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Pesky critics, who needs ‘em? Paramount doesn’t seem to, having cleared their opening weekend for G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra with some $56.2 million and an out-of-sight, out-of-mind screening strategy that prevented the same critical lashing that clearly kept crowds away from Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen earlier this summer. Meanwhile, Sony whipped up a respectable $20 million for their Julie & Julia, which managed to draw away all those women who weren’t somehow drawn in by the prospect of Rachel Nichols in boob armor. What a pity that the gleefully moronic carnage that took place in Paris in the former film didn’t happen to infiltrate the latter; just imagine the sight of Marlon Wayans dashing past a cooking school, screaming about how “our goose is cooked!,” while Meryl Streep let out a high-pitched coo of delight.

Or maybe that’s just me. (I’m Will, by the way. Hi.)

G-Force slipped to third place, scrambling to make it past a mere $86 million in the past three weeks at the box office, and Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Artist Formally Known as Prince slipped to fourth, looking to fall just shy of three hundred million bucks domestic. Yeah, yeah, flow my tears. Funny People took the most significant stumble, falling 65 percent to fifth place and yet still besting the Heigl-wielding likes of The Ugly Truth by less than a mil. You heard it here, folks: a terminally ill Adam Sandler beats an uncontrollably orgasmic Rainbow Killer any day.

Opening at seventh (ouch) is David Twohy’s equally sly and frustrating thriller, A Perfect Getaway, with $5.7 million. To compare, the now-ninth-place Orphan opened to double that two weeks ago (note to Twohy: proportional dwarves > Steve Zahn). Stuck in between at number 8 would be Aliens in the Attic with $4 million (not shabby for an unscreened family film admittedly lacking in both dwarves and Zahn). And finally cracking the top ten after weeks of steady expansion is (500) Days of Summer, raking in $3.7 million for the weekend and $12.3 million to date. It’s due for Dustin’s predicted backlash any day now.

In indie news, Cold Souls opened on seven screens to the second highest per-screen average after G.I. Joe (with 4,000+ screens to its name), and Paper Heart took in a twee-tastic $200,000 on 38 screens and is due for wider expansion in the next two weeks, where it’ll theoretically clash with Summer for the hearts, minds and wallets of self-labeled alternative blogger kids all across the Midwest. Why, it’s enough to make Meryl Streep coo.

We’ll have our reviews of Paper Heart, Cold Souls and A Perfect Getaway up tomorrow.

William Goss lives in Orlando, Florida. But don’t hold that against him.


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Comments

Nice to see you on here, Mr. Goss.

Posted by: frothygirl at August 9, 2009 8:09 PM

Oooh, new meat writer! Welcome, Will.

Posted by: lizzieborden at August 9, 2009 8:11 PM

So there really were people who were not drawn in by the prospect of Rachel Nichols in boob armor? It's a funny old world.

Posted by: csb at August 9, 2009 8:20 PM

*Pounding on the cafeteria Table*

NEW MEAT! NEW MEAT! NEW MEAT! NEW MEAT! NEW MEAT!

Aaaaaaaah...Brings you back, doesn't it?

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at August 9, 2009 8:22 PM

csb: For all I know, they paid to see both.

Posted by: William Goss at August 9, 2009 8:40 PM

Definitely thought this was the guy from the CIA at first. He's from Florida too! Go Florida!

It would've been much cooler if you guys had gotten Porter, by the way.

Posted by: SaBrina at August 9, 2009 8:44 PM

It's true. So far as Gosses go, Porter would be the one pounding me into the proverbial cafeteria table.

And that's why he's running the CIA, like the big fat show-off that he is.

Posted by: William Goss at August 9, 2009 8:47 PM

Welcome to the hen house. Most of the roosters are still hungover, sprawled around the murdertank. Watch out for live ammo.

Posted by: Cindy at August 9, 2009 8:54 PM

Boob armor, huh? Boobs should never be covered in armor. Wet t-shirts on the other hand...

I kid, I guess boob armor serves a practical purpose. Boobs needs protection from lasers/bullets/explosions and whatever else was in the movie.

