. Come on in. The Murdertank is transdimensionally non-finite. ("Bigger on the inside than it is on the outside." "That's what I said.") Plenty of room for everybody.

Sophia also wrote:

"There are thousands of other movie blogs in the web, but what makes Pajiba special and what keeps us all coming back ... is the familiarity ... So I must insist: Pajiba is a community. ... It's pretty obvious that arrogant pricks like us want to convert everybody else."

I am holding aloft in salute my ridiculously over-engineered skynet-phone (i-Prod), displaying an accurate, real-time simulation of a flame that flutters as the phone moves, and curves around as you tip the phone this way or that. Seems more appropriate than a lighter for an e-community.

Pajiba Music!
My favorite was the 90s movies list. Brilliant!

I didn't mean it in a good way. I really am not a fan of his reviews.

I like the individual album reviews, music-wise. Never quite gelled with the whole "what we're listening to this week" business - like you said, music taste is so varied, so that feature was usually met with a big "aight, whatevs" on my end.

Am I the only one who doesn't like Real-Time Reviews? I'm all for reviews of crappy movies (loved the recent one about Labor Pains), but I find the real-time ones to be a chore to read, so I often don't.

And though I've completely failed at the Cannonball Read (I'm on book #8) this year, I am game to fail again next year (really makes sense to me to make it a year thing, not a September to September thing like I guess this last one unofficially?). It's been super nifty to see myself published here every so often because of it, as well as seeing a steady stream of book reviews on the site. Definitely keep it up - you'll find a lot of people (myself included) willing to help in whatever capacity to see it back again.

Two truths and a lie is meh.

Love the Seriously Random Lists most of the time, just for the silliness.

Trailer Appreciation ... I do appreciate a good one, but honestly, how many "old" (say, pre 2000) trailers were actually good? A lot of them sucked, even those for great movies. Seems like something worth throwing in every now and then.

Would love to see reviews of any and all classics, not just from Drew Morton (who's really good btw) but from anyone willing to put some thought into it.

I KNEW I forgot something. I have loved loved LOVED Steven Lloyd Wilson's stuff. Getting to read more in-depth reviews of my beloved Doctor Who and Torchwood makes my freaking day. Seriously.
And from the Children of Earth review, a couple people joined me in the pajiba chat. And since then, I have had some hilarious, twisted conversations in there that I might never forget (no matter how hard I scrub).

I just want to chime in with the others calling shenanigans on the clique nonsense. The boo-hooing about the supposedly cliquey nature of this site has cropped up every now and again for ages, and it's ridiculous.

I've been reading Pajiba for four years, and I started commenting somewhere in the neighbourhood of two years ago. I never received a personalised email or engraved invitation to speak up; I chose to participate on my own. I don't remember how many comments I wrote before anybody replied or addressed me directly for any reason, but it was more than a few. That wasn't because I was being excluded, it was because I hadn't been speaking up long enough to be remembered by anyone, and it wasn't like I was saying anything mind blowing. Anyway, even if I were runnin' around saying awesome shit all damn day (which I assure you has never happened), it would be both presumptuous and more than a little childish to assume I'd receive some kind of benediction for gracing this place with the glow of my incandescent presence.

On the whole, this site draws a pretty great crowd. There's just a higher calibre of contributor around here, so witty and insightful commentary is considered normal -- even expected -- and thus rarely praised for its own sake. Being generally interesting and entertaining won't earn anyone an automatic, "You are both a joy and a delight!" because this isn't goddamn kindergarten, and it's nobody's job to swan about reinforcing self esteem.

Yes, some of us have built history with each other, but we established the relationships we have by participating. We had conversations and we got to know each other, because more than anything else, this site is a community. The idea of community does not always indicate exclusivity, and someone's failure to participate is neither the fault nor the responsibility of any member of the community. To feel included, you simply need to include yourself.

In other words, just speak up so we can get to know you. And promptly defile you, because we're filthy. And usually drunk. Like Amish kids at rumspringa.

Drew Morton is presently killing it.

Second that.

Posted by: alphawhiskey at August 31, 2009 11:06 PM

I'll third it, assuming you mean it in a good way.

Indeed I did.

Ah, well. I suppose I took the remark out of context. My apologies.

SLW's reviews and retrospectives I really like. Drew's, not so much.

As for non-opinion based items, I would like to see Cannonball Read given its own section on the site. Maybe make it easier to track an individual's reviews.

I have a love/hate relationship with "Two Truths and a Lie" because the world would be a much better place if all those posts were filthy lies. But the guessing is fun, and I'm sure there will be no shortage of crappy ideas to use.

Prisco's reviews of the Air Bud movies were hysterical. There have got to be other series of movies that could use the same treatment, even if the cost to the reviewer is pretty high. I know there are 7 Howling movies, and at least 4 Leprechaun movies. How has the Howling not been rebooted anyway? Someone call Rob Zombie!

I may have to suck it up and get a blog if there is a second round of cannonball read.

How about review by request. We say the title of a film we want reviewed (possibly in a comment diversion)but has not been covered by the site, and you guys can review it for us.

I tend to skim the pajiba front page for thing's I'm interested. I pretty religiously read Pajiba Love and movie reviews of movies that I've just seen (new or older).

I usually skip over the music reviews--not because of the quality of writing; I'm just one of those people who gets nothing out of music reviews unless I have the album in question)--and the trailers because I've usually already seen whatever's being featured over on Oh No They Didn't.

My only real suggestion would be to consolidate a lot of the stories into one article like Pajiba Love. I know you probably want to update as new movies info comes out, but it makes the cite seem cluttered.

Um, no shit I can comment on whatever I want, when I want, how I want. This is the internet. No one needs a permission slip.

I was talking about some of the obvious inside jokes from the night before in actually stories and comments (and I believe Jen was, as well).

But, hey, thanks for ironically jumping all over people's comments in a suggestion box in order to prove your point that all comments are accepted.

