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Don't Get Me Started

By Tater Barley Banks | Posted Under Comment Diversions | Comments (197)



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“The Lottery is a tax on the mathematically illiterate.” — Glen Whitney quoted in The New Yorker

I was sitting at the bar one night when the nightly lottery drawing came on the TV. When it was over, a guy two stools down was lamenting his luck at having (surprise!) failed to win big at Powerball that night.

I thought I’d help the poor sap out.

“Tell you what,” I said to him, “I’ll make you a deal. Over the next year, you give me all the money you would have spent playing the lottery. At the end of the year, I’ll give you back 75 percent of it and we’ll call it a jackpot. You’ll be a winner, guaranteed!”

I thought it was an excellent offer. I was giving him much better odds and a bigger possible payout than he was likely to get anywhere else. When he hedged, I upped my payout offer to 80 percent. He still did not take me up on it. And neither did the other handful of idiots I gave the same proposal.

I don’t gamble. Never. No way, shape or form. No scratch-off, no office pool, no nothing, and I think people who do are — and I’m trying to be kind here — morons. While I can kind of see the semiintellectual challenge of playing poker or betting on the horses or pro football, I reserve special contempt for people who can’t even muster up the smarts to seek something more challenging than the simple games of pure chance — lotteries and slots and the like. Anyone who doesn’t understand you have a greater chance of being abducted by space aliens than hitting the Powerball is a fool.

I also acknowledge that many of these types really ARE fools: simply poor suckers who don’t have two brain cells to put together. So I reserve my utmost contempt for the states (and, I guess, provinces and other nations) whose job it has become to milk these saps for every penny they can get, using animatronic groundhogs and clever marketing straegies to vacuum the pockets of the not-so-bright citizenry in order to keep the budget sort of balanced and the state afloat.

This is all at odds with my generally social libertarian streak, which argues that people ought to be allowed to flush their money down the toilet however they want. My counterargument to it this is, “I don’t care if Grandma blows her SS check at Atlantic City, but she better damn sure not ask me to pay for her fucking presecription meds.”

And …

Geez, I can go on and on about this, can’t I? I can be a real prick about it. And don’t even get me started on the Olympics.

But that’s the point of this weekend diversion: to get you started. And I want you to go well beyond a mere pet peeve. Tell us which issue is guaranteed to turn you into a self-righteous flaming asshole. And then, please, be my guest and expound on it to the fullness of your self-righteous flaming assholiness.

And we’ll tell you what a prick you are.

Win-win!

TATER BARLEY BANKS is not to be trusted. He probably makes up everything he writes about himself, especially the stuff about living in West Virginia. Don’t be fooled. In truth, he lives in Pajibaland, where he speaks gibberish as , (TCFKAB), spends his time sitting on a park bench, eyeing little girls with bad intent, and is developing a 25-letter alphabet, now that his key doesn’t work. He has no blog, no Facebook page and no MySpace page, so don’t try to find him. If you’re so inclined, you can email Tater.









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Comments

The first thing that comes to my mind is the fucking Salvation Army. When somebody tells me they threw some money in their freaking kettles with their freaking bell ringers I get a little soap boxy.

a) They pay the bell ringers unless they are boy scouts or some shit. (Don't even get me started on the Boy Scouts.)

b) The Salvation Army is a RELIGION! And a woman cannot marry below her rank.

c)They money you give them to "help" people locally, really goes to the region which generally is as large as a state and is mostly used by their administration and for religious purpose. In my home town they would try to milk the good townsfolk out of a million bucks during the holiday season for their "homeless services". But when they submit their budget to the city when asking for grant funds, it would only be about $100,000.

d) I was once told by an English friend that the SA is only second to the Royal Family as the largest land owner in Great Britain.

e) I ran a homeless shelter for families for 7 years just 3 blocks away from the Salvation Army. They got more money from the state and the city than I did and provided less services. Plus they would send people to me for food when they had a huge food bank in their warehouse.

f) They don't let anyone who isn't "Salvation Army" (one of the uniformed people) speak to the media or public. I had to intervene for my counterpart at a meeting we were at because the tv crew was there and she couldn't talk on camera because she wasn't "Army."

I could go on all day. Bleh...hate them.

Posted by: wsapnin at December 12, 2009 5:52 PM

The decriminalization of marijuana.

Costs for law enforcement and those warehouses we call prisons go through the floor. Tax revenues go through the roof.

Government oversight means reliable quality control. Lots and lots and LOTS of people get lucrative employment to meet the demand.

Everything in American society--entertainment, the food industry, fashion, waiting in line at the DMV--would instantly get cooler and way more pleasant.

'Course, we'd all get even fatter than we are now; but it's likely we wouldn't care nearly as much, since we'd all be getting laid a lot more.

Don't even fucking get me started.

P.S. For the record, I haven't sucked a spliff since the Reagan administration...okay, okay, Bush 1. But I would be getting happy every weekend if it was legal.

Posted by: Jerce at December 12, 2009 5:55 PM

Anyone arguing for religion. I just think they're morons.

Posted by: Scully at December 12, 2009 5:56 PM

Heh. My dad always said that the lottery was "A voluntary tax on stupidity." I'll be back to get my Bitch on later tonight. Worky-worky.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at December 12, 2009 5:58 PM

I share your dim view of the lottery. I voted against the lottery referendum here in Georgia many years ago, to no avail. Yes, it funds the Hope scholarship, and Georgia's lottery has since been used as a blueprint for other states who want to do it "right".

Even done "right", though, it amounts to poor people funding the college education of the children of people of mostly better means. Is it a regressive tax? At the end of the day, no -- it isn't mandatory. But it is a cynical and morally bankrupt method of guaranteed revenue collection. Never in human history has the aggressively marketed promise of instant wealth not resulted in poor people lining up to take their shot, over and over again. And they know it.

Posted by: sansho1 at December 12, 2009 6:02 PM

Welcome back sir. Feeling feisty?

big picture: people who self righteously cling to ignorant or damaging beliefs in the face of a mountains of evidence to the contrary, then claim the I am the dupe for accepting the proof- see anti vaxers, 911 truthers, etc. Or make up some bullshit, pseudo-scientific "evidence" to support their claim, like that unspeakable dipshit that was dismantled by Rachel Maddow a few nights back who claimed to have a cure for homosexuality. Like it was some kind of fucking disease in the first place.

small picture:
people who don't pick up their own dog's shit. Congrats on looking after your animal, but part of the owner's obligation is to show some fucking courtesy to the rest of us. I need a new toothbrush now you cockwallet.

Posted by: Squirrelgripper at December 12, 2009 6:04 PM

The only thing more annoying than lotteries are the ads that honestly try to get people to buy lotto and scratch-off tickets as gifts. FUCKING GIFTS.

"Thanks Bob. You crapped out and bought a goddamn lottery ticket for my birthday. Real thoughtful there. I should just register at the gas station for my wedding then. That way, we might get that pack of Newports and copy of Bubble Butts magazine Sheila had her eye on!

You do realize that, on the very, very, veeeeery slim chance I do win, you are not getting shit."

Gaaaaah....

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 6:10 PM

The place I work at is one of those resto-bar combinations, and part of the job is waiting on a pair of tables next to the bar, as we all people who actually sit at the bar.

Anyway, I had a couple come in who, on top of being incredibly rude (Is it too much to ask that when I say "Hi! How are you?", you respond with a greeting instead of "Half a rack of ribs with fries"?), they ordered a huge meal, didn't even eat half of it, then refused to take it home with them, instead making me throw out an ungodly amount of food.

So yeah, that pisses me off: DO NOT THROW OUT YOUR PERFECTLY GOOD FOOD, YOU FUCKING INGRATE. Holy fucking GOD, is it too much to ask that instead of ordering a bunch off food that you'll make me throw out (because apparently, we're not allowed to give food to those who might need it), you either order, I don't know, LESS food? Or maybe just bring it home with you and either eat the rest of it or give it to someone else?

FEIST ANGRY! FEIST SMASH!!!

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at December 12, 2009 6:19 PM

Oooooh, some more peeves:

1) People who can't tell the difference between socialism, communism, and fascism. It just pisses me the fuck off.

2) Asymmertry and/or odd numbers. I just like things to be nice and even. If stuff was meant to look cock-eyed, we wouldn't need levels, now would we?

3) Assholes who have headphones on, but decide to SING OUT LOUD the music they are listening to. If I wanted to hear "Killing Me Softly" be butchered, I would do it my damn self, ya fuckhead.

4) I hate pet peeves. The idea of them. I hate that little shit can get stuck in my craw and send me into an irrational rage. For what amounts to nothing.

5) Certain commenters. 'Nuff said.

6) How can I put this one....

Anyone arguing for religion. I just think they're morons.

Ah, thanks.

Statements like that.

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 6:24 PM

I think it's laudable that we all feel so vehemently about the lottery as a means to exploit those who are so poor they're dumb (or vice versa), but at the end of the day it seems like a vice we collectively accept. It would be interesting to see who pays, how much of their discretionary income it sucks up, etc. Is it more acceptable to permit gambling of the Las Vegas variety because it's glitzier? When's the last time you saw a documentary about a guy strung out on Lotto? I mean there's plenty of shit out there to get pissed about, I just don't see the lottery as some gigantic blight on the world.

P.S. Seen-yore Banks, hope all went well on Wednesday.

Posted by: Johnnyboy at December 12, 2009 6:26 PM

For me, it's usually baseball-related. Like when people use team-dependent statistics (Wins, RBIs) to measure independent player performances. Or when people underestimate the value of defense, as if it's not half of the game. And don't even get me started on all-star selections and gold glove voting. Oh man, now I'm getting angry....

Posted by: Borg at December 12, 2009 6:26 PM

7) I hate being an asshole. I really do. I hate the feeling of it. I don't want to be obstinate and offensive. i want to get along with people.

So really....

8) I hate this Diversion.

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 6:27 PM

I gamble sure, every time I order out.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 12, 2009 6:38 PM

"Nice Guy" syndrome. Every time I hear a guy saying "I should just stop being a nice guy, I never get anything out of it. Women only want jerks, I should act like a jerk" I lose my shit. If you say that - nay, if this thought even occurs in your brain - guess what? You were not a "nice guy" to begin with. A real nice guy is an all around good dude NOT because he expects something out of it - he was just brought up right and gets that you treat people with respect if you want to be respected. And THAT guy is the guy who gets the girl, not the guy who pisses and moans about how he never gets any return on his investment of good behavior.

The Nice Guy Persecution Complex is what cowardly little snots use to defend themselves when ladies see through their bullshit and, rightfully, avoid them like the plague. It is similar to White Guy Persecution Complex ("I'm unsuccessful because PC America wont let a white man succeed anymore, not because I am lazy or legitimately less talented than the competition! BOO HOO!"). This is equally guaranteed to raise my hackles.

Posted by: Tammy at December 12, 2009 6:44 PM

See also: Christian American Persecution Complex and Conservative Persecution Complex. This "Persecution," I do not think it means what you think it means....

Posted by: Tammy at December 12, 2009 6:49 PM

MCDONALDS, and all the other fast-food joints. They are single-handedly destroying the world. They are seriously the evil nemesis that superheros try to take down in movies.

They exploit illegal aliens (and promote them coming into the country) in the slaughterhouses and farms that grow and kill the meat and produce used in the food served in the restaurants.

They have so much money they influence farm subsidies, which hurts small farmers and makes it virtually impossible to profit off any crop other than corn, cow and chicken. And potatoes to a smaller degree (gotta have your french fries).

Because farms can only grow these four crops, it's destroying our agricultural system.

They promote factory farm systems that are, basically, the homes of the WORLDS SADDEST COWS.

They produce so much food so fast that food safety standards have to be lowered, which they can get away with because they financially control the USFUCKINGDA. This is why so many kids get salmonella and whatnot from eating at fast food joints.

The food is fucking awful and fucking awful for you.

Posted by: Lindsay at December 12, 2009 6:51 PM

Posted by: Tammy at December 12, 2009 6:44 PM

YES. And usually, the "jerk" in question is a guy that doesn't act like a doormat just so he can get laid, which is the real reason "nice guys" hate him.

And really, any woman that DOES go for a jerk that disrespects her over the guy that tries to do right by her obviously doesn't need, want, or deserve a decent relationship to begin with.

Same goes for your addendums too.

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 7:03 PM

Most things I just let go as shit out of my control. But, I'm a bart commuter (see SF subway/over ground tain system) and lately people just don't get the concept of moving aside on escalators or even complying to the words, "excuse me." One day I was so fed up with it I pushed past two people who left a wide enough gap to let me through but didn't actually move when I asked. I usually hold my messenger bag so it doesn't smack people as I pass, but guess what? I let it smack the bitch who refused to move to the same side as the gentleman. It's no wonder people treat each other like shit since they can't get common decency down.

Posted by: What the Fuck at December 12, 2009 7:07 PM

I can only pick one subject that sets the fuse off in my touchehole? That's like asking me to pick my favorite child! Oh very well, I'll pick the one freshest on the bottom of my shoe.

Old People. Especially as Baby Boomers creep ever so further from middle-aged and treat their own parents.

We try so hard as a society to get them to live longer in any condition possible simply because we collectively cannot deal with our own mortality. So what if Grandpa is 97, deaf, blind, wets and shits himself, has to take 46 pills every day, can't remember his own name much less his grandchildren, is in immeasurable pain whenever he moves and is holed up in a nursing home because no one can deal with him on a daily basis- he's still alive and therefore we hold back death that much further away from us. It's like people have bullshit themselves into believing that so long as someone older in their family is still alive in front of them, they themselves are that much safer from the Grim Reaper's clutches, as though the Angel of Death worked in order of oldest downward.

Society worked so hard at engineering science to extend our elders lives and keep them going, that quite often the quality of their lives they live is ignored. So this is how we thank our previous generation? By subjecting them to a geriatric casting of Night of the Living Dead?

Let me ask you this, if you could choose between living a comfortable an decent life and then one day kicking over in your mid 70's, or living to be near 100, but spending much of the last 20 years in misery as you body and your mind slowly betray you and shut down- which would you pick?

Consider how many old people are clogging up nursing homes and hospitals. Forgotten by their own family save for a few days here and there. Imagine how much our resources would be conserved if we sometimes asked our selves, "Yeah sure we can get them to live longer, but should we?" Forget all the religious nonsense for a moment and just ask yourselves, "Does living longer mean living a better life?"

