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An Afternoon Comment Diversion / Dustin Rowles

Comment Diversions | September 17, 2008 | Comments (161)


Today’s comment diversion is less a comment-grab than a conversation starter.

Let’s talk scents.

I have always been of the mind that cologne is something that only sleazy used-car salesmen wear, but when I was out in L.A. last month, I noticed there were a lot of men who wore it. It did not offend my olfactory senses. So, whaddya think: Cologne or no cologne on men. Likewise, perfume or no perfume on women? I have a horrible, horrible weakness for that Wal-Mart brand of perfume that my girlfriends used to wear in high school. Exclamation? Maybe it was Red Door? I dunno. Whatever it was always reminds me of making out in the back row of a movie theater. I’m such white trash.

And while we’re on the topic, here’s another conversation piece: How often do you shave? Me: Once a week. On Thursdays. It’s superstition.


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Comments

No cologne for men. Way too strong...

On women, I like it, but just a hint. If you can smell it from 3 feet away, it's too much. You only be able to catch a whiff when you are very close.

Shaving: twice a week, but when I worked full time, it was almost every day, unfortunately.

Posted by: Chase at September 17, 2008 3:09 PM

i dont like cologne on myself, so i cant really comment there, and i dont mind it per say on chicks as long as its not overpowering. but either way, i dont care too much as long as the chicks cute and doesn't smell bad i dont care.
i shave two or three times a month, depending on if im feeling particularly burly.

Posted by: johnnyrocket at September 17, 2008 3:12 PM

I have to say, if I can smell you coming, be it cologne, perfume, or body odor, or if I can trace your steps through a building by scent alone, you're doing it wrong.

But it's really nice to give a hug and be greeted by some subtle and pleasant scent. On a man or a woman.

Posted by: Tyburn Blossom at September 17, 2008 3:13 PM

Dustin, you should know better than to not specify where we shave.

You're makin' it too easy

Posted by: TMax at September 17, 2008 3:14 PM

Aqua Velva baby and lots of it, on me.
Yeah, you KNOW you love it, ho's.

My females gotta rock the Chanel No.5

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 17, 2008 3:14 PM

No perfume/cologne!

A. It reminds me of those old women who seem to naturally produce a cloud of the stuff. Why do these people think it's a good idea to ride the subway?!

B. Inevitably, you know it's going to get on the other person, which is made worse by the fact that cologne and perfume have distinctively different scents. So while you might be able to rock Red Delicious, it's just going to make the rest of my day awkward.

When I start accidentally eating my beard, that's when it's time to shave. Same goes for haircuts.

Posted by: Macafee at September 17, 2008 3:14 PM

I prefer no cologne on men. Clean skin smells better than any cologne.

And god help me if I don't want to strangle these retarded juveniles with their pube 'staches and their Axe body spray. It's not a substitute for a shower, assholes, and despite the implied promises of the commercials, it does NOT entice women to fuck you stupid in public settings.

Bow-chicka-bow-FUCK YOU SMELLY KIDS AT THE ARCADE I JUST WANT TO PLAY MORTAL KOMBAT LIKE GOD INTENDED NOT SMELL YOUR ASS ALL THE WAY OVER THERE ON DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION!

Posted by: Mella at September 17, 2008 3:15 PM

I once made out with a girl, but there was something just... off. I later realized she had the same Avon brand of stink that my grandmother wore. That, and I was still trying to forget about that time I slept with my grandmother...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at September 17, 2008 3:15 PM

My friend and I both developed a crush in high school on one of our friends due almost entirely on the fact that when he walked by us in Chemistry class we could smell his Old Spice deodorant. I'd say in general, I'm not inclined one way or another providing that if cologne is being worn it's not over-powering, or simply an attempt to mask b.o. Because the only thing worse than b.o. is b.o. mixed with cologne.
And women -well I would appreciate it if they didn't drench themselves in it so thoroughly that I can actually taste it when entering an elevator/bathroom stall etc. that they've just vacated. Disgusting.
I myself am a Marc Jacobs wearer.

Posted by: loganlikesmaryanne at September 17, 2008 3:15 PM

For me, it depends on the cologne. I love cologne on men, but even a great scent will stink when a guy drowns himself in it. My father had this horrible cologne called Joop! (Yes, that includes the exclamation point.) It smelled like dead flowers and musk, and when his bottle broke in the closet, our house smelled like it for weeks.

On women, not really but that's because women constantly wear some type of scented stuff already. There's lotions, body wash, body splash, you name it.

Love: Men - Calvin Klein's "Lord Byron", Davidoff Cool Water, Drakkar (cheap, but not bad)
Women - Chanel #5, Donna Karan's Cashmere Mist, Michael Kors

Hate: Joop!, Love's Baby Soft (this should only be worn by high school girls, after that, it's just weird) Victoria' Secret Vanilla (that shit gave me a headache)

Posted by: Brie at September 17, 2008 3:19 PM

I don't run into a lot of people wearing scents these days. The main exception is active seniors. Yes, I see a lot of seniors in my line of work. Anyway, I really like when the older folks wear it, because they know how to do it! Strong enough only that you can smell it at a nice level when you sit beside them. I also have a soft spot for Old Spice. Personally I find it almost impossible to wear perfume because it lasts about two hours and by noon there's no trace left. I guess I just have cheap perfume.

Posted by: sunset&camden at September 17, 2008 3:20 PM

No cologne, no perfume on anybody.

This stuff was invented back when people thought bathing was bad for you to cover the stench. I want to smell clean skin.

Someone did a study once, and found that the "perfume" that men responded to the most favorably was actually vanilla extract.

Posted by: BWeaves at September 17, 2008 3:21 PM

Cheesy as it may sound, I love whatever the hell it is that Mrs. TK wears. Of course, it may just be because it's on her. I have cologne, I think I wear it (sparingly) four times a year.

And I shave twice per week.

Posted by: TK at September 17, 2008 3:22 PM

no weird chemical smells. seriously. it's gross. I don't mind a little BO, especially on my Dude - he smells delicious.

My mom's perfume isn't overwhelming, but when I hug her goodbye, I can smell her for a few hours afterwards. This explains why I was so fucking paranoid in High School and always thought she knew when I misbehaved.

Posted by: Estelle at September 17, 2008 3:22 PM

I wear perfume as often as I shave...which is occasionally.

Posted by: anikitty at September 17, 2008 3:23 PM

Holy CRAP Dustin, Exclamation! I used to wear that as a young lass. That and Love's Baby Soft in Rain Scent.

I love a guy's natural scent, that mix of sweat and clothes, cigarettes, whatever. I don't mind cologne, but it has to be in very small quantities. My best friend wears Nautica and he always smells awesome-to the point where my good friend Nene shoves her face in his neck every time they hang out.

I wear green tea body spray daily and perfume if going out, and despite being 28 I still do the adolescent "spritz the air and walk into it" maneuver. Hee. And I shave my legs every day no matter what. I despise the feel of stubble.

Posted by: Julie at September 17, 2008 3:24 PM

Tie the two together. Don't go with cologne, but a good aftershave. Still keep it minimal. Victoria's Secret actually a good men's scent or two.

Shaving happens after every shower so...fortnightly?

Posted by: branded at September 17, 2008 3:24 PM

Personally I believe in only one scent at a time. That means you don't have a scented shampoo, body wash, lotion, and perfume all competing. You end up smelling like a fruit stand at the end of a hot summer day. Nor does it work when you "coordinate" the scents. Then it is way way way overwhelming. (And trust me I've know women who do both.) Personally I stick with neutrals for shampoo/bodywash/lotion and then a teeny splash of Oui by Lancome (which is sadly no longer sold in the US and must be ebayed). If I'm feeling like a need some up close time with a fella, then a scented body wash and no perfume (subtler scent, spread out).

On guys I like an occasional hint of an aftershave, just not old spice as that is what my dad wears. The key word is a "hint".

And randomly unrelated, my favorite scents are citruses. Every year at Christmas my parents (er Santa) would put an orange in our stocking. By the time we opened them, they scent of orange would have spread through everything. Oranges make me feel that happy little kid on Christmas morning feeling. They (the all knowing all pervasive they) say that scent is the most powerful memory trigger, and thus I've always been drawn to orange-y scents.

Posted by: libraryliz at September 17, 2008 3:24 PM

"...I love whatever the hell it is that Mrs. TK wears..."

Awwwwww, cue in that *WHIPPED* sound effect Phil.


Phil is my sound man btw.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 17, 2008 3:25 PM

I'm gonna kill you and your lover Phil.