I would also like to point out that I would be much less likely to shoot at woman in a wet t-shirt than a woman in boob armor.

Posted by: Moose at August 9, 2009 9:07 PM

I assume there's an initiation process to get into the Inner Circle. Maybe a test on all the mythology plus some rigorous hazing? I know how these things work if you guys need some tips.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at August 9, 2009 9:08 PM

And that's why he's running the CIA, like the big fat show-off that he is.

Well, that loser did have to resign before getting two years into the job, so if you play your cards right with Dictator Dusty and Co. you might last longer than he did, and who's getting shoved in cafeteria tables THEN, HUH?

Posted by: SaBrina at August 9, 2009 9:21 PM

that's right! aren't we going to play Gay Chicken?

Posted by: gp at August 9, 2009 9:22 PM

Hey gp. Have you been workin' out?
*Locks eyes with gp*

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at August 9, 2009 9:25 PM

why, optimus, you dog.
*sckooches one inch closer*

Posted by: gp at August 9, 2009 9:28 PM

I do love Brian Posehn.
*Moves close enough for you to feel his breath*

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at August 9, 2009 9:31 PM

i went to see kathy griffin at a casino 3 weeks ago.
*puts hand on knee*

Posted by: gp at August 9, 2009 9:36 PM

Boys... BOYS!

Oh, jeez. Someone get the hose.

NO, NOT THAT HOSE!

Posted by: William Goss at August 9, 2009 9:39 PM

*sigh* Pajiba After Dark, how I've missed thee....

Carry on, lads!

Posted by: meaux at August 9, 2009 9:39 PM

*Moves away sharply while giggling like a schoolgirl*
Psh! We're not gay! Tee Hee!

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at August 9, 2009 9:44 PM

Interesting that a new writer has the same effect on the commenters as chumming the water does on sharks.

/watched too much Shark Week
//just kidding, there is no such thing as "too much Shark Week"

Posted by: Genny (actually Rusty now) at August 9, 2009 9:45 PM

look, i wasn't confused until everybody started telling me i was confused.

you know what i think? if i was made in the godtopus' image, and i'm a little bi-curious, then maybe the godtopus is a little bi-curious too.

Posted by: gp at August 9, 2009 9:49 PM

Jesopus is happy.

Posted by: Cindy at August 9, 2009 9:57 PM

(Jesopus is Godtopus's only forgotten transsexual son. On his third birthday, he asked to become a girl after crying when he heard Christopher Cross sing Sailing.)

Posted by: Cindy at August 9, 2009 10:03 PM

I want to see these two play gay chicken with Jeremy. We'll see who's so brave then.

Posted by: SaBrina at August 9, 2009 10:04 PM

That's understandable, everyone cries when they hear "Sailing". This is in fact why I come to Pajiba, for discussions of boob armor, the CIA and Christopher Cross songs.

Posted by: Mrcreosote at August 9, 2009 10:08 PM

So I just read Middlesex and it says that 1 out of every 1000 people are hermaphrodites. So I have been seeing them everywhere these days.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at August 9, 2009 10:11 PM

Such is the case with Jesopus, who retains his original parts. It helps him identify with everyone.

Posted by: Cindy at August 9, 2009 10:18 PM

i've done things with the other boys that would break feist in half.
believe dat!

Posted by: gp at August 9, 2009 10:18 PM

Oooh. That's strangely arousing.

Posted by: SaBrina at August 9, 2009 10:24 PM

Well, good luck with that, fresh meat young man.

So, do we think Cold Souls is going to open wider at some point? Because I really need to see it.

Sorry for the interruption. Back to the Gaying Up of Optimus Rhyme, please. Just let me get my video camera set up, here...

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at August 9, 2009 10:34 PM

In honor of William's arrival, I offer up a clip from Tod Browning's "Freaks":

We accept him, one of us!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBXyB7niEc0

Posted by: Drew Morton at August 9, 2009 10:50 PM

Aww Jeez Drew. Talk about a turn-off.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at August 9, 2009 10:57 PM

One of us! One of us!
Gooble-gobble, gooble-gobble!

