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Comment Diversions | July 1, 2009 | Comments (147)


Independence Day is my most-loved American holiday (I hate when people call it “July 4th”). What could be better for an Irish chick than celebrating independence from the Brits? And since this is a weekend when many people traditionally travel to different states to visit family or to get away from family, what are Pajibans’ favorite state/regional quirks (good or bad) they observe on these annual road trips along the nation’s highways? My top five:

New Jersey: No “secret sauce” on White Castles reducing a previously delicious snack to a steamed unknown substance on bread.

Florida: Urban planning equals 3-5 titty bars punctuated by an evangelical church, then repeat.

Maine: $1.50 foot-long lobster rolls at McDonalds; exactly what part of the lobster are we getting for $1.50? (Really? Holy Shit! I know what I’m where my family is eating tomorrow. — DR)

Texas: The really fancy restaurants ask you to check your gun with the maitre d’ before dining; because we all pack a gun before going out to eat, right?

Wisconsin: They’re called Cheese Heads; outside of the Vermont region, they have the highest concentration of artisanal cheese makers in the US. They have luscious grazing lands. So what do they pepper their highways with? Giant “Cheese Castles” that sell “American Cheese” made primarily of “corn oil, yellow coloring #3, and dehydrogenated artificial cheddar-like flavoring.”


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We never traveled for this holiday. We kept the traumatizing at home, like when I got shot in the shoulder by a bottle rocket that my father stuck in a hole in the ground.
I'm still scared of fireworks, but I've worked up to holding sparklers.

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at July 3, 2009 2:09 PM

Giant “Cheese Castles” that sell “American Cheese” made primarily of “corn oil, yellow coloring #3, and dehydrogenated artificial cheddar-like flavoring.”

God bless the squeeky cheese curd.

Posted by: branded at July 3, 2009 2:14 PM

Happy Independence Day, American Pajibans!

See what I did there? I graciously wished the Americans ‘round here a happy holiday even though there was nary a word about Canada Day on Wednesday. You know what that does? That gives us Canadians the right to bitch and complain ‘cause y’all got a 3 day weekend and all we got was a lousy weekday off. You didn't think I did it out of the goodness of my heart did you?

/Not bitter at all.

Posted by: Eyvi at July 3, 2009 2:17 PM

Well, the majority of our family travels were only to the Eastern Shore of MD, where my Dad's whole family lives.

So, yeah, we got Mickey D's if we were lucky. Actually, as kids, that was a treat.

On the other hand, my mom's family mostly lives in SoCal, so nowadays that means at least one trip to In n Out.

Posted by: lizzieborden at July 3, 2009 2:21 PM

New Jersey: No “secret sauce” on White Castles reducing a previously delicious snack to a steamed unknown substance on bread.

Oh, Jersey. You get more and more gross every year.

I try not to travel on Independence Day so I can get really drunk and not have to go far.

Okay, sometimes I go to Brooklyn. But no further.

Posted by: Jessica at July 3, 2009 2:21 PM

well, since canada day ("dominion day" ) was on wednesday, i'll say that traveling from the maritimes to ontario (my two homes) is fun when one passes through rural quebec. it's so strange (and wonderful) to all of a sudden be within canada and encounter absolutely no english speakers, signs, radio stations, etc... And despite what i've been told by others, i've found the quebecois to be very generous to me while i try to practice my french language skills.

when i lived in the states, travelling through michigan (where i went to school) scared the crap out of me. detroit was fine, but much of the rest of the state was a hunting, confederate flag waiving, militia loving time bomb.

Posted by: celery at July 3, 2009 2:24 PM

Regionalisms shmicionalicisms I just wanna say this to the British:

We beat your asses in the Revolution, we beat your asses in 1812, and we beat your asses in WWII, the big one. AND we are MORE than willing, to do it again.

FUCK YEAH! go back to Europea.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 3, 2009 2:26 PM

California: Not buying fireworks that are in any way fun or dangerous because this whole stupid fucking state is kindling

Posted by: A. Biro at July 3, 2009 2:27 PM

detroit was fine, but much of the rest of the state was a hunting, confederate flag waiving, militia loving time bomb.
Haha! When was this? Detroit looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland these days. But few people really recognize how redneck the rest of the state is. Definitely can be just as dangerous if you're any kind of liberal, minority or queer-o-sexual.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at July 3, 2009 2:31 PM

we beat your asses in WWII

OK, I'll bite: weren't we on the same side in WWII? So technically wouldn't it be more along the lines of "we saved your asses in WWII"?

Posted by: lizzieborden at July 3, 2009 2:32 PM

I have never travelled on Independence Day, ever. We usually have a big-ass family barbecue (the Irish-Catholic side of the family, so when I say "big-ass" I mean it) and blow up the probably illegal fireworks that my uncles bought. No ER visits yet, surprisingly.

Posted by: Mimi at July 3, 2009 2:37 PM

BarbadoSlim - although Joseph Kennedy (and who knows how many other Americans) might have wished it were otherwise, you were actually on the same side as us Brits in WW2. But hey, have a great Independence Day!

Posted by: Toby at July 3, 2009 2:39 PM

Apropos of nothing....my 2 yr. old niece is developing this amazing speech impediment which causes her to pronounce words horribly wrong.

Example: Gora = Cereal & Dora = Water

Anyway, her mom has been trying to get her to say "Peace out Dude" and make a peace sign hand symbol for a while now (she thought it'd be cute for some reason). She finally said it today....well, sort of...

Her pronunciation: "Peace out Jew!" with a full on Nazi Salute....no lie

Yay for anti-semitism!!

Posted by: ashes at July 3, 2009 2:39 PM

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Posted by: Toby at July 3, 2009 2:39 PM

Ha! riiight, typical liberals propaganda, those of us who were on the ground KNOW what went down. It was America versus everybody else. And we kicked everybody's ass.

*cue me some Star Spangled Banner the Wu re-mix, Phil*

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 3, 2009 2:47 PM

Fried dough. There really is nothing better than a frisbee sized piece of deep fried goodness covered in powdered sugar and cinnamon. Which I can't eat anymore thanks to my stupid damn pancreas. Connecticut however, in it's quest to destroy all good food has places that make fried dough pizza, which is an abomination.

Posted by: Mrcreosote at July 3, 2009 3:01 PM

Yay, something to do! But being of the Canadian persuasion, I don't have much to add. But if Bslim really wants to discuss history, perhaps we should further discuss the War of 1812? It's one our favourites up here in "we-have-to-work-this-Friday-because-our-holiday-was-on-Wednesday" Canada...

Posted by: Xtreme at July 3, 2009 3:02 PM


BSlim - isn't Barbados known as Little England? Maybe it is time for the couch. Otherwise, I'm down with your Anglo-phobic fist-pumping, whether it is historically incorrect or otherwise.

All I can remember of the 4th of July in Jersey was that it marked the arrival of the tourist season at the shore.

