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The Job You Want, The Job You Dread

By Mrs. Julien | Comment Diversions | June 8, 2013 | Comments ()

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It feels like cheating, but I'm going to continue with last week's Pivot Questionnaire themed diversion. Here's where we stand -

  1. What is your favourite word? ☑
  2. What is your least favourite word?
  3. What turns you on creatively, spiritually or emotionally? Still not touching this.
  4. What turns you off? Contaminated by association with #3.
  5. What is your favourite curse word?
  6. What sound or noise do you love?. ☑
  7. What sound or noise do you hate ?
  8. What profession other than your own would you like to attempt Bingo!
  9. What profession would you not like to do? Bongo!
  10. If Heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive at the Pearly Gates?

What profession other than your own would you like to attempt?

Calling what I do for a living a "profession" seems inappropriately self-aggrandizing, but let us not be distracted by irrelevancies. Since "heiress" is not looking promising, I guess I'd like to try being a baker. Creaming butter and sugar for a living is pretty tempting. I considered it quite a bit when I moved to the U.S. and was at a loose end, but practicalities intervened. By the way, when I told the Dowager Julien I was thinking about being a baker, her first response was, "You would have to get up very early, dear." Unwavering belief in my ascendant laziness from a woman so WASP she once sent me Easter chocolate in the sleeve from a bottle of Scotch. Thanks, Mum!

At this opportune juncture, I should like to extend my personal thanks and best hugs (I'm very squishy and sincere) to Pajiba, the Cannonball Read, and Dustin Rowles for the maundering typing typaundering I get to do here every day. It creates the illusion of being a writer-type person and is the light in my begreyed cubicle existence, especially since I really am too lazy to be a writer.

[steps down of soapbox, but carefully, I don't like getting down off things]

What profession would you not like to do?

Politician. It's not just the selling of oneself, although that certainly helps, it's that I hate discussing politics or big issues. I even avoid fraught conversations here on Pajiba. I have deeply held beliefs. You have deeply held beliefs. It is extraordinarily unlikely either of us is going to change our opinions as a result of debate. Even The Daily Show is too much for me sometimes. It makes me despairing and sad.

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  • Profession I would NOT like to be a part of: anything in the criminal justice system. I can't imagine carrying a weapon, nor can I imagine the wear on the human psyche of dealing with incarceration.

    I'm in my dream field (museum education) but its not without the drawbacks.

  • dizzylucy

    Dream job - I think it would be really fun to be a set designer/decorator for TV and movies. Or a rock star.

    Dread job - anything involving meat or plumbing.

  • Captain_Tuttle

    Job(s) I want to try: literature professor; working writer (and actually support myself & my family doing it); art restorer; epidemiologist; nutritionist/personal trainer; yoga instructor; krav maga expert; stay-at-home mom.

    Job I hate, don't want, would never try (again) even if given heaps of money and jewels: the one I have now.

  • cicatricella

    Least wanted job: Poultry part packer

    Most wanted job: Head gardener

  • Bodhi

    I know this has been covered, but I want to be a professional librarian. Out of all the grunt jobs I had after graduating from college (Hey kids, a BA in Religious Studies is worth fuck all + all your student loans, plus interest), working in a library was my favorite. My mom is a professional librarian & I helped her in some of her freelance jobs (aka alphabetizing a private art library for groceries). She pretty much found me a real library job & I loved it. I will take me a while to get through grad school, but that doesn't matter. The need for librarians is (slowly) growing & school isn't going anywhere.

    Profession I would not like to do: in one word, MATH. It & I are not friends & the very thought of fractions &/or decimals makes me nearly apoplectic.

  • MyySharona

    Dream job is to have a proofreading company and just correct the world. My current job is looking more at profit and crap deals we've brokered than the quality. The very high quality work that built such a good reputation for us in the first place is going down more every month. It hurts my feelings.

    The job I would hate? Anything in retail. I've done it, I hated it, I hope I can keep avoiding it. I always try to be a really nice customer because I've dealt with so many shitty ones.

  • sweetfrancaise

    Job I have: Retail manager. Not as bad as it could be, considering I work for a bookstore and my coworkers are (mostly) awesome. That being said, I'm going back to school to be a therapist so I can get out of retail hell--it's the corporate overlords who make it miserable. I'm really excited for the new career path!