Inuit people have the right idea, when a person could no longer contribute to the whole they'd throw a big party for them and shove them tearfully on an ice flow. Sometimes, it's for the best. Allowing someone to die isn't a sin, it's letting nature take it course.

By the way, you're all going to die. Eventually. Deal with it.

Posted by: bleujayone at December 12, 2009 7:09 PM

Those god damn cell phones that play music out loud. I don't even know what the person who came up with that idea was thinking, because it seems expressly designed to be abused by idiot teenagers playing awful music. It's bad enough when I can hear their music from their headphones, but every single time I ride the tram after 11 PM I have to listen to some Nickelback or Lady Gaga song through crappy cell phone speakers, complete with drunk Hungarian sixteen-year olds singing along. And then I realize that the existence of such evil technology has turned me into a curmudgeon at the ripe of age of 23. Bah.

I seriously want to find that inventor and light him on fire.

Also, being told that I'm selfish for not wanting to have children biologically. I'm a primary school teacher! Obviously I love children. Not wanting to pass on genetic illnesses or contribute to the planet's horrific overpopulation, rather wanting to adopt a child that otherwise wouldn't find a home... clearly, I am a selfish bastard. God, the lack of logical understanding on this one just burns me. I have actually gotten screamy on this topic. I'm not a screamy sort of a person, either.

Posted by: Lauren (in BP) at December 12, 2009 7:16 PM

And that should be "ripe old age." I am clearly an excellent English teacher.

Posted by: Lauren (in BP) at December 12, 2009 7:18 PM

This thread makes me feel icky. All the ugly sides of people are about to be unleashed and will clash violently with one another.

*bows deeply* I'm out. I'll be watching some season one Northern Exposure while y'all go at it.

Posted by: Goldie at December 12, 2009 7:19 PM

This is a really ridiculous one, but adverts for cosmetics and/or hair dye get on my everloving tits to a ridiculous degree.
97% of the time they fill me with pure, blind rage for no actual reason that I can discern. Really - I couldn't possibly tell you why, but every time some D-list actress (like Andie FUCKING McDowell) tries to tell me I'm Worth It, a part of my soul gets sucked into a black hole of hatred and I have to change the channel or I will DESTROY THE SCREEN.

*ahem*
I'm better now.

Posted by: Squeeziee at December 12, 2009 7:24 PM

Old People.

I hate them. I hate everything about them. I hate that they expect special privilege by virtue of living a long time. Why should you get my seat old person? Because you are old? That isn't a reason! Just because your frail ass wants to sit down doesn't mean my young ass is obligated to let you.

I hate that they constitute a powerful voting bloc that will support social security until the country is actually bankrupt, just so that they can support their televangelist donation habits.

I hate that they can't hear, get offended by goddamn near everything, and that they smell funny.

I hate that they are screwing up the financial health of the country by sucking up every damn tax dollar to pay for their 5th hip transplant so that they can live to 103, as opposed to just "92".

Don't get me started on old people.

Posted by: "luker" the barbarian at December 12, 2009 7:30 PM

You tell 'em, bluejayone. Old people piss me off, too. Worthless fuckers.

And toddlers--GET A JOB!

And if I see one more goddamn golden retriever puppy, I will vomit.

Now glass shards!?! THEY never disappoint! Good ole glass shards.

Posted by: Johnnyboy at December 12, 2009 7:34 PM

I hate that they expect special privilege by virtue of living a long time. Why should you get my seat old person? Because you are old? That isn't a reason! Just because your frail ass wants to sit down doesn't mean my young ass is obligated to let you.

Most of them don't expect it. I give up my seat because I'm a young healthy person who can stand it. Besides, if they can get around on their legs at that age, give them some respect you asshole.

Posted by: What the Fuck at December 12, 2009 7:36 PM

Casual cursing. Perhaps it makes me sound like an old fogey, but the casual, continual, and thoughtless use of curse words is very disturbing. I'm not going to try to say that cursing indicates a lack of vocabulary, I'm certain that isn't true. (Though cursing is often used as a verbal crutch by the verbally challenged.)

However, I dislike the use of those words (see previous posts above for examples) as mere emphasis, which has the effect of weakening the words. Then, when the time comes when a proper curse is needed, more evil, nasty, and foul terms must be called forth. It's a terrible shame.

Aw, fuck it, I am a fogey.

Posted by: greg at December 12, 2009 7:36 PM

*Deep Breath*

Parents that give their fucking kids every fucking thing they ask for, have NO rules or boundaries, are completely oblivious to their (and their kids) obnoxious behviour, kow-tow to little Sally's every god damn whim because not to would be mean and believe that I should have to sit here and tolerate that kind of fuckery! Honey, your pussy of a son crying does not automatically mean that he gets what he wants.

I'm glad that you think Daddy's errant squirt is a gift unto the masses, but if your fucking kid shrieks one more time because you're not paying attention to him/her I will put YOU over my knee and thrash you until you actually believe you were in a violent S&M porno. Think about what you're doing to the kid. How you're not teaching them any values or respect and how they will have to depend on you doing everything for them until they are sixty-fucking-five. Enjoy your crack addict, bitch!

And, I'm done.

Posted by: admin at December 12, 2009 7:39 PM

1) Vegetarians: just fucking stop it. You're not a saint because you refuse to eat meat and I'm not a monster because I do.

2) PETA: the way you treat women is despicable. Fuck you.

Posted by: ZoBla at December 12, 2009 7:40 PM

I hate that they expect special privilege by virtue of living a long time. Why should you get my seat old person? Because you are old? That isn't a reason! Just because your frail ass wants to sit down doesn't mean my young ass is obligated to let you.

Most of them don't expect it. I give up my seat because I'm a young healthy person who can stand it. Besides, if they can get around on their legs at that age, give them some respect you asshole.

Posted by: What the Fuck at December 12, 2009 7:36 PM

Bullshit. There are a great deal of old people, or even middle age people who will cough at you, glare at you, or demand your seat out of a sense of entitlement. More importantly, you missed the point. There is a difference between capacity to do something and an obligation to do so. I certainly am capable of giving up my seat. I just don't see why it is disrespectful not to. It is only disrespectful if you think that the world should act in such a way as to make old people's lives more comfortable. My point, is that WHY should we feel obligated to make old people's lives better solely because they are decrepit? All they've done is age. Everyone ages! Awesome people, asshole people, and average people age. Being old doesn't make you special and worthy of respect.

It is appropriate to respect those who have actually done things. Like, veterans who served our country or doctors, who saved lives.

Being some random old person does not merit automatic respect. And old people who feel entitled to automatic respect because they are old, and not because of what they did piss me off.

Posted by: "luker" the barbarian at December 12, 2009 7:50 PM

I'm generally pretty chill about political differences (I grew up as a liberal in Texas, so I would have been pretty friendless otherwise), but I hate in real life anyone who is against gay marriage, because at a certain point, bigotry can't be masked behind the excuse of being a "political stance," and I have no problem whatsoever being rude to anyone in real life who feels that way. Except my grandma, because she's old and can't help it.

Posted by: Tim at December 12, 2009 7:54 PM

How bout accommodating them because they're simply not in prime health, jagoff?! You feel the same way about invalids and children?

If you're trying to provide cause to hate old people, how bout just admitting you're a biased prick.

Posted by: Johnnyboy at December 12, 2009 7:56 PM

It is only disrespectful if you think that the world should act in such a way as to make old people's lives more comfortable.

Keep trying to rationalize the fact that you're a rude asshole, it's cute.

Posted by: What the Fuck at December 12, 2009 7:57 PM



It is only disrespectful if you think that the world should act in such a way as to make old people's lives more comfortable.

Keep trying to rationalize the fact that you're a rude asshole, it's cute.

Posted by: What the Fuck at December 12, 2009 7:57 PM

Keep trying to ignore the fact that you don't have an actual justification for your opinion

Oh, and last time I checked, the response "but most people believe x too, therefore, i'm right" isn't a very good argument. Most americans just believe that gay marriage is an abomination but they sure as hell aren't right.

Posted by: "luker" the barbarian at December 12, 2009 8:05 PM

Parents who give their children 'distinctive' first names. Because they want to be unique, or because they don't want to give their child a "common" name.

Example 'A':
A few years back I was at a party and met a well-off couple who had named their six-year-old boy "Zen". Zen was there, sitting on the sofa and looking oddly desolate. I heard later he was asking people to call him "Jack". I wonder why?

Example 'B':
My brother and his wife decided to name their first son using half of one grandfather's first name and half of the other's name (I'm going to use a different name, in case they catch wind of my ranting here.) So let's say, for example, that the mother's father is named Jerry and the father's father is named Eric. The kid's name, therefore, is "Jerric". Again, I heard through others that Jerric's mother was coolly correcting the nurses at the hospital who mispronounced Jerric's name, as if they should know off the bat that there was nothing weird about a baby boy named friggin' JERRIC.

Posted by: spoobnooble at December 12, 2009 8:05 PM

Yeah, this "old people" debate is starting to sound a lot like the other persecution complexes I mentioned above. I am, admittedly, overly sensitive when people start throwing the word "entitlement" around. It tends to smack loudly of "I didn't get what I want, so it must be because of someone ELSE'S entitlement."

Not denying that there are self-important asswipes who will give you the stink eye if you don't cough up your seat for one reason or another, but as a daily rider of New York City public transit, I live by this rule: if you don't look like you can comfortably stand on the subway as well as I can, you can have my seat. This goes for anyone with a cane, a walking apparatus, a small child, or someone who is super pregnant. It's not a matter of feeling like I "have" to give up my seat, it's a matter of knowing that I can. So I do.

See "nice guy" rant above.

Posted by: Tammy at December 12, 2009 8:06 PM

Oh, and last time I checked, the response "but most people believe x too, therefore, i'm right" isn't a very good argument. Most americans just believe that gay marriage is an abomination but they sure as hell aren't right.

Nice straw man. Do you ever actually argue a point?

Posted by: What the Fuck at December 12, 2009 8:09 PM

Tammy, despite being a straight girl, I want to propose to you after that post. Oh, hell, I live in Canada (yay us and our managing to recognize that gay marriage isn't a holy terror), so I think I will.

My God, the "Nice Guy" makes me want to scream. Though I do love the funny part, where the guy turns on you after you see through his falsely agreeable bullshit. ("Yeah, well, I didn't like you anyway - you're stupid. And ugly.") They don't seem to get that it isn't women wanting bad boys or jerks. People (a lot of people) can be simultaneously kind and interesting - they're just neither and bitter about it.

Posted by: PallasJay at December 12, 2009 8:10 PM

Ah, dearest Luker:

When you so eloquently state:

"There are a great deal of old people, or even middle age people who will cough at you, glare at you, or demand your seat out of a sense of entitlement."

You're quite simply showing yourself to be a dumbass, because you're overly generalizing and therefore undermining your own credibility.

But I allow where you state:

"More importantly, you missed the point. There is a difference between capacity to do something and an obligation to do so."

Because this, dear Luker, is precisely what Mr. Banks was alluding to when he said "expound on it to the fullness of your self-righteous flaming assholiness ... And we’ll tell you what a prick you are."

You see you, my friend, are the prick of this exchange. Runner-up goes to bluejayone for the assist.

Posted by: Johnnyboy at December 12, 2009 8:12 PM

Gambling is the finest thing a person can do...if they're good at it.

My current number one peeve: those who use the phrases, "you must" or "you probably" when discussing and/or debating a topic online.

For example, I say I don't believe in capital punishment. The standard online retort is usually something like "YOU MUST be one of those flaming libs", or "YOU PROBABLY want to coddle those criminals like all bleeding-hearts". These assumptions and sideways leaps of ass-tarded logic drive be totally batshit insane. It is as if stating any opinion on any topic automatically assigns you to one "team" or the other, with no exceptions. If you believe in one thing, you must therefore believe in everything else your "side" endorses. It's a way of thinking that is killing this country. It makes any serious discussions impossible and totally thwarts any attempts at realistic compromises.

That is my peeve and if you disagree with me, you must be a child-molesting pervert who probably secretly fantasizes about Sarah Palin. See how annoying it is??

Posted by: Dude Manbro at December 12, 2009 8:17 PM

The hierarchy of seating on public transportation drives me insane. It's a combination of common courtesy and the disgusting sense of entitlement people develop.

I'm 20. Last year I blew out my knee. I tore all 4 ligaments and damaged the nerve that runs down my knee to the point that IF it the feeling ever returns at all it will be serious work to keep my foot from dropping, and yet I'm met with complete disdain when I ask politely for someone to move his/her briefcase/groceries/newspaper/errant fat flap/etc. so that I can have a seat. Whether I was in a full leg immobilizer, using crutches, or walking with the assistance of a cane, 95% of people ask like its a chore to consolidate themselves to accommodate me.

And when I'm lucky enough to grab one of those "Elderly/Handicapped" seats from the absurd group of people who take them with little regard from the other people on the train/bus/spaceship, everyone looks at me like I'm an asshole. News flash, I'm a fucking handicapped person, I'm not going to go through the laborious process of standing up so you, a 45 year old fat ass who claims to be my elder, can sit down.

Posted by: Braski at December 12, 2009 8:22 PM

"whatthefuck" your name is appropriate.

1) The thread was designed to be about ranting about things. You are the one who randomly started attacking someone's rant. I wasn't required to write a damn thesis to justify my "don't get me started point"

2) It is rather odd that someone who is so focused on etiquette randomly chooses to pick fights on a thread that is guaranteed to offer different viewpoints. Oh, and is someone who thinks it is totally cool to "let [his messenger bag] smack the bitch who refused to move to the same side as the gentleman. Yeah, you are an ethical prophet...guy who hits people with his bag because they won't walk down the escalator fast enough.

3) Ignoring that, after you attacked me, I DID give you an argument why I ranted about old people. Since you are incapable of understanding basic logic, i'll break it down for you.

Premise 1: Respect must be earned through positive actions.
Premise 2: Growing old isn't a positive action.
Conclusion: Old people don't automatically deserve respect solely for being old.

Your "logical" response. "it's cute that you are trying to rationalize" my biases.

