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3:10 to Yuma / Angel and the Badman: The Boozehound Cinephile / Ted Boynton

Boozehound Cinephile | February 15, 2008 | Comments (59)


Pop culture item consumed: A double feature of (1) the 2007 re-make of 3:10 to Yuma, starring two of my favorite actors, Russell “I’m Such a Dickhead” Crowe and Christian Bale, not to mention Alan Tudyk (!) as ol’ Doc Potter; and (2) my all-time favorite Western, Angel and the Badman, starring John Wayne as … um, John Wayne, and Gail Russell as The Hot Quaker (yowza!).

Beverage consumed: Old Potrero Rye Whiskey and Labatt’s Blue. Old Potrero is a recent noble effort to re-claim a nearly-lost art - no one really drinks much rye whiskey anymore, as its bitterness makes single malt scotch taste like something out of a Werther’s commercial. When drinking rye whiskey, you drink it neat. When you drink neat rye whiskey, you keep a fire extinguisher and Jaws of Life handy. Also, have a sweet-tasting gold lager nearby to chase it. Not kidding, folks, rye whiskey is serious fucking fun for serious fucking drinkers; if you fancy yourself a whiskey aficionado, you need to get in on the rye.

Summary of action: Mrs. Socalled shares my ludicrous vocational choice, which means she sometimes has to work weekends. This is when I catch up on the various cultural trinkets that make her eyes roll back in her head - “So the Summer Glau person is a Terminator? That’s just wonderful, Nerdboy. [/snickers] Gimlet! Fetch!” - and Westerns are right up there. On this particular Saturday, I decided to watch two Westerns while drinking what cowboys drank, straight rye whiskey with no ice. Because I’m not quite prepared to just lay down and die, I also had some ice cold beer close by. Labatt’s Blue is ideal for this undertaking: light (without being all lite-beery), smooth, almost sweet, and very, very forgiving of demanding, inconsiderate sexual partners - in this case the rye. You can also drink a coffin-full of Labatt’s without getting too hammered, which is critical in a chaser. The last time I used Guinness as a chaser, I woke up in Tahiti with two transvestites and a half-melted American Express card with only part of my name still legible - the part that allowed them to track me down. (Transvestites can’t really get pregnant, can they? Fucking gold diggers.)

I decided to go with 3:10 to Yuma first, since (a) I’m far more familiar with Angel and can basically recite it in my sleep and (b) I expected that I might have to do that. In honor of the first film, I started watching at 3:10 p.m. At 3:20 p.m., I hucked the remote at the television because of all the gaddam previews. Eventually, as Dan Evans’ barn burned, during the night, when he should have been just nailing Gretchen Mol, I took my first drink of the day: a neat shot of rye whiskey, with a juice glass of Labatt’s behind. Wowwwwwww, cough-cough, hurts so good. God bless you, Old Potrero of San Francisco. The rye is simply on another planet, but the Labatt’s was my best decision of the day so far.

I hadn’t had rye in a long time, and how can I put this? Drinking rye whiskey, even good rye, is like that riot girrrrl in college who frightened you from afar, turned out to be supercool at some party, outdrank you over the course of several hours, then roped and throwed and branded you like a three-legged calf back in your dorm room. (I still have a vestigial hickey and a slight limp from my riot girrrlll.) Unlike tequila, where the girl is a stripper who calls you “daddy” the whole time, rye-girl wants to remain acquainted. She might want to strip the skin off your trouser trout again in a couple of months; hell, she might want to take a shot at your dad, and you might want to let her. She’s really quite marvelous … just a bit frightening.

What about those films? Well, I have a good recollection of both, as I paced myself through the first one, while the second one is imprinted on my DNA. 3:10 to Yuma is a beautifully shot film; it’s clear that James Mangold loves movies, especially Westerns, and took pains to make it feel like you were riding through a dry canyon with Russell Crowe in the 1870s. Christian Bale was amazing, greasy-haired and gaunt, a desperate rancher coasting on his last penny. In fact, it was almost distracting how well he played the role - I kept thinking to myself, Jesus, Christian Bale is actually oozing desperation, epitomizing, distilling, capturing, selling, and being desperation. This is generally a fantastic film, though the last twenty minutes were a bit of a let-down for me. The Russell Crowe character so departed from the land of reality that no suspension of disbelief short of braining myself with a Colt revolver would suffice. It crippled the script and severely limited the film’s ultimate punch, proving like so many films and television shows before it that it’s incredibly difficult to come up with a great ending for a great work of cinema.