Posted by: TK at September 17, 2008 3:26 PM

Yes, cologne on men. Ditto Mella: but not that Axe crap. That's the smell of douchebag.

Yes, cologne on women. I'm in the middle of a bottle of Coco Mademoiselle. Next I'm buying another bottle of DKNY Be Delicious. It smells fruity without being like a middle schooler.

Posted by: shelleyh at September 17, 2008 3:26 PM

Um... I shave twice a week? I kind of hate to, so I just shave as soon as it gets too unbearable to manage. So, twiceish a week I suppose.

I've never been a huge fan of cologne, but perfume in minor amounts is fine.

Posted by: whatBENwatches at September 17, 2008 3:27 PM

Someone did a study once, and found that the "perfume" that men responded to the most favorably was actually vanilla extract.

I've read that as well, which astounds me because every guy I know HATES that smell. I don't want to smell like a fucking cupcake unless I'm actually going to be dessert.

Posted by: Julie at September 17, 2008 3:28 PM

Whoosh-Crack! *Solemn Nod*

Posted by: Phil at September 17, 2008 3:29 PM

I'm gonna kill you and your lover Phil.

Posted by: TK at September 17, 2008 3:26 PM

---------------------------------------------

Gee I'm quaking in my flip-flops, when does Mrs. T let you out again...cue it again Phil:

*WHIPPED* *WHIPPED* WHIPPED*

hahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 17, 2008 3:29 PM

Men: No cologne most of the time. Once in a blue moon I smell something lovely on a man, but more often than not I prefer the natural man smell.

Me: Rarely, Opium or Dune.

And I shave my legs every day no matter what. I despise the feel of stubble.

Me too Julie. I thought I was the only freak.

Posted by: Cindy at September 17, 2008 3:29 PM

Cologne is far too expensive to justify wearing it regularly. This is especially true because I refuse to be one of those men who bathes in it. I hate that shit. You don't smell good, douchebag. You smell like Michael Bay's taint.

Much like TK, I love the scents that his...uh, I mean my...wife wears. The fact that they're me-approved prior to adoption has a lot to do with that, I'm sure. Again, though, too much is not good. They're not pheromones, ladies, and we don't need to smell you through walls. Smelling pretty is one thing; if I can smell you before I lean in for a hug, you've failed.

I shave my face every other day. I'd only go every day if forced, because I have sensitive face and neck skin and those 5-10 minutes in the morning can be a bitch. Other shaving is every 2-3 weeks.

Posted by: Sean at September 17, 2008 3:30 PM

ok, i'm going to get beat up for this...but that damned jennifer lopez pefume "glo" is really quite lovely. if you only use a small amount, it's good stuff and i get more compliments then when i wear any other perfume. i've smelled it on other lady-folks and it's good!

the indie music/movie snob in me hates that i like it....can't wes anderson make a perfume i can wear without shame? or how about a will oldham body wash? i bet the coen brothers could mass market something palatable...

also, the demeter line of fragrances are wild & wacky stuff. "fizzy ginger ale" was my fav. they also make: crayon, gin & tonic, dirt, play-doh, paperback, earl grey tea, tomato and all kinds of weird scents.

Posted by: glittergirl at September 17, 2008 3:32 PM

branded made me think of something--I'd really like to know how often the gentlemen here shower. Can we add that as an item to answer? I personally am mortified by the lack of hygeine these days.
Perfume and cologne-sparingly.
Shave weekly, if not more.

Posted by: AmyK at September 17, 2008 3:33 PM

No cologne on men. Period. Faint, subtle perfume on women is nice if it compliments them, especially if (a) it gets in their hair and (b) it's mixed with their own specific scent.

My favorite is also a sentimental cheapey -- "Angel Fire" -- because my high school girlfriend wore it, including the first time I got my schwerve on. (With a girl!) I will occasionally get a whiff of that or something very close, and it's like the floor dropping out from under me -- that wind-knocked-out feeling of powerful nostalgia.

I should shave daily for my job, but I have fine, reddish-blond whiskers that can (and do) hide for a day or two. Never on weekends.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at September 17, 2008 3:34 PM

Hubby Marv and I only really wear colognes when we have special events to go to. Weddings and such. Otherwise it takes that 'specialness' out of wearing a fancy-dancy cologne. Plus it lasts a hell of a lot longer that way. Hah.

I used to wear Tommy Girl when I was in my late teens, but now that I'm in my twenties I've moved on to Givenchy Ange or Démon. The oriental florals are sweet without being cloying and incense-y. Marv wears CK Man. It works well for him. *smirk*

Posted by: Goldie at September 17, 2008 3:34 PM

I shave every day, and dislike strong scents. Shaving cream of choice is whatever softens the naturally-occuring barbed wire that is my beard, but I've been known to apply just a bit of Paul Sebastiani if I'm attending something formal where the nabobs dislike my natural pheromones.

Posted by: The Wanderer at September 17, 2008 3:34 PM

Cologne? Nah, doesn't do it for me. Though this diversion reminded me of a pleasant recent experience--when I was leaving for my stint in Labrador last week, I put on my husband's deodorant just before heading out the door (mine was deeply packed). Later that night in bed, I kept catching whiffs of it and had warm fuzzy snuggly thoughts of him. [/nauseatingness]

Perfume? I like it, though I seldom think to put it on. When I do, I definitely go light on it.
I especially like old-fashioned flowery stuff like lavender and rose. Too grandmother-ish? Maybe, but I just find them calming and lovely.

Shaving? More frequently in the summer than the winter, to be sure, but I try to keep 'em smooth. I've been experimenting with at-home waxing lately. Too awkward to do on the entire leg, but around those certain special bits, it provides a lovely finish.

Posted by: meaux at September 17, 2008 3:34 PM

Catching a nice whiff is always nice. But I have to agree with Julie on the vanilla thing. I suppose I've never tested it but it doesn't exactly sound great.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at September 17, 2008 3:34 PM

glittergirl:

Holy shit, Play-doh fragrances? Paperback? That is awesome. Old books are the best! I love going to Half Price Books and just opening books and smelling them.

Posted by: shelleyh at September 17, 2008 3:36 PM

ooh shelleyh, DKNY be delicious is my scent too.

I kind of dig the scent of my bf's deodorant. but I bought him some polo, the one in the blue bottle, for xmas last year (it came with a free duffle bag) and he wears it now and then if we're going somewhere fancy.

Posted by: ab at September 17, 2008 3:36 PM

I'll echo what a few others have said in so many words: nothing beats pheromones! Man, if they could only bottom that and spray it on the right guy, I'd be attracted to someone other than a loser. Ahem.

Posted by: staylor at September 17, 2008 3:36 PM

AmyK, I shower twice a day. Once to wake me up, the second after I exercise. (Or sexercise! *throws up high-five, is left hanging, slowly lowers it)

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at September 17, 2008 3:38 PM

heehee [damn me for not previewing!] what a freudian slip by saying 'bottom that'! Really, I meant 'bottle that'. Whoa, nelly.

Posted by: staylor at September 17, 2008 3:38 PM

Someone did a study once, and found that the "perfume" that men responded to the most favorably was actually vanilla extract.

I've read that as well, which astounds me because every guy I know HATES that smell. I don't want to smell like a fucking cupcake unless I'm actually going to be dessert.

Julie, you would hate Jessica Simpson's line of "products". Not only do they all smell like desserts, but they're edible. Why doesn't that surprise me?

As for shaving, once a week.

Posted by: Brie at September 17, 2008 3:39 PM

Eww, I've heard about that line Brie. They probably taste like buttercream and hopelessness.

Posted by: Julie at September 17, 2008 3:44 PM

I used to shave anywhere from 2 - 6 faces a day, and I remember Sheriff Taylor liking a dash of my special witch hazel once in awhile.

Then I had my stroke and just sat in one of the chairs spouting gibberish while Gomer read comic books all the time.

But since I'm dead now I don't place shaving high on my priority list anymore.

Posted by: Floyd the Barber at September 17, 2008 3:44 PM

Oh good grief, Skittimus, I just read your "grandmother" comment after posting my own and nearly laughed out loud.

I'd just like to clarify that my old-fashioned scent choices do not come from Avon (nor do they stink).

Posted by: meaux at September 17, 2008 3:46 PM

No cologne-- Aftershave or natural for men.
No perfume-- scented lotion for women.

Both are much more subtle.

Shaving-- +/- 3x per week depending on how much action is hapnin. ;-)

Posted by: wsapnin at September 17, 2008 3:46 PM

I hate the smell of Aramis. It's what my ex started wearing to cover up the whiskey sweat. Nasty, nasty, nasty.