That would be an ad hominem attack (I too, can throw around logical fallacies, the difference between us is that I actually know how to make arguments) that does not address any element of my argument. You COULD have argued that respect isn't earned from actions, and that it is a social construct that attaches to entire swathes of the population (attacking premise 1). You COULD have argued that growing old is a positive action because you learn all sorts of valuable knowledge about the world (attacking premise 2). What did you "argue"?

"Most of them don't expect it. I give up my seat because I'm a young healthy person who can stand it. Besides, if they can get around on their legs at that age, give them some respect you asshole."

Translation =

"I can give up my seat, therefore you should, you are an asshole for not doing that.

That doesn't address a damn thing I said. If you are going to randomly pick fights on the internet you should at least learn how to argue.

Go troll somewhere else.

Posted by: "luker" the barbarian at December 12, 2009 8:23 PM

Dude, that definitely is on my list. It doesn't help though,that the current parties in power and the media encourage political parties to be rooted on like football teams. Both sides of the fence have politicians and their special interests screwing over the American people. Plenty of people are either too busy name-calling the other side or reading about Tiger Wood's latest escort to come out of the woodwork to realize what's really going on.

Posted by: What the Fuck at December 12, 2009 8:25 PM

I'm going to mention this one hyper-specific point, because 1-it points out what an absolute asshole I am and 2-it's a little more specific than hating the elderly. Althugh I do hate them-just for the hell of it. Anyway-the word forte. Do you know how it's pronounced? Do you? Because it's pronounced fort. Like the thing you make with pillows from the couch.
You know how it's NOT pronounced? FORT-AY. That is wrong. No, shut up, it's wrong. wrongwrongwrong! No, it's NOT an alternate way of saying it. The word comes from the strength of a piece of music. Using it in it's ORIGINAL meaning, you can pronounce it FORT-AY. If you are talking about a person's strength, then it's fort. FORT I SAY!!! Over the years some dictionaries with low standards will accept the FORT-AY pronounciation, but get a real fucking dictionary that does not compromise, and it's FORT GODDAMNIT!!! FORT!

Sigh-for the longest time I carried the page in the dictionary with the forte entry, because I'm just that much of an asshole. Look, I'm working on it okay?

Posted by: Mrcreosote at December 12, 2009 8:29 PM

because they won't walk down the escalator fast enough.

Because they refuse to move after I've asked several times. I'm on public transportation all the time, so it's starting to get old how people will utterly refuse to move even after you've asked several times and they've acknowledged [i]hearing you. Keep trying to bait me though it's really cute.

You obviously have some issues with a couple self-righteous old folks that you've translated into justification for treating the rest like shit. Good for you.

Posted by: What the Fuck at December 12, 2009 8:29 PM

A couple of people may have noticed whenever religion is brought up on the site that it really grinds my gears. Seriously, is there anything in the world both as dangerous and stupid as religion?

*Chances are it isn't true, I could get into discussions of celestial teapots or my invisible pink unicorn friend Stever (who also created the universe and just try to prove me otherwise).

*If the only reason you're a "good" person is because you believe that otherwise your invisible grandaddy in the sky will bitchslap you down to eternal torment, you're not a good person.

*Morality is more complicated than religion makes it out to be. There are plenty of good religious people and bad atheists, and vice versa. But anyone who says that they're a good person because the bible tells them to be should really spend some time comparing what the bible considers moral behaviour and what they do. You're acting good according to secular society asshole! It has nothing to do with the bible!

*As far as I can tell there are only 2 things that the average person will kill for (well, self-defense, but that's sort of justifiable). Their god and their country. Personally I believe that this makes religion and patriotism the 2 most dangerous human behaviours in the world.

On an unrelated note, because it's christmas: women who have prams in shopping centres. Seriously, it's fucking christmas and the aisles are full! Leave the kid at home with a sitter, especially if you're there with a bunch of you friends and all want to walk next to eachother (frequently all with prams). Thankfully I got my christmas shopping done early this year because I really don't want to be that guy that kicked a baby.

Posted by: Chugga at December 12, 2009 8:31 PM

The only reason I don’t play the lottery is that with my luck I’d win it and I’d be dead within a year. My demons would have a field day with winning the lottery, I’d die extravagantly.

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 8:32 PM

The weight wars. I get caught up in it because I'm on the skinny side, and I hate having to get up on my soapbox about it because it makes me look defensive (I want to gain a few pounds, but otherwise I'm happy with the way I look). But just because I'm skinny doesn't make it OK to make comments about my appearance. It's not OK at work, and it's not OK if you're meeting me for the first time. You don't do it to fat people out of politeness, and I deserve the same courtesy.
The media/health "experts"/FUCKING FASHION MAGAZINES need to stop defining what a "real woman" is, it's stupid, hypocritical, and offensive.

Also I hate how the word 'anorexic' is used to describe anyone who is even slightly underweight. I don't even think people know what anorexia is anymore.

Posted by: ruru at December 12, 2009 8:36 PM

Posted by: Mrcreosote at December 12, 2009 8:29 PM

Pronunciation note:
In the sense of a person's strong point (He draws well, but sculpture is his forte), the older and historical pronunciation of forte is the one-syllable /fɔrt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [fawrt] Show IPA or /foʊrt/[fohrt]. The word is derived from the French word fort "strong." A two-syllable pronunciation /ˈfɔrteɪ/[fawr-tey] is increasingly heard, especially from younger educated speakers, perhaps owing to confusion with the musical term forte, pronounced in English as /ˈfɔrteɪ/[fawr-tey] and in Italian as /ˈfɔrtɛ/[fawr-te]. Both the one- and two-syllable pronunciations of forte are now considered standard.

From dictionary.com. I guess it's one of those "language is fluid" things?

Posted by: Chugga at December 12, 2009 8:38 PM

I shut down completely when any homosexual slur is used by anyone near me. If I am free to, I will remove myself from the area. If not, I will enter my happy place and not come out until that ass has left the area. I walked out of a class this semester and waited outside the professor's door to ask what I missed when he let students start defending "gay" as the new word for "retarded." Oh, so that makes it all better? You're not mocking someone for what you presume their sexuality to be, but for what you presume to be their mental deficiencies? That's ok? And permitted in a history classroom? It's beyond frustrating. It's disgusting.

And you think that's angry, I'm not even getting into abuse of punctuation. I'm liable to wind up in the emergency room over that one.

Posted by: Robert at December 12, 2009 8:38 PM

Also I hate how the word 'anorexic' is used to describe anyone who is even slightly underweight. I don't even think people know what anorexia is anymore.

My favorite is still the assumption skinnies don't eat. Maybe those stupid fashion models don't but it's hard for people to believe that there are people with naturally fast or even too fast metabolisms.

Posted by: What the Fuck at December 12, 2009 8:41 PM

Robert my happy place is between a woman’s legs or her butt cheeks.


There!

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 8:46 PM

Groups of people who take up the whole sidewalk. To begin with, I don't see why people generally walk so slowly (and by "people" I mean apparently healthy adults not wearing high heels or carrying heavy burdens) but that's not really a concern. However, when there are a bunch of you, why do you have to walk three or four abreast? I mean, it's bad enough trying to pass these people, but some will literally not even get over if you're meeting them. Gah! You won't lose track of your friends if you drop back for five seconds. Also, if it's five o'clock on a workday in the business district, get off the middle of the narrow sidewalk to sightsee or meet up with your long lost bestie.

(I've been doing a lot more walking as transport lately. As much as I enjoy it, it's apparently made me a lot more impatient and a lot more willing to jostle as I go by.)

Also, why does everyone seem to use "can not" instead of "cannot" nowadays? Dictionary.com apparently sees this as an acceptable alternative, and I admit that I might be wrong on this, but it just drives me nuts. Irrationally, but intensely.

Finally, and I'm betting no one will realize what I'm referring to, don't get me started on how much I hate both Anthony Calvillo and Randy Ferbey. Canadian sports can make me so, so stabby.

I cannot decide if the rising of this much bile feels good and cleansing or is just making me hostile for my impending night out. I guess only time will tell.

Posted by: PallasJay at December 12, 2009 8:49 PM

Guess Who!, I prefer using my imagination to playback Gremlins in my mind as a happy place, but I suppose that would work, too.

Posted by: Robert at December 12, 2009 8:50 PM

1) Vegetarians: just fucking stop it. You're not a saint because you refuse to eat meat and I'm not a monster because I do.

2) PETA: the way you treat women is despicable. Fuck you.

Posted by: ZoBla at December 12, 2009 7:40 PM
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THANK YOU! That is exactly what I was going to say when I read this diversion. Vegetarians drive me insane. With their "my lifestyle is healthier" and "Oh, you're going to eat that steak?" judgement. SHUT UP! If I want to eat a nice steak, then suck it. Meat is good and there's a reason there so many delicious varieties.

It's no surprise that none of my friends are vegetarians. I disown anyone as soon as they start that. And don't even get me started on the vegans...those malnourished, non-cotton wearing wusses.

P.S. I hadn't thought about the PETA argument - but ditto.

Posted by: Danna at December 12, 2009 8:59 PM

Just as luck would have it Robert I’ve got a naked broad upstairs in bed. Let me see if thinking about Gremlins is more satisfying……hold on a sec……hmmmmm, you know Robert I must admit Gremlins are interesting to think about, but for now I’m going to stick with this big booty Spanish chick upstairs.

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 9:05 PM

Oh here comes the rants.....
1) Really stupid questions. For example, today I was in a vet's waiting room with my parrot. I was asked by a gentleman "Is that a parrot?" No...its a fucking bearcat.

2) People who use the argument that since Marijuana has shown promise with AIDS and cancer patients, this justifies the wholesale legalization for recreational use. Bare in mind, I am for a system just like they have in Portugal. I am not a prude that thinks marijuana is dangerous. I just find that line of justification to be morally repugnant. Its using sick people for a personal goal.

3) Clueless people that try to cover up their ignorance. From my cousin that asks every Thanksgiving "Who is winning the match?", to the moronic English major I was talking to at a party who overhead a conversation about Thomas Pychon, and started to rip on his writing style only to later admit she had never actually read a single sentence he wrote (she later informed us her favorite writers were Tom Clancy and Steven King...WTF?), just stop...please. If you don't have anything to add to a conversation...don't start saying random stupid things just to be heard.

4) The Phrase "My bad".

5) People confused by the "Big Bang Theory". Its simply conservation of momentum. That's all it is. Its not a hard or complex idea.

6) In that vein, Evolution. It is the simplest model we have that explains all the biodiversity on the planet and there is more physical evidence for it than gravity.

7) The notion that there is a difference between democrats and republicans or that voting in a national election changes matters at all. If voting did anything to change the system, it would have been made illegal decades ago.

8) The idea that our society is on the downswing or that things were better at some other time. Teen pregnancy was never higher than during the 40's. Drug usage today isn't close to what it was in the 20's. Sure, seeing crap like "Jersey Shore" on TV seems to indicate just how far we have fallen as a society, but to me it's a monument to how far we have come that those idiots are able to survive at all to adulthood.

Posted by: Diablo at December 12, 2009 9:06 PM

I've got another timely one for folks in NYC, just because I am full of piss and vinegar: SANTACON. (for those who haven't had the pleasure of witnessing a fleet of assholes wearing Santa suits as they bounce from bar to bar: http://nycsantacon.com/)

Seriously, adding Santa suits to a pack of obnoxious, privileged, drunk, fratty trust-funders does not suddenly take them from "skeevy" to "festive." I was on the N train today with at least 30 of them, and I'm pretty sure the only thing Santa's bag has to offer is a hefty dose of roofies and a raging STD.

Posted by: Tammy at December 12, 2009 9:11 PM

9) People offending by swearing. What are you, a fucking child? Especially since what is a swear has drastically changed throughout human history. I am perfectly fine with self censor around children...they will learn those words on their own time. But when someone is a fucking adult, tries to chide me for casually swearing...grow the fuck up. My right to free speech overrides your fake right not to get your panties in a bunch.

Posted by: Diablo at December 12, 2009 9:18 PM

That doesn't address a damn thing I said. If you are going to randomly pick fights on the internet you should at least learn how to argue.

As someone has already pointed out, he is merely fulfilling the last part of the initial post. He doesn't have to argue you point for point, really.

Morality is more complicated than religion makes it out to be. There are plenty of good religious people and bad atheists, and vice versa. But anyone who says that they're a good person because the bible tells them to be should really spend some time comparing what the bible considers moral behaviour and what they do. You're acting good according to secular society asshole! It has nothing to do with the bible!

But isn't that simplifying morality as well? I mean, you are assuming quite a bit out of the statement "The Bible tells me so". Are you somehow able to discern the circumstances that brings certain people to religion? Or how they interpret it?

And what is "good according to secular society", anyway? Communism is considered a secular society, one self-described as for its people, and yet Communist countries are often the front-runners for oppression, torture, and censorship, three very "not good" things.

*As far as I can tell there are only 2 things that the average person will kill for (well, self-defense, but that's sort of justifiable). Their god and their country. Personally I believe that this makes religion and patriotism the 2 most dangerous human behaviours in the world.

Um, what about Europe during Wold War II? Was that not self-defense against the Nazi threat? Oftentimes it is a case of self-defense when it comes to killing for your country. I mean, where are these people's families? In their country. Their property, their livelihood, the very things that they hold dear? In their country. They kill to protect those things from a threat from the outside. Is that not self-defense?

Same with their god. Not just their beliefs, but their very right to believe could be under threat. they could be attacked solely because they believe something that others do not. Does this mean he is somehow less deserving of a chance to survive?

It seems like you are the one oversimplifying things. It is fine to disagree, but to take on the very tact you claim to abhor in others deflates your argument considerably.

This is what I meant by how I hate statements like that. Because it is intensely dismissive, and is just as closed-minded as any fundamentalist screed. When you actively decide to ignore any and all positive aspects of a position in order to focus on the negatives, all so you can prove your point, how can you honestly consider yourself rational?

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 9:27 PM

I’m pissed off as well Diablo and I’ve got a bone pick with these fake ass dating websites. I met this lovely young lady online, she said she was looking for romance, so I said would you like to go get a room sometime when you’re not busy, she goes off the handle and start calling me all kinds of names. In my book romance means fucking but unbeknownst to me apparently romance means getting to know the person, there likes and dislikes, and there family and friends and spending money on gifts and dinners and birthdays and shit. Ladies I’m not going to waste my dollars if there isn’t a point of gold at the end of the rainbow. I think those dating websites should be closed down.

