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Wait...Jessica Walter? As in THE Jessica Walter? LUCILLE BLUTH IS IN THIS SHIT?! I bet she's saying to herself, "I've made a huge mistake."

But the clothes are retarded, right?? Please tell me the clothes are super-horrible!

I prefer to think of Jessica Walter enjoying her time off from Arrested Development drinking a martini while floating on the Sea-ward.

Hey, I paused on this last night while flipping through the channels because Jessica Walter's presence made me think it was a rerun of Arrested Development.

I was sorely mistaken.

Since I am Canadian I watch Degrassi, and whatshername from that show sucked ass there too.

I PVR'd this show last night and wasn't sure if I would watch it or not, but Jessica Walter sealed the deal. . . but I think I will have to dip into some Amaretto to make it through.

Julie, I suggest we have a couple martinis and cry over this travesty...and when I say cry, I mean show up on the CW's doorstep and start swearing at them like a drunk, pissed ex-lover.

Aawwwwww. I thought it was fun. Ridiculous, yes; over-the-top campy, yes; certainly nothing I'll skip out on events or other tv I like better for. But, I thought it managed to be decently soapy. And yes, the Annie character has some annoying physical tics, but I thought she was okay.

Let's be honest, though... I'll probably keep watching it, but really, it's for the pretty boys.

Sounds good Mike R.! We can get plastered and watch Lucille bait the balcony with a cracker instead.

Blech. I couldn't stand Lori Loughlin on Full House, so seeing her in this made it suck even more.

Stacey, as a semi-closeted watcher of Degrassi, I can tell you that Shenae Grimes is no better on that show than this one. She plays a whiny brat in both.

Even with Tristan Wilds (who can do so much better than this) I'm hoping this crap goes down the tubes quick. It's enough dealing with Gossip Girl every fucking week.

Wait, the token black character's name is Dixon? As in Dick-son? That just perpetuates the stereotype that African American men are gifted in the pants.

Not that I've ever heard one complaining about that particular stereotype.

What the fuck is the only black kid on the show doing living with a white family? And please I hope it isn't because his mother got pregnant when she was a teen and wanted a better life for him and gave him up for adoption, or his mother got hooked on drugs and gave him up for adoption, or his mother or father or both are locked up in this wicked penal system. Please for the love of god would somebody in Hollywood please show a black family in which both parents are productive members of society? On a lighter note, wasn't it neat seeing Bristol and her boo Levi holding hands? I think with some luck those two lovebirds are going to make it.

Bristol and Levi are about as likely to "make it" as one of the Jonas Brothers and a girl...any girl.

I'm with Anna von Beaverplatz; I kinda liked it. I was a big fan of the original, and I've been excited to see Kelly and Brenda again (though their reunion was sorta anticlimactic). It had its faults, but overall it was good, campy fun. Please don't take away my Pajiba card. Please?

I suppose it goes without saying that Tristan was incredible as Michael on "The Wire"? I can't even imagine what must be going through his head on the set of 90210.

Just think of it this way Tristan, 90210 can bring new corners.

"Tristan was incredible as Michael on "The Wire"?"

Whozawhatnow?

How does one go from one the best and most acclaimed television shows ever to this pile of monkey shit?

The universe is a cruel place. But I did enjoy this review.

God, it must suck to go from The Wire, playing a fascinating and tragic character whose story arc plays out over two seasons of excellence to fucking 90210. At least he's working! Maybe Pajibans should have a blanket "support ex-Wire actors" policy. Anything with a former cast member gets some extra consideration.

Sonja Sohn was in Step Up 2: The Streets. It was a pretty good movie when accompanied by a bong hit or two.

I've seen more than my fair share of Degrassi, and I HATE Shenae Grimes. I didn't watch the original 90210 so I was pretty indifferent to this, but as soon as I saw her face attached I thought HELLZ NO.

And Jessica Walter: Why, Lucille, WHY???

