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I'm shocked that Sorority Row, starring Bruce Willy's hideously deformed freak child and the retarded one from The Hills made more than 50 bucks.

“Number of remotely likable white characters in it? Zero. Seriously, every last one was a stuck-up prude. Just leave us honkies out next time if you can’t have us say anything nice, Mr. P”

Tell me you’re joking Goss?

You know Goss you really got some fucking balls on you to be complaining about how TP portray white people in his movies seeing as since the first movie that ever rolled out of Hollywood and all the way up until the last twenty years Hollywood didn’t give a fuck at all about how it portrayed African Americans. But now you want to bitch and moan about Perry’s portrayal of white people in the face of Hollywood’s shameful history in the way that it portrayed African Americans? Dude I hope your health insurance includes being able to see a mental health professional because you’re fucking delusional.

honkey is so 70's.

i prefer to be called either cracker, chalkie or white devil.

I agree, GP.

And I really hate that the theaters here show Tyler Perry movies for longer periods of time and on more screens than the rest of the films. I had to travel an hour to see 9. Oh, Louisiana.

But that's just your race plus a food.

Hey, knock it off, Kanye! Quit interrupting comment threads under my name!

I have a friend who's half Japanese and half white. We like to call him rice cracker.

Oh, sorry, Vermillion. Took you for a Mike Birbiglia fan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJKzafWEjb0

I'm glad that IB is still doing well.

I always though the term cracker.... (Jesus, how did we get on to this?) .... referred specifically to uneducated Southern folk and was employed predominantly by other whites?

Hey Guess Who's Not Pookie! Eat a shit waffle. Tyler Perry is a perfect example of what is wrong with Hollywood. And spare me the melodramatic, whoa is me, the way black people are treated on film bullshit. You're telling me that "Hollywood" is responsible for a general, reprehensible treatment of black people or any people of color in general? What about the dear Mr. Perry? All of his head wigglin', "Mmmmm-hmmmmm" sassy, fake nail wearing characters? The crazy old black woman? The unfaithful black husband? Save yourself some time, drop the santimony, and try and blow your head out of your ass.

So now you think Perry tricked people into making his movie number #1 at the box office, Vermillion?

I'll answer that and say that's EXACTLY what the fuck he does. Titling a movie 'Madae Goes to Jail" and then the character has about 14 seconds of screen time? PURE TRICKERY. "I Can Do Bad All By Myself" being about the relationship between a nightclub singer and some dude...discovering family values...but the fucking tailer for the movie is nothing more than the Madae character on the telephone? PURE TRICKERY.

And if you want to go one further on what maked Tyler Perry an extra special piece of shit? Try being a union-working make-up artist, set designer, P/A, lighting tech, ....anything. If you want to work? Don't you DARE go barking around the set of a Tyler Perry movie. He would have to contirbute part of his budget to health care for his employees. He would have to provide a certain amount of down-time each day for the crew. He would even have to provide quality food services. (yes...there are even guidelines for that) He is worse than half of Hollywood because his money grabs are intentional and shameless; circumventing all production agreements and selling his work to the lowest bidder, pulling down as MANY credits on his films as he can, even some writing credits on projects where he didn't spend MINUTE FUCKING ONE in front of a computer, paying hourly rates comparable to auto mechanics instead. At least your 'typical' Hollywood producer/director/prod house combo does what they can to keep the movie machines chugging. Everything he does is an afront to workers rights and protecting what has made movies work for 50 years. Fuck you and your misguided view of how innocent he is and how's he's just gettin' his. Try working out there for ANY given period of time and then you can open you suck hole.

And as far as "Hollywood's treatment of XYZ race." Change the fucking record. You show me a competent director and I'll show you someone who will give every character his/her fair share regardless of race. As for treatment/perception of black characters on film, you trying to tell me Tyler Perry is the acme of them? Go see an Ice Cube movie (written by, directed by, produced by, starring...doesn't matter) and count the sterotypes. Watch a Tyler Perry movie and try to tell me he's not raking it in off of the same tired "black humor."

Take your soap box and jam it up your shithole, one splinter at a time.

Coming February 2013 - Tyler Perry's Madea Goes to the Moon.

You've been warned, y'all.

It's fucking Monday. I worked until 3 am just to work again at 7. Had to take my car to the shop this morning to get an estimate for a new hhod, radiator, and condensor because some dickhead doesn't know how to drive stick and rolled his car right back and up and over my hood. Cap it off with someone who deosn't know a fucking thing about making a movie and I am one raging PissBoy.

Oh, and I'm willing to stipulate that, yes, Hollywood treated black people badly for 70-80 years (and Asian people too, right, Mr. Chan? And American Indians too, right, Mr. Tonto? and basically anyone darker than John Wayne, right, Mexicans etc.?), if it means Guess Who? has to get another argument.

So say we all?

I never said racism doesn't happen in Hollywood. Read what I wrote you preachy, whining pathetic piece of shit. Your argument has more holes in it than a Sunset Boulevard bathroom stall wall. You can't bitch about any kind of racism in Hollywood without turning the light on BLATANT pervasion of racial sterotypes in "black" movies. And when I say "black" I mean everything that is geared towards the African American community from a specific marketing and development perspective. If you don't recognize sterotyping as the simplest and most direct form of racism then, frankly, you don't know your asshole from a hole in the ground.

And where the fuck do you get your facts? And what the fuck is your idea of "a few years"? The first unions surrounding Hollywood were offically founded in 1914. The first black members almost immediately to follow. I dunno if your aware of this but things like black face and expressions of "Mammy!" were still the norm then...almost a hundred fucking years ago. So as far as "the black and brown" not walking through their doors until a few years ago...suck a fat dick and know something before you talk about it.