Posted by: Jim Doggie at August 9, 2009 11:01 PM

"GOSS! You hateful, misogynistic, racist bastard! I hate you, we ALL hate you, you mindless fucktard. I hope that your fucking penis turns green and then black and falls into your big fat bowl of cock soup! I am SO jealous!"

BSlim hasn't chimed in so I posted on his behalf.

Posted by: Spender at August 9, 2009 11:36 PM

As foe me, I kinda like the new guy.

Posted by: Spender at August 9, 2009 11:38 PM

errrrrmmmm... Fucking Typos.

Posted by: Spender at August 9, 2009 11:39 PM

Jesopus is happy.

(Jesopus is Godtopus's only forgotten transsexual son. On his third birthday, he asked to become a girl after crying when he heard Christopher Cross sing Sailing.)

Posted by: Cindy at August 9, 2009 10:03 PM

I myself cry every time I hear Christopher Cross, tears of rage. The fucker beat Pink Floyd's The Wall for the Grammy Awards Album of the Year despite being the most enor- mously mediocre musician of his era. He personally taught Coldplay every- thing they know.

Christopher Cross is such a one hit wonder, Vanilla Ice makes jokes about him when he's not getting beaten up by Zombie Tupac. Christopher Cross is such a hack, Paul Haggis talks with him every Sunday to help him write his next script. Christopher Cross's Grammy is so undeserving, Milli Vanilli's Grammy became sentient, and goes to Christopher Cross's house every Sunday while Cross is busy with Haggis, and takes a shit on his bed.

Fuck you, Christopher Cross. I hope you spend the rest of your life covering Creed songs while locked in an underground vault with Scott Strapp for what you did. It's people like you that are the reason we can't have nice things in our society.

Posted by: George at August 10, 2009 12:14 AM

Gabba-gabba-HEY!

The good news is, "Moon" is playing here.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at August 10, 2009 12:21 AM

George, how do you even know who Christopher Cross is? For that matter, how do you know who Pink Floyd is?
Ok, I understand the Pink Floyd accusation is a bit much but seriously, I have never heard a Christopher Cross song and I assumed people were calling the seminal rap group Kriss Kross by their Christian name.
Here I was thinking that rap group with backwards clothes won a Grammy.
JUMP JUMP JUMP
(Don't judge me, I'm still tender from my first internet homo-erotic experience.)

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at August 10, 2009 12:26 AM

if it's not spit, it's not love.

Posted by: gp at August 10, 2009 12:36 AM

Optimus, it was an old Cracked article. I listened to Christopher Cross afterward, and I felt like putting my foot through the computer. I'm a huge music dork right now, and know way more about music than a normal person should.

Posted by: George at August 10, 2009 12:40 AM

George, that article made me really really pissed.

I just listened to "Winchester Cathedral" and just ... fuck. Fuck it all.

Posted by: Mick J at August 10, 2009 1:54 AM

I'm not sure how I managed to miss the Gay Chicken thing, but I would like to see it in person. Please.
Or AvB can add some squishy sound effects to her video?
Make it happen!

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at August 10, 2009 2:37 AM

Also, fuck all yall because I have to be up early but I know as soon as I try to sleep all I'm gonna hear in my head is that fucking song.

Yeah, here it comes.

Come sail away with MEEEEEEEEE.

FUCK fuck fuck.

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at August 10, 2009 2:38 AM

Imagine being a radio DJ back then and having to pretend that you actually LIKED Christopher Cross. "Saiiiiiiiiiiiiling"....
Yarp! (That's the sound I make when I barf/puke/vomit whatever you call it.)
That Goss guy?
He's okay.

Posted by: Spender at August 10, 2009 3:03 AM

what are you talking about?

Posted by: linda at August 10, 2009 3:24 AM

Do you want to marry a good looking with a hot figure ,please come to our site; tallloving. c o m

Posted by: lily at August 10, 2009 3:36 AM

Ergonomics. Economics. Freakonomics. Theloveo'godonomics. We aren't talking about anything, Linda. We're talking AROUND the fact that BSlim is a misogynistic homophobe who wants nothing more than to poke his tiny pee-pee into Guess-Whookie's manly portal. That's how we roll in this den of iniquity. Sure, we all pretend to be sane but in truth we will rip yer head off and crap down yer neck for a shiny quarter.

