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Oscar Predictions: Boozehound Cinephile / Ted Boynton

Boozehound Cinephile | January 2, 2009 | Comments (92)


As we await the annual tradition of Academy Award fuck-wittery known as the nominations announcement, cinephiles have the opportunity, and some might say the duty, to clamor from the rooftops to celebrate their own choices for excellence in film, as well as to condemn the ridiculous nonsense that all too often passes for actual achievement in cinema. What better way to start than with some early Oscar predictions, prefaced by the Boozehound’s picks for what should be nominated (but mostly won’t), followed by predictions for what will be nominated. We’re only focusing on the major awards here, though in order to get celery to stop picketing on my driveway over writer recognition, I’ve included adapted and original screenplay. For his her punishment, however, I have lazily neglected to print the writers’ names.

Should Be Nominated: My preferences for the winners are marked with an asterisk.

Best Picture: Despite all the moaning about a perceived fall-off in quality from 2007’s dramatic riches, 2008 had no shortage of top-shelf films - you just had to look beyond traditional notions of “prestige” films. Iron Man clearly will not be nominated - good heavens, no, we can’t possibly have two comic book movies - though it’s just as clearly superior to most of the films the Academy typically selects. Tell No One also will not be nominated - no foreign language film has ever won Best Picture, despite the statistical unlikelihood of English language films being the best every single year - but it was the most gripping and emotionally devastating film released this year.

Iron Man
The Dark Knight
Tell No One*
Rachel Getting Married
The Wackness

Best Director: In my ideal world, the director nominees in this category could overlap with Best Picture but typically would not; otherwise, why have two separate awards? Too often the Academy views the two categories as the same award - last year four out of five Best Picture nominees were also nominated for Best Director - instead of going to the effort of identifying directors who accomplished something special or rare, even though they may not have produced the best film of the year. Each of my preferred nominees created something beautiful, with a distinctive tone and feel for which the director should be recognized.

Gus Van Sant, Paranoid Park*
Guillaume Canet, Tell No One
Charlie Kaufman, Synechdoche, New York
Jon Favreau, Iron Man
Laurent Cantet, The Class

Best Actor: Sean Penn was fantastic as Harvey Milk, and I think he’s a shoo-in for the actual award, but my pick is Richard Jenkins, who captured the very essence of world-weariness while delivering a restrained but uplifting performance about recovering from the vagaries of life. Let’s not forget Robert Downey, Jr., who singlehandedly carried Iron Man to a higher place with his unique combination of irreverent humor and oddly infectious gravitas. And Josh Peck was perfect as a directionless slacker - we’ll see if he has any range for other roles, but he was pitch perfect in The Wackness.

Sean Penn, Milk
Robert Downey, Jr., Iron Man
Richard Jenkins, The Visitor*
François Cluzet, Ne le dis à personne (Tell No One)
Josh Peck, The Wackness

Best Actress: I doubt Melissa Leo has a shot at a nomination; very few people saw Frozen River despite its recognition at Sundance. For the same reason, Kristen Scott Thomas probably has little chance, though her name recognition gives her more hope than Leo. I’m still not completely sold on Anne Hathaway, but she was fantastic in Rachel Getting Married, and I think she’ll actually be nominated. I had my issues with Alan Ball’s Towelhead, but Summer Bishil’s performance as a sexually awakening teen was one of the best I saw in 2008.

Melissa Leo, Frozen River*
Kristen Scott Thomas, I’ve Loved You So Long
Michelle Williams, Wendy and Lucy
Anne Hathaway, Rachel Getting Married
Summer Bishil, Towelhead

Best Supporting Actor: Brendan Gleeson actually has a shot at being nominated here, and he was wonderful in the otherwise disappointing In Bruges. It’s highly doubtful that Macdissi will be nominated, but he was excellent in Towelhead, funny and horrifying at the same time.

Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges*
Josh Brolin, Milk
Robert Downey, Jr., Tropic Thunder
Peter Macdissi, Towelhead
Ralph Fiennes, The Reader

Best Supporting Actress: The rest of the field seemed a little thin, so maybe Patricia Clarkson finally has a shot at a nomination. Hiam Abbass didn’t have a tremendous amount of screen time in The Visitor, but her role provided the emotional pivot for the film, and she was fantastic. Out of all the “names” in the cast of Vicky Cristina Barcelona, relative unknown Rebecca Hall did the best work. (Note: Hall’s performance, as well as Marissa Tomei’s turn in the The Wrestler, may qualify as a lead role.)

Marissa Tomei, The Wrestler
Hiam Abbass, The Visitor
Patricia Clarkson, Elegy*
Rebecca Hall, Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Elsa Zylberstein, I’ve Loved You So Long

Best Original Screenplay:

The Wackness*
Towelhead Witless Protection
Frozen River
Synechdoche, New York
Flash of Genius Milk

(Are you happy now, celery? Somewhere, Greg Kinnear and Philip Railsback are crying. Crying!)

Best Adapted Screenplay:

Elegy
Milk Doubt
The Reader
Frost/Nixon*
Revolutionary Road Towelhead

Will Be Nominated: Predicted winners are marked with an asterisk.

Best Picture:

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button*
The Dark Knight
Slumdog Millionaire
Wall-E
Milk

Best Director:

David Fincher, The Curious Case of Bejamin Button*
Gus Van Sant, Milk
Christopher Nolan, The Dark Knight
Danny Boyle, Slumdog Millionaire
John Patrick Shanley, Doubt

Best Actor:

Sean Penn, Milk*
Mickey Rourke, The Wrestler
Brad Pitt, The Curious Case of Bejamin Button
Leonardo DiCaprio, Revolutionary Road
Richard Jenkins, The Visitor

Best Actress:

Anne Hathaway, Rachel Getting Married*
Kate Winslet, Revolutionary Road
Cate Blanchett, The Curious Case of Bejamin Button
Michelle Williams, Wendy and Lucy
Meryl Streep, Doubt

Best Supporting Actor:

Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight
Josh Brolin, Milk*
Michael Shannon, Revolutionary Road
James Franco, Milk
Robert Downey, Jr., Tropic Thunder

Best Supporting Actress:

Penelope Cruz, Vicky Cristina Barcelona*
Viola Davis, Doubt
Amy Adams, Doubt
Marissa Tomei, The Wrestler
Taraji P. Henson, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button

Best Original Screenplay:

Synechdoche, New York
Doubt Rachel Getting Married
Che Milk
The Wrestler
Wall-E*

Best Adapted Screenplay:

Milk Elegy
Elegy Doubt
The Reader*
Frost/Nixon
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button

(Benicio Del Toro is weeping because of you, celery. Weeping! On the other hand, Philip Roth is tickled shitless.)