Here in Indiana, where I can buy beer and fireworks at the grocery store, the 4th just seems like an excuse to get blasted and blow shit up. Also, since we like to keep our edge on the national obesity charts, the day is yet another chance for biscuits and gravy, for giant slabs of meat and beans, and for a grotesque assortment of cakes, pies, and stuff, all fruit flavored.

Posted by: Lance at July 3, 2009 3:03 PM

No travels for Independence Day here, either. My entire family lives in Pennsylvania, and we get together for grilling, drinking, and shooting off our own fireworks. It does suck, though, that we have to go out-of-state to get the good fireworks. Curse you, PA, and your disapproval of fun things like crazy big fireworks and selling alcohol in grocery stores. (Not really related, but a pain in the ass nonetheless.)

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at July 3, 2009 3:03 PM

Aw, man. I really wanted to be in the US for Independence Day this year. I've been there twice and it's been AWESOME. Really, out of all the American things we imitate here, we couldn't copy the debauchery of drink, burgers and fireworks that you guys do on your independence day?

We get a day off and a parade. School kids walking down the streets with some marching bands (that bit is cool). Not even floats or anything. It's boring as hell. I want fireworks, dammit.

And I want American bbq food. No one does a BBQ like Americans.

So, you know, I hope the people at the USCIS that still haven't approved my visa choke on their burgers. *sob*

Posted by: figgy at July 3, 2009 3:05 PM

Oh, BSlim! I *heart* you. Happy Independence day, dude.

Lay that beat down, Phil. We gotta get it rockin' all up in this joint, yo.

In *my* part of NJ, where I pretend White Asstle doesn't exist anyway, we have a lovely lovely fireworks display in pretty much every town. The one in my town I can see from my yard, so I can get drunk in the privacy of my own home and not have to deal with stupid traffic. Tomorrow night, we'll go over to the show they have a few towns over, which is pretty huge and awesome for a smallish town. There's probably going to be a BBQ each day. Mostly, I plan to consume lots of Sapphire & tonic and sleep, read, and watch movies. I don't believe in traveling (far) on holidays, because there are already too many crazies on the road. I think a couple of friends are going down the shore, which.... good luck with that, guys. I'll text you.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at July 3, 2009 3:07 PM

am I the only one who is bitter that southern cali banned all the good fireworks? cause of potential fire hazards? whatever cali... we're suppossed to be the "crazy" state remember...
oh well... I live 10 min from the crappiest place on earth... so I pretty much get to see fireworks every day...

Posted by: Tammers at July 3, 2009 3:10 PM

I'm pretty sure I've commented on the laser light show at Stone Mountain Park in Atlanta before (shout-out to Jay!), but it's extra hokey and insufferably patriotic on the 4th of July Independence Day. Although there are no big plans this year, we've had a semi-tradition in years past of going to amusement parks on I.D. (Great America, Cedar Point, etc.) -- they're surprisingly uncrowded on an otherwise "off" day. As for roadside gustatory delights and other quaint parochialisms....there are too damn many to list. Fried Snickers bars at our county and state fairs (later this month) are off-the-charts disgusting. People are weird everywhere.

Posted by: Che Grovera at July 3, 2009 3:12 PM

It was America versus everybody else. And we kicked everybody's ass.

*cue me some Star Spangled Banner the Wu re-mix, Phil*
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Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 3, 2009 2:47 PM

Ummm, technically speaking, I believe it was the Canadians that saved everybody's asses. Happy Independence Day! Here's to not speaking Japanese or German as a national language.

Posted by: admin at July 3, 2009 3:22 PM

California: We don't celebrate the bourgeois Independence Day, instead we celebrate Comrade's Day with tofu, arugula, and BBQ free range aborted fetuses. After an afternoon of surfing and obligatory gay orgies we settle in to listen to the Grateful Dead, fondle harbor seals, and smoke joints rolled out of pages torn from bibles.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at July 3, 2009 3:27 PM


Now that is just gross. Every knows you can't roll a joint with paper ripped from a Bible. It is too stiff! I know this from Jersey.

More seriously, have any of us been describing a bourgeois vision here? That ain't the word I have in mind when I survey the lines at Kroger.

Posted by: Lance at July 3, 2009 3:31 PM

July 4th has always just been my bro's birthday to me. And I very nearly forgot to send him a card. I'm sure you're all relieved to know I got to the post box in time. Phew.

Also, I wonder what would happen if we tried to have an England Day. Other than the Irish one upping us with their own day and us being all ashamed to be English but getting shit faced anyway and waking up with a tattoo of the Queen on our butt...Or we could all sit around and drink tea and eat scones...Mmm scones.

Posted by: Carrie at July 3, 2009 3:35 PM

California: Not buying fireworks that are in any way fun or dangerous because this whole stupid fucking state is kindling.

That would be the same for my state, New Mexico. But we just outlawed cockfighting a year or two ago, it's not that hard to get fireworks. And I say that as someone who's entire town almost burned down in the Ciero Grande back in 2000.

Posted by: George at July 3, 2009 3:40 PM

To be honest, Mr. Stardust and I have never taken an Independence Day road trip until today. We've got a yearly pass to all Florida State Parks, so we're going to some natural springs today. But tomorrow, we aren't doing much of anything. There is a great fireworks display at the Castillo de San Marcos, but when you live in the oldest city in the United States fireworks displays for Independence Day tend to be packed asshole to elbow.

Posted by: stardust savant at July 3, 2009 3:45 PM

Thanks admin, I was hoping someone would figure that out! Being Independence Day and all, I've been a little hesitant about pointing shit like that out, I'm guessing our neighbors to the south might already be just a wee bit tipsy, and I can already feel a virtual fist fight coming on...

Posted by: Xtreme at July 3, 2009 3:47 PM

As you move North up California, the Subways that carry pepperjack cheese and Jalapeno Cheddar bread become progressively more and more scarce. By the time you reach San Francisco, the employees don't even know what you're talking about...

Posted by: DylanL at July 3, 2009 3:55 PM

Xtreme, I think talking about the war of 1812 is a fabulous idea. Remind me: who lost that one again?

Everyone wants our maple goodness, but it's just *SO* hard to get it . . .

Posted by: Lauren at July 3, 2009 3:56 PM

Well, Connecticut does suck in that the "package" stores (we aren't allowed to acknowledge in public that we buy liquor) are closed ridiculously early, closed on Sundays, and it's actually an anomaly that this year we can buy liquor on Independence Day because it falls on a Saturday.

On the plus side, we can be trusted to pump our own gas and we are allowed to buy fireworks. Freedom baby!

Posted by: Cindy at July 3, 2009 4:00 PM

Down here in Chile, it's business as usual.

Enjoy the food and fireworks, folks.

Posted by: Angus at July 3, 2009 4:07 PM

My Independence Day:

Sunny - Walking around empty hallways at the multiplex where I work.

Rainy - Trying my best to stay sane while the multiplex is packed with every malcontent that has the day off.

Had to pick a job where I work every holiday. But I do plan on breaking in my friend's new kegerator once I punch out.