Posted by: Spender at August 10, 2009 3:37 AM

Do you want to marry a good looking with a hot figure ,please come to our site; tallloving. c o m

Posted by: lily at August 10, 2009 3:36 AM

A Good Looking with a HOT figure? I am so in...

Posted by: Spender at August 10, 2009 3:39 AM

mmmm miller time

Posted by: arrrghzi at August 10, 2009 4:12 AM

I like the new guy. But then, I also like Coldplay (sorry George) so make of that what you will.

Posted by: Shay at August 10, 2009 6:52 AM

Oh come on people, it is just too early in the day fro this kinda stuff. Jeez...

Posted by: Vermillion at August 10, 2009 7:45 AM

George, now you can understand Jesopus's pain and shame. He suffers for all Pajibans.

Posted by: Cindy at August 10, 2009 8:42 AM

Well, it's good to see you've all made a good first impression for Will. New writer, new PajibaGod. Welcome Will. Welcome Jesopus. I doubt their simultaneous arrival is mere coincidence.

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at August 10, 2009 8:56 AM

So what's the proper pronunciation of Jesopus?

Is it straight American Jeezopuss?
German Yay-zo-puss?
French jezopue?
Spanish Hay-so-pooss?

Personally I like my metaphors and accents as muddled as possible, since, you know, he represents us all, so I'm going for the Franco-German mashup Yay-so-pue.

Posted by: ahamos at August 10, 2009 9:06 AM

Also, I don't know if I shared this in the "pickup lines that shouldn't have worked" thread, but a game of Chicken is how Amanda and I met. She won.

Posted by: ahamos at August 10, 2009 9:08 AM

I am sort of confused on how a new writer can "pop-up," and from all places Orlando, Florida. I thought the only people there were tourists and those with college jobs or no skills. What are the odds that Mr. Goss caught Dustin doing things to Mickey Mouse that would have landed him in jail for many years. Just saying.

Posted by: richmac at August 10, 2009 9:08 AM

Oh, Dustin. Surely you didn't think... Well, has Young William ever visited the site, at least? Did the poor bastard have any idea what he was getting into? I think so, he did refer to Rainbow Killer as such... And, look, he did a fine job, and there are some nice comments. He'll be just fine.

P.S. Slightly off-topic: I have "The Hustle" stuck in my head. Doot doot doot doot doot doot-doot doot doot, doot doot doot doot doot doot-doot doot doot...

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at August 10, 2009 9:10 AM

Welcome welcome William!

Posted by: Julie at August 10, 2009 9:39 AM

Hey, I live in Orlando, Florida. When can I start stalking you?

Posted by: BWeaves at August 10, 2009 9:42 AM

just imagine the sight of Marlon Wayans dashing past a cooking school, screaming about how “our goose is cooked!,” while Meryl Streep let out a high-pitched coo of delight.

That movie I think I'd go see.

Posted by: Jay at August 10, 2009 9:50 AM

I love the fact that as of today Heigl’s “The Ugly Truth” has made almost 70 million dollars and “Funny People” has made 40 million, and “500 days of Summer” hasn’t even sniffed 13 million dollars. I love it because all of you loathe Heigl and all of you were sucking the teats of “500 Days of Summer.” To put a cherry on top G.I. Joe, yes, fucking G.I. Joe made over 50 million dollars over the weekend, how do like them apples?

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 9:51 AM

Say what you like about the man, nobody finds more glee in his hate than Guess Who.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at August 10, 2009 10:27 AM

Hey! I live in Orlando, too!

BWeaves, let the stalking of the new guy commence!

Posted by: Trouble at August 10, 2009 10:51 AM

Excuse me Tracer but I don’t find glee in my hate, I don’t have hate. I find glee in pointing out the hypocrisy that permeates throughout pajiba. I’m not all that surprised that you would make that statement, I’m sure someone sent you orders to attack me. I demand to know who ordered the code red.