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Comments

I'm a little surprised you don't think Ledger should be nominated. I still think it's possible for him to win, but if anyone's going to beat him, it'll either be Phillip Seymour Hoffman or Frank Langella. And I think the backlash against Benjamin Button has been sufficient enough to give the win to a different movie, though I have no idea what, since no movie this year has stood out for me at all. I collected all the best picture nominees from last year on DVD because they were all amazing. This year, they'll all be pretty good, but nothing more.

Oh, and I have to give a quick shout out, because no one in the country is talking about Sam Rockwell's haunting performance in Snow Angels, and I thought at least one person should mention it. He's fucking great in that movie, even when working opposite a clearly slumming Kate Beckinsale. That was such a good movie. Olivia Thirlby=Awesome. And yet, nobody saw it, and no one will nominate it for anything.


I thought Ledger gave an excellent performance. In my opinion, that wasn't enough to overcome a number of other standouts, but I know I'm in the minority here. The interesting question is: If Ledger hadn't died, would he even be nominated, much less win? I seriously doubt it. tb

Posted by: Audiosuede at January 2, 2009 1:19 PM

Why is there even a category for best supporting actor this year? Everyone with a partially intact frontal lobe knows that Heath already won it. How shitty would it be to be one of those 4 losers nominated against Heath? And to have to wait and wait just to find out that you lost to a dead guy who played a makeup wearing psychopath? Sucks to be them. Unless you consider that they're high paying actors in Hollywood nominated for prestigious awards, and I'm some loser posting away on Pajiba, with no goals or true meaning to life. Where the hell is my beer?


I know the media have handed it to Ledger's estate already, but I think the voters may very well go with Josh Brolin to make up for his not getting any attention for No Country last year. He's fantastic in Milk, and I'm hoping there's a secret backlash against the Ledger fawning. Again, I thought Ledger did great, but his death completely skewed the discussion. tb

Posted by: Xtreme at January 2, 2009 1:23 PM

Pleased to see the nod to Brendan Gleeson, who was absolutely amazing in In Bruges. I couldn't even believe how much he made me feel for his character.

Posted by: teacupnosaucer at January 2, 2009 1:24 PM

Great read - I can't really comment because I've yet to see so many of these films. Small town life has its downfalls...

Posted by: Cindy at January 2, 2009 1:24 PM

I don't think WALL-E can be nominated for Best Picture, can it? That's why they invented the Best Animated Feature category, so there's no risk of animated movies ever tainting the 'real movies.'

Yes I'm bitter.


The rules do not prohibit an animated film from winning Best Picture, and Disney has campaigned hard for Wall-E. Given its combination of good quality, an environmentalist message, and cutesey, doesn't-pierce-the-skin misanthropy, I think it will be nominated but can't win. tb

Posted by: twig at January 2, 2009 1:24 PM

The "otherwise disappointing In Bruges"? For shame.


Eh. I did like the dwarf. tb

Posted by: Sean at January 2, 2009 1:26 PM

"otherwise disappointing In Bruges. - I don't even know what that means. I have yet to hear anyone say anything negative about that flick. I found it so surprisingly good. I had no expectations and really enjoyed it. Has this already been discussed? Not to put you on the spot, but what didn't you like about it, Ted?

If Heath Ledger isn't at least nominated, I think the Oscars are even more of an idiotic joke than I've always thought. I didn't buy into the hype that he "disappeared into the role" and "I forgot it was him, blah, blah, blah" until I finally watched it a couple of weeks ago. He truly did transform into that character. I thought it was just fantastic!

I've never even heard of a bunch of these movies - Paranoid Park, Elegy, I've Loved You So Long, The Class. Maybe it's because I live in Ohio. Fucking Ohio.

PS: I'm pretty sure Celery is a woman.


I was underwhelmed by In Bruges; nothing in particular, I just didn't think it was that good. My expectations were probably too high, and I was hoping for more of a British gangster experience. Also, note to Ralph Fiennes: No one but Kingsley can play Don Logan. tb

Posted by: Lainey at January 2, 2009 1:27 PM

If you think Paranoid Park is beautiful, give me 10 minutes so that I may bowl you over with the gigantic steaming turd that I'll lay, with much affection, under the Burnside Bridge. While it's true that Van Sant has apparently figured out where the slow motion button is on his camcorder (to..... much..... dramatic..... affect) doesn't mean that you can call that piece of shit movie "art," let alone Oscar-worthy.

Posted by: genius at January 2, 2009 1:31 PM

Ted, nicely done. But why no love for Slumdog Millionaire?


I've become coincidenciphobic in my old age. I can no longer tolerate films that rely almost exclusively on wildly improbable chance events to drive the plot. Also, I was disgraced by scandal when I appeared as a contestant on an Indian game show, and I've never gotten over it. tb

Posted by: L.O.V.E. (formerly JP) at January 2, 2009 1:34 PM

He did say that he's drunk and baiting.

I haven't seen a lot of these movies so I can't argue about the choices and I probably won't have much invested in the outcomes. However, I'll be happy to drink through the ceremony with everybody again.

Funny, AMPAS apparently dropped whyistheshowsolong.com

Posted by: Jay at January 2, 2009 1:42 PM

I will be totally shocked and disappointed if Ledger doesn't win this year's Oscar for Best Supporting Actor.