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 9:32 PM

7) The notion that there is a difference between democrats and republicans or that voting in a national election changes matters at all. If voting did anything to change the system, it would have been made illegal decades ago.

So either you are happy with the system, or we should expect you to blow up Congress any day now. Because the only folks who think that working within the system doesn't work are either the ones holding back progress, or the ones who want to destroy the system.

Then again, you could just be a loudmouth who just wants to complain without actually doing anything.

Don't forget your Guy Fawkes mask!

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 9:35 PM

Or maybe he’ s just a little disgusted with the whole political process Vermillion. Speaking about something is action, so he is in fact doing something about it Vermillion. The marchers of the sixties just didn’t appear one day out thin air, the entire sixties movement started out as a thought which turned into words which turned into action. Your simplistic view that he’s not doing anything just because he’s not acting on it shows in great detail just how little you know about the great political movements that have shaped this country.

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 9:47 PM

What Tammy said. The 1st and 2nd times.

In addition, people that are not from Los Angeles who come here with stars in their eyes seeking fame and fortune on a modicum of talent, only to take up the so-called "Industry" kind of lifestyle and act like an extra from Entourage or douches in general, and fuck up the rep of my beleloved city.

REAL LA natives are decent, nice people:

If we say we are coming to your party, we show up.

If we live on the Westide we don't complain about how far the Eastside is, because we are smart enough to know that 10 miles is not "too fucking far". And vice versa.

We don't mind traffic on the 405 because we're not too good to drive (much faster) the streets.

We realize that paying $3000/month to live in a sub-section of the city with the word "Beach" in it is moronic when we can live in the adjacent city (also within walking distance) for a quarter of the price.

We know that it's OK to wear red or blue whenever we want, that haggle-shopping downtown (with the Hispanics! and Arabs!) is smarter than preening at the Beverly Center, and that you are more likely to get jacked by the homeless dudes in Santa Monica than by some random Black or Brown person in Inglewood.

We are overrun with fake-ass jerks out here, all claiming to be natives. Look bitch, if you got here after 1st grade, you ain't a native. But these muthafukkas claim LA all damn day. Then they act like goatblowing assclowns. Fuck the fake ass "LA people". Stop fucking up my city! Go back to Kentuckwisconisota or whereeverthefuck you all from.

Posted by: ceejeemcbeegee at December 12, 2009 9:52 PM

Arrrgh! Not naming any names here, but one of my major pet peeves is people who think it's well within their rights to be assholes, and that people around them should "just deal with it". Is it too much to ask for people to just be nice and respectful to one another? Grow the fuck up, and realize that you are not the only person who matters in this world. It's not that goddamned hard to be nice.

Oh, also, Facebook memorial/tribute pages that are created by illiterate fucktards. I've made my husband promise me that whenever I kick off, there will be no "RIP meaux!!!!!

Posted by: meaux at December 12, 2009 9:53 PM

Hey, my comment got cut off (ooh, new peeve!). That should have read:

"RIP meaux!!!! UR 1 of GODs angles now!!!!" pages. *shudder*

Yeah, that would turn me into one pissed-off zombie....

Posted by: meaux at December 12, 2009 9:55 PM

Loving the hatred. Allow me to toss two things in here:

1. The "evolution is just a theory" morons. First of all, they're mistaking "HYPOTHESIS" (i.e. an idea someone had) with "THEORY" (i.e. an hypothesis that's been tested over and over again but has yet to be declared a scientific law). Second these morons have no idea that, unlike math or chemistry with their dozens of laws, biology is a living science, whose test subjects change. Therefore there's only 3 laws in biology -- Mendel's Laws of Genetic Inheritance. Evolution is as close to a scientific law os the theory of relativity (which isn't a law either but no one argues against because there's a huge mushroom cloud proving it right).

2. The Church of True Believers vs the Church of Atheists. Nothing I dislike more than hearing two groups of people arguing like batshit-crazy harpies, trying to prove the other side wrong. You'd think intelligent adults would have figured out that: A) it's everyone's right to believe what they will, B) there's no 2/5-minute argument that's going to make someone go through a life-changing decision and C) it'd be better if they just got in a circle and tried to see who could jerk it longer and better for all the good they do.

Live your life. Let others live theirs. And STFU!

Posted by: Fredo at December 12, 2009 9:55 PM

luker dude, youre doin fine, dont get all defensive, stick to the thread, man, i mean, what the fuck?

oh and i hate people who believe in anything, especially just because theyre so self centered and self concerned that it just couldnt possible that the beautiful process that they, themselves are could end without some ego gratified purpose or afterlife or understandable explanation; of course i do have motivation troubles

Posted by: furtherbeyond at December 12, 2009 9:56 PM

5) Certain commenters. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 6:24 PM

I know how you feel, Lainey annoys the hell out of me too.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 12, 2009 9:56 PM

Diablo, if you can explain the difference between a child and a 'fucking child', or an adult and a 'fucking adult', I'll concede you have a point.

And I'm aware that language changes and evolves - the word 'bloody' in England has undergone a similar transformation to what is happening to 'fuck'. I'm not complaining about its use, I'm complaining about its power becoming diluted. Swearing can be very effective, used sparingly and thoughtfully.

But when fuck is just a fucking adjective used for no fucking good reason, and other fucking adjectives get fucking forgotten, it's a fucking shame.

Posted by: greg at December 12, 2009 10:00 PM

My "Don't get me started" rant changes all the time. Something that riled me a couple years ago may not faze me now. For instance, I used to get all worked up about this guy named Ezzo who wrote child care books that were total crap. He came out of a church where he'd been teaching a parenting class and was not in any way a childcare expert and his teachings often lead to problems with breastfeeding mothers. That was back when I had my first kid and got all worked up about parenting issues. Now I don't care but casually roll my eyes if anyone mentions his books. I also went through a phase of being vehemently worked up about prosperity gospel preachers like Joel Osteen. Those greedy bastards still piss me off, but I don't rant and rave like I used to--perhaps because I'm no longer around friends who get into that shit. My fundamentalist friends and family now live far away so I'm not face-to-face with people reading Ezzo or watching Osteen (thank Godtopus).

Now my main beef is with people who can't turn in their own turn lane. How hard is it to recognize when there are two turn lanes that you should STAY IN YOUR OWN LANE. There's a place locally where I always assume idiots are going to turn into my lane so I have to watch out for them. Nimrods.

Posted by: lainiefig at December 12, 2009 10:01 PM

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 9:27 PM

I'm quite willing to admit that there were quite a few oversimplifications and generalisations in what I said, but that's bound to happen when you try to condense a massive argument into a few short points. Also when the entire point is to expound on what annoys me about the subject, not talking about the few things that aren't so bad about it isn't ignoring them, it's just not relevant to the topic at hand.

Maybe arguing back against it is kind of against the point of the thread but I'll do it anyway. "Secular Society" was maybe a poor choice of words. Instead I offer "Cultural Zeitgeist" which I think does a better job of capturing what I was trying to say. Obviously peoples' beliefs inform their morals, but it seems to me that religion has to be dragged kicking and screaming (gay marriage and abortion come to mind).

Obviously war is a complex subject, but WWII wouldn't have begun in the first place if the idea of the German state didn't exist. Wars seem to me to begin when a politician whips up their base against another group, in the case of germany it was the Jews, but other religions and states are often used also.

Posted by: Chugga at December 12, 2009 10:01 PM

Ooooh, yeah, and what Fredo said. Both points 1 and 2. Marvelously well put!

Posted by: meaux at December 12, 2009 10:01 PM

Those "preachy" self-righteous vegetarians/vegans for so many reasons.

Pretty much anyone who thinks their opinion is the only right one and can never just accept people for who they are. I'm a good person. When I am made to feel bad for any choices I may make (whether it is to eat meat, raise my daughter Catholic, or buy someone a Snuggie for Christmas - cause they wanted one) there is something wrong with that person.

It infuriates me when people have to be negative just for the sake of "voicing their stance" on something. Anything.

Someone recently ACTUALLY shit all over my idea of buying someone a Snuggie for Christmas. My little bro wanted one. I took note of that. I made the mistake of mentioning it to a certain someone and they impose their negative position on Snuggies as if it was so damn controversial or something. Its a SNUGGIE! Not a bottle of Vicodin. You don't need a "stance" and I didn't ask for your bitter-ass opinion. If someone wants a blanket with arms, I'm going to try to get it for them. Whats the problem?? ....


(breathes)


Ok. I gotta stop before I get too ranty.


Anyway, I'm a big fan of kindness and mean people who THINK they're nice and love themselves for it but really they're assholes just suck huge,wrinkly rhinoceros balls.

Posted by: bubblegumshoe at December 12, 2009 10:17 PM

oh and i hate people who believe in stuff just cause they can make sounds with theyre mouths into words and then statements and the like, in innane attempts to defend or describe or embelish or just pollute my air and infringe, infringe, infringe

Posted by: furtherbeyond at December 12, 2009 10:18 PM

like you know anything about why someone gambles and enjoys it, anything at all, for that matter

Posted by: furtherbeyond at December 12, 2009 10:21 PM

Boy howdy, the trolls are out tonight.

Posted by: Tammy at December 12, 2009 10:22 PM

On a totally unrelated-to-anything-else note, I can't believe no one mentioned that duck-face/pouty lipped pose people make on their Facebook pics. Is there anyone who doesn't hate that?

Posted by: Dude Manbro at December 12, 2009 10:22 PM

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 9:47 PM

So, the people who are getting upearly in the morning or taking off from work and using their right to vote, the one that people got beaten and attacked by dogs for, the one that is kept in place by a civil rights act that has to be renewed instead of accepted outright, the people who are doing what they can within the law...THEY are the ones who are somehow doing less that the guy who is just bitching and moaning.

Yeah, I totally don't understand how history supports that.

I'm quite willing to admit that there were quite a few oversimplifications and generalisations in what I said, but that's bound to happen when you try to condense a massive argument into a few short points. Also when the entire point is to expound on what annoys me about the subject, not talking about the few things that aren't so bad about it isn't ignoring them, it's just not relevant to the topic at hand.

But it is relevant. If your point is how religion makes people do evil things, then the good things do matter. Generalizing points is indeed ignoring details that may be pertinent to the discussion. Just because you edit out conflicting information, it doesn't make your point any more valid. Especially when it is something that would be subject to challenge.

Maybe arguing back against it is kind of against the point of the thread but I'll do it anyway. "Secular Society" was maybe a poor choice of words. Instead I offer "Cultural Zeitgeist" which I think does a better job of capturing what I was trying to say. Obviously peoples' beliefs inform their morals, but it seems to me that religion has to be dragged kicking and screaming (gay marriage and abortion come to mind).

But the "cultural zeitgeist" is malleable by nature. It shouldn't be used as a moral barometer. Actually, if it wasn't for people rebelling against the current cultural zeitgeist (one of exclusion and ignorance), things wouldn't change at all.

And again, with the generalization, you ignore that there are many religious people who support abortion and gay marriage. they may be overshadowed by the loudmouth idiots against it, but that isn't their fault. The loudmouths make better play.

Obviously war is a complex subject, but WWII wouldn't have begun in the first place if the idea of the German state didn't exist. Wars seem to me to begin when a politician whips up their base against another group, in the case of germany it was the Jews, but other religions and states are often used also.

Again, it wasn't as simple as them deciding to get nationalistic. Germany was on the verge of collapse. The Jews were simply the easiest target at the time, it could have been anyone or anything.

It goes back to the concept of self-defense. Those people thought their way of life, their homes, their lives were in danger. People were scared, and fear makes people do things they would not have considered otherwise. Manipulating peoples fears is a very effective tool, and things like religion and patriotism are serve as a mask for it, rather than the problem itself.

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 10:28 PM

I hear you furtherbeyond, like you wanted to get busted for holding something for a friend and your so called family turns their back on you and want nothing to do with you. No matter how much you apologize they still look down on you with their noses in the air.

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 10:32 PM

exactly.

Posted by: furtherbeyond at December 12, 2009 10:42 PM

Vermillion is that really what you got out of what I wrote? Once again, actions start out as thoughts, those people that were beaten and attacked by dogs started out “Voicing” their displeasure with a system that was both brutal and demeaning. They went from voicing their opinions to acting on their displeasure. You will not be taking seriously if you’re going to sit here and browbeat someone simply for a having a different view about the political process. Sometimes Vermillion I don't know which is greater, your arrogance or your ignorance.

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 10:51 PM

Way to kill a perfectly good thread, trolls. Night, ya'll.

Posted by: Tammy at December 12, 2009 10:54 PM

Chugga, WWII started because a bitchslapped and humiliated Germany thought they deserved some payback from WWI.

I think it's sadder that WWI ever began, because that's where the goddamn bloodiest century in human history started, and it all came about because a small number of uninformed leaders let themselves be convinced that not rushing to war was tantamount to failure of the nationstate.

Speaking of which, don't get me started on the kind of cowardice in leaders that precludes admitting one's own mistakes.

Posted by: Johnnyboy at December 12, 2009 10:55 PM

I'm with ya, Dude Manbro. Especially when they try to act all serious as if they aren't aware of themselves taking their own picture. HaHA

Posted by: bubblegumshoe at December 12, 2009 10:56 PM

As a college student who will be giving her thesis presentation in less than a year, nothing makes me want to start yelling quite like people who come to a symposium to see their friend give a paper and then leave once said friend is done, usually right when the next person is starting to give his thesis. OH MY GOD. These presentations are ONLY 50 MINUTES. They take place during class time, so in order to have come to see your friend's speech, you must have skipped your class anyway so it's not like you can use getting back to class as an excuse. Not only is it incredibly rude to the people who still have papers to give, you're shortchanging yourself by leaving early and missing out on really interesting presenations.

The worst was last week. A couple of kids who are involved with the campus's catholic student ministry gave presentations, and some of their friends came. They all left after their friends gave their paper, INCLUDING A PRIEST. I was so close to yelling "WHAT WOULD JESUS SAY ABOUT THIS" to him. I'm pretty sure Jesus wouldn't have been so rude as to leave while another girl was talking.

