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Robot Cock!

SatC was brilliant! Bollocks to all the "I'm a guy's guy" snobs (you included, DR). In it's prime, it was some of the best writing on TV, a window into the female psyche for all men to explore/exploit and the movie does the show justice.

If you're a guy who won't watch it 'cause it's a "chick flick," you probably don't have a lot of interaction with females (again, that's probably you, DR) because you don't understand what makes them tick. While not having ALL the answers for you, SatC is a good start.

Hugely enjoyable movie, highly recommended.

Now, you're just being sexist, boogs. I've seen all the "SaTC" episodes, and even liked the first fews seasons (see, e.g., my review). And I wouldn't dismiss your opinions of a football film because you're a woman or assume you don't have a lot of interaction with men. That's just insulting. And I'm faux offended at your stereotypical observations and presumptions. Hmph. -- DR

You know, I normally don't give two tugs of a dead robot's cock about the ads here, but motherfucking PETA?

Yeah, that's a real nice page title, Mr. Rowles. Looks good on an IE7 tab too (assuming one is at work like me).

You are mischievous this morning.

Yes, I'm feeling the release slump too. I have some excitement for Wall-E, but everything else is "well....maybe". At least I had the opening to finally see "Son of Rambow". "Space Chimps", why can't you get here any faster???

Still, jolly good chance to catch up on my Dickens!

DR:

Actually I'm a guy (happily married with two kids), but the fact that you thought I was a woman I consider something of a compliment inasmuchas I think my past successes with the fairer sex are mainly due to my understanding them a little better than most of my male contemporaries.

I have, it's fair to say, been called metrosexual on more than one occasion and consider myself somewhat "gay" (and all the stereotypes that may imply) with the major exception that I just find only women attractive (not that I can't appreciate what constitutes a "handsome" guy, though).

Your comments suggest that you wouldn't want to sit through the film not because it's a bad piece of cinema, but because it's "a bunch of women talking about women's stuff." If this isn't the case, and you truly think it's a bad movie, I apologize.

LB - you and your friends may be right in saying that it would be "cruel and unusual punishment to make a guy sit through all 2.5 hours of SatC" if you're talking about the "average male."

There are many of us, though, that don't consider ourselves "the average male" (I think the very notion of what constitutes an "average male" is changing, and is certainly not the same thing in Europe).

Again, if you sort-of liked the show, then I can see you sort-of liking the movie. My point is that someone's level of affection for the show will probably be commensurate with their level of affection for the movie.

You see boogs, it's people like you that elevate my feeling towards SatC from mere dislike to hatred. People who insist that the series/film is not just entertainment, but some kind of huge step for womankind. People who insist that if we don't like it we're a bunch of closed-minded sexists. People who insist that SatC is somehow a real representation of the majority of women. If the majority of women actually were that shallow and fashion-dependant and narrow-minded, I'd change my sexual preference to robot cock in an instant. Thank Godtopus most women are nothing like that (at least, the ones I've met/befriended/loved).

So apparently I'm the only one more upset by the lack of Monty in 'Still Waiting'...wonder if they'll have him carted off for statutory rape? Its probably the one decent movie that also happens to have Dane Cook in it-for like five mins since that's the maximum amount of time he can be funny.

Bistro - Jeez, and I thought I was coming off a bit high and mighty! When did I say that SatC had all the answers or was "a huge step for womankind" or a real representation of real women?

What I DID say was that it had terrific writing and insight into the female mind. There's a reason beyond the superficial why the show was so popular and such a cultural phenomenon - it struck a chord with women (and so says almost every woman I know who's SEEN the show). I, for one, learned a lot about the way some women think through watching the show.

The fact that my opinion of SatC could somehow alter your perception of the whole thing from didlike to hatred says more about you than anything else.

If you "hate" it because you think it's shallow and the women in it are narrow-minded, then, with respect, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It's not The Hills, for fuck's sake.

Just like saying The Sopranos or The Larry Sanders Show or The Wire are great isn't a matter of opinion, your opinion of SatC once again fits the stereotype of "most men."

Women can watch it all they want, I'd rather talk to them later about something else than try to glean anything from the show or share the experience (again, Judy Blume's "Summer Sisters" was an unintentional eye opener. I really don't need to look under the hood that badly when it's that scary). That's not to put down women's entertainment, I just have no interest in exploring these characters. Almost all of my friends are women (we seem to have a rapport that mostly doesn't exist between other men and I), but I tend to be talking about 30 Rock, Doctor Who and Elvis Costello with them.