Posted by: Pookie at January 2, 2009 1:50 PM

Technical question here from someone who knows next to nothing about the industry: if Doubt is based on a play, would it qualify as an original screenplay, or be considered an adapted screenplay?

Oh, and Lainey is correct--celery is indeed a gal.


Well, of course Doubt would be an adapted screenplay. LOOK OVER THERE OMG WHAT IS THAT HORRIBLE CREATURE!!! Yes, adapted, just like I had it listed. tb

Posted by: meaux at January 2, 2009 1:57 PM

Well dead babies on a stick, I haven't seen a single one of these movies. I don't think I realized until this moment just how much movie watching had tapered off for me. I haven't even seen Dark Knight or Iron Man for the love of all that is hairy. And I have an entire book case full of graphic novels (yes, graphic novels not comic books, you heathens).

The only movies I've seen in the last five years in the theatre are ... Return of the King (just made the cut), Mystic River (I think this was for an anniversary), Pirates of the Caribbean 3: The Continuing Mystery of Scenes without Johnny Depp (my step daughter got ditched by her friends and had an extra ticket so I took her), and Revenge of the Sith (we knew it would suck, but if you sleep with two out of a set of really really fugly triplets, you've got to hit the third just to complete the set, am I right?).

All of a sudden I feel like a toelicker at a furry convention.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 2, 2009 2:05 PM

Nice catch, meaux. I would think it should be in the adapted category.

With regards to the Ledger/Joker brouhaha, I saw the movie for the first time last weekend (no, I don't get out much, shut up) and was just dumbfounded, in a good way. Obviously, I knew about the hype and kept myself as spoiler-free as possible, and hot damn did the entire film deliver. I'm thinking Ledger might get the nom and the win because of the Brokeback/Crash screwover and because it's his last shot at a statue, due to his being dead and all. Or is that wishful thinking?

Posted by: Nicole at January 2, 2009 2:11 PM

Finally saw "The Dark Knight" last night. I never felt the great love for "Batman Begins," and the second installment left me with the same, largely meh feeling. But Ledger was as amazing as advertised. And as good as RDJ was in "Tropic Thunder" (which it pains me a bit to say -- I'm not the fawning, ass-licking fan that so many pajibans are), I don't think he was better than Ledger.

As for Horseface Hathaway, I'd be very surprised (and disappointed) if she gets the nomination. The few reviews I saw of the movie were kind but not glowing about her performance, and the film itself doesn't seem to have generated the buzz necessary for a "small" film to be recognized in such a major category. Let's hope not, anyway.

Posted by: jimbob at January 2, 2009 2:14 PM

I'm not the fawning, ass-licking fan that so many pajibans are

I really do not understand the appeal of ass-licking. What's wrong with a good old-fashioned angry chipmunk?


(1) If ever a question needed the insight of Pookie, this would be it. (2) I'm not sure I have the necessary elasticity, you know, down there. tb

Posted by: Sabrina at January 2, 2009 2:22 PM

Wait, what creature? I--oh, hey.... That was slick, Mr. Boynton.

Hey Nicole, I too just watched The Dark Knight over the weekend. I agree--it was a hell of a performance, and he'll almost certainly get a nomination. A win wouldn't surprise me either. I do think Ted is right, that win would be highly unlikely if Ledger was still with us--more because of the nature of the movie than the quality of his performance. However, I do think there'd still have been a nomination.

Posted by: meaux at January 2, 2009 2:26 PM

Tb, couldn't agree with you more about Josh Brolin in No Country. I had to check my underwear when the nominations came out and no Brolin. I thought he did an admirable job as the sleezy cop in American Gangster too.

Posted by: pete at January 2, 2009 2:27 PM

I'm praying that "an angry chipmunk" is a euphemism for something other than an actual chipmunk going to town on someone's ass. Can someone help me out here -- and not with an angry chipmunk?


Surely you have urban dictionary bookmarked for just such occasions. How else to find out what an Indianapolis Humidor is? tb

Posted by: jimbob at January 2, 2009 2:28 PM

In answer to your question, if Ledger had not died, would he still be nominated? I think the answer is a definitive, no-doubt "yes." He attained immense acting credibility for his performance in Brokeback Mountain, and many thought that he should have won that year. A more populist, accessible, scene-stealing, tour de force supporting villain role is more than enough excuse for the nomination.

The question of whether his death will actually skew the win in his favor is more relevant, but I don't have any problem with his winning. He's as worthy as anyone. Brolin had a great year, but I expect he has many more great performances in his future.

As for The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button, I continue to be completely mystified by the adoration it has received. Don't get me wrong; it's a fine technical achievement with solid performances, but narratively and thematically it leaves me completely cold. The story almost completely ignores the potential of its central conceit, save for arbitrarily shoehorning it in at the end of the second act as an audience-aienating, unsympathetic plot device for the sake of a predictable frame story. At what point in the film do we ever see Benjamin's condition truly limiting him in any substantive way?

Posted by: DarthCorleone at January 2, 2009 2:34 PM

I learned not to look up these things anymore at work after the top posters comment thread in which people demanded to see Julie's decolletage. It didn't seem like a work unfriendly word, until the wikipedia search returned with a picture of an epic heaving bosom just as my boss looked over my shoulder.

[fist shakes at sky]

Damn you wikipedia, you were supposed to be the safe place to look up words on the intrawebs!

Posted by: stipe42 at January 2, 2009 2:36 PM

"alienating," that is.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at January 2, 2009 2:39 PM

What's wrong with a good old-fashioned angry chipmunk?

Well Jesus Christ, it sure sounds a lot less friendly than a lick!

