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That 'is he or isn't he??' scab issue has been bothering the hell out of me. My [intelligent! political!] friends are like, 'huh, what? What are you even talking about?' when I ask.

Am I crazy?

I don't care how disappointing (I can't believe I'm using this word for Jon!) the new shows are; I'm just happy to see his face again. And Stephen too (Stephen's Prince dance was fucking classic).

I've been having trouble with this distinction as well. Whether or not he should be on as a performer is one thing, but the stuff he and Colbert are doing are clearly scripted. Sure, maybe nothing's written down, but if you have a graphic ready to support a joke you're making, isn't that scripted?

I'm not watching anymore, though...but out of any sense of idealism or solidarity or whatever. Mainly I just want to see them on top of their game. And I don't think that's likely to happen until they get the whole team working again.

That 'is he or isn't he??' scab issue has been bothering the hell out of me. My [intelligent! political!] friends are like, 'huh, what? What are you even talking about?' when I ask.

Am I crazy?

To clarify the scab issue: There is a clause in the WGA bylaws that allows for hosts to write their own material. However, that directly conflicts with the "Strike Guidelines" that were published just prior to the strike.

I'm pretty sure the strike vs. 9/11 comment was meant as a very dark joke, as in, "I can't believe how worked up we all are (myself included) about this." I agree the first show was certainly not up to the usual level, but I actually laughed (although somewhat bitterly) at that joke.
And what did you think about the other "A Daily Show"s of that week? I think they definitely got better.

Jon's "10 weeks of 9/11" comment was tounge-in-cheek, and it was funny.
It's time to venture out from 9/11 sensitivity. No need for an all-out laughfest, but if you can't mention that horrible day without thinking of all the hangers-on (Rudy!), the terrorists have won. (see, a cliche used ironically!)
Yes, be angry, be thoughtful, demand information! But do not dissolve when that day is mentioned.
Perfect example: a dumbass I work with once objected to the title of the second LOTR movie, The Two Towers. "They need to change the title, it's just too close, too sad," the Dumbass said.
I wanted to go into all the reasons why that was the stupidest post-9/11 comment ever, but my brain exploded.

"No, don't worry about the commenters. They're not even listening. Promise."
We are always listening. Alwaysssss...

Oh, if only Anderson Cooper really had a "Midterm Election Magic Bar Graph Pants" graphic.

Sigh.

I actually think Jon's doing a really good job with the show. I can't say the same thing about Colbert and have given up on the Report until the strike is over.

Agent Scullly, I agree. The Prince dance nearly made me pee myself. Pure hilarity!

I love Stephen Colbert and I will take what I can get (even if they are "nonscripted" shows during the strike). I very much miss The Word.

To kill the time, check out John Oliver's podcasts (the Bugle) through iTunes. They are hilarious!

FOX news has an exception and it's at least as fictional as TDS.

I was about to comment on The Daily Show, but someone mentioned Anderson Cooper and I lost consciousness.....

scab or no scab - and as a writer who is not yet and hopes to be in the union this is important to me - I have respect for the man if for no other reason that he paid for his entire staff as long as humanly possible. As far as I know, the writers are in favor of him working - it's the WGA leadership, who leave something to be desired - that are attacking him. That being said, the entire AMPTA are shits.

scab or no scab - and as a writer who is not yet and hopes to be in the union this is important to me - I have respect for the man if for no other reason that he paid for his entire staff as long as humanly possible. As far as I know, the writers are in favor of him working - it's the WGA leadership, who leave something to be desired - that are attacking him. That being said, the entire AMPTA are shits.

Forgive me but I still don't see what all the fuss is about Jon Stewart. I grew up on true masters of dry humor like Bob & Ray and Nichols & May, comics whose take on politics and popular culture of the 50's and 60's remains as fresh today as it did 50 years ago. Stewart just barely comes close to their level imo, and then he has to tell us he's Jewish, just like the little snookums on Murphy Brown used to do on practically every episode. Like it's relevant, like I care what your religion is, Jon Stuart Liebowitz. Like it somehow adds to the wry humor. Nichols is Jewish, as are the moms of Bill Maher and one-time funnyman Robin Williams, Jack Benny, and my sweet sister-in-law. Go ahead and count how many times an episode or in a week JS does this. It's like a gay comic saying he's gay, or a black comic saying he's black. It's 2008, Jon, get a new crutch to lean on.