(When I give my theis, I am making the professors lock the doors. Fuck fire hazards.)

Posted by: Claire at December 12, 2009 10:56 PM

TAMMY, i was digging your style, "gets my hackles up" and whatnot, the whole bs nice guy rant, but then you got all hostile, and i realized you werent doing it for the right reasons but because youre just a cunt; i mean i ve been reading this site daily for almost five years and just cause i have commented 10 times doesnt mean... ah fuck it

Posted by: elitest lurker at December 12, 2009 11:10 PM

Once again, actions start out as thoughts, those people that were beaten and attacked by dogs started out “Voicing” their displeasure with a system that was both brutal and demeaning. They went from voicing their opinions to acting on their displeasure.

And my point was that you can think or say whatever you want. It is when you act on those thoughts that things change. So why would I consider a guy who sits back complaining in any way as effective as someone who is actively doing something to change things?

Words are words. They only make a difference when people do something to enact them. So as soon as whats-his-face goes and does something to back up his words, then I will consider his view with more validity. But as long as he can complain about other people who ARE acting on their words or thoughts, he gets jack from me.

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 11:11 PM

Tammy,

You’re so right, let us start a discussion about how great Ryan Reynolds’s abs look.


Claire,

That’s what friends do, they care about and support your shit and your shit only. Would you feel better if everyone stayed and had that when the fuck is this shit over with look in their eyes? I don't want to be rude, but when you give your thesis presentation next year everyone that's in that classroom is going to say, when is this shit over with. Nothing against you, you could have the best thesis in the world, but people have short attention spans.

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 11:12 PM

YES, I got called a cunt by a troller. Now them's some Pajiba cred, ya'll. (Thanks to the rest of you who have kept the thread going. Bring on the fresh rants!)

Posted by: Tammy at December 12, 2009 11:18 PM

Vermillion, might I add condescension to your portfolio? We could go round and round but quite frankly you sound like you got some of that “Hen” in you and you might be looking for a fight tonight. But I have to get up in the morning for services, I’m in training to be a deacon.

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 11:22 PM

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 10:28 PM

My point is not so much that religion makes people do evil things, it's that religion is easily manipulated by people to make others do "evil" things. People are the problem, but religion is a powerful tool.

I'm quite happy to discuss this further, but given that the whole point of the thread was to lay out things that annoy you and turn you into an asshole, I didn't really worry too much about presenting it as a strong begining to an argument. This thread really isn't a good place to argue it but you're welcome to email me at chuggga at gmail, if you're interested in taking it further. I promise I'm less of a dick than I seem when I actually bother to lay out an argument instead of just a rant.

Posted by: Johnnyboy at December 12, 2009 10:55 PM

I can't say I disagree with any of what you said there, but it doesn't seem all that contradictory to what I said anyway.

Posted by: Chugga at December 12, 2009 11:24 PM

No, The Hands Team, I am not some petty little wannabe anarchist. I have voluntarily served this country. I did six years in the military, with deployments for both Iraq and Afghanistan. I watched as both political parties raced each other to vote for a war that we in the military knew was a terrible fucking quagmire waiting to happen and anyone with an ounce of common sense knew that too at the time. Then I watched as a democratic majority was elected with "a mandate from the people" to end the fucking Iraq war and bring some semblance of a strategy to Afghanistan and promptly did nothing for months to end the madness. I've buried friends while our political leaders pussyfoot around and waste time because they want to appear tough for their cold call polls. I believe in our federal system. It isn't the political parties that have failed. Its the average US citizen....the ones that can't find Washington DC on a map let alone understand the historical difference between Iraq and Iran, that have turned the US government into a shit pile. We deserve to get screwed over on bailouts, watch as inflation sky rockets, and our institutions crumble. We have no one else to blame but ourselves.

Posted by: Diablo at December 12, 2009 11:26 PM

Tammy I resent you accusing me of calling you the c word. I don’t use that word and I wish that deplorable word was stricken from the American lexicon. I’m simply stating that these threads can take a life of their own.

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 11:27 PM

I can't stand groups of people taking up the ENTIRE sidewalk. They don't move when you are trying to pass by!! Rawr!!!
The worst was when I was living in Aberdeen, Scotland. My boyfriend (now hubs) finally couldn't take it anymore and hip checked someone into a wall. Hockey style. That's my man.

Posted by: Kiddo at December 12, 2009 11:31 PM

Dude, Guess Whookie, unless you are posting under two names, I wasn't talking about you. Dude up the thread dropped the c-bomb with regard to me.

Chalk that up to rant number...I've lost count: Oversensitivity on the InterTubes.

Posted by: Tammy at December 12, 2009 11:33 PM

I also can't stand it wen ppl rite 2 u n ..it takes twice as long to decipher it! Please, oh please, write complete words.

Posted by: Kiddo at December 12, 2009 11:39 PM

I promise I'm less of a dick than I seem when I actually bother to lay out an argument instead of just a rant.

I am sure you are not a dick (unlike some commenters). And I understand the the irritation, believe me I do. And yeah, it is a thread about pet peeves, so it is kinda fitting you happened to hit one of mine. Still, thanks for entertaining my ramblings.

No, The Hands Team, I am not some petty little wannabe anarchist.

Glad to hear it. And I respect your service to our country.

I suppose any talk of voting being pointless is another pet peeve of mine. Seeing how people died for it over and over again, I just can't see it as being useless. I may never pick up a gun to defend this nation, so the least I can do is try to get the right people in place, so that when people like you do go, you have the support you need to get back.

I understand the frustration with the system. And I agree, it has come to a point where the two supposed sides are near indistinguishable. And I definitely agree that we get the government we deserve. Too many people let themselves be distracted by nonsense to understand how they are going against their own interests, not to mention those for the good of the nation.

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 11:40 PM

I'm sorry Tammy but whenever I see that word it disgusts me greatly. I ask for your forgiveness.

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 11:41 PM

I also can't stand it wen ppl rite 2 u n ..it takes twice as long to decipher it! Please, oh please, write complete words.

Texting in general, but especially on goddamn cell phones. I don't have, nor want to have, a data or text plan on my cell account. And I don't like trying to tippy-type on that keyboard to respond. You have a phone right there, CALL ME AND USE YOU VOICE GODDAMMIT!

Posted by: The Hands Team (formerly Vermillion) at December 12, 2009 11:43 PM

Chugga, not arguing, just expounding I s'pose. I think we were saying the same thing, just saying why single out Germany when this planet is so very rich with countries having fuckwads at the helm.

Posted by: Johnnyboy at December 12, 2009 11:44 PM

Johnnyboy, I wasn't really singling out Germany and I personally am a big fan of the country. But the alternatives countries that spring to mind for me are the US and Israel, and I really, really didn't want to open that can of worms.

Posted by: Chugga at December 12, 2009 11:49 PM

Chigga please!

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 12, 2009 11:51 PM

hmmmm ... I wanted to make a funny haha, but it's too late. Plus we essentially agree. G'nite, Chugs.

Posted by: Johnnyboy at December 13, 2009 12:07 AM

i thought you had gone to bed, tammy,you and all youre judgements and rules and exclusive-ness - why dont you continue the thread, you c - i mean, hell, we had "bring out the troll day" and it was a huge success, cept for you, and i type cept not because i m a big texter but because i m lazy, but i suppose you have a problem with that too, well thats just perfect...for this thread!

Posted by: elitist lurker tammy at December 13, 2009 12:28 AM

I live in the Middle East and I HATE it when I mention something I'm eating to somebody back home and they say "Oh my gosh, they have that there?". I don't live on the motherfucking moon, bitches. Don't be shocked when I'm eating Easy Mac or Cheetos or Tuna Helper (I'm a real health nut). The prices are marked the hell up, but totally worth it to have some stuff that reminds you of home (except the Tropicana orange juice, I won't even pay the money they want for that).

Posted by: Say Hello to my Camel at December 13, 2009 12:55 AM

The over diagnosis of ADD/ADHD. Oh my god just because you're rich and put your child in an expensive private school does not mean he will succeed in life. If he is a dumb shit and lazy it is likely your fault as a parent not a chemical imbalance that needs to be cured with adderall and ritalin. MAKE YOUR SHIT OF A SON DO A CHORE OR SOMETHING. If you haven't noticed his attention is just fine when he is playing video games. You are not guaranteed a smart child just because you can pay for everything. And you most certainly are not entitled to one. STOP MEDICATING YOUR CHILDREN AND BE A PARENT!!!!!


***I acknowledge that some people legitimately have serious issues with ADD and SQUIRREL there is little they can do about it. But when my mother's 4th grade class is half girls and half adderall junkie idiot boys there is a serious problem. Boys will be boys my ass. Make your idiot of a son do some goddamn work for once. There is no quick fix for stupid. In all likelihood it's genetic bitch!

Posted by: E-money at December 13, 2009 1:00 AM

I know how you feel, Lainey annoys the hell out of me too.
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 12, 2009 9:56 PM

Quiet, YOU!

Posted by: Lainey at December 13, 2009 1:12 AM

Tell us which issue is guaranteed to turn you into a self-righteous flaming asshole.

There are only two issues that can turn me into a self-righteous asshole. Issues I hear in the day, and issues I hear at night.

Posted by: George at December 13, 2009 1:21 AM

I can't really comment on the lottery thing, as I won $100,000 on a scratch ticket that was given to me as a gift a couple years ago. I never told the giver (she's a penny-pincher who would just about shit herself if she found out), and me and the Mrs paid off a third of our new house, bam, just like that.

As far as don't get me started rants, I've got a few: religion, immigration, stupid racism, ridiculous jingoistic 'patriotism', and the lack of a fucking R18+ rating for video games in my stupid country.

Posted by: Ed at December 13, 2009 1:33 AM

Anybody trying to force their religious beliefs on others sets me right the hell off. Just because you think that God created the Earth in 7 days, and that fossils are a test of your faith doesn't mean I have to buy into your horseshit. On the other side of the coin, just because you believe that there is no god and that all we have to look forward to after our time is up is oblivion, doesn't mean that everyone has to think that way. Believe whatever you want to believe, but keep it to yourself.

Also, the concept of "reverse racism". No...just fucking...no. It's either racism or it isn't. Trying living in the Bronx as a white guy and tell me it's not racism when you get stared at for having the audacity to be white and walking down the street.

Posted by: TheMaskedEmu at December 13, 2009 2:03 AM

I work in a vet clinic part time and my biggest pet peeve is when people don't stay while their animal is being euthanized.

Hell, pet peeve? It's more like being filled with such an odd combination of rage and sorrow that I want to reach across the desk and throttle the person while bawling my eyes out.

Because you know what happens when you don't stay? I have to be the one who holds and comforts your pet while the needle goes in and no matter how soothingly I speak to them and how gently I pet them they are still fucking terrified. Because they're in a strange smelling place with strange people holding them and they can't figure out why their person isn't there.

And that look in their eyes? That look of terror and confusion haunts my fucking dreams. All because you weak motherfuckers can't "handle" it. Well guess what... it isn't about YOU, you stupid dumb shit. You're supposed to be there for your pet for everything and that means being there at the very end. As difficult as it is for you to watch your pet die, believe me it's a thousand times worse for them.

So suck it the fuck up and be there. Or simply stay with them until they're sedated and asleep and then leave. You don't have to watch the actual death but they get to go to sleep while their person holds them. Is that too much to ask?

Apparently it is because the sheer number of people who leave is mind boggling. And the moment they choose to walk out of that room because they can't handle it I lose any sympathy for them.

I want to punch them right in their stupid, fucking faces.

God I hate people.

Posted by: Kelly at December 13, 2009 2:05 AM

Slim, If there's one thing I hate - it's people dumping on my friends. Lainey RULES!

sheesh. Now how do I begin? Let's see...I think I'll hop onto the admin train (at the risk of being one of those annoying 'joiner' types) and say: Discipline your kid!

OhMahGawd! I know naval base commanders, kick ass sales gods, and school teachers - people who can get most other humans to do whatever they say, and yet, somehow, some way they cannot say - "stop that crap immediately or you will lose a privilege" (or whatever form of child management you prefer - I don't care what it is, whatever establishes that YOU in fact, are the adult, and that THEY are a small creature whose very survival depends upon them staying in your favor) to their own children.

Really - I have never seen so many grown human beings seemingly incapable of saying the word 'no' as I have since my eldest entered Kindergarten.

Kids need to have a pillar of strength. Someone to look up to, to model their behaviour on. Someone to nurture, guide and establish limits so that they can thrive as strong, independent individuals who can accept hearing the word no, and who can establish alternate plans based upon the fact that they must accomplish goals in harmony with their peers. Children who will know how to rebel against incompetency and misdirection by virtue of recognizing an unfair judgment since they understand what a fair judgment looks like! They need to know for a fact that their parents and mentors have a strong moral core that can be relied upon, that is in fact the very basis of their power as a mature adult. Kids need to know that they cannot, and should not be responsible for the choices and decisions that affect the course of their day. It unnerves and confuses a child to think that he can call the shots – for if someone so completely unprepared for the consequences of that task is somehow holding all the power – what the hell does that say about the destiny of the outside world?

Frankly it’s clowns and cabooses ahead, toddling down the jellybean lane towards complete and utter squander of every resource necessary to our survival unless these people GROW SOME BALLS!!! (ref. in honor of TBB).

Posted by: replica at December 13, 2009 2:14 AM

--Overage Twilight fans. Grow the fuck up. I almost punched a girl in the face when she told me they were "well-written books". Seriously. I quarter-cocked my fist (pause on that). These people have replaced 45 year old Harry Potter fans as the bottom rung of the literary world.

--Bible Nazis. Christian Morals = Good. Christian Truthiness = Bad bad bad.

--And Sarah Palin voters. I used to be more liberal, recently moved center left. And I completely understand people who are fiscally conservative, support gun rights (it's hunting country out here), and I do UNDERSTAND the anti-abortion issue. But how you can vote for this dimwitted twat is further proof that Idiocracy is a more accurate depiction of the future than standard sci-fi. This lady is just not intelligent. Period. You cannot vote for someone who is not smart. It's in the Constitution, just read the fine print.

All of this falls under a category of stupid I have recently dubbed "Argumentative Ignorance". Which isn't a persons inability to win an argument, it is more a person's inability to acknowledge logic pertaining to the opposition's side.