Or, maybe it just seemed illogical to me after six shots of rye and six Labatt’s chasers (2-and-one-half bottles of beer), at which point I could no longer feel my face. 3:10 to Yuma is a full two hours, and I was ostensibly limiting myself to no more than three shots and three chasers per hour, but I lost count somewhere around the time Luke Wilson (Luke fucking Wilson!) showed up as a yellow-toothed prospector. Yikes. There are numerous moments in this film that will feel a little fucked up if you’re a little fucked up - Claire’s boyfriend from “Six Feet Under” (the bi- one, not the toesucker) roasts a deputy alive in a stagecoach, so that’s fucked up. Alan Tudyk brains a guy with a shovel, only to get cruelly taken from us yet again, which is super-fucked-up and cruel to boot; that was a misty-eyed, hard-swallow moment, as I relived a certain sequence from Serenity. Bwuh.

Okay, I’m a leaf on the wind. After a pause to drink a quart of water and replenish my supply of Labatt’s, I moved on to Angel and the Badman. I assume 90% of the whippersnappers ‘round these parts have not seen this film. John Wayne, in black-and-white, Red River-era glory, plays Quirt Evans, a young gunslinger tiptoeing along the line of law and order. Quirt steals from robbers to support his drinking and whoring but begins to change his ways after running across a Quaker family that cares for him after he’s wounded in a confrontation with some other outlaws. Gail Russell plays the Quaker farmer’s daughter who nurses Quirt back to health and teaches him about gentle devotion, quiet humility, and Jesus through her own love and shining selflessness. Man, do I want to make the monkey sex with Quaker-McHottiepants. Anyway, John Wayne predictably has to decide between the exciting but short life of an outlaw and the more pastoral prospect of a farmer’s life, which may be more boring but will ensure that he can give Gail Russell the proper hosing down she so desperately needs every night.

It’s hard to describe how breathtaking Gail Russell is in this role - the black and white only makes her more supernaturally beautiful, along the lines of a young Elizabeth Taylor, but with Donna Reed’s rack. It may have been the rye, but at one point, I’m pretty sure Gail Russell broke the fourth wall, looked at me, and said, “Ted, you’re only hurting yourself. Put down that rye, come be a farmer, and we’ll have, like, fifty Quaker kids from all of our Jesus-loving monkey sex.” Could have been the rye talking.

How well the pairing held up: I can’t compliment Old Potrero enough on the quality of this rye, and if you can tolerate whiskey, there’s no other way to watch a Western. Whiskey, beer, and Westerns; the only way this Saturday night could have been any better is if I weren’t completely and utterly obliterated by 7:00 p.m. when the missus rolled in from work, sober as a judge. “Where’s my dinner?” Honey, I’m pretty sure that posse ate it, but at least they cleaned up after their horses.

Tastes like: Three parts dusty boot leather, three parts Christian Bale’s somber introspection, two parts Russell Crowe’s balled fists, and two parts Ben Foster’s non-hammy malevolence. Delicious.

Overall rating: 12 out of 13 stars, including eight marshal’s badges.


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Comments

I can't see myself handling rye anytime soon, but I do know that what you want to do to Gail Russell is pretty much what I want to do to Christian Bale.

Posted by: Kolby at February 15, 2008 10:02 AM

7pm is okay if you made it through the movie. Do you remember the ending or just the credits and last song?

Deadwood always made me want to drink too.

I can't stomach (I can't liver?) straight whiskey but I do, on occasion, inhale it.

Question: Why do neat whiskey/scotch/bourbon drinkers also tend to be close-talkers? How's your depth perception, Ted?