    Job I'd like to have: In and ideal world where I have more patience and knew how to sew, I'd be a costume designer for period films and I'd wear fancy clothes all the time.

    Job I'd dread: Agricultural work or dementia care.

  • space_oddity

    Dream job: Brewing beer professionally, which hopefully I will be doing within the next year.

    Job I dread: college professor. Did it for 10 years until I couldn't take it anymore. Teaching was fine, it was all the other crap, the university bureaucracy, the inflated egos jealously guarding petty domains. I'm a much happier person since I left.

  • Parker Jammstein

    Dream Job: Working Comic. Getting paid to tell jokes would be amazing, and I realize there are literally THOUSANDS of people trying to do the same thing but still, it'd be pretty cool.
    Nightmare Job: Hospice Worker. I couldn't deal with consistent tragedies like that.

  • CozMexo

    I'm currently working as an educator, but taking a leap of faith to study anthropology in the fall. If I allow myself to truly dream big, I would love to become a envoy of an international NGO or The UN.

    The idea of a job with a lot of predictability and without room for movement/challenges, if that's the right word, absolutely frightens me. So something like a being a banker?

  • Seminole

    "a job with a lot of predictability and without room for movement/challenges" - you just described 90% of the jobs at the UN.

  • CozMexo

    I'd imagine that's probably true for 90% of all jobs, actually.

    But at 20 I'm trying to cling to my idealism and allowing myself to believe in possibility, rather than letting cynicism dominate . There'll be time for that later on.

  • Nothing will make you more cynical more thoroughly than trying to do good for people. Let it dominate now and you'll save yourself time and money in the long run.

  • googergieger

    Actually on second thought, now that I have no insurance, and am stuck googling what the eff is wrong with me to try to take care of it all on my lonesome, any job that will help with that will do. Way to go, Obama! Oh no wait, didn't he try to help a bit with that? Whatever! I may or may not have strep throat over here and am debating over whether to just take some antibiotics that might just end up being for the fuck of it.

  • Rochelle

    Don't fuck around with strep. If the pain and fever came on suddenly, take it seriously. And get well soon.

  • googergieger

    Looks like it is becoming less and less likely to be strep. Fever is gone, no white blisters or whatever on the back of my mouth and such. Think it is a back up of mucus in my throat right now. Really painful to swallow. Have to work Monday, so hope I'm good to go by then.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    As a fellow non-insured, I agree with the not ignoring strep because it can lead to complications for you down the line and it is highly contagious. But also as a fellow non-insured, I say - look into the clinics at Wal-mart and CVS (Caremark). Usually for $40-60 you can get a diagnosis, and for another $4 you can get basic antibiotics with no insurance and no appointment. Sure that's not no money, but it's not much more than an insured person pays on co-pay/deductible either. (I wish it was that cheap in NYC, but alas, no).

  • googergieger

    Well one of my cousins is a lab person that checks out the blood, urine, and other things and knows about meds. Another cousin of mine is a dentists. And I live close to TJ, so between the two of them got cheap meds and they along with the rest of my closer relatives agreed, it has to be strep throat. Throat hurts like a mother effer, I see a few white blisters down my throat, a short rash is starting on the nech/chest area. Hovering around 101 fever. Have to try to handle work today, but man does my throat hurt so effin bad.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    feel better! I get strep about once a year between taking NYC subways (I touch the poles! and having lots of little nieces & nephews). It's the one illness that I actually high myself to a doctor for - anything else, even my yearly sinusitis I just suffer through and drink a lot of water.

  • googergieger

    First job I ever had was unloading trucks for a Target. Once cut my thumb about halfway off on a broken spaghetti sauce jar, held my thumb in place, walked to the back, poured alcohol over it, tapped it up really quick, finished my shift, got home and wrapped it up correctly, then went to sleep without so much as a flinch. The continued pain from this fucking sore throat, is just fucking, the fuck did I do to piss the universe/God/Xenu/whatever you want to call it off. Don't know if I can manage another 8 hours of work tomorrow with this much effin pain. Heard it takes a while for the antiobiotics to kick in, but fuck me, inject in my eye if it makes it work faster, just take this effin pain away.