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 10:56 AM

.... And now it's mutated into "Tom's Diner".

Doot doot do do doot doot do do doot doot do do doot do do do...

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at August 10, 2009 11:10 AM

I'm in Miami and frankly, that's too long of a commute for stalking, so I expect the Orlando contingent of Pajiba to keep me up to date with regular reports on the stalking.

Posted by: Genny (actually Rusty now) at August 10, 2009 11:11 AM

Doot doot do do doot doot do do doot doot do do doot do do do...

Is that the Barnum and Bailey theme song?

That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college!

Posted by: branded at August 10, 2009 11:32 AM

Not worth the drive for stalking? I'm disappointed, Genny. You ARE getting rusty...

Posted by: William Goss at August 10, 2009 11:33 AM

Guess Who!

I'm confused as to how a negative review for a movie that goes on to do well and a positive review for a movie that doesn't make as much money equates to hypocrisy. Could you elaborate?

Posted by: pissant at August 10, 2009 11:37 AM

dammit, AvB, now so do I. I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY.

Posted by: figgy at August 10, 2009 12:34 PM

Don't take it personally, William, if I actually had a car it might be a different story. However as charming and wonderful as I'm sure you are, I'm not biking from Miami to Orlando for stalking. My apologies.

Posted by: Genny (actually Rusty now) at August 10, 2009 12:45 PM

I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY.

Muah ah ha ahahhahahahahahh!

I am ecstatic. Misery loves company, don'tcha know.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at August 10, 2009 12:51 PM

I lived in Miami for over forty years and I say this with all sincerity, fuck Orlando!

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 1:03 PM

Pissant the review is irrelevant, it is the constant attacks on certain stars and directors that fuels my outrage. When you have a group of people that sucks on the teats of Robert Downey Jr.’s piece of shit dope head convicted felon ass, then shit on Tyler Perry just because he makes a movie that some don’t like, that is the hypocrisy I speak about.

This is the same website that voted in a recent poll that had “Next American Model” or “Top Model” or whatever the fuck the name of the show is as it’s number one rated show, that tells me everything that I need to know about the people that cast negative aspersions on Tyler Perry. Ask Tyler Perry has he ever been hooked on dope? Ask him has he ever done time in the big house for dope using?

Now sit back and watch the jock sniffers rush to defend that piece of shit dope head Downey Jr. So to answer your question Pissant, I don’t give a fuck about a review. I don’t hate Downey Jr., I loved Iron Man and I will be in line to see Iron Man 2, but what I don’t like is hypocrisy.

Every person on this goddamn website was giving head to “500 Days of Summer,” that movie barely made enough money to cover the light bill of all the theaters that premiered the movie. Fucking “Pootie Tang” had a bigger opening.

The whole world is off its rocker Pissant, you got these fucking know nothings showing up at these town hall meetings trying to fuck things up. You got Sarah Palin walking around talking about a fucking “Death Panel.” And you had millions of motherfuckers to vote for her, that baby seal killing cunt.

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 1:07 PM

Every person on this goddamn website was giving head to “500 Days of Summer,” that movie barely made enough money to cover the light bill of all the theaters that premiered the movie.

How does that equate to hypocrisy? I'm confused as to why you keep talking about how much money different movies are making.

Posted by: pissant at August 10, 2009 1:42 PM

There's a great big Internet out there, Guess Who! Don't let us hold hypocrites you back.

Posted by: ahamos at August 10, 2009 1:53 PM

Oh, fie. HYPOCRITES HOLD. Dammit.

Posted by: ahamos at August 10, 2009 1:54 PM

Pissant I speak of money as a metaphor for hypocrisy. There is a reason “500 Days of Summer” didn’t make shit at the box office but “The Ugly Truth” is approaching 70 million dollars. Deep down inside people are one way but their actions show who they really are. I remember the review of 500 DoS and everybody around here was sucking its dick, but the box office receipts told the real story, the masses didn’t swallow they spit it out.