Posted by: Amanda47 at February 15, 2008 10:05 AM

Upon second reading- I should say did you make it through the second movie? I can't watch John Wayne movies so I understand the Rye facincation. (A watcher in the Rye? har har)

Posted by: Amanda47 at February 15, 2008 10:09 AM

fascination

I hit Post rather than Preview. Sorry folks.

Posted by: Amanda47 at February 15, 2008 10:10 AM

Friend of mine from Nebraska introduced me to Rye, and I confess, we are well-suited to each other. I'm an Old Overholt man, myself.

Posted by: TK at February 15, 2008 10:15 AM

I'll stick with my barleywine, but I'll drink at a movie anytime with you, Ted.

You just sound like a shitload of fun. :)

Posted by: boo at February 15, 2008 10:17 AM

I do have to say I prefer the slight bourbon sweetness over the bitterness of the rye, but bravo sir. Last time I had a rye whiskey (rot gut something or other at a local VFW carnival thing) I had Dos Equis as the chaser, and it actually made it quite pleasant. Throw on top of that that I finally saw 3:10 to Yuma last weekend and this sounds like a good experience. Bravo.

Posted by: PissBoy at February 15, 2008 10:21 AM

"...at which point I could no longer feel my face."

For me, it's all gone south when I can no longer feel my teeth. And then I start rapping on my front two and sharing this tidbit with everyone who'll listen.

Had I been in a seriously drinky state during my viewing of "3:10 to Yuma", there would have been a lot of "Yee-Haw"-ing during the shootout scenes.

While the Russell Crowe character (God knows I loves me some Russell Crowe.) did veer into the implausible realm, I think within the context of the Western the villain needs to be over-the-top. It seems to be part of the Wild West myth, that the frontier attracted the truly lawless and ruthless.

Posted by: Alabamapink at February 15, 2008 10:28 AM

"I can't stomach (I can't liver?)"

Thank you, Amanda...I am so using I can't liver in reference to alcohol from now on. That is brilliant.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at February 15, 2008 10:31 AM

Ted: Do you have naked pictures of Seth? How come Dusting gets sent to review every cinematic piece of turd that's issued and you get to sit back with a bottle of rye watching Christian Bale?

I'm just not mean enough. tb

Some requests for the boozehound if I may:

A Hitchcock evening (emphasis on Rope) with a long pitcher of martinis (real martinis, not the girly ones they offer in pink and green)

A Japanese evening (let's say Battle Royale compbined with Zatoichi) with the strongest sake you can find (which shouldn't be hard in San Francisco)

And finally, you'd better be planning a really great St. Patrick's edition for me. Maybe a Neil Jordan festival (he's a Guinness man, I had a part time job in his local many years ago) or you could always do The Molly Malones (Richard Harris at his best) in which case I shall have to find you some poitin. My recommendation would be to do a bit of a Brenadan Gleason homage, say, I Went Down and The General. Now that would take some seriously strong stuff.

Done and done. I'll think about the films, but Daniel Day-Lewis is in my mind. tb

Posted by: PaddyDog at February 15, 2008 10:51 AM

Apologies for typos: was in the middle of a conference call while typing.

Posted by: PaddyDog at February 15, 2008 10:54 AM

I am beginning to appreciate Dodgeball more and more, simply because Steve the Pirate doesn't have something violently enter his torso in some way. The dodgeballs don't penetrate, you see.

Posted by: Snath at February 15, 2008 11:17 AM

Gail Russell was one of the most beautiful actresses of the 40s in Hollywood. This was one of her last big films. She wasn't a natural actress and had incredible fright about performing which she eased by drinking. She soon became an alcoholic.
Rumors of an affair with Wayne during this film drove her to drink even more and it was effectively the end of her as an A List star. She did more Westerns and B pictures in the coming years but died relatively young from the effects of alcoholism.
I love her in THE UNINVITED.

I believe she also re-teamed with John Wayne in The Wake of the Red Witch, a seafaring adventure tale. tb

Posted by: Andrew at February 15, 2008 11:30 AM

Right on, Andrew. The Uninvited is one of my favorite classics. Russell is riveting.