  • denesteak

    More and more, I'm finding out that it is incredibly rare to have a good manager. I'm currently working in my "dream job" but my boss is... psychotic. Before this "dream job," I worked for a job that was GREAT on the resume (like, it made me uncomfortable to say where it was because people always assume I'm better/smarter than I am because I'm all about giving people low expectations) but that boss there was a hell hound.

    So my "dream job" would involve, yes doing something I want to do, but more importantly have a boss who's a good leader AND a decent human being. Apparently, this is asking for too much though.

    I would never want to do anything with numbers. It's a broad statement, but... yea. I'm not good with numbers.

  • llp

    Ooooh, I would like to be an astronaut very, very much. That is a serious dream of mine. However, I think my ideal job would be something that would allow me to read all day - so, retired, basically.

    I used to think I wanted to be a doctor, but then my youngest child had a critical medical crisis recently, and now I know I could not deal all day with grieving, frightened patients and their families. It would tear my heart out.

    Working in a mine or a slaughterhouse would also be pretty low on my list.

    My current profession is one most people would consider exciting and fun, but it is not all it is reputed to be, in my experience. I expect that is the case with a lot of careers glamorized in the media - lawyers, Secret Service, medical examiners, etc.

  • linnyloo

    I would love to play in a studio orchestra for films. Can you imagine being the orchestra that got to play the score for Jurassic Park? I love films, and I love being part of an ensemble, so that'd be pretty dang awesome.

    Job I would hate? Retail. I have endless respect for people who pay their bills by working retail, and I try my best to treat them well, but I know that I would just wither and die at that sort of work. That, or being a telemarketer. Or anything in customer service.

  • apsutter

    Oh dear god...I worked retail at a big box electronics store for 6 years and it sucks so hard. I actually really enjoyed the first 2 years or so cause my co-workers were awesome and I was really good at my job. But it just starts to eat at you because it's a demanding job and literally everyone treats you like garbage. It's all the terribleness of being a waiter but minus tips.

  • emmalita


  • different name each time

    If I could be a radio dj, before corporations took over the stations and made them all sound alike, I think I would like that.
    I could play music I wanted to play and be constantly exposed to music, and it would be like a treasure hunt, finding the great music. This probably bears little resemblence to actual dj-ing, but we're fantasizing, right? Also, couldn't be a club dj, cause I wouldn't want anyone to be able to walk up to me and tell me I suck.
    Job I don't want: farm worker/farmer/subsistance farmer/agricultural anything, basically. That's serious hard work.
    I did some dabbling in volunteering for a small CSA once, back when I was younger, and just thinking about making enough food grow, and trying to plan... you're basically weather's bitch. The rain is more or less than you thought it might be- there goes eating until the next season. I know it's not that simple, but it kinda is.
    Also job I don't want: anything involving a rendering plant. I had a friend in college who made good money at the time, working nights at a rendering plant. I have never experienced such a stench.

  • lowercase_ryan

    Want: Lead a revolution, be a detective, astronaut, or Disney on Ice.

    Not Want: Pro Golfer

  • Being a private detective would be pretty cool. Get yourself a trench coat, a fedora and a hot secretary and you're halfway there.

  • emmalita

    All of Disney, or a particular character?

  • Mrs.P

    While it is not an exactly ideal situation, I have my dream job. I am a special education teacher. My nightmare job would be a waitress or something in the service industry. I have no patience with @$$hole adults.

  • cicatricella

    as a sometime bartender or waitress - it's pretty much interchangeable, but the kids have a good excuse.

  • Someone was talking about child care and mentioned being a benevolent despot. That's what I'd like to do. I'd like to be be an idiosyncratically yet ultimately benevolent autocrat and ruler of all I survey. At least until someone annoyed me, and then all the shuvs and zuuls would know what it was to be roasted in the depths of the slor on that day, I can tell you. Either that, or I'd like to own a bar.

    What would I not like to do? Anything involving children. Children and I do not see eye to eye and not just because they are, on average, four feet shorter that I am. They're loud and sticky and uninteresting.