I wear either Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab's Pele, or Marc Jacobs Amber.

But I am destined to be one of those old lady stink factories, I have to admit. I try to use both judiciously, but I guess I acclimate to the scent really quickly and can't tell when I'm a walking toxic cloud. So I always make my daughter do a perfume check before I leave the house. Blame her if I'm asphyxiating you on an elevator.

Posted by: Wednesday at September 17, 2008 3:47 PM

Ok, I'm allowing myself a very short break from paper-grading, so just a quick comment, and I'll have to come back and catch-up with all of your answers later.

Cologne on men is fine as long as it's not terribly strong. Just a vague hint is good. As with all things, it, of course, also depends on the scent of the cologne itself.

Ditto for women and perfume. Me, I'm partial to citrus, "green" scents, lavender, and sandalwood.

As for shaving, twice a week. But not my legs--someone's gotta be fulfilling the stereotype of hairy-legged feminist. Might as well be me. These babies have never seen a razor.

Posted by: tamatha at September 17, 2008 3:48 PM

I wear perfume daily, but only a little little bit. Like, one spritz from arm's length away. Also, I like softer scents like J'Adore, Acqua di Gio, and Cashmere Mist, which don't really do that sickeningly strong thing to begin with. I also do not like tasting perfume in the elevator or bathroom, especially when I'm about to eat lunch. Also, I went through a little phase in high school where I liked to smell like a boy, so I would wear some men's cologne that was popular back in the day, I think it was Pierre Cardin.

Mr. vB wears cheap ass drugstore cologne because he sweats like a pig and refuses to wear deodorant. But, I think he smells good, so whatev. I would love to find a good scent for him, but I have no idea what smells good.

As for shaving, I have very sensitive skin so I can't do it more than twice a week. The Mr. has to shave every day for work, unless he's growing it in. He likes to do funny goatees or a soul patch with a long moustache, kind of Lemmy-esque (but way better looking). He can't really do the full beard thing, 'cause it grows in kind of uneven and funny on his face. As far as I know, he doesn't shave anywhere else.

sunset&camden, some people just burn off perfume really fast. I think it has something to do with your metabolism? or something? I read that somewhere once.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at September 17, 2008 3:48 PM

I have no sense of smell, so this afternoon diversion is useless to me.

As for shaving, assuming we're talking a standard 5 day work week, three times a week: Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

Posted by: ajax19 at September 17, 2008 3:51 PM

I shave 2-3 times a week, generally. My face can get irritated if it's more frequently. My beard's really spread out and I can get extremely close if I shave against the grain, totally smooth and soft, but my face gets much, much angrier at that than it used to.

Is it wrong that I like to buy powder scented deodorant? Odd story: I'd fallen in love with this girl who smelled like baby powder most of the time. With that particular stick of Ban I had, so did I! Yes, I'd occasionally smell my Ban solid and have my flames of love fanned.

Obsession and Bijan. They're both pretty rare these days. When Bijan hits the air I start looking around, sniffing. Just love it. An old girlfriend had this pretty sharp smelling perfume called Ici apparently, if I was reading the little bottle right, that she'd put on fairly often. Not bad but it's a glaring kind of scent, if you will, but I guess she turned me on and thus so did the smell of her (and still does). In addition to eidetic memory I can call up scents in my brain pretty well so thanks a lot, now I'm getting all uselessly excited.

Posted by: Jay at September 17, 2008 3:52 PM

who are you girly-men only shaving a couple of times a week? Hell, I shave more than that.

mr.wsapnin must be extra testeronified--he shaves daily and could use a touch up after work sometimes. He can go from baby's butt to full beard in 10 days.

I think you guys need to get on the juice.

Posted by: wsapnin at September 17, 2008 3:53 PM

Men: Jean Paul Gaultier (the bottle that is shaped like a torso) makes me melt. Yum.

Women: I like Michael Kors (good taste, Brie!) and Clinique Simply.

Shaving: Never. Everything gets waxed about once a month. I've been doing this for about 2 years now, and it's still as painful (and awkward) as it was the first time. I apparently love to torture myself.

Jessica Simpson: It would make sense that she would smell like a cupcake. She has the mentality of a giggly middle-school girl, and that's the kind of shit they wear.

Posted by: tt_marie at September 17, 2008 3:54 PM

mr.wsapnin must be extra testeronified--.... He can go from baby's butt to full beard in 10 days.

I think you guys need to get on the juice.

Posted by: wsapnin at September 17, 2008 3:53 PM

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Eh,we can't ALL be laboratory escaped super beard freaks, honey.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 17, 2008 3:57 PM

And can I just say --that pic of Dexter up there is just making me weak in the knees. I just caught myself staring at it for about 30 seconds.

Whooo.... momma needs a cold drink.

Posted by: wsapnin at September 17, 2008 3:58 PM

Actually, never been big on Cologne, since most guys can't seem to tell the difference between a spritz and a Flashdance finisher. Au naturelle works much better, thank you very much.

Posted by: Jeremy at September 17, 2008 3:58 PM

Eh,we can't ALL be laboratory escaped super beard freaks, honey.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 17, 2008 3:57 PM

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As a matter of fact, his dad does bear a slight resemblence to JoJo the Dogface Boy.

Posted by: wsapnin at September 17, 2008 4:02 PM

wsapnin, my hubby must be of similar stock to your Mr. However, he just rolls with it and sports the full beard, which he trims whenever the mustache hairs start to get in the way of eating (much like Macafee up there--are you also Scottish, by any chance?).

Posted by: meaux at September 17, 2008 4:03 PM

Jay - my mom used to wear Obsession lotion (came in a pretty glass jar) and it smelled so good I used to want to scoop it out of the jar and eat it. Haven't smelled that in a long time.

Posted by: tt_marie at September 17, 2008 4:04 PM

(stupid backwards tags)

Posted by: meaux at September 17, 2008 4:05 PM

meaux, that's exactly why I love J'Adore... it's rose-y, but not grandma-y.

They probably taste like buttercream and hopelessness.

Julie, you are killing me today! I just laughed so hard at this I farted a little.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at September 17, 2008 4:06 PM

Cologne is a very tricky thing for men. Some smell amazing and make me want to jump their bones. Others make me gag and fan my hand in front of my face in hope that they'll get the hint. But a little cologne can be unbelievably sexy. My absolute favorite is CK One. It makes me weak in the knees, I swear. It's also the cologne my first crush used to wear, so it brings back some memories. Mmm.

I shave my legs about once a week, but only because we have summer weather 10 months of the year in this country, and just the thought of full-length pants is painful. I lived in upstate New York for 4 years though, and back then I wouldn't shave all winter. Icky, but who wants to shave when it's -27F outside?

Posted by: figgylicious at September 17, 2008 4:07 PM

(I can't believe this was posted on 10 minutes ago and I'm this far down the comments)

Cologne and perfume: When it works, it really works. When it doesn't, you want to push the person off a cliff.

I think it helps when it's a good scent only every once in awhile. Then you notice it more. Bonus points if it's the stuff worn in the happy can't-keep-hands-off-each-other beginning of the relationship.

And it is probably embarrassing to admit, but the perfume I like most comes from Mary Kay. (The shame!)

But my husband has some Armani stuff that's quite nice. And if I were actually buying my own perfume and not relying on the gift from my MK lady aunt, I'd probably buy some of the DKNY stuff.

Posted by: Sara at September 17, 2008 4:11 PM

Ooh, I'll have to check that out, AvB. By the way, does everyone have to make a conscious effort not to call you "AvP," or is it just me?? *heehee*

My current go-to is Rose The (as in French for "rose tea") from Fruits & Passion. The tea notes keep it from being too-too flowery.

Posted by: meaux at September 17, 2008 4:12 PM

Thank you, tt_marie. I used to wear Clinique Happy, but it started to smell like a rancid orange, so I stopped.

I'm not so much bothered by the smell of J.Simp's perfume, but the edible factor. That's like something you give to children to keep them from eating play-doh, or carpet lint.

Then again, this is Jessica. Maybe she kept trying to lick the perfume while they were making it and since they couldn't find anything shiny to distract her, the creators made the perfume line edible.

Posted by: Brie at September 17, 2008 4:13 PM

Showering should be an everyday occurrence you dirty hippies. Shaving maybe every other weekday. My razor takes the weekend off for Shabbat, which always seem odd considering that I'm Presbyterian.