Word to Melrose Place, Stacey. A tip of the wig to you. If Thomas Calabro makes an appearance, I will watch that crap show every week.

The spambot has spawned ads. What's up with that?

Dixon, like a teenage version of Al Roker or Wayne Brady

I happened to wander into the room while the teenagers were watching this, at the exact moment that Dixon was getting kicked off the lacrosse team. Lacrosse?! How unconventional! How to play against stereotype! How jaw-droppingly, mind-blowingly, unlikely-as-a-small-town-mayor-from-Alaska-as-Vice-President bizarre!

In the roughly three minutes of this that I could tolerate I observed not one teenager speaking like any teenager I've ever encountered (including on TV). These writers have tin ears encased in lead...and then slathered in mercury for that extra touch of insanity. I think Nosek was spot on in her assessment, but she didn't go far enough -- they all talk and act like Al Roker.

In the roughly three minutes of this that I could tolerate

So is this like the one episode I ever saw of "The OC" while fixing my mom's computer where Adam Brody gives his neat comic book girlfriend the cold shoulder, Peter Gallagher rightfully calls him on said delirious bullshit, and then he decides what he's really always wanted is Mila Kunis?

If so then that noise can get fucked. Besides, no Dylan, no Donna....NO JAY. I wag my finger.......menacingly!

I can imagine Dylan being the aging, disgruntled guy that keeps saying "what's up with the fucking kids these days?" in a smokey squint while still tuning up his motorcycle. He would constantly threaten to "get the hell out of this town one of these days."

it must be a dream to write for this show. wow.

As the most vocal Degrassi fan visitor to the site, I can say there was no offense taken. I'm more of a fan of the original show, and the new one has really run off the rails over the last couple seasons.

For those who don't know, the original 90210 originated as an adaptation of the original Degrassi show, after the latter was such a critical success. The product didn't turn out very close to that which inspired it. Anyway, it's funny that now all these years later 90210 is doing its own "next generation" after Degrassi saw success one of their own and that 90210 nicked one of the Degrassi actresses.

I think with some luck those two lovebirds are going to make it. ____Agelessmate.com____

On a completely unrelated note (great review, don't intend to watch the show but the writeup was top notch), do the people who write the messages for these spambots really think that what they say will fit into any conversation ever?

ATTENTION: THIS IS A THREADJACK.

Dr Horrible has a twitter. Thought I'd pass it on.

http://twitter.com/drhorrible

That's right, even the token black kid on the show has a white family. Now I'm the last person to try to read too much into things looking for something to get offended over, but this just seems... Insulting?

Insulting is too kind. Try stupid.

I love Lucille Bluth...I almost wish she was my grandmother sometimes...I would be scarred for life but at least I'd have great stories to tell my children...if I had any that is. They should never have tried to duplicate the success(?) of the original 90210. What made the original better was the awkwardness of trying to be friends with everyone...and that took an entire season. When they first move into LA, it shouldn't be as easy as everyone knowing each other and being so "close knit". That's too easy...they need to let it build over time. This just sounds stupid and they're going to get canceled because of sheer laziness on the writers' part. But hell, at least it pays the Comcast bill for them.

When they first move into LA, it shouldn't be as easy as everyone knowing each other and being so "close knit".

I was bitching at my TV about this. On the first day, she becomes friends with the jock star, the rebel, and the popular girl who's actually her half-sister or something. The next day, she gets burned by all of them and flies to San Fran with the hot sensitive singer. The next day the rebel gets her a part in a play without auditioning, her brother gets kicked off the lacrosse team, then kicked back on, Lucille Bluth almost dies over a computer, and OH MY GOD HOW CAN SO MUCH HAPPEN SO QUICKLY WHILE STILL BEING SO BORING.

And since I never had my Pajiba card to begin with, I feel no shame in saying I'm off to watch my Melrose reruns and see if Kimberly gets away with lobotomizing Peter.