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 2:10 PM

I’m sorry ahamos I was trying to find out who you were before I answered your question, you don’t appear anywhere in the pajiba dictionary or on any of the hundreds of top comments list, I'm very puzzled by this. Yes the internet is a very big place and you should go and find out just how big it is.

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 2:20 PM

Guess Who!

I think your measuring stick for "box office success" is off quite a bit.

The main reason "500 Days" didn't make as much as "The Ugly Truth" did is because "500 Days" is playing in 817 theaters (3.7 mill this week, 12.3 million cume) after four weeks of release while "The Ugly Truth" opened in nearly 3000 theaters ($7 mill this week, $69 mill cume). How can a film possibly equal the box office gross of another when its only playing in a third of the theaters? It's mathematically impossible.

The telling figure here is that "500 Days" had a $30,000 per screen average in its first weeks of release while "Ugly" truth had a $10,000 per screen average.

I haven't seen either film, I'm just looking at it statistically. Also, "success" is very subjective. "The Ugly Truth" had a production budget of almost $40 million dollars, the average marketing budget is normally half the production budget, which would mean that "The Ugly Truth" isn't yet breaking even. I would assume the budget for "500 Days" was roughly $4 million (and that's on the high-side) with a similar marketing budget:

So, here's the end numbers:

Ugly Truth (40 production+40 marketing)=$80 million budget. Subtracting the domestic revenues, $69 million, would mean that it's still $11 million in the red (not counting international of course or ancillary, where the real money is made).

500 Days: ($4 production+$4 marketing)=$8 million. Subtracting domestic box office, that's a $4 million profit. Not bad considering the small investment!

Posted by: Drew Morton at August 10, 2009 2:28 PM

Whoops, thought I messed up that Ugly Truth number a bit:

Ugly Truth: (40$ production+$20 marketing)=$60 budget. With $69 million in revenue, that would mean it's made a $9 million dollar profit.

Posted by: Drew Morton at August 10, 2009 2:34 PM

God damn, Drew, how long are you gonna respond to comments? You're gonna burn out, man.

Pissant I speak of money as a metaphor for hypocrisy.

I think I could only agree with what you're saying if everyone in the US(we'll keep it domestic) was active on Pajiba. In that case, yes, this would be country full of hypocrites. Having absolutely nothing to back this up, I'd wager that more people saw The Ugly Truth than have even heard of Pajiba. Simply put, I don't the think "the masses" come here.

I also can't agree with you the 500 Days of Summer is failing. It seems as though it is doing great where it is playing, and it hasn't been released in all the venues it will be released in, yet.

Posted by: pissant at August 10, 2009 2:43 PM

Aw, it's William's first day and already he's got a flame war! Of sorts.

See that, Dustin? Fitting right in!

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at August 10, 2009 2:49 PM

Yeah Pissant that’s the problem, all the venues haven’t been used yet. But when they are, oh baby look out!

Drew baby, listen, in today’s society most things are in the red with dope being one of the few exceptions.

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 2:57 PM

"Drew baby, listen, in today’s society most things are in the red with dope being one of the few exceptions."

...and the entertainment industry, specifically film and video games (which are just beginning to feel the recession).

Posted by: Drew Morton at August 10, 2009 2:59 PM

Drew, you were the one to trot out your figures to make it seem as though “The Ugly Truth” barely made a dime. My response was that few movies make money when you factor in overhead. Any way you slice it 70 million is more than 40 million when you start at zero.

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 3:13 PM

My point was that "Ugly Truth" had barely made a dime in theatrical, which was how this whole topic came up. As I noted above, the bulk of profits come from overseas and ancillary sales (DVDs, television rights, rentals) in nearly any film's case.

Posted by: Drew Morton at August 10, 2009 3:21 PM

Ok Drew I’ll play your game but answer me this, if The Ugly Truth II and 500 DoS II were made on the same budget and shown on the same number of screens which one do you think would make the most money?

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 3:33 PM

No problem, Guess Who! My grandeur is transcendent; lists dare not include me.