Is that how analingus gets repaid nowadays?!? With violence?!?


analingus

What does the national airline of Ireland have to do with it? tb

Posted by: Jay at January 2, 2009 2:44 PM

-- Also, I was disgraced by scandal when I appeared as a contestant on an Indian game show, and I've never gotten over it. tb

Wait a sec. Ted, were you the guy who slapped the host on that Indian Game Show?

http://www.campussqueeze.com/post/Slap-War-On-Indian-Game-Show.aspx

Posted by: L.O.V.E. (formerly JP) at January 2, 2009 2:45 PM

Also, www.onelook.com

Posted by: Jay at January 2, 2009 2:45 PM

Just looked it up and . . . wow . . . hmmm . . . To answer your question, Sabrina, I guess there's nothing wrong with an angry chipmunk. I'm mostly relieved it wasn't a variation on the whole gerbil thing. On the other hand, a girl would have to have a mouth like Horseface Hathaway to accomplish such a feat, no?

Posted by: jimbob at January 2, 2009 2:49 PM

Getting away from the sex games for a minute, what's everyone drinking for the Oscars this year?


Wine spritzers! tb

Posted by: Nicole at January 2, 2009 2:59 PM

Gus Van Sant for Paranoid Park? Excuse me while I extinguish the fire shooting out of my eyes.

And what about Meryl Streep? Her performance in Doubt was, as is expected, flawless. Woman's a superhero.

Posted by: Natalie at January 2, 2009 3:04 PM

And James Franco's stiff reading of his last line in Milk was the worst part of the film for me.

"Does anyone even care?" No, nobody cares James. Go smoke a joint.

Posted by: Natalie at January 2, 2009 3:07 PM

i was on a game show once.

it was called "just like mum" and was a parent/kid version of the newlywed game. i won a 7 pound chocolate bar and a box of crappy, fake lego that i traded for a rick springfield album.

the host of the show was a sexpest, john davidson wannabe. he tried to hug and kiss me on air and i pushed him away and called him gross. he was eventually replaced by a fat,, alcoholic baseball announcer. one night in grade seven, my friend jody was babysitting his kids and had to call the cops because he showed up LOADED, took off his shirt and cried on the coffee table.

my first boyfriend was on a high-school trivia game show called "campus quiz". the first prize was a bag of chips and a 5 dollar gift certificate to the "peterborough square" shopping mall.

canada rules.

Posted by: celery at January 2, 2009 3:09 PM

celery, I was taking a tour of Universal Studios when I got picked to go on stage and try some Gak and the slime that shoots out of giant noses on Double Dare. It's supposed to be edible and taste like apples. I chickened out, though, and I'll regret that opportunity to eat slime for the rest of my unfulfilled life.

Posted by: Sabrina at January 2, 2009 3:22 PM

What was Milk adapted from? His life?

Posted by: Withnail at January 2, 2009 3:27 PM

By the way, I'm totally rooting for Tomei to follow in Halle's nude footsteps and win best actress.

Posted by: L.O.V.E. (formerly JP) at January 2, 2009 3:30 PM

Oh come on stripe42, the Prequel trilogy are the most overly nitpicked films of all time. You hate them so much at this point, but for all the wrong reasons.

First off, everyone hates Jar Jar, and I know I'm the minority on this one, but they needed a character like him in order to create humor. It could have improved, but without any attempt, the second and third films felt lifeless. And C3P0 was in the third film the whole time, so there's no excuse. That's why I value C3P0 so much, comic relief is needed.

Second, people bitch all the time about the performances, but the actors did fine. Except for Hayden Christiansin and Natalie Portman, their were no bad actors, or bad performances, in the whole fucking thing. Which is more that can be said for the originals.

The real problems were the fact that they took too long to make, and no one wanted George Lucas to make the films. Everyone wanted to make them themselves. Plus, the whole was less than the sum of the parts. George Lucas' main problem is that he can't write about politics. That's why the movie fell flat. But the effects, battles, and certain actors were nice. So shut the fuck up.

These Oscar predictions are terrifyingly close to reality. I'm going to go hide from the stupidity that I know is coming. Thanks Boozehound.

And stop hating on the Dark Knight just because it's mainstream.

Posted by: George at January 2, 2009 3:44 PM

Ledger will win, and not only b/c he's dead, but to make up for the Brokeback loss. It's the same thing that happened back in the 90's when Judi Dench lost for Mrs. Brown (a travesty), then was given the statue the very next year for Shakespeare in Love to make up for it. Just more of the Academy's ridiculous douchebaggery.

Posted by: Smokin at January 2, 2009 3:45 PM

Well I geek out on the history of wars and shady dealings and such so I enjoyed that being brought into Star Wars, but I suppose I liked the story being told so much that the execution that could've been better doesn't bother me as much. I still don't like the Gungans vs. the droids, but I like the machinations involved in why Palpatine did it. And you're right, good damn actors who would've been well served by having Lawrence Kasdan having a pass at the dialogue. They can't be blamed. I still like that George tried and that he had an interesting plot, and it's still all full of the Star Wars crack dust so there'd still be something for me to enjoy whatever happened.

I know I've mentioned before how I've come to appreciate Jake Lloyd. He's kind of annoying to listen to, but 8 year old boys are.

Posted by: Jay at January 2, 2009 3:56 PM

The thing missing from the prequels was Han Solo. Everything else wrong with them could have been forgiven (as it was with the original trilogy) if they just had someone around to call the pompous-ass jedi on their crap every once and a while. Seriously, think back to the original trilogy and think how horribly tedious it would have been without the rogue characters: Han, Chewie, Lando, hell even R2. Luke and his eye rolling drama is no more ridiculous or irritating than Anakin's. The difference is that Han smacked him upside the head when he was being a whiny little bitch.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 2, 2009 4:02 PM

I totally agree, everything needs more Hans Solo.