Also, when I found out the black guy in the white family was named Dixon, I suggested to my roommate that he should name his penis Mason. Should that make me ashamed?

Mila Kunis was never on The OC, you have her confused with Rachel Bilson, they do look a lot alike. Incidentally, Rachel Bilson did guest in an episode of That '70s Show. But, really, Jay, you should've known the difference, doesn't Mila Kunis have a very distinctive voice?

Annie's older brother is Dixon, played by Tristan Wilds

Please tell me that by around episode 3 he will unleash his Omar, The Return role on the rest of the cast. That might get me to watch - or at least download.

Only thing I'm confused about is how a guy I thought might be relatable turned out to have boring taste for a boring copy. What a disappointing evening.

Brian - ha ha ha! So true. One of the girls will say "How does my hair look?" and he'll say "It looks good, Snoop" and then...BLAM!

About the Mila - Rachel confusion, they're ALMOST interchangeable but I think Mila has an edge over Rachel because she dates Macualy Culkin! And they're notorious chain smokers!

I watched the first five minutes of this trainwreck. And I was so pissed off by the lame exposition ("What will they think when I'm adopted?" You're adopted? NO WAY!) that I just threw my remote to the ground and shot a shoe at the tv just to turn it off. Completely disgusted.

They seem to be trying so damn hard to get the Gossip Girl magic--I mean, an omniscient blogger who disses other people? Are you SERIOUS?

Give it up, losers. There's enough rich-bitch shows on MTV. Why did this need to exist?

A) Degrassi was best in its original run in the 80's, Joey Jeremiah had the best hats, Wheels' bottle rim glasses were awesome, Zit Remedy was an amazing band and Spike's hair kept me in awe.
Anything that The Next Generation touched, turned to shit. Except for that episode when Wheels came back.

2) It ain't 90210 if Andrea Zuckerman isn't in it.

'When they first move into LA, it shouldn't be as easy as everyone knowing each other and being so "close knit". That's too easy...they need to let it build over time.'

PH - i agree with you. The writers are trying way too hard with this. They should have saved some of the plot developments for later on in the season. They crammed way too much into the pilot. I understand that they needed to fill the time, but they could have found other ways.

Overall i hated the first half, so dull, boring, predictable and the acting was atrocious. The second half was alittle bit better.

I'll keep watching and i am sure that it will improve overtime. Afterall GG took a few weeks to get going.

BTW - so far my favourite characters are grandma Wilson and Dixon. The other characters need so much more developement. Because at the moment they are (for the most part) dull and boring.

i really only watched this to find out what Kelly Taylor is up to. The hour and forty minutes she wasn't onscreen was snoresville. she probably was too for anyone else but the 16 year old in me was thrilled.

however! if you are in your 30's and have ANY recollection of the movie RAD, I don't see how you can anything but love for one Miss Lori Laughlin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCGbttcI27k

Did anyone else notice the hamhanded insertion of Ah-ndrea's daughter as the newscaster on the student channel? She introduced herself as Hannah Zuckerman-Ramirez (or whatever Jesse's last name was). That broke me and it was in about the first 15 minutes. Andrea would NEVER send her child to West Beverly after all she went through there! Did these writers even watch the original show?!

Vasquez. I saw it as a poor attempt at a nod to the original fans. There were several little "inside jokes" of this type that only fans of the original series would pick up on... and everyone else would fail to get the significance, but would recognize the awkwardness of the execution.

I'm glad the confusion about Rob Estes's character being "an old friend" who "went to West Beverly" was brought up by others, because I was wracking my brains trying to make the connection. I knew he'd been on Melrose, but as Kyle... good grief, there were enough minor characters in the original, couldn't they have just actually revived one of them??

And the black adopted son, I'm sorry, but that's completely derivative of South of Nowhere, which was completely derivative of the original 90210!!

And, as a Degrassi fan who grew up with the original series but learned to love the Next Generation (just not every plot...), I concur that Shenae Grimes was an unwelcome addition. If they were going to reuse a teen actor from another angstful show of the same sub-genre, why not Gabrielle Christian?