  • kirbyjay

    OK, my secret is out. I drive a school bus. I'm not illiterate, white trash ( stereotype here) and actually went to college, am an avid reader, and the reigning trivial pursuit champ in my set. BUT, I made the decision to be a stay at home mom when my kids were growing up ( thank God I COULD make that decision) so the "career" kinda passed me by. Turns out that bus drivers make very good money and the hours are perfect! I work for one company doing the public schools and another company doing charters, so my paycheck is on par with many professionals.

    That said....the children....

    I actually get a kick out of them. It's loud but I've learned to adapt. Out of 45 elementary kids on my bus, there are probably two that I could do without. The problem is the parents. Some parents these days seem to think that their little darling is the only one that counts on the bus and expect special treatment. If you can navigate through the parents you're all set.

    The middle school? I love them. If you treat these kids with a little respect and a lot of humor, they are yours for life. The high school? They are asleep in the morning. Most of them are very decent kids.
    Well, that's my real job. My dream job? Being a singer ( anything but country). I can't sing for shit but I would have loved to if I could.
    A job I'd hate? Being stuck in an office or an assembly line doing repetitive monkey work. Been there, done that...HATED IT!! My attendance and tardiness was appalling. At my current job I am never late and never absent.

  • There are people in the midst of world tours right now who can't sing for shit, so don't give up on the music ;)

  • kirbyjay

    No really, I can not sing, at all. But the thought of being up on stage singing my heart out and peeps in the audience rocking out, or swaying to the music, or just listening......Heaven!
    But thanks!

  • Is there anyway you could be convinced to move to Vermont? I would do just about anything to get a bus driver who is a) literate and b) doesn't loathe children. If you moved here I would shower you with thank-you notes and baked goods on a daily basis. Also I would no longer have to drive the peanuts to/from school myself every day :P

  • kirbyjay

    MMMM....baked goods? I like baked goods! I actually get a lot of homemade stuff at Christmas.
    Most of my parents like me but just recently a 5th grader's mother stormed on my bus and demanded to know why I put her daughter in an assigned seat up front. After I told her that it was actually against the law for an adult to board a school bus and she got off, I told her that her darling was throwing pencils and it wasn't her first offense. Sadly there is a spineless jellyfish in charge of transportation who always sides with irate parents and throws the drivers under the bus ( so that's where they got that saying). Girl got to sit where she wanted.

  • Maguita NYC

    Don't forget the endless poop and snot.

    *cold sweat.

  • llp

    You had me at "zuul."

  • PDamian

    If I were in any way athletic, or even just in decent physical shape, I'd want to be a circus clown. I had a friend who worked for Ringling Bros/Barnum & Bailey as a clown for years before he blew his knee out and couldn't do the stunts anymore; he always had great stories of life on the road.

    Least wanted job: anything in the medical field. I have no problem touching folks, and I'm not squeamish, but I don't think I could handle being responsible for someone else's life.

  • John W

    I always wanted to be a comic book artist ala King Kirby, Romita Sr, John and Sal Buscema, John Byrne, George Perez, etc.

    The one job I would not want is police officer. Thankless job.

  • googergieger

    Professional masturbator.
    Professional masturbator without the lotion.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    My nightmare job would be a nurse. I'm not good at taking care of others, especially when it gets messy. I'm sentimental, so I'd have trouble dealing with the pain of those ill or injured as well as their family. And Id have to take orders from doctors, all while being thanked less, paid less, respected less and believing that I know better than they do.

    My dream job would be as a regularly (*regularly* being the important part) working actor, preferably in a repertory company. Totally fine if it's regional. Totally fine if I'm not getting rich. If was making even $24K a year with health insurance, and playing 5-6 decent roles a year with people I respected and who fed me creatively, I think I'd be pretty satisfied with life.

  • space_oddity

    My mom was (is still) a nurse. As a child I would look at her nursing magazines, which always had graphic pictures of worst-case scenario bed sores or STDs. I still have nightmares. For my mom's part, she quickly discovered she didn't like most of that stuff, and moved into nursing administration, where she makes more money than I probably ever will, running a nursing department.

  • Caitlin_G

    When I was a sophomore in college I went to the Met and saw their exhibit in the Costume institute and all I could think was THIIIIS. Studying, preserving and just being around gorgeous clothing all day.