Posted by: Sabrina at January 2, 2009 4:14 PM

the best movie that i saw in 2008 was the mind blowing IL DIVO at TIFF. i don't know if it's going to be released in the states. if you get a chance to see it, then you might want to read up a bit on the related history beforehand. it's a great movie regardless, but packs even a bigger punch to the somewhat informed.

in a fair world, it would (at least) receive nominations for best picture, screenplay, cinematography and lead actor. here's the intro paragraph from variety:

"An intensely political film so wildly inventive and witty that it will become a touchstone for years to come, "Il Divo" is a masterpiece for maverick helmer-scribe Paolo Sorrentino. Not merely chronicling the career of seven-time Italian Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti but also zooming in on the enigmatic politico's character, pic features an astonishing degree of craftsmanship and a towering performance by Toni Servillo. Sole drawback is that nonlocals will feel inundated by names, most of which are familiar only to Italo auds. This is a brave, bold film whose chances of international success are relatively small, but whose ramifications are huge."

Posted by: celery at January 2, 2009 4:29 PM

Josh Brolin is a good actor, I guess... I just get this off-putting vibe from him. Like, under a thin and brittle shell of folksy charm, he is a seething mass of barely controlled rage and entitlement that has led to many hooker deaths.

I get this same feeling from Andy Griffith, too. Seriously.

Posted by: firedmyass at January 2, 2009 4:36 PM

George Lucas' main problem is that he can't write about politics.

Funny, because I would have said that George Lucas' main problem is that he can't write about politics dialogue.

Posted by: branded at January 2, 2009 4:42 PM

Tell No One is such an amazing film. I think it was you who made me rent it the first time, and I've got such a yearning to see it again that I'm buying the soundtrack until I can actually buy the film.

Just thinking about the ending makes my heart melt a little bit. It'd be great to see this film getting some recognition from the Academy.

Posted by: racheldancin at January 2, 2009 4:57 PM

What? No Best Supporting nod for Pearce Brosnan in "Mamma Mia!"??? I am SHOCKED! He should have received an Oscar nod AND a Grammy nod for that voice.

Posted by: The Pink Hulk at January 2, 2009 5:08 PM

I will only say this: if the Academy actually looked at the strength of the performance regardless of film genre, the line-ups would be very different in the acting categories. And by that I mean Jess Weixler would be a shoe-in for a nomination for her outstanding work in Teeth.

Posted by: Robert at January 2, 2009 5:18 PM

You know, I'd like to see Jenna Jameson get a nomination for her role in Zombie Strippers. The woman shot pool balls out of her ladybits, for pete's sake. Now, THAT's acting!

Posted by: meaux at January 2, 2009 5:24 PM

Ted, I enjoyed the whole thing, but have to give you extra applause for the term "coincidenciphobic." I totally have that disease, too, and it's one of a few reasons that I think Slumdog is overrated.

The place for your optimism about Brolin, though, is only on your wish list. As for what the Academy will do, it seems almost impossible that they won't take the opportunity to milk Ledger's death for all the ratings magic and celebrity maudlinism its worth. ("Maudlinism" is not nearly as good a new word as "coincidenciphobic," I grant you.)


Hi JW! I'm afraid you're right, but I'm thinking positive this week. tb

Posted by: John Williams at January 2, 2009 5:28 PM

I also grant that "its" is not nearly as good a word as "it's."

Posted by: John Williams at January 2, 2009 5:30 PM

The woman shot pool balls out of her ladybits, for pete's sake. Now, THAT's acting!

It doesn't count as acting if it's what you normally do in your day to day life. It's in the Academy regulations. Just like how Chuck Norris can't be nominated for Best Actor for kicking ass in a movie, because he does that every day just walking down the street.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 2, 2009 5:30 PM

You know, I'd like to see Jenna Jameson get a nomination for her role in Zombie Strippers. The woman shot pool balls out of her ladybits, for pete's sake. Now, THAT's acting!

From what I hear, that's standard Ladies' Night Rules at most Philadelphia pool halls.

Posted by: branded at January 2, 2009 5:35 PM

Lordy, I'd better get working on my Kegels...

Posted by: meaux at January 2, 2009 5:46 PM

I tried working on my ass kegels once and all I managed to do was poop my pants. At work.


I think you're doing it wrong. tb

Posted by: stipe42 at January 2, 2009 7:00 PM

Well branded, in essence you're right, George Lucas has dialogue troubles, but it's mostly in the heavy handed manners. His side comments, and Han Solo like dialogue is great, just look at American Graffiti and the Han Solo scenes.

Thanks for listening Jay, Sabrina, stripe42, and branded. I agree that the film could have used a Han Solo type figure, and also a C3P0 figure. Relief from heavy handedness is essential for a movie.

Like you all, I would've done things differently, but I'm glad that you still understand where I'm coming from. Maybe I could post something about that... I can dream can't I?

Why does the Academy have to suck so much ass? It almost never gets things right. How dare they fail to give best picture to It's a Wonderful Life. How dare they rob talented actresses like Jesse Jane, Jenna Jameson, and Linda Lovelace.

Posted by: George at January 2, 2009 9:03 PM

I've seen not a SINGLE ONE of those films. Fuck yeah! I've been working really hard on my Not Having a Life Plan and it's been working, apparently.

Actually when it comes to film, I'm going back to the classics, eg: The Muppet's Christmas Carol, y'all.

Posted by: Anastasia Beaverhausen at January 2, 2009 9:49 PM

Robert Downey Jr as Best Actor?

Bitch, please. Iron Man movie was REALLY not all that.

Posted by: figgy at January 3, 2009 12:02 AM

I keep reading The Curious Case of Benjamin Bratt.
...What did ever happen to him?

Posted by: popejenn at January 3, 2009 12:34 AM

RDJ vs. Joker

Posted by: jak asstro at January 3, 2009 1:22 AM

Benjamin Bratt is on the Cleaner on A&E (I think it's that one).

Overly serious emmy bait basic cable shows: where old actors go to die.

Michael Chiklis! Glenn Close! Holly Hunter! Kira Sedgewick! Ron Perlman! Meet the latest addition to the brotherhood. The one, the only, Mister Benjamin Bratt!