No one was attacking baby announcements, the tribute to Pink, or the oft hilarious hijankings... I can't officially speak for Jen, but I know I was speaking specifically about news pieces and sometimes reviews that directly reference comments that you may not get if you hadn't read a trade news piece comment section from two days prior.

*knocks on the ceiling* Hey, TPTB, what's the point of having a suggestion box if we're going to get attacked for our suggestions? Couldn't you just say (and I assume you eventually will), "Meh?"

Suggestion: Get Drew Morton to do an "alternate take" review of Inglourious Basterds.

In fact, get more than one opinion on any given movie as much as possible. I'd like to see Dan Carlson's view AND The Prisco Kid's view on, say, Moon. Or Public Enemies. Etc.

RE: the clique....

I call bullshit. I can remember when there were like 12 people who commented on this sight. Now...I can't even keep track of all the handles I see, and it's fucking awesome. SPEAK UP! I have met TK, Dustin, Julie, Nicole, Stacey, Prisco, Kamikaze Feminist, Lizzie, Genny, Mr. Creosote, Mr. Seth Fry-lock...god I can't remember the rest... Anyhow, i have met numerour 'Jibans in real life as a result of this site and consider every one of them to be the coolest motherfuckers on the face of the planet. We all have a common bond and that's what made it so rad. We have tall kids, fussy kids, kids with dready locks, black kids, white kids, even kids who look like jocks (seriously...Rowels looks like a frat-boy) love reviews. Pajiba reviews! Re-views...kids...love...to...reeeeeaaaaad!

By definition, a 'clique' is an exclusive circle of people with a common purpose. Aren't we all here for the same purpose? My point is, we are definitely a clique. A clique of thousands of people. Some come. Some go. Some cum all overt the place. But no matter what...we're all accepted. Using the word 'clique' is a weak-ass move. Because there's nothing anyone does to exclude any one person. Go up to any other group of strangers anywhere...and see if you'd be as welcome.

I dunno about everyone else, but I feel like Pajiba is part of my every day. i feel like a minority share holder of a company that's customer-centric and if i have a problem with the CEO (Suck it Rowels!) i can call him on it or make a suggestion and he'll consider it.

We all hold a share...it's just your option whether or not you'de like to exercise it.

Viva Pajiba!!!

How has the Howling not been rebooted anyway? Someone call Rob Zombie!

Posted by: Mrcreosote at September 1, 2009 6:49 AM

You just shut your suck, good sir!

I swore off the music posts when I realized that the writers rarely wrote about music I had heard of, and 2) when I saw that they tended to slam or at least marginalize older acts and performers. In other words they just weren't writing to me.

As far as the other content on the site, I pretty much like everything and hope you don't cut any of it. Each reviewer is a better writer than what I find in mags and newspapers, even when I don't agree with the opinion (you thought Wanted was good, seriously?). You never know which items are going to evolve (devolve) in the comments section into some kind of free-for-all.

So without removing content, I would enjoy even more TV content (especially recaps). I realize that you don't necessarily need this place to become TWoP, but I think there is room for another running recap series or two from Rescue Me, Californication, Dexter, 30 Rock, FNL, Mad Men and the like.

I've enjoyed the return of EE but I do understand how it might reinforce the "cliquey" perceptions. figgy has done a good job selecting the some of the best comments, but because a handful of you are just too damn funny, the same names appear often and it could appear to some to be the "cool kids fellatio hour". I don't know how to fix this, since Pajiba doesn't need to be some affirmative action social experiment.

MORE HANGOVER THEATRE!!!(and underappreciated gems)

So we who are complaining about the clique are told repeatedly here that our opinion about it is wrong?

I think what people are saying is: Jump the fuck in - the ocean is big and there's room for everyone. If you want to be a part of a community, participate. If you want to stand outside and smoke, then do that. Jesopus ain't into cliques; he loves all Pajibans like he loves his transgendered self.

I like Two Truths and a Lie.

I miss Boozy, but I know that can't be helped.

I miss afternoon comment diversions.

And anyone who feels that this place has turned into a clique, please feel free to sit by me. I have cookies.

I know that you guys need to fund this website, but the pop up ads piss the hell out of me. And the ads where you have to click them closed in order to look at a column... Every. Single. Time.

Also, I use my university's super fast internet connection to view pajiba, and I still have to wait for the page to load. Of course, that might not necessarily be due to ads but because of the 5000 comments per column that are sometimes left. It's annoying. How about an option to click on an icon to open the comments so that those of us who would just prefer to read the article are spared having to wait?

I miss both Ranylt and Ted...I know they'll be back eventually so I'm just biding my time, and I'll be so tickled when they reappear.

Let's see, what else? More TV Whore, please. More real-time reviews. More television recaps (I'll even volunteer to do a show). I'm all for another Paheeba Day, and this time I may even be able to participate since chances are I won't be giving birth on that day again this year.

Other than that I'm pretty happy. It's taken me a while to get used to the changes that were made last year, and I don't get to read or comment nearly as much as I used to, but I'll always love Pajiba and everyone here. Keep up the good work.

Proposed changes sound coolio to me.

RE 2 truths and a lie: I never read it. I honestly don't even know what it is, but the title does not intrigue.

And I don't really care about the comment diversions, either. I'll click on one every now and then, but mostly, unless it's about movies or TV, I don't read it.

I never read the music reviews, for reasons I think I've already voiced. And I've never once clicked on a trailer appreciation post. I'm sure they're amusing, it may be a function of there being only so many hours in the day, but there's so much stuff now, I don't have time to read it all. And I agree that a review of well-known "classics" seems kinda pointless. Unless it's part of an overall theme, like "5 Underappreciated Zombie Movies" or something like that.

RE "cliquishness" - Um, I think the comments on such are kinda valid, but the in jokes and whatnot do not keep me from commenting if I want to. I do stop reading comments, however, if they get too off-topic. Comment threads are by their nature free-form, sometimes they go off on tangents, which can be amusing until the comments, some of them sexual in nature, become tiresome. I'm not a prude, I don't have a problem with off-color comments at all, but if people wanna get their virtual swerve on, could you take it offline or to another forum? I don't wanna scroll through 20 comments about someone's tits or ass to get to something interesting. So I don't, I just leave. It's not just Pajiba, I find this crap annoying on other sites as well. I'm not saying it's terribly common on here, but when I do see it, it always annoys.