To those who shower but don't wear deodorant because they claim that they naturally don't smell:
You do smell. It doesn't naturally go away. Your nose just becomes more immune to your stench. It doesn't work for Eastern Europeans so why should you be any different?

Posted by: branded at September 17, 2008 4:15 PM

Ewwww, so very true Branded, you nailed it right on its filthy stinking head.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 17, 2008 4:17 PM

I have nothing against people smelling nice, but 1/2 the people in my family are debilitated by allergies to fragrances. My Mother has passed out in symphony concerts and on airplanes several times from people's perfumes, and my sister in law's father refuses to leave his mountain home in Colorado because he s made so ill by perfumes. I myself get an instant headache from many fragrances. I think less is more, for sure, and I don't assume people want me to smell of anything other than me. And my shampoo.

There is something I have been dying to know though:

Ladies, am I the only one who goes absolutely weak in the knees from the scent that some men seem to emit naturally? Not necessarily attractive men, not even REMOTELY attractive men sometimes. It must be pheromones or something, but Yowza, if they could bottle that....

Posted by: Lindsey at September 17, 2008 4:17 PM


No cologne on men. I've been known to make a man
go shower before intimacy when he's all smelled-up.

Very, very subtle perfume on woman. Should only be
noticeable if you have your face next to hers.

And I shave daily, sometimes twice a day if I'm
making a night of it. I'm a hairy mofo.

Posted by: Drake at September 17, 2008 4:19 PM

SOME guys, Lindsey. Don't get them all thinking they can pull that off! I dated a guy who showered frequently and always smelled like laundry detergent and manly-soap and this naturally good smell. I wonder if it had something to do with what he ate? He was very health conscious and ate a lot of fruits and vegtables. But I've also smelled guys who naturally smell like B.O., or kind of have this "I toweled off with a towel I haven't washed in a month" mildewy smell, or guys that smell almost...greasy/oily, or guys that smell like oniony/garlicy food. Not good. Just not.

Posted by: tt_marie at September 17, 2008 4:23 PM

No cologne for me. My girlfriend once told me that I should wear Old Spice because that's what her ex used to wear. Yeah, that relationship ended well...

Posted by: Lou at September 17, 2008 4:26 PM

I really need to know how the tamest reviews of average films degenerate into discussions of tampon-themed Christmas trees, Halloween recipes that feature santorum and Panda rape but Dustin asks everybody what they splash on themselves while naked and (despite Skittum's best efforts) we have a pretty straight-forward discussion of Avon products?

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 17, 2008 4:33 PM

Apparently it doesn't matter what I wear, she loves how I smell regardless.

Posted by: Justin at September 17, 2008 4:34 PM

I was wondering that myself Paddy, seeing as so many threads of late have taken a turn to Vaginaland.

Posted by: Julie at September 17, 2008 4:36 PM

As for cologne, only on special occasions for Mrs. Newman who has a nose like an oenologist and really loves cologne.

Not a big fan of perfume but if used sparingly its OK. Except the stuff that smells like talc. Keep that shit away.

I envy you blokes who can by shaving once or twice a week. Translucent skin and a black beard means I have five o'clock shadow by about noon. So I pretty much have to shave every day. Not only that I have to shave in two directions each time in order to get a close enough shave that it looks like I shaved at all. Fucking blows and I don't shave on the weekends in protest. But you know what's worse? A goddamn beard. A scraggly, itchy, rash-inducing beard or as I like to call it, a Sarah Jessica Parker.

Posted by: Ed Newman at September 17, 2008 4:38 PM

Julie, I don't know where that is...but it sounds like a lovely, magical place, full of Jessica Simpson's edible beauty products!

Posted by: tt_marie at September 17, 2008 4:39 PM

I don't really like it when men wear cologne. I do like it when guys wear Old Spice deoderant. Not any real strong smell though.
I don't usually wear purfume. I just sometimes wear Chance by Chanel. But everything in moderation.

Posted by: Erin at September 17, 2008 4:43 PM

Late to the party again...
For ANY scent, USE SPARINGLY - spritz THEN walk into the mist, don't spray directly on yourself or you'll kill small children.

I am partial to earthy, hippie-ass essential oils (NOT PATCHOULI, fuck you, you smell like a stale, wet basement), and my all-time favorite, The Body Shop's White Musk. So sexy and delicious smelling - and it works every time if yaknawwhaddahmsayin'.

As for the dudes, my hubs wears Old Spice deoderant, and that works just fine for me - but I do have fond (and trashy) memories of certain boys involving Eternity for Men and Cool Water. Anytime I catch a whiff I get that weak-in-da-knees, I'm in the backseat of a car kinda feeling.

Sense memory is the awesome.

Posted by: Tammy at September 17, 2008 4:43 PM

Julie I used to use Exclamation! and Love's Rain Scent in high school, too!!! Wait, was Exclamation in the yellow and white striped aerosol can? Jesus, I wore so much of that crap that even the hint of it now makes me want to hurl.

I had a boyfriend (ok, my first ex-husband) who absolutely used to bathe in some cheap, knock-off Polo crap. Remember when all the guys wore Polo? Or Stetson? Good lord, it's amazing any of us have any olfactory senses left. Between that and the old ladies who try to cover up the fact that they are smoking like chimneys by pouring on 1/2 a bottle of Emeraude or Youth Dew? I'd as soon smell a wino after a 3 day drunk who'd pissed himself and been pissed on by half the town's dogs.

I only wear cologne occasionally, and then it is something very light and vanilla based. On my guys, I prefer they don't smell like long-shoremen, but I also don't want them smelly like Jack McFarland probably would...something slightly woodsy, maybe.

Hell, after a couple drinks, it really doesn't matter anyway, does it?

Posted by: dammitjanet at September 17, 2008 4:43 PM

tt_marie, I just looked up Jessica Simpson's line and there are scents and lotions with names like Slip, Slide, and Creamy. Perfect names for beauty products sold in Vaginaland. I am DYING.

Posted by: Julie at September 17, 2008 4:45 PM

tt_marie:
Agreed, SOME men. But I mean it, this is not a pleasant whiff, this is a stop-you-in-your-tracks-and-inhale-deeply-and-tremble sort of thing. (TMI?)Usually to end in disappointment when I realize it is coming from some fat sweating check-out clerk or a 17 year old kid. It isn't the person that is attractive, it is whatever is naturally being emitted from them. Weird, I know. Maybe someday I will meet someone who is appropriate, attractive and has this quality. The Ex-Mr Lindsey didn't, and I married him anyway, so it isn't a deal breaker.

OK, I will just chalk it up to me being a freak. Carry on.

Posted by: Lindsey at September 17, 2008 4:48 PM

I've read that women generally have better senses of smell than men, which is why women think men wear too much cologne.

Cologne on men and women is fine, but nothing cloying and only ONE SPRITZ that you walk into. You should only smell strong enough that someone getting close to you wants to move even closer.

And I'm with wsapnin -- who are you men who shave once a week? Do you have JOBS? I mean, outside of a Starbucks? Maybe I'm just jealous cuz facial hair is practically taboo where I work. Unless you're a copy-jockey, you don't sport a 'stache or beard here.

Posted by: Jimbob at September 17, 2008 4:48 PM

Hee! Perfect!

I am now picturing Vaginaland as an actual place, and am trying to decide what the economy would be centered around, what the houses would look like, what people would wear, and what the mayor's name would be. The possibilities are endless...

Posted by: tt_marie at September 17, 2008 4:49 PM

Yes and yes! I love me a tasty smellin' man. Currently my husband wears Vera Wang during the day, Kenneth Cole Black when we go out and Tiffany's for special occasions. I wear Ralph Loren Romance during the day, Gucci II and Versace Crystal Noir when I go out and Tiffany's for special occasions. I know this sounds like I'm a snob (which I totally am) but I'm obsessed when it comes to odor.

I shave everyday. No exceptions.

Posted by: Agent Scully at September 17, 2008 4:52 PM

Oh, and for myself, I have a weakness for Tommy Hilfiger perfumes. I've been using their old "tommy girl" for ages, and this new "True Star" thingo is delicious, as stupid as the names sound.

But again, moderation is key!

And yeah, fuck Axe and every one of their stupid ads.

Posted by: figgylicious at September 17, 2008 4:55 PM

Oh holy fuck tt_marie, now I'm cracking myself up trying to think up answers to your questions. One thing is for certain, there will be no Hoovervilles in Vaginaland, only charming Victorian houses and affordable condominiums. Mayor Frenulum Van der Clit wouldn't allow it.