Posted by: Jim at July 3, 2009 4:17 PM

Everyone wants our maple goodness, but it's just *SO* hard to get it...

Oh Canada, you tease. You're so cold.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at July 3, 2009 4:19 PM

Figgy, You're going to get SOME kind of holiday out of all the fun down there, aren't you? Even if it's something like the old Soviet May Day, I say: Any excuse for a party.

BTW, some night you should sneak out and paint one of the tanks Godtopus blue. And then maybe drive it around for awhile. Like up to Texas. Point the barrel at the border guardhouse and say, "People with blue tanks don't need no stinkin' green cards, now, do they?"

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at July 3, 2009 4:19 PM

We headed to Cincinnati last year over Independence Day weekend. This year we are heading to St. Louis for 5 days. I'm off work every year this time for 2 weeks so we try to pack in stuff to do. I don't go back to work until July 20, SOOOOO HAPPY!

Happy Independence Day, Pajibans!

Posted by: TylerDFC at July 3, 2009 4:19 PM

California: Not buying fireworks that are in any way fun or dangerous because this whole stupid fucking state is kindling

reservations, cough, cough, reservations ...

Posted by: Soylent Green is Sheeple at July 3, 2009 4:23 PM


Although the War of 1812 is fun to recall for Canadian national pride, I remember speaking with an American friend, explaining why Quebec is a distinct society in Canada. After a brief summary of the Seven Years War, her conclusion was "Ahhh, so Canada lost its revolutionary war. That explains so much about you guys."

Ever since I've been a little subdued about comparing the celebration of Canada Day to Independence Day.

Posted by: Gentleman Farmer at July 3, 2009 4:24 PM

explaining why Quebec is a distinct society in Canada

Where's this "Quebec" you're referring too? admin is in Saskatchewan and I'm in Alberta, so just add Manitoba and British Columbia and we're good. Oh, and Newfoundland. Them boys is fun to drink with!

Posted by: Xtreme at July 3, 2009 4:38 PM

Well, OJR is mostly right when describing the more rural areas of our great state. For example, in my hometown, the grand tradition is to drive the 20 miles to Indiana and stock up on illegal fireworks and dynamite for home firework displays in the week leading up to the fourth. Also, shooting jumbo bottle rockets at each other after drinking all morning is a favored pastime of the locals.

Posted by: battgirl at July 3, 2009 4:40 PM

Oh jeez, I apologize for all the States-baiting we're doing...it's kinda hard for us Canadians since we haven't quite figured out our national identity - except that we're NOT AMERICAN! But we love you. Well, we love the PajibanAmericans...and maybe a few others.

So, in conclusion...have a GREAT DAY!

Posted by: replica at July 3, 2009 4:41 PM

Wow, there sure are a lot of Canadians in this US Independence Day thread.

Everyone I know here in Ontario headed up to cottage country on Wednesday and they're not coming back until Sunday. I hate the cottage (effing mosquitos and constantly being slightly damp), so I'm not leaving until tomorrow - but I look forward to visiting Webber's (road-side burger shack outside of Orillia). Compulsory cottage-going activity!

I have never been to a real American BBQ but I would really, really like to. It sounds epic. Please invite me to one.

Posted by: malechai at July 3, 2009 4:53 PM

*ahem* Xtreme, I believe you forgot something. Like oh, I don't know, Nova freakin' Scotia?! Believe me, we Cape Bretoners give our Newfoundland neighbours a run for their money in the drinking department!

Also, we should keep Quebec. Or at least Montreal--Jeremy's one of us, eh.

Posted by: meaux at July 3, 2009 5:03 PM

Um, no one won the war of 1812. Seriously, the Treaty of Ghent basically said "let's just forget that ever happened". This is why Canadians will never admit that the Americans won, and why Americans forgot that Canada was even there.

We were going to have a Canada Day dinner the other night, but the plans fell through. Basically we were just going to pour gravy on everything.

As for my July 4 travels, my brother and I got a shitload of fireworks for sibling bonding time and are going up the Washington (state, not DC) coast. We have fireworks with names like The Vengeful Texan, Irish Delight, and Vivid Conception. Let freedom explode.

Posted by: meg at July 3, 2009 5:05 PM

Isn’t it great that on Independence Day that cunt from Wasilla is taking it on the chin?

Posted by: Guess Who! at July 3, 2009 5:07 PM

In Cocoa Beach, FL (where we launched Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, whoohoo!) you can buy good fireworks, but you have to sign a paper stating you're using them only to scare off "nuisance birds."

Later that night, at 1AM on the beach, there must have been some damned annoying fowl harassing people...

Posted by: bluesilver at July 3, 2009 5:13 PM

I've never done any traveling, or anything exciting at all, really, for the Fourth. But tomorrow I get to experience one of NY's lovely quirks: free concert in Central Park (Jenny Lewis!). Soon to be followed/accompanied by getting smashed and making out with strangers, another perk NYC graciously provides.

Posted by: SaBrina at July 3, 2009 5:18 PM

meaux, I've never met a Blue Noser that WASN'T fun to drink with. As for Quebec, I'm not saying the west should let them leave or kick them out, it's just a long term indifference I've had for, um... *thinking*... for about, ever, I guess.

As for the War of 1812, it's not about who won or lost, it's about who lit what shit on fire. Thats all.

Posted by: Xtreme at July 3, 2009 5:19 PM

Oh Canada, you tease. You're so cold.

Not on the west coast, baby! We hardly get any snow. And right now, my patio is a lovely 82.4 F and features sliced watermelon, a book, and very little clothing.

Posted by: Lauren at July 3, 2009 5:25 PM

My favorite regoional quirk is that in North Carolina there are a lot of stores that sell Cheerwine. Here in Florida there is exactly one that I know of.

Hey PaddyDog, did you know that in Florisa some cities have ordinances against titty bars? Yep, really. But no matter where you go in Florida there is a church on every corner. In my tiny farming town of less than 1000 people there are 14 churches. I don't even know how if those chuches even manage to fill up the pews. Of course, none of them are Catholic so we have to drive into the Oldest City to go to Mass.

Posted by: stardust savant at July 3, 2009 5:29 PM

instead we celebrate Comrade's Day

I thought that said Conrad's Day, and I got SO EXCITED.

Posted by: SaBrina at July 3, 2009 5:32 PM

Not on the west coast, baby! We hardly get any snow. And right now, my patio is a lovely 82.4 F and features sliced watermelon, a book, and very little clothing.

Canada has a West Coast? I thought Alaska took up all your West Coast. Although the picture you're painting of the West Coast is very enticing indeed, Lauren.

Posted by: George at July 3, 2009 5:33 PM

It must be so cool to celebrate Independence Day in when the weather is nice! Ours is in September, and it always rains. Blah!