Alright, I'm tired of arguing now.

Question: When did Justin Long go from someone I liked and looked forward to seeing get work to someone who makes me say "Again? Ugh..."? It wasn't the Mac ads... I think it was Die Hardest. Anyone else have a better spot to pinpoint his turn?

I can't believe that I come on here and the first thing I see is an argument over the merits of SaTC. I'm just going to go and get myself a cup of tea and hopefully when I get back, someone will have come up with an interesting way to use the Robot Cock in a game of Scrabble.

Mmmmm. I wish I could care about what some guy thinks is an insightful look into the female mind, but I can't. Perhaps it's because I'm too busy working a real job and keeping a relationship going that isn't based on what my husband can buy me. By the way, you do know that while some percentage of the source material was written by Candace Bushnell, the show episodes and the film were all writte by a man?

So, I don't watch SATC and haven't seen the movie, but did anyone else catch the MTV Movie Awards last night? (shut up, sundays are bad TV days, it's in the gospel) They had Sarah Jessica Parker presenting an award with Jennifer Hudson. SJP's head was level with Jennifer Hudson's boobs and about the same size, it was very unintentionally amusing.

I want to see Iron Man again and pretend that all the movies I will see this summer will be that satisfying. Then again, I can make that happen by just seeing Iron Man over and over again until Dark Knight comes out.

Also, who saw the Venture Brothers premiere last night? Anyone want to talk about that instead of SATC?

I hope they do make a sequel to Sex and the City. And I hope it finally goes to the place where the series has been hinting that it's going to be heading for six years. No more sex, or relationships, or friendhsips, or double entendres. No, let's have a movie about what these characters truly obsess over, lust after, and love with all their heart.

It's called Shoe in the City. And it will be two and a half hours of these four girls fucking shoes. Sitting around, drinking cosmos and shoving those motherfucking Manolo Blahniks up their twats as they masturbate themselves to a better life and smaller feet.

It will make millions.

Really? REALLY? We're still talking about this? I thought this was where I could get away from people talking about this.

Genny, I missed the Venture Bros. premiere on account of being very drunk. Is there anywhere to catch it online?

The Venture Brothers once again decided to go fucking batshit. They look like they are going to focus on The Monarch and Dr. Girlfriend more this season. Or at least from the first episode, at least. It was definitely one of those episodes for people who have been watching the show. If you just joined in, you'd have no idea about seventy percent of the jokes they were making. But I laughed. Then again, I was whacked out of my gourd on cold medicine, so it could have been that. But I think it bodes well for the season.

Venture Brothers is one of the most brilliant things to come down the animation pike in a long, long time. You'd do yourself well to get the season 1 dvds and start there.

For the love of Godtopus, waiting was only funny because of Ryan Reynolds. What the hell are they thinking?

Yeah, I don't know. Might've been the Mac ads, since I'm all anti-Jobs and his cult of smug, wee beady eyes. But I did notice there was a change from "hey, that likable kid on 'Ed'" to "oh no, HE'S in Die Hard? I hope that's not a bad sign!" But he was alright so I don't have much of a problem at this point.

I'm unshamefully admitting that I thought that SATC was hilarious and at times, witty, and that I thoroughly enjoyed myself. I also thought there was enough body-related humour and titties for your average hetero(*cough* normative) male to enjoy, or so it would seem by some of their comments.

I can't help but wonder why it is seen as "shameful" to enjoy a "female driven" movie, yet it is ok, even cool, for a woman to enjoy a more "male driven" movie like Spiderman, or Superbad (equally superficial fluff) or the like. Maybe just a little bit of inequality there...

Agente Provocatrice - well said.

It's almost seen as some sort of badge of honor to hate SatC 'round these parts.

I mean, god(topus) forbid you think for yoursleves and NOT jump on the backlash bandwagon!

Agente Provocatrice, a theory for you...most of the "female driven" entertainment out there is written by males. Males who would write equally shitty "male driven" entertainment and would inflict the same amount of pain on the world. Most females flock to it because it's the same universal situations everyone seeks to romanticize, but portrayed with a decidedly female bent on the same old wish fulfillment. They enjoy it, even on a guilty pleasure level, much as guys enjoy such movies.