These people are the one's who really piss you off, because no matter how simple you try to put things, or how many "trap questions" you use, they will always revert to some confounded belief they have converted in a universal truth. So by labeling them as "argumentally ignorant" I can skip a little frustration, and put a smart spin on the word "dumb".

My recent favorite exchange. Please imagine someone channeling Louis CK;

Lady: "You know, Jesus died for you sins!"

Me: "Well...then Jesus was pretty god-damn retarded..."

Lady: "EXCUSE ME!"

Me: "Hey, lady, I wouldn't die for my sins. My sins are fun and full of zany hijinks, drug-induced meditations on existentialist ideas and funny stories! They're great!"

Lady: "(gasping)"

Me: "Oh! And sex! Man, Jesus could die, like, a thousand deaths and it still wouldn't make me feel bad about having an orgasm in another person's body!"

Oh, that was fun. Used up all of my wit for the week in that conversation.

Posted by: D-Day at December 13, 2009 2:17 AM

Posted by: Kelly at December 13, 2009 2:05 AM

That was easily among the most horrible things I've ever read. How someone could walk away from their pet like that I'll never know. It's the end of their life asshole! The least you could do is be present for it!

Posted by: Chugga at December 13, 2009 2:26 AM

Lack of originality and the inability to try new things. Those right there...deal breaker.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at December 13, 2009 3:56 AM

Cliche is a noun. Cliched is an adjective. THIS SHOULD NOT BE THAT DIFFICULT. Yet somehow, throughout the world the difference is slipping away. It makes me want to SCREAM. I mock reporters who slip up so mercilessly when editing their copy that they never make the mistake again, so maybe, just maybe, we can turn the tide.

Posted by: CDub at December 13, 2009 5:09 AM

In no specific order,

1) I work in a hostel in Canada. Thousands of people come here from all around the world. In Canada we are all grown up and have our own dollar. We don't take USD, euros, or pounds... You can exchange your money IN THE AIRPORT! Why are people so surprised when we don't take their money??

2) Vanity pets.

3) Defending somebody's crimes because of their "contribution" to the world/society/culture... *cough* Polanski *cough*

4) I don't eat red meat and I have a strong sense of faith/spirituality. I don't "preach" it or even talk about it often. Please don't be angry with me because of my beliefs. They don't affect you in anyway. You would have no idea unless I told you.

5) "That's so gay."

Posted by: Amanda at December 13, 2009 8:16 AM

Okay, Kelly, since you went there.

I knew this one stupid bitch who adopted a dog that was left tied to a tree in our park. We were all "Wow. What a wonderful person she is." .. until about a year later when she "had to" move out of her apartment to one that didn't allow pets ... yeah, fill in the remaining details ... best part was she called the pound every one of the remaining five days of her dog's life to see if anyone had picked him up yet. But nope, he died. I had a friend who worked at the shelter and she was like "what the fuck is wrong with this person?"

Props to you, though, for doing what needs to be done and apparently doing it well.

Posted by: Johnnyboy at December 13, 2009 8:45 AM

Fashion.

I hate the fucking thing with a passion. It's the most overrated industry in the world. No, I don't need some asshole on T.V telling me what I should and should not wear. Just because you're following the masses you're not being fashionable. You're a sheep who can't think for yourself. Fashion is just a fad in the minds of people. Get this, everything is fashionable. What goes around comes around and what you're wearing today will be fashionable again tomorrow. Who cares what you're wearing? You don't even know anything about the HISTORY OF CLOTHES. Real changes in clothing happened throughout the ages because of different needs and not because some hip designer came up with some cool idea. Unless the needs change (like for example from being a woman who lives around the house in the 18th century and doesn't do much because there's a maid to being a working, driving , soccer mum) clothes don't change significantly. You know when you wear a mini-skirt in mid winter even though it's ten degrees celsius because it's supposed to be fashionable? You DON'T LOOK SEXY. You just look like a shivering idiot who didn't bother checking the weather before going out. And dear, just because the T.V said something is fashionable, it doesn't mean it suits you. It's made for people of different dimensions so don't bother wearing it.

And what about beauticians and fashion gurus who give you advise on what to wear and do to your body? STUFF THEM! They're sapping away your hard earned money to give you their personal take on your look. You are beautiful just the way you are. I genuinely believe this. Mother nature made us all beautiful. I'm not saying we shouldn't do anything at all to change our own image. You want to cut your hair or put on some make-up? Fine, but after going to the beautician most people come out looking worse than when they went in. Why? Too much artificality. Personally, I think one of the best ways of looking at someone is as soon as they wake up. We are beautiful in our nakedness with all our faults showing. There's nothing wrong if you're a bit overweight or whatever. There's nothing wrong with having greying hair. No, you don't need a boob job. Your tits are just fine. You are great and you sure as hell don't need botox.

Fuck you fashion. Fuck you big time. And people who give in to every advert or every current craze in the way you should look are SUCKERS.

Go on. Call me a prick but deep down you know I'm right...

NOW DON'T GET ME STARTED ABOUT STEREOTYPES...

Posted by: barf at December 13, 2009 8:58 AM

People who litter! Completely unacceptable.

People who spend more money on their pocketbook than on their kids' shoes.

Posted by: HopeHope at December 13, 2009 9:23 AM

Nice work on this thread. Just read all of them

Someone commented about the use of 'can not' and cannot. These are two different things and are (or at least should) be used differently. Can not means you have no obligation to do something. Cannot means you are not able to do something.

Example: I can not come to the party but I'm still coming.

I cannot come to the party because I have an appointment with the doctor.

Posted by: barf at December 13, 2009 9:58 AM

I'm saving up my mental health for the holidays, so I won't be contributing to this thread.

But Squeeziee, I hope this brightens your day just the tiniest bit: I've met Andie MacDowell, and she has the personality of a pet rock. There's no there there. So when you see her on the commercials for the skin/hair/pathetic anti-aging products, don't hate her too much. It's all she's got.

Posted by: marya at December 13, 2009 10:08 AM

People who buy/breed pets instead of adopting. It just doesn't make sense. Adopting is usually cheaper and you get to make a difference in the homeless pet population. Buying/breeding is an act of animal racism and is a big waste of money.

Oh and if a breed is just that important to you, find a rescue group of that breed, they're fuckin everywhere. That is if you can't find it at a shelter/adoption group. I adopted a bengal cat for 100 while my friend bought one from a breeder for 800. How does that make sense???

*Note I didn't know Cesar was a bengal at the time I just thought he was uber cute. Turns out he is a full blood bengal who wasn't show material so he and his sister was abandoned to a cat colony before getting rescued. But he's the best pet ever.

Posted by: M at December 13, 2009 10:14 AM

Here's something else which pisses me off, equality, the way it is often practiced.

Either we are equal or we aren't, in everything. When most women argue for equality they basically mean that they want to be equal as men as long as it's in their interest to do so. You don't exactly see them queuing up to do heavy manual work and you're looked at as if you're a monster if you ask them to do so. When you go shopping they expect to buy and carry their handbag and you're expected to carry all the bags.

If an institution tells them that they should wear a skirt they kick up a stink on how sexist it is for not allowing them to wear a pair of trousers but they'll be the first to pass criticism on a man wearing a skirt 9we had a whole issue about this in our law courts around here. At least when the rules were women should wear skirts and men should wear trousers the system was equal. Now women have one more choice than men do. That's not equality)

If on the bus you stand up for a lady to take your seat she glares at you with a look saying "do you think I'm an invalid?" but then it's bad manners if you don't open a door to a restaurant for her and let her go in first. And god help you if you're not going to pay for the expenses of a date, especially a first one.

Equality? Then why do you call each other sluts? This is one of the worst words in the English language. What are the words for a guy who sleeps around? playboy, ladies' man, womanizer. What are the words for a woman who sleeps around? Slut, whore. Hardly the same connotations. Stop it now! Respect your own sex.

Women get paid maternity leave from work but paid paternity leave does not exist. How is that equal? Stop bitching about how hard being a mummy is. Who said being a daddy is a walk in the park?

If you think it's alright for a guy to receive a punch and you think we are equal, don't look so shocked if you ever receive one. I don't encourage violence one little bit but just by the virtue of having a vagina it doesn't make you untouchable.

It does work the other way round too. When governments speak of family-friendly-measures at work places, they usually talk about measures which help women keep up with housekeeping, bringing up a child and having a job. Where does the FAMILY come into this? There's supposed to be another partner (single-parents excluded) so let's get the partner into the picture and make him carry his responsibility. No, just working isn't fine. Find the time to do the washing and help your children with their school homework too.

We are still far off from a truly equal society where the difference in gender genuinely makes very little difference.

Posted by: barf at December 13, 2009 10:27 AM

Ahhhhh NOTHING warms my heart and remaining cocklestone like Jibs bringing the bitchy! I thank you one and all!
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Posted by: spoobnooble at December 12, 2009 8:05 PM

Me too. Another blog I visit had a post about a sick little boy (leukemia or something) whose name was Genre. Before I could think twice I launched into some intemperate remarks directed at his parents that (rightfully) got deleted by the blog host, and for which I apologized later. I'll let you all imagine what I wrote, but it included the words "Bad enough ..."

Down on the list of minor peeves: When did everything become an "event"? You notice? Stores don't hold "sales" or "grand openings" anymore, they hold a "sales event" or a "grand opening event." Given that "event" is among the most-generic, least-descriptive words I can think of, what is the point? To make your pathetic little sale seem more important than it is by being redundant?

Pretentious buttholes.

(BTW, I am reigning in my casual cursing for the moment in a nod to those who mention it as a peeve.)

Posted by: , at December 13, 2009 11:15 AM

Since major global-type pet peeves have been covered (religion, gays, abortion, lotteries, self-righteous and completely uncalled for sense of entitlement etc.)...

On a personal level, I absolutely hate people who criticize my eating habits. I haven't voluntarily eaten a fruit or vegetable since I was on solid food - they taste bad, bad, terrible, dear gods I may gag, can I cut it small enough to swallow whole... If it has a growing season and can't be made into flour, I'm not eating it.

I'm 50 - this isn't going to change. You aren't going to guilt me into it, I don't care what kind of example I set for your kids (who, I notice, aren't my responsibility). You cannot hide them behind sauces or spice blends. You cannot steam them, blanch them, blend them, juice them. You cannot lecture me about heart disease, diabetes, regularity, or poor suffering cows. I am an adult, I pay my own way, and if I prefer to eat a meal that doesn't make me throw up afterwards, then I've earned the right to do so.

So take your odd little exotic fruits and weird-ass organic, local produce and your "I'm only doing this because I love you" and leave me the hell alone. Enjoy your cranberry and pencil shavings. I have a white pizza in the oven and I'm having it for breakfast.

Posted by: funtime42 at December 13, 2009 11:42 AM

"Nice Guy" syndrome.Tammy Despite the slinging that came after. word to the A, Girl.

Hey Nice Guy. Maybe you're fucking boring. Maybe you think buying shit or taking me out is buying your way into my pants. Maybe you think the courtship ritual is a socially approved prostitution dealie.

Maybe you're too much too soon, maybe you get on my nerves. Maybe you have no idea how to honestly evaluate yourself to know what your "league" is and you think you need to constantly overreach and get bunted down.

Maybe you need to take badass lessons from Diablo. Cause he burns britches.

Posted by: Stacy D at December 13, 2009 11:45 AM

Oh, and casual cussing nonfans. Sorry. I'm a whore.

Posted by: Stacy D at December 13, 2009 11:47 AM

Amanda, thanks so much for representing!

I don't make a big deal out of my personal diet/religious choices, as they are just that -- personal. You can eat whatever you want! It's your choice! I'm not a hater, yo. Someone wants to ask me why I've made my choices, sure, yeah, I'll tell them. But my job isn't to preach or convert, and, frankly, it makes me very uncomfortable when other people behave like that, because I believe that people have the ability to make their own decisions. Not all vegetarians are assholes, I swear on a stack o' bibles with cherries on top!

The ones that are assholes do make me cringe, though, and tend to give the rest of us a bad name.

Posted by: linny at December 13, 2009 12:08 PM

God I was so happy that Mark Ingram won the Heisman Trophy last night. I’m just glad that tobacco chewing, deer hunting inbreed Colt McCoy didn’t win jack shit. I hope he goes out and gets his leg broken in the Championship game and has to have a metal rod put in it and ends up walking with a noticeable limp like one of the goons in any movie that has a goon walking around in it with a noticeable limp thereby diminishing his chances of marrying a hot lady one day.

Yes I wish him a horrible fate, I wish it because that son of a bitch and the referees cheated Nebraska out of the Big 12 Championship.

P.S. Stacy D, honey, sugar, in the history of dating has any woman that has ever dated a guy that goes by the name of Diablo ended up having anything good to say about him?

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 13, 2009 12:14 PM

funtime42, I feel ya. My guy doesn't like a lot of veggies - mushrooms, onions and zucchini, peppers, and squash to name a few. When I make a meal for the both of us, I don't try and change his palate and force him to eat something we both know he doesn't like -- I try and make something we both want to eat. And if I need a little more green on my plate, I steam me up some extra veggies, and we're both happy. He's a grown man, he knows what he does and doesn't like, and I'm not his mother.

Posted by: linny at December 13, 2009 12:17 PM

All you ladies out there that want to force your meal tickets to eat veggies are on some passive aggressive bullshit. In the history of fixing a motherfucker some dinner has a man ever said “oh honey I’d like some steamed vegetables and some hot tea?”

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 13, 2009 12:27 PM

Guess who, read all of my comments. I don't judge. I don't preach. I don't force people to eat what they don't want to eat, nor do I try and sneak it onto their plates. I enjoy eating food, and like others to enjoy what they are eating too. If that's directed at me, you're on the wrong track.

And if my mere, steamed-veggie eating presence is considered to be an act of passive aggressiveness, then you can go fuck yourself with a carrot stick.

Posted by: linny at December 13, 2009 12:33 PM

No it wasn’t directed at you linny, I’ve been around vegetarians my entire life. My sister was a vegetarian and had no problem with shitting on meat eaters when the opportunity arose. Family get-togethers were a sight to behold, her and her vegan friends and their condescension. I’m not really a carrot type of guy.