And as long as I'm bitching, and since you asked, I've always disliked that "Eloquents" thing. The self-reverential name and the whole idea. I'm probably in the minority on that.

I do also like the real-time reviews.

And anyone who feels that this place has turned into a clique, please feel free to sit by me. I have cookies.

*sits beside Julie* What? I love cookies.

The only suggestion I have is to bring back the "blog" reviews. Does anyone remember when we did reviews for like three blogs? I'm sort of addicted to blogs and am always looking for new ones so was thrilled when Pajiba started reviews.

And then it went away.

And Kelly was so sad.

Can we bring that back? Hell, I'll volunteer to check them out and write up reviews for them. I'm a Canadian - that makes me automatically trustworthy.

Pretty please, with Canadian maple syrup on top?

I think some people are missing the point of PART of the "clique" argument, which is: It's annoying to read an Actual Content Post with some sort of insider joke in it (or an avalanche of them), when the only way to comprehend said joke is to sift through six hundred comments on whatever other posts you may not have had the time to read during the course of the week.

(It's also off-putting to watch all you wacky cool kids jump down people's throats for pointing it out.)

Of course it's obvious, if you want to join the club that badly, you just comment, dammit. What I thought people were talking about was when the commentary bleeds into the content, to the point where one can't just casually browse the site without feeling like you're missing the joke all the time.

My perception is that it doesn't happen very often, and when it does, I personally decide whether I want to track down the gag everyone is giggling about, or if I want to go do something IRL-related. But it happens enough that I knew what the OP was talking about. And since this is a suggestion thread, it seems a valid point to raise.

With respect, TCFKAB, it's more like Caroline is saying "Actually, you guys seem to have loads of inside jokes and constantly reference things that I have no clue about, because I didn't refresh the last 6 comment threads before coming here, so I might just go swim somewhere else for now" and you say "No no, it's fine, really, we'll be totally welcoming and love you like jM loves panda! Also, tits reference!"

For what it's worth, I think Kayanne has it right. There's a line between this place being a community that has its own touchstones and reference points, and every article descending into the same handful of people talking amongst themselves, and I think Pajiba definitely spends a lot of its time straddling the middle ground between those two. This being a 'Suggestions' thread and all, it seems like a reasonable place for people to bring it up without being told "stop whining" or "boo-hooing" or that it's all in their heads. Which isn't to say that all of the comments in response to the suggestions of clique-y-ness have been bad; who wouldn't want some of Julie's cookies? But that...if you think of Pajiba as being like a giant party with everyone invited, if someone new shows up and says "I feel a bit out of place, and it feels like there's a whole group at this party that I'm very much not a part of", there's a nice way and a less nice way to try to help them past it.

Dammit I'm huggin' Shay, too!

Like...are they tan, with piercing blue eyes, great hips, But love treacle and have smiles that look like they snack on brick sandwiches?

Obviously we have met. Were you that guy in the bar trying desperately to find a girl who was drinking a lighter beer than you? God, you were so cute.

I can totally offer/whore out gifts of beer and bacon if it'll bring back the blog reviews though. Hell, I'll even throw in some moose steaks to barbeque and a Canadian goose to poop on your lawn.

RE Robert: "However, there are times when, as a newer member of the site all that time ago, I was treated like I was some kind of idiot who drifted in off of a Google search and a whim."

Yeah, I've seen this happen a few times. I don't like it. People shouldn't do it. But it is "scathing reviews for bitchy people." They kind of warn you up at the top.

It helps to not really give a shit what anyone else thinks. I don't. It's very freeing. I understand if not everyone can be as callous as me, but keep in mind, many of these people are kinda young. Some of them think insulting other people's choices are how you establish cultural bona fides. Whatever. I don't take this shit personally. If other people agree with me, cool, if they don't, that's cool too.

Perhaps it's because I have a glorious rack.

YES.

Just chiming in, momentarily, to note that I am still reading the suggestions (thanks for the feedback!), and some of these have already been factored in. For one, The Boozehound will be back mid-month(!). As Nicole mentioned above, Cannonball Read will also return, and now be hosted on this site. With Pajiba Music gone, TK will be able to focus his attention to Blockbusters, Hangover Theaters, and Gems, and we're also continuing our Films of 1999 series. TV reviews will return when TV shows return, this fall. I'd like to add another recap series, in addition to "Lost," but we'll have to figure out which one. I'm currently working on the weekend hijack threads -- those should become a regular feature. And I know some of you like the Real Time Reviews, in theory, but the page views generally don't support that, in practice. We'll see what we can do there. Oh, and neither Drew or Steven are going anywhere, hopefully for a long time.

Now: As far as the cliquish quibbles. There's not too much we can do about it. However, I completely understand the complaints about referencing comments/commenters in the news/reviews. I really try to refrain from doing that (as do the majority of the writers), except for the community building posts (EE's, comment diversions). In order to increase participation below the comment line, it's often important for us to limit ourselves to above the comment line. I hear that. It's also why a lot of us don't comment often, which doesn't mean we don't read the comments. We just like to keep the two spheres separate.

I want nekkid pictures of Dustin Rowles, covered in Crisco....not Prisco, although the latter would definitely be interesting from a 'Gee...that smile says Dustin sure is enjoying this a little too much' perpspective as I imagine a nekkid Dustin covered in Prisco would have a smile on his face more brilliant than the one plastered on a retard watching me jingle my car keys. Make is happen Rowles.

/end suggestion

I loved it when y'all added the preview of the comments. No more shall I leave* and italic tag all by its lonesome. So, my suggestion is technical:

People are always bitching about spoilers. So, why not create a spoiler tag for the reviews? Anything encompassed in the tag is hidden unless the person chooses to expand it. Then, if the reviewers use it correctly, people can't complain because they fuckin' clicked on it. It couldn't be that hard(I don't know shit about web design).