Posted by: boo at February 15, 2008 11:32 AM

Wow - just Wow.

Is the Rye here being used as a step up from American Whyskey, Canadaing Whyskey, Irish or Bourbon?

I have 3:10 from netflix, will now need to drink while watching it. I think I'll ad the other one to my queue.

Just a different experience, like bock instead of lager. tb

Posted by: Brian at February 15, 2008 11:35 AM

My own personal explanation for Russell Crowe's behavior at the end of 3:10 was that Christian Bale's preference-transcending hotness finally got to him, but you have just provided me with another: a well-concealed flask of rye whiskey. Sneaky!

And the Boozehound Cinephile is opening up a whole new world for me, which is good, because at this point my own personal universe of alcohol encompasses pretty much just cheap vodka and PBR, and this is sad. But I come seeking advice! What whiskey would you recommend for a bunch of freshman girls seeking to properly celebrate St. Patrick's Day? (We are planning in advance. This is a holy day, after all.)

Well, for "a bunch of freshman girls," I recommend the whiskey at my house.

But seriously folks (I'll be here all week!), I'm sure the commenters will straighten me out, but I love Jameson's with Stella behind. But since it's St. Paddy's, go with Harp as your chaser, and go with God. tb

Posted by: Smithy at February 15, 2008 12:06 PM

Soooo...this is a series of films reviewed when the writer was drinking that also tells us what he was drinking and how drunk he was?

I think trees everywhere are thanking Al Gore right now for inventing the internet so they don't have to watch their fellows give their lives to have stuff like this on paper.

I'm not wasting paper on this nonsense until I reach the level of profundity of "Us Weekly" or "USA Today." I cannot speak, however, for those who may be printing it to read on the crapper, as God intended. tb

Posted by: Brett at February 15, 2008 12:14 PM

This may be my favorite out of the boozehound columns, due not in small part for the Alan Tudyk/Serenity love-great job Socalled.

I can't wait to see 3:10, Christian Bale is one of my favorite humans, and I'm always excited to see Ben Foster on screen. I'll stick with red wine though, I can't handle whiskey or scotch...my brother received a bottle of single malt 18 year old some type of expensive scotch for Christmas, and I had to chase my sip down with a glass of iced tea. Klassy.

Posted by: Julie at February 15, 2008 12:17 PM

Another entertaining and informative entry from The Boozehound Cinephile. Well done Ted, you are indeed a leaf on the wind.

But...

Blue? Seriously? Blue? I imagine that your choice of Canadian beer might be limited where you are, but if you can find them, you might like to try Keith's IPA, Sleeman Cream Ale or (and this would be a miracle if you found it) Mill Street Organic Lager. You might also like Wiser's Deluxe 10 year Old rye. It still has the "Doc Potter hitting you in the face with a shovel" effect that one looks for in a good rye, but it also has some of the sweetness of bourbon.

Posted by: Dave at February 15, 2008 12:18 PM

Smithy: The secret to wetting the shamrock (which is the correct name for drinking on St. Patrick's Day) properly is to have a good starchy breakfast. If not, regardless of what you drink, you'll be legless by noon and miss out on the rest of the day. You really need a good foundation to soak up the first few. It's sort of like pre-hydrating before running a marathon. And of course we assume you will not be in command of any automated machinery on the 17th?

Posted by: PaddyDog at February 15, 2008 12:29 PM

Just a different experience, like bock instead of lager. tb

Was actually asking what your whiskey of choice was thta you were switiching it up with by using the rye.

Ah, sorry -- I'm primarily a bourbon man, alternating between Knob Creek and Wild Turkey 101, but that's a plurality preference, not a majority. I love single malt scotch and Irish whiskey, too, as well as rye. I'm not much of a fan of Canadian whiskey, as it's too sweet for my taste, but the missus likes sipping it with lemon juice and bar syrup on ice, a sort of whiskey sour. I prefer bourbon for those, too. tb

Posted by: Brian at February 15, 2008 12:54 PM

God damnit TB, all this talk of imbibing has left me wondering why don't I have a mini bar under my desk.