Try to get a guy to watch it though, and you'll meet with mostly disastrous results; much like you would trying to get a woman to watch the male equivalent of Sex and the City. The point is, labels are still labels, and Sex and the City is almost like the female Superbad. Only it lacks the charm, star power, and general brevity of its running time to be endearing with the public. It's not that female driven movies are bad, it's just that sometimes they're just as bad as male driven movies, and the only reason they gain notice is because, well...they're female instead of male.

Just a biased opinion though, and before anyone questions it, yes I've seen some episodes of the show and I hated that too. Neither am I against all "chick flicks", I was quite fond of Serendipity and The Sweetest Thing (if that even counts).

Jay, there was so much goodness in that episode for people who have watched the whole series at least two or three times. Did you catch that Mexican wrestler from Dia de los Dangerous?

I can't wait to see what happens to Phantom Limb, he always seemed like he could be a much better villain but his own petty got in the way. I wouldn't want the guy coming after ME, I'll tell you that much.

OK, I really should get back to work now. I'm sorry if I apppear to be argumentative, it just fucks me off when I see an irrational hatred of something for a fucked-up reason ('cause it's a chick flick that perhaps, dare I say, aspires to be something more).

Is SatC so offensive that so many people greatly desire it to fail?

Samuel Erikson - You're bothered about an ad for PETA?

From where I'm sitting I can see, not one, but two ads for the web site celebrating 25 Years of Tom Cruise!

I come here to get away from the toothy midget.

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"Try to get a guy to watch it though, and you'll meet with mostly disastrous results; much like you would trying to get a woman to watch the male equivalent of Sex and the City."

I don't know about mostly disastrous, Mike R.; my husband (who, for the record, is about as un-metrosexual as they come) has had the odd chuckle watching Sex and the City on TV. As Agent Provocatrice said, there's plenty of raunch and boobies to appeal to the menfolk (hell, there was even a poo joke thrown into the movie for good measure).

Likewise, I had a few laughs during Superbad, although I concur that it would help to have been a teenaged boy in order to fully appreciate it.

*sigh*

I do think it's a bit silly that, just because the protagonists are women, many people are quick to dismiss a movie as being FOR women only.

Oh yeah, Bo Diddley's dead.

THAT is what's worth being upset about.

You know, I think you earned the vitrol by coming across as kind of a tool -- and not in a particularly interesting or funny way. Seriously. You can be a grade A asshole around here and be absolutely beloved, but you have to be the right kind of asshole.

Honestly? I liked Sex and the City when it was on the air (the first few seasons were the ones I liked best, but I found things to enjoy in the later seasons as well). I saw the movie, and I thought parts of it were cute. I read your comments and I wanted to shove a Manolo Blahnik up your nose. Not just the stiletto. The whole damn shoe.

It was a visceral reaction that I can't really explain. I was also immediately convinced that if the SaTC ladies were real, they'd think you were a douchebag.

Now, you're probably a very nice person who doesn't deserve to go through life with an overpriced piece of footwear permanently lodged in your nasal cavities (and just RUINING your profile),and you're probably NOT ACTUALLY the sort of man that roving packs of sexually vociferous women in $700 outfits would point and laugh at while applying the nom de plum "Mr. Douchebag" on the gritty yet glamorous streets of New York City. But when you get on a website like this one and then detour both the high and (occasionally amusing) low roads in favor of the smug ramp onto the pretentiousness turnpike, people are probably going to react to that.

We only do smug pretension ironically here.

You know, as a woman, I'd like to go on record as saying that any guy who feels that liking SaTC gives him some sort of special insight into my psyche is probably a guy that I won't date, won't be friends with, and WILL mock in social situations. What can I say? I'm not the Carrie, I'm not the Miranda, I'm not the Samantha, and as much as I covet her wardrobe I am not the Charlotte. I'm the Cranky Bitch, and people thinking that the inner workings of me will correlate to a fun TV show written by gay men and a group of women who have very little in common with me regionally and culturally total sets off my Things That Will Make Me Go Stabby radar.

But yeah, I wouldn't take it personally. Kinda like Harry Hamlin just has a really punchable face, you've just really had a couple of punchable posts.

Jay, I had to go check to see if that was true. That is a major loss for the music world. Even if he was unable to perform anymore.