Posted by: Cuca at July 3, 2009 5:44 PM

Never done any traveling on the 4th. Grew up in Indiana, so getting fireworks was never a problem. In Ann Arbor we made magic brownies for our barbeque, but I doubt that's an Ann Arbor-specific thing (that was a crazy night btw, copious quantities of alcohol and pot brownies are actually kind of a bad combination). Basically in the midwest you just get together with a group of people and grill burgers and eat various side dishes and deserts and drink yourselves stupid and then light things on fire in someone's driveway. Yes, it's true, we Americans do indeed know how to party.

Posted by: s. pisaster at July 3, 2009 5:45 PM

Here's a diversion to chat about:

The unfounded idolism of the following on this website:

1. Cohen Brothers
2. Seth Rogen
3. Judd Apatow
4. Tina Fey
5. Asshole actors that have co-starred with Will Farrell or Steve Carrell
6. Alec Baldwin
7. South Park
8. There Will Be Blood
9. Christian Bale
10. Napoleon Dynamite

And begin........

Posted by: chimichanga at July 3, 2009 5:55 PM

Canada has a West Coast? I thought Alaska took up all your West Coast.

This eez funny . . . right, George? Right? Please be making a funny.

Posted by: Lauren at July 3, 2009 6:00 PM

And in "appreciating our independence" news, from today's AP:

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin made a surprise announcement Friday that she is resigning from office at the end of the month, raising speculation that she would focus on a run for the White House in the 2012 race.

Leaving party affiliation aside, am I the only one who thinks this particular candidate might benefit from a couple more years of actual, you know, experience in public office?

Fuck it. I've been president of my HOA for two whole years now and a blue shirt really sets off my eyes on television. Apparently, I'm qualified to run for president. One drawback, however: No one in my immediate family has done something hideously inconsistent with my personal politics in the last few years.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at July 3, 2009 6:12 PM

To add to the Canadian ethnocentrism, in Canada for Canada Day (aka 2 days ago), we serve up multiculturalism, with a dash of fireworks and a whole lotta drunk.

Posted by: Agente Provocatrice at July 3, 2009 6:18 PM

I've been president of my HOA for two whole years now and a blue shirt really sets off my eyes on television. Apparently, I'm qualified to run for president.

If I've waged a guerrilla war against my HOA for the last two years, am I qualified to lead the resistance that overthrows your reign of terror? I mean, I have asthma and I can almost see Mexico from my house, so I'm like Che all over again.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at July 3, 2009 6:18 PM

Ah, yes, PaddyDog, as a Wisconsinite, I can testify to the glorious cheese curds sold at hokey and garish shops along Hwy 94. Frequently, these juxtapose tents or sheds that sell fireworks, although (unless the law has changed in the three years I've lived in Minnesota) we're not allowed to let them off in the privacy of our homes. So, of course, all my neighbors would let off their illicit fireworks at once and hope none of us would get pissed enough to call the cops. Great times.

Posted by: bonnie at July 3, 2009 6:19 PM

Eyvi: Dude, they're Americans. Haven't you ever heard that joke that ends, "And America didn't know what 'the rest of the world' meant."?

On Canada Day I gave people rides on my horse. And only because my mother's friends were over, so I actually got a break from the constant free labour I'm doing until I can move to Toronto this August.

Also, didn't we Canadians burn down the White House at some point?

Posted by: Cuno at July 3, 2009 6:25 PM

@SLW: At a minimum, if you can see Mexico from your house, I'll appoint you as my administration's drug czar and throw in an ambassadorship to Central America. (Central America is a country, isn't it? Or am I thinking of South America? Which one is the country and which one is part of Mexico again?)

There's only one question on the exam: What news publications do you take?

(Hint: The answer is "All of them.")

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at July 3, 2009 6:26 PM

didn't we Canadians burn down the White House at some point?

Nah, you burned down White Castle during the infamous Battle of Buffalo.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at July 3, 2009 6:28 PM

Well, a castle's even better than a house, isn't it?

Posted by: meaux at July 3, 2009 6:35 PM

@socalled: That exam sounds like gotcha journalism to me. Real American candidates only get their news from the Bible and the radio. And although Mexico might exist, I find the evidence compelling that South America is an absurd liberal myth, much like the moon.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at July 3, 2009 6:39 PM

right on meaux!
this nova scotian just recovered from an epic, albeit rainy, canada day.
no fireworks, but plenty of drinks.

Posted by: samma at July 3, 2009 6:39 PM

I just had a vision of the Canadian Contingent dancing with bottles of maple syrup to the syncopation of "Never Gonna Get It" by En Vogue.

Then I went back to drinking beer, checking on my gigantic pot of chili, and getting ready to go watch some STUFF BLOW UP. This would follow up last night's activities of square dancing to Dexy's Midnight Runners, wondering why the President of my HS class was wearing a baseball uni at 2am, and speculating whether the bartender at an empty bar who wouldn't let us use their loo was really Julia Sweeney as Pat.

Michael Bay approves of my holiday.

Posted by: Stacy D at July 3, 2009 6:41 PM

You know a state where fireworks are not a big deal on Independence Day? Alaska. At the beginning of July, it doesn't get dark enough for fireworks really, so we make up for it on New Years Eve.

Posted by: brenia at July 3, 2009 6:48 PM

Argh, what is with the rain these days, samma? It's just getting ridiculous! Ah well, at least we can stay in our homes and drink. Cheers!

Posted by: meaux at July 3, 2009 6:57 PM

"Florida: Urban planning equals 3-5 titty bars punctuated by an evangelical church, then repeat."

Paddydog, not in my county. A few years back the Sheriff and the State's Attorney teamed up and chased all of the adult businesses out. Now I have to drive all the way to Tampa or Orlando to get my freak on. Sigh ...

Posted by: The Wanderer at July 3, 2009 7:00 PM

New Jersey: No “secret sauce” on White Castles reducing a previously delicious snack to a steamed unknown substance on bread.

Oh, Jersey. You get more and more gross every year.

Don't blame us. We didn't come up with the most disgusting fast food menu in the history of America. Hamburgers steamed on onions sold by the case? Sacks of chicken rings? Fish nips? Ewww...

Thank God we don't have any near this part of NJ.

Posted by: Robert at July 3, 2009 7:01 PM

I'm in Northern VA. And I don't know much about it here, we're so bland. I think the DC and MD crowd think of us as the rich, snooty, white bread assholes of the DC area. Yeah!

Posted by: kayla at July 3, 2009 7:03 PM

@ malechai: I've developed a strategy to avoid getting my blood sucked clean out of my body by mosquitoes. The minute I get to my cottage, fashion a makeshift Haz-Mat suit made from the one sweater I ever bring and the leftover Webber's wrappers. I run like the wind into the cottage. Then, I root through my duffel bag for my bikini. I put that on, and then, bracing myself, I run down the stairs, across the doc and into the lake. I ensure I am completely submerged. Then I don't emerge until it's time to go home.

Life-threatening? Possibly. Impossible? Definitely. Effective? better than abstinence.

(Webber's RULES!)

Posted by: Ling at July 3, 2009 7:07 PM

We can all live in peace and harmony, or you people can continue to disparage the great name of White Castle. Long before Harold and Kumar showed those burgers were mana from heaven. Plus the damn building is in the shape of a castle. We need more buildings in the shape of other things.