I'm almost glad I'm disappointed. If the show were too good, I'd be afraid people would say, "See? He doesn't need writers! He's funny on his own." That said, "Our Dead Planet" was brilliant.

The point of the 9/11 comment was to put things into perspective. Face it, a writer's strike is unfortunate but it's not the end of the world. Despite what the Speechless ads are trying to convey, it really isn't THAT big of a deal compared to what is going on in the world.

I thought the show was great. Jon Stewart was making a point and he doesn't need to justify it with a great joke. It's called satire and sometimes it's subtle.

I've always thought Jon was pretty reliant on the writers, or at least moreso than Colbert is. Colbert had the funniest moment since their comeback on tonight's show. O'Reilly made a comment to Dennis Miller on The Factor that Stewart and Colbert are lost without the writers. They can't even find the right camera. When they went back to Stephen he was looking at the wrong camera and said, "Fuck you old man!" He then rambled for a while and everytime he tried to look at the right camera it switched to a different one.

If I had to guess I'd say Jon has some contractual obligation to appear on camera as host regardless of his writing credentials. So I would say he is not a scab at all, for what is he going to do just say nothing for a half an hour?

I don't live and die by the show. It's funny enough. It's an interesting distinction made by Matt up above between the likes of Nichols and May and comedians in general today. Most comedy now is deconstructive adn

If I had to guess I'd say Jon has some contractual obligation to appear on camera as host regardless of his writing credentials. So I would say he is not a scab at all, for what is he going to do just say nothing for a half an hour?

I don't live and die by the show. It's funny enough. It's an interesting distinction made by Matt up above between the likes of Nichols and May and comedians in general today. Most comedy now is deconstructive and generally negative while the comedians of yesteryear said the same things more creatively and with a somehow more uplifting message.

I've been enjoying the show, Jon's part of it anyway. I've been wondering about John Oliver's work on it. In the first show back he said he had to be there because he's on a work visa. Anybody know if there's any truth to that? I figured it was just a joke, but he's been the only correspondant doing pieces so far.

I wish the writers strike was over if only for "the word". I love Jon, in fact he is part of my harem, but he needs his writers back. He's doing his best. I dare any of you to come up with fresh material for a half hour show all by your lonesome (actually you probably could and then I'd be entertained...it's a win/win) and then we will talk.

Stewart is a scum Jewboy who is taking a huge stinking Jew shit on all of the other members of the WGA. I pray that he gets physically assaulted late one night on the streets of NYC and ends up paralyzed.

Nice! That's about the most voracious, hate-filled comment I've heard in a while. I hope B-slim or someone of similar ilk comes along and blasts your ass, saint nightfucking douchebag.

i find it brilliant, a huge dig at viacom, that jon used a daily show to air some of the strike issues and also to explain it some to the audience in general. a lot of people don't grasp the central issues of the strike and are just getting annoyed with their shows petering out. i don't think it will get old. it hasn't yet for me. i hope that every night, every single night he is forced on air against his own beliefs, that he makes jokes at viacom's expense.
i support the strike. i support the writers. they are OWED a huge cut as well as some respect from these corporate bastards.

Holy shit, nightwalker! Where is all that hate coming from?

Went to taping yesterday..I know, it is horrific.
The man is a genius though, truly. Still.

I don't know about using 9/11 as a joke. I've never been particularly sensitive about it but isn't that like saying "hey, why aren't there more puns on the holocaust, huh, huh, come on ... is this thing on?". I used to love watching the Daily Show but frankly I've gotten bored recently, it's the same shtick every week ... kind of like the Colbert Report. I know I've broken a Pajiba Commandment.

I don't know, I thought he was pretty funny anyway. I'm not sure if you're setting him on too high a pedestal. It's like The Simpsons movie, some people thought it wasn't good enough. When a show is consistently funny and good like The Daily Show or The Simpsons even and then the writers go on strike, you have to make do with what you got. The Colbert Report is awesome, and has probably eclipsed the Daily Show at this rate, but so what? They're both solidly funny shows and I don't really compare them to each other, but enjoy them both thoroughly. Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, just pointing out the high standards issue...

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