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It's a Fool That Looks for Logic in the Chambers of the Human Heart


Burn After Reading / Daniel Carlson

The Coen brothers have carved out a career that’s all over the map in regards to tone, content, and the general seriousness of their stories. Writing, producing, directing, and even editing as a team, they’ve been responsible for the Texas noir of Blood Simple and the sublime silliness of Raising Arizona; they’re responsible for No Country for Old Men, one of the greatest dramas of the past decade, and The Big Lebowski, arguably the greatest cult film of all time. If there’s a through-line that could be used to pin down their films, it’s a sense of almost phenomenal confidence in their voice and what they’re trying to do within a given story. That confidence comes through loud and clear in Burn After Reading, a gleefully absurd, consistently funny, and thoroughly entertaining film that touches on the Coens’ trademark wit, rhythm, and inevitable bursts of violence. Whether it will hold up and come to find a place in the brothers’ pantheon of greatness is something only time will tell, but it’s a strong and often hilarious dark comedy that lives up to the Coen name.

The story — I’m doing my best not to use horribly overwrought descriptors like “madcap,” but still, you get the idea — begins when Osborne Cox (John Malkovich) is laid off from his job as a CIA analyst, sending an already negative guy into a depressed funk. Even his firing has a weird but definite humor to it: When his superiors say he has a drink problem, Osborne wheels on an associate and says, “You’re a Mormon; next to you, we all have a drinking problem!” Osborne is married to Katie (Tilda Swinton), a cold, domineering woman who’s sleeping with Harry Pfarrer (George Clooney), a loudmouth former Treasury Department guy who’s with the U.S. Marshals and wears his gun everywhere. The script spends a fair amount of time just setting up these characters and their various physical and professional relationships, and while the film is ostensibly a comedy, it’s a Coen brothers one, which means the jokes are necessarily going to tie in to some pretty deep-seated psychological traumas. In this case, most of the characters are blandly monstrous to each other, sleeping with whoever shows up, engaging in a series of increasingly meaningless relationships whose duplicities mirror the quasi-espionage that’s about to come down and send the whole plot spinning in another direction. But the Coens never hit this note too hard: They just let it play.

In a pre-emptive move while preparing to file divorce papers, Katie transfers Osborne’s financial records and unintentionally some fragments of his memoirs to a CD that’s misplaced by her lawyer’s assistant and winds up at a gym in the hands of employees Linda Litzke (Frances McDormand), an eager, sad woman who’s saving money for a series of cosmetic surgeries to “reinvent herself,” and Chad Feldheimer (Brad Pitt), a blissfully dumb trainer who wants nothing more out of life than a good smoothie. Chad, examining the back accounts and personal notes on the CD, concludes that it’s “high-level intelligence shit,” at which point he and Linda begin to form some really terrible plans about how to find the disc’s owner and blackmail him. Linda’s also throwing herself upon the mercy of online dating, enlisting Chad’s help to find a decent-looking guy. After a few bad dates and unfortunate hookups that all seem to generate from the same bench-lined walking path in the park, Linda meets Harry, with whom she (thinks she) has an instant bond over everything from movies to personal outlook.

Once Linda and Harry get involved, the Coens really have to force the plots to interweave, just let things keep on rolling. Chad and Linda figure out that their CD used to belong to Osborne, leading to some brilliant exchanges between Osborne, who’s pissed off that someone’s stealing his work, and Chad, who narrows his eyes and tries to talk tough while making veiled threats to Osborne about “the security of your shit.” It’s inane and unrealistic in the best way, and the Coens get a lot of mileage out of a decent script in the hands of a talented cast.

It’s Malkovich’s Osborne that gets the ball rolling, but as the story evolves, he becomes less a central character and more one piece of an increasingly bizarre but enjoyable puzzle. Clooney can practically do this kind of thing in his sleep now, having played equally dimwitted anti-heroes in the Coens’ O Brother, Where Art Thou? and Intolerable Cruelty. But as the final leg in what Clooney’s described as the Coens’ informal “idiot trilogy,” his Harry is appropriately stupid and self-involved, too focused on his own basic desires to dog women and get a jog in before dinner to realize that his own life might be falling apart. The rest of the cast is, as expected, pitch-perfect in their roles. McDormand — who’s married to Joel Coen in the real world — is fantastic and wounded and unable to hold onto her life as it begins to unravel, and she brings a wonderful air of likeability and grace to the role, not to mention a sense of physical comedy and the ability to communicate a host of imagined punch lines with a shift of her eyebrows or the way she bites her lip. And Pitt is just amazing and goofy and confused and so damn earnest that he coasts on sheer goodwill. Chad is the only main character who’s never even remotely developed psychologically, and it’s not because the Coens are lazy; it’s because he doesn’t need to be. He’s a force of pure grinning happiness and idiocy, a nice guy who exists simply to support his friends.