Posted by: Mrcreosote at July 3, 2009 7:14 PM

We need more buildings in the shape of other things.

The problem isn't that buildings aren't shaped like things, it's that they are all shaped like the same thing. Every city in the world is a collection of enormous concrete erections.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at July 3, 2009 7:25 PM

word to the lobster rolls at maine mcd's. also to the red hot dogs. those are effing delicious and i wish they existed elsewhere, especially in the godforsaken desert. oh well.

here in az, i can really say we celebrate the 4th by watching *very* safely regulated fireworks displays on mountains far away, and by eating mexican food, because we are just that awesome. i do miss being able to set off driveway sparklers, snakes, whistling dixies and other various and sundry splodey-type things though. oh well. at least we can buy the jack in the same aisle as the coke at the grocery store to dull the pain of disappointment, unlike back in va/dc. good times.

Posted by: betsy at July 3, 2009 7:30 PM

Every city? I'd think just the Emerald City, unless your penis has painfully sharp edges.

Posted by: SaBrina at July 3, 2009 7:31 PM

My favorite 4rth of July memories is of my dog Jack (yes we had a Jill) who loved to eat fireworks. Anytime we wanted to blow up the big fireworks we would have to put the launch pad on top of a gate post and Jack would go running after them fireworks like crazy. We had to hold him back anytime we set fire to farting chickens and shooting tanks. By the end of the night all his whiskers would be burnt off.

Here in the great state of Texas I’m floating down a dry creek bed, and it’s a nice 102 degrees at 6:00, I shit you not- and the bad thing about it is that it isn’t that hot yet because it’s not yet August. We blew up our fireworks last night before the cops came out in force for the 4rth (because the county is on burn-ban).

PS. Ling, use a Listerine spray bottle, again I shit you not the mosquitoes will be gone.

Posted by: Jasper Buckleman at July 3, 2009 7:44 PM

I mean, I have asthma and I can almost see Mexico from my house, so I'm like Che all over again.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at July 3, 2009 6:18 PM

How exactly does being California's answer to Sarah Palin (Sarita Palinho?) make you like Che, stipe42 SLW?

You sound more like Dani to me...Dani California!

Posted by: Che Grovera at July 3, 2009 8:23 PM

You'uns Canucks best be on yer guard when yer drivin' through West-By-God on your way to the Redneck Riviera of Myrtle's Beach fer ... whatever yer summer holiday is ('n don deny it, I seed yer Homotario and yer Queerbec plates all over the innerstate), see'n's how yer accents sound kinder British to us and some of us up in the hollers ain't got the werd the Revolutineery War is over yit.

*loads both barrels*

Got Bless Amurka.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at July 3, 2009 9:44 PM

Hey The Wanderer, I didn't know there was another Floridian active on this site! I don't go to titty bars since I'm a hetero woman, but if I did the closest place would be Jacksonville.

When I used to work in Jacksonville I had co-workers that would go to titty bars for lunch. And then prowl for cougars at happy hour. Yeah....I don't work at that place any more.

Posted by: stardust savant at July 3, 2009 10:33 PM

Thank God we don't have any near this part of NJ.
Posted by: Robert at July 3, 2009 7:01 PM

Hear hear.

(I won't mention the one in P-town, or the one in Clifton, or the one on 17 in... Hasbrouck Heights? Or the one on 59 in Nanuet that I drive past every day on my way home from work. I will continue to pretend they don't exist.)

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at July 3, 2009 10:41 PM

SaBrina- Trust me, i live in Seattle and there is definitely a very sharp edge on the space needle, mainly in the form of a 25-foot spike on the top.

Although, on that note, i actually live a little less than a block from said phallic symbol and will spend my independence day in the traditional Seattle manner; getting sloppy-drunk on jager-bombs and yelling "our country is better than yours and you guys better stop grabbing my ass or i'll cram that noise-maker down your throat"-themed obscenities while watching the fireworks shooting from the top of that big silver dick like a fiery orgasm. Here's to that very special blend of Homophobia and xenophobia that only the good old U.S. of A. can create! Go America!

Posted by: smatt584 at July 3, 2009 10:41 PM

I'm sorry to interrupt this diversion with another diversion, but...didn't we recently do a diversion on songs for our funerals? I've scanned the archives and recent lists and can't find it. Did I hallucinate it?

Posted by: Louise at July 3, 2009 10:44 PM

Well, crap.. I have lived in Texas 9 years and while I have never had my husband be asked to "check his gun at the door", I know that most people (I almost said "folks"- urg)just drink copious amounts of beer and shoot fireworks off. That being said, we are celebrating the 4th by having our first baby sitter in the Gibaby's 9 months of life. So, I am equal parts nervous and excited. What do adults do without kids these days? I seem to have forgotten...

Posted by: legib at July 3, 2009 10:45 PM

Ohhh, this is a day for celebration, not to bicker, or to argue, about who killed who, or who burnt what, or that in both world wars the Americans showed up late and took credit for the victories after us Canadians and other allies did all the dirty work..

Canada never had a revolutionary war to lose - you never heard of an amicable separation? And absolutely we've got a west coast - and it's glorious right now. There's much scanty clothing and outdoor dining, and let's not forget drinking! (Moment of silence for those on the east coast stuck indoors for their Canadia Day drinking)..

Ahh, the hell with it. Dear USA-ians: Happy Eating, Drinking, and Patriotic Blowing Shit Up Day, all you Yank-jibans. Please Don't Invade Us. Sincerely, the rest of the world.

PS - thanks for getting Sarah Palin to resign - just when we though electing Obama was good, you have to go all awesome on us. You're making us blush.

Posted by: lordhelmet at July 3, 2009 10:47 PM

Louise - http://www.pajiba.com/music/funeral-songs.php

In case that link disappears when I post this, click on the "Music" tab at the top and it's the 5th article down.

Posted by: Lainey at July 3, 2009 10:56 PM

Che: I knew the instant I wrote that analogy that I'd attract your attention. Touche, sir, touche. (That's French for "inappropriate fondling")

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at July 3, 2009 11:07 PM

Thank you, Lainey! I was searching in the wrong place!

Posted by: Louise at July 3, 2009 11:28 PM

goddamnit, lainey, no blue, no blue! i have to click and then i find more to click and i've spent the last 30 minutes listening to tom waits and i have a crick in my damn neck now and and and I NEED A HUG!

Posted by: gp at July 3, 2009 11:35 PM

Thanks Lainey, i was happy, now i'm sad :(

Posted by: smatt584 at July 4, 2009 12:10 AM

My family never traveled much for the 4th of July. The most we ever did was to go to the lakeside home of one of my dad's co-workers, where the host would barbeque all day, my dad would get stinking drunk, my mom would get pissed off, and the kids would get sick from too much sun and too little food cause we would wait all day for said grillmaster to finish his BBQ masterpiece. Ah, good times.