Posted by: stipe42 at January 3, 2009 1:45 AM

Oh sweet zombie jesus! In the course of my follow up research for that last comment, I clicked on IMDB's page for "E-Ring", a TV show I've never heard of from 2005 that starred Benjamin Bratt. The first listed user comment?

"fills the void left by JAG"

I so hope that comment is ironic, I'm laughing like a demented donkey.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 3, 2009 1:50 AM

I tried working on my ass kegels once and all I managed to do was poop my pants. At work.


I think you're doing it wrong. tb

Posted by: stipe42 at January 2, 2009 7:00 PM

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As a practicing homosexual, I KNOW that is not the correct result of the Ass Kegel.

Are there non-practicing homosexuals? I mean, even the closeted ones practice...how else would they get caught cruising men's rooms?

Sorry, I'm drunk and waxing...drunk.

Posted by: Smokin at January 3, 2009 2:40 AM

Up yours figgy, Iron Man was the third best movie of the year. Right behind Wall-E and Dark Knight. This is one of those years where most of the mainstream movies didn't suck, while the Oscar bait underground films mostly fell flat.


Let the deniers deny, but Iron Man was, in fact, ALL THAT, BABY! We may disagree on the order of finish, but you can't keep down the RDJ. tb

Posted by: George at January 3, 2009 3:23 AM

As a practicing homosexual, I KNOW that is not the correct result of the Ass Kegel.

Are there non-practicing homosexuals? I mean, even the closeted ones practice...how else would they get caught cruising men's rooms?

Sorry, I'm drunk and waxing...drunk.

There are non practicing gays for religious reasons, like Cliff Richards and Prince (technically a non practicing bi).

I don't understand why you'd be non practicing, I mean once you know what it is to be gay and you've felt how it makes you feel - if you believe in God, wouldn't it be obvious to you that it's sort of a gift from Him... It'd be rude not to accept.

Of course, being straight and not associated with any given religious group, I'm not really the best person to listen to. Except... For the love of God, don't wax your eyebrows when you're drunk!

Is Tammy Faye Baker to passe a reference to throw in here?

*snaps*

Posted by: Bane at January 3, 2009 11:12 AM

Sorry, the italics tag seems to only affect one paragraph at a time. Lemme fix...

As a practicing homosexual, I KNOW that is not the correct result of the Ass Kegel.

Are there non-practicing homosexuals? I mean, even the closeted ones practice...how else would they get caught cruising men's rooms?

Sorry, I'm drunk and waxing...drunk.
Posted by: Smokin at January 3, 2009 2:40 AM

There are non practicing gays for religious reasons, like Cliff Richards and Prince (technically a non practicing bi).

I don't understand why you'd be non practicing, I mean once you know what it is to be gay and you've felt how it makes you feel - if you believe in God, wouldn't it be obvious to you that it's sort of a gift from Him... It'd be rude not to accept.

Of course, being straight and not associated with any given religious group, I'm not really the best person to listen to. Except... For the love of God, don't wax your eyebrows when you're drunk!

Is Tammy Faye Baker to passe a reference to throw in here?

*snaps*

Posted by: Bane at January 3, 2009 11:17 AM

God loves both gay and straight, as someone who's brother came out a few years ago you have no idea what its like to see someone finally feel whole. I had an inkling he might be gay but it never occurred to me to ask him about his sexual preference. It's kinda funny but when I look back on it I always felt closer to my gay brother than my straight brother.

Posted by: Pookie at January 3, 2009 11:45 AM

I have no idea how you can possibly say that Josh Brolin is going to win best supporting actor for his role as Dan White in "Milk." His acting was nothing special, and certainly is not amazing enough to win an Oscar. In my mind, Heath has it locked. I also sincerely doubt that Robert Downey JR. is going to be nominated for Tropic Thunder. Things like that simply do not happen in the Academy. I also don't believe that Wall-E or Slumdog Millionaire are getting nominated either. Animated films do not win best picture, and Slumdog Millionaire was incredibly overrated and just simply depressing. Wall-E does have it locked for best animated film though.

Overall, you are a moron for believing Josh Brolin's mediocre performance can overshadow the brilliance of Heath Ledger's Joker.


Oh, Ethan; I know there aren't many seats on the short bus, so I'll be quick. Your credibility is worth about an ounce of frog shit if you think Brolin's performance in Milk was "mediocre," so I'm hard-pressed to credit your Ledger endorsement. I'm sorry I'm a moron for not buying into the extraordinarily overhyped product that Heath Ledger's corpse became the moment someone connected the dots between "tragic death" and "marketing opportunity." I'm sorry I'm a moron for not agreeing with your Entertainment Weekly-informed opinion, since every hack publication in America has told you how to feel about this issue for six months now. In the end, you're probably right about the Academy's outcome here, not because there's any merit to your opinion but because they form their opinions essentially the same way you do, i.e., by reading TMZ and conflating individual tragedy with artistic merit. ("ZOMG! Ledger roolz, Brolin droolz!") tb

Posted by: Ethan Rothstein at January 3, 2009 12:13 PM

Josh Brolin was perfect as in Milk and I say that as someone who actually knew Dan White.
I watched Harvey Milks political career grow by watching him on the news night after night in the 70s, Harvey was great at getting attention. Sean Penn just did not seem like Harvey Milk to me, he played the role too effeminately. I guess that's one of the problems of the biopic, the more familar you are with the people in the story, the harder it is to just go with the movie instead of picking at the problems.

Posted by: Huckleberry at January 3, 2009 12:18 PM

dear mr. boynton:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/movies/awardsseason/04lim.html


Dear celery: SCORE! I include these categories for you overglorified, inkstained wretches, and this is how you repay me? Now, go beg, borrow or steal a life. You do know this is an entertainment site, right? tb

Posted by: celery at January 3, 2009 12:31 PM

"fills the void left by JAG"
I so hope that comment is ironic, I'm laughing like a demented donkey.
Posted by: stipe42

Bwaahaaahaa. Although, what other show about Naval Lawyers is there? I mean Michael Bluth did say he was Cherith Cutestory, a Pirate Lawyer. Which I guess fills the void better than Benjamin Bratt ever could. But even that t.v. show was cancelled.