Despite the film’s setting in and around Washington, D.C., and the fact that it (a) revolves around the perceived theft of national security documents and (b) occasionally explodes into moments of shocking violence, it’s impossible to view Burn After Reading as anything other than another film in which the Coens create a small world of idiosyncratic characters and then watch them run into each other. The script is packed with smart jokes, dumb people, and moments in which the writer-directors do nothing but bask in the cognitive dissonance of, say, a CIA agent attacking a guy with a hatchet. Monitoring the escalating situation from their headquarters in Langley, one of the agency’s superiors tells his colleague, “Report back to me when … I don’t know … when it makes sense.” But for the Coens, it already does.

Daniel Carlson is the managing editor of Pajiba and a low-level employee at a Hollywood industry magazine. You can visit his blog, Slowly Going Bald.


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Comments

Nice O Brother quote! Now to read the review.

Posted by: coveredinbees at September 12, 2008 7:09 PM

Even with all those nice words it sounds awful. I was waiting for a "jk" at the end, which I admittedly did not make it to.

Posted by: Evan at September 12, 2008 7:17 PM

Good to see Clooney taking a well deserved break from his stressful duties at the U.N.

Posted by: Pookie at September 12, 2008 7:19 PM

I've seen extended clips of this on "Reel Channel" and I was soooooo hoping it turned out well. Barbado is pleased.

Just think of it, Swinton and Malkovich doing Coen bros comedy folks, it doesn't get any better.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 12, 2008 7:21 PM

It's a very interesting movie in that it rambles.....it wanders......it even putters a little...this movie is in noooo hurry.....and then it kills. That's not a criticism of the pacing at all. I had a little worry about where this was all going, if much of anywhere, for a little while, until it's "aaaahhh, this is where we were going" at which point several of us were laughing our heads off (well there's not a lot of people in a theater on a friday afternoon, so the relative percentage was enjoying the hell out of it).

I had an affinity for Tilda already, but gawd was I crushing on Frances. The woman looks damn good in a fitted polo, okay? And I like upper arms anyway.

Bonus points for getting Gil Janklowicz in there, though I may have been the only one cackling in remembrance of attempting his silly looking but brutal workouts.

Posted by: Jay at September 12, 2008 7:28 PM

"I thought you might be worried... about the security... of your shit."

I nearly fell off my chair when I saw that scene in the trailer.

And let's just say YAY for Frances McDormand being in a decent film and kicking ass. She's one of the most underused actresses of our time and she's INSANELY talented.

Posted by: SofĂ­a at September 12, 2008 7:29 PM

Oh thank God, I was terribly worried that this would suck but I would see it anyways because I love the Coen brothers. Now I can actually look forward to a movie night.

Posted by: the_wakeful at September 12, 2008 7:36 PM

I could probably be happy watching this with the sound off.

The Coens. Clooney. Mcdormand. Malkovich. And Ms. Swinton? She is delightfully weird. I never know what to think.

I think Brad Pitt is also in this.

Posted by: greer at September 12, 2008 7:39 PM

Here's the truth folks:
Clooney and Pitt cannot act!
That means pretending to be another character from their pretentious selves.
If you think their smug attempt at reciting lines is acting, immediately turn on TMC and watch for 48 hours, then you'll be introduced to acting.
And for the Coen brothers fanatics, having mental orgasms for this slop of a film, get a life!
Hollywood hasn't had an original idea in 20 plus years.
That's the truth, jerk offs.

Posted by: Chuck at September 12, 2008 8:12 PM

There's something special about The Movie Channel? They're not much of a player anymore.

Posted by: Jay at September 12, 2008 8:39 PM

The GOD DAMNED Movie Channel!?!?!?

When exactly would we catch a glimpse of good acting before, or after, the 55th repeat of Demolition Man?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 12, 2008 8:42 PM

Chuck has anger issues.

Posted by: alex at September 12, 2008 8:44 PM

Almost positive he meant TCM, or he's high.

Posted by: Brent at September 12, 2008 8:47 PM

Nah, nah.. Turner Classic Movies and THE MOVIE CHANNEL are completely different, there's a COMPLETELY different word there. No reasonable person makes that mistake.

No fucking way.

He's probably doing black tar heroin, only explanation.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 12, 2008 8:50 PM

"That's the truth, jerk offs."

Are you calling me a jerk-off, Chuck? That's a pretty sweeping generalization there, my friend. I could understand where you were coming from if somebody went all ballistic on you for no reason, or said something along the lines of "anyone who doesn't like the brothers Coen is an ignorant twat,", but come on holmes, it t'weren't like that. Nor am I a jerk-off...

"And for the Coen brothers fanatics, having mental orgasms for this slop of a film, get a life!"

Hmm... Seems like the same could be said for somebody who trolls around with no intent other that being a dick.

Now you can call me a jerk-off...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at September 12, 2008 9:15 PM

Chuck needs his friend and mentor whose name he has shamed: Chuck Norris.