SATC in the beginning was smart, funny, and edgy. After season 5, it all went downhill and apparently the movie continues that trend. I watched the whole series run. I cannot count the number of times I wished someone would have slapped Ms. Bradshaw. Miranda rang more true for me than the rest of the characters, at least early Miranda.

Will I go see the movie? Nope. I have more pressing matters, such as Iron Man and The Dark Knight. I do love a man in a Batsuit. Mmm..batsuit...mmm...

I liked the show until the last season and a half. Me and the Mr. used to watch it and found it quite amusing. The idea of the movie does not appeal to me, because for me the show was done and I did not want to re-visit it.

I can understand why men would not want to watch this movie or the show. To each his/her own. But having recently endured a 7 1/2 hour flight in which the passengers were punished for flying United by being asked to endure "27 Dresses", I have to ask: "Where are all of the movies 'for women' that are not idiotic romances?'

I'm old. I'm happily married. I'm done with dating and searching for the perfect guy. I'm tired. And at this point in my life I would rather watch Iron Man than SatC.

R.I.P Bo Diddley.

There were vampire-zombie hybrids with robot cocks in the basement of my apartment building for months. We lost two exterminators before they managed to kill the queen vampire-zombie hybrid with a robot cock. Nasty buggers.

Okay boogs:

You've done it now. You've brought Austen into it. I cannot stand idly by and watch Austen once-again misinterpreted as the chick lit of her or or have her characters' intentions and motivations subverted to today's perceptions. Of the three Austen characters you mention, only one, Marianne, was fully dedicated to finding a man although even she was more dedicated to finding a grande passion than to finding a man per se and there is absolutely no doubt that Marianne would have married a pauper if he had been the one to woo her with the right poetry and romantic gestures. Emma had no interest in finding a man and no motivation to do so, being terrifically independently wealthy and enjoying a superior position in society that would not change based on her married status. Her interest was in finding a man for everyone else, less because she thought women needed men and more because she felt it to be an extension of her duty as the local patroness to ensure the lessers were provided for. Elinor Dashwood was about as far away from the SATC/DevilWearsPrada chick flick mentality as one could be despite the pressures of her era and circumstances that would have actually justified her in being avaricious and status-minded in seeking a husband. Elinor despises everything about the Regency emphasis on appearance and fashion (the only thing the period has in common with NYC ala SATC). She happens to fall in love, but would just as easily remain unattached and would never pursue an attachment that would compromise her values in any way. Austen is about women who lived in a very different time and under different social strictures deciding to rise above the shallow expectations of the fashionable class and deciding to eschew marriage as a comfortable solution in favor of marriage only as the meeting of minds and hearts. Austen was not at the time nor is it now chick lit. And if anyone says otherwise, I will hunt you down and shove a perfectly trimmed silk bonnet up your asses.

Jay, I'm wicked jealous. I still can't do the bittorrent thing (my computer BLOWS) and I have to wait patiently for my Doctor fix on Friday nights at 9. But Rose! With a big gun! And The Darkness! Coming soon!

Anyway, I hope by now that boogs (that name makes me think of the Disney Sunday Night movie event featuring the scary monster man who used to say "Boogedy boogedy boo!" and had a face like grilled cheese) is gone. Seriously, and I say this again - PAJIBA IS MY HAPPY PLACE. I'm all for a valid throwdown, but shut the fuck up about SATC already. You're just stirring up bullshit. Are you Pookie in diguise?

Final word on the subject: I watched SATC when I was an impressionable college girl. I enjoyed it. Then, I stopped. Because it got ludicrous. And I grew up. I only watched the final episodes for their comedic value, and to watch Carrie get slapped by a Russian ballet legend. Get over it. And if you can't, get the fuck out of here.

WHOO HOO! Mike R typed the M word!

CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG.

Ah, almost made Boogs' heartily annoying "lookit me, I'm an enlightened guy and I'm sensitive and know that women ike shallow things but they aren't ALL shallow" broo haha worth it. ALLLLMost.

I would think Buffy would be a better insight to a woman's psyche than Carrie's random bullshit. Every time I heard one of her little "thought bubbles" at the end of an episode I accidentally caught on TiVo before the Soprano's, I'd die just a little.

I would think, should one want to get involved in learning about women through film, a femfilmfest dot org sort of site would be a better place to hang out. You know. Maybe.