Posted by: Julie at February 15, 2008 1:07 PM

OK, I don't know if I can accept "Just a different experience, like bock instead of lager." I need more. Expand on the premise, please. I, for example, prefer my whiskey in the form of Maker's Mark over ice with a splash of water. So, let's take it back to your SATs - "Rye is to Maker's Mark as...."

(By the way, I'd like to take this opportunity to pass on this pearl of wisdom from my beloved late father: you should never trust a man who mixes his whiskey with anything but water or club soda. Only rednecks mix their whiskey with coke)

Okay, sweet-smelling hippie chick (at least as of 48 hours ago); if you're a bourbon drinker, then you may feel free to lecture me about carnivorism. Rye whiskey is to Maker's Mark (a nice choice, BTW) as rye bread is to pumpkin bread; they're in the same phylum, but the flavors are quite different, one being a more bitter flavor, in a good way, and the other being deeper and sweeter, but not in a sugary way. Rye is much more like a single malt than a bourbon, but not as full as single malt; more chippy and flinty. tb

Posted by: megbon at February 15, 2008 1:26 PM

Well, to be clear, I may be a tree-hugging, atheist, vegetarian, feminist liberal democrat, but I like my natural-fiber shoes with at least a three inch heel and, to keep on topic, maker's mark is a much more satisfying way to mellow out than meditation.

Excellent comparison, by the way. I'll bet you did very well on the SAT verbals. I may try out some rye with a flick tomorrow night when mr. bon is at work and the littlest bon is asleep

Well, I'm with you five-sixths of the way, then; as long you're bathing regularly, not wearing dreads, and not asking me for money in the Haight. I'm generally in agreement with your father's advice, though there are few absolutes with fine alcohol. Just like good gin is usually best served straight or with a splash of vermouth, good whiskey is usually best on its own. A good whiskey sour, however, with good bourbon, Meyer lemon juice, simple syrup, and lots of ice, is simply heavenly. Enjoy your rye. tb

Posted by: megbon at February 15, 2008 1:53 PM

The Main Squeeze is totally on a rye kick. Not only do we have six different types in our liquor "cabinet," but we have had friends over for rye tastings.

Don't drink the stuff myself, so I can't provide a personal comment on preferences; however we do have the following:

Old Overholt
Sazerac
Wild Turkey (yes, they make a rye too)
Jim Beam (see parenthetical note above)
Pikesville (a "Maryland style" rye, but not actually made in Maryland)
And I believe the last one is Michter's.

Although preferences vary, Pikesville gets a rave review all around. And the Old Overholt, although not the most expensive is also well liked.

In addition to neat, the rye is often enjoyed in our home in a Manhattan (perfect, I believe) and the Algonquin.

Posted by: tamatha at February 15, 2008 2:03 PM

Ted, always a smile inducing pleasure to read your column.

The second time I saw "No Country For Old Men" I went to the local theater accompanied only by a 6 oz. flask of Wild Turkey Rye. It was glorious.

Yeah, they don't produce it any more, but I've a couple dusty bottles for such occasions

Posted by: ian at February 15, 2008 2:22 PM

If you are going to drink shots of anything hard, its gotta be rye. Canadian Club is a great choice, cheapish, sweet but with enough bite to make you feel like a badass. The 26oz size also had a maple leaf sticker which usually ended up slapped on someone's forehead. Good times. Shit, now I want a drink sooo bad. I've been dry to save my liver for Vegas. I think I waited too long though.

Posted by: jenn at February 15, 2008 2:26 PM

The secret to wetting the shamrock

I can't hold it in any more. My head almost exploded when I read this phrase. So ... many ... jokes ... can't ... breathe ....

Mini-comment diversion: What's your secret for moistening the clover, kids?

Posted by: ted boynton at February 15, 2008 2:35 PM

Yes, I'd like to hear some of these.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at February 15, 2008 2:38 PM

ian-
They do still make Wild Turkey Rye. It's just that, like many ryes--because rye is not so popular (though it is experiencing a resurgence)--it can be hard to find.