Speaking of design: why does it take me upwards of one minute to see my comment actually posted? Seriously, I send you text, you post it. What's with the delay?

Oh, and, uh, cut Two Truths and a Lie, Pajiba Love, Cat Poster...uh, Completely Random Lists like "Everything I needed to know I learned from...". I suppose I could never sway you into cutting Pajiba Love, but cut that Two Truths bullshit. Oh, and William Gnoss's little comedy bits where the agent calls the other agent are horrendous, and basically lead to the exact same "Fuck you! Don't give them any ideas! Murdertank, y'all!" comment threads. They don't fit into any sort of reviews, really.

* - What are the fucking escape characters? What if I want to type ""? Seriously, it's like S&M without the safe word.

Vee: Pajiba Dictionary, all ready for ya :)

http://www.pajiba.com/guides/the-official-pajiba-dictionary.php

I think that trailer appreciation can be done without.

For sure we need more TV columns.

As for the exclusivity of the commentors. I have been reading for a couple of years (I didn't make my way down the comments until recently though) and even though I am technically a 'lurker' I feel like a part of the community and I get most of the 'inside jokes'. I have probably only commented about 5 times but I never felt as though I was discouraged from it. Usually I just felt like most of what needed to be said already was and as for the off-color stuff, I have always enjoyed it even if I wasn't participating.
Although there was that one bit with the maple syrup with Admin but he never got back to me on that...

Thanks Julie! I knew there was one somewhere. How about linking to that under the "About" section so newbies can find it easily?

Allow for images/videos in the comments.

Keep it clean Mister!

I'd like to add another recap series, in addition to "Lost," but we'll have to figure out which one

*cough* Rescue Me.

Huh, I did not see this at all until this morning. Well, I'll have to open my big mouth:
-I like Two Truths and a Lie (and I stopped cheating!)
-I'm not over fond of Trailer Appreciation (I like it in theory, and I do love trailers, but I rarely see a trailer that really sticks with me)
-More Sarina and her heathen pie-hating ways
-I love love LOVE Drew and Steven. LOVE. (I still miss Ranylt, but at least I have those two to keep me warm at night until her glorious, triumphant return.)(And they'd better stick around when she comes back.)
-I also can't wait for the Boozehound to come back
-I love the Cannonball Read, and I love reading all the different voices present when those reviews are posted. I will definitely join this year, though I'll probably be one of the slower readers.
-I love the point/counterpoint idea, that Deist and Skitz suggested. LOVE. (oooh, Drew vs. Ranylt? Come *on*!)
-I would love to see real time reviews, at least on occasion. I realize they can be lengthy, but if you put one up, say, one a month, we could still have them without taking up too much space.
-I am all about Paheeba Day being a regular (perhaps annual?) event. I do think weekly might be pushing it. But I think it's a lovely way to commemorate our beloved Pink, to give our girly sides a chance to come out, and to throw some guest voices in the mix, which is always fun. Not that anything is wrong or bad about it, but most of the writers here are of the male species, and it's great to have a day of feminine perspectives. Like a treat.

Well, that's my $.02. Geezum sasquatch, I sure do talk a lot. Anyhoodles, changes or no, I sure do love my Pajiba. Kind of like I love my heroin.

Oh, and I'm going to disagree about the references to comment threads in the actual articles. I've seen that happen only very occasionally, and I don't think it's all that big a deal. I don't know what they reference either, sometimes. I ask, or just let it go. It's not a life-changer. Well, except for the times when it is.

More trash TV! More trash TV!
Or just more TV in general. You have the movie thing very well covered, no complaints here, even on the columns I don't read all the time. But if we're losing music, we must have more TV.
I, for one, would enjoy a good skewering of a VH1 "reality" show once in awhile. Especially the ones I like. I'm looking at you, Tool Academy.

For those who feel discouraged from posting here, witness the story of one of my new favorite commenters: "Luker" the Barbarian. I can't remember the exact details, but he came in one day, saying he was a 'luker' (a typo in his name) and voicing a contrary opinion. He was attacked (of course he was. this place has its assholes just as every other internet community does) and boy did he stand up for himself. He argued, he dove in, and he kept the name forever. And now he's a prolific and well liked commenter. so just take a page out of his book and dive in. I get keeping the inside jokes out of the posts, and I get the fear of posting. But remember: we weren't born eloquents. we all had to dive in.

As for the real suggestions: I'd love a point-counterpoint review. Someone who hates a movie/book/tv show and someone who loves it. For example, I noticed that The Corrections is a polarizing book among readers here--or at least, PStep loved it and John Williams hated it. I'd LOVE to read a conversation between the two about it.

And as much as I love the insightful reviews of great movies, I'd also love a running feature on the Worst Movies, as Christian H. Sort of a "Overappreciated Gems", but angrier. How about reviewing Razzie "winners"?

Oh, and I'd just like to add my love for Dan's reviews of The Movies of 1999. I really loved those. Could there be a feature for...The Movies of....the 30s? the 40s? Just maybe one month dedicated to one decade, and all the reviewers get to pick one movie to do. I really love reading Drew's reviews of classic movies, but I'd like to see what the other reviewers thought as well.

Guess Who, would it be way too meta to put your comment in the EE?

Just chiming in again to say I would also be very interested in some point-counterpoint type reviews.

"Jane, you ignorant slut."

Whorish Mouth - Was the premiere episode of this season's Tool Academy not the greatest spectacle in the history of EVER??? I am so grabbing my popcorn every week and tuning in!

When the girls did the real-time chat of "The Hills" for last year's Paheeba Day - it made me laugh so damn hard I think I hurt myself! It might be fun to do an occasional real-time chat of a different shitty reality show with a group of people gathering to watch and comment? An open thread like with the Presidential/Vice Presidential debates or the award shows but far less classy and cerebral. Like for "Tool Academy" or "Rock of Syphilis" or anything with Tyra...