FWIW, I'm hoping there's a nice clean spot in the MurderTank™ to hang up my designer bags and the floor is more heel-friendly than the cafeteria here at work where I just took a spectacular spill.

Is anyone else depressed by the fact that it appears Indiana and the Crystal OMFGTHISISSTUPID is going to beat a great move like Iron Man in box office?

greer:

When the bonnet shoving starts, you're exempt (as is Bethy), but everyone else needs to be very afraid. I have my own Murder-Barouche (TM) drawn by a well-matched pair of chestnuts, and a darning needle that can make a marine cry.

Never bring up the Austen unless you want to get Paddy all riled up.

Dawson's Creek makes me cringe now. Did I enjoy the daylights out of it? Oh yeah. I also liked Melrose Place and 90210. None of those shows or SATC can tell you how I think. I am not girly, I hate pink, and I would rather shop for things other than shoes. No, I am character from SATC. Nice try dude, but no. Also sensitive men get really annoying, at least to me. Sack up and grow a pair.

Everybody signs up for an individual cubby on the MurderTank lilianna28. It's pretty much a first-come-first-serve gig, but there are plenty of utility hooks to hang your bag from... As far as the heels go, the MT is outfitted with high-performance rubber compound flooring that is slip, heat, and stain resistant (bloody mary mix is a bitch on the upholstery). You might wanna switch to more sensible shoes if you head toward the back, though - you'd for sure break a heel on the sluice-trap floors. If you step out to the head lobber/pit digger deck, you'll need to put on special rubber boots, 'cause that whole friggin' set-up is cracklin' with electricity...

"The Venture Brothers once again decided to go fucking batshit."

Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I've seen Seasons 1 and 2 and look forward to this one.

But I fucking forgot about the premiere, I'll have to find it online somewhere.

damn HTML tags......one of these days I will get even with you, you just wait

Skittimus:

You forgot to mention the potentially hazardous combination of high heels and consumption of spirits that are over 50% proof. I mean, I realize the Murder Tank isn't subject to OSHA regs or anything, but it's only fair to warn the girl.

My weakness is sketchbooks and art supplies. I cannot walk into an art store and not buy something. I am like a kid in a candy shop in those places...

God yes. Pales financially, though, in comparison to my artbook obsession. $150 for limited edition Range Murata artbook? Cheap! $50 for The Beautiful World artbook with $42 dollar shipping charges direct from Japan. Bend me over, air mail, and have at.

Thank god I have managed to rein in my desire for Copic markers, but that day is coming. Oi.

"The Venture Brothers once again decided to go fucking batshit."

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

I'd say it's a good thing. It jumps right into a "yeah, never mind them over there, OH MY GOD THERE'S SO MUCH CRAZY SHIT YOU DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT IN 'TRIAL OF THE MONARCH' (and also here's what was happening off camera in those other episodes!)". It's a direct pickup from the end of "Cremation Creek" with MDrG. The new stories of the family themselves will start next week.

I think The Darkness must have something to do with what's in the library and.....is the void cracking open? That occurred to me a little while ago. Is the void dark? Is that giving both Rose and Daleks a conduit?

Also, I am getting a big crushy kick out of Alex Kingston being in this episode. BUT...in typical Moffat fashion, she's also a great character, and throwing in some new canon while she's at it.

Thank god I have managed to rein in my desire for Copic markers, but that day is coming.

I have alreasy succombed.....my (also new) sketchbook thanked me.

My bank account did not. In fact, we are still in a fight over that...we fight a lot.

But they are oh so nice :)

any supplies (art, architecture, biology/chemistry) are un-proportionatly expensive, but you can't help it. You just have to have it. You are WAY too happy when you finally get it and run off at once to use it.

I have often wondered if it is comparable to a porn addiction...

Speaking of Sex and the City

(HA!)

Greg Behrendt was once on an episode of Dr. Katz pining away for a four-slice Williams-Sonoma toaster. I believe he's carrying around a picture of it and wants it tattooed on his arm.

Me, I'm hungry for a Kitchen Aid mixer and...a reason to have a Kitchen Aid mixer.

my friend just got one of those mixers at her bridal shower Jay!

I was sitting there thinking if I could fit it in my purse (I could not, those damn things are big!)

If so, Coach has figured it out, man

I have 4 bags myself, each lovingly cared for with Coach cleaner and moisturizer and placed in their very own bags for safekeeping. I need a new one.