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Posted by: 2 at September 12, 2008 9:33 PM

I'm sorry, my knuckles are over developed from masturbating too much,
it is TCM,
I also went blind as well!

Posted by: Chuck at September 12, 2008 9:44 PM

And stop being hypersensitive to comments left...
I'm criticizing the hack jobs in Hollywood,
not the bitchy people leaving comments...
face it, Hollywood sucks ass, The Coen brothers suck ass, and stop trying to kiss Seth Rogen's nether regions, his scthick got cold along time ago, as well as Adam Sandler, Will Farrell, and the host of other SNL washouts they keep putting on pedestals, Adam Sandberg beware
Pajiba:scathing reviews for bitchy people, right?

Posted by: Chuck at September 12, 2008 9:49 PM

True enough. My bad. I owe you a Pepsi.

I happen to like the Coen clan though - granted, they've made a few turds, but all in all the track record is pretty tight. Additionally, I'm pretty sure nobody around these parts is kissing Rogen's taint. He's decent, but there's too much, too goddam soon. Take a break motherfucker, and let people miss what's good about you prior to becoming bored of your schtick...

Commence bitching...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at September 12, 2008 9:59 PM

From the previews, I was SO VERY MUCH HOPING that I could find a reason to actually like Brad Pitt and George Clooney in the same movie. Actually, I usually enjoy anything Clooney does, but the Pitt-man has never totally impressed me, in most everything he's done aside from 'Seven' or '12 Monkeys', and seeing him in these particular trailers has really pumped up my desire to finally acknowledge his true versatility.

Thank you, Daniel, your first paragraph helped to ease my worried mind,and I now look forward to yet another Coen Bros masterpiece and a Brad Pitt I never thought I'd see (knocking on wood).

Posted by: TMax at September 12, 2008 10:05 PM

The televesion previews, had Pitt getting punched, or dancing around in headphones. This aroused a desire to finally acknowledge his true versatility?

From Louis in Interview with a Vampire to Achilles in Troy, it's the same shit, over and over. Vapid expression, monotone dialogue, yada, yada, yada

Posted by: Chuck at September 12, 2008 10:09 PM

Sorry folks,
I've been checking in on this site for a long time, and it's turned into a softer, gentler version of its' acrid former self.
Grow a sack people, and start ripping apart the shit you shell out $10 to see on the big screen.
Stop being a bunch of pansy asses, and start being scathing!!

Posted by: Chuck at September 12, 2008 10:12 PM

T-max,

You actually wrote the Pitt-man?
Are you that pathetic, or do you actually yearn to be a man when you grow up?

Let's describe Pitt as the fop he really is...
a silly emasculated Hollywood eunoch in a general sense.

Posted by: Chuck at September 12, 2008 10:16 PM

Now I'm confused.

For all that talent in the room, I gotta say, I was pretty disappointed. But if Chuck the emasculated asshat is the only other person who didn't like it, I must be wrong, right?

Posted by: Marra at September 12, 2008 10:32 PM

Thanks Dan. Now I'm excited to see this tomorrow.

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at September 12, 2008 10:33 PM

if Chuck the emasculated asshat is the only other person who didn't like it, I must be wrong, right?

Hardly. Your mistake is in thinking that he'd actually seen it, which I didn't gather from his comments. You empirically voiced your own opinion. I think that's "what the site's supposed to be about" etc. etc.

Posted by: Jay at September 12, 2008 10:41 PM

Chuck, I don't know where you came from but you seem to be making up for lost time with a vengeance. Got a lot to say, don't you, son? We get it, you don't like Clooney or Pitt, but did you see this movie? Have you got anything constructive/insightful to say about it? Or are you just grouching off to compensate for a perceived lack of scathing and bitchy? Not that it matters to me, I find Clooney to be ok and Pitt somewhat overrated with a few really solid roles, but you seem to have a bug in your ass about something and I just can't match your passion.

Posted by: lordhelmet at September 12, 2008 11:06 PM

Perhaps Chuck is an old fogey from the southy areas? The bf and I were surrounded by the bluehairs this afternoon who hated on the movie for various reasons: the language, it's "a stupid show", and general head-shaking confusion. It was like an old folks convention complete with that weird "people cheese" smell of unwashed crevices and disappointment with today's youth. Not being an old-timer myself, I of course enjoyed it and the liberal use of the f-bomb.

Posted by: SZombie at September 12, 2008 11:28 PM

Such a relief. I was afraid they would get carried away with themselves. "Look how cute we/our style are/is!" a la Christopher Guest.

p.s. tilda& francis = yummy

Posted by: eliza at September 13, 2008 12:51 AM

"...that weird "people cheese" smell of unwashed crevices..."

Great phrase in a not-so-great way.