Also, to beat a dead horse, no one is saying that anyone's feelings are wrong or invalid. I think the general point that is trying to be made is that Pajiba tends to be more of a community than a lot of other sites and because of that, friendships and in-jokes are going to bleed into the content. It's bound to happen. And yes, when you're on the outside of it, I'm sure it is off-putting and confusing, but trust me when I say, it was like that for every single one of us when we first started coming here. When I first started reading, there were comments in the articles about "sandy vaginas" and the Dept. of Homeland Security taking down the site - I had no idea what any of these things were, but I didn't feel like I was being left out because other people who were here before I was were having a conversation and referencing events I wasn't a part of. I just kept reading and found something that *I* could relate to and commented on it. And I got ignored. And then I tried again. And I got ignored. And then I tried again...

Oh! and just because I'm reading the post right now: I'd like the answers for the Two Truths and a Lie to be posted sooner. I don't like suffering for so long.

Ooh, I like that idea Stew.

I preferred it when the trade news came in a daily roundup (like Pajiba Love) rather than the individual posts. Many of the individual posts are titled so cryptically that I have no idea what the topic of the post is, and I don't click on them when that's the case.

And I know advertising is necessary, but I loathe the "Click to continue to site" ads. I hate them sooo much, it, it the, it, flame, flames, FLAMES on the side of my face, breathing, breathle...heaving breaths, heaving....

Aren't inside jokes going to be a staple of ANY small community you wish to join? It's no different here and on other highly interactive online sites than it might be if you physically moved to a small town where the residents have mostly lived there for 30 years and know everybody else. Right? I mean, there are a couple baseball sites where I've hung out for years and I still don't get all the jokes all the time.

It's just the way it is, not just here.

Right back atcha, Kayanne.

Smooches!

Thanks, Dustin I know you try and keep the stories free of yokes, but, ya know. Anyway, I appreciate the effort you fine folks put into this establishment. Thanks for letting us voice or suggestions.

Guess Who! I think I agree with you about everything. Including EE and carrying the whole clique-thang.

Yea, I used to be a lurker defender, but it just became too hard to tell people "sorry" for making you feel excluded when there were so many people complaining that it's the fault of the lurker for not being involved.

GIVE + TAKE

I gotta say I never read a thread in which anyone was "attacked" for their unpopular opinion

Really, DB you haven't read this one... Or were you not here for the election coverage? Things got nasty. And not the internet approved kind of nasty. But alas, that's politics.

Also, yay for returned hugs.

Ouch. Ow, ow, ow, ow. What the ... ? I'm in ideeeeaaaaaa. This must be what having and idea feels like. Mother. Some maternal figure. It burns, itches actually ...

It seems to me that Pajiba is a little more like a mythology show than adventure of the week, and that that can be a fine economic model. The posts stand alone well enough, and also reference stuff that makes them richer. Lose that and you become USA Today and we already have one of those. Meanwhile, mythology shows - the good ones - have rabid, persistent fan bases who spend money freely on what they love.

Oh! Skitz reminded me... I forgot to mention my suggestion of a Nude Pajiba Staff Pictorial.

RE Allow for images/videos in the comments.
Posted by: Vi at September 1, 2009 12:39 PM

No. Please don't do this.

Yeah - nudity is where it's at, man. What d'you think all the hep cats are doing nowadays? Frittering around on their "computerphones"? Shit no, man - they're looking at boobs and butts and wieners and nipples and balls and people humping other people and ladies peeing on guys and short men sucking toes and slow dancing nekkid people grunting and people kissing people with their mouths open and handcuffs and goats in diapers and whips and groins and trampolines and stuff. You wanna make Pajiba a super-duper site? Here's what you gotta do to blow all that other shit outta the water: QUICK. ACCESS. TO. PERVERTED. SHIT.

Listen, you know where kids are getting all their wackadoo pervo kicks from? Do you? Truck Stops. Yeah. Truck Stop magazine racks. That's it. Unless they're lucky enough to have a Mom & Pop Pervo Porn Emporium in town, that's where they're getting their vulva fixes and pecker pics. How sad is that? That's fucking Russia sad, man. Russia sad. So here's what you do: You figure out a way to put all of that crazy, latex covered, dirty nurse, scrotum-shackled, ass-paddlin', oil-wrasslin', pig-boxing, superfly porn on computers? You're swimming with the big boys, Rowles. That's where the brass ring is nowadays. Screw print. You manage to get people to use computers for rubbing one out at three in the morning or before they pop a waffle in the toaster and you're in like Flynn. I'm telling you...

Nudity is where it's at.

I still write comments and then delete them without posting all the time, because I decide they aren't good enough.

Hee! I still do that Lauren, and I've been commenting WAY TOO OFTEN for almost two years :)

Guess Who!, The only people who complain about cliques are the socially backwards asshats who flunked Playing Nicely With Others, 1A. These poor fools view their social exclusion as a compliment, mistakenly assuming that their permanent place on the edge of social groups makes them special. Drunk on hubris, that nectar of entitlement, they amble through life alternately whining about the ills committed against them and asserting their social ineptitude by lashing out at society in a variety of ways.

My hat is off to you, sir. You provide our humble community with an important service by standing as a prime example of the poor saps I have just described. Truly, your dedication to your life's calling is exemplary. No EE award is needed to commend you, for you have truly achieved your life's ambition. Rest assured of your singular greatness, GW!, for you have earned your solitary place in society. Be glad and rejoice, for great is your reward in the Heaven of the Social Miscreants.

Yeah, I've missed you too, Kayanne.

The porn knockoff idea sounds disturbingly intriguing.

I just don't like the excessive ads in here, I've gotten in trouble at work twice already because o Pajiba advertisings, once because of Pamela Anderson and again because of them wrestling chaps that I think now my boss thinks I'm kind of gay. Nothing wrong with that but hey I don't want people to think that.

I like the Two truths lies thing and the trailer apreciation is really cool. I think also that the thing where you select the best comments of the week should be different, it's too long and not funny at all, maybe you should make it shorter or at least tell people "hey, be funny!" and all.