I have an invite to attend the local university's outdoor summer band concert tomorrow night and then watch the municipal fireworks show. I don't know if I'll go, cause listening to Sousa in sweltering heat with a bunch of strangers does not sound like a good time to me. But maybe I'm just a wimp; I don't like to get too far from my air conditioning.

Posted by: rlr260 at July 4, 2009 12:45 AM

As an American who lived in Canada (on the West Coast, too!), all I have to say about the rest of the world is this, a mantra which my fellow Americans discovered while living outside the country:

Bitches be jealous.

Posted by: meg at July 4, 2009 1:09 AM

Okay, so in Ohio you have to . . . um . . . vote for old spacemen and hope Lebron hates big pretty cities that don't sit on the shit-filled boil of America's coccyx.

This is vague and unhelpful. Now I write:

So America is a normal person on their hands and knees, right? Alaska is obviously the head jutting out in fear of the doctor's finger that will penetrate Maine or Massachusetts, depending on the gender (spare me ladies, I've seen a Pap Smear; just go with the metaphor). Florida is the knees. Texas and the rest of that shit is the overfed boobies/gut/generalfattycraziness going on down there, or the big stuffed panda bear you get to squeeze while the PHD examines your sinuses rectally. Southern California is the fear-filled, weight-bearing fists.

Now guess what the doctor found? A giant aqua-feces lesion on the base of your spine that you inexplicably named things like "Superior" and "Erie." Eliminate it.

You're welcome, America.

Posted by: Kballs at July 4, 2009 3:50 AM

Hahaha smatt584 I meant the Wizard of Oz emerald city. I'd link to a picture but I am very drunk.

Posted by: SaBrina at July 4, 2009 4:42 AM

Thank God we don't have any near this part of NJ.
Posted by: Robert at July 3, 2009 7:01 PM

Hear hear.

(I won't mention the one in P-town, or the one in Clifton, or the one on 17 in... Hasbrouck Heights? Or the one on 59 in Nanuet that I drive past every day on my way home from work. I will continue to pretend they don't exist.)

Oh, Anna,

I intentionally try to plan my trips around not going anywhere near these locations. It's even harder when my NY-state living brother frequents the Nanuet location for a combo meal of chicken rings (in a bag), mozzarella sticks (in a bag), and those pulled pork sandwiches. I have very little reason to leave my safety bubble of 17 only up to the Garden State Plaza. I don't do toll roads in Jersey unless someone else is driving and have never had a reason to voluntarily venture into Clifton, P-town, or Hasbrouck Heights. Leave me to my suburban/backwoods region (depending on which set of relatives I intend to visit) with a thousand McDonalds and no White Castles in sight.

Posted by: Robert at July 4, 2009 5:55 AM

Off topic much? I thought this was a thread on regional food quirks.

Let's just hope at the end of his term, President Obama was everything you wished for, people. And you over there, yeah you Brits, Canadians and the like, we the people of these United States would happily stay out of your business, go talk to our blessed government and see how far you get.

Posted by: Lori at July 4, 2009 6:23 AM

No Lauren, it was a mistake. Turns out, Alaska only takes up the part of the west coast that's too cold to have any fun at. My bad, I was just lazy.

On another note, good morning everyone, and happy Independence Day.

Posted by: George at July 4, 2009 7:02 AM

I mean, I have asthma and I can almost see Mexico from my house, so I'm like Che all over again.

That's my line, motherfucker. I live in New Mexico, and am only... 100 miles from a plane that can take you the remaining 300 miles to El Paso....

Fuck, I live in the middle of nowhere.

Posted by: George at July 4, 2009 7:10 AM

Whoa, Lori--belligerent much? I missed the part where the Brits and Canucks asked you guys to "stay out of our business." Dude, we're all friends here!

And meg, there are parts of your great nation that I'd love to see. Places that'd be really cool to visit. But honestly, this bitch do not be jealous.

Posted by: meaux at July 4, 2009 8:01 AM

Hey, why is it that whenever, they only ever talk about North Florida. I live just south of Ft. Lauderdale, in a place all you Canadians should know and love, Hollywood Beach.

Now, I don't wanna hear all you Canadians pissin and moanin about the US not wishing you a happy Canada day, because Hwood celebrates that shit EVERY YEAR! (Because here, for most of the year, the are more Canadians than Americans in our great, which was voted the best American city in 2007, because we cleaned our beach.)

Now, I went to Canada day once (by mistake) and there, on our glorious stage that is painted with sea creatures, was a man who looked like Gerard Depardieu in a black sequined shirt, speaking in French to a ton of over 55's who were very baffled. I mocked him, in the way ignorant Americans do, with my patented Frenchie laugh... and then HE DID IT! And the audience gave him a polite golf clap! That, I wish I knew french.

Then the singing started...

Anyway, South Florida is abit special, because aside from titty bars, we have pawn shops, liquor stores and car dealerships. Furthermore our churches come in at least 3 languages (English, Spanish and French/Creole... however Romanian also exists here in Hollywood.)

In closing, I believe the reason the rest of the country forgets about South Florida, is because your gonna fuckin move down here when you retire. Honestly, people goggle when I tell then I was born here, because no one ever is.

Posted by: Theresa at July 4, 2009 10:31 AM

Dear Meaux,

Up yours too. And do please stay out. Last thing we need here is another arrogant foreign tourist who can't find their was around.

Yours truly.

Posted by: Lori at July 4, 2009 10:43 AM

Kballs, We look just like Australia upside-down, don't we? Which makes perfect sense if you think about it ...

Somebody in my neighborhood decided to get the Fourth off to a raucous start by chainsawing some shit at 8:30 in the morning. If I can find out who it was, he's getting an M80 through the window at 2 a.m.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at July 4, 2009 10:44 AM

That was pretty great Theresa. I like to think I know the exact laugh you're referring to, but it's nigh impossible to spell. Are we both thinking the same one as the French chef from Little Mermaid?

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at July 4, 2009 10:46 AM

Robert, I am right there with you... I avoid three of those 4 (P-town, Clifton, and 17) like the plague. LIKE THE PLAGUE. (I take back roads to the GSP, and only if I can go on a weekday.) Unfortunately, my sister has lived in Jersey City for the last 10 years or so, and I have a friend who lives in Hasbrouck Heights; those are the only occasions on which I cannot avoid 17, and I have had those locations invade my eyeballs. Funnily enough, I worked in Nanuet for almost a year before I knew that one was there... someone I work with told me it was, and I looked on my way home that day, and sure enough, there it sits. I have never even had the slightest urge to stop in. I only know about the other 2 through the magic of Google.

P.S. Who let the troll in?

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at July 4, 2009 11:15 AM

Lori! Dude, what the hell?! Jeez, I neither want nor intend to stay out. You've got a fun country to shop in, some seriously beautiful scenery, and many, many lovely and welcoming compatriots.

But don't worry--when I do visit, I promise to steer clear of your delightful self.

Posted by: meaux at July 4, 2009 11:45 AM

Ling -
Pit stop... but Webber's is now 1/2 hour away!!!