Posted by: Julie at September 17, 2008 4:57 PM

I can't really wear perfume. Sneeze about 20 time then get a raging headache any time I try. Sometimes I can get away with Chanel No.5, but I certainly couldn't use it daily. So yeah, I prefer my men without cologne since it hurts my head, and if other people are wearing it please god tone it down, it doesn't just smell overwhelming to me, it makes me ill.
I shave probably 3 times a week, sometimes more. (here you go Paddy: there are places where even the tiniest bit of stubble is hell. I will probably never have bush again just because once I'd shaved I couldn't let it grow for more than two days tops.)

Posted by: s. pisaster at September 17, 2008 4:58 PM

Hmmmmmm....Chanel Egoiste platinum mingled with sauteed garlic and hickory smoke.....

Hey, my hubby's a chef, what can I say...???

Posted by: Courtney at September 17, 2008 5:08 PM

guys: sparingly. when done correctly it can be incredibly hot.

me: issay miyake for whenever, perry ellis reserve in the summer and jean paul gaultier in the winter. that's it. only those.

shaving is seasonal as well: winter, not so much; summer, when it's necessary.

side note: the f-iz-ella bought the issay miyake for men scent after i bought mine. i like to think we are now complementary.

Posted by: elizabeth at September 17, 2008 5:12 PM

I am now picturing Vaginaland as an actual place

See, now, I'm picturing a theme park, with rides like the Birth Canal water slide (one of those enclosed ones, obvy), the Whack-a-Schween game, a ring-toss where the ring is a condom and the bottle is a banana, and the PMS Roller Coaster.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at September 17, 2008 5:15 PM

And s.pisaster comes running to the rescue.

Julie:promise me Vaginaland will have no ugly yew bushes outside the houses: only tasteful Hydrangeas and lilacs. We want vaginaland to be pretty, nicely scented and only need occasional flushing out.

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 17, 2008 5:17 PM

I don't wear scents much, because I work with cancer patients, and they can be sensitive to odors. If I do wear scent (away from work), it has to be very subtle. I can't stand the Bed,Bath and Body Works scents. I worked in an office where a lot of the women wore that stuff, and it got to smelling like overripe fruit. I guess scent is okay on a guy as long as his is subtle, too.

Posted by: rlr260 at September 17, 2008 5:28 PM

I've worn cologne maybe twice in my life. I think one of the times was prom.

Subtle perfumes are nice. I was hooked on an ex's use of "sun-ripened raspberry" from Bath & Body.

I shave sometime between once and twice per week and often look quite scraggly at the office. On the rare occasions when I suspect or know I'll be making out, I'll try to shave as soon beforehand as possible to save the poor lady from being chopped to pieces by my stubble.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at September 17, 2008 5:34 PM

In regards to the whole "men respond most positively to the smell of vanilla extract" fact: back in the day, Sassy magazine (does anyone besides me remember Sassy?) did a feature where the writers tried some of the "man-catching" techniques recommended by that beacon of feminism Cosmo magazine. The writer applied vanilla extract to her neck and wrists and sidled up next to a group of men in a bar. She reports that rather than falling at her feet, the guys asked each other, "Does anyone else smell Rice Krispies treats?". Ha! I think of that every time I see vanilla food-scented lotions or perfumes. Snap, crackle, FAIL.

Posted by: Melissa at September 17, 2008 5:35 PM

I don't usually wear perfume. I use a scented body lotion every day, either coconut or mango (used to live in the tropics, got addicted to the scents), and adding perfume to that is just disgusting. But on guys, I do like a little bit of cologne, just enough that I can only smell it if I'm close enough. I used to have a housemate who would use so much that I could actually taste it as he walked by... awful.

Posted by: kayz at September 17, 2008 5:37 PM

You know Dustin, you could have just asked us to clearly state our genders.
Re Scents, yup chalk up a vote for minimal on men but a bit more leaway for women.
For perfume I always used what I was given until I got Amarige and a few compliments, so I'll stick to that for now. When I was a kid my mum's scarf drawer would always have this scent, a sort of memory of her perfume. That smell will always spell 'comforting' for me.
Re shaving, maybe once a decade now. I'm a strong proponent of ripping the hairs out at the roots, and since getting an epilator I have never looked back. After 10 years of waxing/epilating, my legs and armpits really don't hurt anymore, and no stubble ever. Every week or two weeks is good enough (note depilating after jogging is good because you have all those endorphins for pain killers).
I really need to know how the tamest reviews of average films degenerate into discussions of tampon-themed Christmas trees, Halloween recipes that feature santorum and Panda rape but Dustin asks everybody what they splash on themselves while naked and (despite Skittum's best efforts) we have a pretty straight-forward discussion of Avon products?
Isn't it obvious? A review of a boring film doesn't leave the comments anywhere else to go. But an opportunity to talk about ourselves...

Posted by: ChrisD at September 17, 2008 5:58 PM

I wear perfume or body lotion every day without fail and like to be able to smell it myself. I'm not subtle in these matters. I like cologne on men, too.

My scents of choice these days: Marc Jacobs, Tiffany, and Ananya from the Body Shop (still among my favorites). In the past, I've worn Estee Lauder's Beautiful, Fendi, Quel Que Fleur, Thierry Mugler's Alien and Angel perfumes, Burberry, and anything that smells like gardenia.

Posted by: samantha t at September 17, 2008 6:02 PM

Uncanny, Chris D - I was beating my head against a wall trying to remember another perfume of yesteryear. Amarige! One of my favorites.

Posted by: samantha t at September 17, 2008 6:04 PM

I'm not sure about cologne, but there's this guy at work who smells re-e-eally good to me all the time, whether because of cologne or his own personal musk, I don't know.

Personally, I am very sensitive to scent, and I don't usually care for most perfumes or colognes from magazines, on people, whatever.

Posted by: Cait at September 17, 2008 6:10 PM

Go Green, from Lush. Nicely herbal, sweet but non-floral, subtle, solid at room temperatures (which eliminates the risk of spills for klutzy boys like me), and melts well onto exposed skin. It's also inexpensive relative to other fragrances, and that particular scent is also available in one of their shampoo bars (which is a whole other level of awesome).

Posted by: jeem at September 17, 2008 6:30 PM

First of all--thank you. I needed a diversion this afternoon.

Second, the men that wear cologne in LA are tools. Don't to it. And if you do, a LITTLE dab'll do ya. Less is more.

One of my clients came in to my office (in LA) earlier this week and we could still smell him four hours after he left. The comments from my co-workers left me with the impression that if you wear alot of cologne, people think you're dirty and that you wear it to cover your own stench.

Is the shaving comment for girls too? Cuz I only shave the mustache on Saturday mornings, but the legs every day.

Posted by: Emily at September 17, 2008 6:37 PM

I have to agree with everyone who hates axe. I don't mind a little cologne, but Mr. Beehive rarely wears it because he hates not smelling like himself. I love his smell, so I don't mind.

As for myself, I tend to (sadly) match my scents to my outfits. I don't really know why I do this, but I always have. Right now, if I wear warm colors I will wear Hanae Mori, which is like this sandalwood-vanilla smell, and for cool colors I wear a dab of this passionfruit oil I got many years ago.

As for shaving, I never do. Unless I have to bear my legs for a pedicure, day at the beach, or upscale event. No, thanks!

Posted by: beehive24 at September 17, 2008 6:39 PM

It is never acceptable for a man to wear cologne; however, it is advisable for him to keep a bottle in his sock or underwear drawer, thereby imparting a subtle scent where desirable. Old Spice aftershave is permissible in moderation.

For myself I can't wear perfume as it gives me a headache. But I like the smell of peonies. When is someone gonna start making peony scented deodorant? Fuck baby powder. I ain't no baby!

Mini-diversion: don't you wish they could really make things smell like rain on grass, or forest floor, or sun-dried laundry? Now those are some scents I would wear. Fresh puppy smell might be taking it to far, but I might be willing to try it.

Posted by: AM at September 17, 2008 6:53 PM

Shave: Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday. Barbasol.

Shampoo: Head and Shoulders.

Body wash: Right Guard.

Toothpaste: Crest.

Mouthwash: ACT cinnamon.

Who needs cologne? I smell like a pharmacy.

Posted by: bucdaddy at September 17, 2008 6:54 PM

Cologne for men: VS Very Sexy for Him - There was a sample of this in my mail box one day and the entire mailbox smelled so good.

Myself: I wear Cool Water Woman and Cool Water Wave are my current two. I used to wear Ralph Lauren's Romance and Ralph.

Shaving? When necessary or every 10 days.