Posted by: tamatha at February 15, 2008 2:40 PM

Sorry, I misspoke:

Mini-comment diversion: What's your secret for moistening the pantie-clover, kids?

Pantie-clover, I kind of like that.

Posted by: ted boynton at February 15, 2008 2:41 PM

Chapstick.

Oh, wait.

::slap!:: Suh! How dayah yew!

Posted by: Geetch at February 15, 2008 2:48 PM

I think I just got talked out of my weekend rye... the whiskey sour sounds pretty good.

As for "moistening the clover" (HA!) I spent every St. Paddy's Day of my 20s shuffling drinks at a local tavern and listening to a host of drunken, jackass college boys screaming "Erin, Go Bra-less." The shine, as they say, has rather worn off the St. Patrick's Day apple for me. I say if you want to go out and get your drink on big time, it's best to do it on a day when you won't be fighting 8 billion other people for the bartender's attention. Stay home on the 17th and hit the bars on the 18th. You'll have a much better time.

Posted by: megbon at February 15, 2008 2:59 PM

Dave--Right on with the Keiths IPA; you have excellent taste, my friend! Have you tried Keiths Red? Yowza! Sleemans does put out some beautiful stuff as well. Haven't tried the Cream Ale, but love the Honey Brown.

As for the moistening of the pantie-clover, hmmm...I'm an omniboozivore, really, but it's hard to beat a nice wine buzz. PKNT Sauv Blanc is a beauty.

Posted by: MO at February 15, 2008 3:46 PM

Moistening the panty-clover...my sister and I are big fans of Sam Adams' Winter Ale right now, and a glass or 15 of ANY wine will certainly do the trick, wine whore that I am. Especially a nice thick (heh) red. Ooh, and lovely lovely Guinness.

But my favorite beer in the universe for the past 3 years? Sea Dog Blueberry Ale. It's not a panty moistener, it's a panty tingler.

Posted by: Julie at February 15, 2008 3:55 PM

Julie, you're just a tease.

I stand by my gin and tonic (or sprite zero, when I can get it). never been a beer person, but I do like to change things up with a vodka on the rocks with a splash of lemon juice.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at February 15, 2008 4:03 PM

Lubricants of choice: vodka tonics and Astroglide. Just don't get 'em mixed up.

Posted by: biscuits at February 15, 2008 4:04 PM

Oops...meant to put such a tease. My bad...my bad, everyone.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at February 15, 2008 4:04 PM

Shadows: I don't tease when it comes to my blueberry beer-it is balls out awesome :) And I love a good gin and tonic on a hot day, they taste like summer.

Biscuits: ha!

Posted by: Julie at February 15, 2008 4:11 PM

Thanks for the advice, tb and for the, er, shamrock-wetting tip, PaddyDog. But I'm not touching the moist clover comments ("touching the moist clover" oh my God I've only made it worse), because it's only us girls anyway ("only us girls" bow-chicka-wow-wow will no one stop me?)

Posted by: Smithy at February 15, 2008 4:16 PM

"touching the moist clover"

I'm taking this phrase and inserting it into everyday conversation to watch reactions. Thank you, Smithy...far be it for me to stop you when you're on a roll.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at February 15, 2008 4:23 PM

TB - that regular Wild Turkey 101 or the Rare Breed. The Rare Breed is fine stuff.

Something else worth looking into - Bernheim Wheat Whiskey. Wonderfull

Posted by: Brian at February 15, 2008 4:27 PM

Thanks to Smithy I'm now thinking of moistened clover leaves, which leads to petals, which leads to no, too far!

Posted by: Julie at February 15, 2008 4:28 PM

Fuckin' gross - "touching the moist clover" sounds like inappropriately groping an underaged leprechaun.

Should "Law & Order - Special Victims Unit" ever take place in a fairytale kingdom of sorts, this phrase will most definitely be used...

Or in a porno version of "Labryinth" maybe...

Posted by: Skittmus Maximus at February 15, 2008 4:29 PM

Next, on Fairyland Case Files...