Posted by: ahamos at August 10, 2009 3:47 PM

Guess Who!

I'm still wondering how people who run/visit this site are hypocrites because millions of people who don't necessarily visit this site saw The Ugly Truth.

Posted by: pissant at August 10, 2009 3:55 PM

Delusions of grandeur is more like it ahamos, but I’ll give you an A+ for your witty but somewhat long waited retort.

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 3:55 PM

Guess Who,

You're hypothetical situation is beside the point. The reason the budget on "500" was so low was because of the actors used, which probably is the main reason why it probably hasn't found wider distribution. I'm not ragging on the film for this, just pointing out that this is one of the reasons people are going to see it. It's a quirky, low-budget indie film.

In any case, "500" is a indie film that has been both successful with critics and at the box office. It might not be "Juno" or "Garden State," but it's not a failure by any stretch of the imagination. You're trying to compare apples to oranges.

Posted by: Drew Morton at August 10, 2009 3:57 PM

Pissant the same people that visit this site slam Heigl, but yet made "Top Model" the number one show of this site as voted by the members of this site. In my opinion that screams hypocrisy.

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 4:01 PM

Your first post:
I love the fact that as of today Heigl’s “The Ugly Truth” has made almost 70 million dollars and “Funny People” has made 40 million, and “500 days of Summer” hasn’t even sniffed 13 million dollars. I love it because all of you loathe Heigl and all of you were sucking the teats of “500 Days of Summer.” To put a cherry on top G.I. Joe, yes, fucking G.I. Joe made over 50 million dollars over the weekend, how do like them apples?

Part of your next post:
I find glee in pointing out the hypocrisy that permeates throughout pajiba.

I guess I thought the second post explained somewhat your remarks in the first post. That's the assumption I've been working off of here.

But then you say this:
Every person on this goddamn website was giving head to “500 Days of Summer,” that movie barely made enough money to cover the light bill of all the theaters that premiered the movie.

It just seems to me that you're calling people hypocrites because there movie didn't make as much money an another one. If that isn't what you're saying, than I don't understand the "light bill" comment.

Posted by: pissant at August 10, 2009 4:15 PM

Yeah, sorry. I tend to spend portions of my otherwise wasted days doing things like working, socializing off-line, and basking in my own glow. It's really quite nice.

Plus for some reason every time I hit "Post Comment", it takes like 45 seconds. That is a bag of suck and tends to drive me away.

But I am truly perplexed by your notions of hypocrisy. Are you arguing that Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus is a better movie than Billy Elliott if it sells more DVD's?

Isn't that like saying Michael Jackson was a better person than Mother Theresa because more people watched his funeral?

Posted by: ahamos at August 10, 2009 4:16 PM

i second the comment button taking UP TO A MINUTE to load.

and i respond that MSvsGO WAS a better movie than billy elliot.
because you're all so damn argumentative.

HMMPH!

Posted by: gp at August 10, 2009 4:52 PM

Ahamos, I’m not saying that Michael Jackson was a better person than Mother Theresa. What I’m saying is that Michael Jackson wasn’t any less of a person than Mother Theresa.

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 5:36 PM

Pissant my comments stems from Mr. Goss and his snide comment “ Funny People took the most significant stumble, falling 65 percent to fifth place and yet still besting the Heigl-wielding likes of “The Ugly Truth” by less than a mil. You heard it here, folks: a terminally ill Adam Sandler beats an uncontrollably orgasmic Rainbow Killer any day.”

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 5:41 PM

Hell no Drew, please don’t play the " budget on 500 DoS was so low was because of the actors used card." Not after everyone here had Zooey Deschanel on every goddamn hottest and sexiest and cutest list. The bottom line is that 500 DoS didn’t do shit at the box office because people didn’t want to see it. Now you're sucking on that Indie film cock, lets see if those distribution companies feel the same way you do. By this time next week 500 DoS will be part of a midnight double feature.

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 6:03 PM

Well the fact that I'm reading about the studios' decision to keep G.I. Blows from the press in order to hide its suckiness on several websites means that their plan didn't work.