...and I'm still laughing at that 'fills the void'. JAG, we hardly knew ye.

Posted by: popejenn at January 3, 2009 12:32 PM

I must be the only person in America who thought Wall*E was dreck. That it is even being spoken of as a contender for Best Picture makes me want to vomit and never stop.


Your faith in Academy Voters vis a vis Best Supporting Actors is... adorable. Naive, but adorable. Ledger will win it.


You don't think Frost/Nixon will even score a nomination for Best Picture, eh? Interesting. I think it will be in the slot you've reserved for Wall*E. At least, I hope so. Perhaps The Dark Knight or Milk... the voters as a bloc are still doddering enough to stick it to the gay and youth audiences... Teach US to make our preferences known with our dollars, goddamn it.


I also think they just might go perverse and give the Director nod to Nolan; they seem to loathe Fincher. Or maybe that's just projection...


Actor -- yeah... but Jenkins just might sneak in there. In fact, I think he does.


Actress -- Hmm. No. Winslet v. Streep, down to the wire. Winslet takes it and...


... Best Supporting Actress is, once again, a complete crapshoot, but I'm going with Kate Winslet in The Reader, because the voters will have thought they won't have voted for her as Best Actress -- and thereby Oscar history will be made this night -- Kate Winslet will win TWO ACTING OSCARS IN ONE NIGHT.


Original Screenplay: Either Milk or The Visitor... I think the former takes it.


Adapted Screenplay: Slumdog Millionaire, because it won't win anything else, and we all know how they apportion these awards.


Benjamin Button gets shut out, except for Special Effects and Make-Up.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at January 3, 2009 12:54 PM

It's official. I love Pookie (and Bane for that matter). I like coming to a place where well adjusted people talk about things in a respectful manner. Yes, I just said that about Pookie.

Oh God, I think I drank too much last night, my brain seems to be broken. And on fire. Grim death, shuffle me off this mortal coil.

Oh and Maryscott, I hope to Godtopus you're right about Benjamin Button, because if I have to see that insufferable, ignorant douchebag get up and talk, I will never watch movies again.

Posted by: Smokin at January 3, 2009 1:24 PM

because if I have to see that insufferable, ignorant douchebag get up and talk

Posted by: Smokin at January 3, 2009 1:24 PM

I'm afraid you're going to have to narrow the possibilities down at least a little...

Posted by: Che Grovera at January 3, 2009 1:47 PM

Smokin hates Kirk Baxter, Che. HATES him. There's some bad trouble with lies and infidelity and money back in the past but OOH the scab comes right off that wound to this day, so just don't even mention his name again.

Posted by: Jay at January 3, 2009 4:39 PM

I just don't know. I mean, I thought Iron Man was pretty good, and it was far above all the other superhero dreck that's been tossed at us the past few years. I usually agree on Pajiba on most films, and even when I don't I think 'hmm...ok I can see how they would like it even if I don't'. But I just DON'T understand the insane amounts of love RDJ and Iron Man get from this place. I've tried. I watched Iron Man twice just to give it a second chance and was kind of bored for the first half, though the second half (when he gets out of the damned terrorist camp anyway) is pretty cool. I just didn't think it was THAT good. And yeah RDJ seems like a fun dude, but...yeah.

I guess all the insane love for RDJ and Iron Man is just of those things I'll never get, like Dustin's hardon for Ryan Reynolds or how anyone can find Brad Pitt attractive.

Posted by: figgy at January 3, 2009 7:40 PM

Oh and Maryscott, I hope to Godtopus you're right about Benjamin Button, because if I have to see that insufferable, ignorant douchebag get up and talk, I will never watch movies again.

YES! THANK YOU.

That's all I have to say about that.

Posted by: figgy at January 3, 2009 7:55 PM

Surely Slumdog Millionaire will get an adapted screenplay nomination.

Posted by: returnofthesmith at January 3, 2009 8:30 PM

Smokin, I'm afraid Che is correct... You will have to be more specific, as there are more than two insufferable douchebags connected with Benjamin Button.

To WHICH insufferable douchebag were you referring, in particular?

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at January 3, 2009 10:44 PM

Today I heard Ryan Reynolds almost played Xander in Buffy. Needless to say, I sighed and clutched my pillow tighter, just imagining.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at January 4, 2009 12:26 AM

I heard Bruce Campbell almost played Xander's Uncle Rory in the wedding episode of Buffy.

Reynolds! Campbell! The abs and the chin, bitch!

Posted by: stipe42 at January 4, 2009 1:57 AM

You`ll have to all stop mentionneing Ryan Reynolds and Buffy in the same sentence right now before I have an orgas....mmmMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!

...Nevermind.

Posted by: popejenn at January 4, 2009 4:49 AM

You`ll have to all stop mentionneing Ryan Reynolds and Buffy in the same sentence right now before I have an orgas....mmmMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!

...Nevermind.

Posted by: popejenn at January 4, 2009 4:49 AM

Either that was 2 orgasms simultaniously, or a double post. Whichever you choose to believe.

Also *mentionning.
Ièm drunk and on the internet at 3:51 am. What do you expectÉ?

Posted by: popejenn at January 4, 2009 4:51 AM

Josh Peck - Best Actor?
I prefered him when he was fat, fell over inanimate objects in a perfunctory manner and shouted "zoiks" at every opportunity.


Eh, I don't feel strongly about that one, though I love the film. Peck did a great job, however, and looking at the competition, I feel like he was as good as anyone I didn't nominate. tb

Posted by: KC at January 4, 2009 7:56 AM

Yeaah. That wouldn't work though, cos obviously Buffy would have nailed Xander instantly. Angel would have probably wanted to nail Xander too.

Posted by: Loob at January 4, 2009 8:44 AM

I think the question should be:
will Ledger's win be forever remembered as "he only won because he died" rather than the fact that he well and truly deserved it?