Kitchen Aid Stand Mixer? I am going to buy one of those if it is only thing I buy for an entire month of my life. I want one, I need one, and dammit they look cool. You don't need a reason for one, especially if it is the chrome or black or red model. Or maybe the blue. Must. Have. NOW.

I'm sorry, where were we?

lilanna28, I see your Coach outlet and raise you a Create and Barrel Outlet :p

Kittery, Maine is my financial godsend

I also enjoy the J Crew and Banana Republic Outlets (there is a Coach Outlet there too, I have to admit the bags are awfully pretty, just a bit out of my price range. I was eying a wallet though...unfortunatly the Boy did not pick up on the hint around Christmas time)

...I leave for an hour and this whole thread has gone off the rails! From feminism and death by bonnets to Coach bags and Kitchen Aid mixers.

Skittimus, you frighten me for so very many reasons.

That having been said, I would like to sign up for my MT cubby, please. But where will Paddy's Pre-Victorian death bonnets be stored?

I think The Darkness must have something to do with what's in the library and.....is the void cracking open? That occurred to me a little while ago. Is the void dark? Is that giving both Rose and Daleks a conduit?

Jay, I've been trying to figure this out. The Void is dark; it's also known as "The Howling." If the Void is cracking open, then I don't know how they'll stop it, since it closed itself. How has it re-opened? The Daleks were the ones to come through the Void originally, and the Cybermen followed them through. So many fanwanker questions.

Not the solution to ALL problems, just to your problem(s).

Just going from debating to defending myself/my opinion and back again. Not trying to change anyone's mind.

Can I... will I... grrr.. gash... hold on.

removes plastic vacu-seal from cubby, reaches in, strokes the nice coach bag, pretty, pretty, yes, be calm, nice bag. hangs it back up on the MurderTank™ hook. Takes a shot of bourbon from the bar, rethinks the shot and takes the whole damn bottle and returns to computer

Right. Skittimus? Can we engage this bad boy with boog's coordinates via the ip address tracking device? Because ain't NO BODY gonna

1) pretend he can take PaddyDog! to task on English Lit

2) tell my gal Nicole she needs to get LAID (whilst!) WHILST claiming to be all about SaTC for its feminist qualities

3) call Paleolithchick a KID and pretend not to be SMUG

4) tell socalled to "go back and read his posts" (serious sign of douchbaggery)

AND live to post another day. Though we can't turn him into a zombie, that would be WAAAAAY to much to handle, a SaTC watching "girl please" snappin', I'm pretendin' to be all with the Grrrls! Zombie. Can you imagine?

Now you all see why I got so tired of fighting with boogs this morning when I was all by my lonesome. boogs seems to just want to hate us all, and no matter how we argue with him, we're all still nothing more than a bunch of spiteful, smug, ignorant, penis-loving, woman-hating conformists.

And obviously he's right. Anyone who's actually read any of this site beyond the one article they want to argue with can plainly see we all hate thinking for ourselves and would prefer to go out and beat women back down where they belong. Even the women here hate themselves. Obviously - otherwise they'd all be fawning over the movie.

How stupid we all are. Thanks for the tip boogs!

SaTC has no insight to the female psyche. Please stop pretending it does.

Just because something stars women or has a plot that revolves around them, does not mean it represents women - in any capacity! SaTC represents the views of four CHARACTERS, who, regardless of whether they were written by a hand attached to a penis or a vagina, still only represent THOSE CHARACTERS, and not an entire gender, or even a portion of a gender.

Whenever someone suggests that I have ANYTHING in common with the likes of SaTC, save for actually having a vagina, I want to scream. I, straight, married, female, 26, actress, nonprofit fundraiser, anti-hipster, pro-They Might Be Giants, self-identified-feminist, United Church of Christ member, and lover of any drink involving strong bourbon, have more in common with the most sexist, degenerate man-child Seth Rogen could ever conceive that I ever will with Carrie-Fucking-Bradshaw.

And, boogs, as someone who has made acting her profession and life's passion, I can tell you that it IS possible to hate SaTC for BOTH its irritating characters AND it's goddawful excuse for acting.

Mike, we tend to just talk about the show anyway, but it can't hurt to add another voice asking for a room of one's own.