Yeehaw!!!

Posted by: malechai at July 4, 2009 11:45 AM

Fuck, I live in the middle of nowhere.

George's house: it's not the taint of the universe, but you can see it from there.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at July 4, 2009 12:24 PM

@Optimus Rhyme Yes!!! That would in fact be the laugh I was talking about! Honestly, I didn't really believe people laughed like that...

If you will excuse me, I am driving to my parents, having lunch with their friends (transplant from Geogia) so I get real Southern BBQ for lunch, then dinner at my friends (transplant from CT) and her husbands family (Cuban) for some burgers and lots (and lots) of alcohol. w00t!

Multi-somethingism rules!

Posted by: Theresa at July 4, 2009 12:27 PM

Sigh... I meant Georgia. My parents don't have friends from a country you've never heard of.

Posted by: Theresa at July 4, 2009 12:31 PM

meaux, my Canadian darling, you are welcome to come see me in The Jerz any old time. It gets short shrift an awful lot, but it's got beautiful areas too. It's not all big hair, factories, and shopping malls. Plus, close to NYC. We'd love to have you. (If ya know what I mean... *wink wink*)

Dear Lori,

Don't let the door hit you in the ass ... on second thought, do.

Sincerely,

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at July 4, 2009 12:35 PM

Lori: Geez, you woke up on the wrong side of the bitch today, didn't you.

meaux: I decree that next Bacon, I'll pick you and we'll have us a road trip on the way down! Yay!

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at July 4, 2009 12:49 PM

Good morning, USA.

To celebrate your birthday, even though I'm not partaking in the fireworks and BBQ you are enjoying,I will celebrate it the best way I know how:

I will make burgers, and then I will drink, and then I shall watch Independence Day.

YEAAAAAAAAA!

Posted by: figgy at July 4, 2009 12:50 PM

Thanks, AvB, I'd love to be had by you! *mwah* By the way, my parents visited an old friend in Jersey a few years back (not sure where, but it wasn't far from Atlantic City), and they thought it was just beautiful.

Road trip with Jerbear? That sounds incredibly fun--you're on, buddy! Meanwhile, I think I'll celebrate Independence Day a la figgy.

Posted by: meaux at July 4, 2009 1:03 PM

WHY IS IT RAINING? damn you, oklahoma, i was supposed tp be drinking all day (like those plans have changed)

also, did anyone see today's Rubes?
http://news.yahoo.com/comics/uclickcomics/20090704/cx_crrub_uc/crrub20090704

it just reminded me of pajiba. see, the fat dude in the inner tube is the latest offering from michael bay. the sharks are eloquents. HA!

*wakes and bakes*

Posted by: gp at July 4, 2009 1:25 PM

yes, i know how to spell "to".

Posted by: gp at July 4, 2009 1:26 PM

Oh Lori, you're a delight! Thanks for stopping by. No, it's cool, you don't need to come back later. We're good. Thanks though. Yep, ok, bye-bye.

Meaux & Jer, can you guys bring admin with you when you head down this way? I have no idea where you all live relative to each other and I'm not going to bother looking it up, because well, that just wouldn't be the American way of doing things. I'd prefer to remain ignorant. Ignorant AND proud of it!

And back on topic, I need to go buy some sparklers for tonight... You can buy fireworks all over the place in Northeast Ohio. As you drive out into the country parts, there a billboards up all along the farm areas advertising fireworks. I've never bought any, but I certainly hear & see them all around my neighborhood.

Posted by: Lainey at July 4, 2009 2:19 PM

Well Lainey, it's roughly akin to AvB in NJ swinging by to pick up Prisco in CA on her way to the party...but hell, admin'd be fun company on the road trip, so why not!

Posted by: meaux at July 4, 2009 2:43 PM

my independence day consist of going to visit my extended relatives thengoing form there to a highschool football area and watching fireworks listening to a band and getting recognized as Napolean Dynamite.

Posted by: Utah Dynamo at July 4, 2009 3:11 PM

i gotta hand it the canadians you guys have a kickass national anthem. i sorta love it as much as i like the american one.

Posted by: Utah Dynamo at July 4, 2009 3:15 PM

I like the American one too, Utah. Wouldn't want to try singing it though. The word "butcher" comes to mind.

Happy Independence Day, y'all!

Posted by: Lauren at July 4, 2009 3:58 PM

Well, whatever, I could probably make a quick swing over to the west coast for admin! We gonna party this bitch UP!

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at July 4, 2009 4:43 PM

I feel like this July 4th is more of a wake for America than a celebration for it...

I'm celebrating by staying the fuck inside. It's too Goddamn hot to be outside today. It was too hot to be outside yesterday when I moved a car and an engine.

Posted by: Eep at July 4, 2009 5:34 PM

It was too hot to be outside yesterday when I moved a car and an engine.

Quick tip: if you use the engine to move the car, the job is MUCH easier.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at July 4, 2009 5:45 PM

AvB: Thanks for the template! Everybody try it:

meaux, my Canadian darling, you are welcome to come see me in [West By-God] any old time. It gets short shrift an awful lot, but it's got beautiful [cars up on cinder blocks] too. It's not all [no teeth], [coal mines], and [moonshine ... er, not that there's anything wrong with moonshine]. Plus, close to [heaven]. We'd love to [smoke crystal meth with] you. (If ya know what I mean... [*in my pants*])

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at July 4, 2009 6:11 PM

Ha! Coal mines and moonshine? Why, , , I'd feel right at home there. Smoking crystal meth in your pants sounds like it could get a little painful for you, though...maybe we can think of something else to do in your pants?

Posted by: meaux at July 4, 2009 7:00 PM

meaux, I see what you did there with the punctuation, and I applaud you ... in my pants!

*clap clap clap*

Oh, wait ... I don't want that in my pants either ... um ...

Why don't I just take the damn things off?

There, that's better ... hey, why's everyone in the office looking at me funny?

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at July 4, 2009 8:23 PM

Stephen- You're just like those people who told us we should use a tow vehicle instead of pushing it :-P

Posted by: Eep at July 4, 2009 8:51 PM

Eep: Well, it is Independence Day ... you could have just strapped a rocket to the back.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at July 4, 2009 9:36 PM

Jet-Assisted Takeoff Unit.

God damn, I miss Granny's 12 Gauge.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at July 5, 2009 12:21 AM

Wow, damn. Geez, you go have a little Independence Day fun and you miss the bitchy troll. Good for me.

And hey, Commadaddy. You happen to be talking about my crystal meth lovin' home too. I think our town is fairly nice. I never see cars on cinder blocks, people with no teeth, or anyone making moonshine so maybe I'm not hanging with the right stereotypes. Hmm.

However, one thing we do have here that is quite fantastic and fits the theme of the thread is pepperoni rolls. Look 'em up. They're amazing.

Posted by: AbbyNormal at July 5, 2009 12:32 AM

Well, I loved the time I stopped at a gas station just outside of downtown Cleveland and realized that they were selling pipes and hitters in a case by the cashier. Good times.