Posted by: Melody at September 17, 2008 7:05 PM

Speaking of Vaginaland, I accidentally misread the title of this thread as Hoo-Ha! Scent of a Woman and I didn't even think twice about it.

That's the kind of place this is.

Posted by: AM at September 17, 2008 7:05 PM

I love a fine smelling man. It's such a turn on. My high school drama teacher (well, not my teacher, I was more of a band geek than drama geek, but he taught at my school) wore Fahrenheit by Christian Dior, and to this day the scent makes my knees weak. Freshly showered comes in second.

The classic perfumes like Chanel No 5 don't do anyting for me, they're too.. unnatural, for lack of a better word. Also, I'm pretty low maintenance, so those fancy-pants perfumes don't suit me so well. I really like Flower by Kenzo for the summer (though it's a little more floral than I usually like), and my daily scent as we head into fall is the ridiculously affordable Jovan Musk for women.

Posted by: Lisa at September 17, 2008 7:10 PM

How I Gave Up Scented Products and Rediscovered My Sense of Taste And Smell and Gained Twenty Pounds

Closest I come to perfume is the rosebush outside my studio window. My favorite scent on a man is that almost not there smell that follows a light dusting of bath powder. Either that or bacon...

Posted by: funtime42 at September 17, 2008 7:17 PM

My foray into scents began in junior high school, her name was Daphne. It was also the first time I tried oral sex. After a thirty minute bus ride, we would walk the rest of the way to school. One day we went up to the third floor and for some reason we started kissing, next thing I know I'm going down on my knees and I'm kissing her at the bottom of her stomach. I remember vividly the color of her panties. I began to kiss the front of her panties and she moaned. To this day I can remember the scent of her perfume it was so amazing.

Posted by: Pookie at September 17, 2008 7:18 PM

For the guys, I really think that it depends on your under-arm scent. If scentless then a light cologne, and Bath and Body Works has some decent skin friendly stuff for after shaving and cologne that is not overpowering. If your under-arm material has a scent then no cologne, because it can create a nasty mix.

For the ladies, the perfume has to be subtle, I want to be enticed not sneezing out a box of Kleenex.

Posted by: richmac at September 17, 2008 7:34 PM

Speaking of Vaginaland, I accidentally misread the title of this thread as Hoo-Ha! Scent of a Woman and I didn't even think twice about it.

That's the kind of place this is

Yeah, since Stacey's hint phrase was "Pesky fart stank making you a social pariah?" and then here's "scent of a woman". I was pretty damn scared about proceeding.

Thus the genial "oh, you mean fragrances?! Phew!" conversation.

Posted by: Jay at September 17, 2008 7:34 PM

I've got two strikes against me - I'm late to the conversation AND I have to follow Pookie. Sigh.

When I do wear perfume, which doesn't happen often, it's Rykiel Rose. It's not a common scent, which I like. I don't want to smell like a million other women.

As far as men go, I prefer the smell of whatever lotion, after shave balm or shower gel they use over cologne. Cologne also tastes terrible when necking.

Shaving: Underarms every day, legs every other day, and when I could see my lady bits, I'd shave them every third day or so. I rather miss seeing them.

Posted by: Kolby at September 17, 2008 7:36 PM

A well chosen scent on my man is an unbelievable turn-on, especially when he wears a suit. One spritz is enough. For anyone.

Posted by: lori at September 17, 2008 7:43 PM

Shave every day, use lemongrass soap instead of spraying myself with perfume.


Love polo sport on men. Most other colognes make me wanna gag. Polo would probably make me gag as well if my boyfriend just sloshed the stuff on like most men do. Women tend to be conservative with their stuff (probably because they buy more expensive shit in the first place.) Men, however, I swear a lot of them sit in a tub full of their cologne the way it smells. There are some colognes that make me wish I was smelling straight up BO. BO while disgusting I can actually ignore but cologne wants to climb into your nose and make sure you're aware of its presence.Yuck.

Posted by: Devo at September 17, 2008 7:47 PM

No cologne on men. Or at least the men in my office building. I can get out of the elevator and follow the scent to the desk of the last guy who wore cologne in there. It's usually that strong. Don't know what it is about my co-workers. Or maybe it's just my nose. Hate the stuff. The smell of soap is fine, guys. I love you. I do.

Posted by: greer at September 17, 2008 7:56 PM

Who needs cologne? I smell like a pharmacy.

And I'm sure Anna von Beaverplatz appreciates that every Tuesday, bucdaddy!

Posted by: lordhelmet at September 17, 2008 8:28 PM

I think I may like the idea of perfume more than perfume itself, since I have several but don't wear them all that often. I quite like Givenchy Hot Couture, and Hugo Boss Deep Red in small quantities.

Also, no specifics, but I do like scents on men, as long as they're subtle, and don't smell like douchbaggery. As for shaving, it happens about twice a week, which is when the stubble starts to bother me. More often than that when it's skirt weather.

Posted by: kalexal at September 17, 2008 8:38 PM

Shave every day, use lemongrass soap instead of spraying myself with perfume.

Care to share the brand - I love the smell of lemongrass?

See, now, I'm picturing a theme park, with rides like the Birth Canal water slide (one of those enclosed ones, obvy), the Whack-a-Schween game, a ring-toss where the ring is a condom and the bottle is a banana, and the PMS Roller Coaster.

Brilliant Anna. Don't forget the diva cup ride, and the tampon-log splash (bloody?) ride. I seem to have an unconscious menstrual focus going.

Posted by: Cindy at September 17, 2008 8:52 PM

Heh, lordhelmet.

I can't get within 50 feet of a Bath & Body Works without retching. The smell is an active, evil, physical presence, a Mallville Horror. It says "Get ouuuuuut."

Posted by: bucdaddy at September 17, 2008 8:53 PM

AmyK, Every day.

I should add that I shave around my beard (cheeks, neck), which I keep trimmed fairly short. That's right, we're talkin' mustache rides again, baby!

Posted by: bucdaddy at September 17, 2008 9:02 PM

Love perfume.

I wear a rotating group of scents from Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab, they stick very close to the skin and I particularly like their lighter scents that have mint, or lavender, or lemon.

I also adore Covet by SJP. *hangs head in shame* I get compliments on it all the time.

Best perfume ever is "En Passant" by Frederick Malle. It's $150/bottle and I only have a tiny sample of it that I only wear on special occasions. It's meant to evoke walking on a parisian street carrying a fresh baguette and a bouquet of lilacs, and it does exactly that.

On men, a touch of aftershave like L'Occitane's Cade or a subtle BPAL oil is fantastic. Cologne always smells like nightclubs and desperation to me.

Posted by: dutchmodernist at September 17, 2008 9:09 PM

Late to the party, as always.

I'm not one to wear perfume, but I'll make an effort to pick out soap or shampoo that smells nice up close.

For men, if it's subtle, cologne can be a nice touch. But, it can also go very, very wrong.

As for shaving - everyday; I feel gross with stubble.

Posted by: LB at September 17, 2008 9:56 PM

I'm with whoever saw Hoo-Ha in the title -- and it didn't give me the least bit of pause. In fact, I had to go back and verify that it wasn't Hoo-Ha; that's how convinced and unconcerned I was about it. How would it be possible to not love a place like this?

So there's only one other daily (or more often) shaver among the Y chromosome set? And most of the less-frequent shavers don't say they're sporting facial hair; they just don't need to shave. I guess I'm not surprised at how few manly men there are here (or maybe y'all are Asian). Mrs. G claims to like the grizzled look, but then she goes and yelps at my sandpaper kisses if I skip a day -- plus it's itchy as hell. So it's once- or twice-a-day ritual face-scraping for me.

I'm surprised too at the number of ladies professing to dislike cologne at all on a guy. Everyone hates the olfactorily challenged -- man and woman alike -- who marinate in smelly stuff, but in my experience many women respond favorably to a subtle, spicy scent. Someone mentioned Fahrenheit, and I wore that for many years; I would routinely get asked what the scent was and who made it and where it could be procured. I continue to have that experience with Calvin Klein Euphoria and Ermangildo Zegna Intenso. One spritz ain't enough, but you can cover all the pulse points with two.

Posted by: Che Grovera at September 17, 2008 10:14 PM

I find most women's perfume to have a chemical smell that I don't like.

I shave about twice a week. I should shave more often.

Posted by: NF at September 17, 2008 10:23 PM

Until my sense of smell was knocked out by an apparent Naval plague, I enjoyed Burberry Brit for Men and Narciso Rodriguez For Her for ladies like me.