    I think it's easy to cop out and say I wouldn't want to be a sanitation worker or janitor but I think I could truly need see myself in law enforcement/ firefighting ... To put myself on the line, my families peace of mind always at unease- and just to make life and death calls all day and (especially for cops) get no respect for it would be too much for too little

  • Mrs. Julien

    I think I need to revise my dream job. That does sound amazing.

  • Bandit

    I'd love to be a photographer or camerawoman on those BBC wildlife shows, especially the ones they film in Africa. That or a mechanic.

    I'd hate to be a plumber or work in waste management or anything disgusting like that. I don't even like little kids and refuse to teach at primary school because of the snotty little niblets.

  • Feralhousecat

    Dream job: Novelist
    Nightmare Job: Politician or Plumber

  • Frenchie Tuscadero

    In 2011 landed my dream job as the marketing director at an art museum. I was in fucking heaven. Like, if you had asked me when I was five what I wanted to do, I would have said write commercials and work in an art museum. The position was great, the job description was great, the boss was a hellacious micromanager who would ask me every day what was on my to-do list, then tell me she didn't want me to do any of that (writing press releases, meeting ad deadlines, social media, working with media sponsors, setting up events...) and would then check in my office every 45 minutes to make sure I WASN'T doing anything that was on my list. If I was, she would bark and yell at me. I had/have no idea what she thought I should be doing, and if I asked, she would just shake her head and walk away. It turned from dream job to vomiting blood every morning in about 6 months. I quit after 8 months because there was just nothing more I could do. In my defense, in her three years at the museum, she went through about 30 employees in the museum's 5 positions, and this was 2009 - 2012 when people were clinging to jobs for dear life. So, the answer to both questions is probably marketing director for an art museum, because I would love to have another go with a director who knew what they were doing, but my post museum stress disorder will probably keep me from ever trying again.

  • competitivenonfiction

    I'd love to be a dog-trainer. I love working with animals, but I think working with people would be too much. Maybe I could work with the Canadian National Institute for the Blind or something similar. It'd be awesome.

    I'm gonna have to second the politician. I'm perfectly happy being a behind the scenes working for something I believe in. Plus, I was a body paint model for a little while in University (we won a lot of contests and the artist let me take home half the prize money), and that would just be a whole thing I wouldn't want to go deal with publicly.


    Did you know that all guide dogs in Canada are supplied by Canada Guide Dogs which is a charitable organization? I honestly did not know this until I saw a segment with them on the Mercer Report. I assumed that it was a part of our healthcare scheme. It would be a great job though, I know for a fact that it is someone's job to take care of the puppies. Their JOB is to play with puppies all day.

  • competitivenonfiction

    If I wasn't already working in my #1 field of choice, I'd be all over this. I've even researched the training school I'd go to. Off to daydream...

    Also, now half my "to-donate" budget is going to have to be earmarked for Canada Guide Dogs.

  • emmalita

    I've been a baker and personal chef. They are both my dream jobs and my nightmares. If I go there again I want a partner, more employees, and a different set up. Creaming butter and sugar together is wonderful, but being a professional baker is enormously hard work with a tiny profit margin. I'd like to do something that involves more teaching how to cook and bake.

    No, my real nightmare job is being in an office again dealing with staff meetings and office politics.

  • Mrs. Julien

    I could never cut it as a baker anyway. I can make things taste good, but I lack the manual dexterity to make them look really pretty.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I've often thought it would be nice to open a cafe/coffee shop, but the problem for me is, as your mater pointed out, the very early hours.

  • emmalita

    I am similarly afflicted, but I found ways around it. A) call things "artisan" or "rustic," B) use fresh flowers to decorate (make sure they aren't toxic first), C) hire people who can, and D) practice, practice, practice.

  • As a SAHM I look back on the halcyon days of employment as "when we had money" so the thought of any career seems pretty rosy. Yes I'm blocking all the drudgery, upward management, pointless meetings, and politics. And trust me, if you spent your days saying things like, "Maybe we should use the potty before you pee on the couch again" you would probably have the same feelings about "work."