Any piece of trash who insists that Sex and the City is some Rosetta Stone to the female mind is absolutely full of smoking shit. The only way with which this could possibly be said with a straight face is if said female was raised to be an embarrassingly bland & stereotypical thing, willing to sign up for any gender-specific foible that gains them access to a preassembled group of pussy-owning pals.

Anyone with a lick of sense knows that, devoid of socially-impressed traits, boys and girls are pretty much the same. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you'll get along in the rational world.

I agree with the spambot.

Aw, stop taking away the spambot comments! That's smug and pretentious!

dammitjanet: Yep, that was Rose alright. I've had that on my mind since watching the episode myself a few weeks back - because however much I love Doctor Who, Billie Piper scares me. It's that mouth. She looks as though she should be swimming around near an ocean bed, gulping down entire schoals of plankton.

I hate being behind on these here in the States!!!

You don't have to be, janet.

Moo hoo ha ha!

(and again, "Silence In The Library" is a corker, as they say)

(and for extra trivia, the "Doctor's Daughter" is Peter Davison's daughter)

(Did Sci-Fi show the "Time Crash" short?)

PUH-leeze Seb. Get over yourself. Boogs was smug and deliberately provocative in his douchery.

And there isn't much to "debate" about whether SaTC accurately give a "glimpse into the female psyche"- IT DOESN'T. Guess what, babe! THERE IS NO 'FEMALE PSYCHE'! Shocking, I know. "Females" are human beings, different in many ways- our ovaries do not unite us, our periods do not unite us, our tits do not untie us, we do not think the same, eat the same, fuck the same and act the same. You cannot get a "glimpse" of something that doesn't exist by watching a shitty tv show. It's like saying "I watched the Soprano's and now I have a glimpse into the Italian Psyche!"

So listen up, buck-o. I'm not "cool" because I didn't like SaTC and I could give two shits if the people on this blog or any blog think I am (I LIKED HIGHLANDER DAMN IT). I am a female, I am a feminist and the shit boogs was spouting was embarrassing and ignorant, and we chose to address it with snark and MurderTanks™ because that's how some of us roll. I'd rather snark him to death than point out his PoV is pretty fricking sexist and stupid, but hey, this thread's almost dead so I got no beef sayin' it now.

So yeah. Wow. And Gross. And everything.

My reading comprehension levels are just fine - but thanks for the commentary. *rolls eyes* Snide sarcasm still doesn't change the fact that - regarding your approach - you were just as wrong as Boogs was PaleoLithchick and lilianna28.

And since we are on the topic of reading comprehension - the both of you should take the time to re-read my post. What I said was that however wrongheaded he was - Boogs is entitled to his opinion. What I found gross was the manner of how y'all disagreed with him. And if I recall, his snotty responses seem to have crept in after certain persons took it upon themselves to flagrantly insult him - all while disguising it as "passionate rebuttals".

The bottom line is that it was not at all constructive. So you hit the mark but the execution is sloppy. He may have been wrong with what he said - but your argument would have been much stronger if it had not been so...mean-spirited.

Being a female, Pajiba-writin, Highlander-lovin fan doesn't hide the fact that there was some borderline bullying going on. Those "badges of honor" doesn't give you the right to wholesale attack on someone.

So *what* if someone thinks the movie/show gave them insight into the female psyche? Why does what he said bother you so much if he's as "douchey" as you claim? You have no idea what's he's like in his day-to-day, so how do you know if it is or isn't a good thing?

I reiterate that your comments completely read as y totally excoriating the first person who expressed liking the show. So what that, (in your eyes), he's a plebian and not a pajiban? Why the vitriol?

What's really the shame is that it's not that I disagreed at all with what either of you were getting it - but the manner in how you got to that final statement is what spoiled it for me.

I expect more of Pajibans. I come here to escape from the flametastic behavior that pervades other sites. And what I read was not Pajiba-worthy rebuttals. And since you were both quick to point on that you're Pajibans through-and-through - I'm gonna hold you to that claim.

And since I spoke up for Boogs, I'm gonna display my badges to avoid being called a sexist this-or-that: comic-book reading, video-game nerdin, brown-skinned queer humanist with an encyclopedic knowledge of all things Buffy - who also happens to enjoy escaping into fantasy world where fierce women can enjoy a $500 shoe on a writer's salary.

So. If this is now my turn to be attacked - feel free