Posted by: Recondite at September 13, 2008 12:53 AM

Since there were a few other people timidly voicing skepticism (I don't think I can count Chuck. Chuck: WTF?!), I thought I'd throw my vote in for also finding it hard to believe that this is really that good! When I saw the previews I thought that it looked like an unfortunate collection of snark--that and I figured I'd spend the whole movie watching Brad Pitt playing the idiot and wondering why anyone else is not distracted by the unbelievability of that being called acting.
With that said, however, I have not actually seen the movie yet. Although even with this glowing stamp of approval, I think I'll wait for the DVD.

Posted by: staylor at September 13, 2008 1:06 AM

He had a lot to say... he had a lot of nothing to say, we'll miss him. We're gonna miss him.

Brad Pitt was awesome in Snatch. And Fight Club.

I can't wait to see this movie!

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at September 13, 2008 1:27 AM

After Constantine came out I had a bunch of people come up to me to tell me that I looked just like "that chick who played the angel dude". Therefore, I'm always happy to see Tilda Swinton in roles that accentuate her natural beauty, as it helps both of us.

Seriously though, I really want to see this over the weekend and I'll be damned if Chuck stops me. Brad Pitt makes me tingly.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at September 13, 2008 2:07 AM

Oh Anna, thank you for the Tool quote. That just made my night.

As for the movie, I'm excited for it. Even if it's just good and not great, I'm happy to be entertained by clever people enjoying each others' company. Also, John Malkovich punching Brad Pitt is well worth the ticket price.

Posted by: kalexal at September 13, 2008 2:20 AM

Hey everybody!
Sorry I was a contentious douche!
I can't get a woman to look at me without paying for it and feel the need to exorcise my sexless anger by inflicting it on you people!
But I'm beeing scathey and bitching so it's all good right?

Posted by: Chuck at September 13, 2008 3:52 AM

Well... we had planned to see the new TP flick but it was sold out, so we saw this. We were not disappointed.

Posted by: Ciji at September 13, 2008 3:55 AM

I think Chuck has issues regarding his trolling qualities.

As for BAR, I'll go see it as soon as Ike passes by. Even in the Coens' misfires (like Intolerable Cruelty and The Ladykillers) I always manage to pull out a nugget or two of quality humor.

You brought yo bitch to the Waffle Hut?! or the Tenzing Norgay speech being two such nuggets.

Posted by: BFFredo at September 13, 2008 4:20 AM

saw the movie last night, and i'm still deciding what the hell i think of the whole damn thing! (which is not the norm for me. i'm usually way too opinionated.)

here's a random list of random thoughts, in the order it comes out of my random head:

the actors are all playing parts written specifically for them, and it felt a little christopher guestish. (yeah, i just invented a word!) they all knocked it out of the park, but like the actors in guest's films, it felt almost...too easy.

the best & funniest moments are in the damned trailer! i am officially boycotting trailers.

some dumbass guy sitting behind us (chuck???) kept making inane comments, like, "john malkovich needs to punch that bitch in the face instead of brad pitt!" (about swinton's character, of course.)

not the best coen movie, but decent, real decent. i don't want to give the filmmakers a free ride because i love most of their work. i also don't want to be overly critical. we can't expect a "no country for old lebowski" every time!

so yeah, i'm torn.

but did anyone notice the scene early on, where malkovich is on the boat with his father? i could have sworn it was robert altman! i've checked the credits and the character of cox's father isn't listed. is it possible altman filmed this scene before passing away in 2006?

Posted by: glittergirl at September 13, 2008 7:05 AM

i could have sworn it was robert altman!

Oh yeah! I forgot about that. I was doing some fuzzy mental math in my head, but....it looked just like him. The face was in the foreground. If it was they seem to not be saying so yet.

Posted by: Jay at September 13, 2008 7:28 AM

I can't get a woman to look at me without paying for it and feel the need to exorcise my sexless anger by inflicting it on you people!

Wow! That's...exactly what I expected after seeing you use the word 'emasculated' as many times as you did to describe Brad Pitt, of all people. Hmmm...

As for the movie, I was looking forward to it before this review, and I still am now, so good job.

Posted by: Genevieve at September 13, 2008 8:30 AM

This sucks. I want to see the movie, and your review seems good from the beginning, but you get into enough plot details that I can't read it past the first two paragraphs without spoiling too much of the movie for myself.

I'm in a tight spot.

Posted by: Lucas at September 13, 2008 9:45 AM

it's impossible to view Burn After Reading as anything other than another film in which the Coens create a small world of idiosyncratic characters and then watch them run into each other. The script is packed with smart jokes, dumb people, and moments in which the writer-directors do nothing but bask in the cognitive dissonance

That's basically Dan's conclusion with no spoilers and a general idea of the style. We sometimes agree and I'm endorsing his endorsement here.

Posted by: Jay at September 13, 2008 10:35 AM

Watching this just for Sledgehammer alone.

Posted by: lawnjart at September 13, 2008 2:27 PM

Watching this just for Sledgehammer alone.