    But if I'm thinking about "career fantasy camp", I've always had an odd fascination with being a contestant on Surivior. Admittedly I would be the first person voted off the island because I turn into a harpy when not sleeping so one night of restlessly lying about in a lean-to and my tribemates would be keen to see me gone. But the rest of it - physical challenges, fishing, making fire - all seems pretty cool. Yes I'm taking a broad definition of career. But it involves work and potential payment so it counts.

    I would hate to be a teacher. Spending 6 hours in a too small room filled with too many little people and trying to keep their attention while we count to 20 for the 5,000th time would make me crazypants. Teachers make no money, are surrounded by kids carrying the plague, have too many bosses, and are compressed into this rigidly pointless structure of unceasing evaluation and testing. I'm not trying to make some political statement about no child left behind or how teachers are unsung heroes (although I could). I'm just literally saying that I would loathe this profession.

  • Bodhi

    Yes, this. I work 3 days a week at a hotel just to get out of the house. I HATE having to be there at 7am, but the coffee & the internet > diapers & toddler whining, even if I do have to put on a bra.

  • My nightmare job: anything to do with other people's children. No matter how many fences I put up, security guards I hire, tasers I keep handy, one of them will inevitably end drowning themselves in a nearby pond. It would be a unsolvable dilemma of enforcing strong boundaries and not ruining their childhood; put them on leads and they will throttle themselves, let them run free and, hey-ho, "IDIOT CHILD SUPERVISOR GUILTY OF NEGLECT, MANSLAUGHTER" emblazoned on local tabloids. I know it's irrational. I know it's over-the-top. I know I'm never considering it. Ever.

  • emmalita

    Not so irrational. I was a nanny in law school. Early in my nanny/law student career, I had the horrible realization one evening when my charge and I were at a playground that I WAS THE RESPONSIBLE ADULT. I couldn't believe anyone would be so stupid as to put me in charge. Bodies of water and running in front of cars became my greatest fears. I never allowed the kids near water, unless another adult was with me. I was a benevolent but strict dictator, and nobody died. The family and kids even still like me.

  • Fabius_Maximus

    Politician would also be a nightmare for me. I studied political science, so I know what that job entails: long hours and very little positive feedback.

  • Maguita NYC

    Most of my friends in College (version 1.0) went into political science, yet ended-up working for banks.


  • Fabius_Maximus

    It would be easier if I'd be qualified to do that.

  • Maguita NYC

    It was over a decade ago, back when a Bachelor's degree could get you almost any job, whether qualified or not. Most had to go for extra credit while still able to forge forward at the same time in that sector.

  • Fabius_Maximus

    It's different here. My degree is the equivalent of someone getting a bachelor and then finishing law school. One of my professors back in my 1st semester at uni told us: "Political scientists are qualified to do everything, but good for nothing."


    My dream job (and I'm obviously dreaming big here) would to be a professional ballet dancer. Not only do I wish I could dance as well as they do, but I really admire their dedication. They spend their lives pushing their bodies to their limits for very low pay and, often, very little respect from trainers, choreographers, administrators, etc. all because they love ballet so much. I guess I just wish that I loved something that much; so much that I wouldn't mind those kind of sacrifices.

    As for a job I dread, it would be my worst nightmare having to work for/in the meat industry. Being surrounded by so much death must wreak havoc on your mental health. I know that I couldn't deal with it. In fact, I would probably be fired/jailed for trying set all the animals in line for the abattoir free.

  • e jerry powell

    And their bodies generally give out before they turn thirty-five; sooner if they're Balanchine dancers, who often need at least one hip replaced before they're thirty.

    You gotta love dance to deal with that.


    Ugh I am not a fan of the Balanchine method. It's so hard on your joints and it's just not pretty. The Vaganova method the Russians use is even worse, it's all extreme precision and ridiculous over-extensions and no musicality. Not my cup of tea.

  • apsutter

    Ugh I hate the Russian method and what's worse is having people argue day in and out that's it's superior. The only people who actually prefer it are Russians. All I see is ridiculous over-extensions and cold movements. No acting or emotions at all.

  • e jerry powell

    Well, the Russians and PiggyPeggy Willis Aarnio. I spent far too much time around Hogwoman because my last ex was one of her dancers a bajillion years ago.