Posted by: Guess Who! at December 13, 2009 12:42 PM

Guess Who!, this motherfucker has said that. A man can't have a yen for steamed veggies or hot tea?

Posted by: TheMaskedEmu at December 13, 2009 12:51 PM

The whole Tiger Woods saga. The guy is a jerk...but to read sportswriters proclaim that he owes his fans an apology for messing up his personal life... No he doesn't. He only has to apologize to his family...no one else. John Daley is a self destructive, gambling alcoholic yet no jackass from some shit hole paper has demanded that he apologize for showing up to an event drunk off his ass.

Also, lets pretend for one moment that instead of Tiger receiving the violence from his wife, he was the one chasing her down with the golf club. He would be the next OJ Simpson, with no hope of rehabbing his image or having a career. It doesn't matter how justified someone feels, spousal abuse is wrong. If your going to rationalize that, you may as well do the same for child abuse.

Also, why are people so shocked? He was pulling in a billion dollars a year, traveling all over the planet, and women came out of the woodwork to fuck him. Hell with that much money, I wouldn't be surprised if he and a bunch of fellow billionaires were hunting homeless people for sports in the streets of Detroit...wait a minute.. wasn't that a Wesley Snipes movie?

The guy was paid to play golf. If people believed him to be some perfect person...they are an idiot and it's not Tiger's fault that he can't live up to the standards of their fantasy world. (To be fair and completely honest, if it had been my sister he cheated on and my nieces...I would have buried a golf club into the base of his skull, but since it's not, its really none of my business).

And besides...golf is fucking stupid...how the hell do people watch that crap?

Posted by: Diablo at December 13, 2009 12:51 PM

The whole Tiger Woods saga. The guy is a jerk...but to read sportswriters proclaim that he owes his fans an apology for messing up his personal life... No he doesn't. He only has to apologize to his family...no one else. John Daley is a self destructive, gambling alcoholic yet no jackass from some shit hole paper has demanded that he apologize for showing up to an event drunk off his ass.

Also, lets pretend for one moment that instead of Tiger receiving the violence from his wife, he was the one chasing her down with the golf club. He would be the next OJ Simpson, with no hope of rehabbing his image or having a career. It doesn't matter how justified someone feels, spousal abuse is wrong. If your going to rationalize that, you may as well do the same for child abuse.

Also, why are people so shocked? He was pulling in a billion dollars a year, traveling all over the planet, and women came out of the woodwork to fuck him. Hell with that much money, I wouldn't be surprised if he and a bunch of fellow billionaires were hunting homeless people for sports in the streets of Detroit...wait a minute.. wasn't that a Wesley Snipes movie?

The guy was paid to play golf. If people believed him to be some perfect person...they are an idiot and it's not Tiger's fault that he can't live up to the standards of their fantasy world. (To be fair and completely honest, if it had been my sister he cheated on and my nieces...I would have buried a golf club into the base of his skull, but since it's not, its really none of my business).

And besides...golf is fucking stupid...how the hell do people watch that crap?

Posted by: Diablo at December 13, 2009 12:53 PM

Oh and fucking morons that can't seem to figure out how to post anything on a website without double clicking it somehow. Yeah, I want to read your rambling gibberish so much that the second go around is that much more fantastic. Seriously, did you just come from a fucking cave?

Posted by: Diablo at December 13, 2009 12:55 PM

Tammy, your nice guy syndrome rant was absolutely perfect. Similarly, I cannot stand people who are fake or pretend to be a certain way to fulfill an agenda and I consider those guys to fall under both of those categories.

Also, I will admit I'm a grammar bitch. YOUR and YOU'RE mean two entirely different things. One is possessive, one is a contraction for you are. Is it really that difficult?! That gets me going. Every. Single. Time.

Posted by: Even Stevens at December 13, 2009 1:06 PM

Guess who -- well, that's a relief! I thought the worst, since it came right on the heels of my talking about my guy and veggies.

And I understand about not liking carrots. Some people are more zucchini types than carrot types, what with the added girth and smoothness. Of course, I must be some sort of freak vegetarian, because unlike the PETA commercials would suggest, I don't actually want to stick vegetables any where near my lady bits, so I can't speak from personal experience.

Posted by: linny at December 13, 2009 1:10 PM

Robert, I don't leave when gay slurs are used, but I do give people my most effective death glare for the remainder of whatever conversation is going on. In my head, though, I leave and go spend some quality time with Nathan Fillion. It really bugs me too.

And Diablo, stupid questions are the WORST! One of my roommates can't seem to use her common sense properly, so situations like this often arise:
Her: What are you up to tomorrow?
Me: I've got a paper, due, so I'm not making plans except writing.
Her: So you're not going out, right?
Me: No...I'm writing a paper.
Her: OK, because I don't want to miss out on what you're doing. So let me know when you make plans for the evening, OK?
Me: I'M NOT MAKING PLANS FOR THE EVENING!
Her: I'll be working all day, so can you let me know if you're going out?
Me: I'LL BE WRITING A FUCKING PAPER ALL DAY! I'M NOT GOING OUT!
Her: OK! Jeez, I was just asking *storms off tearily*

WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE? Sometimes things are obvious, like when you say "We're having a movie night tomorrow if you want to join" and the person says, "OK, but I'm not free in the morning, so can we do it sometime after lunch?" USE YOUR FUCKING BRAIN!

Finally, I wish people would stop confusing "less" with "fewer." Things you can count=fewer. Things you can't=less. For instance: "Less sand." "Fewer grains of sand."

In other news, this is my favorite thread ever.

Posted by: esme at December 13, 2009 1:19 PM

Claire, that leaving between presentations during a time slot drives me insane. I feel guilty when I have to leave between a tightly timed series of presentations at a symposium. I could never imagine, shy of an emergency (ie: I've magically caught on fire, someone pulled a knife/gun out on me, grizzly bear has wandered into the room, etc.) leaving between speeches at a presentation I attended. Yet I see it happen all the time. Irritating is too gentle a word to describe my reaction to that. I've apologized for leaving between time slots to whoever was running something in the past. If not in person, then through an e-mail. I turn my cellphone off and shut out the outside world while I take notes on anything I might want to research myself.

Worse are the jerkoffs who fall asleep. It's not my fault you couldn't care less about someone's topic, show a little respect. I doubt you would react as kindly if someone in the front row fell asleep while you were presenting. You honestly can't tell me staying awake for 90 minutes is that big a challenge. You're not watching When a Stranger Calls; you have no excuse.

Posted by: Robert at December 13, 2009 1:28 PM

linny, that made me chortle. Also, points for giving me an excuse to use the word "chortle."

Of course, now the zucchini in my crisper is giving me an uneasy feeling. Mainly because "Zucchini in my crisper" now sounds like an unsavory euphemism...

Posted by: Tammy at December 13, 2009 1:29 PM

My counterargument to it this is, “I don’t care if Grandma blows her SS check at Atlantic City, but she better damn sure not ask me to pay for her fucking presecription meds.”

That's a common argument against universal health care. People who argue against universal health care are my biggest pet peeve. So, there you go.

Posted by: ChristianH at December 13, 2009 1:44 PM

Affirmative action and Prop 8 & co can send me into a fury.

When people go "That's ignorant" in response to everything they don't agree with.
THAT'S NOT WHAT IGNORANT MEANS! I think South Park effectively covered this though

Although not as major and anger-inducing, double exclamation marks frustrate me (ex: Wow!!) Just use one or go overboard with 3+. Two just looks ridiculous, like a typo, or they had a stroke in the middle of expressing their excitement.

Posted by: gee. ay. at December 13, 2009 1:49 PM

One thing that really gets me down is when people put bandanas on their dogs.

Posted by: Agente Provocatrice at December 13, 2009 2:05 PM

Sicky McSickerson that I am, I missed the diversion yesterday. So hold on while I hack into a tissue and think of something.

Current and most annoying thing? My job. Granted, it's a temp job, but they are so inefficient and ass-backwards (the company as a whole) it's no wonder shit ain't going right. People on shifts falling asleep or watching YouTube instead of working? Awesome. Little no-nothing incompetents put in charge of "proofing" but actually fucking it up more, thereby putting me in a proofing loop of hell? The fact that I'm doing the work of the position ABOVE me and getting paid jack shit?

And yet, I still want a permanent position with this company. They have such potential.

And the other thing that bothers me is when people tell me that if I have kids, they'll be gay. Um ... my parents are straight and I came out a little less than straight, so I don't understand that argument. In fact, the parents of MOST gay people are straight. And then I'm told that if I have children I'll teach them to be tolerant of "that sort of thing." Guess what, I would have taught them that anyway! It's amazing how even if I had decided to marry and have children with a man, I still would have found a way to be a decent person who taught my kids good lessons. Shocking, I know.

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at December 13, 2009 2:42 PM

Oh, and speaking of my job, grammar, and proofreading . . .

I understand that it's not always easy to figure out which words are hyphenated, especially when the rules aren't consistent between publications and a word occurs over a line break. I get that. But you know what? Look it up. And then there are the words that of COURSE don't have a hyphen, but some stupid proofer on a shift that isn't mine decides to let it stay.
And I would like to point out, yet again, that I read an error report where someone misspelled "hyphen" as "haifin." I maintain that if you can't spell, you shouldn't be proofreading ANYTHING EVER.

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at December 13, 2009 2:55 PM

Add me to the growing list of women who are now in love with Tammy.

As for my 'flaming arsehole' subject...
Smokers who keep at it despite being diagnosed with a condition caused by smoking. It's partly why I gave up clinical research. I kept getting the urge to punch some fag-breathed fucwit in the face to stop them bitching about their doctor 'not doing enough', and that just wasn't good for my state of mind. Or my chances of staying out of jail.

I'm such a flaming arsehole on this topic that I believe that if you have a heart attack, cancer, stroke, develop COPD, or whatever, and you're still smoking a year later, you should no longer covered for that condition. No insurance, not even health care. You want to kill yourself, go right ahead. If you don't like that idea, you can shell out $80,000 a year to stay alive instead of sponging off the people who aren't fundamentally stupid.

Posted by: ScienceGeek at December 13, 2009 3:32 PM

Litter.Makes.me.batshit.fucking.insane!If I see you or some other dickwad throw garbage on the street I will pick up your garbage and follow you with it and tell you that you are an asshole and the trashcan is right fucking there (and if there isn't a trash can, I will tell you to carry your fucking garbage until you find one.If you toss shit out of your car window, I will chase your ass down and ram you.
Really people, there is just no excuse for this shit, it's lazy, it's dirtying your own nest, it is evidence of why this species may not make it to the 10 million year mark.

Posted by: brite at December 13, 2009 3:48 PM

You know what I hate? People who eat meat but can't own up to the fact that they are eating an animal.

I'm a dedicated carnivore myself, but it drives me CRAZY when people can't eat meat off of the bone because then "its too much like an animal". If you have to pretend that your steak came off of the steak-tree, just go be a damned vegetarian, will you? Because you are giving carnivores a bad name.

Posted by: Moi at December 13, 2009 4:28 PM

I am a waitress for an extremely busy chain restaurant in one of the biggest vacation destination in the US

It would be shorter to list things that do not annoy the piss out of me

Posted by: Kylie at December 13, 2009 4:48 PM

Wow, what bunch of haters.

*fistpumps*

OH YEAH! OH YEAH!!! IN DA CLUB!!!


/FISTPUMPIN'


Posted by: GuidoSlim aka "The Situation" aka The Condition at December 13, 2009 4:50 PM

These days *everything* pisses me off.

Posted by: Sofía at December 13, 2009 7:18 PM

I work on a cardiac unit where the majority of my patients are obese, middle-aged smokers who are content to be cut open, stitched closed, and sent home without any intention to end the habits that led them to me. They complain of the low fat/low salt diets, cardiac rehab, and our smoke-free policy. They refuse teaching materials and pay no attention to any education or their discharge instructions. Poor guys can’t wait to get back to their grease, smoke, and recliners.

Sorry, but I’m not going to take your complaint of “constant crushing chest pain” seriously when you keep leaving the floor every couple of hours to smoke, pushing your IV pole with one hand and carrying your chest tubes in another. I am documenting every time you go and every time I educate you about the dangers of your actions. You want to leave? Meet me at the desk. I’ll have your AMA papers ready. I’m not going to fight for you when you won’t lift a damn finger to help yourself.

Occasionally I’ll have the patient for whom this visit was a wake-up call, and this person will receive all the help he or she needs to prevent any future visits and live a longer life. The rest can go to hell.

Posted by: Diana at December 13, 2009 9:13 PM

Just got around to commenting on this.

Mine: People who don't know how to fucking drive on a highway. For Christ's sake: LEFT LANE FAST, RIGHT LANE SLOW. You do not take five minutes to pass someone on a two lane highway going 2 miles over the speed limit. And for the love of god MOVE OVER ONCE YOU PASS SOMEONE.

God, I hate people sometimes

Posted by: Pandemic at December 13, 2009 9:32 PM

Diana, let us bask in our shared hatred!

My favourite patient (sarcastic) was the woman who, when I told her I was a researcher, spent ten minutes telling me how science was a lie and I should have to work on Sunday and Christmas day because 'people shouldn't benefit from something they don't believe in'. Ten minutes after that, we're going over her background (including the seven different drugs she was on, because, obviously, it's only wrong when somebody else is benefiting from something they don't believe in), she's trying to tell me the two triple-bypass operations she's had were because of a 'genetic thing', and not her pack-a-day smoking habit and being morbidly obese.

My (honestly) favourite patient was the guy who came in for a study and asked if we wouldn't mind giving him a cholesterol test, something we did anyway as part of the research. He told us he was trying to get it low enough that he wouldn't need to take one of his drugs and, with justified pride, said he'd been so sick 18 months before that they'd told him he'd need a heart transplant, and it had scared him into taking care of himself.
In the end, his results were so close to those of our healthy controls, they screwed up our overall results.

Posted by: ScienceGeek at December 13, 2009 9:42 PM

One thing that really frosts me is when people use "Hi, how are you?" (or "how's it goin'", or "what's up") when a simple hello would suffice and they don't care how you actually are and have no intention of listening to see if you respond.
I get this a lot in my work place (retail store) and the only thing I hate more is when I catch myself doing the same thing, GAH.