I'm super blond, so I shave whenever the hell I feel like it.

Posted by: Agente Provocatrice at September 17, 2008 10:31 PM

No cologne on men or perfume on women (very light scents are ok though)...some men and women wear it very sparingly and I'm fine with it. But some men really drown themselves in it and when they walk by the waft this overpowering scent in your face and it's worse than a fart sometimes. Plus I'm so allergy-ridden these days that cologne or perfume makes me sneeze my ass off! Hell, at leasts farts don't overwhelm your senses and at least go away when you light a match!

Posted by: ph at September 17, 2008 10:50 PM

Y'all seem to be aware of the vanilla thing already, but just to reinforce it, Lemon Demon has some wise words for all of us.

"Put a drop of vanilla behind each ear and you'll smell like a cookie all day."

Otherwise, I really don't care for scents. Not that it really applies to me, what with my lack of a social circle of any kind.

Posted by: Lucas at September 17, 2008 10:56 PM

I'm super blond, so I shave whenever the hell I feel like it.

Posted by: Agente Provocatrice at September 17, 2008 10:31 PM

If you're super blond then you are probably shaving whatever you feel like.

Posted by: Che Grovera at September 17, 2008 11:01 PM

Where am I? Is this Pajiba? This thread has been ridicu ... remarkably free of the ladies discussing shaving ... down there.

Posted by: bucdaddy at September 17, 2008 11:07 PM

My favorite perfume, Elizabeth Arden's Splendor, was discontinued a few years ago, and I'm still mourning the loss.

:sniff:

Posted by: agent bedhead at September 17, 2008 11:14 PM

I love perfume/cologne in and of itself, but rare is the man who doesn't overdo it, and obviously on myself, I'm not dousing myself to the point I can enjoy it. Most perfume pleasure, consequently, is in bottle-sniffing. For men, 90's-defining Cool Water or Fahrenheit are great (I picked up a near-empty sample vial of Fahrenheit once and hit it like glue for years, until not a molecule remained). On myself, I love the Clean line for everyday (Lather, Fresh Laundry, currently wearing Ultimate Clean) and for sexing it up, Bobbi Brown Beach, Tom Ford Black Orchid, DKNY Gold or my old standby: Almondesque by The Body Shop, which smells like warm amaretto and reminds me of a great one-night stand. The Body Shop - despite being a disappointing fraud as a "social justice company" - makes perfume that smells as close to the real thing as anything in a bottle can; Rose and Lilac are also daytime "girly-girl" favorites.

Incidentally...the only "man-stink" I remember fondly is my high-school crush, and it wasn't cologne...just him. I would have spent 4 years with my face in his neck, though, if he'd have let me. Lucky for me, he found Jesus and I found Mr. Almondesque, or I'd still be hung up. No time to shave legs every day (stubble-phobe) if I'm busy cutting up magazines to spell out my love notes....

Posted by: ClGirl at September 17, 2008 11:31 PM

i like cologne on a guy--just not a lot of it. i detest any of those nasty axe sprays. headache in a can. obsession for men is a nice scent.

for me, i love prada amber.

and i shave every day.

Posted by: kelley at September 17, 2008 11:44 PM

For women, it is "Nude" by Bill Blass. Always. I'm gay, but this stuff is so sexy that it makes me have a physical reaction when women smell it. It is a rarity to find any woman wearing it nowadays (you can still buy it online), which is probably good for me, lest I suffer more bouts of sexual identity confusion.

For men, it is Caroline Herrera's original scent. It smells like a man should smell: wealthy. It has undernotes of sandalwood, cedar, and tobacco. This cologne is what your guy should smell like under his suit after a long day at the office.

But for me personally? It has to be the smell of a man who's just come in from mowing the lawn. RAWR!

Posted by: Shane at September 18, 2008 12:14 AM

I dunno if my other post went through so I'll try once more:

For Cindy:
http://www.lalavandegifts.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=14&Itemid=2

Posted by: Devo at September 18, 2008 12:35 AM

Issey Miyake has this kind citrusy, fresh scent (in a transparent bottle).. it smells like you've just got out of a shower... that's ma cologne of choice.

For the ladies it'll have to be an body lotion with a hint of caramel and perfume wise it'll have to be "Ralph" by RL. Those two smells just drive me wild, I mean "lose all control, tear her panties off, push her up against all, and just fuck" kind of wild

Shave every day I'm afraid... that's the price for being so fucking manly (ok ok I'm South Asian we're a hairy fucking bunch)

Posted by: Colombo at September 18, 2008 1:05 AM

Issey Miyake has this kind citrusy, fresh scent (in a transparent bottle).. it smells like you've just got out of a shower... that's ma cologne of choice.

For the ladies it'll have to be an body lotion with a hint of caramel and perfume wise it'll have to be "Ralph" by RL. Those two smells just drive me wild, I mean "lose all control, tear her panties off, push her up against all, and just fuck" kind of wild

Shave every day I'm afraid... that's the price for being so fucking manly (ok ok I'm South Asian we're a hairy fucking bunch)

Posted by: Colombo at September 18, 2008 1:16 AM

For special times it's Chanel No5 or Kelly Caleche. I shave when I remember to, or right after I buy new razors. Yep, the Mr. Be Adequite is a lucky (and patient) one!

Not a cologne fan when it comes to men. I think it's weird when men wear perfume or jewelry (other than a wedding band or cockring).

Posted by: Be Adequite! at September 18, 2008 1:17 AM

I hereby nominate myself as mayor of Vaginaland. Since I'm both a vagina owner and a vagina connoisseur, I'm uniquely qualified.

Ahem. Perfume. Right.

I used to work at a perfume counter when I was in high school, and my manager used to have me fill in at the men's fragrance counter a lot. Certainly my habit of wearing short skirts to work had nothing to do with that, nor did the fact that I sold a lot of cologne that was stocked on the bottom shelf. Anyways, Aramis and Acqua Di Gio were known as 'eau de midlife crisis'. They're assault colognes worn exclusively by men with bald heads and ill-advised convertibles. The only ones I liked were some of the Ralph Lauren, Cool Water, and one in the Tommy Hilfiger line. I can't stand Grey Flannel because I associate it strongly with the Evil Ex.

I wear Romance because it's subtle and light. None of my perfume-sensitive family objects to it, and I get a lot of compliments on it. It was initially a single woman fuck-you; I'd broken up with a guy who insisted I wear Opium all the time. Now it's my signature scent.

I shave every few days, just often enough to prevent rug burn. Or dental floss.

Posted by: Kris at September 18, 2008 2:18 AM

Late to the game, woops!

Me: Stella McCartney, Miss Dior Cherie or Michael Kors. I actually used up an entire bottle of Stella (smells likes roses) and I've been meaning to repurchase...

Him: No strong cologne. I've found that it's impossible to be attracted to someone whose natural smell is just "off." This happened to me in junior high: huge crush on boy, but couldn't get over his natural smell! Very weird. But please guys, no B.O.

Shaving: Only when I know I won't be wearing jeans. It used to be every Thursday and Sunday; I thought that I'd be beginning and ending the week with nice, smooth legs? Haha.

Posted by: Corinna at September 18, 2008 2:29 AM

I love Jean Paul Gaultier for men, and can barely restrain myself from licking a guy if he's wearing it.

Shaving happens every other day, except for pits which are every day. I wear a light perfume in the day (like Roxy, or Aqua di Gio) which smell nice and fresh and if I'm going out somewhere I'll give it a litte JPG (mostly cuz I like fondly those lovely bottles). Never douse yourself though, spritz and walk into the mist...

Posted by: Lisa S at September 18, 2008 2:50 AM

Perfume for a Woman depends on the woman. Much like the Col. I'm partial to the layered notes of clean skin and high-end craft soap.

Cologne for me um, no, although I'm told that a soap smell can linger in a good way. (Who'd have thought it?) So, for special occasions I break out the sandalwood soap. Sage or green tea infused also get good reviews. (I live in the freaking North West. You can't find a bar of Ivory for all the free-trade, organic, crystal-milled, karmically-correct craft soap infused with Bigfoot stank and rainbows crowded on every freaking shelf even at the freaking 7-11's out here. Give me a break.)

The aroma that clings when I've been cooking gets good reviews sometimes, too. Seems to go with use of oregano or lemons and fixing a quick dinner vs. a day-long kitchen marathon. Sage gets noticed, but is too strong.

Shaving not since Kim-Sweetie said "Are you growing a beard? That looks great." Best -20 cold snap I ever endured was the half-week before that, which kept me from shaving.