"It's alright, Thumbelina. Just show us on the doll where he touched you..."

sniff "Right...right there...on the clover..."

slams fist on table "That BASTARD!"

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at February 15, 2008 4:32 PM

"Those damn kids! First they touch me moist clover and now they're after me Lucky Charms!"

Posted by: Smithy at February 15, 2008 4:48 PM

Say baby, how's about you n' me hit Denny's and I'll buy you a Moon's over My Hammy? Afterwards, we can hit the Point and maybe hop into the backseat and...

Whoa, hold on there, baby, hold on... I don't wanna go all the way... I was just thinking maybe I could... uh, moisten yer clover...

C'mon, Betty Sue! We been goin' steady for almost two whole weeks! Don't be such a zipperbuster...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at February 15, 2008 4:57 PM

Ah, sorry -- I'm primarily a bourbon man, alternating between Knob Creek and Wild Turkey 101, but that's a plurality preference, not a majority. I love single malt scotch and Irish whiskey, too, as well as rye. I'm not much of a fan of Canadian whiskey, as it's too sweet for my taste, but the missus likes sipping it with lemon juice and bar syrup on ice, a sort of whiskey sour. I prefer bourbon for those, too. tb

Why do you have to mention Knob when my house is sadly lacking it's wonderful presence now?

Canadian preference is to Crown Royal. Crown and Coke is a fun and not cheap night out at the bar.

Heh heh, you said "knob." tb

Posted by: Melody at February 15, 2008 5:11 PM

Megbon: you are so right. That is why St. Pats requires a private party with selected guests.

Boozehound: I swear at this point I could type out the entire Privy Council decision on the Law Against Perpetuities in here and you would find it full of sexual innuendo. Shall I try?

I'm just tickled that someone remembers the Law Against Perpetuities. I guess you've caught the drift of my "springing interest" today. Lawyer humor, ar-ar! tb

Posted by: PaddyDog at February 15, 2008 5:24 PM

I'm shooting for a joint called The Local in Minneapolis. It's a balls-out Irish pub, and they serve an unbelievable Irish breakfast... Last time I was there it was around ten a.m. - it was the first time I've ever had a Guiness with my eggs and taters.

As a sidenote, they were actually visited by some officials from the Jamison distillery - turns out they serve more of the stuff than anywhere else in the States (if memory serves correct, they go through around 25 bottles a week).

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at February 15, 2008 5:31 PM

MO,

I've not tried Keith's Red yet. I'll keep an eye open next time I'm in the num num store.

I don't know where you are, but if you get to Toronto you really should go to the Mill Street Brewery in the old Distillery District. They have a seriously great brewpub, and you'll have to drink 7 or 8 pints before you come back to the top of their list of "brewed on premises" elixirs.

Posted by: Dave at February 15, 2008 7:04 PM

Dave--that sounds awesome, I'll have to make my way there if I'm ever in the big city! I'm in Nova Scotia, and would recommend that you take in the Propeller brewery in Halifax (another kick-ass IPA among their many varieties) as well as, of course, the Keith's brewery tour.

Or, if any of you are in my neck of the woods (Cape Breton), you really must visit the only single malt whisky distillery in North America (it's "scotch," but can't be called that because it's not made in Scotland...kind of the "sparkling white wine" of the hard liquor world).

Posted by: MO at February 15, 2008 9:20 PM

next time I'm in the num num store.

Hee hee hee, I'm ashamed that I know exactly what "num num store" means. Okay, I'm not at all ashamed, that's what I call BevMo. BevMo in NoCal is like the Mafia of good booze. Good on ya, MO and Dave.

Posted by: ted boynton at February 15, 2008 11:55 PM

Question: Why do neat whiskey/scotch/bourbon drinkers also tend to be close-talkers? How's your depth perception, Ted?

Probably because they're leaning in, trying not to end up on their faces. I haven't observed this phenomenon myself, but if you say so .... My depth perception kept me out of Navy pilot school, thank God or whatever, stupid moron teenager that I was -- it's only good enough to think Gail Russell's impressive knockers are comin' at ya in 3D. I have serious personal space issues, so I'm not a "close talker."