Oh yeah, and I almost forgot that also Dustin should watch The Wire.

figs, sweetheart, babydoll, bless your little heart, this isn't an "AH EVERYONE HERE SUCKS AND I HATE YOU ALL!" rant. Seriously. I'm just trying to make a point.

There are plenty of people here that feel left out. It doesn't matter how many times you say "jump in!" there will still be people who feel like you're gonna bite. Because, and let's just be honest with ourselves here, sometimes, y'all do. This is not an attack, it's just a statement. I understand many of you love and adore this place like it's a(n even cooler) family, but people have the right to say that... well, sometimes y'all aren't familial to everybody and that is off-putting.

Pu on your big girl panties and either invite them to tea or hush. Because honestly, waving some goshdarn flag and screaming "Infidels!" does not help with the appearances that you're welcoming. True fact, y'all.

And I'm not doing this is a personal attack, figs, I'm just speaking up for the underdog, not the masses.

buc don't lie.

Suz, you put too much emotional stock in the things I say, I’m just here for the reviews and on occasion to make wiseass comments. Please do not take me so seriously, life is too short to dwell on some silly nonsense from a guy that goes by the name “Pookie,” I mean “Guess Who!.”

Figgy I’m just breaking balls, to be honest EE couldn’t be in better hands.

There seems to be a lot of women here chiming in on the future of pajiba. I say that because all these women here and no has made me a fucking sandwich yet.

Dear lord, how do these things turn into lurker vs regular so quick? Anyway, for the sake of those non-regulars, here my suggestion: every time one of the writers mentions something like the godtopus or murdertank, it gets hyperlinked to the dictionary entry. That way, people can just click on the word and figure out what the hell it means if they're confused. Also, I second the dictionary link on the main page suggestion.

But the thing is, you're essentially asking us to censor ourselves. Part of our joy in this community is that we *can* say whatever we like, we can argue (and heaven knows we love to do that) for or against something or someone else, and yes, sometimes those arguments turn ugly (particularly in the threads that get political). Just like in real life, with my "birth family", where I don't censor myself, and if someone wants to argue with me, I don't resort to name calling, just like I don't here. The majority of the regular commenters don't. And, as someone above mentioned, I don't take it personally when people shoot me down, or, heavens forfend, ignore me. I have also been known to change my mind if an argument compels such action.

In addition, it takes time to get to know someone and feel comfortable, or familial, with them. Just like in life. And other times, you take a liking to someone right away, and then it turns out later you don't get along as well as you did initially. And that's okay. Everybody can't like everybody else; it's just not possible. But, just like in life, I'm not going to watch everything I say for fear of hurting someone's feelings or offending. Finally, there's only so many times we can "put on [our] big girl panties and invite them to tea" before we give up, and we shouldn't have to "hush" if it's not to everyone's liking

I hope this doesn't sound harsh in any way. It is, once again, not my intention to "attack" anyone. I am simply stating my opinion on the discussion at hand, which is that I shouldn't have to keep quiet to appease anyone. I close by saying: the commentary contained herein is not representative of anyone but me. I pretend to speak for no one but myself and OH DEAR GOD A GIANT SPIDER JUST LOWERED ITSELF FROM THE CEILING RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY DAMN FACE HOLY CRAP IT'S BIGGER THAN MY HEAD AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HELP MEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Look, when even Guess Whookie says y'all should just stop worrying and comment, y'all should just stop worrying and comment.

AvB, a shiny nickel for using the word "forfend". A shiny nickel may be no use to you if you've been killed by a spider, but I offer it anyway.

When I'm feeling ignored in a comment thread, I find self-flagellation helps. I whip an Apple mighty mouse over my shoulder repeatedly, all the while intoning "Nothing. To. Contribute".

I remember when I first came around. I was a dipshit who thought it was funny to call "first" in a thread and was promptly ridiculed. Then came a welcoming committee of Skitz and Pookie checking on the new chickmeat. Skittums made a mockery of me and won himself the first and only PajibOscar. It ain't all happy farts, marshmallow tits and tequila toasts around here.

1. I usually lurk rather than comment because I get here late in the day and somebody else not only has said it, but said it better. Sucks to be me. I deal with it.

2. A few more real-time reviews would be appreciated. They are hysterical. I need all the funny I can get.

3. Paheeba Day - rather than once a week, maybe make it once a month-ish. But not on a regular schedule. So it's comes as a bit of a surprise and shock, so to speak....

Commenter Profiles
On that vein, would there be a way to let posters have profiles? Cause my memory is wretched and I can't remember who's who sometimes since there are so many commenters, and I think that would help with the community vibe. Maybe this would be hella hard to accomplish.
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I cannot second this enough.

Also, the reason that we act like a clique is that we ARE a clique: "Noun: a small exclusive group of friends or associates." Exclusive because we don't talk sports (much) and we don't talk politics (much) and we don't talk religion (much), unless (usually) it relates to movies or TV or books.

We're movie and TV and book geeks. But we're not like "Mean Girls" or anything, we're a friendly clique.* Do you like movies and TV and books? Do you like talking and arguing about them? You're in. But come with your opinions reasonably well thought-out and prepared to defend them, or I can't be responsible for what happens to you.

*-Usually. I speak not for BarbadoSlim. And if you don't get that reference, then just lurk a little longer.

SaBrina...who are you? :-)

I remember you SaBrina! Girl, stay away from political threads at non-political sites. They never turn out well.

How about a brownie?

Posted by: ashes at September 1, 2009 8:28 PM

For that, ashes, I'd love you if you were the color of a baboon's ass.

Lurkers, just remember that we regulars can't even keep all our inside jokes straight. No one will be offended if you don't know what Macho Nachos are. When you get frustrated, just remember Rick Moranis's famous words:
"I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes!"

Heh, thanks Cindy. Brownies! And bosom-hiding! My night definitely picked up.

(Btdubs, I know people are generally aware of my existence, and that Deist was joking. :) That wasn't exactly my point, but it's not important.)