  • Maguita NYC

    A bit boring, but would really satisfy me on the short-term side of career hopes if I finally become a full fledged Accounting Manager. Yes I know: What is wrong with me?

    You see, my worst fear is going back to being an Admin. Working for someone else's goals. Making someone else look better. Hovering over someone else so they make their annually outrageous bonuses. As if at that level they need even more money.

    I've sacrificed so far 14 months of my life; Quitting work, living on an extremely (very extreme!) tight budget - I can't remember the last time I went for a haircut... It sounds superficial, but it's still painful - Working the odd office job now and then to make ends meet, and going to College. Full time $$. After all the sacrifices, come September at the end of the program, my biggest fear is not finding the appropriate job position, and having to go back at being someone else's Assistant.

    And I say this with so much abhorrence because I understand, heck I've lived through the many sacrifices all underpaid and unrecognized Admins make. My worst nightmare.

  • Peeg

    Hey, the wife needs a new Cayenne and Cortnee needs a new saddle for her riding classes.

  • Maguita NYC

    Also, my dream job would be to become a Lannister.

    For once in my life, I'd like to know what if feels like to act the ultimate asshole, and actually get away with it!

  • It's pretty sweet, just so you know. Getting away with being an asshole, that is. I don't know what it's like to be a Lannister, I don't have any sisters. Although I did kiss a cousin once.

  • meh

    So much this. I am back in school trying to escape the last 10 years as an admin. It's a hellish job that seems like it should be gravy. And good luck trying to advance beyond an assistant position.

    It haunts you.

  • Maguita NYC

    You get stuck in kind of a vicious circle being an admin: Know too much about office management and big organizations, but not qualified enough in paper form to actually get the position of an office manager. It is also hard to get away from.

    Until you realize you've become a masochist in very bad need of self-esteem restructuring. Good luck in your studies and wishing you the same in finding a job, far away from the haunting past.

  • Emperor Cupcake

    For several years after graduation library school (pro tip: do not get a master's in library science), I worked in the for-profit education sector. Their entire business model is built on finding the most impoverished people and selling them the dream of a grossly inflated price, taken out as student loans, and then almost certainly defaulted on later. It's basically sub-prime education, and I hated having to spout corporate bullshit while watching the students I grew to care about shovel themselves into a financial hole.

    So, yeah. It's a broad category, but I won't work a job that makes me feel morally bankrupt.

  • Mitchell Hundred

    I'm partway through an MLIS program right now...

  • Emperor Cupcake

    Then it's not too late to run!

  • PDamian

    Okay then, here's the positive response: I'm a college professor, but I got my start in academia as a reference librarian -- and I *loved* it. Paid off my loans, too. So here are things to keep in mind: 1) If you're a public or academic librarian, your salary will depend largely on the state in which you're employed. MN, IA, MA pay well; anything in the Deep South will pay poverty wages; all other states differ. Public universities almost always pay better than privates. 2) There are more kinds of librarianship than public or private, and some pay EXTREMELY well. Corporate librarians can make good salaries and bonuses. One of the most affluent librarians I know works for a pharmaceutical company; he's paid a shitload, but he also has an MS in chem. If money's not an issue, consider all the other kinds of librarianship: military librarianship (don't have to join, and you get to travel), museum librarianship, cruise ship librarianship (seriously!), etc.

  • Bodhi

    My mother has been a librarian for 40 years & is currently the corporate librarian for a HUGE semi-private power company. She doesn't make a *ton* of money, but she makes enough for her & my dad is a state employee, so she when she retires she will have a decent income & can freelance (yes there are freelance librarians)

  • Mitchell Hundred

    Thanks! I'm actually Canadian (although a lot of this stuff probably translates across borders).

  • Michelle Belden

    I mean seriously, why in the world do you want to throw money down the toilet so that you can work in a job that requires you to be an educator AND computer programmer yet pays you like a secretary? (And if you're female, forget ever going to a bar again. "Oh you're a librarian, you must want to have the sex with me!" OR "Oh you're a librarian, isn't your profession obsolete?" will be the ONLY two things you hear.) That said, it only took me six years (and three jobs in three states) to finally make more in a year than I owe on my student loans. So I guess there's that.

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