Being able to buy Mexican candy at any random stop in San Diego was pretty groovy. My boyfriend is Mexican and has me hooked on dried mangos with chili and lime. Yum!

And, anywhere between Saint Louis and Chicago, the dueling Cubs- Cardinals memorabilia and the insanely heated battles whenever a game between them is televised. Love : )

Posted by: Cherry at July 5, 2009 12:45 AM

INDEPENDENCE DAY IS THE BEST MOVIE EVER.

OK maybe not, but I do love the hell out of this movie.

"Vultures! They take and then they go!"

Posted by: figgy at July 5, 2009 1:47 AM

ha! figgy, i'm watching id4 too!

"i picked a hell of a day to quit drinking!"

Posted by: gp at July 5, 2009 2:21 AM

Florida: Urban planning equals 3-5 titty bars punctuated by an evangelical church, then repeat.

You forgot to add the part about a towing company/junkyard in between. Oh, and don't forget the trailer parks...can't have our white trash community panicking because they weren't mentioned.

Posted by: bignick at July 5, 2009 3:28 AM

figgy, you're breeding privileges have been revoked. Please go see your local doctor so he can administer the x-ray treatment to your reproductive organs.

ID4 is not a great movie. It IS what happens when 100 million dollars gets blown so idiots with a double digit IQ and a triple digit income can forget about their miserable lives for two hours. If you feel that is too harsh, just remember the freedom of speech allows me to say whatever I want, outside of wishing death on certain politicians.

If you want a good example of what ID4 has done, take a look at Transformers 2. Those are four hours of people's lives they can never get back.

Posted by: bignick at July 5, 2009 3:32 AM

Well Bignik, you can blame Jaws and Star Wars for T2 if you want to as well. They were the instigators for the sumer blockbuster. ID4 is more the ancestor of 2012, so when that comes out them you can bring your overly judgemental self back to recommend eugenics. Until then though just keep in mind T2 is 2 and a half hours long. The other hour and a half you spent in the theater, hey we don't need to know about that Pee Wee.

Posted by: Mrcreosote at July 5, 2009 9:48 AM

Shhhhh, Abby, dammit, if the world finds out about pepperoni rolls, like for instance the astonishing ones they make at Nonna's over on Burroughs, there'll be a run on them that will spark a panic here the likes of which haven't been seen since ... well, last week, prolly, somewheres in the world ... maybe Honduras (shout-out, figs, or are we allowed to be friends now that you aren't in the OAS anymore?). I've had to admonish ,daughter more than once about supplying her grad school friends in Hartford with black market pepperoni rolls.

Anyhoo, it true that the sights around our little slice of heaven seldom include the joys of rusted vehicles up on blocks or of large electrical appliances on the front porch, but you sure don't have to drive too far in several directions to discover that pleasing vista.

BTW, I'm still going to drag you out of your hacienda for a mini-Pajicon and night's entertainment some time. You may rest assured I am too old and too married to pose any threat of making you enjoy yourself TOO much.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at July 5, 2009 5:30 PM

Heh. Black market pepperoni rolls. Yeah, my family has spread them across the country as they moved away. However, they only share them with those they love and adore. It's still kind of wrong though.

Mmmm... Nonna's is awesome, isn't it? Shit. Now I want some cannoli. All of the food there reminds me of my own Nonna's cooking. Yum. One of the many reasons I miss her. Ya know, my dad was really lucky. He was telling me how his neighborhood (Second Ward/E. Brockway area)had the first pizzas in Motown prior to any shops because of all the Italian immigrants like our family.

Oh and I know you don't have to go far. Don't worry - I've seen some scary arsed shit. I actually don't claim much of WV beyond Morgantown. I frequent Pennsylvania, New York & Maryland way more than WV. It's funny how protective I am of it though. It's like an annoying sibling, I can hate on it but YOU (general you, not you-you) best shut your face.

I would love to have a mini-Bacon with you! You keep inviting me to 123, which I really like, but it's been bad timing for me. Unfortunately, I've been busy 'cause life keeps piling on the bullshit. I've been traveling back and forth caring for one of my sisters who is very sick right now. I'll be leaving again when she goes through a much needed surgery. Ugh. It's too bad you're too old and too married - my 27 year-old-self needs some enjoyment. Anyway, when we do hit the town, I'll be the tall redhead seeking whiskey sours.

Posted by: AbbyNormal at July 5, 2009 8:54 PM

bignik, you made Jeff Goldblum cry.

Me? I still love the hell out of that movie. LOVE IT TO BITS. Did you know there's a mini-Keanu in it? And Bill Pullman? And motherfucking Harvey Fierstein?

How DARE you.

Posted by: figgy at July 5, 2009 10:02 PM

Obviously you keep forgetting that there is a C in nick, but I digress. I did not go to see Transformers 2, because I have taste in movies (to some degree). While I like the mindless CGI flick as much as the next guy (that would be you figgy), even I have limits on what I will endure. Harvey Fierstein is an awesome actor and I loved seeing video of him as Edna Turnblad, however he was not Divine.

As for Jaws and Star Wars, you're forgetting one thing about those two in comparison to ID4. Jaws and Star Wars are actually good movies, not part of a megacorp's attempt to siphon funds from moronic sheep. Just remember Figgy, you are free to do as they tell you...

Posted by: bignick at July 5, 2009 10:17 PM

As for pizza rolls, you should try Gumby's pizza. There's one in Pennslyvania. Just look it up on the web. Great pepperoni rolls but the cheese rolls are frakkin' awesome.

Posted by: bignick at July 5, 2009 10:20 PM

Hey, when you start getting into pepperoni and cheese and sauces and veggies that is stromboli/calzone territory not strictly a pepperoni roll. The whole point of a great pepperoni roll is for the spicy oils from the pepperoni to seep and cook into the bread creating this amazing, amazing beast. Twice the amazing! It's that good! The best ones are the ones I make in my kitchen. Mostly because they're super fresh and I use really awesome pepperoni. And in a stick, none of that sliced crap.

bignick, I'm not sure what a pizza or cheese roll constitutes. 'Splainy? Is a pizza roll actually stromboli? Stomboli is long and oblongy like a pepperoni roll, calzones are more pocketish but they basically have the same ingredients. Is a cheese roll just a pepperoni roll with cheese? Or is it just cheese? I'm all regionally food confused.

Posted by: AbbyNormal at July 5, 2009 11:51 PM

bignick: baaaaaaaaaah!

Posted by: figgy at July 6, 2009 12:26 AM

And really, if you don't see the difference between Independence Day and Transformers 2, then I just feel sorry for you.

Posted by: figgy at July 6, 2009 12:28 AM

Abby, Very sorry about your sister and your tough situation. Your first 87 sours or so are on me. Well, the first one, at least.

"Tall redhead"? *ulp* Um, just a minute, I better do this now ...

*superglues wedding ring to finger*

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at July 6, 2009 1:17 AM