Also -- am I the only one totally creeped out by AnnaLynne McCord? I just can't shake the image of her as Eden from Nip/Tuck...

It is really disturbing that the reviewer didn't even recognize Michael from The Wire. Should anyone trust a tv show reviewer that doesn't recognize a major character from one of the few tv shows in the past few years worth watching? In this case I suppose so, since I have no doubt that the new 90210 does indeed suck.

i'm with rico on this. not giving tristan any attribution is more than a tad disturbing. do your research -- and by research i mean, tune into the quality programming out there -- before you come around ripping the shit that barely deserves attention. you end up with a review that isn't worth reading.

You are pretty right on in my opinion--aside from the fact that I LOVE the orignal 90210. I can't really say I like any of the new "90210ish" shows, all made by the WB...CW...or whatever networks they are. I think maybe some of it is that I was actually in high school when the original was on so maybe I related better, but I think these shows go a little too far and are even more racey and unrealistic.

This remake in particular SUCKS badly! The actors can't act, and the only reason I pay any attention to it is to see the story lines they have for the orignal cast. Okay that sounds sad, but I admit its true. I actually DVR it and fast foward to scenes I want to see and then erase it. Although I did watch the entire premiere. It is no comparison to the original--doesn't even come close.

I too thought it was stupid to have Kelly as old friends with Rob Estes. I was also confused as to why Andrea's daughter was in the premiere for 2 seconds then never mentioned again. And is anyone really shocked Dylan is the father of Kelly's baby? Give me a Break!! I also realized Silver was Erin after like 2 seconds. Maybe they should find some more creative writers if they want to save this show. Oh, that along with better teen actors!

Um biased bitch? television channels do not cancel shows because some people think that it isn't good. corporations are interested in making money which is why even if the show was on Fox it would survive the season as 90210 is one of the the highest rated shows on Tuesday nights. do you honestly believe that tv companies give a shit about how quality their shows are? and you say your 31? I'm 17 and I know that all tv stations care about is ratings. because if lots of ppl watch it then lots of ppl see the ads. the show itself is just something to put in between then ads.

I cannot believe I wasted my time reading that ridiculous review. You obviously only watch things to give them a bad review. I am 30 I loved the original 90210, Melrose Place and the new 90210. You have to watch things with an open mind. These actors are kids. Shannon Dougherty was horrible in the first couple of episodes as Brenda Walsh but, by the middle of the season she was great. Kelly went to college to become a physcologist so her role is fine as school counselour. Maybe try putting the wine down for 5 minutes and watch something sober?? I love the way you mock "Silvers" blog....have you ever read your shit?

Dana, meet Georgie. Georgie, Dana.

You two are going to get along so great! Georgie, once your growing pains quit manifesting themselves in text-speak and typos and tortured grammar you'll find yourself as an adult so overwhelmed by the complex demands of critical thinking and by nostalgia for a simpler time that you will simply retreat into a defensive shell and blindly attack anyone who disagrees with you. This is where Dana comes in. She (pretty sure I'm not falling into the unisex Pat trap) can be your spirit guide in your transformation from undereducated, overopinionated teenager into undercritical, overconfident adult.

Enjoy each other's company! Don't forget to exchange your tips on how to call someone else's judgment into question without ever establishing any basis for your own besides your age...that's a really good one. Hell, someday I might even have to vote against one of you -- seems like either one of you could put Sarah Palin to shame in the "unfounded opinion" department.

Che Che Che...

First things first, I am a female. A Democratic, 30yr old Mother. I went to college, have a career, a husband and a son, a house a dog...shall I go on or would you like me to stop before you notice how lonely and sad you truely are?

What exactly makes you think that I am undereducated? Just because you throw Sarah Palin's name into a blog does not make you intelligent, if anything it makes you sound like an idot. I hope you find something to fill your time besides the internet.