"Back in the day" I shaved every. damn. morning. Sometimes twice.

Showers are medicinal, and I sweat - biking, kata or cooking leave me drenched. That's on top of walking at least a couple miles each day. So, it's a rare day I don't shower, and twice isn't unusual.

Part of keeping company, I think, is helping your special naked friend replace the veneer of respectability afterwords. If you don't need a shower between the ballistic gymnastics and rejoining respectable company, you're doing it wrong. Ust the sandalwood soap.

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at September 18, 2008 4:54 AM

I should shave every day, but I really hate it. My beard grows out every which way, seemingly just to be annoying, so I end up shaving the same spot over and over and eventually removing several layers of skin because my razors seem to prefer cutting skin over hair. I end up shaving every one and a half days; morning, next afternoon, skip a day, repeat.

Posted by: James at September 18, 2008 4:59 AM

On guys, I'm a fan of Cool Water. It's light in smell, but sooooo yummy.

I'm not a perfume fan, per se. It makes me think of old ladies. I use the spritzes from Bath and Body Works--I've been wearing the Black Raspberry and Vanilla for several years now--a little fruity, but not so much that I smell like a gummy bear. I just like smelling fresh.

I agree with whoever said that you shouldn't mix smells--no strong shampoo/shower gel with perfume. My body wash, shampoo, and conditioner are all oatmeal-based, so no strong scents there.

As for shaving, my legs get shaved at least once a week, more often than that if there's a boyfriend in the picture.

Posted by: nutmeag at September 18, 2008 8:39 AM

I had no idea there were this many anti-cologne people out there. I'm in the "for it" category myself but in moderation. The most important thing is not to cheap out on it. Spending $40 or more on a bottle of cologne is perfectly fine and it does make a hell of a difference. It should last about a year if used daily. One spritz in the morning and you're done. Same with women, you really shouldn't smell it until you are a foot away at most. The wife wears Cashmere Mist, that stuff rocks. I like Chanel Allure for myself.

Posted by: TylerDFC at September 18, 2008 8:54 AM

In the fall, Dolly Girl (spicy!) by Anna Sui. In the summer, Bobbi Brown Beach (it smells like suncreen and sea salt) or some rose perfume.

On guys, nothing other than deodorant.

Posted by: jvo at September 18, 2008 8:55 AM

I'm allergic to most perfumes/colognes. The only perfume I can wear without giving myself a migraine is Body Shop White Musk. So very high school, but I haven't found anything else that works.

As for shaving... legs are whenever I think of them. I have very fine, very blonde leg hair and I sometimes forget that it grows (I think two months was the record). Various other body parts more often, depending on the level of action I'm getting.

Mr. Pea is an every-other-day shaver. His beard is fairly thick, but it's a combination of red and blonde that makes it pretty inconspicuous on day 2.

Posted by: Pea at September 18, 2008 8:55 AM

Thanks Devo.

Posted by: Cindy at September 18, 2008 8:57 AM

Who needs cologne? I smell like a pharmacy.

And I'm sure Anna von Beaverplatz appreciates that every Tuesday, bucdaddy!

You have no idea how sexy that man is, lh....! That medicinal smell.... mm-mm!

Cindy, I actually was apparently on a reproduction bent when I started, 'cause all the rides I came up with were pregnancy and birth related. Then I said "ew" and thought of some other ones.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at September 18, 2008 9:07 AM

I prefer my man without cologne, I only like stink on my gays. I personally wear Gucci Rush, but only a little.

Speaking of gays, a friend of mine used to work in a department store makeup/fragrance section, and had a woman come in asking for Hot Cooter. It took a good five minutes before they could figure out that she was looking for Givenchy Haute Couture.

Hot Cooter must be the signature scent of Vaginaland...

Posted by: MG at September 18, 2008 10:25 AM

Oooooooh, sandalwood soap... The best stuff (IMHO) is Mysore Sandal Soap, which is usually stocked at Indian groceries. Not only does it smell *amazing*, but it also leaves the skin very soft and VERY conducive to lots and lots and lots of repetitive touching.

When it comes to shaving, I have a very thin (brown) beard; fair and therefore very sensitive skin; and a very relaxed office dress code. As a result, I normally shave every other day at the most and twice a week at the least. (More often and my face and neck get all red and inflamed, which is neither fun nor attractive; less often and I go from "pleasantly scruffy" to just "unkempt".)

Thanks for the suggestion on BPAL, dutchmodernist! I'll have to check them out.

Posted by: jeem at September 18, 2008 10:31 AM

I hereby nominate myself as mayor of Vaginaland. Since I'm both a vagina owner and a vagina connoisseur, I'm uniquely qualified.

Apparently just being a vagina owner is enough, Kris

But can you see Vaginaland from your house?

Posted by: MG at September 18, 2008 10:32 AM

I fell in love with a man and a woman who both wore CK One (heh heh) so that is my little trip down memory lane...

My hubs smells delicious without anything. That is why I married him--because I could live my entire life with my nose stuffed in his pit.

But when we are going out, he wears Armani's Gio, and GAWD it makes me crazy. (Like, push him into a public bathroom stall crazy. Needless to say, he likes to go out...)

And I wear a light citrus body powder (cornstarch, not talc) as a deodorant (antiperspirant is BAD BAD BAD) and a perfume by the Thymes company called Fig Leaf and Cassius. It is light, non-flowery, feminine and makes me feel gorgeous.

Shaving for me: the legs about twice a week (I'm not very hairy and my leg hair is blonde, so yay.) and my pits never. I wax them once a month. And I love my little pit hairs; they are so fem.

Shaving for my hubs: he is the hairiest man to walk the planet, so he doesn't shave, he mows. And he usually wears a full beard, but last night he cut some sweet paths that gave him awesome chops and a rocking goattee. Hot hot hot hot hot. Damn, why again did I have to come to work today???

Posted by: boo at September 18, 2008 10:46 AM

*ahem*

Perfume should be discovered; not announced.

Thank you. (or, You're welcome.)

P.S.
This also applies to thongs.

P.P.S.
"Desperation is a stinky cologne." (hee!)

Posted by: bostonadrianne at September 18, 2008 11:46 AM

I have fond memories of "Cool Water" by Davidoff.

I wore it on my first big date with this hot redhead girl who watched Evil Dead with me. So it's safe to say I fell head over heels for her.

The smell of cool water reminds me of that anticipation and brings back memories of her.

My girlfriend now doesn't wear perfume. But she uses Herbal Essences, so I smell that on her usually.

As for shaving, I shave about once a week. Not a particular day, just when the scruff is itchy or my girlfriend complains about it. I tried growing out my beard, but in 3 weeks, it looked as trashy as it did 1 week in.

Guess I'll keep the Roman clean-shaven look.

Posted by: Jim at September 18, 2008 11:47 AM

Dear God, no cologne, because I've yet to find a man who knows how to wear it. A guy at my last job wore so much it triggered an instant migraine and sore throat. I could literally use the decay rate of the scent to track him through the building.

Posted by: DeadBessie at September 18, 2008 12:03 PM

No no, desperation is "the world's worst cologne" in Debbie Country.

I nitpick because I love you for bringing it up.

And pop with whoever you want, but nobody is touching my popcorn (nor my fries).

Posted by: Jay at September 18, 2008 12:17 PM

AM You should definitely find yourself to a place that sells the Demeter fragrances. They have a whole variety of scents--some very similar to the ones that you mentioned that you'd like to find

Posted by: tamatha at September 18, 2008 3:25 PM

AM - check out their website, and you'll see what I mean: http://www.demeterfragrance.com/

Posted by: tamatha at September 18, 2008 3:52 PM

Awww, man! I was quoting the Super Troopers version.

Not so funny meow, is it.

Posted by: bostonadrianne at September 18, 2008 4:01 PM

Funny? No. I'm sad, because I thought you liked "Singles"!!


Just.....just go away!!

Posted by: Jay at September 18, 2008 5:03 PM

Not only can I see Vaginaland from my house, I've been on all the rides.

Posted by: Kris at September 19, 2008 12:08 AM

Thanks Tamantha!! I should have known the free market would eventually provide for each of my heart's tiniest most secret desires.

Posted by: AM at September 19, 2008 2:20 PM

AM: Demeter's great - I have 6-7 bottles lying around right now, plus a candle. Just take extra care to keep them apart or in two weeks it'll all mix and just smell like rubbing alcohol.
Also, avoid Ocean. I love the smell of the beach and thought that's what I'd get. Nope. Dead fish.

Posted by: ClGirl at September 19, 2008 10:01 PM





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