And you SHOULD give a shit about whether or not he uses union labor, when he doesn't use it SPECIFICALLY to avoid having to pay those under his employ...INCLUDING his african american actors. The first step he could take to helping to equalize ANY treatment in Hollywood would be to pay his fucking talent what the industry says they should get. He currently pays about 20% BELOW scale. They would make more, be happier, and, I'm willing to bet, begin to turn out better performances. See, From Dusk Til Dawn. While it was a good movie, it, like EVERY other movie, benefitted from becoming a union job in the middle of production, and in turn, put out better product. Going union gave it more money and more legitamacy. Non union work gets shit upon in Hollywood, and frankly, deserves it. They're there to protect the workers and actors and give them certain rites.

And I could give a giant hooping funt about the quality of Tyler Perry's work. Instead of bitching about his movies sucking...I just make sure I don't give him my dollars. MY issue, dickface, MY issue holds more weight than just complaining about an ignorant man having a terrible sense of comedy or timing, or not knowing thing-one about how to actually develop a character. MY issue with the man is his blatant money grabs, complete and utter lack of respect for his audience by using a glorified, butched up version of Hattie McDaniel (but without half the foresight or concern for African Americans working in Hollywood...see SAG 1943 "Commission for Treatment of Black Actors") to trick them into seeing his movies even though she is always an inconsequential character unless you count the fat black woman who won't hesitate to go upside your head if you cross her, pretending in the final 10 minutes to wax poetic about family values. Family values indeed...

And these "hoops" that Spike Lee had to jump through???? Get the fucking story straight and read an entire story instead of just one perspective. Most of his problems came off the set. The studio was the big problem with money and money only. His biggest problems came from black special interest groups and people like Amiri Baraka because they were afraid his earlier movies were exploitative and he would do Malcolm's story no justice. There were problems with script re-writes (originally written by Arnold Perl) and securing and additional 12 million dollars. (28 of 40 was put up by WB and another prod house) It seems like that money issue is all anybody remembers. 40 million dollars made Malcom X one of the most expensive movies ever. Not for a white director. Or black director. Ever. Fuck you and your racism claims. Oh! And speaking of white directors...Malcolm X was originally going to be directed by a white guy, but as soon as Spike Lee made it public that he thought that was a bad idea...dudeman STEPPED DOWN and GAVE Spike the production.

I'm not even going to bother anymore. You're nothing more than an ignorant, baiting, argumentative, ill-informed, posturing twit, shamelessly posturing with the same tired arguements people have made time and time again before you. You know nothing about any kind of treatment of actors, directors, cast, crew in any kind of sense. And you have no fucking idea what you're talking about most of the time.

rights* fucking spellcheck...

Dayyy-um. Homeboy broke it down so that it will consistently and forevermore be broke. How will Guess Whookie respond? How CAN he respond with PB's balls in his mouth? Let's watch!

Listen PissBoy I won’t be lectured to by some guy that hangs out in bathrooms looking to suck a dick through a glory hole, I mean really, sucking dick is so beneath me. Hey asshole listen very carefully for the hundredth time I’ll say that Perry’s movies leave a lot to be desired. My problem with you is that you want to lay all of Hollywood’s problems at the feet of Perry.

I’m sorry Marra, but seeing as I’m the only one here trying to defend black directors and their right to make shitty movies, once in a while I may perhaps say things that I shouldn’t.

But somehow you telling me to “suck a fat dick” is not at all childish and language like that provides you with footing?

Hey Guessie, I bet you're not a Rhodes Scholar yourself, but I figure that a significant majority of movies don't factor in stereotypes.

Out of simple convenience, I'm going to offer Whiteout. There's a black guy in it, and he offers as many stale readings as every white guy and girl around.

Wow.

Damn, ya'll.

That really was an impassioned and well-stated response to nonsense claims, PissBoy. I feel kinda bad you had to waste it on an idiot. I long gave up deluding myself into thinking he had any sense in his head, and have accepted his Glenn-Beckian levels of nutjob theater. Frankly I just assume that everything he posts is bullshit, and act accourdingly.

I do so hope you will at least copy and paste it in the actual review for the film, so the mouth-breathers who think Whookie has some sort of point will be educated as well. There is still hope for them.

"...but to say that he’s the number one problem in Hollywood is total bullshit."

Who said that? Now you're just being disingenuous.

Oh hello Vermillion, I see you’re still responding to my dog whistle, if only you had the power to just ignore me.

*delurking* Piss Boy, I heart you. *resumes lurking*

Lillie, I heart you more when you just lurked.

I'm not acting like I'm not making childish comments. I'm also not trying to rearrange the wording of my original arguement to make it seem more like I was just trying to say Tyler Perry can make crap movies if he wants instead of pulling the fucking race card like you originally did.

I’m sorry Lillie.

My first think didn't lead me to tell you to eat shit. I told you to eat a shit waffle. Now, this isn't waffle made of shit, but instead a waffle topped with it. See, it was early in the morning. I figured you needed breakfast but didn't have a chance to get to an IHOP.

Look I know I'm new hear, and I don't want to come off as racist (at least not more than anyone else on the board,) but I pretty much stop reading anything as soon as I come across "you should really read what Spike Lee said". That's a big GAME OVER for me.

PissBoy,

Just keep working on your opening comment to me, you’ll clean it up sooner or later.

I just want to top off the dissipated race war by saying that I was in that Mike Birbiglia video! I was there, man! Oh man, you shoulda been there, shit was crazy, dude on stage got all riled up, shredded that bit like nobody's business, meanwhile all us fuckers in the pit passing around the reefer, probably laced with godknowswhat, cuz I got some wicked hallies after.