I would like to add that I don't enjoy the piling-on of the stupid one-off people, either. Not because I feel bad for someone who's probably just trying to elicit that kind of response, but because it bores me. If it also intimidates people who haven't posted yet, that also sucks. Yeah, yeah, thick skin, suck it up, jump in--that's also valid. No side is wrong here.

Hey! I'm fairly certain I also defended you in that thread, Sabrina. And political threads are ALWAYS going to do that... not just here, as ,(tcfkab) pointed out. Political views are something many people hold very dearly, and they will bite you in the face if you disagree with them. It's why I never, ever discuss politics. I walk away. Always. Even with my family.

You're right, Cindy. Fuck the lot of them if they can't be as funny as the regulars.

I can be as funny as the regulars. Honestly! Just give me a chance! I'm ready coach - put me in!

No but seriously, I'm not sure if I've mentioned this yet but I'm Canadian and our humour can be more, um, subtle at times (except for Admin, and I seriously doubt that he is Canadian. I think he just pretends to be one for our free health care and our moose steaks. His breaking into our country is, alas, a story for another day though - however it must be acknowledged that I and others (like Meaux - Hi Meaux!) willingly go along with his "Canadian" heritage as he's been featured on EE several times and it's always nice to have Canadian representation). Where was I? Oh right, bringing the funny.

My Canadian humour being too subtle for you damn non-Canadian jerks to appreciate and acknowledge is, sadly, my cross to bear.

Oh please, figgy, that Canadian humor is only 9/10ths as funny as the stuff we're coming up with in the U.S.

*Hugs SaBrina. Cops a feel.*

If you want to get noticed and initiated into the community, all you to do is ingratiate yourself. Screw sincerity.

-Zombies
-Fillion
-Whedon
-Alcohol
-Intentional misspellings
-Cusack
-Hannigan
-Sexy sex makes sex sexier
-Indie
-Clarkson
-Bunk
-Thrilby
-'squee'
-The lesser work (aka: all of it) of C. Crowe
-MurderTank
-'Godtopus'
-Complaining about Arrested Development (Hey, I loved that show, but the third season was pixie piss poor)
-'Alternative' skanks. What does that even mean? Sure, one is more talented than the other, but thinking through it, both ScarJo and K.Win are two whiny-ass, boring as fuck girls who have had a lot of fucking rhinoplasty.

-Freaks and Geeks
-Felicia Day
-I *heart* syntax
-RDJ
-David Duchovny (really? His face looks lie a 'past it' foot. When did *he* happen?)

et cetera. Who can keep pace? Consult your Pajiba Dictionary for all of the approved lingo and references. Even if you think a lot of these pre-occupations are batshit, embrace them. Slip any four of these things into your comments, and you can very easily become Emperor of the Internet.

Jimmy Cliff says, 'You Can Have it if You Really Want it'. But if we insist on leaving our computers and getting some oxygen, we do so knowing that we aren't able to fully devote ourselves to the study of the sacred texts and canonical archives.

Everybody wants to play the lead, but you know what? Screw it. Go play in the sun as we were meant to do. Be a one man party.

Kelly, I'm a MAN. An American Man!

And I don't trust your math. You must be using that bullcrap metric system, eh. Like liters or kilometers or that kinda garbage.

We don't play that shit around here, canucklehead.

canucklehead.

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at September 2, 2009 12:48 AM
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Funniest thing I've ever heard boobs called?

Canuckiebubbles.

Sweet Jebus I love this place.
Honestly, I hardly even read the reviews. Except the recent love letters about Doctor Who. Those made me happy in the pants. Since I have no time for a real life, I pretend to live here, with all of you weirdos. I was at a friends house the other day (first time out with friends in months) and I actually checked in on Pajiba from his computer, because y'all were more fun than the real people! Now, If only I could get laid around here....

I lurked for years (work computer wouldn't let me comment) and have dabbled in and out of the comments as time permits. When I finally got back online this June after a 3 month computer freeze, the FIRST place I went (after the horrific inbox of my email) was Pajiba. I made EE top 10 twice, in a row even! Seriously, I am obviously not that funny. I do have bad luck with office toilets and funny spastic pets though. So enough about the clique thing. Just jump in. And tell dirty jokes. THAT will get attention.

I was more shaken by Alabama Pink's passing than my own Grandparents deaths. All of them. Tell me that this isn't a community, go on, just try.

Seriously though, Get with the program and review Rescue Me. And do it right. LOVE IT!

No Suz, I don’t have any dirty jokes to tell and you are right about everything you’ve said. I love this place also, I love movies and talking about them among the few friends I have here at pajiba. I remember as a kid walking home from school one day and a bunch of kids thought it would be funny to push me down, anyway one kid push me so hard that I fell on my hip and cracked it. The next thing I know I’m at the hospital and the doctors are telling my parents I’ll walk with a limp for the rest of my life. After about three surgeries and a year of missing school I was able to walk again but with a slight limp because the doctors had to actually shave down part of my hip. That year of missing school I was home everyday watching movies, I’ve probably seen more movies than anyone here at pajiba. So yes Suz I can be sort of an asshole at times, but I don’t mean any harm and I’m sorry if I’ve said anything to offend you. But for anyone to feel intimidated by anyone else here is so unfortunate.

I'll echo Pistacho's echo of condensing things. With trade news specifically, I'm usually not that interested, yet it takes up a good chunk of the page and pushes off threads I like. I know the reasoning behind splitting it up was so you could be "current," but I don't come here for news.

*touches SaBrina's boob, runs away giggling*

I read your comment, Pistachio! And do what AvB says, seriously, she's a smart lady. I'd bet a good number of us come back to read the newest comments until a thread is honest-to-goodness dead.

Kelly, I'm a MAN. An American Man!

And I don't trust your math. You must be using that bullcrap metric system, eh. Like liters or kilometers or that kinda garbage.

We don't play that shit around here, canucklehead.

Aww sweetie, we Canadians realize that math can be hard but we have faith in our American brethren. We know you can do it.

Let's try a math problem together!

If Admin has 23kg of moose meat and Meaux wants to purchase 5lbs of it, how many kg's of succulent moose meat will Admin give her?