This debate in my house usually ends with me wanting to punch my grandparents in the face...


I don't begrudge a win for Ledger, though he's not my pick. I think that if he wins, however -- and Ethan insists that's inevitable -- that it will be remembered that way, that he won because he died. And whether he well and truly deserved it or not, that legacy will be justice strictly in terms of the charade that is the Academy Awards. There is no way in hell the Academy would nominate him otherwise, much less give him the award, regardless of whether he deserved it. So in that sense, it will be because he died, and whether he deserves the award is a bit of a side question. tb

Posted by: Seraf at January 4, 2009 10:00 AM

I am a little blown away that you did not mention Frost/Nixon, which I think will walk away with more awards than one would initially think - the movie is brilliant, Langhella, and, shockingly, Kevin Bacon both deserve nods.


Dude, it's my preferred winner for adapted screenplay. I thought Langella was great as well, and I thought the film was cleverly done, unusual and refreshing. But it didn't knock my socks off, and I don't think it will be nominated for many major awards. But you won't see me getting upset if it does -- it's light years ahead of something like Benjamin Button. tb

Posted by: matt at January 4, 2009 10:56 AM

I apologize if this has already been mentioned, but isn't "Towelhead" a novel by Alicia Erian? Because I'm pretty sure I bought it at Chapters, and it had that "now a motion picture" sticker on the front. Either that, or I got ripped off.

Also, if Disney campaigns for "Wall-E" to get into the Best Picture race, doesn't that mean that it can't be included in the Best Animated Catergory?

Because as much as I support that it was definitely one of the best movies of the year, it's definitely not going to win the Oscar for that, and I would rather it be in a catergory where it can win.


Damn you people and your fact-checking! Now you get Larry the Cable Guy, unless you're going to chastise me for forgetting that his movie was based on an obscure William Faulkner short story.

Re Wall-E, I'm not aware of a limitation on being nominated in both categories. I agree with you that it won't win Best Picture, but in my opinion a Best Picture nomination is more prestigious than a Best Animated Feature win, and I think that's why Disney has been lobbying for it to be nominated for Best Picture. tb.

Posted by: kdm at January 4, 2009 6:38 PM

I can almost guarantee this will be the Best Picture race. I'd love to see Dark Knight up there, but I highly doubt it.:

Frost/Nixon (thieving President, Media indictment, Ron Howard...you know it's going to be nominated.)
Doubt (looks depressing enough to get nominated, plus it has the controversial subjects of faith and pedophilia.)
The Reader (Nazis, Kate Winslet, Ralph Fiennes, Weinstein Brothers...enough said.)
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (Adult fairy tales always get nominated, especially when they look like this.)
Milk (Hollywood is going to rub the Prop 8 rejection in the face of America.)

Posted by: Mike R. at January 5, 2009 11:53 AM

I'm not sure if Iron Man or The Dark Knight are the types of movies that win Oscars or movie awards this serious. Neither were that good (although very entertaining and exciting, don't get me wrong) besides some good performances from both casts in general. I'm not saying that action movies based on comic books can't win awards either, there was something missing from both movies I can't put my finger on. I appreciate the pace of Iron Man more than Dark Knight, but I do believe that Heath does deserve some recognition for his role as the Joker because he was fantastic!

Posted by: ph at January 5, 2009 4:27 PM

I understand the nominations for Doubt that you gave for screenplay and acting - but why in all the world would you possibly give JPS a directing nomination? Did you actually see it?

As a movie, "The Reader" was not the best, but Stephen Daldry and Kate Winslet absolutely deserve the nominations that you are withholding from them

"Did you actually see it?" No, I just like talking out of my ass about movies I didn't see, especially when there's no personal gain or other purpose in doing so. First of all, I was predicting it will be nominated, not what I think should happen, and whether I saw it actually isn't that relevant to what I think the Academy will do. But I did see it, and I thought Shanley did a great job. Plays are very difficult to stage as films, and Doubt was ripe to be a disaster of the first order with PSH and the Streepinator competing to see who could look more like a "thee-uh-tuh thespian" spitting out all those Oscar-moment speeches. I credit the director for holding that together, though I thought the screenplay was quite good. tb

Posted by: Tracy Jordan at January 5, 2009 6:23 PM

nothing like a list to stir opinions and anyone intrepid enough to set his opinions on paper for all to read deserves some slack. having said that, i would contend that overlooking " happy-go-lucky " is a mistake, that ralph fiennes did nothing to advance the case for " the reader " and also sank " in bruges " which promised greatness until he appeared, that penelope cruz deserves a nomination but it should be for her lead role in " elegy " which required a much more nuanced affort than her one dimensional turn in " vicky ......." and that comic book movies should have their own category... can't wait for the next list.

Posted by: snake at January 6, 2009 1:08 AM

Brad Pitt looks like Tommy Lee Jones in that picture.

Posted by: sara at January 6, 2009 4:28 AM

Well, perhaps "did you actually see it" came off a bit strong, and if you took offense (as you clearly did), I apologize. I still maintain, though, that prima-donna-control aside, JPS's decisions regarding inconsistent tone, the rediculous wind, Meryl Streep's final outburst, and those failed diagonal shots that an amazing cinematographer like Roger Deakins would never do on his own, etc, etc, turned a fantastic screenplay sour.

Oh, and another thing. Many people, yourself included, have Curious Case as a choice for best picture. Besides weightless opinions I have on its actual quality, I would like to submit a point for review.

In the 80 some-odd years of the Academy, only once has best picture not been nominated for direction (driving miss daisy), only once has best picture not been nominated for writing (titanic), and only 2 or 3 times has best picture gone to a movie not nominated for film editing. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button had solid direction, solid writing, but its editing was barely mediocre. Any thoughts?

Posted by: Tracy Jordan at January 6, 2009 10:20 PM

Sorry, I meant twice in the last 30 years, not twice in 80 years

Posted by: Tracy Jordan at January 6, 2009 10:29 PM