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at February 16, 2008 12:55 AM

Socalled Your depth perception must be pretty good to be typing at 12:55am...plus I love the word 'knockers'. It's so retro-horny. (Being a large-breasted North American female, it reminds me of high school, my formerly all-boys high school.)

Shadows, you online flirt, I think we are destined to meet. Tanq and tonic (screw Bombay and their massive marketing push) is divine even if gin does make one weepy and emotional.

-A

Posted by: Amanda47 at February 16, 2008 11:54 AM

Well, it was only 9:55 here on the Left Coast, so I'm actually pathetic for being at home before ten on a weekend night. I'm old and cranky.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at February 16, 2008 12:39 PM

When I'm feeling like a true alch I'll chase a Wild Turkey shot with a 151 and coke. Or I'll just drink me a Maker's and Miller High Life boilermaker. And if I really want a hangover there's always Zambuca shots and chasing them with whatever beverage the person standing next you is drinking (knowing that person is optional).... Lighting alchohol on fire is fun.

The problem with 3:10's ending starts when they are in the hotel. They have, what, five guys with rifles with advantageous position up in a hotel room looking down at the gang who is right out in the open. And instead of picking off the fuckers with ease, Bale's character takes off outside and runs around like a chicken with his head cutt off.

Exactly what I was thinking during the movie -- when Foster offered the bounty to the bystanders, Bale should have opened up with that street sweeper he was carrying. At that range, a low-gauge shotgun would have blown a big hole through Foster's back or chest, probably terminating the whole situation. I was just as bothered, though, by Ben Wade's change in philosophy. It just didn't fit. tb

Posted by: JP at February 17, 2008 1:02 AM

I am extremely late to the game on this one; however, I wanted to say how much I enjoyed reading this new addition to the boozehound cinephile and all of the comments. I am extremely entertained.

The way I like to "moisten the clover" is by the tried and true Irish car bomb, make sure the shot is 95% Jameson with a sprinkling of Bailey's on top (mmmmm....Jameson). Also, I concur with whoever said stay in on St. Paddy's day. The best thing to do is have one friend bring Guinness, another bring Harp, one more bring a few bottles of Jameson (maybe 3 or 4), and the last bring a bottle of Bailey's. Start in the morning and drink steadily throughout the day. Have a camera on hand ,a set of poker chips, and some Dropkick Murphy's playing (if you know Irish drinking songs, like I do, that's even better). Okay, all this booze talk is giving me a hankerin' for a nice cold beer. Cheers!

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at February 17, 2008 4:31 PM

"Exactly what I was thinking during the movie -- when Foster offered the bounty to the bystanders, Bale should have opened up with that street sweeper he was carrying. At that range, a low-gauge shotgun would have blown a big hole through Foster's back or chest, probably terminating the whole situation."

I have no idea what is possessing me to comment this late in the game except that I need a break from wrangling the giant dust bunnies in our office (night of the Lupus, Aiiiiigh!).

My take on why nobody up in the hotel started firing first on Wade's gang had to do with intent of the mission: getting Wade to the train station on time. Without accomplishing that goal, nobody got paid, and the money was Dan Evans' driving motivation. If the folks in the hotel had started firing at will on Wade's gang, they could have created some sort of Alamo situation whereby they all could have gotten killed, including Wade, and then what would have been the point? Plus, these were small-town deputies and Wade's gang had a pretty impressive reputation for successfully wiping out whatever stood in their way.

Also, my experience with shotguns (sounding like a total redneck gun-nut) is that what with the recoil and such, you can't aim them worth shit. Shotguns are better for blowing a huge hole in something at close range, not for a long, measured shot. Evans would have maybe wounded Charlie Prince with a hit or at least shrapnel from whatever he blasted with the shotgun and probably pissed him off. A rifle or even pistol would have been better suited.

And Hells Yeah to car bombs! The Pinks traditionally feast on Mexican food for St. Paddy's (They are mercifully empty as well.),then go home to raise our bombed cars to that snake-busting Saint.

Posted by: Alabamapink at February 17, 2008 6:47 PM