Here I thought I might be the only one excited!

Posted by: Jay at September 13, 2008 3:16 PM

Daniel, I can't read your reviews until after I've seen a movie, and sometimes not then. As an English teacher, I would tell you to lay off the plot summary if you were my student.

Why you gotta do a play-by-play in every review? I read your review of 3:10 to Yuma and I wished I hadn't as soon as I started the movie. Sometimes suspense is most of what these movies have going for them, and while I'm not accusing you of any serious spoilers, it's nice to have a movie unfold before you like virgin territory.

I dig your voice, but so many times I just have to pass up the review and end up forgetting to come back and read it. This makes me sad!

Posted by: AM at September 13, 2008 3:39 PM

I guess the intensely smart person at 3:52 a.m. who left a comment in my name, must have had a light bulb moment.
Hmmm, I guess being overly critical of anything dealing with the Coen Brothers is just not kosher here.
I wonder if being uber sensitive is part of being part of the Brad Pitt Super Fan Club.

Posted by: Chuck at September 13, 2008 3:43 PM

I love the fact, that someone who isn't part of the usual Pajiba crowd, makes a comment, and it brings out the mob mentality in people.
Boo-hoo, you're trolling, boo-hoo, you didn't see the movie, boo-hoo, you must be from the south
Boo-hoo, you don't understand the intricate plots these wonderful directors are trying to portray.
If you can come up with one original movie concept the Coen twins have brought to cinema, please explain.......

Posted by: Chuck at September 13, 2008 3:59 PM

Okay

1. Personally insult those present

2. Cry "lynch mob", act offended and accuse present of being unable to withstand differences in opinion and critical thought when you were only trying to voice a different perspective.

You know, just this week I told someone they were acting like a troll, using the typical troll style (in this case the conservative module). Said person said I was making a serious accusation and asked what the hell I meant by a typical troll style.

Please. I know about the playbook, alright? I just don't believe you're an actual person, which is when I start regretting the time writing this.

Posted by: Jay at September 13, 2008 4:28 PM

Of course I'm not just talking about Pajiba. If only, eh?

Posted by: Jay at September 13, 2008 4:31 PM

1. Personally insult those present

2. Cry "lynch mob", act offended and accuse present of being unable to withstand differences in opinion and critical thought when you were only trying to voice a different perspective.

...added to the claim that it wasn't actually him who said the things he said...I've had enough of dumb trolls for the year.

Posted by: Genevieve at September 13, 2008 5:32 PM

Can I talk about the movie? I liked it. It was no Barton Fink or Big Lebowski (where art thou, John Turtorro?), but thank godtopus it wasn't Intolerable Cruelty, either.

The audience was laughing at Brad Pitt's silly, goofy grin and dance moves, and then spoiler alert BANG! and I was like, "O, Right. Coen Brothers' movie."

Posted by: Girlnone at September 13, 2008 6:09 PM

You know what, Chuck? You are absolutely right. I mean, seriously, how dare we jump down your throat for merely calling us jerk-offs and pansy asses and implying that we actually like Will Farrell?

I, for one, would like to apologize for calling you on your bullshit. It was rude and cruel of me to disagree with your eloquently made points about the motherfucking Coen Brothers being hack jobs. Here I was, foolishly thinking that the force behind The Big Lobowski, No Country, and Fargo were excellent filmmakers. Thank you, Chuck, for setting me straight.

Posted by: Marra at September 13, 2008 6:58 PM

For Coen Bros. sake!
Would someone fix the fucking Post Comment,
so that every fucking Movie review,
doesn't have double fucking comments throughout the whole fucking list!

Posted by: Chuck at September 13, 2008 8:22 PM

For Coen Bros. sake!
Would someone fix the fucking Post Comment,
so that every fucking Movie review,
doesn't have double fucking comments throughout the whole fucking list!

Posted by: Chuck at September 13, 2008 8:23 PM

By conservative trolling module,
do you mean I wipe up after a pearl necklace, or leave it to get all sticky?

Posted by: Chuck at September 13, 2008 8:25 PM

You're right, I'm sorry for implying that you like Will Farrell.
Even Will Farrell doesn't like Will Farrell (see Stepbrothers)

Posted by: Chuck at September 13, 2008 8:38 PM

Loved this movie - laugh out loud cause asthma attack funny. Having said that....

Picking of nits 1st - Daniel, I think "Once Linda and Harry get involved, the Coens really have to force the plots to interweave, just let things keep on rolling." was supposed to read "rarely" instead of really, yes?

"McDormand... -- is fantastic and wounded and unable to hold onto her life as it begins to unravel, and she brings a wonderful air of likeability and grace to the role"... Couldn't disagree more, Linda is more unlikeable than Tilda's character and in the end they are the only characters who survive and get what they want.

And lastly for some scathing/bitchy of my own I'd watch this movie a dozen times rather than live through the last 10 minutes of No Country for old Dudes again.