First person with the right answer gets a picture of my canuckiebubbles.

2.26796185 kg

Meaux is Mrs. Admin? Wait. No. I'm not sure that's right.

I've been lurking for a while now, and the reason I don't comment has nothing to do with inside jokes and references. I think those personal touches are what make the Pajiba experience unique.

I once knew this guy who was so damn funny and witty that it actually intimidated me to the point that I hardly ever opened my mouth when I was around him. I just basked in his awesomeness. And made sure I visited the bathroom beforehand. Just saying.

I guess what I'm also saying is that I have a mad crush on all of you.

And any question about someone's succulent meat is a trick question.

No East Coast whining about things happening 'round here whilst you are abed. I am late to the party by the time I get up in the (late) morning (Portland OR.) I train horses all afternoon and evening (12-9PM) with no Internet access, and joined this thread 24 hours late, and yet still, here we are. People keep checking back on threads they comment on.
Until they get distracted by something shiny.
Or porn.

BTW: Regarding the potential porn reviews: I think that could be awesome,it is the closest thing to action I 'm going to get, but would that affect the NSFW aspect of this site? I am self-employed now,and the horses are a pretty open minded bunch, porn-wise, but when I worked in an office I wold have been nervous about that.

And enough showing off your superior maths skills. Effin' Canuks. Go blow a beaver or something.

I feel the slight need to clarify something I said (late) last night, even though I am sure nobody cares: When I said I hardly even read the reviews, I meant that skim the ones that I am not terribly interested in, devour the ones I am, and skip straight to the melee of the comments if it looks like a shit-storm is happening in there. I think the reviews are exceptionally well written, and hats off to all who contribute.
There I feel better now.

canucklehead.

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at September 2, 2009 12:48 AM
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Funniest thing I've ever heard boobs called?

Canuckiebubbles.

Posted by: , (TCFKAB) at September 2, 2009 1:35 AM

No shit?

If I ever go to Vancouver I plan on groping some Canuckiebubbles while receiving some Canucklehead.

As usual I am really late to the comments but if anyone is still checking these...

Okay, I love movie reviews, but there is something about movie reviews that always bothers me: they are always written & published so that they can be read before you see the movie. They are spoiler conscious (even though they usually put their clumsy fingerprints all over your viewing experience anyway) so they never go in-depth about the pivotal scenes, stylistic choices, character development, etc.

The reviews on Pajiba are some of the best film criticism I've seen since Roger Ebert's stroke (feel free to borrow that for a tag line if you want) and yet they suffer from the same inherent limitation that all movie reviews do: they don't go deep enough.

And on a site like Pajiba the comment section, god love 'em, is filled with an overwhelming majority of people who haven't seen the movie yet (and who also don't want spoilers) so you don't see really meaningful discussion of the film there either. By the time I actually see Adventureland the movie is 4 months old and nobody is there to talk about it anymore.

On the other hand there are sites like imdb, where posters may have seen the movie (recently) but there is such a high stupidity to meaningful content ratio that posting or reading over there is pointless.

I guess what I am saying is, I've always longed for a higher quality of movie review that respected the reader's intelligence and assumed familiarity with the films content. Even better, one that allowed for a back-and-forth exchange of ideas. I love when Pajiba re-reviews older movies (the only problem here is that you usually go too far back, and I haven't seen the movie in question in 10 years).

So, (finally getting to the point...) My suggestion would be to keep that going or even improve it. Maybe certain movies- deserving movies, movies of higher quality or cultural significance- could get a more in-depth review & discussion shortly after they are released on DVD? Everybody will have had the chance to see it, and some people will have the added perspective of a second viewing after seeing it in the theater. Everyone can get in on the discussion in the comments; eloquents and staff writers alike digging into a worthy text and providing fresh insights and perspective.

Taking it a step further, it could become a Pajiba movie club. Announce in advance what movie you will do, give everyone a chance to get it from Netflix, provide an in-depth review to start the discussion off and then encourage more in the comments. Something like Inglourious Basterds would be perfect for this. That's the kind of movie that you want to talk about afterward, that is open for a lot of different opinions. Even the comments section discussion was starting to get interesting (but I had to hang back, I hadn't seen it yet...)

Anyway, that's my idea. Do with it what you will. Thanks for your time.

I think I'd like to hang out with Kelly's beaver.

Also, I love Yossarian's suggestion.

I think I'd like to hang out with Kelly's beaver.

Anna, that's the nicest thing anybody's ever said to me. Kisses to you!

And add me to the list of people who like Yossarian's suggestion.

I have completely lost track of this thread, but I think somewhere someone mentioned wanting profiles of regular commenters...and I just wanted to say that a lot of us are on facebook (there is a facebook pajiba group, complete with thread revealing everyone's secret identities). And most of us are friend-whores, so...y'know...come on over.

I kind of adore Yossarian's suggestion. Seriously, that'd be a fun. But I do worry about the sanity of the poor writers; seriously, reviewing a semi-recent film with a more indepth analysis. I think they suffer enough with all the Paul Blart's in the world. Maybe that'd have to be a volunteer basis job.

And as for you Canadians, like any good American, I don't trust anything living in my attic.

DID YOU ORDER THE MOOSE KNUCKLE?!?

Okay, okay, hold your water. I've ordered the moose knuckle - but don't say I didn't warn you.

C. Though I'd specify cheese curds

Ahh, elizabeth - obviously you are a girl with impeccable tastes. If my heart didn't already belong to Anna over there, I'd hand it over to you. But I have a dream that one day Anna will love poutine as much as we do.

I would do terrible, terrible things for some poutine and butter tarts right now. I haven't eaten one in years, but it's too bad you Americans can't get the Flurries with Smarties in them. One bite of that candy-coated paradise will make you question everything you once believed to be true. Take that, beliefs.

Hey Rowles. We're not finished over here. Get this shit back on the front page, yo.

I love Yossarian's idea of a film club. I think it's an absolute brainwave for something that we could do, say, every other week or so.