I wasn't planning on seeing it anyway as it seems as stupid as Transformers.

Posted by: John W at August 10, 2009 6:34 PM

I thought nobody here on Pajiba wanted to see 500 Days of Summer because Dustin wouldn't shut up about it. Which kinda disproves the theory that folks were "sucking on that Indie film cock".

And still, even if every single Pajiba reader went and saw the film, it would take a shitload of trips for it to match the earnings of a movie with a wider release. The fact that a limited showing should count has been explained before.

Instead of apples and oranges, it is more like comparing a rifle to a shotgun: a movie like The Ugly Truth will hit more people, but the effect becomes more shallow and ineffective the further along the movie goes. While a rifle shot like 500 DoS, while not having the widespread effect, will manage to hit its target audience and last longer for it.

Then again, I am making a rational responce to Guess Who!, which is about as much of a waste as you can get, really.

Posted by: Vermillion at August 10, 2009 7:09 PM

Hell no Drew, please don’t play the " budget on 500 DoS was so low was because of the actors used card." Not after everyone here had Zooey Deschanel on every goddamn hottest and sexiest and cutest list. The bottom line is that 500 DoS didn’t do shit at the box office because people didn’t want to see it. Now you're sucking on that Indie film cock, lets see if those distribution companies feel the same way you do. By this time next week 500 DoS will be part of a midnight double feature.

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 6:03 PM

Did you read a word of my box office figure response? It did "do shit" at the box office and people did want to see it (how else would you explain the large per screen profit?). Also, for the record and not that it really matters, I'm not a huge fan of Zooey and I have yet to see the film. Numerically, your statement is illogical.

Posted by: Drew Morton at August 10, 2009 7:24 PM

Drew, I did read your box office response. There is a reason why “500 DoS” is only playing in 817 theaters. And the reason is because the companies that make a living trying to predict how wide to cast their net to make money thought that only 817 theaters would be sufficient enough to do the job , conversely the same people thought that 3000 theaters would be able to hold the “The Ugly Truth” crowd, it is simple as that my friend.

Oh hello V, I haven’t seen you up in this piece much lately. How’s the search for stardom going? I hear TP is looking for some extras for his next movie.

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 9:07 PM

I'd go into the specifics of platform release, but I don't think it would do any good...

Posted by: Drew Morton at August 10, 2009 9:12 PM

Thank you Drew you’ve just given me a new way to judge a movie. You are correct, I never thought of factoring in how many movie theaters a film is shown to truly gauge its overall success. Take for instants “Funny People,” for its opening weekend it grossed over 22 million dollars and was shown in 3,007 theaters with an average take of $7,535 dollars per theater, now take for instants “Tyler Perry’s Madea Goes to Jail,” for its weekend opening it grossed over 41 million dollars and was shown in only 2,032 theaters with an average take of $20, 192 dollars per theater. So using your logic Tyler Perry blew “Funny People” out the water by making almost 20 million dollars more after being shown in almost one thousand less theaters. Is that what you're talking about Drew?

Posted by: Guess Who! at August 10, 2009 9:36 PM

"Madea" was a success because the overhead (marketing and the costs to make and ship duplicate prints) was kept low, which normally parallels the budget of the film, which was roughly $20 million for Perry's previous film. So, you have a film that cost the studio approximately $30 million, meaning that it made a profit of $10 million dollars.

"Funny People" is a disaster. Every analyst and industry insider has commented on this and how bad of a summer Universal has had (Public Enemies bombed as well). The production budget for "FP" was $75 million alone. The picture hasn't even grossed $50 so far... So yes, "Madea" did blow "Funny People" out of the water.

The per screen average is not to be equated with a picture's success, it's a gauge of a film's popularity which, on a week to week basis, normally determines if the exhibitor produces and rents more prints.

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Posted by: William Goss at August 10, 2009 10:56 PM

Drew, don't bother with arguing with him. You cannot reason with him. And he absolutely will not stop until the very last person paying attention to his nonsense is dead.

There is no there there.

Posted by: Vermillion at August 10, 2009 11:00 PM