Just saying...

Posted by: amobogio at September 13, 2008 8:39 PM

Umm, my personal opinion (of Chuck, not the movie) is that Chuck is too douchey and ridiculously inflammatory to be real. He must be another fake-out. Seriously, such wacked-out, idiotic vitriol spewed forth with such potency? Mr Chuck, consider us soaked with the ejaculation of your faux-idiocy.

And if you are real, which is a scary but real possibility: If your pearl necklace of ranting anywhere near approached intelligence or humour we would welcome you with scathing, bitchy open arms. But it's not, so stop. And please, clean up after yourself, no one likes to be sticky.

Posted by: JJ McCLay at September 13, 2008 10:01 PM

They need to ramble on less and tie things together better. I think the Big Lebowski, although being a comedy, did the best job of this. As well did Fargo (and I absolutely love McDormand in this one in particular, she was a total doll!). No Country For Old Men left me scratching my head a bit in terms of where it went did not particulary please me. This movie has a fantastic cast though, I'd probably just catch it because I LOVE the Coen bros. Their films are always quality. Yes I'm totally biased just like all Pajibans on here!

Posted by: ph at September 13, 2008 10:04 PM

I have to speak in defense of Mr. Rogen: he's trying to make a living and not trying to please everyone either. If he has a fanbase to please, then whatever, if you don't like his movies then don't watch them. But bitching about him taking a break? IT's like asking any of us working stiffs to take a break from our jobs for the sake...of who...exactly?

Posted by: ph at September 13, 2008 10:12 PM

By conservative trolling module,
do you mean I wipe up after a pearl necklace, or leave it to get all sticky?

To quote Blue Oyster Cult: What does that mean?

Posted by: Jay at September 13, 2008 10:28 PM

Worst. Movie. Ever.

Posted by: Jaunt Piece at September 13, 2008 10:48 PM

If Bedhead's ending "phoning it in" then I want the Comic Book Guy line out of my life.


I also invite Ms./Mr. Piece to spend some time with Coleman Francis and Bill Rebane. There is so much more that life has to show you. Granted, having John Carradine croon your movie's theme song raises it some points, but then the rest of the movie happens.

Posted by: Jay at September 13, 2008 11:02 PM

Before Snatch and Fightclub, there was Thelma and Louise and True Romance.

Posted by: rosie at September 14, 2008 9:32 AM

Kalifornia...

Posted by: Recondite at September 14, 2008 3:21 PM

It seems that there's no crowd to follow on this one -- you guys are all over the place. Typical Coen Bros.

Saw this yesterday and...liked it, for the most part. I really wasn't sure what to expect, and I'm still not sure what I got. Call it qualified love, a la Jay (at least I thought his love was qualified). The pacing is rather epileptic; things will dawdle for quite awhile, then there will be a small electrical storm of activity.

I'm also down with the McDormand love. She was terrific in this role, all needy insecurity in a charmingly naive wrapper. I loved J.K. Simmons' bit work here too (he rocked as Juno's dad). And good Godtopus is he busy! According to imdb he has six movies in post-production right now. Malkovich gnawed on the scenery just a tad and Clooney and Pitt were on cruise control, but overall it was a nice ensemble piece. Oh, almost forgot about Tilda Swinton. The Guv-a-nator's Mr. Freeze has nothing on her character here -- she's so frigid in this I'm surprised that Clooney's dick didn't break off and hit the floor after their romp on the boat...

Ultimately, though, I can't get overly excited about pure character pieces that don't have any greater reason for being than to let the actors play.

Note to Chuck: please(!) post some more after September 18th; I want to give you a special shout-out...

Posted by: Che Grovera at September 14, 2008 6:31 PM

HEY Pajibans our *El Presidente* CHE! CHE! CHE! is here, out of his bunker I see, why don't come on down and mingle with the crowd so we can shoo..err greet you...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 14, 2008 6:39 PM

Qualified? I suppose that's fitting enough. It maybe shouldn't spend so much time quietly setting up dominoes and not paying attention to me, but I thought the payoffs were well worth it. I didn't need a batch of comfort food to make it through the rest of the day like I did after "No Country" at least!

Posted by: Jay at September 14, 2008 6:53 PM

Chuck just ain't bona fide.

Best thing he ever did was get hit by that train.

Posted by: figgylicious at September 14, 2008 7:45 PM

Chuck reminds me of the assholes in literary magazine class that still think that saying "Hollywood sucks!" is somehow new or interesting. Ironic considering that the point being made is that nothing Hollywood makes is new or interesting.

Blanket statements are foolish. Yes, Hollywood churns out shit sometimes, but sometimes it also produces genuinely fun, awesome movies. Like Burn After Reading. I saw it today with my roommate and we both found it to be a fantastically acted {love love LOVE Tilda Swinton and the rest of the cast}, expertly written and just a ton of fun.