Posted by: havalina at December 13, 2009 9:53 PM

Posted by: havalina at December 13, 2009 9:53 PM

I know exactly what you mean. And then you eventually give up on replying "good thanks, you?" and just answer "Hi" because they're just going to talk over you anyway. As soon as you start doing that you inevitably get the snarky bastard who says something like "you're hi?" It's a total lose-lose situation that used to annoy the shit out of me.

Posted by: Chugga at December 13, 2009 10:15 PM

Posted by: Kelly at December 13, 2009 2:05 AM

Christ on a cracker, thanks for making me cry like a little girl. But it does lead into one of my peeves that hasn't been beaten to death here just yet:

Irresponsible pet owners. Case in point, my former roomate. We moved in together and she promptly went and spent about $300 on a cocker spaniel she just 'had' to have. Next thing you know, she can't afford food for it, nor her share of rent/bills, so she moves out after maybe a month. She then tosses the dog around to different friends/relatives to look after because she can't take it with her to her apartment. (And all the while? Her 2 cats are still with me, because I don't have the heart to throw them out.) She finally moves to a pet-friendly apartment with her new boyfriend, and so obviously they... go adopt ANOTHER dog. While the Cocker is still being looked after elsewhere. And then they move yet again, and now NEITHER dog can come with them, one of the 2 cats went missing after she finally got them back and she's not concerned (''that cat was a brat anyway") and I JUST WANT TO KICK THEM IN THE FACE FOR BEING SUCH SELFISH, UNCARING ASSHOLES.

Yeah, my life would've been easier if I could've moved into an apartment earlier in the year rather than going broke staying in that house alone AND caring for my own 3 dogs and 3 cats, but when I adopted them, I made a promise to every single one of them that I'd take care of them to the best of my ability until the day they die. That does NOT include tossing them out when they inconvenience me.

Posted by: Gabs at December 13, 2009 10:27 PM

People who tell me I'll change my mind about having children. My husband and I made the decision to not have kids long before we got married. No I am not "depriving him of the joy" of having a child. Mutual. Decision.

The worst are women who have told me either A. It was an accident or B. They were worried because they ran out of things to talk about with their significant other. Yeah, great reasoning for procreating. Have fun living vicariously through your offspring!

Posted by: Wooster at December 13, 2009 10:28 PM

Gabs, I propose all pet adoption contracts henceforth include a clause in small print authorizing anal electrocution for those who reneg on the adoption contract.

Posted by: Johnnyboy at December 13, 2009 10:39 PM

OH MY GOD YES Moi.

People who eat meat (and almost universally disparage vegetarians for their choices) but reveal themselves to be absolutely, utterly hypocritical when they recoil at the thought of eating, say, dog rather than cow, or say they could never actually kill anything, or refuse to touch raw meat. WTF?! That shrink-wrapped chicken you buy was once covered in blood and feathers, and before that, lived in a tiny cage in a factory feedlot. If you ignore this, you're an idiot.

Posted by: flyelight at December 13, 2009 10:58 PM

Fucking 'I'm a Knob with a Number of Names (Vermillion)'; the guy is a dick.

This thread sets it out perfectly.

Have a whinge about a few legitimate gripes, even attack someone else's comment for the sake of it, but don't think you're doing anyone any favours.

The guy dissects another commenter's responses and instead of providing anything reasonable at all, he takes the 'that's a generalisation' route. Of course it is, numbnut, we're not flinging dissertations at each other, merely paragraphs. What the fuck do you expect anyone to produce?

Further, your analysis was - by and large - lame generalisation.

Jesus, dude. Pull your head out of your arse for the four seconds it would take for you to look around and realise that you're a grumpy, know-it-all, peanut who just isn't that bright. Be nicer, and less condescending. Please.

I thought it significant that the only commenter you didn't respond to was 'Guess Who!', who nailed you with close to his most cogent posts to date on Pajiba.

Thanks ',' - I feel much better.

Posted by: Peter G at December 13, 2009 11:26 PM

The Internet. Really.

That whole "long tail", "new, new thing", thing & don't even get me started on "social media" Most people suck. Even the best people suck some of the time. Now they have a megaphone.

- Sup?
- Nothin. U?
- Nothin.
- OMG, I just saw Miley on MTV.
- Let's put it on U-Tube.
- LOL!

Can I please be left the hell alone?

Crowdsourcing, because now you can? Dummies, every idea we depend upon now was at one time mocked and abused by the wad, and ever "common knowledge" of the past has been overtaken by the events. Crowdsourcing tells you what the mass thinks, but what the hell do they know about, well, much of anything.

Common knowledge & conventional wisdom are neither.

The 90% of everything that's crap is now available to everyone, aggressively pushed into our maws. I mean, really. Facebook? Twitter? The only two useful things about twitter:

1) Near real time communication for the masses during when there's a cork-up, like during the Iranian non-lection & aftermath.

2) Valleywag's daily most inane / crazy twitter stuff article, but god help the poor sot who has to comb through all that.

Seriously, some half-educated trendista with messenger bag & ultra-thin Mac starts spouting off about how the communication revop-fucking-lution has changed humanity, blah, blah, blah. Dude, humanity hasn't changed, we're just matrixed in to each others babblings.

The most powerful communication mechanism since television and we're doing no better, demonstrably worse.

Seriously. For the oceans of "content" being produced, you can still keep up with the dozen thoughts a year that actually matter without putting the slightest dent in your drinking.

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at December 13, 2009 11:30 PM

Vermillion and Guess Whookie need to get a fucking room already. Give in to the Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name, boys. You know you want to.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at December 14, 2009 12:12 AM

Diana and Science Geek, my grandma is totally one of those people. When I was 14 she had a lung collapse due to her emphysema and a pack a day habit. My mom and I had to travel south to see her (I'm from NY). When we get there and she's well enough to have visitors, she spent most of her time trying to bum cigarettes off people. Fast forward to when she gets out of the hospital and we're at her house with her and she fell right back into her smoking habits. I used to have pretty bad asthma and cigarette smoke was the biggest trigger of an attack for me, so of course I had one while visiting her. My mom came out and told her she needed to stop smoking while we were there so I didn't get anymore attacks... her response was that it must be something in the Southern air, it's thicker than in the north. Seriously. I was apalled. It's sad what people will do to justify their unhealthy lifestyles.

Posted by: Even Stevens at December 14, 2009 12:16 AM

Johnnyboy, best idea I've heard all day!

Posted by: Gabs at December 14, 2009 12:21 AM

Parents of kids today. They effing suck. They're so worried about Johnny having low self-esteem that they have made school sports an all-inclusive thing, with no tryouts. They don't want Susie to get teased, so she gets a nose job at age 15. And don't get me started on all the ADD, ADHD, Autism, Hyperactivity, Bipolar, (insert name here) Disorder, etc. While these things do exist, it makes me nuts when kids are over-diagnosed (or diagnosed and medicated by a family doctor without seeing a specialist) and parents cling to these as excuses for why their children are not functioning normally. Parents blame schools for their kids being assholes. They're assholes because you're asshole parents.
I read an article today about a school who suspended a student for cyber-bullying. Apparently some little asshole posted a video on YouTube calling another student a slut, making up rumors, etc. The victim went to the principal for help and the asshole was suspended for a few days.
While I'm not arguing that the school may have overstepped its juristiction a bit(which is arguable considering that this was being talked about in school, causing distress and disruption), my beef is with the asshole's parents. Instead of disiplining their child, they took the school to court for suspending their perfect child. Instead of taking the time to explain that being a little asshole has its consequences, they sued the school and won, teaching the little asshole a lesson that if you do wrong and somebody calls you on it, you can just take them to court and get your way.
I'd be too busy with my foot up my kid's ass to be paying for a lawyer to sue the school for providing the parenting I was too lazy to provide myself.
Assholes.

Posted by: Whorish Mouth at December 14, 2009 8:48 AM

This sounds heartless and I don't care: children or adults that have gone through terrible trauma and receive book deals, jumping over people who've actually worked and studied and have writing talent. Oprah Winfrey had a kid on her show years ago named Mattie Stepanek who had cerebral palsy or some terrible disease, and he wrote poetry about his illness. It got him five books (the only one I flipped through was called Heartsongs and it sucked). The wife of the guy on the doomed 9-11 flight that said "let's roll" got a book on the NY Times bestseller list. Look, I'm sorry rape or molestation or death or illness have happened to you, but that doesn't mean you can write! Hell, I'll even give you an editorial in a newspaper like USA Today giving a rundown of your trama, but STOP WRITING BOOKS! And to the public, stop buying these pieces of shit! I have friends who have portfolios from Harvard and Oxford University and struggle to get published. If my kid is born with half a head, will you read my writing now?! Jesus!

Posted by: scorzi at December 14, 2009 8:53 AM

Really late to the game, but here's mine: Capital Punishment. I haven't read all the comments to see if anyone else commented on this, but here is my rant:

If you are convicted of a violent crime...and I mean CONVICTED, with really good evidence (DNA, what have you) showing that you are irrefutably guilty, why the HELL are my taxpayer dollars paying for your medical care, college education, 3 hots and a cot, cable TV and the occasional butt-loving? I am generally a very liberal person, but when it comes to capital punishment, I think Judge Roy Bean had it right....hear 'em, and hang 'em. And I do mean hang 'em. Bring back public execution. Lethal injection is for pussies. Literally, for pussies. Your cat gets the heebie-jeebies and you take it to the vet...what does he do? Give it a shot to put it to sleep. Bubba Dipshit rapes and kills (or in reverse order) some 10 year old, and he gets to live on the National tit for 25 years while appeal after appeal clog up the court system, then, IF he finally gets to walk the Green Mile, he lays down on a cot and is put to sleep JUST LIKE FLUFFY!! What the hell did Fluffy do? Maybe hack up a few hairballs, shred the sofa, or knock over Grandma Rose's vase, but did Fluffy deserve the same punishment as Bubba? Hell no!

Public hangings. That's what I'm saying. If not that, take a tip from that book so many like to thump...an eye for an eye. You rip somebody's guts open and watch them bleed out, one of their family members gets to do it to you. And make sure it is publicized, televised, whatever. You want a deterrent? Watching some mofo "hang from the neck until he is dead" just might make some of these a**holes think twice about committing a violent crime.

People have asked me, "But, could you throw the switch or pull the trigger on someone?" Bet your ass. If they did what they were convicted of, I could watch 'em swing and sleep like a baby. They are sucking up oxygen good people could be using.

My friend loves it when I get on this rant. She says its my Republican side coming out. I don't know about that, but.....well, anyway, thats my biggie.

Posted by: dammitjanet at December 14, 2009 10:03 AM

This strikes as a kind of depressing diversion, in that I will read everyone's comments and remember additional stuff that gets me pissed off, and I've already got a headache today, and a doctor appointment to look forward to, and the only pet peeve I can think of right now is--people who don't toss their old food from the staff fridge, so when I put my lunch in this morning, I was assaulted by the smell of rotting eggs and/or fish. Toss your nasty shit out, jerkwads.

Also--bad drivers, especially people who tailgate, especially those who tailgate when the traffic is bumper to bumper and there's nothing you can do about it, but the guy is hanging off your ass while you're doing 60, like being two feet closer will get him to work that much sooner, and then he gets annoyed when you stomp on the brakes to encourage him to back off, and then when traffic clears and you kindly get over to allow him to continue on his assholey way, he squeezes in front of you so he can slam on his brakes and teach you a lesson, although it makes no sense since I wasn't tailgating him, just minding my own business in the right lane. Die, you fucker.

Seriously, driving like an asshole gets you nowhere, folks. I've been commuting for years, I average about 500 miles per week on my poor car, and I've driven like an asshole too, and you won't get where you're going even two minutes faster. Plus you're risking other people's lives, and nothing is worth that. The highway is not your personal property; you're sharing it with others, so try to have some goddamn consideration.

See, now I'm all pissed, and I haven't even read everyone's comments yet. Also infuriating--the fact that I see state cops pulling over and searching at least one vehicle a week over the past three years on 94 near Chelsea, MI, and the driver is always, ALWAYS black. Who the hell do I complain to about that? Somehow I don't think calling the cops and accusing them of being racist assholes is going to go over too well.

Also, self-righteous Christians who think their religion is the only one that deserves respect in this country.

Posted by: DeadBessie at December 14, 2009 10:04 AM

Posted by: dammitjanet at December 14, 2009 10:03 AM

Normally I would agree dammitjanet, but studies have actually shown that due to the (quite necessary in my opinion) system of appeals in place, its actually much more costly to execute someone than imprison them for life.

Posted by: Pandemic at December 14, 2009 11:24 AM

Not to mention the insurance premiums to guard against wrongful death lawsuits brought by the families of people wrongly convicted and executed....

Posted by: sansho1 at December 14, 2009 11:47 AM

I understand there is a chance of an innocent person being convicted. That's why I stated compelling evidence would be needed. As for the appeals, etc. and it costing more to execute someone than not....I don't get that.

Ok, if we're gonna house 'em, lets put 'em to work. Lets ship them to Afghanistan, or whatever other hell-hole we may be engaged in at any given time. Or, better yet, just make 'em watch reality TV ALL THE TIME. That's plenty punishing.

Posted by: dammitjanet at December 14, 2009 11:56 AM

Tammy -- Nice Guy Syndrome disgusts me, so Amen, Hallelujah, and Preach It, Sister.

My number one pet peeve goes along with all the other retail-ites and waiters/waitresses who posted--The amount of rudeness I experience in a single day is breathtaking. People don't say "Hi" before they say, "I have a return," and dump their shit on the counter. I've been called a bitch and a whore for following my store's return policy. People don't even turn around when I say, "Hi, welcome to (mystore)!" and God forbid they have to wait more than four seconds for me to complete their transaction--regardless of all the special needs they have regarding said transaction--because they'll start sighing, huffing, rolling their neck, etc. And don't tell me you're in a hurry. I sell tee shirts and jeans. You did not HAVE a retail emergency. If you were in a hurry, if you had ten minutes before you needed to pick up your kids from school, you should not have come into my store ten days before Christmas...

Rawr.

As someone said waaaaaaaaay up the page, it would take me less time to list the things that DON'T bother me than the ones that do. (Convoluted sentence, much?) I've been in retail for about ten years and am a manager at a massive retail store in one of the wealthiest, snottiest counties in the DC area. I kind of hate people.

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