So, despite all of his dismissive and rancorous posturing, I think Chuck's deprived himself. He can whine away and bitch himself into an ulcer. I'll enjoy the occasional gems.

Posted by: Saint Saturn Sunshine at September 14, 2008 8:33 PM

HEY Pajibans our *El Presidente* CHE! CHE! CHE! is here, out of his bunker I see, why don't come on down and mingle with the crowd so we can shoo..err greet you...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 14, 2008 6:39 PM

I won't be shoo'd away that easily, Slim! That bearded Grover you've been following is my stunt double...sucker. I went to the cinema in my Fozzie Bear get-up; the fedora fools 'em every time. Now that the game is afoot, though, I think I'll commission a pope-mobile for my mingling. The people love me, and that's what matters...you and your rogue ilk will just have to suffer in frustration while the revolution rolls inexorably forward.

Posted by: Che Grovera at September 14, 2008 9:12 PM

Just got back from watching Burn After Reading and it was everything I thought it'd be: dumb, light, stupid and hilarious.

The Coens may be famous for the evil and twisted characters they can conjure up (guys like Anton Chigurh and Leo O'Bannon), but their hearts really lie with the idiots, the goofballs and the numbskulls. Characters like Ulysses Everett McGill and The Dude and Chad. And they love to show us that we're more like Chad and Linda and Osborne and Harry; stumbling in the dark and pretending to know we're on top of things when we know nothing about the overall picture.

Now is Burn on the level of Miller's Crossing or No Country for Old Men? No. It's way too disposable to reach that level. But it's good. Damn good.

Posted by: BFFredo at September 14, 2008 11:42 PM

I gotta say it: I was real, real disappointed with this one. Just no punch to it; I think the funniest scenes/visuals were included in the preview - and that's a sad state of affairs for a Coen Brothers' film.

Posted by: yahoodle at September 15, 2008 12:37 AM

I'm not getting all the hating on Brad Pitt. His appearance was brief, granted, but the homoerotic overtones of his two lines, the boyish insouchance, and those shorts launched the piece to another level. Fortunately Kimmel and Afleck were willing to take that energy and go with it.

And what's with ragging on Clooney? Again, with a brief appearance he gave the piece a valuable grace note, honking if you're f**king Ben Affleck. The only thing missing was that Mr. Pitt didn't sing.

Oh wait. This isn't about that? But what about:

create a small world of idiosyncratic characters and then watch them run into each other. The script is packed with smart (OK dumb - BA) ) jokes, dumb people, and moments in which the writer-directors do nothing but bask in the cognitive dissonance

Really? Never mind.

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at September 15, 2008 1:47 AM

Re: Chuck possibly being from a southy location

I'm in one of the southier locations (Baton Rouge, LA to be precise), and not only was the theater surprisingly full for a Sunday night (although the fact that huge chunks of our residential areas are still without power probably makes that a little less surprising), pretty much everyone in the audience laughed a lot and seemed to really enjoy the movie.

As for me, it isn't my favorite Coen brothers movie, but I liked it a lot and it had me cracking up more than a few times.

Posted by: PaleoLithchick at September 15, 2008 2:03 AM

Saw it. Loved it.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at September 15, 2008 11:33 AM

Long ago in a diversion far, far away, my "worst movie ever" cast involved John Malkovich playing two roles; one of them he was hard of hearing, and another he had a russian accent. That said, I love him. Did the words "nay" and "shall" make their way out of his mouth?

I will be seeing this very soon.

/my opinion, man.

Posted by: that bees chick at September 15, 2008 11:50 AM

And as I'm saying "Hollywood Sucks," everyone keeps shelling out hard earned doe, because it's a "Coen Brothers" movie, so like sheep you must go watch.
I guess you keep buying Banana Republic because of it's name brand as well?

Posted by: Chuck at September 15, 2008 7:42 PM

And as I'm saying "Hollywood Sucks," everyone keeps shelling out hard earned doe, because it's a "Coen Brothers" movie, so like sheep you must go watch. I guess you keep buying Banana Republic because of it's name brand as well?

Posted by: Chuck at September 15, 2008 7:42 PM

Doe - a deer, a female deer,
Chuck - the one we want to shun...

Posted by: Che Grovera at September 15, 2008 9:16 PM

*sigh*

It's "its".

I got a real mean streak about homophones, lemme tell ya.

Posted by: Jay at September 15, 2008 10:18 PM

Did I spy with my little eye some serious political commentary in this movie that no one has mentioned?

SPOILS AHEAD
The fact that the two most innocent characters are virtually sacrificed for no reason because of paranoid idiots forced into violence while being watched by a Big Brother that has no fucking clue what is going on??

END THE SPOILS

Posted by: boo at September 16, 2008 9:56 AM

Who's innocent? Everyone's a serious criminal of one kind or another. I don't think there's really any sacrifice.

However, the government response rings pretty true.

Posted by: Jay at September 16, 2008 10:25 AM

SPOILS
Jay, I would say Chad and Ted, the gym manager, are the 'fools' to the other characters' desires and manipulations, mainly Linda's. Chad initially says he wants the 'good samaritan award', but Linda is the one that takes that phone call to the next level, virtually threatening Cox because she sees a way to get what she wants. She is actually the one character pushing this whole fiasco forward (threats, ramming Cox's car, going to the Russians, etc.).

Posted by: boo at September 16, 2008 10:38 AM

Ah! Yes, I'll definitely give you Ted, forgot about him.


Don't look at me that way, Ted. I know how ya feel.

Posted by: Jay at September 16, 2008 10:56 AM

Jay:

it's a Coen Brothers movie,
as in

it is a Coen Brothers movie

Posted by: Chuck at September 16, 2008 9:33 PM

Chuck's right

Its or It's?

Its is the possessive pronoun; it modifies a noun.


It's is a contraction of it is or it has.


Incorrect: The mother cat carried it's kitten in it's mouth.
(Possessive pronoun, no apostrophe)

Correct: The mother cat carried its kitten in its mouth.

Correct: I think it's going to rain today.
(Contraction of it is)

Correct: It's been a very long time.
(Contraction of it has)

Posted by: Paleolithchick at September 16, 2008 9:45 PM

Shouldn't we close this tragedy called a forum, from all future comments?
It's really gotten us all nowhere, and now it's all about grammar error nitpicking, wow fun.
Jay, be sure to probe everyone else's comments as well! I'm sure someone misplaced a semicolon.

Posted by: Chuck at September 16, 2008 9:50 PM

I guess you keep buying Banana Republic because of it's name brand as well?

Posted by: Chuck at September 15, 2008 7:42 PM

Paleolithchick, please explain how the grammar in Chuck's above statement is in keeping with the rules of any variant of the English language.

Posted by: Che Grovera at September 16, 2008 9:52 PM

It's really gotten us all nowhere, and now it's all about grammar error nitpicking, wow fun.

Posted by: Chuck at September 16, 2008 9:50 PM

The hills are alive...with the sound of up-chuck.

Spelling and grammar matter as much as any other component of critical thinking, Chuck. Skimp on one and you skimp on the rest.

Posted by: Che Grovera at September 16, 2008 9:56 PM

Dear Pajiba responders:
I can nitpick through entire postings, and come across of spelling errors, grammar errors, typing errors, incorrect punctuation and make believe computer abbreviations and acronyms.
So please, just because I shit on the Coen's, don't take your hostility out on one apostrophe fuck up.
Thanks and have a scathing day.

Posted by: Chuck at September 17, 2008 9:42 AM

Oh and Che,
if you want to idolize left wing ball-less wonders, by using their name in a slightly cute manner,
could you at least use an African one....
They seem to be getting no respect lately by the media.

Posted by: Chuck at September 17, 2008 9:46 AM

So please, just because I shit on the Coen's, don't take your hostility out on one apostrophe fuck up.

Try again, Chuck, try again. Have a scathing day yourself!

Posted by: meaux at September 17, 2008 10:25 AM

As a major grammar offender I'll stay well clear of this little skirmish.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 17, 2008 10:39 AM

So, um, yeah...political overtones. In the movie. Sheesh.

Posted by: boo at September 17, 2008 10:43 AM

if you want to idolize left wing ball-less wonders, by using their name in a slightly cute manner, could you at least use an African one.... They seem to be getting no respect lately by the media.

Posted by: Chuck at September 17, 2008 9:46 AM

Che was a eunuch?

*looks down*

Damn those G-rated muppets anyhow...nothing gets by you, huh, Chuck?

There is sometimes a fine line between being scathing and being an ass. While I try to keep my crossings to a minimum, I know I'm not always successful. You, on the other hand, seem to delight in thumbing your nose at us from the far side. That's your prerogative, but quit acting so surprised when you meet resistance.

Also, I'm not sure which African one(s) you might have in mind; Ernesto did time in the Congo so maybe that will keep you at bay for now. I'm not an apologist for Che by any means, but he was a populist foremost and I can live with any other criticisms of a freakin' screen name...

Posted by: Che Grovera at September 17, 2008 11:05 AM

Brad Pitt can be so funny, as long as he's not taking himself too seriously... in any case, it's about time someone made good use of his, habitually spastic arm movements

Posted by: movie buff at September 20, 2008 1:50 PM

Ok, I've been a reader for a while and I saw this last night.

Hilarious. Fucked up, but hilarious.

Posted by: Milton at September 23, 2008 2:11 PM

Sat in the back row of the matinee yesterday and giggled like a fuckin' idiot all the way through. The Coen brothers have created another masterpiece. Brad Pitt is hilarious in this. Wished he'd do more comedies. Check out "True Romance" for another great comedic role by him.

Posted by: Phil at September 26, 2008 12:47 PM



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